Charge Strength S V Ingredients Magnet S

[languid locust]

Did it 4 times. The first was the best.

[willow grove]

the caterpie leek test?

make it drop cacao or fiery herbs after honey and apple

just don't pick sausage if charmader or milk if squirtle

[languid locust]

Yes only apple,sausage,honey,milk,cacao. And magnet s. Dont want to unlock other ingredients at all. Maybe tails after i have a 30bro

[willow grove]

I thin yiu can get away with just cacao, honey, and apple at first

just try get dozing and catch caterpie and bulbasaur

so only honey and apple since you get given 30 at the beginning

then slumber for your masterball sleep

hope for psyduck

just realised psyducks is dozing

basically any cacao droppers at base

[rose widget]

8 with one bonus from camp

[willow grove]

thanks did you take one of these

you should have tried catching the 2* haunter not the 1*

I don't think it's a big difference

will need to add manually Ill do it later

[rose widget]

It is hungry hence why

Research exp 1237 I have focus incense activated

This is from last week, if that helps?

With Focus incense

[willow grove]

gyat dayum

I guess if using any incenses its better for 1 whole sleep.session

[willow grove]

yes thanks

as it doubles the rewards

[languid locust]

I settled with a lvl4 pika, appleat30, xp++,ing—,
ing-find-s -t 10,
help-speed-s at25

Didnt know you could role a lvl3 as well. Lol

[willow grove]

those are the good nature ones

I've rolled a lot of pikachus

like ALOT

I've caught alot of pichus on the berry team aswell

[languid locust]

Lvl3 with xp down, recover up

[willow grove]

eyy recover is the new "meta " right ?

[languid locust]

Not decreasing recover is the new meta?!

But increase is useless

[distant rain]

@willow grove i did my first sleep but it's 80%
I slept for 8 and half hours

[distant rain]

Sitrus, Durin, mago berries are snorlax favourite

[willow grove]

Try to catch as many chicorita as you can asap

Ignore sitrus and mago berries mon as they are slow and have no berry specialist

Stick with you pikachu and your starter

Who is your starter btw @distant rain ?

Try to catch as many caterpies aswell

Or the other 3 mons ive mentioned

[distant rain]

squirtle

[distant rain]

i dont know how to spawn a grass type i am just a slumbering type

[distant rain]

yeah i will try to catch if they spawn

[willow grove]

If there's a spheal try to catch it

All 3 types have an ingredients magnet s mons with double berries anyways so dont worry

Its better to spawn grass since its dozing and you get durin berry mons that drops it plus caterpie

[distant rain]

any tips of getting dozing

[willow grove]

Clear your throat when you feel like you're half asleep

The graph tends to spike indicating dozing looking at my past data

Do it every 2 hours if you can

Also since you're slumbering its a high chance you get the other 2 types as it base the new style to your previous by comparing abnormal changes

[distant rain]

i will try some tricks

[willow grove]

Think it's at least 6% of that same style

Post your sleep graph if you dont mind

[distant rain]

now?

[willow grove]

Before your next sleep so i can analyse it

[willow grove]

Dont try to "fake" it

I can tell

Left phone for more than 4 hours

The yellow spikes indicates loud noises

That dozing

You need to make alot of that and get moe than 16% on you next sleep

[distant rain]

Is that between 2:30 and 3:30

[willow grove]

Yes

[distant rain]

I didn't faked it

Idk why doesn't tracked

[willow grove]

Slumber started past 10pm and you need to make some noises/ movement after 4 hours of slumbering or else game thinks your cheating(not in the room) or worse dead

[distant rain]

Those noises are my phone notifications

5 to 6 is fake

Didn't slept

[willow grove]

You also need to snooze and slumber around same the amount to not deviate and cause a balance style

[distant rain]

I need to sleep somewhere sound or keep the mobile near a sound place?

For dozing

[willow grove]

Yeah but not too much

Or else itll count as time taken to fall asleep

[distant rain]

Okay i will try something

[wheat furnace]

hi just wondering, is there a downside to the game thinking ur cheating/not in room

like dont u get the slumbering sleep anyway?

[willow grove]

i guess the devs dont want to players to just leave their phones unattended for too long to exploit the game

its supposed to track your sleep

@languid locust @distant rain do this method to get 600 sleep points after your second sleep which is the masterball research. Make sure to get 100 sleep score in 1 session to take advantage of the masterball and buy extra biscuits with 700 sleep points. YOU NEED to skip the review and MUST follow what was shown on the clip

if no premium its potentially 5 normal biscuits if you are rank 2 already

[distant rain]

Okay

[languid locust]

Sadly because my slepe pass is bugged i didnt get the novice research bonus 600. Nor can i activate my trial again.

I filed a report

Im at basic 2 but only have 87 research xp. 😦

[somber zealot]

Could someone pin the start of this guide

like the first message. Just to make it easier to mobile users

Desktop users, even

[willow grove]

I'm not a mod

Forgot to do bedtime update last night

I'll just do a weekly roundup

First all 3 accounts reached at least master 2 on greengrass

Start with the "basic" team which is the berry team. As expected since I had greppa for the week it's 1st place as I had 4 pika mons from it's evo line most of the week

Snorlax' final strength reached 274k and is masters 3.

About 82% of it came from berries (mostly greppa)

Only 18% from cooking as I barely had enough ingredients to fill my 21 pot size so I did just enough for the basic apple dish

I could have pushed to masters 4 as I swapped out the pika squad on Saturday night with an ingredients magnets s line up (caterpie evo line) so I could have enough ingredients for this week

It just got interesting as I have lum berry for this week along with desserts so I'll be making the basic honey recipe

This will be the new line up and I'm hoping to evolve a few of the caterpies asap

This week will prove how good the caterpie line is and we'll see if it can surpass masters 3 thanks to an additional 15% island boost

Latest strength for snorlax

I've decided to upgrade my pot size to 27 since the caterpies will hopefully drop me extra ingredients

For Sunday's sleep I did one whole sleep session and used a friend incense to take advantage of snorlax's really high strength BUT I still think splitting into 2 session is much better in comparison

As you can see 27mil+ of points only encounters 8 mons with 39 candies 1.2k research XP and 2.1k shards. It also only had one 4* style and the rest are 1*. Maybe it's rng but there were stage 2 mons to offset the 1* styles for 5 candies

I caught the chikorita as it's the only berry specialist

In comparison with my Saturday sleep resulting in 14 encounters with 61 candies, 1.2k research XP and 2.5k shards at slower strength of 253k and 262k for both sessions. There was one 4* and most were 1 and 2* for both sessions. I've doubled the amount of candies and the research XP/shards are roughly the same amount thanks to the one 4*

@modern gyro Am I wrong now?

It seems like double sleep>single sleep>manual with actual sleep

Is the ranking of sleep

Lol have a tier rank for sleep 😂

@little falcon

Take note this account has no good camp set active and will improve the hauls even more along if focus and luck incense are used

OK next is my favourite account., the ingredients team

this account reached master 3 on greengrass with 256k final strength

the contribution is almost split half for meals and berries

I had this crit meal to bump the finalscore and tried to even the contribution in half

let's see if I struggle to keep up this week since I had lum and persim last week to take advantage of eevees and butterfree berries

I don't like to slot in any ingredients mons with sitrus just for extra ingredients so I'll rely on the main skill ingredients magnet s

I have salads so I'll try to make the best recipe for the ingredients that gets dropped

Research from Sunday's sleep

I didn't have enough biscuits for the heracross

the good camp set chose the one 4* as the extra mon

[willow grove]

forgot to add just used candies to level this specific eevve to offset the berry not being a favourite. hopefully more extra ingredients even though its slow

this will probably be a vaporeon in the future

[nova nebula]

damn you actually ran all 3 accounts at the same time?

[willow grove]

it's not that hard I probably spent more time here on discord than the actual app itself

you just need a working phone with a decent battery

you only need to check a few times per day since its not meant to be an always on screen game where you have to open the app all the time

you just need to be on time to feed snorlax's meals and have access to your phones during that time and maybe occasionally pick berries and and ingredients

I'd say every 4 hours to time the research reports and get dopamine when the skills procs while you also you get a lot of extra candies from your friends' researches

[distant rain]

@willow grove i caught sudowoodo and cubone

[languid locust]

Seems they fixed this. After collecting some regular biscuits i went in the review the research. Had a pika,growlith and charmander to chose from.
But i had no way of escaping the messages from professor and after the messages masterball was hard locked in. No way anymore of switching to other biscuits

[lethal rover]

@willow grove i haven’t kept up with the thread and too lazy to read the whole thing again but from skimming it seems like berries was the overall winner. what are your thoughts now on berry vs ingredient teams?

[willow grove]

Nice put on you team asap

[willow grove]

You need to use the masterball first. Then the other biscuits

[willow grove]

If following the "current" meta then yes. Berries on weekdays then switch out to ingredients on weekends

But my ingredients team can keep up now and my recipes are leveling up faster each day. So eventually it'll win especially if f2p

[distant rain]

i couldnt able to catch swablu

[willow grove]

You have to change your line up each week/island for berries while ingredients can level up much faster

[distant rain]

used master ball on sudowoodo and bonus biscuit on cubone and its hungry

[willow grove]

Nice

[distant rain]

now on two sleeps per day

[willow grove]

Try usung #1134842457469759499 to maximise the encounter

Ive tried to do it on first day and will update later when i have access to my other phones

[latent marsh]

by ingredients team, do you mean mons that have ingredient magnet, not mons with a specific help ingredient?

do you prefer using/leveling up simple recipes, or more complex ones (rarer ingredients)?

[languid locust]

I did. Got pika and char 😆

[willow grove]

both with magnet s and specific ingredients the "best" one that could fit my current pot size

but i prefer all magnet s mons as they can drop all discovered ingredients

[willow grove]

why pika again?

[fathom mirage]

omw to magnet 6
let's go team 🧲

[languid locust]

Nothing better showed up

[languid locust]

Crazy

Magnet goes from 6-8-11 is crazy

What islvl 6 then?

[fathom mirage]

lvl 75 I'll get magnet 5 so just need 1 more seed to max it out

the max lvl we know of

21

[languid locust]

Growliths extra helpfull could also become strong with higher levels

[languid locust]

Lol. Who needs ingredient focused pokemon if you have 1 eevee with that skill at 6 with a decent chance to proc…

[fathom mirage]

yeah people overlook it cause it's early games

and we aren't rly looking at skills maxed

[languid locust]

I wirry this is the first thing after daily berry frequency that gets a nerf

[fathom mirage]

dunno

it takes 2 evolution tu make it lvl 3 + either 3 seeds or 1 subskill M + 1 seed

so Eevee would need 1 more seed or a skill S

[languid locust]

Caterpie and Totodil such an s tier group

[fathom mirage]

I do think we will get lo of dream shards by selling extra ingredients

[languid locust]

True

In my i gredients tier list you can see whats best to sell for shards xD

Apple was best xD

[willow grove]

OK Ill just do a midday update on all 3 accounts

Let's start with my favourite is team the ingredients line up

I have salads and not a very good selection of favourite berries for ingredients specialists so I decided to tweak my team so that I can make Moomoo Caprese Salad

the drop #on my ingredients magnet S mons just keeps on getting higher that's why I'm able to level up this dish to level 12

Snorlax strength is just 26k on greengrass but it's slowly rising thanks to my endless extra ingredients

I evolved my bellsprout as wartortle and spheal has energy down and the extra 1.12 energy boost is helping offset the negative 20% reduction

it's a also providing me tomato as it the only ingredients I'm always lacking

too bad this one has potato at level 30 and not leeks

but potato seems to be on 30+ ingredients recipes so I'll definitely try to level this one asap

I just need enough candies due to everyone getting a leaf stone for an early rp milestone

I tried splitting sleep but since I have low strength I could only encounter 6 in total 3 each per session. research xp and shards were low due to low strength as well

[languid locust]

New knowledge. You can never get leeks at 30. #1136923165138882581
Our collected data matches. Lvl30 only has base ingredient and one other. Lvl60 gets the second other ingredient

[willow grove]

ah OK good to know

next is the berry team aka (afk team)

since I have lum I tried to put an all caterpie evo line that I can evolve to metapod asap

I just need more caterpie candies so I could evolve the remaining caterpies

I'll predict that this team will be first again since I can get extra ingredients along with double favourite berries for all members

if all members just activates their skill atleast once per day thats already an extra 36 ingredients along with the honeys they collect

also I got so lucky making the basic honey desserts recipe

that's why this berry team already has 44k without a good camp set

I've tried 2 sleeping sessions and got 7 encounters 4 and 3 and the rewards are still low since I'm on low strength

Tuesday sleep should get more encounters since its much easier to split and use the threshold

[willow grove]

last is the experimental team. the purpose of this team is to unlock the best ingredients asap due to the extra 28% extra xp boost while sleeping. I've been pumping candies to this gastly so that I can get to level 30 asap. Once I can unlock mushrooms I'll move onto this diglett that has leeks at level 30

I slotted in a metapod since I have lum berry to take advantage and have a mix ingredients and berry line up

I have desserts this week as well and managed to get a crit on the basic honey recipe

that's why it's snorlax strength is 42k and is just 2k lower than the berry team because it's technically a hybrid line up

once I've unlocked mushrooms and leeks I'll move onto slowpoke tails

this account will heavily rely on high base ingredients to raise snorlax's strength on "late game"

I only need to discover it once and I'll swap in multiple ingredients magnet S mons to drop them for me like my ingredients team

I did 2 sleep sessions and got 4 and 3 encounters like the berry team due similar strength

PS I did tap the magikarp fan and got both crit meals on the berry and experimential team. @languid locust

maybe just luck

[willow grove]

@grim karma follow the thread here I explain 3 different ways to raise snorlax

[grim karma]

Excellent thanks for the Ping, I'll read back a ways!

[willow grove]

no worries

[grim karma]

Sorry was hard to read back and find out what this was in reference to.

"You can never get Leeks at lvl 30"
I have a Diglett with Leeks at lvl 30, unless you meant this was can't get leeks at level 30 for a specific Species.

[languid locust]

For specific species

[willow grove]

how's the new team?

still no caterpie?

[languid locust]

I try always. But no success yet 😛

I need to sleep first to get more pokemon

[willow grove]

try blowing .the screen to speed up the fan even faster 😂

it's 4d you know😁

wow 2 starter already

that's 2 down for your ingredients magnet S mons

[fathom mirage]

damn memories of old DS games X)

[grim karma]

lol, that goes waaaay back. Sega Genesis, Nintendo Proper and classic GameBoy no color for me 😅

[willow grove]

I'll just try and do midday update from now on for all 3 accounts

let's start with my favourite team

this is the snorlax latest strength to and it's at great 4 as of lunch time on my timezone

no change in line up and I've been leveling up these 2 dishes and whenever I can I have enough ingredients for their recipes

both recipes are slowly scaling higher due to my 27 pot size and the bonus boost per level

I'm not taking advantage of the favourite berries boost that's why it's last compare to the other 2 accounts

I did start doing double sleep to maximise encounters

first session

second session

so for Tuesday's total it's 9 encounters, 29 candies, 150 research xp and 256 shards

no good camp set active for all 3 accounts now so it's easier to compare the # of encounters it's just the strength that will be different

next is the experimental team no line change as well since I trying to level up this team's diglett to level 30 asap for leeks

latest snorlax strength is 72k and its at great 5

first session of double sleep

it's seems like I didn't take a screenshot of the second session for the haul summary and the best thing I could get is the historical data with no candies amount

since the strength was much higher, there were stage 2 mons on the first session that's why it's total haul would have been also higher but still only 9 encounters

the hybrid lineup made it easier for me to make a few decent recipes for this account and I've been leveling this dish

the score isn't higher since I don't have taupe unlock as it's pot size is still 21

last is the berry team aka the "butterfree team" from now on

I still have no butterfree and only have 2 caterpies left to evolve

I want to take advantage of the evo boost for extra main skill level and limits for all 5 members

there is no change in line up also and this is the latest strength

it's at 79k and ultra 1 already due to consisting of a 5 line up with double boost berries and berry specialists

first session

second session

total haul are 9 encounters, 31 candies, 257 research xp and 542 shards

since the strength was higher and was lucky due to rng this account had two 2* encounters which is why the haul is higher

since I rely on the ingredients magnet S for extra ingredients I've only been getting honeys as normal drops, so I've been leveling up the basic honey and it's level is slowly climbing higher

this account has 27 pot size

So in summary of what I've gathered for the first 2 days of the week, grow your snorlax's strength ASAP with favourite berries using berry specialist mons and feed it the best recipe you can make. THEN try to do double sleep sessions so you can start getting more hauls for candies, research xp and shards by using the latest threshold provided by @desert phoenix for optimising your sleep

[nova nebula]

is this strategy for all three of your accounts or just for your ingredient team?

[willow grove]

For beginners/existing players alike and all types of accounts

Im just doing an experiment to see whether what kind of playstyle will eventually win

[tardy dirge]

@willow grove have you found any correlation between rare mons spawn rate vs drowsy power?

[tardy dirge]

I’m trying to test out also

[willow grove]

Above 12mil+ for one 4*on green grass it seems

Havent had high enough strength to double sleep with 12+ mil each session yet

[tardy dirge]

Yea I know drowsy power definitely tied with sleep style rarity but how about higher evolution mons?

[willow grove]

Its your rank

Masterball seems to encounter stage 2 mons alot

[tardy dirge]

Right

@willow grove so I do have a chance of encountering 3rd stage mons even during naps right?

Because if you get 1 star 2 star styles during naps, by doing naps only would increase the chance of encountering 3rd stage mons since all sleep styles unlocked for 3rd stage mons are 1-2 star styles in master 1-5

[willow grove]

I havent seen any 3rd stage yet

Richtw caught a blastoise but it was a long sleep session

[tardy dirge]

Long sleep might still be required to encounter 3rd stage apparently

[willow grove]

Yeah i think probably like 20 mil+

I did see a kangaskhan and a heracross on 2 of the accounts and it was a long sleep for both

[nova nebula]

@willow grove what team is the making best progress for u rn?

[willow grove]

"best" can be interpreted in different ways. One the fastest high scoring account which is the berry team but you have to keep on switching mons per island/week. Second is the progression of each of your mons while sleeping as they get up at least 100xp per night if you do 100 sleep and without any subskill/nature boost. This would be the experimental team as they'll level up faster passively compare to the other two accounts since there's a 28% extra xp boost. Lastly the ingredients team has high level recipes for all 3 dish types since I've been unfortunate enough to keep changing dish each week so far. However atleast one recipe for each dish has atleast level 13 or higher since I could focus on leveling kt the up due to lots of extra ingredients. The strength may be lower each week but the recipe levels are slowly rising.

I prefer the ingredients team then the experimental due to scaling much better late game

[sterile gorge]

^

[willow grove]

https://youtu.be/kqOEtWjENO4

@tardy dirge double sleep by making a 19 sleep score session with 3mil+strength got 10 encounters. It's 9+1 due to good camp set active

krakken not a whale since this was 5 days ago on Aug 5

he's min maxing as well 19 sleep score is 1hr 37 mins

just barely got over the minimum 1hr 30 mins for a sleep session

[tardy dirge]

Well drowsy power still ties with rare Pokémon encounters

[willow grove]

yeah so double sleep is still relevant as long as you enough strength

it doesn't matter how much your sleep score is even if it's the minimum of 18

[tardy dirge]

yea which means there is a min requirement for drowsy power to have a chance encountering zard or 3rd stage evolutions

[willow grove]

maybe 50mil+

[tardy dirge]

Yep, I’m gonna test this weekend, would be doing just one main sleep.

Sitting at 534k atm

[willow grove]

I think rich tw got that blastoise around 400k strength so 40mil

I couldn't find his hauls pic

[tardy dirge]

Ah 40mil prob is the minimum then

[willow grove]

he posted it somewhere

[willow grove]

try splitting it in half on your Sunday sleep if you can

hopefully you'd have more than 600k+ by then

is 50mil 9 encounters?

[tardy dirge]

Might be challenging cuz I might need to go to different places but will try out if I have chance.

[tardy dirge]

Yea 9

[willow grove]

probably depends which island tbf

[tardy dirge]

40+ would be 9 I think

[willow grove]

maybe at greengrass

[tardy dirge]

39 mil I got 7 44mil got 8

Bonus one is 1st sleep which is nap

[willow grove]

which island?

[tardy dirge]

Taupe

[nova nebula]

ooooh, and are you running 2 sleep sessions (i'm guessing 7 & 1.5h) across all three accounts?

[nova nebula]

so for you it's ingred > experi team (sleeping one session per night) > berry teams?

[willow grove]

il do a midday update now explaining what I've done for last night's sleep

OK I'll start with the berry team. this is the latest line up

since it was from a caterpie it has the perks of even more limit and extra 2 main skill levels for free

I've picked the "best" metapod on this account even though its not the best one out there to evolve into a butterfree

the latest strength but it could have been more as I'm waiting for a few ingredients to make the lunch meal

even though there's 5 ingredients magnet S mons, it's sometimes not enough to fill my 27 pot size due to all of them being a berry specialist and only gives me honey

I did 2 sleep sessions and got more encounters as I've predicted using the latest threshold by salty

first session

second session

2 sleep's has 11 encounters for both sessions with a total of 395 research xp and 738 shards. no good camp set or any incenses used

I really thought I had 6 encounter on the second sleep but the lower threshold for 6 seems to be close and different from what salty has on the latest collection

Could anyone post what their hauls were for one 100 sleep score last night's sleep?

so I can compare

I made a Google sheet so it's easy for me to track each account's hauls every night

it'll be much easier to compare but it's still a WIP

next is the experimental team

this is the latest lineup and I'll explain about the low energy in a bit

this is the latest strength

the experimental team actually overtook the berry team because of a few reasons

one I made an extra meal that has a better recipe and higher base power due to the extra fiery herbs as the remaining ingredients

another is the charge strength S main skill from gastly, pikachu and diglett activated a few times since yesterday's midday update. they all add up since its also multiplied by 1.15 due to the island boost

this team is basically an all around team with 3 berry specialists that has 2 mons which are favourite berries(lum) and 2 ingredients mons that has a relative high base power ingredients (fiery and tomato)

also more ingredients since there's 2 ingredients magnet S mons to provide extra ingredients

THIS is why I made this kind of line up so it won't be held back. it's why i named it experimental to further take advantage of the 28% extra xp boost

PS I just realised all 3 team have a butterfree now

HOWEVER I did fail at the 2 sleep sessions since the second sleep was cut short due to me not charging the phone that this account was on and the battery ran out when I woke up

first session

second session

even though I failed to get a total of 100 sleep score, I still had 9 encounters, 262 research xp and 506 shards for 2 sessions

I was just under the threshold for 6 encounters on the first session and just got over the threshold for 4 encounters on failed sleep

this is why the energies are low for all members currently

OK last is ingredients team

I put it last since its also last in terms of ranking out of all 3

[willow grove]

latest line up for the ingredients team

I've managed to level 10 this spheal as I was running out of pure oil alot

this will probably a staple mon to be used on snowdrop tundra

I've been making this meal and and it's atleast leveling up nicely since its already a level 15 recipe

latest strength is only 84k

this account has still a lot of ingredients even though I have a 27 size pot

i still want more pure oils though

I also did 2 sleep sessions

first sleep session

second sleep session

so there's 10 encounters, 306 research xp and 598 shards

I was just over the 6 threshold encounters for the first session and just under the 5 threshold encounter

[willow grove]

@round pulsar follow up here if you want

[round pulsar]

ohh, you're here too

what's this channel?

[willow grove]

my daily diary for 3 different "playstyle"

started it last monday

[round pulsar]

interesting!

[willow grove]

3 accounts. berry specialists, ingredients(mostly ingredients magnet S mons)and experimental (hybrid)

one thing in common is there is a butterfree on each team now

since its one of the best and easiest stage 3 mon currently

I've been testing out double sleep for the past few days and that Japanese player just proved my point

[round pulsar]

which do you think is the most promising so far?

[nova nebula]

that double sleep prevails over single and also manual sleep logging?

[round pulsar]

as you might have seen me post, I'm all in on berries this week with 5 pikachus and the grepa snorlax fave

[willow grove]

experimental but I like ingredients team since I can make lots of recipes

I have Moomoo Caprese salad at level 15 already since I have salads this week on that account

[round pulsar]

do you think it will outperform pure focus on snorlax's favorite berries?

[willow grove]

definitely as you encounter lots of mons and you don't when doing a manual one and only one 100 sleep score

[willow grove]

if staying on one island yes when the berry team is fixed but if moving alot no since they level up wherever island they're on

[round pulsar]

you mean the island bonus will help the ingredient team more?

[willow grove]

not a fan of full berry as its seems "boring" to me personally

[willow grove]

i think I explained it wrong

berry team will win IF you stay on the same island because you don't have to change the line up

[nova nebula]

u do, but also im currently running the manual sleep strat as well

just for the bonus biscuits

im kind of undecided on what to stick with because they both have their pros

[willow grove]

eventually there'll be new islands and you have to make a new set of favourite berry mons to take advantage

[round pulsar]

ah, makes sense.

[nova nebula]

im just seeing how people progress to see which method is more ‘effective’

[round pulsar]

Yeah I like the idea of a hybrid approach, but one thing I'm really curious about are skill specialists

I wonder if their str output can ever approach berry or ingredient specialists of similar level

[willow grove]

so it'll take a toll on resources even more but the ingredients team is on your team all the time especially the ingredients magnet S mons as they drop whatever ingredients you've discovered

[willow grove]

I guess you need BOTH skill trigger subskills along with main skill chance up

[round pulsar]

berry specialists get snorlax fav berries to work with, plus leveling grants extra berry strength, and ingredient specialists have big ingredient unlocks at level 30 and 60, plus recipe multipliers. But skills don't seem to have anything like that, unless levelling also greatly scales skill proc chance

mmh. perhaps.

[willow grove]

they have the island boost but berries get it as well

[round pulsar]

yeah

does island boost not effect cooked food?

[willow grove]

I choose the 3 specific charge mons on my experimental team as they "fit" my playstyle

2 are ingredients specialists with high base ingredients at level 30 (gastly and diglett) and pika which is the starter mon who is a berry specialist

[round pulsar]

I need to go sleep, but I'll probably look through this channel a bit more tomorrow

[willow grove]

no worries

[round pulsar]

[willow grove]

oh yeah it's on your profile when is midnight for anyone that clicks

smart

[willow grove]

so you're in the eastern timezone I'm guessing?

[round pulsar]

australia

[willow grove]

makes sense since its plus 8 hours according to your profile for me

how did you do that if I may ask

[willow grove]

@crude glade this what you want?

[crude glade]

Do you have any screenshots of what the frequency was before it hit level 10?

[willow grove]

I have 4 spheals

base speed is around 93 mins

with +speed nature it's 83 mins

plus with help M is 70 mins

[crude glade]

Heck yeah, ty. Your subskill +nature spheal 15% faster than the other spheal with help speed nature, so that's 14% from the subskill and 1% from the level difference

I'd call that pretty conclusively confirmed

thanks for sparing me from that level grind, lol

[willow grove]

that why I chose that specific one even though it has -energy nature

[willow grove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V91sp-ehwV-orsRWMczSZ_zxe349X9XhKcdPPAuyvZw/edit?usp=drivesdk

OK midday update

I've created a Google sheet so it's easier for me to track the hauls for each account. It also includes the threshold provided by @desert phoenix so you can determine how many hours, score or strength you need to get a specific power. it's still a WIP as the thresholds are not fully confirmed. I'll be updating when more data has been collected. Thanks to @round pulsar, I used a lookup to automatically return the # of encounter according to your power. However I could only do it for greengrass but if anyone that has a better knowledge of functions then feel free to tell me how to do it properly. I'm thinking some sort of if or lookup using the B1 cell to determine which ranges to search for A8:A31.

let's start with my favourite team the ingredients

nothing much has changed but my ingredients inventory is nearly full in preparation for the Sunday double pot size

latest strength and my ingredients bag

I'm trying to save up alot of ingredients to make Moomoo Caprese salad and add a lot of fiery herbs to boost the base recipe on Sunday as its already level 15

[round pulsar]

do you have any idea how often you get critical cooks?

[willow grove]

I take screenshots and share it here

if not a crit I don't upload

my best crit meal last sunday

[round pulsar]

ooh, alright.

[willow grove]

I had desserts last week

I did the double sleep to get more encounters

[round pulsar]

I guess I'm interested in knowing the proportion of normal vs critical cooks, and whether maybe you're more likely to get criticals for high tier recipes. I haven't had a single critical this week I think

[willow grove]

first session

[round pulsar]

but I've just been doing apple juice pretty much

[willow grove]

second session

[willow grove]

since you have a full berry team that's the tradeoff

it's like my berry team

[round pulsar]

seems good for seeing a lot of pokemon

[willow grove]

just the basic honey recipe

[willow grove]

I used the threshold and your lookup to my spreadsheet to actually target how many I want to encounter

[willow grove]

@dire hearth @merry rivet Please could one of you pin this spreadsheet here. thanks

@round pulsar how could I improve the lookup function you told me

I want to include the other islands using the B1 cell and finding the right one from A8:A31

[round pulsar]

idk off the top of my head

sorry

[willow grove]

no worries it'll do for now thanks anyways

[willow grove]

could you try opening it and see if you can edit anything?

[round pulsar]

I don't have edit permissions

[willow grove]

Sunday seems to have a boost but not confirmed. I'd been getting crits on all accounts during Sunday

[willow grove]

good

how about the other sheets?

[round pulsar]

I wonder if it might be related to higher tier recipes. I was getting some when I was actually cooking proper recipes last week

[round pulsar]

I might be able to figure it out later, but it's late and and I'm kinda zoning out rn

[round pulsar]

other sheets?

[willow grove]

maybe on top of Sunday double pot size there is also a higher crit chance for better recipes

tabs

[round pulsar]

ye, same for other tabs, the whole spreadsheet is view only

[willow grove]

cool thanks

don't want other people messing my tracking

do you do 1 sleep session?

if so you can copy the file and fill it up for your account as I want to compare if it's actually better doing double sleep

I know that it is but just want to confirm

gave access

yes another level 2 closeness

gimme that free evo item next

next is the experimental team

no change as well as its actually doing really good

latest strength and the recipe I've been making since the hybrid line up gives me ingredients and still boost my berries production

it's currently first out of all 3 as the berry team is on an "experiment" that I'll be sharing with @round pulsar

did double sleep as well

first sleep haul

[round pulsar]

I can do that, probably tomorrow

[willow grove]

second sleep haul

yes thanks

it's not ready for the 12 hours that I haven't logged in to the app

oh not about the experiment my bad

this team will probably reach masters again by Sunday as its recipes and berry mons are getting stronger every week due to 28% extra xp boost

so last is the berry team

like I said I'm trying an expirement to see if energy is actually a big factor when collecting berries/ingredients.

so I've decided to not "sleep" with the berry team for Thursdays sleep and the team has 0 energy since last night

this was the last time I closed the app and won't be opening it until 12 hours has passed to not trigger the sneak snacking/overflow message

[merry rivet]

Done 🙂

[willow grove]

thanks alot

not meant to include the diglett pic it was from the experimental team

it had -energy as its nature and drains it's energy alot faster and want to confirm myself how much its getting after I sleep

also thanks again to @round pulsar for letting me know that you don't have to exit each screen if viewing individual team members. you just have to hold on the team preview instead and you can scroll left or right to view all 5 of them

[willow grove]

@round pulsar ok got it

clip is a bit too long but I want to be thorough and record everything @round pulsar

just 8k after 12 hours of overflow and normal berry feeding with no meals

lum is favourite berry of the week

[jolly inlet]

For the sleep splitting my two sleeps will be so weird haha

6-10am first sleep every day and 2-6am second sleep

@crude glade

[crude glade]

Thanks!

[willow grove]

try looking on the pinned post

it's a spreadsheet I made to track my sleep hauls

could be better on the look functions to include other islands

[crude glade]

Doesn't half-and-half sleep affect how rested you feel in the morning? Sleep cycles don't always take the same amount of time and they supposedly average around an hour and a half, so if you're waking yourself up at 4am every night that feels like you're going to be waking up at rough times and sacrificing rl health for optimization a decent chunk of the nights

Morning suck enough as-is, lol

[willow grove]

you can skip the research review after the first sleep

just collect berries/ingredients and go back to sleep

[crude glade]

Interesting

[willow grove]

but make sure to do it before 4 am

[crude glade]

I hadn't tested that because I wasn't sure if it would cache more than one research review and didn't want to risk losing one

I'm pretty sure my partner would kill me for that 4AM alarm, but I might give it a try on the weeks when she's not here

Why are there cells for adult hours and children hours? lol

[willow grove]

MAKE SURE you do the research for the second with out skipping

then do the first afterwards

so sleep, wake up before 4, skip research then collect berries/ingredients and go back to sleep before 4

wake up then DO second sleep research, collect berries/ingredients AND review first research

[willow grove]

it's the formula for max log hours for different ages

I know children is 11.5 but haven't used it just there incase someone does need it

I don't think you can change the green cells as I've locked them

please could you check and confirm?

[willow grove]

that's actually good you can take advantage of the double size pot boost on Sunday morning for the Saturday dinner meal

just make sure to NOT FEED Snorlax his Saturday dinner and do it on between 4am-6am on Sunday morning as it counts as Sunday after the daily reset

[jolly inlet]

That is actually very funny

4 snorlax Sunday meals

[willow grove]

BUT you can save the last dinner for Monday

to get an early boost

especially if moving island but you need to have LOTS of ingredients as you can't predict what you'll get on that week

[crude glade]

I didn't know this, that's wild. I thought 8.5 was bad

[willow grove]

it's when you set up your age at the beginning when you create your account

[crude glade]

I can't edit any cells, link is view only

so you're set

[willow grove]

thanks

[round pulsar]

@willow grove did I fill this out correctly?

[willow grove]

thanks I'll add a good camp set and an incense column to improve it

are you able to edit some of the cells that have a formula?

i think ive locked it but want to make sure it is locked

[round pulsar]

yeah, but that's cause I made a copy of your sheet to edit, rather than edit yours

[willow grove]

can you try editing on the one pinned. i gave you access but im not sure if you can still edit cells that had been locked by me

[round pulsar]

seems to be working

[willow grove]

nice thanks

[round pulsar]

btw it's a little messy cause my sheet isn't really designed for this, but here's the summary for your experiment

I put it all in the first row as if it were the first collection of the morning, which is why most of it appears in the overnight summary. The skill proc went in the daytime summary cause you can only collect skill procs during the day. But the details should be correct I think.

[willow grove]

i did another experiment

ill explain it

[round pulsar]

other details

[willow grove]

thanks for the help again

[round pulsar]

your island bonus for greengrass is 15% right?

[willow grove]

yeah forgot to mention it

[round pulsar]

figured it out from the str of the berries

[round pulsar]

I've gotta go for a bit but I'll read this when I get the chance

o/

[willow grove]

OK midday update. Just a heads up to everyone that they should be switching to their ingredients specialists mons in order to have enough ingredients to take advantage of Sunday's double size pot

I've also updated the the google sheets attached to include a good camp set and 2 incenses column thanks to @round pulsar . I was debating to include rank and RP but I think that could be a different data collection on itself but who knows I might include it in the future

so lets start with experimental team. no change in line up as I'm still trying to level up the diglett to level 30 asap in order to unlock leeks for better recipes

latest strength is 160k and on its way to master 1 by Monday morning

I'm trying to gather extra ingredients mainly fiery herbs to add to the basic honey recipe for desserts. since I only have a size 21 pot, the max size will be 42 on Sunday. I got this crit meal making the basic honey recipe

I did double sleep and I've updated the pinned sheet to reflect the haul for both sessions

first session

second session

forgot to mention I've added a candies column so it's easier to monitor how much extra candies I'm actually getting

@round pulsar please to use the recent one when inputing your results

as you can see I encountered 2 dodrios on each sessions so it's not a loss if you try to do short nap on the first sleep session of the day. as long as your strength is high enough to reach the specific thresholds collected by @desert phoenix, you can still utilise the bonus biscuit you get on the first sleep

I didn't want to catch the dodrio as I want to encounter mainly gastly or diglett for their candies so I can level them up quickly asap

both sleep gave me a total of 13 dodou candies without even catching them, this is one of the main upside of double sleep. along with the 2 extra candies you give out to all your 50(hopefully) friends

also that is why I'm still staying in greengrass for the foreseeable future since the thresholds are much lower in order to encounter 7 mons. if you have above 170k strength then you can split in two sleep sessions in order to encounter at least 14 in one day. 15 if you have a good camp set active

[willow grove]

OK next is the ingredients team . no line up change as its too good imho it's not just the strength is falling behind alot

latest strength and current team overview

it's only 125k at ultra 4 and it might not get to master 1 unless I get one or two crit meals tomorrow. I'm currently leveling up the best recipe I could make with a 27 size pot which is Moomoo Caprese salad.

I'm trying to save the fiery herbs and cacao to add as extra ingredients when I have 54 size on Sunday.

I also did double sleep and updated on the pinned sheet

first sleep

second sleep

since the strength is much lower, the first session haul is lower compared to the experimental team

since this team has an ingredients based line up, I used the bonus biscuit on the larvitar from the first session. then I caught one on the second session. also that's 11 free larvitar candies for me

even though the nature contradicts this larvitar, it's level 10 subskill is tempting

also notice that this stage 1 mon is level 5 already. I'm not sure if my RP, DP or even rank played a role to that.

I don't think it's friendship level as I have 6 spheals and the highest level I caught was level 4 and it was when I had a lower RP, DP and rank

actuallyI lied its level 3 and I caught it on Aug 11

so level of mons that are caught definitely correlates with either, RP, DP or rank.

I'm leaning towards RP since its stands for research power but rank is a close second and DP is about the rarity of styles

OK last is the berry team. I'm still doing an experiment with @round pulsar to actually test of energy plays a big role with berry production

I've expanded on the experiment and actually did a manual sleep so that the whole team got 100 energy (almost all)

@round pulsar so I started at 10pm and didn't open the game after 12 hours later like the no energy experiment

12 hours later

ignore the ring notification

oops the last pic is from the experimental team latest strength

so I haven't "slept" with berry team and is still keeping up with the experimental team and is only 8k lower. I've been feeding snorlax using the minimum ingredients needed for the basic honey recipe as I can't produce enough extra ingredients

[distant rain]

@willow grove how to choose good Pokemons

[willow grove]

@tardy dirge try using the pinned sheets and copy it then fill it out using your daily hauls so its easier to compare to your previous sessions

[tardy dirge]

Let me pull up on my laptop

[willow grove]

Any ingredients magnet s mons plus mons that have leeks and mushrooms at level 30

[distant rain]

slowpoke tails?

[willow grove]

I dont like slow fam mainskill

[distant rain]

okay

[distant rain]

you mean any pokemon with the skill and any pokemon with those ingrediants

[willow grove]

Yes

[willow grove]

OK midday update. I've handed over the berry account to @nova nebula since I don't have another decent phone to handle the battery consumption using the app for too long while sleeping. good luck and I hope you'll continue to get a full butterfree squad since I've already started it for you

2 different ways to raise snorlax power

So with that out of the way, let's start with the experimental team aka "hybrid with extra 28% xp" line up. since it's Sunday I've swapped out the metapod to gather as much fiery herbs asap

I've slotted in my haunter and used all my spare candy ticket to level up gastly to level 30 asap

I could have evolved it for another haunter but I want to unlock tasty mushroom first

I could have made it into a gengar since I have enough sleep points for a link cable and had that extra 80 candies for the requirement

[round pulsar]

that looks like a strong team

[willow grove]

latest strength and the last meal I've made

I'm still saving up for lunch since this team doesn't produce enough ingredients for me atm compared to the ingredients account

also Im limited in making a few recipes as I'm prioritising unlocking mushrooms and leeks first

[willow grove]

its all thanks to the 28% extra xp boost

I've managed to reached masters 1 and might do 1 sleep session for sunday

or I Could split in half again to get 14 encounters

first sleep session

second sleep session

I just remembered I haven't updated the pinned sheet for Saturday sleep

@round pulsar have you managed to use the latest one?

I want to see if a higher strength got more candies than me

[round pulsar]

I haven't done that yet, I'll do it now

[willow grove]

OK my favourite team is next. the ingredients team aka ingredients magnet S mons (for the most part as of now)

current team gives me a just 3.2k person RP and I'm just waiting for a better spheal to dump my candies to it so that's it's ready when I do unlock snowdrop tundra. I was saving up for a waterstone so that Vaporeon will drop 14 extra ingredients for me thanks to it's skill up M level 10 subskill but I've been tempted to exchange biscuits to catch other mons

latest strength is just 10k shy of masters 1

I managed to catch up close to the experimental team due to one my meals critting today

the current level of Moomoo Caprese salad is level 20 and if I do get salads again in the future then it'll much easier for me to gain strength especially when I get a higher size pot along with lots of extra ingredients

this is also why I've unlocked fiery herbs and cacao early on and let my ingredients magnet mons drop them for me. i will be doing the same thing to weppinbell when I eventually unlock potatoes. I'll probably swap it out with another ingredients magnet S mons but Im not sure who it'll be

first sleep session

second sleep session

I've managed to caught the squirtle at level 5

with level 16 rank am, 3 friendship and 3.2k RP

[distant rain]

When will snorlax strength reset

If you don't mind can you share all of your teams

[willow grove]

I'm hoping to test what actually drives the level to change when the week resets or if managed to catch a other mon tomorrow for comparison

[willow grove]

4am Monday morning

[distant rain]

So 9 hours

If I sleep in next 3hr
Will the snorlax power will be zero

I wake at 7

[willow grove]

huh I do get more candies even though I'm at a lower strength

interesting

thanks btw

[distant rain]

Do you post videos in YouTube

[round pulsar]

yeah, I guess sleeping twice just lets you see more pokemon overall

[willow grove]

is it beneficial to use a friend incense early on the week?

I guess if you have decent high strength with good camp active it'll stack

[round pulsar]

Probably not ideal tbh. I started using them thinking this will be the biggest score I get for a while, and I wanted to capitalize on rarer pokemon being available, but so far I haven't caught anything spectacular.

[willow grove]

nope

[distant rain]

Okay

[willow grove]

if you have atleast 250k on greengrass I think it's ok

[round pulsar]

The luck incense was a good idea I think.

lots of shards from this week

[willow grove]

0 and new dish type plus different berries if on greengrass

[distant rain]

I decided to be in greengrass

Do i able to know fav berries before befriend

[round pulsar]

it's 3 random favorites every week in greengrass

[distant rain]

Ye

[willow grove]

I do it love when I get lots of extra ingredients after I wake up

[round pulsar]

oh wait, I misunderstood what you were asking sorry

[willow grove]

I nearly forgot I just want to post this as 4/5 members activated their mainskill after my first sleep @little falcon. I'll prove that Vaporeon is S tier and victreebel at least A tier😂 with in 2/3 weeks

[round pulsar]

it shows you the favorite berries after you finish research/feeding

[distant rain]

Okay thank you

[grim karma]

Luck Incense the last Day or maybe the last 2 Days in low Master Level is reaaaaly nice, you may not be able to catch some, but if a really high like 3rd stage mon (Charizard) etc. etc. show up... that's a lot of dream shards.

[round pulsar]

whoa, nice 🔥

[round pulsar]

yeah, hopefully I get some 3rd stage evolutions tonight

[willow grove]

what's your current strength?

[distant rain]

My first week ultra 2 reached

[round pulsar]

Going to bed soon

[nova nebula]

That’s pretty decent. Do you think you can hit ultra 3?

[distant rain]

I think so if I wake up before 4

Only 2k something to ultra 3

[nova nebula]

or u can just wake up between 4~6, use that window to boost ur next week by one meal

[round pulsar]

I only got great 5 in my first week, I really had no idea what to use

[willow grove]

Night but I think 21 bars mons need at least 40mil+ on greengrass to appear

[willow grove]

I didn't even get past 80 sleep score on the first week

had no idea what I was doing

[distant rain]

Wake up at 5 why

[round pulsar]

really? I hope that's not the minimum... I was going by this from serebii

[willow grove]

I haven't seen anyone post about it on greengrass

[round pulsar]

oh well, goodnight o/

[grim karma]

I've gotten a charizard to show on GG

[willow grove]

There is no update on the berry team since @nova nebula has the account and I don't really like the "berry" playstyle that much

You need to keep switching teams on every island and when there's additional ones in the future that's another set of mons you need to level up

[grim karma]

With a Drowsy Power of 32.6mil

[willow grove]

you?

wow that was last week aswell

[grim karma]

Yup that was mine

[willow grove]

caught?

[grim karma]

Couldn't Catch it wasn't even hungry

[willow grove]

nvm you don't have it as apfp😝

[grim karma]

And i didn't have master ball or anything.

[willow grove]

I'd rather evolve it tbh for the extra perks

[grim karma]

I'll be raising from a Charmander anyway

[willow grove]

yeah

[grim karma]

But it was nice to see - gave a butt-ton of dream shards

[distant rain]

I finnally understand but i already completed dinner

[willow grove]

@round pulsar just saw that shiny larvitar as your pic. did you catch it?

[willow grove]

@tight creek

it's somewhere far back

last week

[tight creek]

Oh here! Thanks, I'll dig in

[languid locust]

64 to 105 ingredients on a wakeup xD. 41

[tight creek]

I could only find #general message through search, and must have missed it through manual scroll

[willow grove]

why ingredients magnet S mons are S tier for me

[dry apex]

im a believer

[languid locust]

It might be that a hig level growlith/arcanine with its extra help on skillactivation is as well…

But probably also needs berryfinder or ingredient finder to work

[willow grove]

I actually have this growlithe sitting on the sidelines

I think it's still too early and need more candies and a firestone

plus the helping bonus is still not working imo @tight creek

I'd rather have that skill level up M on level 10

that's level 3 already

[tight creek]

just confirming we're only basing that on the Frequency from a Pokemon's profile page not being lowered, correct?
I couldn't find anything in this thread or anywhere else if you did any more in-depth experiments with measuring a pokemon's output over time with/without the bonus

[willow grove]

I haven't seen anyone saying this skill is good as well but not many has it probably

just need more people unlocking it and judge for themselves

[tight creek]

More important than whether the helping bonus is working or not, I'm interested in knowing if there's been some breakthroughs/research on measuring help speed that I'm not up to date on
Because afaik that's still the #1 mystery we're all trying to figure out--how to measure/calculate how much help to expect from a pokemon in a given time period

[willow grove]

for me it's a no atm but once it's patched then more speed for me

[willow grove]

@round pulsar is doing an experiment

on the mathcord server

[jolly inlet]

Helping bonus is top 2 skill imo

[tight creek]

We're trying to nail down whether it's functional rn or not
It certainly does not change the frequency on Pokemon's stat pages, which it should if it's working properly
I don't think we'll know whether it's actually working unless we empirically test whether the same team generates more help with/without it over a given time period

[dry apex]

I still need to know if it influences the whole team or just the team mates

[jolly inlet]

Why should it change the frequency when it’s working properly on the stats page?

It could just apply if that Pokémon is in the team to their actual frequency instead of changing RP/frequency when moving in/out of teams

From a development perspective it would make sense for it to not effect it or for it to. It’s just a choice they would have made imo

[tight creek]

+Speed natures and the singular Helping Speed subskill lower the Frequency displayed on the pokemon with that bonus, so we would expect the party-wide bonus to be reflected on stats pages when the helper pokemon is on the team

[jolly inlet]

I don’t think that’s something we would expect

Why would the party wide bonus be reflected on each individual Pokémon

Help speed natures and subskills apply only to that Pokémon directly so they improve it but helping bonus isn’t inherently applied to other Pokémon

I think it’s just a game developer choice whether you want to show it or not, not showing it being less complicated because then you don’t have to figure out who’s in the team and change their RP/frequencies

Noticing 5% would also be very tough without tracking the data of # of helps per day per pokemon with and without a Pokémon on a team

[tight creek]

Could be. I'm of the mindset we should believe it's working until proven otherwise, I'm just relaying why mcmandin thinks it is currently bugged

[tight creek]

(as best I understand it)

[jolly inlet]

Yep, I get why people would think that could be it being bugged or lead them to think that way

Whistles might be able to instantly prove if it is or isn’t working as well funnily enough

But also it could be the case that whistles don’t work with that skill and otherwise it works

[round pulsar]

Yeah

Also, I had the worst night ever with dogs barking keeping me awake 😔

Still, this Charmeleon is a decent consolation prize

[round pulsar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1psQ5st8ONwEk_MB8j4A_jdWz4Z_WIJyVCwaEMFLEgpU/edit?usp=sharing

week summary in your spreadsheet

[willow grove]

Cheers. Wow 300k+

[round pulsar]

since it seems clear that 2x sleeps is better for seeing more pokemon, how is it that you do that? Do you do a manual sleep?

[willow grove]

Manual sleep doesnt count it

Need actual sleep

But ONLY IF you can consistently do it irl

[willow grove]

Im trying to review and compare data but i just want to confirm you Wednesday and Thursday seen numbers

How come you have less encounters on Thursday even though you still have a camp and much higher power?

Thanks for filling out the sheet btw

[round pulsar]

Wednesday

That's Thursday

the animation doesn't seem to match the actual result

[willow grove]

Camp extra isnt included on the animation

[round pulsar]

ah

then I wonder why wednesday's animation only shows 7, when 9 appeared

[willow grove]

Did you happpen to have a specific pokemon incense active on Wednesday?

[round pulsar]

oh! I might have actually

I forgot about that

[willow grove]

That's the only reason for an additional one

Make sense now

[round pulsar]

you're right, sorry

[willow grove]

Ok thanks for confirming

No worries

Another question you took advantage of the friend incense on Thursday and caught a few mons?

[round pulsar]

yeah

[willow grove]

What style was it?

Because from my previous experience, catching a mon will get double the r xp and shards you get

Especially if its a 4*

[round pulsar]

I had hungry 1 star ghastly, hungry 1 star caterpie, hungry 1 star haunter

[willow grove]

Im just trying to justify why the the increase in shards and r xp from Wednesday to Thursday

You caught all of them?

[round pulsar]

those three

[willow grove]

Make sense even more now

[round pulsar]

also I didn't catch it, but the 4 star gave 1305 shards

[willow grove]

Which 4* stlke mon was it

[round pulsar]

Mankey

[willow grove]

Was just about to ask that

[round pulsar]

I didn't know catching gave extra shards and xp. But you're right, I got 230 extra shards after the research phase.

it seems to be roughly double the amount I got for researching those pokemon

[willow grove]

Yeah i was trying to see if the 6% shards subskill worked as i had a mon with it unlocked on the berry team

It did and it stacks with the double boost if you friended them

Thats why i try catch a4* as !uch as possible eveb if dont

Like the mon

[round pulsar]

hm

[willow grove]

Oras long as its _onky 5 bars or hungry

[round pulsar]

if it's hungry, that's a good idea, but often its not, and it costs a lot of biscuits

yeah

[willow grove]

Its even better if there's duplicate andyou catch the higher style

[round pulsar]

also higher tier evolutions give a lot of shards and xp, but often take a lot of biscuits

[willow grove]

Byt you need,to remember where in the map as they change location aftwr the research bot and comes down from Snorlax

[round pulsar]

yeah.. how do you tell if there's multiple?

[willow grove]

I mean duplicate mons

So a, lower style then the higher one

[round pulsar]

yeah.

[willow grove]

Oh when they come,dowm from they qre close to Snorlax's leg

[round pulsar]

ah, that's good to know

[willow grove]

Luck incense is for shards really ght?

RIght?

Ive never used one before

[round pulsar]

yes, it doubles shards

[willow grove]

Ok after comparing your, account with 2 of mine. i can say that double sleep is better IF the same variables such as camps and incences

Your Wednesday and the ingredients account friday have similar power amd i got more, candies even though i dont have a camp and incense used

[round pulsar]

Makes sense. I don't think I want to change my sleep schedule for that bonus, but it is interesting

[willow grove]

Same,with experimental but Thursday instead

It ll stack even more if you use 2 incense every sleep

[round pulsar]

I guess one downside is you don't hit those higher sleep power thresholds

[willow grove]

Whales could literally be so ahead if they use this

LIke,the Japanese player

[round pulsar]

yeah

[willow grove]

HE clearly does this

Min max sleep

[round pulsar]

lol

[willow grove]

18 sleep score,for a nap thats the minimum you could get

And still get the 80 threshold for,the extra diamonds

LIkenhe meeds a

Needa it

Cant type, today

[hearty venture]

Lmao, I remembered when this thread was called 3 different ways to raise Snorlax

What happened to one of them

[round pulsar]

he died 😔

[willow grove]

One of phones cant handle overnight usage everyday

Its 5 years o

I handed it over to someone @nova nebula

[willow grove]

GOt your absol yet?

[hearty venture]

Not yet 😩

On average, I tend to reach Ultra 2 on Friday

Which leaves me like, 4-5 attempts

And for the past few weeks, I have been learning how to manually trigger dozing

[willow grove]

I got masters 1 in both of the accounts remaining

[hearty venture]

I only just had a breakthrough yesterday

[willow grove]

On the last day

[hearty venture]

I suck at triggering dozing naturally

[round pulsar]

ooh, fellow absol appreciator

[hearty venture]

So I went and installed a phone vibrating app

And went on a journey to discover how to trigger all the sleep type artificially

I finally found out what the criteria is for dozing

[round pulsar]

pfff

[hearty venture]

For dozing to register, you need 2 sleep sessions.

One at the start, and one at the end

You can make a lot of noise in the middle. I use a vibration app to vibrate my phone every 1 min

But before ending the sleep session, it is important to let your app rest for a few minutes

To trick the program that you fell back to sleep

This one is my failed attempt

I didn't know about the requirement for an end sleep

I intend to make an infographic for this eventually

I spent like 2 weeks learning the mechanics of the sleep type

[round pulsar]

that's impressive

[hearty venture]

Pokemon Sleep? More like Pokemon Woke

[round pulsar]

[hearty venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868309856120078336/1101146803933548654/lv_0_20230427220352.gif

[round pulsar]

incidentally I get dozing half the time, but haven't seen an absol yet

[hearty venture]

It only starts appearing at Ultra 2

So for the first few days at the start of a new week, my goal is to rush my Snorlax strength

I abused my artificial sleep type technique to target pokemon I need

[willow grove]

FOr me its 170k on green grass so i can splitninto 2 session easily to get 14 encounters

[hearty venture]

I'll be taking your technique too, to maximise my encounters

I have 6 pichus, 3 monkeys and 3 houndours

And a lot of other Pokemon

I can quite comfortably hit the snorlax fav Berry now, my net is quite wide

I'm lucky this week, my Snorlax wants Grepa and Cheri

So I put a team of angry monkey and rats

[round pulsar]

ooh, pikachu week

I got master 5 last week with pikachus

[hearty venture]

Nice

I cap myself at Ultra 2, because I want to keep my spawn pool small so I can meet an Absol better

[round pulsar]

interesting

[hearty venture]

Once I reach U2, I switch to an ingredient team

To start collecting ingredient for the next week

Running a berry team burns your ingredients fast

By the 2nd day, my Snolax's diet would consist of mixed juice blended from sausage and oil

Last week my Snorlax likes Rwast, so I ran 3 Spheals

[willow grove]

I got to master 1 with an ingredients team witj no fav berries

[hearty venture]

I had so much oil

[willow grove]

Ill shownon my midnday update later

[hearty venture]

I haven't actually tried going beyond U2 deliberately

[willow grove]

Banking on cooking

[hearty venture]

Not sure how far I can go if I actually try

[willow grove]

Im a chef in the making😂

[hearty venture]

But seems like Masters will be easy for me

Who let em cook

[willow grove]

@terse sequoia follow here foe tips

[nova nebula]

oooh damn

[willow grove]

Same as last week

[hearty venture]

The pros of having an ingredient team is consistency

[willow grove]

It was 50-50 contribution

[nova nebula]

so you rotated between your berry and ingr team

[willow grove]

Wait till you see the leveks of my mon as a f2p

Especially aftwr that free 30 vandies

[nova nebula]

ooooh you’re not using the candies for Evo?

[willow grove]

No ingredients all the way

[willow grove]

Depends

But i want that level 30 ingredients

[nova nebula]

sheeeesh, damn

Thats impressive tbh

[willow grove]

Especially the mushroomsa, potatoes md leeks

[nova nebula]

def a way to build your way up

still unsure what works better — berry vs ingrs

[willow grove]

My team will scale much easier no matter which island

[hearty venture]

My initial believe is that Berries are more beginner friendly

Ingredient becomes a mid-game strategy, once you upgrade your pot size

[willow grove]

Yeah but my hybrid experimental team might just win

Since it has the 28% extra xp boost so far

[hearty venture]

Sorry, where did the 28% boost come from

[willow grove]

Ive been trying to find another one with an +xp nature to even speed up the leveling

Level 10 subskill

[hearty venture]

Mmm

[willow grove]

It stacks

Like i said wait till you see the levels

[hearty venture]

Feels really luck depending. This assumes you managed to befriend one with a level boosting sub skill

[willow grove]

Ive been pumping candies likw its Halloween😂

[hearty venture]

Nice, I may want to try out your hybrid strategy on the later part

Eventually once I do find an Absol, I want to build a strategy around it

Since Absol is an ingredient specialist, and gives mushrooms

[willow grove]

Your famous

Ive seen yiur infographic shared alot

[languid locust]

the absol graphics? 😄

[willow grove]

Yeah the berry one

[terse sequoia]

Very interesting channel, I need to get more pokemon, I only have 6 atm, as I only started a few days ago, but its very interesting that you can abuse berries that much

[willow grove]

Its the beginner friendly "meta"

[hearty venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868309856120078336/1101146803933548654/lv_0_20230427220352.gif

Kinda wished more people also seen my comics XD

[terse sequoia]

yeh sounds easy enough, just need to find mons with snorlax's fav berries :P, im gonna sleep in 30 min 😄

[willow grove]

Laters

[hearty venture]

Someone from my discord server also shared that my infographic got featured by a youtuber

[willow grove]

I told you your g

FAmous

[hearty venture]

[terse sequoia]

btw I sometimes create discord bots, would it be interesting to have certain commands for discord in relation to pokemon sleep?

[hearty venture]

If you use the !!dozing command, an Absol will appear to judge your sleeping habits

[terse sequoia]

!!dozing

!dozing

[willow grove]

Lol

[hearty venture]

I mean, if you want to make a bot XD

[terse sequoia]

😄

[hearty venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868309856120078336/1123390956243275857/lv_0_20230627150630.gif

[willow grove]

I didn't know that gulible was spelt with one l

[terse sequoia]

well thats easy to make, that would take me 5 minutes :P, but I was rather thinking of commands like /nature pokemon:pikachu then it would return the best nature for pikachu, or what ever

[willow grove]

😂

[terse sequoia]

its an example 😛

but it shows whats possible

but idk if there is any use

[hearty venture]

Sounds awesome, but that would require a lot of research first

Right now we still don't have a fixed meta

And also we are getting more new pokemon

Things are about to change

[terse sequoia]

yeh, best thing I could think of right now that doesn't require much research would be an ingredient helper

[hearty venture]

Maybe we finally will have Berry specialist for all the berries

[terse sequoia]

all the berries

how would that work

gives fav berry 😛

that would be op

[hearty venture]

No I mean, right now there are some berries without Berry specialist

Like Bulk Berry

[terse sequoia]

@proper cosmos you also here?

[hearty venture]

I was hoping the next set of new Pokemon would fill those gaps

[terse sequoia]

😛 now you get xp for chatting here 🤣

[hearty venture]

So we don't have Berry specialist for Fairy, Psychic, Ghost, Rock and Steel yet

[terse sequoia]

aah I see

[languid locust]

I would like to know more about the dozing app. How do you set the vibrations up? Do you still have to sleep regularly so it listens to breathing?

[hearty venture]

Stay tuned, I'm in the midst of creating a new inforgraphic on how to trigger all the sleep types artificially

There are very interesting explainations

But first, I need to call my Absol over. Wheres my celebrity at XD

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868309856120078336/1122914152508313630/lv_0_20230626233940.gif

[hearty venture]

Fun fact, I haven't been tracking my sleep. I use the sleep app on every activity but my actual sleep

Disastrous indeed

[nova nebula]

how does it work though — u just run a fav berry team then switch over to ingr mid week?

[willow grove]

Just the mons that gives me enough ingredients

[nova nebula]

oh wow, what do u usually run it with

[willow grove]

Which team?

If the experimental then gastlly and pika is staple since they're the ones with xp boost

Butterfree is there for the ingredients and berry balance

Atm im leveling up a diglett

The last spot is interchangeable

Either another mon that gives alot of ingredients like haunter

Or bellsprout

[willow grove]

@round pulsar fyi

[round pulsar]

ooh, ty

[willow grove]

Oh could you do me favour. Since you are great at spreadsheets, would you mind tracking the closeness xp gains from both of my accounts. I want to know how fast it actually takes to go from 0 to level 1 closeness. Also the gains needed per level

Im guessing pretty quick since i double sleep for most of the week

[round pulsar]

uhhhh

[willow grove]

So far it s +1 right?

Or 2

Im doing it on my side for a few people that just turned level 2

[round pulsar]

I think I already have my hands full with tracking things right now, sorry mcmandin. Also, I seriously am not good at spreadsheets ><

[willow grove]

No worries

[round pulsar]

well

[willow grove]

If you say so. I could tell by the way you told me jow to do the lookup function

[round pulsar]

the data will be there, because I'm recording my friend candies, if I ever get time to look over it I'll be able to see how long it took

I googled that ><

[willow grove]

Sure

[round pulsar]

haha, I feel like you're convinced I'm a spreadsheet master, but I'm really just figuring things out as I go along, I promise

[willow grove]

The way that your own file about tracking the berries seems "professional" to me

[tight creek]

shhh you're giving away industry secrets!

[round pulsar]

[willow grove]

I normally use stack overflow for excel queries

Yeah im not fond of sheets

Some formatting is behind compared to excel

But i guess the sharing feature is a good thing to have