Did you prepare ingredients beforehand? Or only using berries team?
## of mons range
undone void
storm pendant
Did you prepare ingredients beforehand? Or only using berries team?
my first full week (next week) will be without much prep but based on raen team production i should make 1.5mil+
i don't know how accurate that is but i hope so!
this week i did a bit of prep but i don't think i will hit M3
actually this week if i continue at my current rate i would hit M3. but i am losing ing so will need to swap out one my amp for 2nd ing mon
storm pendant
actually this week if i continue at my current rate i would hit M3. but i am los...
FYI this graph is from my spreadsheet available in the pinned comment. it also estimates your number of spawns for each night in the week and highlights if you are going to be close to the threshold
it assumes a linear growth so may not be useful if you are swapping your team around a lot
also some arbitrary modifier is applied on sunday for the pot bonuses.
undone void
Yes, I think the ranking requirement would drop down to G5.
The same spawn range compare to last island (LL) is around 1.7x. It’s much high than previous islands 
ST —> LL actually has smallest jump, but maybe because the level cap at 50 at that time, so feel much more difficult
heavy laurel
@undone void how about this one for min 6?
undone void
<@690945385048309872> how about this one for min 6?
Whoops, skipped that one before. Will add it now 
let me check if there're any new reports 
heavy laurel
Twitter
^ I like those blue screen reports, never have to worry about extra spawns in the count
This looks like 5 mons for 14,481,666 (unless Shuppet could be an incense?) https://x.com/qjlyux3kkq28257/status/1841783934134452494?s=46&t=gMlRRsMTKi_8iSZe41W3BA
edit: never mind, this is already within the 5 range 😴
undone void
@heavy laurel did you see anything for that 3 spawn from those JP accounts?
rigid basin
This looks like 5 mons for 14,481,666 (unless Shuppet could be an incense?) http...
for future reference im 99% sure shuppet incenses aren't a thing
pretty sure they didn't start doing incenses for new pokemon in boxes until the lapis event and valentine's event
unfortunately there isn't a definitive list of which ones are possible as far as i know so i can't prove myself fully but looking at the event bundles and missions from halloween 2023 shuppet is not there
heavy laurel
I can usually remember standard mission rewards, but not the event mission incense or shop incense … too many to keep track of without a definitive reference
rigid basin
i have all the bundle incenses so i can make a quick list of mons that shouldn be able to be incensed from ogpp
hollow quail
Twitter
rigid basin
i have all the bundle incenses so i can make a quick list of mons that shouldn b...
mons able to be pulled from incense (ogpp)
dozing
metapod
grubbin
sprigatito
snoozing
pikachu
clefairy
eevee
mareep
raikou
shinx
dedenne
fuecoco
slumbering
graveler
pichu
wooper
aron
quaxly
heavy laurel
https://x.com/karin_u2/status/1841804049643143571?s=46&t=qfLXWKTYQA5f54zoCzcV3g
Thank you!!!
rigid basin
incense spawn always takes last (or second to last with good camp) spot on the list so if the spawns don't line up with current data and it's one of those mons it's probably incense
undone void
couples of updates from the thread
heavy laurel
@hollow quail Would you happen to have a source for the 5,977,200 DP from the Wikiwiki that shows 3 spawns?
(My best Google Translate attempt:) 3 つのスポーンを示す Wikiwiki からの 5,977,200 DP のソースを偶然入手できますか?
tepid flax
8 spawns being slightly under M1 (U5) is interesting
hollow quail
<@898084778123853864> Would you happen to have a source for the 5,977,200 DP fro...
Since I am not the one who edited it, I can't find it. Wikiwiki can be edited by anyone, so it's often updated without a source.
If the values are incorrect, I think the users of my tool (https://nitoyon.github.io/pokesleep-tool/) will let me know, haha.
heavy laurel
@hollow quailI'm looking back for sources of numbers we have that aren't on your list. Here's one for 6 min, 30,677,700 #1134842457469759499 message
hollow quail
thx!!
heavy laurel
FWIW, the PP-6 range could still end up being like the LL-7 and CB-8 borders 🤞
undone void
FWIW, the PP-6 range could still end up being like the LL-7 and CB-8 borders 🤞
good find!! I was thinking there must be one!
heavy laurel
thx!!
Here's the proof for PP-8 min, 101,587,550: #1134842457469759499 message
And here's the proof for PP-5 min (14,363,859) and PP-6 max (49,831,300): #1134842457469759499 message
Oh, and I noticed the comma placement is wonky for the PP-7 min number on the Wiki; it's showing 5,131,3600 but it should look like 51,313,600
unborn sandal
rigid basin
we don't have to hit 1mil for 8 spawns ??
undone void
What a good news 
undone void
Twitter
Twitter
OGPP spawn range (min - max) :
3 mons: 0 - 5,977,200
4 mons: 6,056,666 - 14,310,100
5 mons: 14,363,859 - 30,483,800
6 mons: 30,501,800 - 49,831,300
7 mons: 49,983,200 - 96,637,014
8 mons: 98,447,000
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storm pendant
Wow so close already!
heavy laurel
not sure if graveler from incense or not
Google Translate makes it sound like he's saying "This is the result with a camp ticket and no incense", so should be a valid 6 min report (like you have) 👍
heavy laurel
https://x.com/A_fuwafuwaneko/status/1841588929553899981
Hmm ... this one seems like it could be 6 or 7, depending if Metapod was from incense or not ... 
undone void
Wow so close already!
Yep! It's very close now~ do you think we should back to normal mode ?
crude birch
Hmm ... this one seems like it could be 6 or 7, depending if Metapod was from in...
he says not using in the self-reply
heavy laurel
I've got 304,919 strength right now; so gonna try to hit 100 sleep tonight and see if that PP-6 border is the same as LL-7
May try to see if I can hit 304,917 on my alt to hit the under side of the border, if my speculation is right 🤓
undone void
I just did the math for that. But I can only try it next week 
Great you're going to do it!
heavy laurel
My alt has a little bit of Extra Tasty bonus (12%) that hasn't hit yet, so I'm kinda nervous to rely on cooking to hit my target 😬 ... but I need to cook a meal for the PGP to sync and count my final strength 🙄
heavy laurel
whew, dodged a meal crit 
... alt going to sleep at 304,917 🎉
tepid flax
when all communities work together its just insanely faster
storm pendant
Yep! It's very close now~ do you think we should back to normal mode ?
i will start updating the pinned comment but i don't think i can do it as frequently as the updates come. also if everybody prefers the min-man format now maybe we should not bother with the pinned comment?
would it be too early to update the infographic?
-monranges
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nocturne hatch
i like this design 
might be worthwhile making a phone-friendly version at some point but not super high priority imo
nocturne hatch
i will start updating the pinned comment but i don't think i can do it as freque...
genuinely not sure which of the formats is better
ngl I didnt even notice a different format was used than last time, lol
probably for the finetuning the old format is better, maybe for now this is clearer?
heavy laurel
min-max is good for people to tell what range they need to hit to guarantee hitting a certain number; lower-upper is better for us that are looking for a target DP inside the range to indicate an improved (narrowed) threshold
IMHO, lower-upper is what we're concerned with while researching, and min-max is the "final" product for consumers
heavy laurel
Boom! 💥 PP-5 30,491,700 & PP-6 30,491,900
radiant wren
Wild.
worthy meteor
Well .. that one really accurate
lucid forge
Yeahhh at this point pretty sure it's 30,491,710 score from LL
hollow quail
Twitter
heavy laurel
hollow quail
Twitter
hollow quail
PP-7, 49,935,290
https://x.com/dancerdancergg/status/1842729814823989730?s=46&t=qfLXWKTYQA5f54zoCzcV3g
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heavy laurel
heavy laurel
49,869,640
weak linden
OGPP spawn range (min - max) :
3 mons: 0 - __5,977,200__
4 mons: 6,056,666 - 14...
Is this the first time that we don't need Master 1 rank for 8 spawns
Why though?
They made the map easy
Sad
I think there is a bug
Maybe they will fix it, hopefully
heavy laurel
heavy laurel
I'm gonna sacrifice a full 100 sleep tonight to try to split the uncertainty range for PP-7; aiming for 25% and 75% of the range over two accounts. (615,880 x 81 and 745,058 x 67, respectively) ... first time to have both accounts on a new area at the same time, so still getting used to a "divide and conquer" strategy
storm pendant
hope i got this right. i don't use X but i'm taking @heavy laurel's thumbs up reactions as validation that those are correct
i think the values are close enough that we could update this in #infographics ? what does everyone else think
there is already a disclaimer down the bottom that values may be slightly lower than shown (since it only shows the upper value)
undone void
Good job! Thanks for your sacrifice
topaz matrix
@storm pendant snowdrop has GG numbers on the latest table currently
weak linden
Is this the first time that we don't need Master 1 rank for 8 spawns
Why though?
guys anyone this
it should be a bug right
rigid basin
it should be a bug right
i would assume not, but i wouldn't call it easy
even with 2 high level raichus and 2/4 scones extra tasty so far im on track to hit the threshold for 8 pokemon by thursday night
imagine how rough it is for the people who barely hit the sleep style requirement for the island 
rigid basin
even with 2 high level raichus and 2/4 scones extra tasty so far im on track to ...
oh and that's with good camp as well
radiant wren
it should be a bug right
It's not about rank, it's about drowsy power.
Lapis only needs 68m to get 8 spawns. Power Plant needs 97m. That's a huge jump.
weak linden
It's not about rank, it's about drowsy power.
Lapis only needs 68m to get 8 sp...
I am sure it was tied to rank at least for 8 spawns
radiant wren
I am sure it was tied to rank at least for 8 spawns
Nope, only drowsy power matters.
weak linden
Nope, only drowsy power matters.
sad
heavy laurel
I am sure it was tied to rank at least for 8 spawns
There was a pattern that seemed to be linked to rank up until Lapis; that's when it seemed to start to trend down ranks (or perhaps the ranks were trending upwards beyond the planned DP thresholds) -- so PP is just a continuation of that trend
as an aside, it cracks me up a little that the OGPP missions are just labeled "Old Power Plant 1" etc (OPP), so eventually they may get to the shorthand of Power Plant (PP) like I've been calling it on my sheets
heavy laurel
Aiming for the 3-4 gap (90,961 x 66) and the 4-5 gap (143,282 x 100) ... nite 😴
undone void
I’m going to try 3-4 spawn as well, around 6,000,000. Hopefully I can get it 🤞
undone void
It works! 
storm pendant
just updated the command with this version and we can update it again when there's more progress
-monranges
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undone void
Going to try ~14,347,000 to see if that's for 5 spawn, wish me luck 
heavy laurel
I'll do a small nap to try to hit the two ends of the 3-4 spawn gap too: shooting for 6,038,907 & 6,021,180
heavy laurel
6,021,180
Overslept on my first nap target, but at least the "low" nap hit the higher spawn side.
unique dirge
undone void
Accidentally pick one more berry, just a small improvement
5 mons 14,350,575
(and none of them are new mons! 
nocturne hatch
Im at 490k with 2.5h left. Might be able to reduce the 6-7 threshold
heavy laurel
Im at 490k with 2.5h left. Might be able to reduce the 6-7 threshold
498,863 to 499,188 strength with 100 sleep to fall within the 6-7 threshold, FYI (499,026 would be right smack in the middle of that gap too)
nocturne hatch
yea im definitely gonna manage, great
i just have to be careful with ampharos procs lol
heavy laurel
I use the PGP on one of my phones, so have to use dinner meal to reach my goal (and force the strength to sync), and it feels strange to hope to not crit
nocturne hatch
yea lmao
i had it happen once that it crits on a fuckin 10%
we have no educated guesss btw right on whether the limit is more close to 49.89m or 49.92m
heavy laurel
6,012,320
heavy laurel
we have no educated guesss btw right on whether the limit is more close to 49.89...
Not as far as I know 
nocturne hatch
yea i checked, it's not the taupe-8 threshold cuz that's 43m
i'll just aim for like the upper 75% so that i at least am more likely to get that 7th spawn
heavy laurel
When I only had one acct to test with, I would usually aim for the 50% mark or the 75% mark (to err on the side of more spawns) -- now that I can test with 2 accts, I aim for 33% and 66%, so I'm likely to reduce the range to 33% (if all goes as planned)
nocturne hatch
oooo smart
heavy laurel
75% is a good compromise, since if you hit high, you only reduced the range by 25%, but you gained an extra spawn -- and if it hits low, you get the fewer spawns, but you reduced the range by 75% now 🙂
heavy laurel
14,339,412
nocturne hatch
75% is a good compromise, since if you hit high, you only reduced the range by 2...
yep exactly
nailed it
499,107
244 above the min
81 below the max
dont tap gengardont tap gengardont tap gengardont tap gengardont tap gengardont tap gengar
session started
so FYI if someone aims for the 6-7 threshold, might wanna hold off until tomorrow or otherwise sit below 499,107
heavy laurel
Look forward to hearing from you after <t:1728536220> (<t:1728536220:R>)
nocturne hatch
will let you know and tagging myself so that i see a red 1️⃣ tomorrow @nocturne hatch
#infographics message 
especially love the google sheets frame
heavy laurel
I've seen the sheet that's from; I'm fairly certain he gets the data from RaenonX, which seems to be updating based on reports fairly quickly too.
undone void
6 mons for 49,897,197
a cutie from other server make this by "mistake" 
#1145237114708049990 message
heavy laurel
Aiming for 30,491,776 over night 💤
nocturne hatch
That's a 75% reduction of that range!
heavy laurel
Aiming for 30,491,776 over night 💤
Hmm. Somehow my tracked sleep strength was 2562 higher than I expected. Maybe missed some sneaky snacking, or a charge strength skill triggered that I didn’t see. 🤔
heavy laurel
Aiming for 49,915,200 on a full sleep (<t:1728650700:R>). Nite 💤
undone void
Aiming for 49,915,200 on a full sleep (<t:1728650700:R>). Nite 💤
I misread your finishing time
Oh never mind, waiting for your good news 
heavy laurel
Oh never mind, waiting for your good news <:eeveesparkle:1134070933762625536>
App crashed after 3 hours, so missed the mark and now team is exhausted too
undone void
I was supposed to try 49,913,000, but my milk CRIT!!
undone void
I’m aiming 49,915,500 now, going to do 2hr nap for it 🤞
undone void
7 mons
nocturne hatch
I'll manage to test the 6-7 mon threshold tonight
I did a 42 nap, so I can do 58 score guaranteed
I'm at 840,814 rn
what are the most accurate ranges? (only sleeping in 2hr so no rush)
i have a meal to make so i can easily get up to 20k
undone void
I did a 42 nap, so I can do 58 score guaranteed
I'm at 840,814 rn
what are the...
Maybe try around 49,913,000 ?
That could be 860,570 * 58 = 49,913,060
undone void
i have a meal to make so i can easily get up to 20k
Be careful the meal crit, I failed couple times this week
nocturne hatch
yea if the 10% hits i'm just gonna (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
nocturne hatch
Maybe try around 49,913,000 ?
That could be 860,570 * 58 = 49,913,060
sure sounds good, thx :3
just gonna chance the meal crit. i dont have the patience to try with the exact correct berries LOL
is there a good meal calculator these days? the one i used to use from mathcord is no longer updated. is the one on raenonx good?
undone void
I crit at 20% today, for a 3k milk
nocturne hatch
I crit at 20% today, for a 3k milk <:gastlul:1134070936405024860>
that's enough bad luck for the day
thanks for taking one for the team 🫡
undone void
is there a good meal calculator these days? the one i used to use from mathcord ...
I use my own sheet for meal calculation. It’s similar to the former one, I can share to you if you need. But I have to make it in English version
Maybe @heavy laurel has one as well?
heavy laurel
is there a good meal calculator these days? the one i used to use from mathcord ...
This is what I use. I just updated it recently for the coffee recipes https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dQvuSgzsQDbx5QBYy6DWazGN8lOU5WLX-IAGqpVXFjw/edit
I think the one I copied it from isn’t shared anymore, but I’ve been sorta keeping it updated
heavy laurel
I did a 42 nap, so I can do 58 score guaranteed
I'm at 840,814 rn
what are the...
You should be able to hit that 6-7 gap with a 58 score if you keep your strength between: 860,544 - 860,612 (range of 67, midpoint is 860,578)
heavy laurel
Aiming for 14,345,000 with my phone that needed the recovery nap from last night; should be done <t:1728685920:R>
nocturne hatch
This is what I use. I just updated it recently for the coffee recipes https://do...
thank you, lemme try
nocturne hatch
You should be able to hit that 6-7 gap with a 58 score if you keep your strength...
thx for this, gonna do another 25/75
that'll give me 49,914,510
HOW DID I JUST RANDOMLY GAIN 1 SNORLAX STRENGTH
i think it synced or something lmao. this might be why one of yall suddenly had a slight mismatch in the score
i remember seeing it the other day
heavy laurel
so ... with 5% Area Bonus, most of my Grepa berries we're giving an odd number gain (e.g. +95), when it should always give an even number since it's a doubled favorite berry. If you go to the Pokemon menu then come back, it usually refreshes the Snorlax Strength
So in reality, they were giving +96, but only showing +95 when eaten, for example.
I've just made it a habit to refresh the strength by hitting the Pokemon menu before I do any calculations based on strength
(Maybe someday they'll fix the bug, and I'll just keep doing this out of habit, not knowing it's not necessary anymore.)
nocturne hatch
so ... with 5% Area Bonus, most of my Grepa berries we're giving an odd number g...
probably it was that then, i definitely picked up some grepa berries
interesting bug lol
well i hope i did everything correctly
no crit
correct value
49,914,510 in about .. 10 hours
heavy laurel
interesting bug lol
It's basically the difference between:
- berry * bonus, rounded up, then doubled (correct); vs
- berry * bonus * doubled, then rounded up (what is shown when eaten)
nocturne hatch
right, love to see integer math with floor() and ceil()
that gave so many headaches in the first months i remember good to see it still does, never change SB
grim violet
-monranges
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nocturne hatch
This is what I use. I just updated it recently for the coffee recipes https://do...
thanks again, worked a charm ❣️
heavy laurel
-monranges
FYI, here's the latest data for the new area (in text form):
OGPP spawn range (min - max) :
3 mons: 0 - 6,003,426
4 mons: 6,012,320 - 14,339,412
5 mons: 14,350,575 - 30,491,700
6 mons: 30,491,900 - 49,911,500
7 mons: 49,915,500 - 97,324,200
8 mons: 97,395,900
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storm pendant
heavy laurel
5 mons, 14,345,000
undone void
8 mons, 97,373,648
nocturne hatch
Another 75% reduction!
heavy laurel
Aiming for 14,343,740 with a 20 power nap (<t:1728779400:R>)
heavy laurel
Shooting for 97,348,900, the midpoint of 7-8, with a full sleep. Nite 💤
radiant wren
heavy laurel
The 5 & 8 mon thresholds have [nearly] the same uncertainly gap now
heavy laurel
Main acct overshot with a Sunday meal crit, but alt is on target for hitting 97,371,500 on a full sleep. Nite 💤
heavy laurel
Only 7 mons, 97,371,500
undone void
Going to try 49,914,995 for 6-7, will get the result in 8hrs 
heavy laurel
525k strength on Monday night is impressive 
See ya in a bit (<t:1728967200:R>)
undone void
Thanks for dedenne, 3 crits in a row 
undone void
525k strength on Monday night is impressive <:WooperD:1275698190129041468> See y...
how to do that timestamp ?
nocturne hatch
how to do that timestamp ?
google discord timestamp generator
heavy laurel
That works too. I usually google for "epoch converter", since the number you put there is a Unix epoch timestamp (seconds since 1/1/70 00:00 UTC); <t:1728967200:R> == <t:1728967200:R> ... the R makes it a relative time, but there are other letters to control the output too; but it always shows that exact moment in time based on the viewers current timezone, which can be handy.
undone void
49,914,995 only 6
shell blade
That works too. I usually google for "epoch converter", since the number you put...
my favorite is the website "Current Millis" or https://currentmillis.com/
heavy laurel
my favorite is the website "Current Millis" or https://currentmillis.com/
It’s supposed to just be in seconds though, not milliseconds 🤔
shell blade
It’s supposed to just be in seconds though, not milliseconds 🤔
Oh whoops i missed that, i'm used to working with millisecond epoch timestamps. I generally like using that site for working with them/converting them.
heavy laurel
Shooting for 14,340,857 and 14,342,292 with naps, should be done around <t:1729122300:R>
uh oh, i think i forgot about the 1.5 multiplier today ... crap
K, I was able to abort one before the 90 min mark, but the other one (14,342,292) was already a multiple of 1.5, so it's just gonna finish an hour sooner <t:1729116900:R>
heavy laurel
Second napper restarted targetting 14,340,847; should finish around the same time as I originally planned. 💤 ... (I guess if the first napper makes that target obsolete, I should have time to abort this second nap again too.)
heavy laurel
New upper for 5 mons, 14,342,292
undone void
I totally forgot that 1.5 multiplier, it messed up my plan
heavy laurel
Even lower 5 mons; 14,340,847
heavy laurel
Should be able to hit another range with my remaining sleep on one acct; aiming for 49,915,242 to split the 6-7 gap. Will update sometime after <t:1729166400> (<t:1729166400:R>)
heavy laurel
Only 6 mons, 49,915,242
heavy laurel
Using the 2x DP bonus to reach the 7-8 gap, and try to hit it high and low with two full sleeps: 97,372,200 & 97,373,000 ... brb in 9-ish hours
heavy laurel
New min 8; 97,372,200
heavy laurel
Aiming for 97,371,946 on an almost full sleep, if I don't mess up. Nite
heavy laurel
Almost; 97,372,200 should be for 8 spawns (instead of 7). 97,371,500 was the largest seen DP for 7 spawns. (So 699 uncertainty on the 7-8 gap.)
next masonBOT
nocturne hatch
thanks <@503678058067394614>
im surprised the low DP ranges have the largest uncertainty
tepid flax
if i have to make a guess no one has been willing to sacrifice it during event week to encounter the new mons 
nocturne hatch
hm yea i guess that makes sense lol
heavy laurel
if i have to make a guess no one has been willing to sacrifice it during event w...
And when you get to a big enough sleep, you really can’t hit a low enough sleep power to reach that range (unless you do a partial big sleep first so the remainder is small enough)
e.g. I'm at 1,003,833 power rn, so I would need a sleep score of 5 to hit the 3-4 gap, but since you can't easily hit scores under 18 (since the minimum nap time is 90 minutes to count as a valid session), I would need to do a 95 score "nap" first, then the second sleep can use the remaining 5 points no matter how long it actually sleeps.
heavy laurel
Aiming for 97,371,801 on an almost full sleep again, if I don't mess up and oversleep. Nite. 💤
(My other acct went a little higher than I intended, but still within the current range, so might get lucky and still split it: 97,371,898)
heavy laurel
97,371,801; eight spawns
heavy laurel
Arrg; was gonna try to hit the 3-4 gap with a nap after cooking lunch, but got a meal crit on both accts. :/
When I try to cook a big meal, no crit, but when I cook a tiny Simple Chowder, then the game gives me the crit
nocturne hatch
typical
i'm so close to the 6-7 mon range on pp but i'm not quite reaching it
literally like 7k off at 11pm
just need 1 damn ampharos proc
okay bruh i'm like 2.5k off
i might wait a bit more...
49,915,242 - 49,915,500
499,153 - 499,154
oh how tf am i gonna get there without meals nvm
i genuinely dont know how yall do it but too much effort i'm sorry
heavy laurel
I usually have trouble tracking sleep from the phone on Android during maintenance, so probably best that I didn't try too hard to hit a certain number tonight.
heavy laurel
Bah, maintenance is tomorrow night, not tonight 🤦♂️
heavy laurel
Aiming for 6,007,868 with a 17 score nap; hope it works. 🤞
17 score is tricky, because I'm counting on the "5 mins to fall asleep" subtracted from my total 90 min sleep (minimum) ... and I noticed one time this week that I somehow got a "0 minutes to fall asleep" one night and I have no idea what I did differently.
(i.e. 1:25 to 1:29 will come out to a 17 score, and the minimum total sleep length to count as a valid session is 1:30, so the "5 mins to fall asleep" becomes important.)
heavy laurel
Aiming for 49,915,400 on a full night sleep. Hopefully maintenance doesn’t bork with my plans. 💤
heavy laurel
49,915,400 — only 6 spawns
heavy laurel
14,340,360; 5 spawns
heavy laurel
Even lower 5 spawns; 14,339,910
heavy laurel
Back on PP this week 
heavy laurel
Napping until <t:1730831820> to shoot for PP 3-4 range: 6,010,838 & 6,009,350
heavy laurel
This should be accurate/updated so far:
storm pendant
hi @mellow bridge would you mind updated the -monranges command with this new version?
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heavy laurel
Aiming to further split the PP5-6 range with 30,491,702 & 30,491,720 -- should be done <t:1731031020:R>
heavy laurel
30,491,702 — 5 mons
heavy laurel
30,491,720 - 6 mons
nocturne hatch
i might be able to aim for the 7-8 threshold tonight
973,716 or 973,717
950k so far with 1-2 hours and dinner left easy enough
nocturne hatch
shit i have 10min left until bedtime
gonna try to calc th emeal
no crit, perfect
testing 97,371,700 in 9-10 hours
nocturne hatch
Pp
heavy laurel
Shooting for 14,339,592 & 14,339,724 with a nap that should end after <t:1731626400:R>
heavy laurel
14,339,592 - 4 mons
heavy laurel
Higher number for 4 spawns: 14,339,724
heavy laurel
Tonight is the start of GSD, so don't forget to account for the x1.5 DP multiplier if you're trying to hit a certain threshold. 🙂
heavy laurel
6,010,340 — 4 mons
heavy laurel
Aiming for 14,339,775 & 14,339,856; should be done around <t:1732234860:R>
grim violet
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heavy laurel
Forgot to share this last night — 14,339,775 and 5 spawns
heavy laurel
Shooting for 97,371,580 overnight
heavy laurel
97,371,580 -- only 7 spawns
heavy laurel
I took a break from power plant this week to go hunting for Sneasel at snowdrop. Might be back to PP after the start of the year (depending if events push us elsewhere)
astral cloud
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storm pendant
thanks for your hard work as always @heavy laurel . could you please check if i have captured the changes correctly?
heavy laurel
thanks for your hard work as always <@503678058067394614> . could you please che...
Looks good to me 
shell blade
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heavy laurel
Looks like we might need to verify numbers again for Greengrass Isle EX (expert mode) to see if they're new thresholds or use the same as GG
storm pendant
Let's hope you don't need 200M for 8 spawns
rigid basin
Let's hope you don't need 200M for 8 spawns
might be something insane like that considering there's a perma shiny boost attached to it
dim kite
I expect that they keep the Rank req equal. So for 8 spawns you need 2 mil Strength + 100% sleep score.
Spicy
rigid basin
that's 13k strength right
radiant wren
that's 13k strength right
Was only like 40 something score.
But definitely not the same numbers as regular Greengrass. 
rigid basin
But definitely not the same numbers as regular Greengrass. <:vapocry:11408441270...
yeah this is gonna be brutal
makes sense tho since they're offering perma shiny boost
storm pendant
that's 13k strength right
Not sure but the DP already confirms it's going to be different from normal GG.
hollow quail
GGEX
jovial isle
GGEX
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GGEX
Ooh nice. This is less than Great 3 so it seems it could be a little easier than other areas relative to the strength ranks.
hollow quail
GGEX 10,760,310 x4
hollow quail
GGEX 7,294,950 x4
storm pendant
limpid parcel
saw ppl getting 8 mon with 100m drowsy power
grim violet
Ggex 7 mons
jovial isle
GGEX
storm pendant
GGDX 49,068,900 x6
Okay I think this confirms that at least the 7 mon threshold is the same as OGPP or very similar.
GGEX 7 mon threshold is 49,068,901 - 50,004,200
OGPP 7 mon threshold is 49,915,500
rigid basin
GGEX 6
hollow quail
GGEX x6 ref raenonx en
hollow quail
GGEX x6 31,881,900 (lowest for now)
GGEX x5 28,073,850 (highest for now)
GGEX x7 65,817,250 (highest for now)
storm pendant
GGEX x6 31,881,900 (lowest for now)
Thanks for sharing
6 mon minimum is between 28,073,850-31,881,900
OGPP is 30,491,900
Seems likely that all thresholds are same as OGPP
storm pendant
limpid parcel
seems like the spawn close to ogpp?
storm pendant
seems like the spawn close to ogpp?
I think it's the same
limpid parcel
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mellow bridge
tepid flax
storm pendant
I think it's fairly safe to assume GGEX has the same numbers as OGPP.
I will stop keeping track of the numbers for GGEX unless there are any reports which don't align with OGPP numbers.
mellow bridge
Nitoyon's tweet kinda go against some of the ogpp numbers. Unless the monranges command has old data
jovial isle
GGEX
limpid parcel
7mons
lone orchid
5 mons
hollow quail
I think it's the same
I think the mons range for OGPP and GGEX is the same too.
I’ll try asking on X whether there are any spawns with a different threshold from OGPP.
glass wharf
5
grim violet
limpid parcel
ppl collected from chinese community
storm pendant
ppl collected from chinese community
The lower bound for 4 spawns seems unusual. The rest are consistent with OGPP.
A screenshot of the spawns in the 4M range would be helpful to confirm if there is a difference
radiant wren
The lower bound for 4 spawns seems unusual. The rest are consistent with OGPP.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's wrong.
That's upper bound of 3 that I know, which means 4 has to be greater than that.
lone orchid
heavy laurel
GGEX, 6 mons, 49,656,192
hollow quail
GGEX, 7mons, 96,979,700
outer igloo
lol, the eh
97M is still within OGPP 7 Mon, right…? I came to post 7 Mon too, with 93.5m
storm pendant
97M is still within OGPP 7 Mon, right…? I came to post 7 Mon too, with 93.5m
Yes. 8 mons is 97.4M
heavy laurel
GGEX, only 5 mons, 30,491,680
heavy laurel
Here's latest GGEX numbers reported here, along with the previous OGPP numbers for reference:
hollow quail
GGEX, 8mons, 97,371,750 (lower bound)
heavy laurel
GGEX, only 4 mons, 14,339,724
heavy laurel
GGEX, 6 mons, 30,491,720
lone orchid
Is it now the same range than OGPP or just barely?
radiant wren
Is it now the same range than OGPP or just barely?
Looks the same to me, honestly.
heavy laurel
Still within OGPP, but some of the numbers represent an improvement to the OGPP uncertainty ranges as well
heavy laurel
heavy laurel
GGEX, only 6 spawns, 49,915,440
heavy laurel
GGEX, only 3 spawns, 6,009,997
heavy laurel
GGEX, only 3 spawns, 6,010,228
astral cloud
GGEX, 5 mons. 30,198,600
heavy laurel
GGEX, 4 spawns, 6,010,340 (matches OGPP now)
heavy laurel
That's probably as good as it'll get for a while with narrow uncertainty ranges. Further improvements are likely only possible from targeted attempts at hitting numbers in the uncertainty range. (Or if there is consensus that the OGPP numbers are exactly the same for GGEX and the uncertainty thresholds should be shared.)
Here's a new Mobile graphic too (based on current numbers)
radiant wren
That's probably as good as it'll get for a while with narrow uncertainty ranges....
RaenonX peeps have concluded that Power Plant and Greengrass expert are most likely the same and have combined their ranges, FWIW.
I'll be really interested to see what Amber Canyon looks like. I'm guessing these are just the max ranges they'll use for every island from now on.
heavy laurel
I can understand combining the data points, but I can also respect if there’s value in sticking with proven numbers too
storm pendant
I think it's safe enough to combine them as well.
storm pendant
Here's a new Mobile graphic too (based on current numbers)
I was also wondering if there's a better way to display the minimum Snorlax rank required for each DP threshold. For 8 spawns the strength rank is G5 but it's 95% of the way to U1.
Any ideas on how we could display that better, or is it not something that people find very useful anyway?
heavy laurel
I was also wondering if there's a better way to display the minimum Snorlax rank...
I suppose if we’re combining OGPP/GGEX, then we could just put both those names in the header
As far as usefulness, I think people do reference the minimum ranges quite regularly according to a quick search. It tells them what Rating is the earliest they could reach a certain number of spawns
storm pendant
As far as usefulness, I think people do reference the minimum ranges quite regul...
I was referring to the minimum Snorlax rank feature (in the brackets after the DP).
That's what changes between OGPP and GGEX so it can't be easily combined.
But if it's not useful we could remove it.
outer igloo
As far as usefulness, I think people do reference the minimum ranges quite regul...
hey look, it’s me
I’d like to say it’s a very useful command/infographic table. Enough that we made a meme command when people typo it (-momranges)
I see people use it quite often. Though especially because it’s a chat command, if GGEX/OGPP have the same ranges right now, it might be more visually compact to just merge their categories in the table until we get another island with different ranges?
nocturne hatch
Here's a new Mobile graphic too (based on current numbers)
i guess it would be best to combine pp and ggx and to update the command
mortal aurora
@heavy laurel I modified your graphic to better layout expert mode with each island https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129232076261052548/1410253153726890116/Monrange.png?ex=68b05819&is=68af0699&hm=d0590bb661ee1eb98eb38f93b95f34eef776b6d8cc17a07688ce8e64314ecdaa& is it ok for this to be used as the - monrange command graphic?
storm pendant
Should we vote on whether to combine OGPP/GGEX or show them separately?
🟣 Combine OGPP/GGEX
🔵 Show seperately
storm pendant
Here's a new Mobile graphic too (based on current numbers)
I like this the most for what it's worth. Good layout for mobile.
dim kite
Having it separate is future-proofing it for further EX islands
storm pendant
Looks like we have a clear preference.
@heavy laurel do you like this layout #1134842457469759499 message or the one you did already? I'm fine with either.
We can ask someone to update the -monranges command with whichever one you prefer.
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heavy laurel
Sorry, been busy with work, so took me a bit to mock up a combined view:
A little more mobile-friendly, still. The other one is a great layout if/when we get more EX islands, but there's no guarantee when that will happen, and it's just dead space until then.
BTW, I was just using a copy of pulsilver's initial spreadsheet with the tabs for the tables, tweaked it to fit the new data, but I am by no means committed to one version or another.
heavy laurel
I went ahead and updated the non-Mobile format sheet to use the extra rows for EX islands like in this one (rather than continuing to grow towards the right) #1134842457469759499 message
nocturne hatch
Sorry, been busy with work, so took me a bit to mock up a combined view:
imo this might be better to have for the time being
than the current one
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outer igloo
Sorry, been busy with work, so took me a bit to mock up a combined view:
I also like this 
I wonder if it would be helpful to color the rank texts for ogpp/EX?
actually nvm it might make it harder to see cus of the colors
nocturne hatch
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tepid flax
bump
half lotus
2.5x gsd bonus when the area released on thursday
radiant wren
I'm still guessing it's going to match power plant and expert mode. In fact, I think every new island that's as strong as power plant will match these. I think these are their max numbers.
tepid flax
the devs are kind
limpid parcel
storm pendant
If we're expecting OGPP numbers you were 3 sleep points short of 7 spawns
heavy laurel
AC, 5 spawns, 14,339,850
heavy laurel
AC, 4 spawns, 9,199,950
storm pendant
AC, 5 spawns, 14,339,850
So it's looking like it's much the same as OGPP then is that right?
heavy laurel
So far, yeah. Its still pretty early, but it seems likely
mortal aurora
AC, 4 spawns, 9,199,950
Why does he have a cactus above his head??
heavy laurel
I add that to screenshots from my alt so I can remember which area it came from 😂
limpid parcel
nocturne hatch
New info?
storm pendant
From raen
nocturne hatch
i can probably sit between 5-6 on my nap
limpid parcel
seems like align with ogpp and ggex?
heavy laurel
AC, only 4 spawns, 14,332,955 (still within OGPP range)
slender jungle
I know Chinese community already narrowed it further, but wanted to share a low 8 score
hollow quail
I’ve told the Japanese community that it’s “same as OGPP,” and the value in Research Calc is set to be the same as OGPP. Since no one has raised any complaints, I’m pretty sure that’s correct.
heavy laurel
I’ve started merging my “best of” numbers from OGPP and GGEX together already, so I’ll probably go ahead and stick AC in there too
storm pendant
<@503678058067394614> I modified your graphic to better layout expert mode with ...
@mortal aurora do you want to update the -monranges graphic to show AC?
consensus seems to be it's the same as OGPP
storm pendant
Sorry, been busy with work, so took me a bit to mock up a combined view:
or maybe we could reconsider the combined format
storm pendant
here's my take on a combined graphic
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heavy laurel
I was originally gonna try to mock-up adding a third row;
Row 1: GG / CB / TH
Row 2: ST / LL / (blank)
Row 3: Combined OGPP/AC/GGEX
Since taller than wider tends to be more mobile friendly.
But both of those versions work fine too.
mortal aurora
I was originally gonna try to mock-up adding a third row;
Row 1: GG / CB / TH
R...
Have you considered that mobile people can just turn their phones 90 degrees but computer people can’t turn their monitors 90 degrees? 
mortal aurora
<@1169274928655249429> do you want to update the -monranges graphic to show AC?
I do not