share your pokemon! rating

[ripe shuttle]

Uh skill chance up or help speed up would be the best ye. No idea if ingredient finder would be best or not but he does like it too cause of the hi rolls. Probably want help speed up exp down if we can pick cause I like the help speed with the high ingredients and berry finders tbh. Dunno though. Either top tier

I'm sad that it's all milk ingredient BUT you rolled average on level 30 and above average on level 60 so we take it. Help speed, ingredient finder, help speed, inventory, ingredient finder. There is NO skill chance ups here which I think means you go jolteon. Flareon and espeon rely harder on their skills but jolteon can make due with this since it just has high base frequency and capacity. it'll basically just be a really good suplementing milk bot that gathers really faster. I'll give it like B+ or A- tier. It's a pretty good jolteon despite the presence of skill chance and better than average I would say. You could do better but you could do worse. Jolteon is a pretty nutty pokemon in general so probably worth but really depends on the quality of your other stuff

ummmmm i kinda like him even though no tails. Nature is fine (honestly might even be slightly good tbh). Cacao is still really valuable even if it isn't slowpoke tails and you rolled average caccao into maximum amount of tomatoes. Your skill list is awesome in inventory, berry finder, help speed, more inventory, and then a capstone in ingredient finder. The inventory ups will do wonders to hold all the berries at level 25 and the caccao/tomatoes you get from level 30 and 60. He'll be hella filler and kinda bad until level 25, but then level 25 and 30 he will spike super hard and be a great pokemon 🙂 I guess I'd rate it like S- for no tails but honestly the best kit possible or close too it and a neutral to very slightly positive nature.

Changed rating to S- instead of A+ i really can't justify being lower than S tier of some kind considering how nutty the subskill list is with inventory/berry finding and highroll on ingredients outside of slowpoke tails.

[tribal swallow]

Does Helping Speed S cancel out the speed of help decrease from her nature?

[crude crystal]

Earlier in the game I thought my starter Pikachu was good but maybe its now as good as what I thought then, so now that we know more about the game I want to know what do you think about it.

[ripe shuttle]

Btw @turbid pivot (sorry for second ping) slowking is strictly better than slowbro by some tiny amounts.

[obsidian vortex]

helping S is 7% and the nature down is 10 I think so no

[ripe shuttle]

What are the ingreidients?

[tribal swallow]

Rip

[ripe shuttle]

Also what erayto said. It like basically cancels out but you're technically still slightly below average

The jigglypuff is kinda filler it has a bad skill list/nature and just a barely above average ingredient pool

[obsidian vortex]

if you use a sub skill seed help S would go to help M at 14%, but the Mon isn't worth it

[ripe shuttle]

And wiggly line is weird in general

[hazy cliff]

hi panders

[tribal swallow]

I think all of my pokes are filler tbh

[ripe shuttle]

Well "bad" skill list it's all whites and a wasted skill trigger slot

It is just not worth the seed invest imo

[hazy cliff]

docile nature
what are your thoughts

[ripe shuttle]

You use it if you want though

[ripe shuttle]

I forget what docile is, Up/down what?

[ripe shuttle]

I'll do this first too

[hazy cliff]

no stat modifiers

[tribal swallow]

That's sturdy isn't it?

[ripe shuttle]

Oh they didn't get back to me on ingredients

[hazy cliff]

docile serious bashful i dont remember what other natures are neutral

[tribal swallow]

I swear docile brings speed of help down

Imma find it rq

[tribal swallow]

ohh

I may be misremembering

oh, my Pikachu is "Hardy" and his no up/downs

[ebon bay]

we need to make a handy nature up/down/neutral cheat sheet

[tribal swallow]

not sturdy

[ripe shuttle]

Double tail is awesome on the poke but low roll on amounts. Help speed good, skill trigger bad, inventory good, help speed M great, ingredient good.

Pros:
Got the tails.
Got the help speed we desperately want in bro kits.
At least we don't have a negative nature
Cons:
We don't have a postive nature
One dead skill and it's also at level 25
A lot of white skills which isn't super desireably it means you need a lot of seeds.

I'm gonna say it's somewhere around B+ or A- for my ranking it has a lot of good and some slight bad it's better than random pokes. Could be better too.

Actually I noticed a pattern of 1/2 for I think every slowpoke i've seen as far as tails are concerned. I wonder if it has a smaller range

[hazy cliff]

i see ty

[tribal swallow]

all my pokemon are on deaths door cus it's 7am and I haven't slept 💀

they all have awful natures anyway

[hazy cliff]

let em die let em die let em die

[ebon bay]

tbh that would make sense bc its literally the tail of the slowpoke coming off

[hazy cliff]

is ditto an ingredient specialist? imagine if u get one with slowpoke tail

[tribal swallow]

with the skills, is S rank better or worse than M rank?

oh wait

[hazy cliff]

S means small

[tribal swallow]

Small, Medium, Large?

ah

[hazy cliff]

M means medium

[ripe shuttle]

yes

Epan shared this earlier today and it's kinda insane imo 2 best ingredients in decent amounts and still gets oil which is solid as well

[hazy cliff]

wooo

[crude crystal]

I think I still want to evolve it and to get that lvl 25 skill anyway

[crude crystal]

Omg, I thought Slowpoke family were the only mons that can give tails. It makes sense that Ditto can but being also an ingredient specialist that is awesome. Better than Slowbro/king? Or they are still better?

[ripe shuttle]

Average ingredients, apple 30 meh, egg 60 good

Ingreident finding we like. Bonus exp we REALLY like top tier skill. Skill level up is fine not really good or bad but you got medium so we happy it's upgraded. More ingredient, more inventory.

I think if you can get it to level 25 you're holding onto this boy forever. Helping global bonus is a top tier skill you're never sad to use and you will use it every grepa week forever. Idk about letter grade some kind of A i guess. You basically are using it for helping bonus. Skills are kinda decent but nothing wow but we're happy you basically don't need any skill seeds and you have a global so you keep and you use and you happy

[ripe shuttle]

We don't know much about ditto but like.... an optimal ditto probably better tbh lmao. It likely can have the ENTIRE ingredient list is my guess though so good luck

Lottery pokemon smh

[crude crystal]

That was why I was wanting to raise it. Just for the Exp bonus but still can give me some berries, ingredients that I want and it increases its skill level too. I like it because it can help in different ways, but its not the best in anything. And even if the ingredients are average, the speed will help to get enough I think

[tribal swallow]

Tried to find an actually good pokemon and I think this is the closest

Should be a great berry finder

[sharp wyvern]

ingredient rolls are meh but still good maybe? (nature is ⬆️energy recovery, ⬇️exp gains)

[still thunder]

look what i got today 😄

[ripe shuttle]

Super average ingredient list. Not a bummer though hitting average.

We like help speed, ingredient finder fine, skill trigger kinda dead, sleep exp bonus is goated but late, another skill trigger a bit weird.

I think at exactly level 10 it is S+ tier cause of nature/help speed.

Level 25/30 it probably drops to like A.
50-100 might as well be a big fat ? to me. Maybe the energy matters with skill trigger maybe not idk and the global is late but maybe we love exp bonus late still and level 60 ingredient is dead on average. This thing is hard carries by nature and level 10. Honestly maybe sub skill seed up the level 10 skill when you get there even lmao. Idk how to rate it but it starts strong and the kinda just peters out into averageness over the course of progression but is never bad cause bis nature

[ripe shuttle]

mind showing me the ingredients?

[tribal swallow]

Woah. So he should be good to keep around until late game. Ty

[still thunder]

sure

[ripe shuttle]

The amounts are SLIGHTLY below average but we love caccao it's squirtles best ingredient and a lot better than milk so we take this really nicely.

Nature is practically nonexistent/slightly bad technically. We really like inventory into ingredient finder for when you hit level 30 so you can start milking that caccao. Really goated ingredient finder for that early/midgame spike so we enjoy. Skill level up M is super nice. When it is a blastoise it will have ingredient finder 5 before a single main skill seed which will be 17 ingredients a go when the skill triggers. Aweswome sauce. Ingredient finder again which we love and research exp bonus is either a super nice level 100 or super dead but idk if we care either way lmao it's level 100. I'm gonna give this around an A+ S- Goated kit and really only missing a help speed skill somewhere and a bis nature. Bonus points I think it only needs 2 subskill seeds and 1 main skill seed to be considered maxed upgraded which is on the lowest end of the spectrum for sure.

[ripe shuttle]

Nice 🙂

[ripe shuttle]

So Fiery herb is top notch. I think flaafy's best ingredient and you hit average level 30 and above average level 60 rolls on quantity. One of the best natures, Help speed M at level 10 is awesome for this early grind. WE like the double skill level ups and the inventory up L and M are quite cozy with ampharos's high frequency and just storing an absolute gout of fiery herbs during your big sleep. Really really good ampharos so S or S+ probably. I think the only ways to improve it are to make the skill level up S or inventory M a skill trigger and to gather 3/5 instead of 2/4 herbs but those are like the most minute nitpicks

And I guess nature could be down energy instead of down exp technically being better (down exp affects global research exp tmk not the pokemons exp gains). But again that's a really tiny minuscule nitpick. Your mons practically perfect with the most maxed out skill levels possible and good list lmao

[still thunder]

thank you 😄

[ocean hull]

Oh wtf just when I thought I figured it out 💀

[ripe shuttle]

I also want to note that I think slowpoke tails (at least on slowpoke) might have a lower range of like 1-2 and 2-3? It's very muddy but scroll through this chats screenshots and look at slowpoke tails. There isn't a single good roll. Could be luck but I call hax

[ocean hull]

I saw Ditto's yeah, didn't wanna think about it yet lol

[ripe shuttle]

Absol is the ONLY exception we've ever seen and it's just a guess on slowpoke but there might be like 1 stage ingredient buffs or something lmao

[ionic grove]

That's a really deep analysis! Thanks very much!!

[ocean hull]

@ripe shuttle updated the pin on counts. With that Ditto I'm making the assumption that ingredient mons just have a larger range than originally suspected. We need more examples to confirm if it's affected by Slowpoke Tail

[ripe shuttle]

ty ty

ACTUALLY WAIT

ditto is single stage

has 3 tails

Slowpoke isn't single stage. We've only seen 1-2 tails in here. The mystery thickens. We need a ditto army

[plush badge]

Absolutely confused about these 2

Meowth really wants to be a berry finder

[ocean hull]

And I say let it. Having that skill lv10 is OP, the rest of the skills and nature complement nicely. S tier mon for sure

[plush badge]

REALLY?

That weirdo is an s tier?

[ocean hull]

Mareep is a trickier case though. You have the skill up sub skills which you want to see, but all the ingredient stuff is wasted slots

[plush badge]

Yeah, that's what I thought

[ocean hull]

As far as Meowths go absolutely. It stands out beyond that too bc the normal type berry specialists are kinda average

And dream shard magnet can be quite useful, gives you an easier time raising mons

[turbid pivot]

Nah haha feel free to ping ur giving heavens advice, thanks so much

This seems p good

[plush badge]

Have you seen the berry finding sub skill on a pokemon with the regular X2 berry find yet? @ocean hull

[ocean hull]

Quite a few yeah

[plush badge]

And let me guess it also made them S tier?

[ocean hull]

Unless the other skills and nature hold it back, even then it's still ranked highly

[obsidian vortex]

the only one I got, what do you think of him ?

[ripe shuttle]

So middle of the road level 30 ingredients and lowest roll on ingredient amount at 60 but caccao is best ingredient at least.

Bis nature help speed pog. Level 10 bonus sleep is nutty for leveling your team fast. Level 25 berry finding is dumb. Ingredient finder is awesome, help speed is awesome (need a subskill seed) and inventory up is super late but we need it with this much help speed+berry finder

Your igglybuff is the nuts

I prefer this to skill trigger wigglytuff lmao

[ocean hull]

Yeah that's the way to go for late game Wiggly

[ripe shuttle]

Just for level 10-25 it is SSS+ tier for a wigglytuff. I think it ends the game around S- because of the slightly bad ingredient rolls but because of caccao we aren't too upset. Could be better ingredients

[ocean hull]

Also ingredient finder hampers the berry gathering a tad

[ripe shuttle]

Yes but ingredients are still better than 2x berries

even if berry finder goat

[plush badge]

You take it with the bad

[ripe shuttle]

I am more worried about capacity let me check wigglytuff

[ocean hull]

You'll get +10 on top of the base stats so it's prolly fine

[ripe shuttle]

Wiggly has 13 capacity so even after fully evolving this thing will sit at like 23

It will be hurting for that inventory up at level 100 for a bit lmao

Like from level 50-100 it will be pushing that inventory cap. That said I'd rather it push the cap then not

[ocean hull]

I don't think I ever looked at a mon here and said "damn, if only it had more inventory" 😅

[ripe shuttle]

I've started to do that

Once i saw like 5x/8x high rolls and stuff, being able to hold a lot is actually so helpful i am thinking

High levels gather faster too

like I think capacity might bottleneck some good mons LATEGAME

[obsidian vortex]

in two weeks red will say "screw berry finders, ingredients capacity is the best"

[plush badge]

New meta let's gooo

[ripe shuttle]

If i do you can hate me. Even if that were true it would be comparing S to S tier idc

[plush badge]

[ripe shuttle]

Think about it though. At level 60 if you can gather 4, 5, or 8 ingredients a pop? And we gather probably a lot faster than we do now with our stinky level 1 babies?

Capacity has to have some kind of benefits for mons with low caps at least

Like low cap ingredient mons like absol

[turbid pivot]

So this iggly should probably invested throughout for the level 100 skill for capacity you reckon? Does the skill seed improve thay capacity skill too since it's only small I think rather than medium/large

[obsidian vortex]

I agree since day 1 that capa is good so idc also

[ocean hull]

I see the point for ingredients, but anything else is whatevs

[ripe shuttle]

Like 14 capacity. Let's just say you have an average of like 5 ingredients which is pretty modest for an ingredient specialist. That is 2 ingredient procs and 4 berry procs and you're full

There's a lot of mons with like sub 20 capacity and I think even for berry specialists if they aren't hitting around 25+ capacity naturally there is a chance we will need capacity at like level 60+

As like an additional thing to ADD onto god tier rolls. It wouldn't make a god tier pokemon good by itself. Bad pokemon that can hold more is barely better

But a good pokemon that can hold more? That kinda could be nuts

Of course late game theory so don't mind it too much but ye 😋

[obsidian vortex]

the only way ingre capa + isn't great is if you play h24

[ripe shuttle]

h24?

[obsidian vortex]

24h out of 24 sry

said it in french lol

[ripe shuttle]

OH

[plush badge]

How do we feel about a specialist that wants to spam its main skill over anything else?

[obsidian vortex]

btw ⬆️

[ripe shuttle]

Yah you're kinda right. Thing is when you sleep you start collecting and likely will hit caps if it's any decent sleep still. It's better to have capacity even if overflow goes to snorlax cause favored berry/more ingredient room to collect them

[ripe shuttle]

You hit max rolls on ingredient amounts. We like honeys to be able to make dishes but prefer caccao probably cause higher pot value. We take max ingredient amounts though 100%.
Sleep exp bonus makes this an intensely good investment right now where we are at in the game. Skill trigger fine, inventory up x2 with the max ingredient high rolls (we just talked about this) and a capstone of helping hand. Nature is sligthly positive since it increases research rank exp and energy down whatever so we take it. Slightly above neutral nature.

I think S-. Great start to the game giving you global exp to your party members each and slightly nice that you get extra research exp through nature. Most good mons we are using are dumping exp so this patches that ironically a little.
The two inventory ups are a bit awkward TOGETHER you would have been happy with just the one but like we won't complain cause you hit max ingredient rolls. You're usually going to be collecting 2 berries, 3 honies, or 5 honies lategame a pop so i think they're fine.

Only ways I would improve would be a help speed nature and skill level up/inventory S being swapped to other stuff (they are good though just minor). You still have a lot of good things going for this though

[ripe shuttle]

Average level 30 ingredient and slightly above average 60. Triple fiery herb though is probably best flaffy ingredient option.

We love the skill chance up nature followed by skill level up S. I'm a fan. Down nature is fine whatever. Level 25/50 is really reals so I love. Even have the Skill trigger S.

I think I rate S. Could have have a better thing than ingredient down even if it's not a big nitpick and slightly better ingredient amounts although still above average. Very good ampharos I like her lots.

Ampharos gets a LOT of benefits from evolving so I suggest doing asap

Frequency gets big upgrades and capacity is nice to help with that frequency on top leveling up the charge strength M so evolving it as you are able too is important

I think it's like decent now, when it hits flaafy it will start to be like "wow this is nice" and then when it hits ampharos it will demolish and be a demon.

[obsidian vortex]

thx I'll try adding him to the team for sleeps then

[ripe shuttle]

Needs level 10 but ye. It's about just over half a candies worth of exp a night per mon. Do that for a week and like you just fed all your pokemon 3-4 candies for free

[plush badge]

Didn't expect it to be a potential monster but you keep on surprising me with your overviews. Thanks

[ripe shuttle]

If you find another dream exp mon to pair it with you will start actually seeing really hard results

ye ye. See for yourself though

One of the really fast frequencies in the game and you will have charge strength M level 4 when you evolve it at level 23

You can get ampharos at 23 lmao

[plush badge]

Holy shit

[ripe shuttle]

Probably not a bad main skill/sub skill seed candidate without looking at your other mons but idk

It only needs 1 sub skill seed at 75 so you can consider that then, but main skill seeds?

I say slam them imo

welll

ermmmmm tough that means the skill level up M at 100 is weird but who gives af about that tbh

If you can get this to 3290 power or 4546 power at level 5 and 6i n the next month or two this will blow up island days

[obsidian vortex]

does it gives 100 + 14 for one Mon with it
and 100 + 14 + 14 for 2 Mons
or (100+14) *1,14 when you have 2 ?
so 128 or 129,96

[plush badge]

At least it's not an exp bonus subskill at lvl 100

[ripe shuttle]

Imo i think you slam the skills but if something something level 100 hurts your soul do you

It needs 2 if you do

which is achievable

Over 4K trigger a pop like actually is a really solid meal for comparison

SOrry i've gone on long enough

[plush badge]

Yeah go to sleep

Time for gaming

[ripe shuttle]

I will note that charge strength skills SCALE with your island bonus. If you have 10% greengrass 10% better charge strength main skill number

I go bed too now byeeeeeee

[obsidian vortex]

night !

mon incoming

[terse agate]

Should I switch out my Togepi? Not sure if the double skill trigger will offset the -main skill chance

[obsidian vortex]

called it

Hold the line, the technician is sleeping right now

[ripe shuttle]

Skill trigger M will offset main skill chance and put you a little positive and skill trigger S helps too

[plush badge]

GO TO SLEEP

[ripe shuttle]

Idk without looking hard at both which I would prefer. I Think I like the idea of helping speed, skill trigger, into capacity way more for healthy progression though

Skill trigger skill trigger on a metronome mon that also has skill chance down for your early levels sounds painful

[obsidian vortex]

go play*

[ripe shuttle]

Lot of "sorta" do nothing

Too tired for proper rating but left better just cause progression. It flows way smoother right doesn't work well really as a mon compared to left if we are looking at say level 10 kit, 25 kit, 50, kit, etc.

night night

@terse agate

[terse agate]

Oohh yeah I was thinking it'd be a lot less painful progression-wise 😅

thank u thank u, goodnight!!

[ripe shuttle]

Save yourself the trouble go left xD

[vale nest]

Is this Pokémon worth leveling and evoing ?

[ripe shuttle]

Show ingredients as well. Won't be able to tackle this but I will when I wake up. My assumption though is almost certainly probably. Looks great but lmao level 100.

[obsidian vortex]

sleep XP lvl 100 is amazing

[vale nest]

oil x2, lvl30 5x sausage, lvl60 7x oil

also if a pokemon nature has -speed of help it's not really worth investing right

[obsidian vortex]

well it's a big downgrade, it can be even up with a sub skills help speed M or if the rest is godlike

[vale nest]

hmm

i have pretty good metapod but it wasnt evolved from caterpie so it doesnt have the evo stats unfortunately

actually maybe not cos the ingredients are all honey

[obsidian vortex]

at least you're sure you'll get honey

[ripe shuttle]

wrote a guide yesterday. Down help speed is bad but like if you have some good skills like global help bonus or berry finder you're gonna probably want to use it anyways. Help Speed M also puts you technically positive on help speed after the nature so if that is in the kit (at one of the early levels) you could consider the rest of it before chucking it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1klboAkPhl4MitUL7c2od8CROkomjT6Ar9Rjw-2lrZwE/edit?usp=sharing

[ripe shuttle]

I have it pinned in main chat too but i think second one here good

[tepid furnace]

[obsidian vortex]

rly nice guide, great work

[smoky crescent]

Are any of these good?

[grave dragon]

Well I took a ‘nap’ and caught these 3. Thoughts? @obsidian vortex @ripe shuttle

Squirtel looks alright I think?

[ripe shuttle]

I am busy but 👍 squirtle is milk man

above average and definitely probs good or something

[ripe shuttle]

I won't be able to get to any of these for awhile but this should help hopefully

[grave dragon]

Aight thanks!

[obsidian vortex]

I don't like iggly's kit

squirtle looks good, lvl 25 solve nature prb, lot of 🥛

[ripe shuttle]

🐢 🥛

[obsidian vortex]

bonsly is mid, 1 invent up is good but 2 right at start ? ... :/

[hallow steeple]

Thanks for taking the time to put a doc together

[obsidian vortex]

better to explain to people how to do it themself than take them by the hand one by one 10000 times

[ripe shuttle]

I can't rate everyones pokemon on the server all the time but I'll gladly look at weird cases

I need be busy though

big work work

[obsidian vortex]

(we're still happy to help tho)

[white fog]

How's this Eevee? I don't love main skill down, but don't know how bad it is

[ripe shuttle]

You slam level 10 and never look back and keep it forever

It's good imo idk what eeveelution I'd have to think but it's good

[white fog]

Oh nice! Does helping bonus stack? I have another eevee with helping bonus at 10, might be good to use both for a favorite berry week

[ripe shuttle]

I believe they do. Not certain but they really should.

Worth testing but I don't have the kit to do it yet

If they don't though, you could make them different eeveelutions like 1 flareon 1 glaceon to support different berry weeks. If they do stack you could do something crazy like double of the same eeveelution to say crush electric, fire, or ice weeks

[left walrus]

How’s this guy?

[ripe shuttle]

Check pins I made a guide to help evaluate your mons. I'm crashing rn (like for reals). It looks really good at a glance though to me and 100% use him

Slightly scuffed but has important things you want/need for progression so I think it's solid and long term material probs*

[stray maple]

looking at things now, maybe i should start focusing on just leveling mons instead of keeping up with my igrediants

[ripe shuttle]

Generally I look at it as like
Ingredients => berries > exp but could be wrong for that lol

I think I have to metagage cause cyan but if I was on greengrass I could totally see just spiking day 1/2 and then focusing on exp for main squad after

[stray maple]

well i mean in a sense of like, i was going for like ingrediant tickets but maybe i should just buy out the candys

do you need water type sin yoru team for cyan beach or sometghing

[ripe shuttle]

Cyan Beach always asks for oran, pecha, and pamtre. So water/fairy/flying

And squirtle/totadile/doduo are all pretty goated 1-2 squirtle being ingredient boys and others berrying you up

I know deebs is running 3 totodile, a dodrio, and a squirtle to really good effect.

[stray maple]

ah good to know cause i wanna go there enxt week for a few weeks

[ashen idol]

Wish that second sub skill was helping speed, but honestly I kinda like this as a late day/sleep ingredient gatherer with that huge carry limit and exp gains+

[hallow steeple]

I know you asked about how often my Slowbro activated his main, it’s currently 2:08pm here and he’s done it 3 times so far today. Will be interesting to see it happens anymore times

[twin sigil]

How's this geodude?

[low karma]

Have a lot of helping speed. But does this work on other mons, or this just for Ekans?

[vale nest]

this mon only has 1 gold skill incomparison to other's with actually viable gold skills

is this still worth the levels?

[gray violet]

Ingredient finder M on ingredients mon tho

👀

[vale nest]

yeah so assuming helping speed is universally good on everyone as well as inventory up being neutral

i haven ingredient up on ingredient mon

plus a research bonus which could be worse for a gold skill

im assuming this is viable

[tawny grotto]

Looks good?

[vale nest]

hell yeah sleep bonus and berry finding is 100% good

skill level up and trigger contributes to ingredient magnet according to pandas doc

helping speed is universally good

nature is not relevant in this case

[sick marlin]

My starter pikachu

[vale nest]

nature is a bit iffy

energy recovery bonus so far seems to be a waste of a slot

[sick marlin]

Yeah I'm disappointed with nature. I don't usually get great recovery on sleep tho

[vale nest]

oh if you are havin issues with energy recovery then it's literally perfect for you

ive never run into energy issues

so i find it pointless

[sick marlin]

My first shiny

[crude crystal]

Neutral nature is not bad and the ingredients are not bad either. But omg the subskill. Helping Bonus and Berry Finder are two of the best subskills and it does have both and one of them already at lvl 10 and the other at 50 is not bad. The other subskills are not the big thing but can help too. Anyway Easy S for me just for having both these subskills, it could be better but then it would be SS or SSS

Maybe its S- because it could have a better nature but worth to keep and raise

And save candies for evolving it, it will be worth and its better to use candies for evolving than for leveling first

Ah and the best thing is that its shiny so you got really lucky with it

[sick marlin]

Thanks for your input! I was hoping it was good to use. Helping Bonus seems awesome. Are shinies guaranteed to have decent skills?

[crude crystal]

No

[grand gust]

I’m really liking the Manley with two best gold subskills… tho the nature could be hurting, a lot

[molten vault]

What eeveelution do i want?

This little guy is basically a berry specialist. What's the hardest berry type to get? Ice? Dark?

Maybe espeon?

[ocean hull]

Out of the eeveelutions, Espeon

[molten vault]

Is this one worth investing in? Berry specilist is great, but thw ingredients are mid

[ashen idol]

I have one similar to this. My plan is to grab the berry finding S sub skill and evolving in to Espeon just so I can have a x2 mago berry gatherer if I need it one week. I won't invest much after that though, but your second sub skill is better than what I have so it might be worth it if you really need a Mago berry gatherer

Mine for reference

[hasty lake]

I just got this cutie this morning and wonder if any good

[molten vault]

I also notice that eevee's have crazy high RP, for whatever reason

[fallen orchid]

Ooooohhh I think I got a good one!

I think?

[sick marlin]

Low helping bonus is nice

[icy basalt]

Am I delusional or is this super decent

[molten vault]

yes

to the super decent part

ingredient finding + cacao is good enough on it's own

[tribal swallow]

Low berry finding and helping speed nice

[molten vault]

is 25 that low? i feel like we're all still 2 months away from level 25 LUL

[undone flower]

super late but thank you so much!!!

[tribal swallow]

I swear I've seen people already getting close to that lol

[icy basalt]

Yeah I used like 10 of the candies on it as soon as I caught it but it gave me like barely a level

Takes so long

[tribal swallow]

Meanwhile none of mine are above level 10

[icy basalt]

Me either

My old team was so garbage before I found this discord lmao

[tribal swallow]

I'll post what I caught this morning, I think it's decent

[ashen idol]

My starting pikachu has high RP for some reason. How is RP calculated?

[icy basalt]

Ooh that’s nice

[ashen idol]

Sleep EXP bonus at lv10 is so nice

[icy basalt]

Too bad about the berry finding at 100 though

Gonna take a while for that one

[tribal swallow]

Months...

[icy basalt]

All 3 of the mons I caught this morning had -speed of help so

[tribal swallow]

RP is an arbitrary number that only seems to give a vague idea of how developed/good they are, wouldn't put too much stock in it

[celest lava]

S tier slakoth

Level 10 asap

[tribal swallow]

😳

[ashen idol]

Yeah some of my “seemingly better” Pokémon have lower RP, so that makes sense. Just wondering how they calculate it, but I guess it doesn’t matter much

[celest lava]

The bonus is insane check out my daily diary here #1135459507959496802

For more info about it

Berry specialist with that level 10 is staple regardless of snorlax fav berries of the week

Not even counting the main skill which is op on its own especially with a 3 stage Evo line

[fallen orchid]

With sleep exp?

What does it even do?

[ashen idol]

It gives more exp to your helper Pokémon after sleeping, so they level faster

[molten vault]

14 more exp every night on a full rest

+14%

for helper pokemon

[fallen orchid]

Hmm interesting

[molten vault]

equlivilent of a free candy + dream shards every 2 nights

[fallen orchid]

My caterpie has that at level50 💀

[icy basalt]

Worth the candy to evolve?

[fallen orchid]

Wait Pokémon passively gain exp?

[molten vault]

yeah

[fallen orchid]

I thought it was just though candy

[molten vault]

every sleep they gain xp equal to your sleep score

[fallen orchid]

Welp

Ohhhhh

Sweet

Should I get to level 5 and evolve, or get to level 10 asap?
Also, rating?

[tribal swallow]

How do I do this fast? 😭

It's gonna take forever

[hasty lake]

👀 looking for input

[ashen idol]

really only two options, handy candy for more candies, or sleeping with them in your team. No way to sped it up afaik

[ashen idol]

I’m not a huge fan of the random skill, nothing wrong with it I just like the consistency of the normal charge ones. Nature is neutral. Ingredients are decent though, but as a berry gatherer it doesn’t matter too much. As for sub skills, Helping Speed is always good especially for berry gatherers but the double inventory up and double skill modifiers are meh. If Snorlax needs Leppas then definitely not a bad pick, but I’d search for one with better sub skills and possibly a + nature to speed of help

[hasty lake]

Thank you for your input 💓

[icy basalt]

Am I better off with the caterpie or the metapod here

[celest lava]

It's a better butterfree at level 8 than a caterpie at level 10

[fallen orchid]

Even with the helping bonus?

[celest lava]

Put on the when you're going to sleep and use shards and candies

The shard and candies you'll use to help level him up will be paid back for free xp to the other 4 members of your team. Plus that slakoth should never leave your team

[celest lava]

I have what in one of mons as a level 10 and unlocked it but the decrease doesn't seem to apply to the frequency of each members

Maybe it's working in the background like the good camp set

Still you'll need to level 10 a butterfree anyways as it's too good. Follow here #1135459507959496802 to see what I mean

[tribal swallow]

On the what?

[celest lava]

Team

[tribal swallow]

I managed to get it to level 8 and halfway to level 9

But then ran out of candies

[celest lava]

Slakoth should be in your team

All the time

Gathers 2x berries and will provide XP when sleeping

[tribal swallow]

That's so good

[celest lava]

Exactly the amount you'll use to level 10 is roughly the same amount to evolve I. I'll try to compare it next time I evolve a butterfree

[tribal swallow]

I spent 39 slakoth candies after using all the handy candies

[celest lava]

For better comparison

[tribal swallow]

And it went 2 to 8

[celest lava]

I think some Pokemons have different XP needs like the main game series

[tribal swallow]

Are there handy candies in the shop?

Imma look

Really want to get level 10

[icy basalt]

There is 1 in the premium for 500

[celest lava]

I normally say no against buying it but since XP boost is so good early game. It's justifiable

[icy basalt]

I mean it’s no more a waste than buying a great ball and rolling a -speed of help nature

[celest lava]

The faster you get the better think like the exp share on the main game series

[icy basalt]

You’ve been preaching that skill and it’s funny to me cause people were saying to skip that day 1

[celest lava]

Idk you'd prefer a faster caterpie with trigger skills on 10 or 25 and not gathering ingredients

I say pass and try to get a better one

Pass on both

[icy basalt]

Oh is that caterpies gimmick? Since you can evolve them so early for the skill boost you just use them as skill bots?

That makes sense I just never thought about it

[celest lava]

Who did here?

[icy basalt]

Not here, on the subreddit very early on

I think there was some confusion that it wasnt actually leveling your pokemon but leveling something else

[celest lava]

I haven't seen that comment and I was here since July 22

[icy basalt]

idk I remember reading from someone I should lay off it cause it was only boosting like your sleep research rank and not your pokemon

[celest lava]

Look here #1135459507959496802 I have 2 mons with that as level 10 so pretty much 28 extra XP for all 5 members per night IF if get 100

[icy basalt]

Oh no I absolutely believe you, you actually have your evidence to back it up

[celest lava]

I'll even provide a better screenshot next time

[tribal swallow]

I spent all my sleep points and now he's level 9 with 6 EXP to go ☹️

I think I can get some more tho

[icy basalt]

Its just the typically early game confusion you find in any game like this

[fallen orchid]

I already checked it out and it’s too much for me to follow, but thanks

My dudes out here pushing this thread like a door to door salesman haha

I respect it but also it’s funny

[icy basalt]

I get it though

[celest lava]

No worries it's for my benefits as well plus the berry team can. Be played passively and only log in for snorlax meal times

[fallen orchid]

Ye ye

[icy basalt]

If you do theorycrafting it’s only worth the effort if people actually see it

[fallen orchid]

100%

But still funny to see

Like just visually

[celest lava]

Yeah thats why I made that thread as a f2p player as well

[fallen orchid]

For sure for sure, no shade here

[celest lava]

Guide for new and existing players

I don't even think this app is a sleep tracker app at all

[icy basalt]

My damn squirtle has a skill chance up nature and has not had his skill proc in 2 entire days

[celest lava]

It's just disguised as one

[icy basalt]

This is some sick joke

[fallen orchid]

🙏🏻

[tribal swallow]

🥺

finally

[fallen orchid]

Poor guy is lonely can you give him a hug plz

[tribal swallow]

my squirtle and totodile don't have skill chance up, and proc it loads

weird

[icy basalt]

This dudes about to get a one way trip to the prof I’m so over it

[tribal swallow]

he'll deserve a hug after carrying my team for the next few months

[icy basalt]

I benched my eevee in hopes that this thing would actually generate me some ingredients but i wouldve been better off just getting them manually and not praying on this skill

[grizzled copper]

Can someone rate my pichu

[icy basalt]

nature is very meh

ingredient finder with apple isn't huge

Id probably keep my eyes out for a different one

[tribal swallow]

It's ok. Nothing hurting it, just mediocre

[ancient sundial]

What are the good natures considered to be?

[icy basalt]

help speed up is generally best

exp and energy down are generally not hurtful

you can get away with alot of others depending on the mon

like for example if that pichu has ingredient down its not a huge deal cause apples are the worst ingredient anyway

pokemon you want the main skill to trigger often with want main skill up etc

[ancient sundial]

Cool, thanks

[icy basalt]

I think the general idea of what makes a pokemon "good" is that were looking to build a one trick pony here

Like for example with this diglett

its got a lot of okay things going for it

like main skill up and a skill trigger at 75

and then it has two early helping bonus

ingredient finder at 100 with leaks at 30

but it doing everything okay means its just mediocre

as opposed to something like a charmander with main skill up and then main skill increases at level 10 would be considered amazing

[ancient sundial]

I see

[undone flower]

quick q, why do we like pikachu having ingredient finder if it's a berry specialist? doesn't that have antisynergy with berry finding

[icy basalt]

i assume its cause they rolled ginger and eggs and get a lot of inventory space so they might as well be grabbing some

idk what pikachu's pool of ingredients is but anything is better than apples

[mossy beacon]

Worth putting in my team for the sleep exp/dream shards? Feels kinda rough losing out a spot on a preferred berry mon though

[icy basalt]

answer is probably yes, but not for the dream shards, rather that sleep exp bonus

[molten vault]

is dream shard magnet ever good? seems kind of weak tbh

[icy basalt]

I don't think were getting limited by dream shards yet

[molten vault]

even if we were

[icy basalt]

i could see it happening in the future but rn playing around that isnt worth imo

sleep exp is huge tho

at lvl 10

[molten vault]

we get a huge windfall of dream shards for 3 and 4 star sleep research photos. so increases to SS indrectly give us dream shards anyways

[celest lava]

I'll show you my biggest mistake leveling up a gulpin with the extra shard for level 10 subs skill but that account is on my other phone just wait

[icy basalt]

how crazy do we think that main skill seed in the shop is?

that must buy every month?

[ancient sundial]

So would it be worth investing in a Lvl 10 Sleep EXP even if the rest of the ‘mon seems kinda eh?

[icy basalt]

thats a decent ingredient tho too

[celest lava]

It's a x2 berry specialist so it's good

Especially if fav of the week

[icy basalt]

5th best ingredient

[ancient sundial]

Where’s the ingredient tier list?

[hushed lagoon]

Hey guys, not sure if I should keep raising this Riolu since ingredients seem to be super important in this game, but yeah just wanted to know what you all think. Appreciate it!

[molten vault]

that is pretty impressive

i wonder tho, how realistic is it to ever get a pokemon to level 100?

[tribal swallow]

It's hard to know

With exp gain as it is rn, it feels like it would take years

But I assume in the future we'll be getting more XP frequently so it won't seem as impossible

[molten vault]

do you think? currently pokemon xp dosn't scale with anything

without using candy, it's a flat 100 a day

[tribal swallow]

Seems to be great in general but not in any particular category. Plus I don't really like that skill.

[tribal swallow]

I'm thinking events etc

[celest lava]

They want us to buy that XP incense for more sales

[tribal swallow]

And higher starred sleep styles

[iron yoke]

you'd get 200 with incense?

[celest lava]

200xp per day 😂

[molten vault]

that's still pitiful

[icy basalt]

I'd be shocked if there werent community days that let you get a pokemon from 1-70 in one day down the line

[iron yoke]

i mean getting to 10 is hard as it is

[molten vault]

i would be shocked if that happened

[iron yoke]

i cant even imagine getting to 30

lol

[icy basalt]

its only so slow rn to keep interest

it'll speed up in a few months

[hushed lagoon]

Thanks for the input, yeah I agree, the main skill doesnt seem to proc often even with a boosting nature... 😦

[iron yoke]

we're capped anyways

[obsidian vortex]

you forget XP boost subskill

[mossy beacon]

Which should I put as the last member of my team w/ durin berry as a favourite for snorlax?

[molten vault]

getting to 10 isn't that bad, at this point i have enough ambient candy gain to instantly raise any mon to 10

[obsidian vortex]

+14%

14% / sleep exp bonus in the team so if there is 2 that makes 100 + 14 + 14 / pokemon

ect

[molten vault]

that's pretty narrow

[tribal swallow]

I just levelled my slakoth to level 10 and it took everything I had lol

[iron yoke]

yeah

i dont think candies are exactly the problem rn, dream shards are kinda lacking too

[molten vault]

that makes sense, i don't think i've even seen anyone catch a slakoth yet, i think i have no candy

[dusk saddle]

The problem is that the base is very low, even with a 2x it would be max 200 exp per night ahahah

[iron yoke]

and you have to keep in mind that your team is supposed to rotate every week if you get different berries

[tribal swallow]

I don't think dream shards are a limiting currency yet

[obsidian vortex]

@dusk saddle yeah true it's low

[molten vault]

candy is 100% my bottleneck. i need 6 more hard candy to evolve my totodile

[obsidian vortex]

they should boost XP when you go up on islands

[iron yoke]

yeah soon enough they will

im kinda scared

:')

[obsidian vortex]

like island 2 is X2 / island 3 X3 ect

that would give a goal to people

[dusk saddle]

It would have sense

[tribal swallow]

Gives more incentive to move islands

[iron yoke]

even a weekend bonus for exp like we get for dishes would be cool

but no luck

[dusk saddle]

For now other islands seem a scam

[tribal swallow]

Rn I'm just staying on greengrass

[molten vault]

island 2 gives more candy atleast, (i think)

[iron yoke]

im spamming greengrass

if i dont get taupe hollow this week

i'll move onto cyan

[dusk saddle]

Me too ahahah

[iron yoke]

to get more sleep styles

:p

[obsidian vortex]

same, 3rd week in gg

[tribal swallow]

Did you see the stats on mine?

[molten vault]

i did

[tribal swallow]

Ah

[obsidian vortex]

I'll move in Cyan next week if bad berries

[iron yoke]

at least we know that cyan berries are always the same

right?

[tribal swallow]

Don't they recommend at least 2500 RP

[dusk saddle]

Moving to other islands change berries?

[molten vault]

i'm on my 2nd week of cyan, i just need 7 more sleep styles and i can go to Hollow

[tribal swallow]

Cus Snorlax takes more points to level up

[molten vault]

but i'm kind of powerleveling my cyan team

[obsidian vortex]

I'm doing an alt account to test it

so I'll know before the end of the week

[dusk saddle]

Interesting

[obsidian vortex]

and I'll also try going back

[dusk saddle]

What do you guys think of this pichu?

[obsidian vortex]

like berries in gg -> ticket to cyan bad berries -> ticket to gg (hope new berries than first gg)

[molten vault]

Cyan may be harder to level, but its berries are consistant, so you can build a specialist team. i assume the other 2 islands are the same

[dusk saddle]

Let me know what you find out

[obsidian vortex]

sure

[dusk saddle]

Ohh I didn’t know that

[tribal swallow]

Meh nature, skills are pretty good

[iron yoke]

kinda hyped to see taupe hollow

[tribal swallow]

What's the first ingredient?

[iron yoke]

apples

should be

[dusk saddle]

I could reconsider cyan now

[dusk saddle]

It is

[tribal swallow]

@dusk saddle

[dusk saddle]

Apple

[tribal swallow]

Ripp

[dusk saddle]

Yes, I would consider it more like a berry machine

[molten vault]

i'm using the exact same team as week 2, so i have 3400 team RP. it feels really nice

[tribal swallow]

C tier then imo

[iron yoke]

Apples should be always the first ingredient

[tribal swallow]

Not really worth future investment but isn't hurting itself either

[iron yoke]

for pichu line

right?

[tribal swallow]

Hmm

[iron yoke]

i think it was like the first slot is always the same

[dusk saddle]

It should

[dusk saddle]

Rip

[tribal swallow]

Either way they got double apple

[iron yoke]

oh

yeah

not worth it tbh

[ripe shuttle]

Think of it as "we want to run as many berry specialists that we can but still make us the dishes we need each week" and then it makes a lot of sense. Ingredients have a high value compared to berries. If you could run 5 pikachu and make say that Apple ginger tea dessert without any issues on a grepa favored week that should beat out like say adding a larvitar to get the neccesary ginger. We don't mind berries occasionally being ingredients more, it makes the process smoother. It's not like a large deal breaker either (usually).

You have to take it on a case by case basis like chiko has caccao that is neccesary for a lot of dishes and has a high base point value outside of that. We dislike pikachu apples for long term but if they gather in high quantities or we roll good egg/ginger amounts we will still happily take getting a bit more of those

We don't lose much if any value -> get some cooking pot consistency

[ornate jolt]

My new haunter

[ripe shuttle]

This looks like my haunter so S tier cause bias

Uh double mushrooms dumb high amounts of them help bonus level 10 dumb

Level 75 is only dead skill we take the nature it's in the positive for us

I'm gonna say S- because there are slightly better natures and that is a lot of white skills and you could have had better luck on those but you will need like 5 subskill seeds long term, but it's the goat top tier haunter something something use this

Laugh in value at level 30 as you demolish cooking

(Laugh in value now help bonus)

[ornate jolt]

thank you! Hoping next week he works for snolaxs fav berries to juice up the team

[dreamy plaza]

@ripe shuttle

Manifested my gastly haha

[mossy beacon]

Anyone know if there is a way to directly compare Pokémon like this? Is the frequency/berry value alone enough to compare?

[dreamy plaza]

We dont even know what frequency is yet

[iron yoke]

We kinda know it's faster gathering

right?

just not really the exact value

[willow vessel]

On my alt account

[dreamy plaza]

Damnnn

[mossy beacon]

Has anyone gotten a full gold skill mon yet?

[willow vessel]

Unsure but doubt full gold would be best, besides a nice collectible

Got these 2 today on my main account

[mossy beacon]

Berry finding 10

[ripe shuttle]

You know seeing these gastly back to back makes me curious

Is the mushroom amount always the same. I know we talked about ranges of ingredients a mon could have but what if same ingredient is always same amount

[austere bough]

Rate my Riolu and Geodude!

[ripe shuttle]

Like we think it's a range cause we see 4 caccao in one instance and 8 apple in another

But what if values always the same for ingredient by mon

Just different ingredients in different amounts at different levels

[ripe shuttle]

I like this boy btw. Still has the issue of all silvers but he gathers faster for himself only than a global gastly and mushrooms super high value ingredient in high amounts

[dreamy plaza]

Oh its fine haha i just wanted to show you i got the gastly i asked for last night
I saw you were on here

[ripe shuttle]

I'm going to scroll back in this channel when I have the time and do data gathering. Check every mon that is a duplicate on ingredient/level and see if I can find a pattern. It should be easy to find an exception if the amounts are ranged

[dreamy plaza]

Lol

[ripe shuttle]

And if they match always by species/level/ingredient we have our answer its a damning thing lmao

[ripe shuttle]

Just woke up but ye this is hype af. I pray you find shiny absol before you find a houndour

[woven tangle]

Are these subskills less trash than I think they are lmao

[dreamy plaza]

So much inventory up lol

[ashen idol]

huh didn't notice that ingr. focused mons have a higher quantity for the second and third ingr. Seems like the quantity might be just based on value each ingr gives

[woven tangle]

We out here holding stuff

[ripe shuttle]

This wynaut is like a goated collectible damn. Psychic is hard to get since it's like just espeon and wobbufet bad but you hit help speed/berry finder wobbufet lmao. S or S+ tier you're actually kinda sad no inventory up later in game but it's super whatever you giga high rolled that early game nonsense

Also that slowbro looking juicy af with help speed it's like crucial for the line. Kinda sad skill trigger 10 but every other hit from 25-100 is a hit

[woven tangle]

Maybe I should invest in Bonsly 🤔

[iron yoke]

what's up sleepers

[ripe shuttle]

Speed of help down nature riolu is not fun but berry finder is probably best skills you can get for lucario and rare af. You hit skill trigger which is nice for meta currency farming and an eventual help S to offset nature. Solid ingredients too I think this guy hard carried by berry finder. Still will perform so much better than any non berry finder riolu and you got it level 10 A+ or S- cause the nature hurts bad and a few white skills could be upgrades (you'll need more skill seeds) but is the goat. If we ever get mints, perfect target. We pray

And the berry finder geodude neutral nature though so even better damn. Rock is like just woodo and geodude rn and neither have 2x berries so incredibly valuable find so like S tier for that alone. .... S+ cause every skill is good with above average ingredient amounts? Nature could be better though but like this is a really damn nice find

[ripe shuttle]

What ingredients

We are cool with 10 and we should quite like 25/50 and we quite like the nature (one of best in slot natures)

And bonsly-> woodo is >>>>> to prefound woodo

[woven tangle]

Sudowoodo: x1 tomatoes, x2 tomatoes, x4 tomatoes (lmao)
Bonsly: x1 tomatoes, x2 soybeans, x2 mushrooms

[ripe shuttle]

Woodo really values the evolution bonus. It relies on main skill to be useful and it also has low capacity which evolving helps so much with

Let me compare mushrooms to tomatoes but yah second one is equivalent or better at least in ingredients

And kit

And nature

[woven tangle]

there's an evolution bonus?

[ripe shuttle]

Ye. +5 to your capacity and you level up the main skill by one. Especially relevant for like sudowoodo

[woven tangle]

holy crap lois

[iron yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-spin-horse-spin-video1-mov-gif-14777028

[woven tangle]

woodo is getting benched at the end of the night

[snow basin]

Bonsly pog

[mild belfry]

if i turn this into espeon, is it worth using sub/main seeds to get main skill lvl to 6? no skill trigger but nature complements berry s

[obsidian vortex]

caterpie evolved into metapod for the bonus example

[ripe shuttle]

Normally their stuck at a 10 limit which sucks but evolving gets them to 15 capacity for free and is like you invested a main skill seed

Woodo almost needs it to be good

Some stuff it's not a big deal like a mon with high capacity and a whatever skill like ttar/victreebell lines but still the capacity up is better than no capacity up.

[woven tangle]

i think catching evolved pokemon is great in the short term

[ripe shuttle]

This would also make a fire jolteon js.

I think you probably would invest the seeds yah. It's a good espeon and espeon loves its active a lot skill strength M has a really high values as you level it up. Like at level 6 you're a getting a really strong dish (for our stage of the game) worth of value and it scales with island bonus too (bet you didn't know strength charge did that :p )

[stray maple]

This looks kinda good I think

[ripe shuttle]

Idk 4K+ a pop on skill strength M if you max it is super nutty when you think about the berries probably getting you 200/500 value early/late game and this berry finders a rare berry type too

So you hit those numbers before you skill even procs

[mild belfry]

yeah i agree it would make a great jolteon also but i want to cover areas that berry specialists can't, didnt know about island bonus so thats nice too

[ripe shuttle]

Ye. Jolteon faces stiff competition from raichu and ampharos even though it's a nutty pokemon

And berry finder psychic is incredibly unique now and regardless it'll scale strong

[mild belfry]

does island bonus increase other skills too by % amounts or just the str based ones?

[stray maple]

do main and sub skills change when you evolve a pokemon

[iron yoke]

they dont

main skills does get +1 lvl

[ripe shuttle]

Egg mareep! Help speed M salvaged it immediately from being dumped so thank goodness. That nature is not nice though. You should be evolved to ampharos around 25 and the skill level up is solid.(go from strength M 3->4) so we dig. Everything else you get is relevant or good so like this is usable despite the God awful nature lmao

We need mints

[willow vessel]

I was kinda expecting a lower evaluation 😂

[ripe shuttle]

When I say evolved into ampharos by 25 I mean it.

It can evolve at 23 from flaffy into ampharos

[molten vault]

sold to us for the low low cost of 50$ worth of gems each, or 100 days worth of sleep points

[ripe shuttle]

Nature is worst it could be honestly but the skill list is really nice and compensates sorta so it ends somewhere very slightly above filler imo. Ampharos line is a good line so just slightly above filler is def a usable mon

[twin imp]

How we feeling about these

[ripe shuttle]

Just like look for better ones still haha. This can be like ampharos 3 though if you have 2 other ones and work just fine without issue

[fallen orchid]

Yay redpanders is back!
You the best, I have a mon question for you yet again 👀

[fallen orchid]

We should pay red at this point

For all these evals haha

[stray maple]

I should do a team of just mons that look like there good

[ashen idol]

is Jolteon really that great though? Maybe I'm missing something but it's a Skill speciality 4x help mon with a berry that can be covered by Raichu and as for the skills isn't Arcanine just better because of fiery herb/leppa berry? I suppose berry finder might make the difference up here by covering both the replacements into one pokemon.

[ripe shuttle]

We take help speed up global passive magnemite. Could have better globals or skill triggers somewhere but one of the bis natures carry it and we don't mind at all being basically a global support bot so it's in the upper end of magnemite but could be better. Lmao skill trigger bellsprout. I'll just say it this is probably about as filler as you can get the skills will do practically nothing and the ingredient finder down is bad for a mon with good ingredients like this so dislike. Maybe energy is goated when you overcharge but I have no idea lol. Really funky mon though that won't help you as good as a neutral bellsprout before level 50

[ripe shuttle]

S tier I barely need to glance at rest of kit lmao. Help bonus -> help M????? Nutty this will destroy. Rest skills really good too

[ripe shuttle]

Look at jolteons frequency and capacity

They're pretty insane.

[ashen idol]

oh I completely looked over that

[ripe shuttle]

And berry finder is really good value on growlithe/jolteon because if they hit themselves with their active you get a lot more bang for your buck so it's so good

Like X times help from a 2x berry mon is going to be around double of a 1x berry mon (outside of ingredient rolls)

So important if they hit themselves

[ashen idol]

yeah berry finder does make it a lot better. Hmm, honestly yeah this makes me rethink what I was going to do with mine lmao

[ripe shuttle]

Espeon is still a really good option I just immediately was like yay jolteon. It's like raichu with a lot better skill and little less capacity sorta.

(Raichu ties jolt for speed as fastest mon btw lmao)

[ashen idol]

I was going to go Espeon just for the x2 mago / charge strength since I don't have a good mago getherer

[ripe shuttle]

Espeon is a good call cause no good psychic berries rn and like you still want to maximize espeon value outside of main skill

And berry finder is likely needed for optimal esp too

[iron yoke]

I need me a good Eevee tbh

[ripe shuttle]

I don't think you can go wrong with either just pick the one you like more both will be goated af for their species and better than most other ones by a significant margin

[ashen idol]

right, I could maybe also see it used on Sylveon but we have a lot more fairy types than psychic

[ripe shuttle]

Psychic berries worth more than grepa sooooooo maybe you care about that idk do whatever lmao

[iron yoke]

Fairy types are weird. Hoping to see a berry specialist soon

[ripe shuttle]

Sylveon is ? because energy weird

[iron yoke]

yeah

Also togepi with metronome

[ripe shuttle]

You can make togepi, jiggly, or sylv with berry finder be great for fairy.

It's just espeon and wobbufet atm and espeon is >>>>> wobbufet if you can choose

[ashen idol]

yeah, on paper I thought Sylveon's skill sounds really nice. I'd more switch it in after lunch and hope to proc the skill to keep energy up until end of day

[ripe shuttle]

It could be good I just don't recommend cause energy impact is slightly unown for like if you overcharge it. 1-100% though like no meaningful difference

0 energy bad cause you gather like half speed or something it's molasses

Espeon and jolt are visibly consistent and stronger than most mons in general 🙂

[ashen idol]

so overcharging is a thing? Or does it just cap at 100?

[ripe shuttle]

You can get over 100% through skills

[iron yoke]

I think you can overcharge with skills

[ripe shuttle]

What this does is ????

[ashen idol]

oh yeah I agree with that, just weighing out the other options as well

[iron yoke]

Only thing I can think of energy skills are they may be usefull when swapping teams around

[ripe shuttle]

Flareon is fine but I think flareon is more desperate for skill trigger than espeon or jolteon since you pick flareon only for skill

Esp/jolt have better other data than flareon

For capacity/freq

[iron yoke]

still energy for everyone at max rank is 18 energy

[ashen idol]

I'll probaby go for Espeon just because I have a good Pika that can handle Grepas. I also just like Espeon more 😛

[iron yoke]

valid

[ashen idol]

do pokemon passively regain energy when not in the party? Or do they need sleep to regain energy? I swear I've had pokemon recover energy when not in my party after sleeping

[iron yoke]

they dont recover energy if they're not in the party

[icy basalt]

This worth evolving into anything or do I keep looking

[ripe shuttle]

Sorry I took so long. Quite the above average average psyduck we like the nature, skill trigger is fine on charge strength even if we like other stuff (being a trigger M is really helping) and then rest of the skills are goat. We like double ingredient finder/and an inventory for caccao farming psyduck has good caccao numbers for a not specialist. Capstone of help speed M is late but a million percent appreciates. You want help bonus global on your team to support this guy but it grows pretty well as a caccao farmer+charge strength battery we like. It's at least in the upper percentile for psyduck. Also needing only a single subskill seed for maxed skills is fire af. Weird togepi/10 BUT good nature and it's a super fun pick. Skill level up M means you will have level 5 metronome. One main skill seed and suddenly you have level 6 which.... random level 6 skills are still going to be fire as hell. Top it off with global, help speed, and berry finder? This is like S+ togepi material. We are content with ingredient list too ginger now and cacxao later very nice

[ripe shuttle]

Milk/caccao ingredient farmer. This is better than filler between nature and good ingredient finder rolls. We eventually get skill trigger, inventory, and help speed. Probably some kind of high B or even an A tier flareon I think with ingredient finding/inventory/skill trigger in the first couple slots it could be a good flareon. Finding extra ingredients on its own to fill up its pot skill is pretty fire. Can't really go wrong with any of them though but I think this ironically prefers flare

Mmmm solid A tier no B tier it has a good nature

On top of decent list

I need to go shower and do stuff byeeee y'all

[icy basalt]

Appreciate it!

[sick marlin]

All the inventory lol

[icy basalt]

Wake up to like 30 berries lmao

[ripe shuttle]

We do not mind inventory triple with berry finder and 5x tomato or 6x potato going into level 25/30/60 ironically so.... goofy but should work/be effective nature slightly sad but berry finder salvage hard af. Will be kinda meh till you actually hit 25

[icy basalt]

Toying with the idea of throwing this eevee on my team now in place of squirtle. Both have milk as first ingredient and squirtle has a +skill chance nature but it’s popped one time in two days

[ripe shuttle]

I've had mixed luck on skill chance nature

Skill trigger has been fire but skill nature has been like technically good but hard to feel always it's rng still

[icy basalt]

If someone told me it was bugged and actually decreased it I would fully believe them

[stray maple]

I havew a uh helping speed M (and nothing else good) dodrio that i could pair the psyduck with

[lost pawn]

Hi all, binned my starter Pikachu off a couple of days ago because of its nature but realising it might be okay now skill-wise? What do people think? Stick or bin?

[ripe shuttle]

If you can get the eevee to 10 easily I'd say try it

It sounds very interesting and I'd like to hear the results at least for howit feels versus squirt for milk gathering

Squirtle is a really good farmer at neutral

So interesting to hear how it compares

[icy basalt]

It would take me a day or two to get to 10 but I’m willing to throw it on for the time being cause it’s not like the squirtle is super high either

Here’s the squirtle for comparison

It’s not great by any means but I just needed milk for recipes so I was dealing with it

[ripe shuttle]

Level 10 puts you in the positive for frequency (+14% from help speed M, -10% for down help nature). Skill trigger is fine and then berry finder is the nuts so I'd say use it. Raichu line is really powerful as a species and you have one with berry finder. Also you rolled ginger/ginger which imo is best pikachu ingredients you can get at 30/60 even if eggs don't fall far behind. We just dislike apples at 30/60 ingredients

It's like an okay squirtle it's better than neutral nature and the inventory is fine even if it isn't exciting

[ripe shuttle]

For this

It's like just above average filler but squirtle is a really good mon so we take this

Idk how I compare it to eevee

But I would try it. You like the eevee long term and if it can replace squirt (or you run eevee+squirt for milk spam) we happy 🙂

[lost pawn]

Thanks for the rating, really good to know. Still getting my head round skills so much appreciated!

[icy basalt]

I’m gonna give eevee a chance be for the rest of today and tomorrow, see how it compares

I’ve been just getting by to not having enough ingredients running squirtle so we’ll see

[ripe shuttle]

Go for it

We tentatively are assuming skill specialists activate at about twice the frequency btw

[icy basalt]

Didn’t consider running both but honestly that’s probably the right play

[tribal swallow]

heya red

[ripe shuttle]

We dunno hard numbers but thats the assumption/feel so far

[ripe shuttle]

Especially on cyan could be nice cause oran speciality is wanted from squirt

And dishes help too

[icy basalt]

I want to keep my double chikorita and double ghastly though cause my snorlax wants those berries

[ripe shuttle]

Oh damn

I dunno I wouldn't run both thus week if it's favored chiko/gastly week

[icy basalt]

I’m still on first island, don’t intend on leaving it for a while to be honest

[ripe shuttle]

Those two have goated ingredients and if both are favored berries should >>>>> this eevee as of rn for sure

You should just eevee or squirtle and maybe try getting both to level 10 before end of week

[tribal swallow]

same

[icy basalt]

The ingredients are awesome for dish power but the problem is I’m not able to actually make a dish since my snorlax wants desserts

[tribal swallow]

I feel like I should have a much better team before switching

Slakoth is my only S tier mon atm

[crude crystal]

A lot of people think the same. Its better to stay on first island

[icy basalt]

10 by end of the week may be a stretch, I’m getting xp super slow

[ripe shuttle]

Whenever you make the jump to cyan, just know it always likes oran/pamtre/pecha or water/flying/fairy

[crude crystal]

This game is slow

[ripe shuttle]

So stockpiling totodiles/squirtles is helpful for cyan

And occasional birds

[icy basalt]

I have a chikorita that I want to get leveled and it’s priority 1 and then idk I’m just slowly building xp on whatever is helping snorlax the most week to week

[crude crystal]

How often do you get hungry pokemon?

[tribal swallow]

@ripe shuttle opinion?

[crude crystal]

Because I don’t always get them and some days I don’t get anything new

[tribal swallow]

imma pump literally all my resources into it

[icy basalt]

My water roster is super lacking aside from that squirtle so ill hold off for now, thanks for the heads up

[crude crystal]

My water roster its a Squirtle too but mine is bad

[icy basalt]

I have a Totodile but it’s very meh

But yeah, water rosters super weak atm

[tribal swallow]

about as mediocre as mine lol

still my pfp cus totodile is the cutest mf ever

[crude crystal]

Now your water roster is better than mine

[ripe shuttle]

Oh missed him sorry. Uh sleep exp bonus fire top 2 skills at level 10 and hard to get. Bis nature, some random globals and we have skill trigger for ingredient magnet so I think it's steller af. Even have help speed M late down the line and if you get it to level 100 then like....

It's goated

Ingredient list could probably have used something other than apples and I'd prefer something else to global energy (but still fine)

[tribal swallow]

red seal of approval

[ripe shuttle]

Those are like the nitpicks

[ripe shuttle]

It is above average filler you slam him for cyan and don't look back. Fairly positive nature and okay sub skill at 10. You ideally want like 3+ of these on cyan and the fact it's down exp instead of down something meaningful means you just slam him for the island

[tribal swallow]

he's a berry finding god so being meh at ingredients is fine

[ripe shuttle]

Its like above average filler all the way through to 100 but it's immediately helpful on the annoying island rn

[icy basalt]

I’ll hold onto him in the meantime but I think I have some actually decent stuff if I roll better berries on the first island so I’ll stick to that until I get another water type or two

Is there any reason to rush that island next week?

[ripe shuttle]

While it's not a deal breaker ingredient list still pretty nice to have for berry mons. They usually hit a chunk of them while going at mach10 to gather as many berries as they could. 4 apples is like a high amount even if bad food so it's not bad either just "could be better but we'll live it's not crazy important"

[tribal swallow]

I just need other ingredient mons to compensate

[ripe shuttle]

If you have totodile/squirtles and a bird you probably can handle the island. Perks of cyan are that a lot of mons don't have level 3 sleep style in greengrass and do in cyan so if you have like all the basic 1-2 styles for most if the cast it could be worth hopping over. It does have a smaller pool of mons though so greengrass diversity+ease of leveling up is still a goated and reasonable to stay. Really your call on jf you think you're ready for cyan or not.

[sick marlin]

Is the jigglypuff skill considered better than the wob skill?

[ripe shuttle]

Yah

[tribal swallow]

recommended RP before switching is around 2500 right?

as a general guide

[ripe shuttle]

Both are ? Cause energy is ? But wiggly is considered better for frequency/capacity/hitting team instead of 1 random mon

[icy basalt]

Guess I’ll keep my eye out for another squirtle and a bird this week and if I find it I’ll give it a try

[ripe shuttle]

I have less than 2500 rp and I'm doing pretty steller just being carried by totodile/squirtle/doduo/swablue and starter pikachu/ivysaur I caught

And my rp bounces between 2000-2300

I think if you have the favorite berry mons x4-x5 you're really set

Or x3 if you have other good stuff like say the ivysaur I caught as an ivysaur at level 9 or a random toxicroak etc.

[tribal swallow]

I have a squirtle and totodile but they're kinda meh

[ripe shuttle]

Meh is fine as long as they aren't like actively help speed down

[icy basalt]

RP doesn’t really tell you a whole lot it seems

[ripe shuttle]

Totodile/squirtle gives perfect ingredients for Salads and curries with good milk/sausage dishes and have favored berries

So even meh ones push you hard there if they aren't actively trying to kill you with how bad they are lol

[tribal swallow]

I think they are lol

[icy basalt]

Is this chikorita good enough to put on teams where the berry isn’t favored?

[ripe shuttle]

I'd tell you if the image loaded xD

[tribal swallow]

nature is great, skills are pretty good (for an ingredient mon)

[ripe shuttle]

Uh probably. Help speed M is one of best skills for level 10 and ingredient finder for caccao is also steller and the sooner you can get it to 25 the sooner that thing will spike hard as hell

If you need to run something unoptimal this is fine for caccao/help speed alone and being a good investment

Like if you are forced into something not favored for your extra slot or whatever

Definitely look to evolve it in the early 10s it's worth

[icy basalt]

I just am wondering if it’s better to force this thing to like 25 or try to get like 5 different guys to 10

[ripe shuttle]

5 guys to 10 is good now (and this thing is good there too to boot)

I think rushing to 25 is likely bait. Everything levels so evenly across the board in this game if it's on main team

Even if this thing has a goated 25 you sacrifice a lot for it to hit 25 at an unreasonable pace

[icy basalt]

I guess the main thing to consider for a mon rn then is just nature and lvl 10 skill then

[ripe shuttle]

Ye

And like how good the mon is/can it evolve rn

[tribal swallow]

ingredients (the first one) should be considered as well, tho idk if the first ingredient is the same every time like someone said

[icy basalt]

Is there any concern in using something average on the main team if it has like the ideal berry over trying to get consistent xp on the same single mon?

[ripe shuttle]

Pikachu crazy frequency, squirtle milk good for all dish types etc.

And like the starters all evolve in the 12-14 range which is reasonable

[icy basalt]

Wait can I evolve an eevee rn?

[ripe shuttle]

Imo it's not. Real answer is idk.

[icy basalt]

And should I?

[ripe shuttle]

Eevee needs a lot of candies and hours (or a stone) but you def can

[icy basalt]

Just realized I don’t see a level requirement

[ripe shuttle]

No level requirement

Ye

[icy basalt]

Well if I want to do flareon for that one I posted earlier

I could do that now I suppose

[ripe shuttle]

Espeon is f2p friendly and good stats but 150 hours of sleep is a bit annoying it will take like 3-4 weeks if you're sleeping decently good

Oh did you have ingredient eevee/ flareon

[icy basalt]

I did

[ripe shuttle]

Ub ye

It's not the worst

Idk how to value it

But it's >>>> eevee

[icy basalt]

Will def perform better than squirtle if I do that I imagine

[ripe shuttle]

So.... 😆

?spkmn flareon

[icy basalt]

I’ll do it tomorrow then, since you wanted to know how the eevee compared to the squirtle

[ripe shuttle]

Plz serebii don't take ages

It will be pikachu but meaningful ability and much much much better ingredient

Well milk is just much better rn not much much much better

[icy basalt]

Lacking the thing that makes Pikachu appealing tho

[ripe shuttle]

45 freq is like top half or maybe even third of characters

[icy basalt]

The extra berry trait

[ripe shuttle]

Pikachu is nuts

And flareon comparing good and better is saying something

I know probs not convincing

Anyways gl daito I think flareon could be a fire spike if it's reasonable to reach

[icy basalt]

I mean I’ll take your word for it you know more than I do

[ripe shuttle]

I mean it'll gather same speed as pika

But ye it's a weird comparison

[icy basalt]

I have plenty of points available so I’m down to grab a fire stone and try it

[ripe shuttle]

Skill specialists should trigger like twice as much

👀

Get some nutty pots you need another ingredient mon or two on team but you could have a legit setup

[icy basalt]

I need a solid ingredient gatherer that I can kinda slot as a filler on any team just to get a dish out

[ripe shuttle]

For dishes and slightly ignore fave berry

[icy basalt]

I have gastly rn as far as just filler stuff goes and that’s about as good as it can get rn

[soft nymph]

https://serebii.net/pokemonsleep/pokemon/flareon.shtml

[icy basalt]

Plenty of fiery herbs assuming I can actually manage the base ingredients for a dish

Sure took it’s time there

[ripe shuttle]

Milk/sausage + good value ingredient (caccao or herb) is ideal for curry and salad

And desert is pain but ginger/apple, tomato/apple, or you can just settle for honey dish or milk dish and slam it consistently. Dessert harder at this stage of game rn though

If you can do like flareon and some milk/sausage/caccao/herb mons that match week you swimming in money

[icy basalt]

My strat for dessert has been milk dish so far but I’m struggling to come up with enough milk at the moment

[ripe shuttle]

Ye. I found dessert having honey and milk and alternating was getting me recipe every meal (or two squirt)

Just a single milk mon by itself struggles without being like a high roll weirdo

[icy basalt]

If I do eevee and squirtle I think I get there so I’ll slot out one of the chikorita for a squirtle tomorrow

[ripe shuttle]

Gl it's all experimental rn anyways

I wanna hear how it goes 🙂

[icy basalt]

Thanks for the advice:) I’ll probably be back in here tomorrow complaining about whatever bad nature I rolled on my capture anyway so I’ll let you know

[ocean hull]

Digging through my mons, day 1 bulba might be better than I thought

[icy basalt]

I wish my charmanders had rolled a little better

[tribal swallow]

nature is bad, EXP gains up isn't worth decreased skill chance

[ocean hull]

Oh I'm well aware on the nature, it's the skills that surprised me

[icy basalt]

Although I guess this one isn’t too bad

[tribal swallow]

they're pretty good for an ingredient mon, and the ingredients themselves are great (no fodder like apples or milk)

B tier imo

[twin imp]

Mine is sorta similar. Wondering if the speed of help and other sub skills counteract the main skill chance down

[tribal swallow]

those skills are hella nice

[ocean hull]

That's way better than mine yeah

[tribal swallow]

speed of help up is amazing so yeah main skill chance down is a worthy sacrifice

[icy basalt]

You also have to consider something like that on say a larvitar is considered good just cause we don’t value the energy skill

So those builds are no less good on a mon with a better skill, it just seems like we aren’t taking advantage of it

[tribal swallow]

can I see this screenshot but scroll up to see the specific ingredients

[twin imp]

🍅🍅 😭

[iron yoke]

tomato bulb

[twin imp]

fr

[iron yoke]

i think that's a nice bulb

plenty of ingredients

with the sub skills

idk if the ingredients are the best or not

[tribal swallow]

I'm trying to find that list with all the ingredient points

[tribal swallow]

thank you ❤️

[obsidian vortex]

your welcome

[tribal swallow]

+4 and +7 are hella good

almost the maximum

the ranges for ingredient amounts (specialists) is 2, 2-5, 3-8

and you have 2, 4, 7

[twin imp]

oh dang

gonna have to invest in tomatosaur then

[obsidian vortex]

great name

Tomatosaurus

Rex

alias T-Rex

[twin imp]

Time to nickname him that

[ripe shuttle]

Oh uh that chart has accurate numbers

But it's missing a lot of mons for each ingredient.

Also ditto can find tails at higher levels like bro fyi

[tribal swallow]

those poor slowpokes 😭

[ashen idol]

my slowpoke didn't even have slowpoke tails as an ingredient 😢

[tribal swallow]

it doesn't want to hurt its friends 🥲

[ashen idol]

Nah the tails just grow until they fall off and then a new tail regrows in its place! At least that’s how I make myself sleep at night 🙂

[ripe shuttle]

Did it at least roll caccao

[ashen idol]

Yeah it did haha

[ripe shuttle]

if it rolled tomatos then

Caccao still fire

[celest lava]

@ripe shuttle I just realised something. IF ditto is S tier due to potentially dropping 3 slowpoke tail at level 60. Why can't diglett and dugtrio be A or even S tier as they potentially can drop 3 large leek at level 30 and since it's technically the second best ingredient in the game. Being an ingredients specialist that drops snoozy tomato at the beginning which have easy recipes for all 3 dish types, I think it might be one the best ingredients specialists after gengar

[ripe shuttle]

Slowpoke tail is still worth like double leek value almost.

Idk I'll try to weigh ingredients on the next tier list I make but you bring that up to Azul.

[ripe shuttle]

what nature?

We like ingredient finder, dislike skill level up, then like help speed and dislike skill trigger lol

(at least as far as we know energy bad)

If it's a help speed up bro you probably keep em

[celest lava]

But by the time ditto collects 3 slowpoke tails at level 60 dugtrio is already swimming in leeks

Like the tasty mushroom for gengar

Anyways I'll try to put in my ingredients team to prove it

[ripe shuttle]

We are very far off from leeks or tails both haha

Ditto should be able to get tails at 30 too but far off from there too so neither here nor there

[ashen idol]

it is indeed help speed +

I think it's very middling as far as Slowpokes go, ingr finder at 10 is nice but then it's a real hefty investment for the helping speed

[ripe shuttle]

Ingredient finder Sub Skill and help speed up Nature is pretty steller short term since caccao is a really high value pot ingredient

Could probably be pretty worth on oran weeks but i dunno exact drop rate values

[ashen idol]

yeah I'll probably raise it to 10 and then hope for a better one to invest in to later

[ripe shuttle]

It is really good for a slowbro though as far as slowbro's are concerned short term but the 25/75 make me eh

[elfin mantle]

Thoughts?

[tribal swallow]

show ingredients and nature pls

[ripe shuttle]

double meta currency pog

They are there

You have to tap on the image though. Discord just does a weird compression thing with multiple images if you're in zoomed out viewe

[ashen idol]

yeah nature and ingr finder not helping the pikachu there as a berry finder though

[tribal swallow]

oh I'll check

yeah they're there

didn't know discord did that

[ripe shuttle]

If we value dream shard bonus I like the squirtle quite a bit. Skill trigger M is one of the better subskills you can immediately spike with at level 10 and the neutral nature+general squirtle being really good makes me enjoy it

I think long term it's fine. DOUBLE inventory lategame is ? but I think good since you will be collecting a shit ton of sausage at that point overnight

[tribal swallow]

for the squirtle, great ingridents (cacao) and in good amounts. Skills are awful imo, none of the useful ones. Nature is neutral

[ashen idol]

squirtle doesn't need much investment (skill seed-wise) as well there

[ripe shuttle]

Skills are good for squirtle outside of dream shard but we don't mind dream shard cause meta currency

[tribal swallow]

do we value dream shard bonus?

[ripe shuttle]

It's just like a really consistent squirtle you use it

[sick marlin]

Why are slowbro/Slowking considered top tier

[ripe shuttle]

Hard to judge. Probably will bottleneck progression with dream shards at some point even if it's not too bad rn, but that's all guesswork. It's meta currency though so like i doubt it ever falls below decent. I just kinda ignore it completely when evaluating cause it has different value to different players and could be really good or just slightly nice to have

[ashen idol]

I like a lot of the global/meta skills, because even if they don't directly benefit the pokemon themselves; they do benefit you as a player overall

[ripe shuttle]

Ingredient list is caccao/tails which are crazy high value ingredients. It's kinda meh as a mon though it's not great so you need to like super high roll a slowpoke. If you high roll it though it's pretty darn good for its ingredients 🙂

[ripe shuttle]

Ye. Even energy which is the worst global i still respect enough to not just go "energy global bad go next" cause of the obtuse way it may affect your gameplay. I tend to ignore the global skills in evaluating unless they are present at level 10 and I rate the ones that are obviously very good (help bonus) incredibly highly as best 1-2 skills in the game for the potential

[celest lava]

hey @ripe shuttle please give a shout out to chose caterpie as a pic for people's research after you've rated their mons.

[ripe shuttle]

btw to add onto this I wouldn't suggest actively hunting slowpoke it's not worth stalling progress. That said though if it's hungry probably worth a catch just to eyeball it

[ashen idol]

I think my dream skill at lv 10 early game right now is Sleep Exp Bonus. I also like berry finder and help bonus. Those all seems S tier

[ripe shuttle]

wdym.

I think pikachu is best but caterpie is really high up there for candies to send ye

why shoutout where shoutout

[celest lava]

let's say it as a way of saying thank you and it'll help all to have butterfree much faster if lots of people do it

[ripe shuttle]

I think sleep exp bonus level 10 is probably S tier. It's like barely over half a candy to each active member a night per night. That's like 4 candies to every member for free over the course of a week

goated imo for grinding levels

Some people may want to focus on immediate island power though and more power to them

I'd say neutral to positive nature. what are your ingredients?

Skill level up is okay but not best in slot. If we have good ingredients at level 30 we like the ingredient finder. Berry finder at level 50 is S tier

What is the level 30 and level 50 ingredients and what amount

that's more what I need to know. Grepa/apple is the same for all pikachus 😛

Man bummed it's apples at 30 instead of eggs or ginger

IT's still a good pikachu though it'll be like pretty average until level 50 and level 50 it will get really nutty and the two skills after that are really good.

Average pikachu is fine because they're really strong as a species you don't mind average pikachu on your team

Even if you found a better pikachu, you'd probably just run both on grepa weeks together

And then yah if you actually reach 50 it'll be super super nice 🙂

if a bit aways

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Those ingredients 😳

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ye. Energy down is goated and while exp up is kinda whatever, it is still a net positive. You will climb research ranks slightly faster with this on the team (yes exp up affects research rank not pokemon exp).

Decent amounts of ginger and herbs lategame is nice long term.

SKill trigger M imo is very strong on the ingredient magnet gatherers since it pads out your meals really nicely. Inventory up M isn't bad either going into level 25-30 because you will start to collect 4x ginger at level 30. Could be better but it isn't bad. Second inventory up is overkill (probs). Double help speed lategame is incredibly fire though. By the time you reach those high levels you might actually be using all that space from the double inventory ups overnight and just swimming in herbs/ginger.

Tldr level 10 is strong, 25-30 are average but you are still above odds, you'll hit a lul from 50-60 where it's kinda averagish, and then it will start picking back up again as you level past that point 🙂

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rate my meowth?

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Sleep EXP bonus at lv 10 already makes this S tier

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Down energy is steller and ingredient finding is probably solid. Definitely better than not having it at least

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does the bonus make the XP gained go over 100?

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If you don't have a good 5th on your teams for a week you probably slam him for chances at currency and to pad milk storages while leveling your main team faster 🙂 dream shard mons hard to run but this is a good one

ye

14% more so instead of 100 exp it's 114 exp. It's like half a candy each night to each party member

Quite good long term over like a week or more