Render96 (sm64ex fork)

[upbeat garnet]

This issue could be from the cfw (ArkOs Community 05242024). I will try it on another sd with standard ArkOs.

[mental slate]

I don't know a lot about all the CFW, I've put my feet in it this year when I got my rg353vs. I rely a lot on @oblique pulsar help for this part 😄

[oblique pulsar]

Ill be able to retest all of the cfw's once im home😄

[mental slate]

no hurry, it's summer !

enjoy the weather 😄

31 C here in QC 😄

[oblique pulsar]

Knulli and trimui are low priority (would be nice to get them working). Muos is a bit of a bummer and i dont think im smart enough to fix it. And that community arkos, idk kotzebuedog is testing on arkos so that seems like an issue on their end. I can give that a try as well though.

[oblique pulsar]

I wish haha

[mental slate]

@last ridge for you, if you confirmed the fix I'll include this in the next version 🙂 attachment removed

[mental slate]

So we don't gotta make them all work ! 😄 lol

[oblique pulsar]

I sent the testing requirements earlier, theyre probably a bit buried now :p

Technically only muos is left

But that might just be an issue with muos' audio driver, im just not knowledgeable enough to find out😄

[mental slate]

I think we haven't verified all the testing requirement after the switch to GLES

[oblique pulsar]

Ah okay. I can do pretty everything except rgb30 resolution if necessary.

[last ridge]

works, english is default now 👍 (i changed language back to 0 in the config and its still english so behaving as expected now)

[mental slate]

great teamwork mate !

[last ridge]

nice job making a fix that quick 🫡

[mental slate]

it's becoming more than porting, it's refactoring lol

[oblique pulsar]

QC, Philippines?

[oblique pulsar]

You definitely took on a big project for your first one😄

Or qc quebec?

[mental slate]

QC like Québec 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Wow didnt know it could get so hot there

[mental slate]

and so cold as well lol

it's like -35 few days in cold winters (not every year) to +35 few days in summer (it's starting to be regular)

at leat I get real winter and real summer, while in Britanny in France I had summer and rainy fall/winter (no interest except for the salads lol)

however summer starts later and ends earlier here but it's fine

[oblique pulsar]

In the netherlands the range is like -5 to 20

Usually just 10c with rain

[mental slate]

I don't remember Masstricht beeing that cold

[oblique pulsar]

Im from the northern part

In the summer it can get a bit higher, but its pretty rare

[mental slate]

At leat you're not as bad as in Scotland

[oblique pulsar]

Yeah that's true, cant really get any worse😄

[mental slate]

TL;DR: if you want to give a try:

1. download testing-v3.5
2. unzip it in roms/ports/
3. put your SM64 rom in roms/ports/render96ex with the name baserom.us.z64
4. run render96ex.sh

Changes in v3.5:

• replace readdir by scandir with alpha sorting in render96ex code to avoid the language index dancing seen in knulli by Zak
• note for knulli users: bind the right stick to keyboard controls in knulli then map that to c-stick inputs in render96ex

[upbeat garnet]

I tried v3.4 on a fresh install of standard ArkOs on my r36s and I still have the same problem.

[mental slate]

So the only remaining problem for you is that you can not launch the port from the port list but you need to do it manually from the file manager is that right?

[upbeat garnet]

Yes, that's right.

[mental slate]

@upbeat garnet are you inflating the zip archive into your sd card with Windows ? Also can you please remind me what is happening if you try to launch it fron the port list ?

[upbeat garnet]

I use 7-zip to unzip in windows.

The game starts and shows the mario render96 logo, you hear 'It's me Mario'. Then, it closes and returns to the ports list.

[oblique pulsar]

Sounds like what happens on muos

[mental slate]

yes but on ArkOS, that is strange

and I remember that in the log I saw DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device.

I'll wait for another ArkOS test and I'll see with Robbert if I can debug this. I already know from where in the code this message comes. ( data/dynos_audio.c line 141).Maybe launching with file manage allows it to use another audio plugin.

Oh I may have an idea, I see also Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1002//pulse): No such file or directory I wonder if file manager launches it with another user. That's a possibility

[last ridge]

I’ll also be able to test rocknix and arkos this weekend on an rg503 if necessary

[mental slate]

Your feedbacks on rocknix and arkos are welcome 🤗

[mental slate]

@low jungle I'm starting to look in depth at the hardcoded assets in sm64ex-coop and I've tried to build it again. Do you remember getting this error while building sm64ex-coop ?

Compiling: actors/zcustom0.c -> build/us_pc/actors/zcustom0.o
In file included from actors/zcustom0.c:20:
actors/wario_cap/model.inc.c:31:10: fatal error: actors/wario_cap/custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16.inc.c: No such file or directory
   31 | #include "actors/wario_cap/custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16.inc.c"
      |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
make: *** [Makefile:1792: build/us_pc/actors/zcustom0.o] Error 1

I don't remember how I did fix it the first time (I think in a very crappy way) but today I've been able to resume and finish the build (make EXTERNAL_DATA=1 USE_GLES=1) after doing this
echo -n 'actors/wario_cap/custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16' > build/us_pc/actors/wario_cap/custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16 && hexdump -v -e '1/1 "0x%X,"' build/us_pc/actors/wario_cap/custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16 > build/us_pc/actors/wario_cap/custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16.inc.c

I'll try to fix this properly in the Makefile 'cause he is the one who should perform this.

How did it go on your side ?

[low jungle]

sm64ex-coop on the Android repository from that one fork person whatever it was compiled properly and works

The repo that adds Android and other Unix support and GLES and such

[mental slate]

this one I guess https://github.com/robertkirkman/sm64ex-coop

it's strange I am using exactly this one

maybe I'll try to git clone it again... XD

[low jungle]

Yes that one

I built successfully

First try

The other one failed

But the devs of the official repo have interesting and stupid reasons for not supporting other Unix platforms and GLES

Where are you on compiling on?

I did it on a Radxa Zero 3E with the Debian Xfce image but disabling the DE

Then added the same executable I use for sm64ex and it just works without any compat libs

No GL4ES at all

[mental slate]

docker image build from the Dockerfile that comes with but using ubuntu 20.04 instead of 22.04 🙂 I get a build but I needed two extra command lines to get the missing custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16.inc.c

Compiling: src/goddard/dynlists/anim_group_1.c -> build/us_pc/src/goddard/dynlists/anim_group_1.o
Linking executable: build/us_pc/sm64ex-coop.us.f3dex2e
Making basepack list.
Packing basepack zip file.

[low jungle]

I didn’t use docker

I built on bare metal

[mental slate]

nothing else maters than metal 😄

[low jungle]

You’re metal!

[mental slate]

I think I am unidentifiable musically speaking, I listen to very different styles. But I do like old "soft" metal like Metallica, Rammstein 🔥

[low jungle]

Should I build again and show you a video?

[mental slate]

no it's building fine with a fresh git clone --recussive no idea why

I wonder if the make distclean doesn't f*-up the repo

[low jungle]

Hmmmm

[mental slate]

however git shows no change

trying a 2nd build right now after a distclean

let's see ^^

no it just passed the critical step

[low jungle]

Rip?

[mental slate]

no no, the build worked

I've just replicated the change I've made on Render96ex in sm64ex-coop to load demo data from external files. I still need to check if other assets are hardcoded but I am making progress 🙂

[low jungle]

ahhhh i see

i still need to try the current render96ex version on knulli Allwinner

trimui smart poop

its good but poop jokes funny

[mental slate]

You can see the modification here https://github.com/cdeletre/sm64ex-coop/commit/4ea21d3b96314f69f222be19b65d3399ac86819a

[low jungle]

meow sankyou

[mental slate]

I forgot to mention it in the commit but it also fixes the issue when using the EXTERNAL_DATA=1 for the build (see [here](#1248351720464191590 message) for the story).

Also I can say that with this patch and using EXTERNAL_DATA=1 no other external data from the rom is hardcoded in the generated binary. I've checked every line in the build log 🤪

[mental slate]

funny fact about the sm64ex-coop build:
docker run --rm -v ${PWD}:/sm64 sm64excoop-builder:20.04-arm64 make EXTERNAL_DATA=1 USE_GLES=1 fails with actors/wario_cap/model.inc.c:31:10: fatal error: actors/wario_cap/custom_wario_cap_logo.rgba16.inc.c: No such file or directory but docker run --rm -v ${PWD}:/sm64 sm64excoop-builder:20.04-arm64 make EXTERNAL_DATA=1 USE_GLES=1 -j8 works ...

[mental slate]

And here is the fix https://github.com/cdeletre/sm64ex-coop/commit/e5b65bd39ee455b451c3bb3672137436f49097f2

[mental slate]

here is my analysis if someone is interested

[upbeat garnet]

Hi, I have found that it can also run correctly if I place render96ex.sh in the tools folder. Then, I can add it to favorites for a faster launch.

[mental slate]

Is it on ArkOS or ArkOS community?

[upbeat garnet]

ArkOs, but on community it should be the same.

[oblique pulsar]

Tests:
R36S/Arkos/❌
R36S/AmberElec/✅
X55/Rocknix/✅
Plus/muOS/❌

Log:
All the installs went perfectly. Both on muOS and Arkos I get the same audio crash. Happens after "Its a me Mario"
FATAL ERROR: DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device.

[mental slate]

Hello Jan! Thank you for the tests 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Youre welcome. I think the installer is good like this 🙂

Idk why its so much quicker on rocknix

[ocean yarrow]

Less haunted

[oblique pulsar]

Like 30 seconds compared to 3 minutes

[mental slate]

You got 3 minutes to install it on other CFW ??

However rocknix takes longer to boot 😉

[oblique pulsar]

Yeah on amber it took 2.5 minutes on a rk3326

Thats for sure

[mental slate]

Oh so I was right to say in the popup message that it could take minutes

[oblique pulsar]

Yup

[ocean yarrow]

Is it the same device with different times?

[oblique pulsar]

No x55 vs r36

But still

Huge difference

[ocean yarrow]

Aren’t they different cpus?

[mental slate]

the sdcard ?

[oblique pulsar]

Yes rk3566 and rk3326

Ahhh

Youre onto something

[mental slate]

rk3566 is quite an upgrade compared to rk3326

[ocean yarrow]

Big difference in those in pure cpu performance

[oblique pulsar]

I use a 16gb chinese special for amber

Sorry not sorry😄

[ocean yarrow]

Why????

[oblique pulsar]

Because i dont use it

Neither do i use arkos

Because r36

[mental slate]

same for me, arkos on chinese sd card however it's fast

[oblique pulsar]

Yeah arkos is an outlier with boot times idk how

[ocean yarrow]

I just buy some sdcards.

[mental slate]

me too

[oblique pulsar]

Oh i bought 12 sd cards😄

[mental slate]

but I used them for other purpose like the Wii U, my raspberry server 😄

[oblique pulsar]

But this was before that and i never used amber untill now again

But anyway its a one time install so its fine. About the audio issue, i wonder why its working for you (on arkos)

Also sm64 did work on muos so maybe theres some regression in render96?

Or upgrade that doesnt work*

[ocean yarrow]

I have 21 sdcards now. :/

Ignoring the ones that came with devices.

[mental slate]

I'm gonna build a "debug" version of render96 that output some information during the audio setup

[oblique pulsar]

Sounds good, let me know when i need to test it again😄

[mental slate]

micro SD cards are so small, you don't notice you have that much until you count them XD

[oblique pulsar]

I have them in one of those flippy thingies

[mental slate]

also sometime I discover "lost" micro SD card lol

[ocean yarrow]

I have them labeled with letters. I have a document that says what they are for.

[mental slate]

I have them, that's all I know

[oblique pulsar]

I recently found my 10 year old 512mb sd card from my nintendo ds

[ocean yarrow]

Haha. I have a 64mb one from my original digital camera. The one I took with me to the USA in 2004. 😄

[oblique pulsar]

Crazy how fast storage has gotten better

64mb is 10 pictures now haha

[mental slate]

yes, my first HD was 512 Mo

[ocean yarrow]

My friends boss has a 10mb hdd from the 70s

It was the size of a coffee table

[oblique pulsar]

Wow😄

[mental slate]

I'm sad I didn't keep my floppy disks, to show to my kids 😄

[ocean yarrow]

As someone with kids. They probably wouldn’t care. 😄

“Cool” with absolute zero interest in it.

[oblique pulsar]

I would

[ocean yarrow]

Aren’t you about the age of my kids?

[mental slate]

My little boy kind of care

[ocean yarrow]

[mental slate]

are you like 60+ ?

[ocean yarrow]

40 in a few weeks. 😄

[mental slate]

oh, I'm 40 too

[ocean yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/xluna-high-five-gif-25422702

My eldest is 24.

[oblique pulsar]

Im younger than your eldest😅

So yes

[ocean yarrow]

lol

[mental slate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hangover-who-let-the-dogs-out-gif-18696345

[oblique pulsar]

Damn you were young

[ocean yarrow]

I have 24, 21, 18, 10

The three eldest are step children. My wife is older than me. 😄

[mental slate]

Big familly !

[ocean yarrow]

But I raised them.

[oblique pulsar]

That makes more sense😄

Awesome dude

[ocean yarrow]

So I claim them as my children. 😄

Except when they piss me off. 😂

[mental slate]

I just have two kids, 6 and 9 and that's enough 😄

[ocean yarrow]

The 10 yr old is “mine”, I try to claim he isn’t mine sometimes too.

[mental slate]

same here 😄 but coming from my wife

[ocean yarrow]

Yeah my wife tries to disown me too sometimes.

[zenith leaf]

Tell me, what am I doing wrong? At the stage of building Docker images.
I am using WSL Ubuntu 20.04 and 22.04

[oblique pulsar]

No need to do that anymore

Just download the 3.5 package

And place your baserom in the portfolder

[mental slate]

see here #1248351720464191590 message 🙂

it's funny how this chan is more than 50% of the time off-topic 😄

That doesn't help the poor volunteers that want to test this port like Dimma, sorry friend 😉

[mental slate]

Here is a first attempt to get some information about the SDL audio setup. With ArkOS on my RG353VS I got this info:

detectedMusicFreq=22050, detectedMusicChan=2, countAudioDevices=2
Audiodevice[0]=rockchip,rk817-codec, fe410000.i2s-rk817-hifi rk817-hifi-0
Audiodevice[1]=rockchip,hdmi, fe400000.i2s-i2s-hifi i2s-hifi-0

Just to let you know, I added this in DynOS_Music_GetDevice():

    // DEBUG
    const int countAudioDevices = SDL_GetNumAudioDevices(0);
    printf("detectedMusicFreq=%d, detectedMusicChan=%d, countAudioDevices=%d\n",detectedMusicFreq,detectedMusicChan,countAudioDevices);
    for (int index=0; index < countAudioDevices; index++){
        printf("Audiodevice[%i]=%s\n", index, SDL_GetAudioDeviceName(index,0));
    }

[oblique pulsar]

Aight. Testing later 🙂

[zenith leaf]

Thanks! But how do I rebuild it anyway? I want to embed my translation into it.

[mental slate]

Just to be sure, what files have you modified for your translation ?

[zenith leaf]

A lot of files. For there is a version for sm64ex
https://github.com/Dima353/SM64-Rus-Patch/releases

[mental slate]

Also it seems that you are not using my Dockerfile (package list order differs and TZ env seems to be missing). Here is mine:

FROM ubuntu:20.04 as build

# avoid prompt for user input when installing tzdata
ARG DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
ENV TZ=Etc/UTC

RUN TZ=Etc/UTC apt-get update && \
    apt-get install -y \
        bsdmainutils \
        build-essential \
        git \
        libglew-dev \
        libsdl2-dev \
        python3

RUN mkdir /render96
WORKDIR /render96
ENV PATH="/render96/tools:${PATH}"

CMD echo 'Build binary:     docker run --rm -v ${PWD}:/render96 render96 make NOEXTRACT=1 -j8\n' \
         'Extract assets:   run --rm -v ${PWD}:/render96 render96 make res\n'\
         'See https://github.com/Render96/Render96ex/wiki for more information'

[mental slate]

I foresee you're gonna having fun to build it, there are lots of changes in .c files and I can't say if it will brake something 🙂 Good luck !

[zenith leaf]

Is the build implemented only through Docker? Can I use a makefile?

[mental slate]

you can build without docker ofc. You can refer to https://portmaster.games/build-environments.html for other build solutions

[zenith leaf]

what flags are needed? make -4j

[mental slate]

If you got trouble to build the arm64 docker image you can first try to simply run an unmodified aarch64 ubuntu-20.04 image

[mental slate]

make -j4

-j4 just means 'launch 4 build task at the same time'

[zenith leaf]

Oh, I made a mistake))

Thanks!

[mental slate]

make res will generate the base.zip texts and demos in build/us_pc/res

make NOEXTRACT=1 USE_GLES=1 -j4 will generate the sm64.us.f3dex2e in build/us_pc

il you want an opengl build remove the USE_GLES flag but for handheld that's not what you want

If it's getting too complicated to get everything working (aarch64, russian patch, gles, etc) you can first try to build an x86_64 version from the orignal render96ex sources (https://github.com/Render96/Render96ex) with no patch, then try to get the russian patch working

[mental slate]

don't forget to git checkout tester_rt64alpha after the git clone from the original repo

otherwise you're gonna build an old version that hasn't dynos (dynamic pack load)

[zenith leaf]

Wow! Thanks for the details

[mental slate]

Also you can first try to get the patch working on the sources it was designed for: sm64ex. I didn't get render96ex to build on my first try. I've first build sm64-port (you can ignore it, very old) then sm64ex, then sm64ex-coop and finaly render96ex 🙂

[low jungle]

testing 3.5 is the newest right

[oblique pulsar]

yup

[low jungle]

thank you jan

you are fast

;)

[oblique pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-sonic-fast-run-walk-gif-17514382

[low jungle]

i only need baserom.us.z64 in the root folder correct

yes

@mental slate optional is spelled "optionnal" in many places

It froze

idk if thats intentional or not

i think i broke it

[oblique pulsar]

Its installed

[low jungle]

but its frozen

my handheld doesnt respond

what do

[oblique pulsar]

I doubt it actually froze

Press B/A then dpad-down, then again B/A

Otherwise start +select

If that doesnt work hold the power button😄

[low jungle]

Hmph

the game doesnt work let me debug with ssh

why

[oblique pulsar]

I dont know whats wrong, it just kills render96

Is your sd card ext4?

[mental slate]

Thank you for noticing. I also do this typo 😬

[mental slate]

Yes this is strange. Also A and B buttons are swapped on rocknix except if I use the system text_viewer

[last ridge]

My logs were looking similar on knulli if my device ran out of memory, sometimes it would have the underrun error and sometimes it would just be killed like that if all the resource packs were installed

[low jungle]

Whatever Knulli defaults to

[oblique pulsar]

Sorry i completely forgot: ```
detectedMusicFreq=0, detectedMusicChan=0, countAudioDevices=2
Audiodevice[0]=audiocodec,
Audiodevice[1]=ahubhdmi,
FATAL ERROR:
DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device.
[~]#

For muOS

[mental slate]

Thanks a lot

That is what I suspected

[oblique pulsar]

Doesnt really tell you much does it?😄

[mental slate]

On the contrary I see where the issue is

[oblique pulsar]

Really?

[mental slate]

Need to know how to fix it now

[mental slate]

It comes from my patch to allow other wav format

[oblique pulsar]

Okay😄

Wont be easy troubleshooting when it works for you already

[mental slate]

It is pushing me to buy a RG35XX H that I don’t need

So that I can run all the CFW I didn’t need before

[last ridge]

I impulse bought my 35xx h for $33

I see it go for $40 on aliexpress sometimes then there’s coupons that bring it down more

Also this might be a dumb question but can the game use mp3 instead of wav so that it doesn’t use as much memory bc the mp3 sound files are much smaller

[mental slate]

Not possible without deep modifications in the source code. Another idea would be to not preload all the music and jingles but only when needed but the game

Any option requires deep modification

I’ll look for mp3 or vorbis when I get a working port

[mental slate]

Hi Jan ! Can you try to run this test program sdltest on the same device+cfw ? It should output

ark@rg353v:~$ ./sdltest
test.wav loaded
detected frequency:24000
detected channels:2

Thx !

[oblique pulsar]

Sure thing

[mental slate]

the zip also include the .cpp if you wanna see what I'm doing 😄

[oblique pulsar]

Sweet, although i doubt i could understand much of c++ code😄

Ill chatgpt it :p

What do i do exactly? I have to build it? @mental slate

Running sdltest straight gives no output

[mental slate]

no no it is already compiled

just run ./sdltest 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

yeah okay i get no output at all😅

[~]#

[mental slate]

is the test.wav in the same dir ?

[oblique pulsar]

Yup

[mental slate]

ok, I need to check why it it not opening it then 😄

will build another test program ^^

[oblique pulsar]

Cool😄

[mental slate]

@oblique pulsar here we go 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Okay were getting something now

Could not open test.wav: Couldn't open test.wav
[~]#

😄

test.wav is right next to sdltest

Oh lol

I have to be cd'd into the sdl folder

[~]# cd "/SDL_LoadWAV_test/"
[/SDL_LoadWAV_test]# ./sdltest
test.wav loaded
detected frequency:24000
detected channels:2
[/SDL_LoadWAV_test]#

[mental slate]

yes please sir

ohh

better 🙂

[mental slate]

Perfect 🙂

thank you for testing 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Is it useful?

[mental slate]

yes 🙂 I just wanted to be sure the wav format dection works

[mental slate]

@oblique pulsar when you have the time can you run this build of render96ex and send me the log. I've added additional error message from SDL 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Sure thing

[mental slate]

no need to hurry 😉

[oblique pulsar]

Eh ive got my plus on and connected to ssh😄

One moment

[mental slate]

I just need the log for ArkOS on R36s

[oblique pulsar]

Oh i thought muos

[mental slate]

oh

[oblique pulsar]

Arkos sounds like an issue on my end

It works for you

[mental slate]

well, just test where it fails 🙂 I'll try to understand what is the issue

maybe the issue has no solution 😄 we'll see

[oblique pulsar]

Maybe😄

For arkos theres this config file that gets corrupted or something while updating ota

Might be the issue for me

Because some other ports have issues

[mental slate]

As Robbert is having also sound issue with arkos on r36s I think it is worth looking deeper

[oblique pulsar]

loaded 5 controller mappings from 'db/gamecontrollerdb.txt'
precaching data
unknown texture format: `gfx/textures/special/hud_ue_uppercase`, skipping
unknown texture format: `gfx/levels/ending/cake`, skipping
unknown texture format: `gfx/textures/special/hud_ue_uppercase`, skipping
unknown texture format: `gfx/levels/ending/cake`, skipping
controller Deeplay-keys has haptics support, rumble enabled
detectedMusicFreq=0, detectedMusicChan=0, countAudioDevices=2
Audiodevice[0]=audiocodec,
Audiodevice[1]=ahubhdmi,
FATAL ERROR:
DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio d                                             evice: Device or resource busy)
[~]# /mnt/mmc/ROMS/Ports/render96ex.sh: line 134: systemctl: command not found
[~]#

For muOS.

This alsa error only pops up sometimes, it doesnt always fyi

Sometimes its just this: DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device.

[mental slate]

alsa can't be used by multiple process at the same time, it needs an abstration layer I think

[oblique pulsar]

Can i kill alsa manually?

Just to see😄

[mental slate]

lol

pulseaudio is a way to have multiple stream I know

does muos have pulseaudio ?

[oblique pulsar]

[~]# ls /usr/bin/pulseaudio
ls: /usr/bin/pulseaudio: No such file or directory
[~]#
Dont think so

Oh it does

[~]# ls /usr/lib/libpulse.so.0
/usr/lib/libpulse.so.0
[~]#

[mental slate]

great

it seems muos also has pipewire

[oblique pulsar]

Yeah thats what confused me

i swear they said they didnt

No, it should work hdmi automatically when connected, we probably need to set it in the retroarch.cfg. another problem we have is we are just using alsa, no pulse or pipewire, so our audio configurations are a little finicky lol

From the muos server

Maybe dummy libs for now?

[mental slate]

we can try export SDL_AUDIODRIVER="pulseaudio"

if you wanna try

[oblique pulsar]

Just add it to the bash right?

oh nvm😄

[mental slate]

could also work

I think this will be our last test for today 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Interesting

Demo data loaded
Loading File: ./res/texts/AM_us.dSDL init error: Audio target 'pulseaudio' not available

Hard crash now after loading textures

[mental slate]

😄

so no pulseaudio as they say 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

yup haha

[mental slate]

there is something with alsa: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116042

nvm it's not what we need

well my friend, thank you for the tests

[oblique pulsar]

Always 🙂

[mental slate]

we'll continue later the journey

[oblique pulsar]

You really picked a hard one to start with

[mental slate]

have a great day

[oblique pulsar]

Hope youre still enjoying it somewhat haha

[mental slate]

yes, still opengl build is working on more devices but I'd prefer to get this GLES build working 🙂

[mental slate]

sure

btw you can remove the export SDL_AUDIODRIVER="pulseaudio" from your .sh now

just before I leave, another debug build for you 😉
It outputs this on ArkOS for me

detectedMusicFreq=22050, detectedMusicChan=2, countAudioDevices=2
Audiodevice[0]=rockchip,rk817-codec, fe410000.i2s-rk817-hifi rk817-hifi-0
Audiodevice[1]=rockchip,hdmi, fe400000.i2s-i2s-hifi i2s-hifi-0
DynOS_Music_GetDevice: music device opened
DynOS_Jingle_GetDevice: jingle device opened
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened

you can test another day 😉

[oblique pulsar]

controller Deeplay-keys has haptics support, rumble enabled
detectedMusicFreq=0, detectedMusicChan=0, countAudioDevices=2
Audiodevice[0]=audiocodec,
Audiodevice[1]=ahubhdmi,
FATAL ERROR:
DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Device or resource busy)
/mnt/mmc/ROMS/Ports/render96ex.sh: line 134: systemctl: command not found
[~]#

[mental slate]

@oblique pulsar can you please get me the /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf on muos ? I'd like to understand the config 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Sure thing ill send the whole thing. Theres some funky stuff going on with their setup

Theres tons of configs even for libraries they apparently dont use😄

[mental slate]

You testing muos on rg35xx isn't it ?

[oblique pulsar]

Yes

The plus

Heres some more stuff that looked audio related haha

[mental slate]

that's a lot of file for audio

isn't there any simple alsa.conf somewhere ?

[oblique pulsar]

It was in there😄

[mental slate]

do you have any /etc/asound.conf present in the system ?

or ~/.asoundrc

[oblique pulsar]

[~]# find / -name asound.conf
find: /proc/2344: No such file or directory
[~]# find / -name .asoundrc
Dont think so

Wait

Found this under var/lib/alsa

And this under /proc/

[mental slate]

ok thx !

[oblique pulsar]

Im going to bed soon sorry😄

Feel free to ask for stuff ill send it tomorrow

[mental slate]

Good night ! And thx again for the file quest 😄

[mental slate]

you can also check if software mixing is enable by running this program (can be run on ArkOS and muOS if you want). I get this result on my ArkOS:

ark@rg353v:~$ ./sdltest
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 2
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 3

[oblique pulsar]

[~]# "/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test/sdltest"
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 2
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Device o                                      [~]# "/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test/sdltest"
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 2
[~]# "/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test/sdltest"
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 2
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Device or resource busy)[~]# cd "/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test/"

[mental slate]

Ok so it can’t use the audio device twice in parallel

This is on muOS or ArkOS?

[oblique pulsar]

yeah seems like it

Muos

[mental slate]

Can you try to add a $HOME/.asoundrc with this content and try again?

# anbernic-audio alsa config
# dmix + softvol

pcm.!default {
        type            plug
        slave.pcm       "softvol"
}

ctl.!default {
        type            hw
        card            0
}

pcm.ddmix {
        ipc_key         1024
        type            dmix
        slave {
                pcm         "hw:0,0"
                period_time 0
                period_size 1024
                buffer_size 4096
                rate 44100
        }
}

pcm.softvol {
        type            softvol
        slave.pcm {
        type asym
        playback.pcm {
            type route
            slave.pcm "ddmix"
            ttable.0.0 0.96
            ttable.0.1 0.80
            ttable.1.0 0.80
            ttable.1.1 0.96
        }
        capture.pcm "hw:0"
    }
        control {
                name        "Master"
                card        0
        }
}

Then you can remove the file

[oblique pulsar]

Like this?

[mental slate]

This is supposed to enable dmix (software mixing) which allows multiple audio device uses

[mental slate]

it should be in /home/muos_default_user also the filename starts with a dot .asoundrc

[oblique pulsar]

okay haha

Theres nothing under muos folder but ill add this

[mental slate]

it's fine

you connect with ssh with the user muos?

[oblique pulsar]

No root

[fossil pendant]

muOS doesn't really have a user other than root afaik, the muos user is just used for SFTPgo server

Like it's not an actual linux user I don't think

[mental slate]

oh so it should be placed in /root

sorry

[oblique pulsar]

Okay that actually changed something:

ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2188:(_snd_pcm_direct_new) unable to create IPC semaphore
ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2188:(_snd_pcm_direct_new) unable to create IPC semaphore
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Function not implemented)DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Function not implemented)[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]#

[mental slate]

ok that is worst 😄

[oblique pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[mental slate]

that means gameover for muOS for music support until the audio system is updated

[oblique pulsar]

Fair enough, could you eli5 to me whats broken with the current driver?

[mental slate]

the current alsa setup in muOS uses directly the audio hardware device and sadly the audio device doesn't implement mixing (multiple stream at the same time). A software mixing can be enabled in alsa (dmix) as a workaround but in muOS I have no ideaif this is possible (it requires alsa stuffs but I don't remember what)

I think pipewire will solve this

[fossil pendant]

pipewire is better anyway

[oblique pulsar]

Lets wait on that

[mental slate]

yep

[oblique pulsar]

Soon we can exclude certain cfw's as well

[mental slate]

@oblique pulsar you also have arkos on an R36S ?

[oblique pulsar]

Yeah but i have no wifi for it. I hate the thing

[mental slate]

😦

ok so it's hard to run test programs 😄

need to setup a .sheach time

Thank you Jan for the additionnal tests

[oblique pulsar]

Thank you for trying to fix this for muos😄

[mental slate]

I'll try to resume later the limitations on muOS and ArkOS for certain handheld

[mental slate]

If I had a device that run muOS I could do it

with a bit of patience 😄

[oblique pulsar]

Id love to see you do it, but testing without a device is insane

[mental slate]

I was looking at RG35XX but I don't need it so...

[oblique pulsar]

Time to wait for a sale :p

I got mine for 40 euros

[mental slate]

well have a good evening !

got to go

[oblique pulsar]

You too👋

[last ridge]

Tested v3.5 on an RG503 running latest version of rocknix, smooth out of the box w/ fresh install

device is 1gb of memory and widescreen as well, i didnt get any of the running out of memory issues i was getting on knulli so rocknix is just better ig

[mental slate]

Thanks @last ridge !

[last ridge]

np, can do the arkos test tomorrow night probably

[mental slate]

I don't have a device that can run muOS but after digging in the muOS disk image (RG35XX OG) I see that it is using the tinyalsa to interface with ALSA in the Linux kernel (correct me if I am wrong).

root@bc1b38fe6326:/muos# ls -1 /mnt/part2/lib/*alsa*
/mnt/part2/lib/libtinyalsa.so

After googling a bit I have found this post where I can read that tinyalsa uses the ALSA device directly and exclusively (advantage is mainly low-latency). I don't see in tinyalsa anything about software mixing (like dmix in legacy alsa). This means that only one audio stream at a time can be sent to the audio device, except if the audio device support hardware mixing (seems no to be the case on RG35xx). In conclusion the current version of muOS can only run Render96ex without the audio dynos pack because this audio pack requires 3 additional audio streams (music, jingle, sfx) that are setup along the main audio stream herited from sm64ex project. I will add a warning about this limitation on muOS in the message that popup during the installation process. If muOS updates its sound system in the future this issue may disappear. A workaround would need to implement software mixing (SDL3 offers this but it is not supported in Portmaster) in Render96ex but I'm really not planning to do 😅

EDIT: see below but muOS isn't using libtinyalsa (but supports it). However it's using plain old alsa without dmix which is the reason of this sound issue

[zenith mirage]

Hello, I'm one of the muOS devs. Rg35xx og didn't really have port support, it's all of the newer devices that do. The muOS image for the OG is quite dated. Our current version, 2405.1 refried beans is aarch64 and mu h more capable. That being said, if you need any info or someone to test this feel free to ping me anytime!

[mental slate]

Hi @zenith mirage Thank you for stopping by 🙂 Indeed I've realized, after posting my previous message, and when I started looking at the 2405.1 refried bean that this one is newer. I also detect the use of libtinyalsa in 2405.1 refried bean. My assumption is that the program running on muOS that use alsa for the sound are using this tinyalsa lib. Am I right ? The issue we seems to have with muOS in the scope of the port of Render96ex is that 4 SDL_OpenAudioDevice are called but only the first is a success and the next ones fail as the device is in use and doesn't support multiple stream mixing. It works on other CFW that have alsa dmix enabled which offer multiple stream mixing (software). It seems not to be the case in muOS and I think it isn't supported. Have you any idea about this ?

[zenith mirage]

We have support for tinyalsa but don't use it. At the moment we are just using plain old alsa, but we don't have dmix available. However. Our next major version, 2407 Banana should hopefully see us move from alsa to pipewire with wireplumber

[mental slate]

Oh ok. So i was wrong about tinyalsa

Any ETA for banana ?🍌

[zenith mirage]

There are a number of ports that fail to run from.portmaster currently due to the alsa issue of just the 1 thread unfortunately. Axiom verge is one I know about

[zenith mirage]

Hopefully by end of July since we dubbed it 2407, but we are just now getting into it really after refried took so long lol

[mental slate]

And enabling dmix through .asoundrc is possible ?

[zenith mirage]

I'd have to look into it, I know almost nothing about how the audio stuff works on these devices, but I can take it back to the team and see what they say

[mental slate]

If you can have a feedback on this that will be nice 🙂 Anyway we know that this alsa issue will be part of the past soon 🙂

[zenith mirage]

Yeah, I've spent way too much time getting pipewire working lol. But I will definitely get back to you on the alsa issue and see if I can't rig something up

[mental slate]

Great ! Thanks !

I think that a /root/.asoundrc correctly setup for dmix, if dmix is available, could solve this alsa issue. However dmix introduces latency

I don't feel the latency is dramatic as I haven't noticed it

I found some reading about dmix here https://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix

Also ArchLinux doc shows a very basic setup https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Dmix which consists of adding to /etc/asound.conf

pcm.dsp {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "dmix"
}

[oblique pulsar]

If you need any more testing let know. Ive installed 2405.1 now which supposedly has some fixed related to the audio drivers 🙂

[zenith mirage]

Just added that and so far haven't lost audio, so I'm down to test lol

[/mnt/mmc]# ./sdltest
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 2
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Device or resource busy)[/mnt/mmc]#

No dice

[mental slate]

This is with default muOS config isn't it ?

[zenith mirage]

This is after I added the etc/asound.conf

[mental slate]

oh ok

[zenith mirage]

I'm gonna be gone for a week, but when I get back I'll start pestering the boss man to add pipewire lol

[mental slate]

Maybe with /root/.asoundrc like this something may happen

pcm.ddmix {
    type dmix
    slave{
      pcm "hw:0,0"
    }
}
pcm.!default {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "ddmix"
}

@oblique pulsar wanna try ? 😄

Also I'm interrested in the result of aplay -L

🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Sure thing, ill give it a shot tomorrow because its getting late here. Do i need to add any configs?

[mental slate]

Sure ! Take your time. I just need the SDL_open device test with the .asoundrc file as shown here before. The aplay -L can be run without any config

Thx and good night!

[oblique pulsar]

[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]# "/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test/sdltest"
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 2
[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]# aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default:CARD=audiocodec
    audiocodec,
    Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=audiocodec
    audiocodec,
    Default Audio Device
default:CARD=ahubhdmi
    ahubhdmi,
    Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=ahubhdmi
    ahubhdmi,
    Default Audio Device
[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]# "/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test/sdltest"
ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2123:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) Unique IPC key is not defined
ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2123:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) Unique IPC key is not defined
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Invalid argument)DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound d                                                 [/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]# aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
sysdefault:CARD=audiocodec
    audiocodec,
    Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=ahubhdmi
    ahubhdmi,
    Default Audio Device
[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]#
```

Before and after the root/.asoundrc

[mental slate]

Thx @oblique pulsar can you try again with this /root/.asoundrc pleaze ?

pcm.ddmix {
    type dmix
    ipc_key 1337
    ipc_key_add_uid true
    slave{
      pcm "hw:0,0"
      buffer_size 5440
      period_size 1088
    }
    rate 48000
    channels 2
}
pcm.!default {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "ddmix"
}

[oblique pulsar]

ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2115:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) Unknown field rate
ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2115:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) Unknown field rate
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Invalid argument)DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Invalid argument)[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]#

[mental slate]

my bad XD

Wrong section I used

pcm.ddmix {
    type dmix
    ipc_key 1337
    ipc_key_add_uid true
    slave{
      pcm "hw:0,0"
      buffer_size 5440
      period_size 1088
      rate 48000
      channels 2
    }
}
pcm.!default {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "ddmix"
}

at least the error messages from alsa are very clear 😄

I hope your rg35xx is not going to explode

[oblique pulsar]

ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2188:(_snd_pcm_direct_new) unable to create IPC semaphore
ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:2188:(_snd_pcm_direct_new) unable to create IPC semaphore
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Function not implemented)DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Function not implemented)[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]#

[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]# ipcs -l

kernel not configured for message queues

kernel not configured for shared memory

kernel not configured for semaphores

I broke sound last time haha

[mental slate]

oops

[oblique pulsar]

Its fine i have nothing on it

2 minute flash

[mental slate]

oh good idea

the ipcs -l

[oblique pulsar]

chatgpt baby

[mental slate]

I forgot about him

[oblique pulsar]

[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]# "/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test/sdltest"
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: sound device opened with id 2
DynOS_Sound_GetDevice: Could not open sound device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Device or resource busy)[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]#

is this better?

(i have no idea what im doing here)

[mental slate]

well it means that it cannot open a second stream. however no more error with semaphor ?

what does show aplay -L

[oblique pulsar]

[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]#  aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
sysdefault:CARD=audiocodec
    audiocodec,
    Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=ahubhdmi
    ahubhdmi,
    Default Audio Device
[/SDL_OpenAudioDevice_test]#```

[mental slate]

this is with the .asoundrc present ?

[oblique pulsar]

I have unbroken my audio

[oblique pulsar]

Yes

using dsp

    type plug
    slave {
        pcm "hw:0,0"
        rate 48000
        channels 2
    }
}

pcm.!default {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "dsp0"
}

[mental slate]

oh yes but it doesn't enable dmix (software mixing)

[oblique pulsar]

Okay lets ask chatgpt :p

[mental slate]

I looking at "kernel not configured for semaphores"

I don"t know it this means that the kernel hasn't been built with this feature, or a module is not loaded or idk

does find / -iname "*.ko" 2>/dev/null | grep ipc list something ?

[oblique pulsar]

No it doesnt

[mental slate]

I guess the kernel is build without IPC support

chatGPT suggestion:

The error message "kernel not configured for semaphores" typically indicates that the Linux kernel does not have support enabled for System V semaphores. System V semaphores are a type of inter-process communication mechanism in Unix-like operating systems.

To solve this issue, you generally need to do the following:

1. Check Kernel Configuration: Verify if System V IPC (Inter-Process Communication) support is enabled in your Linux kernel configuration. This support is typically enabled by default in most distributions, but it's possible that it might be disabled in custom or minimal installations.

2. Recompile Kernel (if necessary): If System V IPC support is not enabled in your current kernel, you may need to recompile your kernel with the appropriate configuration options enabled. This process involves modifying the kernel configuration file (config-* or .config file in the kernel source directory) and enabling the necessary options related to System V IPC.

3. Load Kernel Module (if applicable): Sometimes, System V IPC functionality can be loaded as a module rather than being compiled directly into the kernel. If this is the case, ensure that the relevant kernel module (ipcs, ipc_sem, etc.) is loaded. You can load a module using modprobe or insmod.

4. Restart and Test: After making any changes to kernel configuration or loading modules, it's often necessary to restart your system for the changes to take effect. Once restarted, try setting up your semaphore again and see if the error persists.

5. Consult Documentation: If you are using a specific distribution or a custom kernel, consult the documentation or community forums related to that distribution or kernel. They may provide specific instructions or additional details relevant to your setup.

By ensuring that your kernel has the appropriate support for System V semaphores, you should be able to resolve the "kernel not configured for semaphores" error and proceed with your semaphore setup on Linux.

[oblique pulsar]

lol

[mental slate]

🤣

you should have let the message 😄

it was funny

[oblique pulsar]

too late hahah

So it sounds like its a kernel limitation

Meaning 2 programs cant acces the driver at once, correct?

[mental slate]

yes, the audio device in muOS can only be used for one audio stream a the same time. two audio streams from two programs won't work as well as 4 streams from one program as it is the case with render96ex

got this in arkos on rg353vs:

ark@rg353v:~$ ./ipc-test
Semaphore test successful!

[oblique pulsar]

lol

[mental slate]

if you want to close the case 😄

(i asked chatgpt for the test program)

[oblique pulsar]

Just lost wifi one moment😄

muos connection refused

reboot i guess

[mental slate]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-oops-gif-18113744246722416205

don't forget to remove the /root/.asoundrc

[oblique pulsar]

semget: Function not implemented
[~]#

welp

[mental slate]

it means no system v ipc are available

no solution to enable dmix on muOS then

[oblique pulsar]

Shame :/

[mental slate]

the source code of the test program

[oblique pulsar]

I guess thats the end of the muos journey though😄

Wait for pipewire

[mental slate]

you could build the ipc module

it could be easy for the muOS team

they already have the building environment

[oblique pulsar]

Sure, but we need this to work for everyone, so the muos devs need to take action. Assuming this is not a regular config.

[mental slate]

@zenith mirage ==> anyway you can build the ipc module for the kernel used in muOS ? 😄

[mental slate]

right

[oblique pulsar]

How does building a cfw even work😄

Do you need a special env for it

[mental slate]

to build the kernel module I would "just" need the kernel .config that has been used during the build of the present kernel

well

also when the kernel has been build with the option it stores in /proc/config.gz the conf

but in minimal system that's not what we want

[zenith mirage]

Unfortunately not, kernel source was never provided by anbernic

[mental slate]

ohhhh it's a kernel from anbernic ! I didn't know

ok, all options are closed 😄

[oblique pulsar]

lol

[mental slate]

thanks @corey for this information

[zenith mirage]

Yeah, until we get on mainline anything kernel related is out of our hands, and we are stuck on 4.9.170 lol

[mental slate]

it's totally understanble 😄

then I'll stick to my plan to warn muOS user about this limitation during the installation of Render96ex

[zenith mirage]

Yeah, until we get pipewire implemented that's the best course of action I think. I'm super excited for this port! Lol

[mental slate]

thanks, I really hope you'll be able to enjoy it soon 😄

this is the warning displayed only when muOS CFW is detected

I hope this will limit the number of muOS users asking for help about this issue 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

was dynos always an option because last time i said no to everything and we got to the issue we have now.

[mental slate]

I remember a tester said that saying no to all optional packages let him run with muOS

I'll pack the testing-v3.6 maybe ?

what's your suggestion ?

[oblique pulsar]

Ill test it again real quick

[mental slate]

cool

• testing-v3.6
• fix typo in the installation script (thx ellis!)
• add a warning message for muOS users about the possible issues with the dynos audio pack.

here it is

let's finger cross 🤞

😄

[oblique pulsar]

Crap, yeah its doing the same thing again

DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device.

I dont have the audio pack installed

Is 3.6 different, functions wise? This is 3.5.

[mental slate]

It’s same bin

[oblique pulsar]

How did it work for someone else

Im confused

😄

[mental slate]

so am I

have you ever get it run on muOS since we're testing ?

[oblique pulsar]

Nope, only the splash

And i never installed the packages

[mental slate]

ok

[oblique pulsar]

Do you know who got it working?

Lets make sure

[mental slate]

I need to do some archeology here XD

[oblique pulsar]

lol

Worst case we exclude muos

You put way too much work into this😄

[mental slate]

I'm a perfectionnist 😄

[oblique pulsar]

Best curse to have ^^

[mental slate]

let me test something 😄

on arkos first

[oblique pulsar]

sure

[mental slate]

(disabling this dynos audio stuff in the source code)

[oblique pulsar]

Sounds like a good idea

[mental slate]

still work on arkOS without music

[oblique pulsar]

Exact same thing😬 \

Audiodevice[0]=audiocodec,
Audiodevice[1]=ahubhdmi,
FATAL ERROR:
DynOS_Music_GetDevice: Could not open music device. (ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Device or resource busy)

[mental slate]

that's crazy 😄

but thx for the test 😄

I wonder how it can try to open an audio device

[oblique pulsar]

🤷‍♂️

[mental slate]

and the dynos folder is empty ?

[oblique pulsar]

yeah i dont have a dynos folder

Does it not open any audio on your arkos

[mental slate]

yes but I think the code init the device, I'm trying another modification 🙂

if you can try this plz 😄

[oblique pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/celebrate-happy-you-did-it-oprah-winfrey-gif-16871108

[mental slate]

ok, let's build a version that works for other with audio pack now 😄

build done, testing arkos without audio pacl

without audio pack there is no sound when mario jump XD

but it runs...

can't do magic for muOS ^^

I'll pack the testing-v3.7

here it is

• testing-v3.7
• modify source code to avoid opening additional audio device when no dynos audio pack is installed (workaround for muOS that now can run the game but without the music and also without lot of SFX).

TL;DR: if you want to give a try:
download testing-v3.7
unzip it in roms/ports/
put your SM64 rom in roms/ports/render96ex with the name baserom.us.z64
run render96ex.sh

Note: if you are a muOS user don't install the dynos audio pack

[oblique pulsar]

Nice work man. I think this should be the final contender😄

[mental slate]

Now I need to work on this https://portmaster.games/packaging.html

^^

cloning my PortMaster-New fork locally. My SSD is gonna explode XD

[oblique pulsar]

It failed the first two times for me lol

[mental slate]

that's just few GB in fact

9.61 GB

[oblique pulsar]

If you need someone to check the port package feel free to send it to me

Ill go over it real quick

[mental slate]

thx Jan !

[mental slate]

@oblique pulsar
here is my port structure

- Creating render96ex.zip
 - Added render96ex/sm64.us.f3dex2e.aarch64
 - Added render96ex/bin.aarch64/text_viewer
 - Added render96ex/restool.zip
 - Added README.md
 - Added gameinfo.xml
 - Added render96ex/restool-msg.txt
 - Added port.json
 - Added render96ex/sm64.CC0-1.0.license
 - Added render96ex.sh
 - Added render96ex/cover.png
 - Added screenshot.png
 - Added render96ex/libs.aarch64/libdl.so.2
 - Added render96ex/RENDER96-HD-TEXTURE-PACK.GPL-3.0.license

I put cover.png in ports/render96ex/render96ex instead of ports/render96ex because the gameinfo.xml cover entry will be render96ex/cover.jpg

is that right or not ? 'cause the https://portmaster.games/packaging.html says the cover.jpg should be in ports/render96ex

[oblique pulsar]

Could you send the zip to me? Structure looks good to me

[mental slate]

let me build the zip

[oblique pulsar]

oh yeah i think cover should be one up

Doesnt matter ill go over the zip

[mental slate]

it's strange to me to have, the covers in PortMaster-New/ports/render96ex instead of PortMaster-New/ports/render96ex/render96ex when I see this in my port installation:

RK3566:~/roms/ports # ls */cover.*
Half-Life/cover.png          smw/cover.png
Wip/cover.png                soh/cover.jpg
ccleste/cover.png            sonic1/cover.png
chipndale/cover.png          sonic2/cover.png
doom3/cover.png              soniccd/cover.png
jazz2/cover.png              sorr/cover.png
openjazz/cover.png           spacecadetpinball/cover.png
pacman/cover.png             sstfe.bakcup/cover.png
prototype/cover.png          sstfe/cover.png
rvgl/cover.png               sstse/cover.png
sdlpop/cover.png             zelda/cover.png

[oblique pulsar]

It restructures the port while installing

Or when creating the zip

I dont know exactly how it works

[mental slate]

ok so I put cover.png in PortMaster-New/ports/render96ex and we're ready to PR ?

[mental slate]

indeed. it works this way.

@oblique pulsar here is the zip render96ex.zip 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

Okay im looking at the zip now

Oh lol

[mental slate]

I've updated the file on this link with the cover.png in the expected path

[oblique pulsar]

wasnt done one moment😄

Changes:

• Restructured all the portfiles
• Renamed to README.md
• Resized image to 640x480
• Compressed the images

Things to do:

• Make sure you make the readme (and other files for that matter) with the tools on the site.

Removed restool so i can send it here

[mental slate]

oh thank you

Should I rewrite the readme ?

[oblique pulsar]

https://portmaster.games/port-markdown.html

This makes sure the structure is always the same for every port

[mental slate]

ok

[oblique pulsar]

Just to be sure i would redo the port.json and xml too

[mental slate]

what is wrong in port.json and xml ?

[oblique pulsar]

Kloptops has an automatic full checklist for every pr but still

Did you make them with the generators on the site?

Because errors are easy to make when you edit one from another port

[mental slate]

I copied from another port and edited in Visual Studio

[oblique pulsar]

Just a tip, you dont have to if you think theyre correct

its just that one comma can be enough haha

[mental slate]

Visual Studio is nice to warn about the syntax error I know

but yeah, especially JSON is mean

not as mean as yaml

[oblique pulsar]

[mental slate]

when I read or write yaml I am always stressed 😄

[oblique pulsar]

Ive heared the stories here haha

[mental slate]

binary TLV is also fun

Type Length Value in raw 😄

[mental slate]

ok, I've rewrote the port.json, README.md and gameinfo.xml with the tools. Better be 100% sure 🙂

@oblique pulsar you want to check again or I can PR ?

[mental slate]

I think I'm gonna PR. In the worst case it is rejected 😄

PR #493 on the way !

[oblique pulsar]

Sorry man was afh

Well done

[woeful holly]

There's no sound with muOS yet?

Or is that just the pack?

[oblique pulsar]

Theres some sounds

Audio driver is limited on muos

Its like 80% of the sound? @mental slate

[mental slate]

I don't have a % but the game is sadly missing many sound effect on muOS 😦

sm64ex is maybe a better option to play a SM64 port on muOS

still I'm not even 100% sm64ex will run perfectly on muOS

[woeful holly]

I just tried to install this and I got this from the log.txt

Ressources are missing.
/mnt/sdcard/roms/05other/01PORTS/Super Mario 64 - Render96.sh: line 118: text_viewer: command not found
/mnt/sdcard/roms/05other/01PORTS/Super Mario 64 - Render96.sh: line 138: 27948 Killed $GPTOKEYB "sm64.us.f3dex2e.${DEVICE_ARCH}"
/mnt/sdcard/roms/05other/01PORTS/Super Mario 64 - Render96.sh: line 134: systemctl: command not found

[mental slate]

on muOS ?

[woeful holly]

Yeah

SP

Did I do something wrong? I installed it like most ports I have installed and I've got a lot running correctly

I'm looking at the pins but the link that's associated to it has been deleted when you click on it

[woeful holly]

This is what I downloaded

[mental slate]

oooooh, this is an incomplete archive

give me 1 min

[woeful holly]

You guys might want to adjust the pins as well I guess

[mental slate]

I'm waiting for my "developper" tag so that I can update the pins 😄

@woeful holly try this one please render96ex.zip (this is the release candidate)

crap the text_viewer has lost its executable flags 😭

@woeful holly ok, I have fixed the executables flags in this zip archive. You can download it to test

[woeful holly]

Thanks man I'll try it

[mental slate]

if you're on muOS don't answer yes when it asks to install the dynos audio pack

[woeful holly]

Yeah it's running now

Seems like some SFX are good but no music or Mario voices

Controls don't respond tho on my SP. Mario ducking like he scared

[mental slate]

try to configure in the option menu the control. In the game press Start, then R1

Here is some help until the port is validated: https://github.com/cdeletre/PortMaster-New/blob/main/ports/render96ex/README.md

I wonder if the SP has R1 and L1

oh yes it even has R2 and L2 !

[woeful holly]

It does

Dpad doesn't work tho

So can't move anything

[oblique pulsar]

@hazy crag could you give kotzebuedog a porter role? 🙂

[mental slate]

the game is design to work with analog stick but if you manually edit sm64config.txt you may get something

[woeful holly]

Okay thank you

[mental slate]

you need to find the dpad key code

used in SDL framework

[woeful holly]

Damn ok

I'll try to see if I can. I have a feeling some devs have it

[oblique pulsar]

Its not made for joystickless devices😄

[mental slate]

then in sm64config.txt i think you need to set key_stickup / key_stickdown / key_stickleft \ key_stickright

[mental slate]

@ellis played sm64 with a dpad I know

[oblique pulsar]

Thanks cebion😄

[woeful holly]

@oblique pulsar would you happen to have the SDL codes for the d-pad?

I'm learning on the fly. All of this stuff is very new to me

[oblique pulsar]

I dont, controller configs have always been a headache to me lol

[woeful holly]

So apologies for all the questions guys

Okay thanks

[oblique pulsar]

Just wondering, does this game have keyboard support?

[mental slate]

it has mouse support

[oblique pulsar]

But not wasd for movement?

[mental slate]

Now whaere do I zee the pinned mezagez zir ?

[oblique pulsar]

Huh

Right click a message and pin it?

[mental slate]

Yes but is there a way to see the list of already pinned messages?

I can scroll but..

[oblique pulsar]

Yeah top right

Pinned messages😄

[mental slate]

oh ny good, it was just in front of my eyes (in french we say under my noze lol)

[oblique pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/quaso-croissant-cat-french-gif-8533456335186036682

[mental slate]

right click on a message doesn't give me the option to pin it

maybe I must disconnect and reconnect

nope

But I'm proud, I am a port cadet now ! 🥹

a port cadet who made 3 additional commits after his PR because he missed few things...

and this is why we say in french

Jamais deux sans trois

[oblique pulsar]

My first pr wasnt great lol

I think cebion requested changes twice :p

And like 6 commits in total haha

[mental slate]

We learn by failling 🙂

[oblique pulsar]

I think maybe you need port engineer for pinning? Idk

[mental slate]

no sé

[oblique pulsar]

I dont get the roles tbh😄

You can now call the port navigators though for new ports

And i think you have access to the dev channels?

[mental slate]

While can you unpin every message here

[oblique pulsar]

Sure

[mental slate]

I'll made a new one with the release candidat

[oblique pulsar]

Aight go ahead 🙂

[mental slate]

OH - MY - GOD ! What do I see ? An hidden room for developper !!!! So coool ! Is there gaming arcade there ? 😄

[oblique pulsar]

[mental slate]

TL;DR;
At the moment this port has been submitted with pull request #493. If you want to install it manually:

1. download the last release candidate build of this port render96ex.zip
2. unzip it in roms/ports/
3. put your SM64 rom in roms/ports/render96ex with the name baserom.us.z64
4. run render96ex.sh
5. read README.md if needed

Also check ./render96ex/sm64.us.f3dex2e.aarch64 and ./render96ex/bin.aarch64/text_viewer have the executable flag (windows unzipping like to mess with this flag)

@oblique pulsar can you pin my last message pleaze ?

Ok my friend, swimming pool time for us here !

Have a great evening / day !

[oblique pulsar]

<@&1216123318122577972>

PR has been sent, but a couple tests doesnt hurt.

[mental slate]

Yessss beat me with other issues please

[wraith finch]

Will try it in a few hours

[mental slate]

Thanks Damian ! What's your baby model and which CFW are you using ? 🙂

[wraith finch]

Baby model, what is a baby model??

[mental slate]

the handheld

sorry for making you confused

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-cheese-kitty-cat-sorry-my-bad-gif-1026852287997442026

[wraith finch]

X55 and of course Rocknix

[mental slate]

nice ! I wonder how it will run @ 1280x760 and if it can handle it with the 3d model pack enabled (by default it is disabled)

Let me know when you have tested it ! 🙂

[wraith finch]

Im copying it over

[mental slate]

no hurry 🙂

[wraith finch]

Idk if it's running full speed but it runs

Okay i don't think its running full speed, some times its running a bit slowly

I have enabled all things that the tool wanted

And either im A little rusty or is the stair thing disabled

[mental slate]

try to disable 60fps in the option menu in the display section.It can help.
See details here README.md

[mental slate]

What is this stair thing in SM64 ?

[viral nebula]

If I had to guess is he talking about that one speed running thing where if you backwards long jump up that one starecase you can basically clip through the invisible barrier and get to the end of the game early?

[oblique pulsar]

Like that speedrun thing i think

[oblique pulsar]

this

[viral nebula]

I don't see why it'd be fixed unless render96 is based off the Japanese release where it was fixed

[oblique pulsar]

I mean maybe render96 isnt 100% accurate

Or damian is indeed a bit rusty 😉

[viral nebula]

that would be the funnier alternative

[mental slate]

Anyway, the port is US version base built

[viral nebula]

?? Tf i do lol I just suggested it

[oblique pulsar]

huh?

[mental slate]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-wth-confused-huh-what-gif-17289999

[wraith finch]

Yep, a blj, but i think it actually cause I can't hold the Controller like i would and last time i did some was like 1.5 years or something, and yeah in the settings under Cheats i think is a setting that called blj everytime so

[wraith finch]

Yep, i actually think i am

[mental slate]

I am more confortable at playing Mario Odyssey when it comes to having the control 😄

[teal verge]

Hey just came to say that I installed render96 today on my rg35xx-h through muos11 and it run and looks beautiful. It blew all my expectations!
I’m just wondering if music is going to be available for this version? Thanks for the amazing work

[fossil pendant]

Pretty sure we have to wait for muOS to have pipewire before that'll be a possibility

at least from my understanding

[mental slate]

Yes that’s it, it has been confirmed by Corey from the dev team of muOS. I have tried hard with the help of JanTrueno to get it working with the audio pack on muOS but with no success. Sorry my friends ! 🤟

[mental slate]

Thanks for the feedback Swdc! Happy that you’re getting satisfaction from it 🙂 I got a big help to get this port working smoothly from courageous testers such as @low jungle @oblique pulsar @upbeat garnet @last ridge @severe shell (sorry if I missed someone)

[wraith finch]

Yeah definitely, I played Mario Odyssey 4 times through

[limber moat]

Im impressed as well, game looks great, like a proper remaster on rg35xx h via muOS

[mental slate]

Yeah, the texture pack does a good job while keeping the spirit of the original SM64 game. I like as well the 3D model pack that can be enabled but I know that some SM64 fans feel that it changes too much the visual

I hope muOS users will get soon the update of the sound system to 100% enjoy this port ☺️

[signal cape]

Would it work on the Plus/SP too or the analogue sticks are necessary?

[mental slate]

The game will run but I don’t know if you can really success with a DPAD on SM64. @low jungle says it is possible though.

[low jungle]

For non-coop sm64 ports it’s doable (R33S and RG28XX running regular sm64ex) but it’s a chore to remap and quite a mediocre experience

I needed to connect a keyboard temporarily to remap properly

[mental slate]

https://tenor.com/view/he-dicho-caso-cerrado-juez-mazo-mallete-gif-16071884

[tardy wharf]

I can't get this port to run

I downloaded the zip file in the pinned comment, renamed a usa rom of sm64 to baserom.us.z64, did everything but it still gives me error when trying to install it

[mental slate]

Hi @tardy wharf

[tardy wharf]

Hi

[mental slate]

What is the error my friend?

[tardy wharf]

There are two

[mental slate]

Let’s start with the first one 😉

[tardy wharf]

Ok 1 second

Im running the .sh file again to see the error

[mental slate]

You can also share the log.txt if you can

[tardy wharf]

I managed to install it but now whenever I run it the sm64 logo appears as well as the render96 logo, mario says "It's a me mario" and then the game exits out

[mental slate]

Are you using muOS ?

[tardy wharf]

Yep

[mental slate]

Have you chosen to install the audio pack ?

[tardy wharf]

I have

I clicked yes on all of the options

Was that what I was supposed to do?

[mental slate]

At the moment there is a limitation on muOS which makes the game to crash when the audio pack is installed

You have two options

Rename render96ex/dynos/audio to render96ex/dynos/audio.disabled (it’s an exemple) or restart the installation process and answer no for the audio pack

MuOS is supposed to be updated soon and it should fix this issue

[tardy wharf]

Just a question: Does saying no to the audio pack disable sound entirely on the game? Also, do I install the rest of the optional things? I don't really know what they mean

[mental slate]

You can find details here https://github.com/PortsMaster/PortMaster-New/blob/main/ports/render96ex/README.md about what are the packs

[tardy wharf]

Ok thanks

[mental slate]

Sadly without the audio pack music and lot of sounds will be missing (Mario voices especially)

[tardy wharf]

If I install the other two packs will I have any problem?

[mental slate]

It should be ok

[tardy wharf]

That's sad

[tardy wharf]

I hope so

[mental slate]

Yes we’ve dig deep to try to find a workaround but it is a dead end atm

The only workaround is to rewrite the audio engine of the game and I wasn’t ready for it 😅

It would take more time than just wait for the muOS update

[tardy wharf]

Yeah that's too much work

If i click no for the audio pack during the installation now, will it be possible to turn it on in the future when muOS updates?

[mental slate]

Actually I had to modify the audio engine a bit so that you can at least run it on muOS without the pack. Originally even without the pack it crashed

[tardy wharf]

Well thank you

[mental slate]

Best strategy if you plan to use it in the future is to install the pack but rename the folder “audio” that is in “dynos” (in the game folder) to “audio.something”. That will disable the audio pack

Then when you want to enable it you rename it back to “audio”

So that no need to reinstall the whole game

Read carefully the README.md there are precious information in there

Don’t hesitate to share your experience on this port ☺️

[signal cape]

I played the sm64 port on the RG280V and it wasn't bad.

[mental slate]

You mean the sm64ex https://github.com/sm64pc/sm64ex ?

[signal cape]

No, the original sm64 port: https://retrogamecorps.com/2020/10/26/super-mario-64-port-for-rg350-devices/

The RG280V doesn't have analogue sticks

[mental slate]

Yes I see that. But it’s very pocketable 😎

Almost swatch pocketable 😅

[signal cape]

I still love it, but now i'm using the 35XX SP as my device to bring on the bus commuting to work

[woeful holly]

I tried to get the controls to work. I was told it will once muos has analog to dpad swapping with the power button.

Need the SDL codes for the dpad

Sm64config.txt needs to be edited with those to have it work on the SP

[mental slate]

So you did it ? 🙂

[woeful holly]

I don't know the codes

[mental slate]

Ok i thought you got the codes. I don’t have the solution yet for you but I can try to work on it

[torpid frost]

Doesn't open on TrimUI Smart Pro CrossMix. I compared the SHA1 checksum before renaming the rom file. Log.txt shows:

Segmentation fault
Ressources are missing.
Segmentation fault
bash: you need to specify whom to kill
./render96ex.sh: line 76: systemctl: not found

[mental slate]

Hi @torpid frost I’m not sure that CrossMix is officially supported by Postmaster. I can still have a quick look at the log to try help you but please share the full log.

[torpid frost]

On the portmaster site has it listed as: "TrimUI Smart Pro: All Firmwares". Anyways above is the full contents of the log.txt file. I can ssh and run it directly and this is the output :

root@TinaLinux:/mnt/SDCARD/Roms/PORTS# ./render96ex.sh
./render96ex.sh: /mnt/SDCARD/Apps/PortMaster/PortMaster/device_info.txt: line 133: lscpu: not found
# TrimUI Smart Pro - TrimUI
```bash
DEVICE_INFO_VERSION=0.1.9
PM_VERSION=2024.07.01-1139
CFW_NAME=TrimUI
CFW_VERSION=1.0.4
DEVICE_NAME=TrimUI Smart Pro
DEVICE_CPU=a133plus
DEVICE_ARCH=aarch64
DEVICE_RAM=1
DEVICE_HAS_ARMHF="N"
DEVICE_HAS_AARCH64="Y"
DEVICE_HAS_X86="N"
DEVICE_HAS_X86_64="N"
DISPLAY_WIDTH=1280
DISPLAY_HEIGHT=720
ASPECT_X=16
ASPECT_Y=9
DISPLAY_ORIENTATION=0
ANALOG_STICKS=2
```
current_mode 1280x720
MALI_CreateWindow:0x55716fa540 done.
Segmentation fault
Ressources are missing.
Segmentation fault
bash: you need to specify whom to kill
./render96ex.sh: line 76: systemctl: not found
root@TinaLinux:/mnt/SDCARD/Roms/PORTS#

[mental slate]

The log.txt only contains 6 lines ?

It’s night time here so we can continue this next day for me ☺️

[torpid frost]

Yep. No worries, I am going to come back to this next week

[small sleet]

starts from the terminal but not emulationstation menu on amberelec. wierd?!
any ideas what could be the cause?

[mental slate]

Hi @small sleet What happens exactly when you start from ES ? Is there log?

[oblique pulsar]

Weird, i tested it on amber

I am running a version from january i think

Maybe some update changed it

[mental slate]

Jan, can you please check with amber when you've got some time ?

[oblique pulsar]

Sure

[mental slate]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-byebear-cute-bye-wave-gif-344809869674681480

[oblique pulsar]

Still works with the new package on amber/r36

version 20230203😅

odroid-go3 version of amberelec on r36

[mental slate]

@small sleet is your CFW updated with the last version ?

[mental slate]

Hi matrioshka. Can you connect with ssh to your handheld and run sdljoytest ? then press dpad up/down/left/right and copy the output here 🙂

[woeful holly]

These controls work for me for the SP

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CaT0j5Wj6HnYNgJn6Fva7aFpkNA8ZSi3/view?usp=drivesdk

[oblique pulsar]

Look at that

Perfect

[woeful holly]

Would this count as a contribution? Loll

[oblique pulsar]

@mental slate

[mental slate]

Thanks @woeful holly

[woeful holly]

My pleasure man. Feels good to be able to help

[mental slate]

Were you able to setup this in the menu directly or you had to edit it in the sm64config.txt ?

[woeful holly]

I looked at the config and looked at the menu and kind of figured it out from there.

Your message just triggered me to look at it. If I had seen it earlier I probably would have gotten it earlier when I was asking about it lol

I had to edit the menu and go back into the game and go back and forth because if you bind the d-pad as the analog in the first row of the three rows of binds, the game will crash and won't start back until they are removed

There was also some conflicts going on with the Z-Trigger which is why Mario was stuck in the crawling state

I guess as soon as they figure out the audio, this port will be working perfectly

[mental slate]

Good job ! I was trying to get something for dpad user with my rh353vs but it’s hard to test as even without joystick setup the game is using them 😅

[woeful holly]

Just glad it's figured out and now everybody can play it on their SP

[mental slate]

You deserve credits for the SP part ☺️

I wonder if you config also works for rg35xx non sp

[mental slate]

@woeful holly when you've got the time, can you please detail the mapping you have. I got that DPAD is for movement. How have you mapped the other actions (https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Super_Mario_64/Controls). I don't need of course the combinations like Long Jump, Slide Kick...

Also, in the lounge someone (see #☕｜lounge message) suggested for dpad only handheld to use L1 and R1 for "Rotate/Center camera" (key_cleft and key_cright). I was thinking that X and Y could also be mapped to "Zoom In/Zoom Out" (key_cup and key_down). If you configure the camera as "Free camera Enabled" + "Analogue camera Disabled" in the option menu you get something that might be interesting. L2 can be used to duck (key_z) and R2 for Camera mode (key_r). What do you think? Can you get a working configuration like this with your SP ? (maybe this is what you did, waiting for your mapping details ^^)

[woeful holly]

You can map it easily by going into the options and changing the controls because the d-pad is working so you can customize it to whatever you need

[mental slate]

It’s just that I don’t have an rg35xx

But I’ll see with @hybrid canyon to dig his idea

Thanks mate !

[mental slate]

@hybrid canyon based on your suggestion. The walking thing is not possible still. However I have tested a similar configuration with my rg353vs and playing with dpad seems more comfortable.

Use L1 and R1 for "Rotate/Center camera" (key_cleft and key_cright).
Use X and Y to "Zoom In/Zoom Out" (key_cup and key_down)
L2 can be used to duck (key_z) and R2 for Camera mode (key_r).
Configure the camera as "Free camera Enabled" + "Analogue camera Disabled" in the option menu

[small sleet]

ignore my stupidity! i just spotted an error in my gamelist.xml file. apologies!

(i think the .sh file name changed between testing and release, which threw me 😜 )

[woeful holly]

@mental slate I'm just out with the lady ATM. I can do it for you tonight or tmrw for sure

[mental slate]

We are not in hurry. This can wait. Enjoy the time with people irl! ☺️

[mental slate]

Yes my fault! Happy for you that you solved it

[mental slate]

You’re not stupid, you even found the issue by yourself ☺️

[hazy nexus]

Can I limit framerate somehow?

I need a framecap.

[mental slate]

what do you mean Jeod ?

have you disabled 60 fps and the game is running too fast ?

[hazy nexus]

On rg552 the framerate is too fast at times

Yeah

I disabled 60fps because it caused slowdowns

The optimal is 30 I think

Harkinian had the same issue

[mental slate]

From my experience, when you disable 60 fps it takes 5 to 10 secondes to get the 30 fps stable

on rg353vs

[hazy nexus]

It's worst in the castle hub.

In levels seems fine.

[mental slate]

does the vsync change something ?

[hazy nexus]

vsync just forces it to be too fast

With vsync and 60fps off it's a stable fps probably 80% of the time

[mental slate]

are you with rocknix ?

[hazy nexus]

Again the issue is only in the hub, and on amberelec.

[mental slate]

ok

[hazy nexus]

vsync is the solution in worlds

Castle hub is the only one that's noticeable.

[mental slate]

even after waiting 10 seconds it is still too fast in the castle hub ?

[hazy nexus]

Sometimes

Turned the model pack off and no further issues.

[mental slate]

It's a tricky issue, I already had to fix the code to get the 30 fps working

[mental slate]

oh

[hazy nexus]

Surprising since rg552 has the most ram

[mental slate]

so without 3d model pack , it runs fine in the castle hub ?

[hazy nexus]

I'll let you know in a few :p

[mental slate]

Here is the ugly "patch" I have done 5b2b30f to get 30 fps running at 30 fps

I thing that SDL_GL_SetSwapInterval doesn't work in our portmaster environment

[hazy nexus]

Huh, it's fine now.

[mental slate]

timer sync is imperfect

[hazy nexus]

Yeah seems it takes a while to find its groove.

[mental slate]

Have you fix the issue in harkinian ?

[hazy nexus]

In harkinian, imgui allows us to set the framerate target

Target of 20-30 was best

[mental slate]

oh ok, I had no idea it has this feature

I still have to try 2ship2, you were to fast at porting it

I even had not the time to install it XD

[woeful holly]

Works great on SP

[hazy nexus]

Ok after some fiddling it almost seems like using the model pack disabled vsync and just has the game running whatever frames it can generate.

[mental slate]

thanks for testing. I'll see if I find something in the dynos part of the code.

@hazy nexus is amberelec on panfrost or libmali gpu driver ?

[hazy nexus]

Mali afaik

[mental slate]

ok 👍

[hazy nexus]

Is there a setting for instant turn instead of this circular stuff?

[mental slate]

I'm lost, what circular stuff are you talking about ?

[hazy nexus]

Mario turns in a small circle instead of changing direction on the spot.

[mental slate]

Honnestly I have no idea. I don't know SM64 that much and I even haven't noticed something unusual when running with mario

let me show how he behaves here 🙂

[hazy nexus]

It's a normal movement for n64, he turns in a small circle. Was wondering if there was some hack or cheat to make it more accurate turning.

[mental slate]

oh ok. Well, there is a bunch of cheats available in the option menu but not sure there is one for this

[woeful holly]

Do you mean the instant turn with the jump?

[hazy nexus]

I guess? It's always been tough to maneuver tight spaces, I usually accidentally fall off of ledges lol

[woeful holly]

No jump but instant turn isn't it?

[hazy nexus]

Not the same as zero-point turns.

[mental slate]

I need volunteers to test an update of renderex96. Changes are:

• a unique gamepad configuration compatible with 2-sticks/1-stick/dpad devices
• disabling audio pack by default for muOS user
• update in README.md

Who's in ? 😄

[mental slate]

Here is the build https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ3eHe0ZPayzgel2CUy86SP1PkwWYShViLfX

thank you guys !

[leaden fossil]

I have just recently started playing render96. I think it's huge run on my x55. Also I was surprised to find out rumble works when I hook up a ps4 controller!

[mental slate]

Yeah the rumble surprised me too 😅

[severe shell]

I just realized that rumble is not working on RGB30 with a rumble motor added and enabled.

...and that the resolution options were never implemented/fixed

[severe shell]

Controls are fine, though

[mental slate]

I’ll see with 2nd priority if I can get rgb30 display resolution to work 😊

Thank you for testing

[mental slate]

Rumbling is implemented through sdl2. I have no idea why it’s not working on rgb30

[oblique pulsar]

The rgb30 doesnt come with a rumble motor from the factory?

Did you mod it or something

[mental slate]

MuOS update : https://muos.dev/release/plush/2405.2

[severe shell]

I does not come with it, but has the pads on the PCB. I added motors using Christian's instructions on the Wiki FAQ

[oblique pulsar]

Cool

[mental slate]

Can you share please

The wiki link

[severe shell]

https://github.com/christianhaitian/arkos/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions---RGB30#q-how-do-i-add-and-enable-a-rumble-vibration-motor-to-my-unit

[mental slate]

I don’t see a sign of audio driver update 🥲

[mental slate]

I’ll have a look

[oblique pulsar]

I was testing on this image already

Audio updates will come sooner or later😄

[mental slate]

In banana?

[oblique pulsar]

Maybe? Hopefully?

[mental slate]

Banana is not for tomorrow if I understand the strategy

[oblique pulsar]

Probably in a couple months

[mental slate]

In sm64config.txt is the rumble parameter set to 50 ?

[severe shell]

It was. But I'm testing the other systems that had rumble and they're not working now either. I'm checking in the other server to see if anyone can confirm rumble broke

[mental slate]

Have you tested again in emulestation ?

[severe shell]

Yeah. Both pcsx_rearmed_rumble and swanstation are not causing rumble now

[mental slate]

Well so that’s something outside of sdl2 and render96ex I guess

[severe shell]

Ah. Sleep mode kills it. I had to restart and re-enable it to get it to respond

It should rumble when long jumping into a wall, right?

[mental slate]

Jump then duck makes it rumble

[mental slate]

Can’t say but that’s possible

[severe shell]

Yeah, no rumble from ground-pound

I have the setting at 100 now