#(EN/中) What should we do to this? 💔 对刷分说不！

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fervent cradle
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As many have recently observed, the Potential-Ranking-List shows the top Bots (9 out of the top 10 on the 04/14 list) :

  • Creator is anonymous;
  • Under the creator, there is only one Bot;
  • Empty Prompt; (can be determined through chat testing)
  • The Bot's name, description, or language by Chinese;
  • The Bot is published on the day;
  • On the first day of publish, these poor quantity Bot only has no more than 5 badges;
  • On the second day, the Bot scores between 20K-50K on the Potential-Ranking-List;
  • After the Potential-Ranking-List is released at UTC+8 00:00, the Bot stops scoring.

Clearly, some users (referred "scientists") who understand the platform's rules have targeted this. Because:

  • If it were driven by investors alone, each could only contribute 2000 Points, with a total cap of 10K. Obviously, more "non-investors" participated in the Bot's chat to support a score output more than five times higher.
  • However, the quality of Bots is very poor, and it is impossible to attract non-investor chats with the Bot's own capabilities.
  • At the same time, the actions of the Bots are uniform; as soon as the leaderboard is released, they stop and turn to a new round of "hunting."

The impact of this continues:

  • Points is swept away by these low-quality Bots, reducing the earnings of valueable creator Bots, which in turn leads to a lack of confidence in these creators.
  • Low-quality Bots trap other investors after ranking.

##04/14 00:00 UTC+8

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What can be done:

  • As MyShell: Block the scores of these low-quality Bots;
  • As investors:
    • If you have surplus Coins, invest in the Bot as soon as it is released, even if it seems too poor quanlity to do nothing. It may still bring you unexpected returns. Every badge you purchase will reduce the profits of the score manipulators.
    • Never buy a Bot after it has entered the potential list, because by then the "scientists" have already stopped, and you will no longer make a profit.
  • As ordinary chat users, if you are not investing, never try to chat with such Bots and never contribute scores for the manipulators.
  • As creators: Continue to create excellent Bots for ordinary users to chat with.
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What should we do to this? 💔 （对刷分说不！）

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如最近大家看到的，最近的排行的潜力榜，位于榜首的Bots大部分（04/14榜首的10个占据了9个），同时符合以下规则：

  • 创作者匿名；
  • 创作者下面只有1个Bot;
  • 空Prompt；（可以通过聊天测试得出答案）
  • Bot 名称、简介、语言至少有一个是中文；
  • Bot 在当天发布；
  • Bot 在发布的第1天，徽章数量在5个；
  • Bot 在第2天的潜力榜分数在20K-50K；
  • Bot 在UTC+8 00:00 排行榜发布后，停止分数增长。

很明显，这是被一部分了解平台规则的用户（下文称之为“科学家”）盯上了，因为：

  1. 如果只是投资者驱动Bots，每个投资者贡献的额度只能有2000 Points，总产出的上限是10K。显而易见，有更多的“非投资者”参与到了Bot的聊天，才能撑起5倍以上的积分产出。
    但Bots质量非常差，靠Bot本身的能力不可能吸引非投资者聊天。
  2. 同时，Bots的行动整齐划一，一旦排行榜发布，就停止行动，转向新的一轮“狩猎”。

这么下去的影响：

  1. 散户流量都被这部分质量差的Bots卷走，真实的创作者Bots收益变少，继而导致创作者的创作信心不足。
  2. 低质量Bots上榜后，套牢其他投资人。

大家能做什么：

  1. 作为项目方：封杀这部分低质量Bots的分数；
  2. 作为投资者：
    2.1 如果你有富余的资产，在Bot发布后尽快进行投资，即使它看起来什么都不能做。或许它会给你带来意想不到的收益。你购买的每一个徽章，都会降低刷子的收益。
    2.2 永远不要在Bot上了潜力排行榜之后再去购买它们，因为那时候科学家们早已停止行动，你将不再获得收益。
  3. 作为普通的聊天用户，如果你没有投资，永远不要尝试去和这种Bot聊天，永远不要为刷子们贡献分数。
  4. 作为创作者：对项目方保持信息，持续创作优秀的Bot，供普通用户聊天。
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同时，还有一个有趣的猜想提供给项目方，警惕KOL。

  1. 如果这场游戏中还存在另外一个角色：那就是和科学家们沟通的“KOL”。
  2. 这部分KOL是最了解平台规则，并且手上有科学家资源的人（甚至自己是科学家？）。
  3. 他们会和科学家们取得沟通，提前布局徽章让自己的利益也最大化。
tropic zinc
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支持！说的好！分析的透彻！

sharp field
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刚100+买了潜力榜的botSU_catcry

fervent cradle
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tropic zinc
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不给刷子传授技巧了。

fervent cradle
fervent cradle
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(EN/中) What should we do to this? 💔 （对刷分说不！）

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(EN/中) What should we do to this? 💔 对刷分说不！

candid belfry
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so 打内...

tropic zinc
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专治只刷一天就下架的

olive temple
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刷的太多了。一次几万分。

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搞的其他人的bot没人关注了

bronze gyro
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fervent cradle
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Its Intro Message even only has 2 letters. Even my 5-year-old daughter knows capitalize the first letter and add punctuation.

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dull tiger
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fervent cradle
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I think it is necessary to update the ranking every day.

04/15 00:00 UTC+8

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dull tiger
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If these cheaters get caught does myshell ban them? And then take back the points?

The points should be redistributed to real creators somehow if possible.

bronze gyro
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Is reported to the team.

tropic zinc
serene bone
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DAMN TOP 3?

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Hes under me surprisedpika

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That bot will 100% get zapped

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Since coreteam seems to be inactive this might be a quick fix, might get fixed permanently in some hours when they come back

civic star
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@graceful trail has any team reaction?

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Some community member feel bad for this

fervent cradle