✍🏻｜creator-only

[grim patio]

that name's much more fitting

from what I crudely understand of physics that is

[tired wolf]

With enough knowledge in Relativity, you would know that time, space, energy and matter are tied together. Essentially, they are like faces of a dice, properties of the same being.

[grim patio]

nods

[tired wolf]

It lacks a very important thing though: the beginning of time

[grim patio]

right

[tired wolf]

So you see, at the start there was no matter. Which also means no time, no space, no gravity…because those are properties of matter

[grim patio]

Righttt

[tired wolf]

And from that point, going back in “time” or whatever it was, you would get the most accurate representation of the pale

The absolute nothingness

[grim patio]

a bit confused

but pale is

albeit strangely so

still spatial right

[tired wolf]

I mean…Idk about the game, but with my understanding it is spatial, but not in the old familiar 3-D space we think of

[grim patio]

right

thinks

[tired wolf]

I will give you one trick to understanding its spatial quality, but let me finish my cream puff first

[grim patio]

right

take ur time

https://tenor.com/view/cute-baby-gif-20725962

Ohhh also

the fact that the number barrier and such exists

implying that pale not being homogeneous

also absolutely baffles me

[tired wolf]

It would make no sense if it’s homogeneous

You see, it’s not a solid barrier where one side you have numbers, the other you don’t

It’s more like you have something bleeding into nothing

[grim patio]

but how is it absolute nothingness

yea

thinks

so in that light

pale itself isn't nothingness

what pale leads to is

supposedly?

[tired wolf]

No no no, let me describe it this way

[grim patio]

right

[tired wolf]

Imagine you have a body of water, and in the middle you put a small island of sand

Around the island, the sand would be washed out and scattered nearby, right?

[grim patio]

right

[tired wolf]

Like at 0km from the sand, you have 100% sand. 1km - 90% sand. 15km - 50% sand. 5000km - 1% sand. 100 000km - 0.0000001% sand, at which we would call it a “border”

[grim patio]

Ohhhhhh okay

okay

[tired wolf]

It’s a border because after that point, mathematically, the “sand” existence no longer significant enough

[grim patio]

that explains too why pale is still comewhat spacial

spatial

because it's not pure nothingness where it can be travelled through

still a blending of the two

[tired wolf]

Yes, it’s call a gradient, wether in math or Physics

[grim patio]

that's so fascinating

[tired wolf]

Okay now onto the trick to understand the spatial quality of the pale

[grim patio]

uh huh?

[tired wolf]

They “travel” through it, they put “borders” around it, so that may trick you into thinking the pale is a “space.” But it’s not.

Because “space” is matter exclusive, and the pale is not matter

[grim patio]

right

[grim patio]

tsk they dirty!

they bad!

no one tricks dryad Nilin

[tired wolf]

Consider 2 isolas: A and B. Somehow, you “travel” from A to B. It doesn’t necessarily mean that you literally go through every points between A and B, especially when there is no “point” in the pale

[grim patio]

right

[tired wolf]

All you know is that, A has a border around it where “matter” stops. B also has a border around it where “matter” stops. Someway, somehow, you go to the border of A, you do some weird shiet and hope for the best, then you end up at B

[grim patio]

that's rather unsettling

shivers

[tired wolf]

The things that is definable, the A, the B, the border, the places where you can still know, is NOT the pale

[grim patio]

wait so where I was tricked

[tired wolf]

That is how you define the spatial quality of the pale. By defining the things it is NOT.

[grim patio]

was that they use the term pale loosely

they also call the transition between matter and nothing pale

but in reality nothingness is the thing that should be defined

[tired wolf]

I mean, you call the coast “sea”, when it’s more 50% sand 50% water than 100% water, right?

So in a way it’s not wrong to call the 50% nothingness “the pale”

[grim patio]

right

okay I guess that makes sense

laughs

[tired wolf]

You know the SPC that is “not a square” or shiet, right?

That is how you describe the pale.

You describe the things it is not

[grim patio]

OHhh that

lmao

[tired wolf]

“Where is the pale?”
“I can’t tell you where, but I can tell you where it is not.”

[grim patio]

wait but that

that is a bit different

not a square is more cognitive than this

supposedly?

[tired wolf]

Well yes, because it exists

The pale doesn’t exist

Still the methodology is the same

[grim patio]

nods

okay I think I understand it now

thinks

there's still something weird tho

if pale

well if the pure pale

is absolute nothingness

why would they hypothesize that

after pale consumes all

matter will come into being again?

is that where it's different from our world?

or it's just that their theory is fuced

[tired wolf]

Hmm…I know a similar theory in physics related to entropy, let me google it real quick. But no no, it makes sense

[grim patio]

Ohhh if it's entropy then it makes sense

but pale is not entropy nor closedly related right

[tired wolf]

Ah well I couldn’t google it, it was too academic. But it’s related to “the ultimate fate of the universe” theories

[grim patio]

nods

I think I've read it somewhere

I'll say and you can see if it's that one

so they have different predictions about what's gonna happened after the supposed heat death

one is that it stays as it is

another hypothesized that locally

it's possible that entropy can in some manner decrease

therefore "matter" in our sense would surge for a period

is that it?

[tired wolf]

…er, no, that seems to be lacking too much concrete basis

[grim patio]

confused

saddened

[tired wolf]

But anyway, the pale doesn’t consume, it dilutes

[grim patio]

right

[tired wolf]

Water doesn’t consume sand, right? It brings the sand somewhere along the flow

[grim patio]

nods

[rigid swan]

Wtf girls, do you now write scp articles in here?

[grim patio]

so reality gets diluted into nothingness

[tired wolf]

And one day, the sand will meet in one space again, creating a new island again

[grim patio]

and up to a point where it's proportion no longer matters

it becomes

yea

[tired wolf]

One day, matter will comes together in one space again, creating a new isola

[grim patio]

OHHHHH this is where

entropy comes in

because that's like a high entropy situation

where sand comes together?

[grim patio]

yes we are

we have collaborated in 20+ scp articles in fact

[rigid swan]

Oh boy...

[grim patio]

I'm her editor

[tired wolf]

I honestly would rather not bring overcomplicated Physics models into where they are not extremely necessary, but essentially yeah

[grim patio]

nods

okay i guess even if we just use sand as an example it still makes sense

without bringing any stuff in

thank you luc

[tired wolf]

Yeah, it’s more intuitive too

[grim patio]

ur the best

I've been very interested in physics since I was lil but I was nontheless more into humanities

but still finds it very fascinating

would it bother you if I ask stuff like this

[tired wolf]

😅 I like these types of things but next time we should make a thread

To not scare other creators away

[grim patio]

so true

[tired wolf]

Like @rigid swan lol

[grim patio]

let's tell them we are writing scp then

hi folks this is an scp article

about how the world in Disco Elysium works

[tired wolf]

We are actually doctors at SCP organization discussing new anomaly

[grim patio]

yep

we found out that DE is an actual parallel universe

wait how to

[rigid swan]

Girls...

A species i can't understand till now.

[grim patio]

frankly stereotypically

what we are talking about are more like

field of guys

:>>>

[rigid swan]

Meh... might be right. I mean i love reading or listening scp articles too.

Than... to be frankly... we are all weird and different.

[tired wolf]

I mean it’s literally a mix of Physics and sci-fi

…which is sci-fi

[rigid swan]

I was more like how long and excessive you talk about it, even my fingers hurt by seeing it.

[grim patio]

awww

get used to girls then

😉

[tired wolf]

You should see the SCP forum

[grim patio]

true they made paragraphs after paragraphs

[rigid swan]

My gf doesn't talk so much.
But yeah, i might need to try talking with girls more... All my friends are boys.

[rigid swan]

I saw it and i heard it, i even follow scp articles podcasts on Spotify

[tired wolf]

…you may one day discover a topic your gf spends hours talking about

[grim patio]

and that is a beautiful experience trust me Sparc

[rigid swan]

Hm... i wished it would be like that. But she is not the kind of person to get into this stuff. 😅

I am at least happy that she likes gaming and being and otaku like me.

[tired wolf]

Just a random topic. Who knows, like makeup or smt

[tired wolf]

Bet she is a fujoshi

[rigid swan]

Nop, she reads normal straight sexy mangas.

I read the yaoi stuff.

[grim patio]

wow

first time I've seen

wait

Sparc are you straight or bi

[rigid swan]

Bi

[grim patio]

Ohhhh

I was like

do straight males read Yaoi!?

ahahha

[tired wolf]

I think yes tbh

[grim patio]

baffled

I mean ofc statistically yes

[tired wolf]

I roleplay lesbians so…

[grim patio]

but you are bi right

[tired wolf]

No I am strictly hetero-romantic

[grim patio]

WUT

what did I see on twitter

a moment

[tired wolf]

Fictosexual (bi)?

[grim patio]

ohh

heteroromantic

(facepalm

idk why I thought I saw biromantic

[grim patio]

Ohhh this

no wonder

ahahhahah

[tired wolf]

From my one post about god rolling a d20

[grim patio]

right

do you know that

I just found it and it's kinda funny

Fictosexual in mandarin is literally

papersexual

[upper jacinth]

[grim patio]

because fictional characters are called paper characters insinuating they are 2-d

[tired wolf]

I wonder if there is that word in Vietnamese…

[grim patio]

ohh

紙片人

paper/piece/human

is that a word in vietnamese?

[tired wolf]

Update: nope. As expected of my language

[grim patio]

awww

[tired wolf]

The word for nonbinary and asexual is the same, so I don’t expect much tbh

[grim patio]

wait

confused

like

even modern Vietnamese don't have words for them?

[tired wolf]

Nope

[grim patio]

that's kinda saddening

NOOOOOO

[tired wolf]

The lgbt community simply use English terms

[grim patio]

I'd be an abomination in Vietnamese then

[tired wolf]

Most Vietnamese wouldn’t be able to comprehend my asexuality tbh

So yeah

[grim patio]

pats

[tired wolf]

Actually it’s fairly comfy being a sex-indifferent/ sex-favorable ace in Vietnamese

You know, the culture of “no sex until marriage”?

[grim patio]

Ohhh?

Ohh that

blehhhh

true

that's so annoying

funny thing

my sisters like

[tired wolf]

So yeah, aces like me are seen like role models

[grim patio]

next life I'd be a fucin porn star

laughs

I'm like GO SIS

FUC EM ALL

[tired wolf]

“Why wait?”

[grim patio]

OHhh

I should tell her that

true

[grim patio]

lmao

[rigid swan]

Like the entire lgbtq community, that still don't like to believe that asexuality's is a thing.

I have two friends that are also Asexual.

[grim patio]

wait

confused

do you mean the community don't believe

or those ppl don't

[tired wolf]

@rigid swan you are still not verified? XD

[grim patio]

WOW

I forgot what this is even

what does verification do

[tired wolf]

For some channels like #🍀｜explorer-faqs

I think…

[grim patio]

lmao

[tired wolf]

Like most of the people in the lgbt community are ignorant of aces, yeah

[grim patio]

WUTTT

THEY BAD

THEY BAD!!!!!

[tired wolf]

I mean, you would normally see words like bisexual, homosexual, something-sexual right?

[grim patio]

right

[tired wolf]

So of course the default is “who would you seggs?”

…as for aces…

[grim patio]

awww

poor aces

[tired wolf]

We are mostly defined by the something-romantic, but they would be seen as the same as something-sexual anyway

[grim patio]

right

what's the proportion of aro

in ace

[tired wolf]

Idk tbh, I am not that active in lgbt communities, including the aro-ace

[grim patio]

ahahha same

I'm like

never really IN the community

[tired wolf]

“You exist and you are like me? Cool! Anyway,…”

[grim patio]

bwahahhah

that's kinda healthy tbh

[grim patio]

if all are like this including straight hetero

[rigid swan]

I mean, I was like the community and didn't get it how people can be A. Till my friends told me more about it. And till today I am still kinda confused about all the trans rules, but that I was reached too by my friends.

Having people to talk to that are more open and don't want just to argue makes it easier to understand each other.

For me... Booty is Booty. I don't care about what gender or sexuality my partner has.

[tired wolf]

Such a pan thing to say tbh

[grim patio]

HOW HORNY

[grim patio]

wait by how ppl can be A you mean

a lil confused

[rigid swan]

I thought I was pan for a long time... Now I am just confused by what is what...

[tired wolf]

A = ace

[grim patio]

Ohh nono

like

I was confused by how

not like

how people can be A

but what's the matter about how people can be A

[rigid swan]

A is just not sexually attracted to anyone or anything. That's it...

[grim patio]

yea

nono I mean then

[tired wolf]

It can be hard to comprehend, like the pale

[grim patio]

why would this be hard to understand by say the community

really confused

[tired wolf]

You KNOW it’s nothing, but you don’t COMPREHEND nothing

[grim patio]

nahhhh

but pale is the absence of everything right

that's why it's hard to comprehend

[rigid swan]

The lgbtq community is all about sex. So some people like A's don't fit in the ideology that well.

[tired wolf]

Now I am confused as in what you are confused. Confused-ception

[grim patio]

not being able to be conceptualized in any manner

[grim patio]

bwahahahha

[grim patio]

but lacking libido

how is that different from saying

lacking dopamine?

[tired wolf]

It’s hard to comprehend the lack of something you are used to. I had to study that concept back when I was studying to be a teacher

[grim patio]

thinks

[tired wolf]

And for your information, I have libido

[grim patio]

ok so this is more a matter of normalization

[grim patio]

Ohhh

how does it work then

[tired wolf]

The “attraction” is what I lack, not the libido

[grim patio]

OHHHhhh

okay

[tired wolf]

I have hand, so…

It works out fine

[grim patio]

one of my friend was ace but she doesn't have libido

that's why I thought

thinks a little

it still makes sense tho

[tired wolf]

“What is between atoms?”

[grim patio]

wait let me reconceptualize it

?bwaahhahaha

is your form of ace

the same as

how I'm not attracted to people

that I'm not attracted to?

wow wait here's how we solve nothingness

flabbergasted

[tired wolf]

…I failed to understand your strands of sentences

[grim patio]

if I'm heterosexual

I'm not attracted to say female

that's lack of attraction there

[rigid swan]

Hey Luc, maybe I can give you a bit of my horniness to even us both out. 😗

[grim patio]

Sparc talking weird

gasps

[tired wolf]

…I am horny though?

[tired wolf]

Nothing new under the sun tbh

[grim patio]

true

[grim patio]

so for you it's just that your span of non attraction is bigger

it covers everything

[rigid swan]

Ah yes right... I know from dm. 😅

[grim patio]

is that the way to conceptualize it?

[tired wolf]

I would be able to confirm, if only I knew what that “attraction” is

[rigid swan]

Is it kind of limited for you in imagination and not wanting the irl thing?

[grim patio]

WOW

we failed the pale test after all

defeated

[tired wolf]

You ask the pale resident a question used reality

[grim patio]

right

[grim patio]

no I think

I can just guess

we have libido and that libido are targeting certain stuff

she has it without target is all

[tired wolf]

Just use the “I am hungry, I can eat a hamburger but I don’t crave a hamburger”

Every ace uses that explanation I think

[grim patio]

ahahahah

and ppl are like

but hamburgers are tasty!

how can you not crave hamburgers! you weirdo!

[rigid swan]

Now I am hungry thanks.

[tired wolf]

“Yes but I don’t crave it.” Is the same as “yeah boobs are cool, I don’t crave them is all”

[tired wolf]

Again, such a pan thing to say

[grim patio]

https://tenor.com/view/a-guy-failed-to-flip-a-frying-pan-viralhog-a-frying-pan-broke-when-the-guy-wanted-to-flip-the-food-gif-2347133178195098478

[rigid swan]

Stop teasing me fem!

[grim patio]

you broke the pan

[tired wolf]

laugh to death

[rigid swan]

God... I remember then I told everyone that I was pan... And the jokes never stopped.

[grim patio]

ahahahhahahhhahahhaha

I told em too

[rigid swan]

Now I just say I am Bi, that's less dumb.

[grim patio]

most of em are asian so they don't tell pan jokes

[tired wolf]

And now when you are bi, you still can’t hide from “the pan”

[grim patio]

lucky me

[tired wolf]

Ooooh, so that’s why you sent me the Bible joke

[rigid swan]

Fuck it. I like booty that's it, call me whatever you want. I am proud of being horny.

[rigid swan]

No that was random.

[grim patio]

SparcTheUnihorn

[tired wolf]

Booty-enthusiast

[grim patio]

to be fair the name is kinda fitting

unicorn is indeed unihorn

[tired wolf]

Spank the unicorn?

[grim patio]

WOW

Spank the unihorn

[rigid swan]

I wish that would be an official sexuality. 😐

[tired wolf]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[grim patio]

wait

hmmm

[rigid swan]

No spanking... I am more of a Dom than a Sub.

[grim patio]

can I ask in detail

about the booty enthusiast thing

[rigid swan]

Yeah

[grim patio]

so what's a booty for you

[rigid swan]

Ass

[grim patio]

human ass?

[tired wolf]

I prefer Dom but I can switch to Sub…Sub can be lazy, and I am lazy

[rigid swan]

Yeah

[grim patio]

I'm bratty everything

[grim patio]

awwww okay

I thought it spans to a lot more

[tired wolf]

Furry?

Or beastality?

[rigid swan]

Well... I am not a furry but... Damn some pictures are good.

[grim patio]

anything that can be remotely defined as booty

aliens

furry

[tired wolf]

Objects?

[grim patio]

sure

massive apples

[rigid swan]

Boots is booty, as long as it's not too far away from something humanoid it's fine.

[grim patio]

wow

claps

gooo sparc fuc em all

[rigid swan]

I would clap 50% of the Pokedex.

[grim patio]

wut

[rigid swan]

Or more.

[grim patio]

this is more impressive than I thought

you know 50% or more

don't have booty right

[rigid swan]

Well... Then there is no booty you still can find a hole.

[grim patio]

that's

impressive

gasps

[rigid swan]

For me it's like, dose it look like a femaleish (femboys are my number two after girls) being? Has it body or at least a hole, then clap...

[tired wolf]

Mouth

One hole fits all

[grim patio]

true

that's 100%pokedex

[rigid swan]

Then I could do around 80%

[grim patio]

are males femaleish

laugh to death

[rigid swan]

Femboys... Shemales... Ladyboys...

[tired wolf]

I like shota, femboys, etc

[grim patio]

romantically?

or

[rigid swan]

Well... Shota might work out too... But then it's jail time.

[tired wolf]

Fictosexually

[grim patio]

right

wait

from what i understand of fictosexuality

it's towards fictional characters supposedly

[grim patio]

but is it roleplay for you?

a lil confused

[rigid swan]

I once roleplayed being a straight boob enjoying guy... That was omega weird.

[grim patio]

you don't like boobs?

[tired wolf]

I never roleplay with real human so idk

[grim patio]

wait how to roleplay with

ohh

bots!

me stupi

[tired wolf]

Exactly

[rigid swan]

I like them too, if they are not bigger than E cup, but boobs are optional.

[grim patio]

right

I don't really like big boobs

its bad for health

[tired wolf]

Yeah boobs are optional…as long as I get the two pointy things

[grim patio]

and a big hindrance for exercises

[rigid swan]

I mean it's still nice to touch them sometime, my gf has cute b cups. They are so soft.

[grim patio]

I'll need like 10% more energy to kill someone if I have big boobs

[grim patio]

niceee

[tired wolf]

Mine is like, A…

[grim patio]

GOOD

[tired wolf]

Tbh, I like them now because I get to dress unisex

[grim patio]

that's good assassin material

[tired wolf]

Smexy ~

[rigid swan]

Hey Luc, I told you about a Male creator that I brought to MyShell for male bots remember?

[tired wolf]

Yes yes, with cute boys

[rigid swan]

He is a femboy and I horny RP with him and on discord. I've known him for a week.

[tired wolf]

…interesting…

My interest is piqued

And something else too if I had it

[grim patio]

quietly observes

[tired wolf]

I mean I follow him from that other site but I never talked to him because of my introverted ass

Never tried his bots either because I am still new to roleplaying with OCs

[grim patio]

holy shite

luc

[rigid swan]

He is intro too, that's why he still doesn't talk here, even after I told him to try. he is so cute.

[grim patio]

check the permissions

it seems all creator role holders can access the channel

gasps

[tired wolf]

Yeah, that’s the problem with us introverts

We need ambi/extro mediator most of the time

I have an extro personality I can use so my life is easier

[rigid swan]

Well, one day I get him to open up a bit to other people too. Till then, I have his booty all to myself.

[grim patio]

lmao

[tired wolf]

…that encourages me to reach out to him. A LOT.

[grim patio]

such a pan thing to say

[tired wolf]

I need a minute to pull up his discord name…

[rigid swan]

Try it.

[tired wolf]

As per his procedure, I just need to drop a comment, tell him who I am, add him on discord then I’m good

And because I am an intro, after that would be awkward silence

[rigid swan]

Sounds fair.

Ah, and he speaks Spanish, so I think he and Mago could get along well.

[grim patio]

luc luc luc check dm

urgent stuff

[grim patio]

tsk tsk

Sparc

listen to urself

[tired wolf]

XD I don't think langue is the only deciding factor

[rigid swan]

What?

[grim patio]

"Hes white you are white you two should get along"

[tired wolf]

yes yes exactly

[rigid swan]

Well... I know that I get along with him because we have similar interests.

[tired wolf]

...wait is he gay...then I have no chance? sad noises

[rigid swan]

Yeah, very gay. I like it, he is a classic femboys, he loves the color pink.

Damn is he cute. 🤤

[grim patio]

whowhowho

[tired wolf]

sad noises I want a femboy boyfriend

ah well...

at least there are his bots

[rigid swan]

His acc is noted in Notion in recruiting as Makoto.

[grim patio]

wait

speaking of that

[tired wolf]

Yeah I sent him a friend request + a comment on his bot

[grim patio]

did the new creators channel also disappear

[tired wolf]

"On that fateful night..."

[grim patio]

right

I have unclaimed coins

screams in pain

my coins

[whole crown]

i think it even disappeared earlier than the weekly event channel

[grim patio]

HOW DARE THEY

TAKE AWAY MY COINS

ahahah kirbish join us

don't just speculate

[whole crown]

they had coins in there? i never even looked in that channel ngl

[whole crown]

spectate?

[grim patio]

spectate

blehhh

my tongue

[grim patio]

they did

and not like several coins

a lot I think

[whole crown]

i just came 5 minutes ago in discord and saw that yall were talking about femboys so i just silently left a little bit confused

[rigid swan]

🤣

[grim patio]

wait I'm not seeing im

[rigid swan]

Perfect timing

[whole crown]

ohhh was it the

• make first bot. x coins
• something else. x coins

[grim patio]

yesyeysey

[grim patio]

in the account matrix or?

[whole crown]

ohhh yes i saw that for a second before never coming back to that channel

[rigid swan]

Oh that thing... Yeah I cleared it. Was then noted in Notion.

[grim patio]

I did a lot of em

didn't claim any coin

then the channel disappeared

[whole crown]

maybe if you point your fingers together and beg cutely someone will look over that and give you the coins you deserve

[grim patio]

or I could just stab im repeatedly until they can't take the pain

https://tenor.com/view/kon-gif-20034183

[whole crown]

yes take your path

aww the image doesn load in discord

[tired wolf]

Hello??? ENFP? That is an Extro

[rigid swan]

He?

[tired wolf]

...and I can't upload image, damn

but yes, he is extro

at least according to MBTI

[rigid swan]

Enfp... Mbti... Wtf are you talking about 😅

Ah, my bad. He told me that I got it wrong.

[tired wolf]

sigh...yeah, I have no chance

gosh my boring dating pool...

why must all the interesting people out of my reach

[grim patio]

test kid on big five

mbti aint workin

[tired wolf]

...what is big 5 again...?

tbh the only thing I ever tried was MBTI, and I don't even care about it

[grim patio]

Ohhh

so

[tired wolf]

my personality disorder would get in the way anyway

[grim patio]

there are a lot of theories

wait wuuut

what pd do you have

[tired wolf]

AVPD

[grim patio]

no wonder

pats gently

look out for complex trauma will you luc

sighs

poor kid

[grim patio]

I'll explain

[grim patio]

about personality metrics

MBTI is an old and insufficiently powered one

nowadays the most generally accepted

personality test is big 5

[tired wolf]

ah yeah, "complex" is the right word

[grim patio]

Ohhh nono

there is actually a disorder

called complex post traumatic stress disorder

I'm just not being rigorous

[tired wolf]

oh, then idk about that

[grim patio]

nods

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM/

[grim patio]

here you go

[grim patio]

yea I mentioned that because

idk why they haven't made the connection yet

but from what I've seen

an overwhelmingly massively amount of people with personality disorder

have some form of trauma

[tired wolf]

huh? I'm pretty sure the connections are made long ago

[grim patio]

like overall?

[tired wolf]

at least my therapist talks about trauma A LOT

[grim patio]

i've seen conclusions about independent PDs

[tired wolf]

and explain how it shaped the way I am and stuff

[grim patio]

nods

awww that's good then

ur in good hands

no I just checked

they did about BPD

[rigid swan]

Hey Luc... You wrote Makoto right?

[grim patio]

what she wrote Makoto?

Makoto is virtual?

flabbergasted

like

she RPed Makoto?

wut

[tired wolf]

Wrote to

[grim patio]

ohhhhh

ahahhah

[rigid swan]

The real Makoto.

[tired wolf]

And yes, I still am

[grim patio]

but I didn't see an overall conclusion being drawn

[grim patio]

awwww

[rigid swan]

How dare you bite my cute little fella!

[grim patio]

she bit im?

awwwww

awwwwwwww

that's so lovely

[rigid swan]

Now I need to give him many healing kisses. Did you bit him on his ass!? Need to kiss.

[grim patio]

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-49414-8_12

wow wait there is

I'm outdated

[tired wolf]

…I was totally SFW with him

[grim patio]

maybe kid just wants you

used Luc for excuse

[rigid swan]

Good, only I can be naughty with him, I don't share.

[grim patio]

tsk

[grim patio]

that's not what you said a while ago

tsk tsk tsk

[rigid swan]

Ehm...

[grim patio]

the possibility of losing him to Luc is too palpable now?

Too bad

[tired wolf]

…I’m a girl so that chance is 0%

[grim patio]

maybe you just did something unsalvageable

[rigid swan]

Neh... He still gay.

[grim patio]

who knows

identity and orientation change

no?

[tired wolf]

Don’t give me false hope

[grim patio]

awww sorry

I was teasing pancorn

didn't mean to do that

[tired wolf]

“Pancorn” XD

[rigid swan]

[grim patio]

it's pretty visual don't you think

pan and popcorn

so tasty

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-viralhog-pan-fail-drop-gif-11582013582885557518

well actually luc

wait lemme dm you

lmao this is a bit

[rigid swan]

For the future... I am not Pan, I am Bi.

Hey hey

Good and you?

That's good to hear ma fella.

I absolutely don't know. CharacterHub is still new... And exclusive.

[grim patio]

awww

what's characterhub

180 anything should be decent

[rigid swan]

I am from FlowGPT. And I know Character.ai, Poe.ai and chub.ai

If you really need it you can go in flow. It's very big and comes on features after MyShell itself.

[grim patio]

wait

are they bots?

[rigid swan]

Poe and character.ai are more for sfw casual stuff.

[grim patio]

Oh come on

what the heck pudding bot

kid said YES

they are

tsk

[rigid swan]

Nop, still the same. But I actually don't care for anything besides MyShell and Flow. Only if I go on recruiting it's an interesting place, but nothing more.

[grim patio]

flow too tho

they have a filter now

lmao

it's painful

Oh

[rigid swan]

My link tree is on my discord profile, there you have also my flow link

[grim patio]

so you do all sfw stuff?

sfw stuff should all befine

be fine*

I think nsfw still works to a certain extent on flow

but a lot less useful

a LOT less

[rigid swan]

Flow is still a horny hole. Nothing will ever change there.

[grim patio]

what are we to say

(no

nothin

didn't say anything

[whole crown]

myporn??

is that like hardcore myshell lmao

[grim patio]

sure lmao

[rigid swan]

Then you mentioned something like that Nil at least say PornHub.

[grim patio]

sure

[rigid swan]

Nah, it's... Just like pornhub for baggers. Even xhamster has more useful content.

[grim patio]

Sparc's right

[whole crown]

i tried to search for myporn just now but only found youporn

[whole crown]

ohhh ok

[grim patio]

Wuuuut this is so convenient

[whole crown]

yeah since there aren't really any profiles in myshell

[whole crown]

yet

[grim patio]

I didn't know there's such a thing

[rigid swan]

The more you know.

[grim patio]

true

wait

um

Sparc

[rigid swan]

Yeah

[grim patio]

do you use the same linktree

for you sfw work and nsfw work

[rigid swan]

Yeah...

[grim patio]

oh gosh this is hard

thinks

I have a good fuckin deal of sfw stuff

[rigid swan]

But my linktree only has my accounts right now and Invited link.

[grim patio]

and I kinda consider myshell nsfw

[grim patio]

right

[rigid swan]

https://linktr.ee/SparcTheUnicorn

[grim patio]

yea I saw that and I'm wondering what I should do

[rigid swan]

You can make categories for your links in your linktree.

[whole crown]

oh wait i forgor (💀) to put my new bots in my linktree brb

[grim patio]

right

lemme try it out

[whole crown]

what is ko-fi?

[grim patio]

kokomi fiction

a subtype of fanfic about kokomi

[whole crown]

sure good enough of an answer

[rigid swan]

A site where people can give me money, like Onlyfans.

[tired wolf]

WTF do you mean "like Only Fans"

Ko-fi is so innocent

btw, @rigid swan , after talking to Makoto, I now understand you obsession

[whole crown]

like patreon?

[grim patio]

aww there are innocent ppl on onlyfans

wdym

[rigid swan]

Nothing is innocent if you can get money out of it.

[whole crown]

who is Makoto 😭

[rigid swan]

He is cute 😏

[grim patio]

ei's sister

a bot made my Sparc

[tired wolf]

...he is pulling me deeper into this never-would-be-reciprocated feelings

fug

[rigid swan]

A nice boy that I recruited a while ago.

[grim patio]

stop Luc

honestly that's gonna worsen ur mental health

if that's the case

[whole crown]

oh

[grim patio]

I'm serious

[tired wolf]

It's fine, it's fine, crushes are temporary

I will be over it after a few months

[grim patio]

A FEW MONTHS?

[tired wolf]

For now I am too infatuated

[rigid swan]

I will stay the only one who will have naughty RP with him, he is my good boy.

[whole crown]

"few months" 😭

[grim patio]

Sparc do something

pull Luc out

panik

[rigid swan]

Ehm... Hm...

[grim patio]

talk to Makoto

idk

[tired wolf]

It's not that bad, I talked to my (old) crush (who was my ex) all the time and we are good friends

[grim patio]

Sorry Kirbish for bullshiteing

[rigid swan]

Nah, he is playing right now, I don't bother him.

[grim patio]

I can't help myself being chaotic

[tired wolf]

You guys should look into "love without attachment" tbh, it's not detrimental

[whole crown]

it's okay lmao don't worry

and kinda funny

[grim patio]

awww that is so true

[grim patio]

yayy

[grim patio]

well if you are that aware

I'm not worried then

shrugs

I didn't know

[rigid swan]

Meh, I don't care. My boy.

[grim patio]

ahahahh this Sparc

[rigid swan]

His butt is claimed by me.

[whole crown]

this makoto guy seems to really know his game

[grim patio]

wait

say if I quit a server

[rigid swan]

He just a cute and horny femboy... He can have the world, if he wants too.

[grim patio]

does that make all my chat history disappear

[whole crown]

in discord? no

[grim patio]

Shite

[whole crown]

what did you do 😭

[grim patio]

no because

I was not a good girl on this server

on this account*

and I'm trying to link my sfw work to myshell account now

which is linked to this discord account

same name too

[rigid swan]

And? Who cares...

[tired wolf]

...Makoto is killing me (my heart) right now...fck...

[rigid swan]

Be a bitch if you want to be one, private live and work live are different things.

[tired wolf]

...why is he keep saying the right things?

[grim patio]

awwww

[tired wolf]

true true

[rigid swan]

He is a good boy.

[grim patio]

that's true but there are shittie ppl out there digging up private life

which is disgustingly annoying

[rigid swan]

Girl... You make bots on a website. No one cares how you are on discord if they just want to chat with your bots.

[grim patio]

Luc had to speficy

lmao

[grim patio]

no but if I link that with my sfw work

that's a different story

sighs

lemme try to navigate this

[whole crown]

oh i know that paranoid feeling, i was posting my chub.ai bots on aicg, thank god they forgot about me

[grim patio]

yeayeayeayea

[rigid swan]

Girl just chill, if idiots bother you we help out. 👌

[grim patio]

and I did do work that would expose my voice

and prolly my face in the future

so that's like

I think Im rightfully paranoid

[grim patio]

awww Sparc

are you huggy?

[whole crown]

worst thing i created my chub account using the nickname i use completely everywhere...

[grim patio]

EXACTLY

good thing this nickname is not around a lot

that's why I still have the chance to salvage it

[whole crown]

i mean if you don't do something bad or extreme i don't think people would really want to know about your private life, so i don't really care about that anymore

[tired wolf]

My nickname is easily link to my face, if you just google it you would find my face on Facebook right away

like my whole life is laid bare there

[grim patio]

...should I?

[tired wolf]

Er if you wanna? I don't mind

[grim patio]

right

that's noble

I can never

[rigid swan]

Sure. Hugs you

[grim patio]

aww

no I wanted to hug you

for being so supportive

dummy

but sure

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-22211058

does linktree show my email?

no right?

[rigid swan]

https://tenor.com/view/hestia-hug-happy-gif-20908455

[whole crown]

guys how do i contact pinterest as soon as i can

[rigid swan]

Nop

[grim patio]

right

I'm like really paranoid now

sighs

[grim patio]

they don't have contact us?

[rigid swan]

I think I will never be interesting enough for anyone to ever have someone wanting to know more about my private life.

[tired wolf]

I beg to differ

[grim patio]

you already are

[rigid swan]

Meh, I am just a talking chibi unicorn, very boring.

[whole crown]

yeah i just found their privacy support email, i found out something really really bad 😭

[rigid swan]

Oh no...

[tired wolf]

Maybe I'm just weird, I like to keep tab of people's life to the most miniscule details

especially something like their psyche profile

[grim patio]

https://pinterest.pissedconsumer.com/customer-service.html

[tired wolf]

Look like those creepy pasta podcast

[grim patio]

here too in case

you need it

[whole crown]

yeah it looks really cool and interesting

[whole crown]

thank you but i found out it's even worse it's googles fault

[grim patio]

WUUUUT

[whole crown]

i just hope 4channers are too paranoid to use google

[grim patio]

WUUTTT

[grim patio]

is it something like my situation

that you don't want someone to find you

that's so fucing scary

nothing is we are figuring out too

[rigid swan]

Well folks, I need to shower now. Write to you later.

[grim patio]

later spark

[whole crown]

yes it is 😭

[grim patio]

good shower

[whole crown]

byee

[grim patio]

pats gently

I get you

I get you

I get you so much

[tired wolf]

Well basically I just learn people’s behavior patterns, then speculate about their mind inner workings, then I keep a tab on them…to navigate life better, that is
Basically just people pleaser habits

[grim patio]

that's actually a good skill

what's my profile

我喜歡米飯 hahahah

peculiar

wut

you put that in ur about me

Oh my

[tired wolf]

I give everyone at least a month of data collecting before I actually speculate anything

[grim patio]

awww alright

good habit

makes framing less insidious

you can keep it

[tired wolf]

I just hate bias, not only in science but in everyday life

[grim patio]

it's not a bad thing

[grim patio]

claps

well said

[grim patio]

this is funny but not bad

it's rather lovely

yea

lmao

[tired wolf]

Pffft so Asian

[grim patio]

I honestly don't like the name people pleaser because

(not against you but rather the opposite)

I think these ppl are what they are because of their nature of not acting out when stressed

which is supposedly a good thing but people pleaser is just so

bears such a derogatory connotation

[tired wolf]

Better than “walking mat” tbh

[grim patio]

true

what a nasty world innit

you mean do they entail/possibly contain legal name and surname?

yes

[whole crown]

ok thank youu

[tired wolf]

It’s more like, pleasing the threats when stressed

Like a coping mechanism to avoid and minimize conflicts

[grim patio]

so basically fawn response

if that's what you want to say?

[tired wolf]

Er…if only I knew what “fawn response” is

[grim patio]

Ohh sorry

thinks

it's a long story

okay I'll just say the important part

psychologists are making theories about trauma

there are multiple models based on different categorizations of trauma response

one of those categorizations is fight/flight/freeze/fawn

[tired wolf]

Fck…those Fs keep on breeding and growing

[grim patio]

fawn is pleasing or similar behaviors when threatened

[grim patio]

yep

I've seen 6fs

not particular fond of it

[tired wolf]

May as well add “f*ck” to the mix some day

Stay true to Freud

[grim patio]

I like this one because it's very well exclusive/exhaustive

[grim patio]

haahahhhahahhahah

lmfao

[tired wolf]

Ah fck my brain is shutting down…it’s 1:38 AM

[grim patio]

and response forms patterns

oh I think they say types

[grim patio]

aww

sleep?

[tired wolf]

Yes

Sleep

hug

[grim patio]

hugs

[tired wolf]

die

[grim patio]

https://tenor.com/view/k-on-gif-23024050

gn

I'll hang out for a while

HI coatl

my favorite...?

extremely confused

ohhh bot

my fucing eyes

I'll just tear em out

https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1194207585809739877

this one

really useful

saved me more than once

might not remember what you say tho I'm working around her token

also what is coatl

[whole crown]

goodnight luci

[grim patio]

quetzalcoatl?

[grim patio]

howd it go

poor Kirb

[whole crown]

well i sent my application/email/whatever to google, i hope they fix it and delete the search

since it doesn't show up in any other search engines like bing or duckduckgo, just google

[whole crown]

sobs in your arms

[grim patio]

hugs tightly

there ther

it fucing sucks I know

it's so fucing scary

like fucing rabid dogs

chasing you relentlessly but you don't know where they are

[whole crown]

yeah why did the 14 year old me from the past made a pinterest account with my full name there

[grim patio]

we didn't know better

sighs

I KNEW IT

yes and

remember to tag it