Which Darkmoor spell is your favorite?

[copper moss]

🐛

[thorny topaz]

Glowbug overused

[clever bolt]

Fire From Above has the best animation

[narrow bloom]

bugs is so useful, we still use it this day when questing

[cloud light]

Gotta be my tenty boi. I play balance but I just really like the animation

[copper moss]

mystic is fairly underrated it's always been one of the more interesting myth spells

in the very least, the upcoming shadow infused changes will allow mystic (and lulu for that matter) to be more viable spells in between darkmoor and wallaru

so that'll be fun to see

also glowbug but i already had my several years of glowbug supremacy as a storm main so im not really too excited about seeing it make a return

[bleak pivot]

LULU MY BELOVED

[copper moss]

(though im not against it!!)

[bleak pivot]

I wish Gaze was cooler tho

[copper moss]

it'll forever be cursed to me that there's an icon for a red gaze

idk if i like him more or less than green gazed but i know one thing for sure-- that's not my baby

[clever bolt]

What path b gaze should be

[smoky maple]

Mystic Colossus has mad aura ngl

[bleak pivot]

I don't like it 😭

[clever bolt]

If snowman can have 2 separate animations
Gaze can have 2 separate textures

[copper moss]

could be fun if green gazed did a spiritual damage thing and red gazed did an elemental damage thing but shrug, idk nothin

ive never gotten a balance to darkmoor so i dont think it'd be right of me to really comment on what gaze should do

[bleak pivot]

Oh I am excited for the removal of shadow from Gaze though

[clever bolt]

gaze will probably still just be a hit & bubble

[bleak pivot]

Makes it usable for Exalted PvP

[copper moss]

i wonder if they'll keep the bubble though

[bleak pivot]

If they remove it that defeats the point 😭

[simple seal]

Who remembers when glowbug and ffa broke PvP

[copper moss]

true but theyve made stranger decisions before

[bleak pivot]

Balance doesn't have another hit and bubble like the others

But true they have

[copper moss]

i guess the trade off would have to be its damage being ludicrously low but

the main thing is the bubble

[simple seal]

They absolutely killed balance

[bleak pivot]

Yeah the other four pip hit bubbles have crap damage anyways

[simple seal]

balance used to be so good

[clever bolt]

Gaze is balance's only hit + bubble
So it'd be strange to remove it

[copper moss]

a better question then would be if it's non shad form is still going to be a dual hit then

[bleak pivot]

I can live with a single hit if they keep the bubble

[copper moss]

my personal bet is that it'll lose the second damage hit and just do the balance hit + bubble

[copper moss]

or potentially just do the random school damage + balance bubble

we'll see innit

[bleak pivot]

A shame it'll be five pips instead of four, but still helpful

More likely chromatic than random I think

[copper moss]

nested fury and raging bull are bound to be very interesting changes especially

[simple seal]

What are the changes to nested and bull?

[clever bolt]

We need two paths
so chance are one will be balance hit, and the other will be target chromatic hit

[copper moss]

we dunno yet, that's the thing-- but all shadow infused spells are getting non infused variants that dont require a shadow pip and are weaker bc of it.

the tradeoff being that you can use the spell a lot quicker. with those two being aoes, it means they could be better than meteor/dragon and sand/nova. or not

we wont really know the answer to the latter question for awhile

[bleak pivot]

At the very least, Nested will still be useful purely by virtue of being a not balance damage aoe

[clever bolt]

nested is 100% going to nerfed
There's no avoiding it

[simple seal]

Yeah I’d rather just use the shadow pip version

[simple seal]

everything in balance getting nerfed

[bleak pivot]

I miss PvP X Judge

[clever bolt]

true, but I'm talking about top path nested being nerfed

[simple seal]

all started with lore master and gaze 😭

[clever bolt]

No way the damage stays the way it is

[simple seal]

balance level 100 pvp was so busted

[clever bolt]

I've made the joke that balance has never had a buff in either 9 or 10 major updates now

[simple seal]

has balance ever even received a buff like EVER

[clever bolt]

Balance in PvP is really good
Balance anywhere else is meh at best and a liability at worst

[copper moss]

in the very least, non-infused squall will be stronger than 5 pip tempest
5 pip tempest being 400 damage

[bleak pivot]

Rainbow Serpent having the storm pip removed for the normal version

[simple seal]

balances only function in anywhere outside of PvP is as a support

[clever bolt]

...so it's on par with every other school

[bleak pivot]

Yeah lol

But it's something I guess

[copper moss]

didnt balance have a very broken spell in pvp for awhile, the novus spell?

[clever bolt]

IMO I'd be fine with balance losing the 2 school pip spells
break up path b into two things

[copper moss]

i dont pvp or keep up with it but i recall hearing a lot of whining about it

[clever bolt]

still is afaik

[bleak pivot]

Scales of Destiny?

[copper moss]

smth like that

that it's very spammable and that it's very hard to shield against

[potent quail]

I remember how annoying Glowbug was when it had enfeeble. Man that sucked 😂

[copper moss]

it was the worst 😭

[clever bolt]

easier to shield against now at least

[copper moss]

i still dread when enemies have the older versio nsomehow

[clever bolt]

shadow bugs

[bleak pivot]

Bugs could kill a run in a dungeon

[potent quail]

Ngl, idk why but it feels like stun would make better sense with it, but maybe that’s just me

[copper moss]

everyone hates on earthquake when the real enemy hides in the dark

[potent quail]

Nah earthquake is manageable cause you can survive it. Glowbugs you’re just sweating and hoping enemy doesn’t spam it

[simple seal]

I’m saying like when ffa and glowbug first came out

[bleak pivot]

I remember when ices would spam abominable in PvP

And it wasn't turn based

[potent quail]

Oof. Yeah that’s why I don’t do pvp. I’m not good at it for one thing and it’s just easier to play it non-competitively 😂

[devout plover]

4th age PVP at max with abominable was peak

winter moon into abominable was the move

[solemn hatch]

call of labubu <3

[steel bear]

big ant 💚 (yes i know it’s a mantis)

[ancient gull]

fire from above would be so much better if it was just aoe smh

and the 37 people who said gaze are definitely lying