Most disliked pet bodies.

[lapis ledge]

Share what your least favorite pet bodies/types of pet bodies here.
We aren't talking visuals, mainly stuff like pet body spell card/spell card amounts, stats, stuff like that

[worldly flame]

Piggle

[tall gulch]

anything that doesn't have a item card

[high tree]

My vote is also this.

[tall gulch]

also any pet that is locked behind a raid

[next raven]

anything that gives a 1 pip starter hit item card just seems so pointless

[faint depot]

This is a bit hard/odd to answer for me, since it's more about what I DO like on pets, as opposed to my least favourite. I feel like any pet with a card that is either a buff, or something like sharpened blade or potent trap etc, has it's uses, and the others are just pretty negligible?

Unless the pet Item card is going to be usable in end game circumstances I see like 0 reason to invest the energy, time, and resources into it.

I think 3 cards per pet card is a good amount, since it allows you to not have too many, but also be able to choose not to use some of them if you don't need so many.

In terms of stats, unless the plan is to increase the total base stats a pet can have, I don't think it matters too much, multiple hatches will level out the stat pool/talent pool and mold them into what you're looking for out of them anyways.

TLDR: I like pet cards that will provide me with more stackable buffs, or spells that are unobtainable through normal circumstances. ICs should standardize to around 3 cards per pet.

[short haven]

i'd say any powercrept pets

[lapis ledge]

I'll likely do a different thread for favorite pets at a different point, just wanted to get some data about this first

[next raven]

also hybrid pets with different school combos that give the same item cards on every variant, say like the orthrus hybrids (grimtooth, frosthound, jade hound etc) all give orthrus

[faint depot]

Gotcha, in that case for most disliked would probably be just an inverse of what I said here..

I'll continue to make pets for visuals as well as item cards separately, but something like the fun guy is really just like... disappointing card-wise. Love the body, think he's a fun silly guy. I will literally never put that accurate card in my deck LOL

I also agree with tele, pets with 1 pip or even 2 pip basic hits that everyone will get within the first little bit of gameplay seem silly

[worldly flame]

Jokes aside:
Able Racoon (Storm) - polymorph
Amber Shenlong Dragon (Myth) - stun
Amarthanthine Hound (Storm) - 1 charm disarm
Apophis Scarab (Fire) - scarab
Arcane Helpers (Storm) - wild bolt
Arctic Cat (Ice) - steal minion hp
Armor Dragon (Ice) - ice elf
All azteca raid quetzels - useless pierce aura
Azure Dragon (Ice) - 4 pip reshuffle
Bardic Elf (Myth) - fire elf
Beguiled Gargoyle (Myth) - Cyclops minion
Blazezilla (Fire) - krokomummy
Blighted Treeant (death) - bronze helephant
Blizzard Eye (Ice) - absorb armor
Blossom Pixie (life) - empowerment
Blue Dragon (Ice) - mend minion
Brave Piggle (Balance) - unicorn
Burlap Boy (life) - Clockwork golem
Careful Hound (myth) - Banshee
Cheery Piggle (myth) - spirit armor
Cheetah Piggle (storm) - pre-reworked insane bolt
Choco Hoppers (death) - infection
Cinerator Golem (balance) - jade oni
Cloud Demon (storm) - kraken
Cloudburst Sprite (storm) - storm hound

[next raven]

i think for 1/2 pip hit ics they could at least change them to their path b variants, i believe that's how most of the recent ones are

[lapis ledge]

I was just about to ask about if Path B spells still feel like they had value actually

[faint depot]

I could see some value out of it, it could give some viability to early lvl pvp with them

also please give this silly guy at least 2, preferrably 3 cards, i'm beggin out here. I wish i had any use for it when I was levelling him up, but I'd have to have such a small deck that it felt too unreliable

that's off topic now tho LOL

[lime pier]

I agree with Paige, I dislike the Apophi's Scarab and the other variants. They give the same balance beetle.
For me, I usually put pools on a pet body based on school or item card. Although I think they're cute, I am demotivated to do anything with those three because of identical cards

I also don't like pet bodies if they have inconsistent eggs with their school
ex. Snowflake has a pyromantic egg. I like the pet body and have put talents on it before, but I like indicators to have an idea on what I received before double checking in my inventory

[next raven]

personally i don't feel they have a ton of use but anything is better than a default ghoul yk

at least path b spells have the possibility of being useful

[faint depot]

^

[next raven]

the orthrus variants are some of my favorite pets visually in the game but the myth ic on all of them is so annoying 😭

[fair dagger]

so many cute pets with bad spells

[quiet arrow]

For pve,my preferred pet is one with multiple buffs

like lemuria raid pet

[next raven]

also prism item cards???? why

[fair dagger]

pets that give things like auras that aren't really used and its it things like amplify - example Auspicious Ox

[worldly flame]

Coocoonut Bear (balance) - Precision
Copycake (fire) - Sunbird
Crabling (balance) - Water elemental
crystal dragon (balance) - scorpion
Danger Hound (death) - infection
Daring dragon (life) - vengeance
Dark Imp (death) - sacrifice
darkreaver (balance) - hydra
Dazzlefeather (ice) - ice prism
decade dragon (balance) - clockwork golem
decade firecat (fire) - chastisement
decade gargoyle (death) - poison
decennial dragon (balance) - clockwork golem
defender dragon (myth) - polymorph gobbler
desert gnome (balance) - irate gnomes
diecanthrope (death) - 50% doom and gloom + tri 25% infection
disco buffaloon (death) - banshee
dragonfly (life) - life scarab (life trap and guiding light cards are fine)
dramy baaterfly (myth) - myth prism

Dusty Grimoire (myth) - precision + stun
dutiful blood bat (life) - clockwork minion
dutiful terrior (death) - ghoul
earthern elf (balance) - scorpion
echinda (ice) - ice wyvern
elemental foo dog (life) - unicorn
emberwing (fire) - link
energetic baaterfly (storm) - storm prism
everlasting Elf (life) - hunting wyvern
eyecaramba (death) - scarab
eyebendito (life) - scarab
eyediache (balance) - scarab
fabled draconian (myth) - banshee
fae omen (death) - banshee
fae vivae (life) - imp
fae o fury (fire) - phoenix + rain of fire
fall sproutling (death) - hamadryad

[next raven]

just add everything with a single target hit tbh 💀

royal triton is an example of it being somewhat okay though

at least it's more than just +10 base damage

[fair dagger]

I'm not sure if Paige said this one yet but - its so cute but it only gives one card and shielding damage in this game is not really used much so its just so cute but so useless

[old edge]

we HATE pets that give arc 1-esque ic's
we need new hatchable pets (that arent reskinned prev pets) with useful item cards (blades/new aoes)

if yall are gonna drop new darkmoor stuff, pls drop new pets that are suited for arc 3+

[next raven]

more pets with mass traps/prisms too please

[worldly flame]

Fantastic Plushie (ice) - ancient wyvern
fearless lion cubs (balance) - judgement
feathered tabby (balance) - cat nap + dragonlance (self)
feisty lion cubs (fire) - fire serpent
festive prrrresent (death) - mass infection 45%
fetching pet peeve (myth) - bewilder
fiendish foo dog (death) - banshee
finned assassin (death) - mass infection 45%
fire gnome (fire) - irrate gnomes
firezilla (fire) - fire elf
flamedance seraph (fire) - fire prism
ALL flamencos except balance- school shields 90%
Flamenco Tocador (balance) - availing hands
Flammotaur (fire) - helephant + stone colossus
Flarewolf (fire) - sun serpent (wyld fire is okay)
Fog Unicorn (LIFE) - DARKWIND
forest cyclops (life) - humongofrog
forest guardian (myth) - minotaur (myth blade is fine)
foxy dragon (myth) - CRUSADE????? A WAND HIT
franken bunny bride (storm) - water elemental
frankie forearms (myth) - scorpion
freckled piggle (storm) - infalliable

[old edge]

because the new pets coming out rn are cute and all but <50 people are actually using the ic lol

[fair dagger]

the foxy dragon having a wand hit was fr insane

[lusty shuttle]

And morbid macawbre giving tranquilize

[void rapids]

^ this
especially mass hex, mass storm/death/life traps

[next raven]

i would genuinely kill for a pet with mass hex

[old edge]

over 1200 pet bodies but most people just use:

• frills
• gryphons
• ghultures
• any of the pets with a blade/trap ic
• kookaburras (for arc 1)
• opossum (again, for mainly arc 1)

thats crazy

[fair dagger]

I will say having exclusive pets with "bad" spells feels the worst. Like we are paying crowns or dedicating time to get a pet that we won't be able to actually showcase without giving up a invaluable spell.

[worldly flame]

friendly falcon (storm) - lightning bats
friendship fluffle (fire) - fire elf + power link
frigid elf (ice) - evil snowman
frigid fiend (ice) - snow serpent
frigid krokomummy (ice) - icespear + ice wyvern
Frost Cat (ice) - Minor Flash, ANOTHER WAND HIT
frostbound grimhorn (ice) - volcanic shield
frosty fish (ice) - frostbite
frosty krokomummy (ice) - ice prism
frozen cat (ice) - snow serpent
frozen pet peeve (ice) - evil snowman
fun dragon (life) -satyr
Fun guy (balance) - accurate
furious krokomummy (storm) - stormspear
gargoyle (death) - empower
gamer piggle (balance) - elemental shield
ALL Gloamings - School aura 25% outgoing, 5% accuracy
Ghost Dragon (death) - animate
Ghost hound (death) - 65% infection
ghoulish macawbre (balance) - SCARAB
gilded skeleton (death) - War helephant
glacier cat (ice) - frost beetle
Gloomy Goatling (death) - tri infection 25%
Glum Goatling (life) - CALM
golden apple brudel (myth) - mythspear
golden goose (myth) - vengeance

Grandpa Piggle (ice) - ice armor
grave crabling (death) - animate
green parakeet (life) - sprite
greenman sapling (life) - power link
Grim Goatling (balance) - cat nap
grimdark golem (death) - ghoul
groundhog (ice) - ice wyvern
Grove Unicorn (life) - darkwind
guardian dragon (myth) - tower shield
guardian foo dog (life) - evil snowman
harmonious baaterfly (myth) - precision
harmonious sprite (balance) - clockwork minion
haunttoman (storm) - Dr Von Monster
helpful wildclaw (myth) - fairy
hollow knight (ice) - ice armor
horned monkey spider (storm) - accurate
hulking cyclops (life) - ice wyvern

[lapis ledge]

While I appreciate the list, it does bury other people's feedback a bit.

[worldly flame]

ianthine spectre (death) - animate
imperial foo dog (myth) - cyclops
Indigo dragon (ice) - weakness
infernozilla (fire) - choke
Intrepid Racoon (fire) - strong
iron ram (death) - deathspear
ironic krokomummy (life) - pigsie
Ivaneko Tiger (storm) - pre-reworked insane bolt
Ivory Shenlong Dragon (balance) - Locust swarm
jade shenglong Dragon (life) - legend shield
jolly piggle (myth) - fairy
jovial piggle (myth) - pixie
krok pal (balance) - 4 pip reshuffle

ok im done then

[next raven]

tldr about 1100 of the 1200 something pets are near-useless if not flat out useless

[worldly flame]

Yea

Most item cards on their respective school + body doesn't make sense

Wand hits on some of the pets are rediculous

[boreal tulip]

In general:
In terms of cards, most people dislike pets that give hits (especially basic ones) because we can't enchant them in standard PvE and 99% of them do only slightly better damage than the standard non-enchanted version.
Standard Auras, shields and negative charms follow similar thinking - we already have them as spells or readily available TCs or don't need them at all because of the general style of gameplay.

So most people go for pets that give buffs (blades, traps) because they stack with other buffs, utility (shatter) or unique cards found only in item card/TC format so impossible or very hard to get.
Of course, pets with no cards are disliked the most.

In terms of flags, people dislike Exclusive pets locked behind Crown Shop and Raids. Also non transferable pets between characters. And also school only pets specifically since it's being hypothesized that some of them behave as Exclusive pets (or much lower chance of getting them than we should) when trying to hatch for them when we are the school that can't equip it.

In terms of talents and stats, most people have gotten used to 1st Generations being pretty bad.
Everyone wants the highest achievable stats on their pet for best stats on their wizard.
Talent pools have gotten better recently for example on Weaving pets, Kit-10s, ... with more useful talents.
Derby is dead so nobody cares about Derby Powers.

For hit cards, buffing the hit values (for standard content), changing them to Path B (for advanced content) or giving unique new hits or extra effects could convince players to use them.
Basically, making them unique compared to trained spells or TCs we can buy from vendor or Bazaar.

[fair dagger]

School only equitable pets are really annoying as well! The spells given by the body will already determine what class it will go on - limiting what school can equip it just makes it less accessible to create since more often than not people want to create those pets on their main character that has energy gear and not on alt school-specific characters.

[boreal tulip]

Also, the fact that Dapper Corgi is the only pet that gives +8 Energy. Everyone uses it as Energy pet for that reason. Maybe more pets that give +8 Energy? Doesn't need to be more Energy than the Corgi gives, just more options. Ideally with Fishing/Gardening cards to pair it with.

[boreal tulip]

If you want to retroactively fix old pets, add cards to pets that don't have any and replace some Arc 1 hits with either Path B or something more enticing.
I would say most modern pets have been pretty good and unique. It's the old ones that are boring mostly.

[lapis ledge]

Just a heads up, going to be locking this thread at the end of the day. Thank you all for your feedback!

[fair dagger]

Ty Greg for letting us vent ❤️ and hopefully making some impactful changes to the future of pets.

[maiden notch]

Not so much pet bodies I dislike in particular, but I feel like pets moving forward, we should have cards that are more universally useful or is more useful to particular classes. The skeleton hybrids was a perfect example of giving each class a useful all around pet. More variety like this encourages people to step out of the typical trends like frillasaurs, enchanted armament etc that just doesnt have as much appeal but has useful tools at their disposal. Outdated spells like taunts, ice/frozen armor etc just isnt up to snuff with the rest of the game. Hope in the future we can see a more cards on pets that has been locked to only pieces of gear, like professor pack and mass feint, incindiate etc. That would tempt me more so to be on the pet chase, be it to farm or purchase.