ancient maple
What if the shared bank had an option to not just share with the wizards on the account but another spot to share it with friends?
I know there are times where I have something i don't want/need and i can't sell them and there are lots of players that would use them that don't have gold or even the needs to be able to get whatever item they need.
Thoughts?
viscid forum
Item trading gets suggested a lot and will almost certainly never be added as it ruins the financial model of the game
ancient maple
it doesn't need to be about money all the time tho 
kindred kindle
But maybe very limited trading within a guild, for instance? That 2 week cooldown would discourage gamma's attic-type transactions.
ancient maple
theres trading winthin guilds??
kindred kindle
No, I am saying that it might be a compromise between opening it up to everybody and allowing some trading
viscid forum
I think guilds should first allow trading of skeleton keys (or at least pooling them together) before they add any other trade functionality
kindred kindle
Or maybe allow reagents to be donated to a crafter, in the same way that they are donated to open a level of a crafter.
Let me put some fire azoth in toward a specific key, and when somebody else puts the rest of the recipe in, my designated key master can craft it
kindred kindle
The current system mostly puts the burden on the guild leader, or who has learned the correct azoth recipes. And then they must have keymaster and be present to open the gate. KI is not kind to guild leaders
ancient maple
do they get more or better rewards at least...?
kindred kindle
Not a blessed thing.
ancient maple
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karmic lantern
Item trading gets suggested a lot and will almost certainly never be added as it...
That's kind of silly. i hope that's not the mindset of most of the team because that'd be very dissappointing that a good feature like that won't ever happen cause it ruins their "financial model" when you could def argue nothing/barely anything will change. that's just me though. it's been requested for years from what i've understood, and i'm def not the first to advocate for it
im not sure about economics though, so i wouldn't know anything.
i would be curious as to how it'd ruin it though
ancient maple
i fail to really see how it would change anything financially, the only thing that changes would be how much grinding we would have to do for certian items or gear
worn dock
i fail to really see how it would change anything financially, the only thing th...
That's exactly what would ruin it. They made the drops for Aeon gear, to just use as an example, so catastrophic but also put that same gear into a pack so that 1) more people would be incentivized to buy the packs, and I know many people who did. And 2, force people to keep playing the game. Gotta keep renewing your membership until you finish your world and get your max gear. Allowing gear trading means that max level people aren't playing the game as long as they need to. Or at least that's how the company sees it.
That's why if they did ever allow something like this, it would most likely JUST be reagents and stuff of that nature unfortunately. The entire community has been advocating for this at the very least since Waterworks.
karmic lantern
reagents i don't mind at all, gear i completely understand though
glad sluice
lol
ancient maple
so once again its profit over quality, sad...
viscid forum
so once again its profit over quality, sad...
Companies need to make money. Gear trading would need to be so incredibly restrictive people would complain about it being a pointless feature, as it literally defeats the entire purpose of playing the game to get gear lol
ancient maple
it just shows that they would rather nickel and dime rather than thinking of better creative ideas that could be new or just simply added another version of what's already liked
viscid forum
Or, hear me out, being able to just get all your top tier gear for free with no effort defeats the purpose of playing an mmo game
ancient maple
the entire point of the game is to have the best gear, the best pets, the best everything and, to defeat the final bosses
viscid forum
Yes. So that's why the game is setup to give you multiple ways to work for your best gear.
And not get it for free with 0 effort by getting it from friends/random people/the bazaar
ancient maple
you are missing the entire point of what im saying
the entire point of what im saying would be that if i have all these spellements that are useless to me but useful to a friend that would need the item for something, then that would boost playing time and bring in more players making sure the game could be better and more enjoyable for everyone even if they can't afford a membership to play the game
karmic lantern
the entire point of what im saying would be that if i have all these spellements...
ancient maple
Yeah the feeling is mutual for both parties...
polar linden
Look: If you can make a statistically sound argument (With the numbers & samples to back it up!) that adding in the option to trade gear would be more profitable and more entertaining then I'm sure KI will rethink.
Until then, the Bazaar is all we get.
karmic lantern
I can imagine guilds would be a neat foundation to start some sort of system like gear trading
but who knows
indigo otter
The reason is because nobody would see the purpose of buying the world packs 😂 (Even though you'd never really need the packs if you got someone to carry you)
ancient maple
not everyone is nice enough to help out others
brave bramble
i think gear transfers should be allowed within a family account
ancient maple
that would be helpful...
lethal jackal
https://discord.com/channels/1118223835364331627/1261436907288789128 this was my suggestion for off school drops
ancient maple
i was looking to make sure i wasn't repeating any posts, sorry about that
lethal jackal
oh no problem, my suggestion was different, just thought it would be another use for off school drops/incorporate it into the pity system
