its interesting how adopting a hooking framework means rewriting some hooks lol
#Modding the MGS1 emulator
pure radish
these frameworks tend to easily allow hooking entire functions but not parts of functions
so its a different paradigm in how to design them
for some of them it's probably easier for me now to reimplement the original function
i had a hook on that function pointer call
but since I just have the source to the entire function here
... maybe not worth the hassle of crafting a hook there if the goal is more portable source
just clone the func, replace it in the game and instrument that function call in my clone
trying to get off the intel compiler here
to set the native closure name lol
why not i guess
pure radish
ayy, think ive got the most complicated hooks converted
have to do a bit of musical chairs with the CallNative funcptr but it works seemingly
pure radish
these are looking so much simpler haha
all the ASM blocks are gone as well, those are C/C++ funcs
sick osprey
Nice
pure radish
so i got to the point where I can try switching back to the MSVC compiler instead of Intel's
it actually blows up in some of the Squirrel templating stuff I did but in an extremely localised place
WEIRD
pure radish
oh
you can fix it by prepending "typename"
good language
so unambiguous compiler has to toss a coin
pure radish
dayum i got it to build with the microsoft compiler
im surprised it even remotely works with all the wacko shit its doing
it also shrunk by 100kb
pure radish
this whole time m2fix has been using the wrong allocator and somehow getting away with it
but the real one has some custom calling convention it seems
its like fastcall but with caller cleanup
pure radish
sorting that has made... all the non-MGS1 games more stable lol
scenic kelp
cdecl?
pure radish
nah as it uses ecx/edx for first two args
the func call was working fine with fastcall, except it was returning via the wrong stack slot (ended up trying to jump to stack)
and I can see callers doing cleanup (esp adjustment)
i wonder if some link time optimisation allowed it to relax some aspects of calling convention
anyway, this sort of inline asm is compatible with MSVC compiler and doesn't require Intel extensions so it's fine by me
pure radish
yuss, think I sorted all the fallout from the move away from intel and got a lot of stability improvements in the process
all the games are rock stable now
hopefully this makes more gfx work feasible because I was dreading all the manual hooking of stuff lol
but in general just easier for people to build it themselves and contribute now
🙂
this sqmalloc thing eventually defers to the usual malloc/realloc/free but does a bunch of extra stuff, somehow MGS1 didn't care but the other games occasionally reported heap corruption so sounds like sqmalloc does extra management of underlying allocations
fortunately it's just one function serving all malloc/realloc/free semantics
pure radish
now I ported it away from the Intel compiler, got it building as C++23, and pinched the HDFix 2.0 hooking and logging libraries I should really think about some better source structure to make it easier to navigate
pure radish
Debugged application message: [S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; no appID found.
Either launch the game from Steam, or put the file steam_appid.txt containing the correct appID in your game folder.
lol how polite
pure radish
lol
so now
castlevania advance only has an issue where it actually crashes when you close the game
how are these games with identical code having subtly different behaviour
i kinda want to get this allocator stuff right, think I just need a couple extra functions to call
why the hell castlevania anniversary is fine, contra is fine, idk, they are basically identical
maybe i don't even need functions
I just need to locate these two values
locating globals requires creativity
pure radish
i suppose on x86 its not so bad
when the instructions are just like XX AA AA AA AA
CISC moment
weird that they have their own allocator, which ultimately calls into standard library allocator, but only use it conditionally
if (cond) alloc_wrapper() else alloc()
i guess this makes more sense when compiled on console
i figure the wrapper here isn't ultimately doing that much
probably uses an entirely separate heap on console
pure radish
I think I have to disable a warning for the project on the Microsoft compiler lol
I get the same warning 700 times otherwise
templates bro
I also get a warning for code that is effectively #if 0'd out
in this case under #if _WIN64 while compiling for 32bit
red cradle
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2369900/Castlevania_Dominus_Collection/ well well well lol
woeful flare
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2369900/Castlevania_Dominus_Collection/ well ...
WELL WELL WELL
hey do you still have the updated version available? the link's dead
pure radish
did you buy it just to find out if it used m2engage
woeful flare
i was gonna send in an issue on github
unless that's something that tech savvy people (you) can do
pure radish
it only really becomes an MArchiveBatchTool bug if they fundamentally changed the file format
oooooh, this is weird
woeful flare
oh?
pure radish
it's using m2engage but in a different way to everything ive seen so far
these are unusual
woeful flare
i wonder if the DLLs are like, extra features that run alongside the game
and the other DLL is the integration of that, idk
though, i wonder if AC Dracula is the original version of the arcade game or the remake
pure radish
yeah the old key/seed thing is gone
key length is now 92, not 64
i assume the seed still needs changing or something tho
woeful flare
how... interesting
pure radish
so can unpack with
MArchiveBatchTool fullunpack alldata.bin zlib "Illegal function call" 92
what memers
i'm in 8-)
woeful flare
what are the roms lookin like?
pure radish
very different to anything seen previously
e.g.
and then "remake" just looks like... a game, not anything emulated
pure radish
there might be nds format stuff somewhere here
dunno
its just packaged completely differently so will take time to unpack
woeful flare
for sure
pure radish
they've reinvented a filesystem
I assume this points to offsets/sizes in files.bin
and files.bin is just a big blob of everything combined
pure radish
wonder what these DLLs look like
OH SHIT
ahghahahahah
the DLLs leak so many symbol names
this will help with MGS1
woeful flare
symbol names? that sounds familiar
pure radish
yeah names of functions basically
woeful flare
oh riiight
pure radish
in this case, symbols for the m2engage framework which apply to all games but so far I didn't have them
i think I see what they've done now
the DS core was obviously written by a different team or at a different point in time
emu_integration.dll is basically the emulator core
woeful flare
oooh ok
pure radish
then each game DLL is like the accelerators from MGS1
but basically contains each game recompiled
same ideas but different packaging for DS
pure radish
yeah, they do this a lot
woeful flare
OH it's not new
pure radish
looks like a lot more, might actually be all of it
woeful flare
that's crazy...
woeful flare
though the original DS data seems to still be here somewhere?
that's just me asking, since i can't actually see myself
pure radish
I haven't seen an actual .NDS file yet
very very early assessment but
it looks like they extracted the NDS files and repackaged the assets into a custom format
and then recompiled the code
woeful flare
i suppose something like that would help the games out
no slowdown or graphical bugs, etc
that way the games themselves can just be tweaked and not an emulator
pure radish
yeah, in MGS1 they did it for performance critical stuff or to allow it to boot without a BIOS
and.. to censor someones arse
woeful flare
and to replace staff ghosts 😔
i wonder if this thread should be renamed ldskjflkds
like, M2 shenanigans
i can't wait to go into the different assets and stuff
see if there's early menu graphics
secret dev notes...
hearty dirge
How are the games?
pure radish
i havent even launched it haha
pure radish
did you get that from the steam release?
woeful flare
mmhmm
pure radish
noice
woeful flare
freemote's still good here
looks like i'm in the manuals directory
023/image, but it has others too
hell yea, main menu graphics extracted
unfortunately, the "Konami's Best" variant of the cover is not in the files 😔
oh hello?
were sounds replaced...?
woeful flare
huh...
i see
y'know, i wonder why the korean version of OoE is included
is it really that different from the other versions?
or did they just want everything here
pure radish
they've been pretty thorough with all the m2engage stuff tbh
i don't really need this many versions of MGS1 either 😄
woeful flare
hmm... i've been trying to find these video files
pure radish
i guess once you've got one game in its not much more work to do the rest either
woeful flare
there's videos that play when you hover over a game in the title screen
pure radish
aren't they outside of the PSB?
windata/system/movie
maybe not but there are videos there
pure radish
np
lol
it was the first thing i noticed before i even unpacked it xD
bruh what is "remake"
is this literally a game constructed directly inside the m2engage UI
woeful flare
the remake of vampire killer
pure radish
its so very weird
the framework itself is a game engine
but they usually use it as a frontend for emulators
this has really changed my perspective on m2engage haha
woeful flare
i can't read it that well
pure radish
ends "bes"?
woeful flare
pikbes?
pure radish
"Pi" at the start maybe
pure radish
if you click the preview the watermark disappears
but, lol
hardly the most complicated graphic to render in-house
im still kinda amused about "Illegal function call" being the goddamn seed
nice meme
woeful flare
i could have done this through an email but https://fixvx.com/OddOttAllen/status/1828531211125620767
this is a bit funnier
pure radish
hopefully if they keep releasing stuff and i keep porting to it, we'll eventually attract another developer 🥲
woeful flare
i feel like i might be the first to discover this, i feel cool dlkfjlsd
pure radish
there's a whole two people researching this release in the world rn
and they're both in here
woeful flare
idk why i called haunted castle "vampire killer" earlier LMAO
like, vampire killer is MSX2 😭
pure radish
the "printf" we usually hook is implemented by the emu_integration.dll
not by game.exe
so this is the first hook inside another DLL i guess
thats the only hooking complication this time round, everything that works for MGS BC1 & Ray'z works here
what will be in BC2 tho
i need to get some code checked into git
before it piles up
pure radish
gonna write something to unpack those castlevania filesystems for shits n giggles
probably a 10 min job
yeeea buddy
interedasting
e.g.
Castlevania Dominus Collection\windata\alldata>python DraculaDominus.py dra01\data dra01\data\files
Castlevania Dominus Collection\windata\alldata>python DraculaDominus.py dra02\data dra02\data\files
Castlevania Dominus Collection\windata\alldata>python DraculaDominus.py dra03\data dra03\data\files
i assume if you extract the NDS games you'll see something comparable
woeful flare
i assume if you extract the NDS games you'll see something comparable
you're right
the right is the rom contents extracted through DS header tool
pure radish
woeful flare
it seems to me that we're looking at a full recompilation of these DS games in this collection
pure radish
yup
woeful flare
now what i'm interested in is what they took out...
"mv" is probably the FMV opening
i'm unsure what dwc is, it contains a utility.bin file
snddat is sound data
sc2 in the collection has a lot more files it looks like, 520 compared to the DS's 184
2 extra files in so in the collection, 420 vs 418
this is all that's in the font folder in the DS rom
i doubt it'd even be possible to recompile the collection's files as a DS rom though
there's probably some crucial things missing for it to even work correctly
or, there's things they tweaked to work on the consoles that will just break everything on DS
pure radish
I haven't found the original code anywhere yet, and it seems to use a recompiled version so no actual requirement for them to include it really
this is your AMD64 PC using a make-believe DS GPU, cartridge bus and sound chip but otherwise it's just a native port of the game
woeful flare
would you consider something like this similar to that zelda 64 recompiled project that's been around for a couple months?
if you've seen it before
pure radish
yeah that's basically what they're doing
woeful flare
this is so interesting
pure radish
MGS1 is like a halfway house
where it is clearly still being conducted / orchestrated by something resembling a full PSX emulator but has certain bits replaced with native code
this is more complete
things like BC1 are pure emulation so there's like a whole spectrum of options with m2engage lol
woeful flare
things like BC1 are pure emulation so there's like a whole spectrum of options w...
BC1?
pure radish
MGS Vol1 Bonus Content
woeful flare
oooooh
dawn flare
Damn, you two are still in here doing great work
The moment I realized the Dominus Collection was M2, I popped right back in here knowing there would be action
cerulean coral
Hi @pure radish , I wanted to ask you something. Do you know how I could insert in-game text, but not the normal text (drawtext, prinf, sprintf, etc.) but some that can be inserted in coordinates (like the texts of the items you pick up) I wanted to know how it works or how I can locate it in Guidra, but it is not for MGS, nor for PSX, but for N64, but with an indication in this game I could know how it works.
woeful flare
Damn, you two are still in here doing great work
thank you kindly 😌
nuggs has been doing most of the work tho
they're more like the person looking into all the coding and technical aspects, while i wanted to look into the images and sprites
though we did have a common interest in the DS roms themselves
i can say, as far as i can see there isn't anything that's unused within any main menu graphics
maybe there's something in haunted castle revisited but i'm not an expert with that game
dawn flare
thank you kindly 😌
Nuggs is the GOAT
woeful flare
i'm still a little proud of myself for finding the stock lightning image dlskjflksd
dawn flare
Er, that was supposed to be quoting the next message
But yeah, finding that lightning was hilarious
woeful flare
plus!! i could have all the raw images from the gallery
the order of ecclesia box arts are so stunning
dawn flare
Yeah, that's awesome
woeful flare
i really do think it's a missed opportunity from Konami to not include the "Konami's Best" box art for dawn of sorrow though 😭
woeful flare
i doubt it'd even be possible to recompile the collection's files as a DS rom th...
so somehow i did it but
yeah it doesn't work
the final rom is like 65mb and repacking just the files included in the collection makes it about 26mb
soooo needless to say, there's PLENTY missing to make a playable rom
pure radish
Hi <@351397657723535361> , I wanted to ask you something. Do you know how I coul...
you mean like text entities rather than debug / menu prints? that sort of stuff is so highly variable and engine-specific it's hard to offer any pointers for it
there's basically any approach to it existing in the wild
i can't really suggest anything without more context
pure radish
lol
as a result of switching to that separate heap allocator
with the non-standard calling convention
if I use a debug build of M2Fix now, i hit a standard library assert in stack protection
because it runs that check before my manual ESP fixup is applied
F
can fix it with #pragma runtime_checks("", off) in safetyhook.hpp
however it doesn't fix the size of my std::string being different across Release/Debug configurations and expecting interop with the game's instances
i should probably reimplement that string class anyway rather than just depend on luck (interop working out)
it is a bit annoying I can't use debug builds at the moment
C++ ABI considered harmful
template<typename T>
struct basic_string
{
static constexpr size_t BUFSIZE = 16 / sizeof(T);
union {
T* ptr;
T buf[BUFSIZE];
} storage;
size_t size;
size_t capacity;
};
thanks Raymond!
cerulean coral
you mean like text entities rather than debug / menu prints? that sort of stuff ...
Look, something like you see here "cardboard box" these texts appear in environments. I wanted to know how it would look in a decompiler, to see how they are created.
pure radish
yeah that is just going to vary wildly
on a per-game basis
I don't know for MGS as I'm not intimately familiar with the decomp, I only really knew this stuff for DP
could be a font, could be one big texture, could be anything really
tbh I've had more success with decompiling stuff by just seeking to discover anything and seeing where it leads rather than specifically trying to locate X
https://github.com/FoxdieTeam/mgs_reversing/blob/5979a3b6115106cf141994b414c2fb31376c60a4/src/Game/item.c maybe its here? seems to have a "character" role and has a lifecycle and animates etc
which looks like just a backend that is driven by the GCL scripts
so maybe is "specialised" by the scripts which will provide individual item attributes and names, but im speculating
its just so varied - bear in mind static analysis is just one tool and runtime stuff can help inform static analysis enormously
e.g. could try searching for string format functions and cross-referencing, or if you find textures for a font you could try hooking a texture load and waiting for part of the font to come up as a hit and cross-reference from there
you're working at the business end of things here, it's hard, there's no cheat codes
pure radish
aww ye the debug build works again
been a long time since that worked
"press any button"
press down arrow
no response
cerulean coral
https://github.com/FoxdieTeam/mgs_reversing/blob/5979a3b6115106cf141994b414c2fb3...
I think this is where it is, then I will try to see if it works. Thanks for the info
pure radish
oh so you are working on MGS1? I thought you were looking at N64 😛
cerulean coral
e.g. could try searching for string format functions and cross-referencing, or i...
Searching in other games is a bit complicated, I'm not familiar with reading and writing items, I only know a little about pointers in N Switch. Anyway, I'll apply what I learned here.
cerulean coral
oh so you **are** working on MGS1? I thought you were looking at N64 😛
Yes, yes, for N64. I wanted to see if I could add GamerTags on the characters for a "possible" multiplayer
pure radish
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
i was trying to debug this last painful heap issue in some of the 32bit titles, castlevania advance & anniversary both have it
and well, i just deleted MGSM2Fix.asi and it still happens
turns out it's actually caused by NVIDIA driver stuff
perhaps the ASI loader itself replacing d3d9.dll
but, hey, thank fuck it's not my problem
hopefully I can proceed now and do some reorganisation of the project and get all the reworked stuff into git
maybe i'll try to find another ASI loader that avoids d3d9.dll and see if that cures it
just so happened that 1. my stuff has to deal with the game's heap and 2. i had a known issue with that in the past, so i apparently took it more seriously than was required
okay, nope
it just crashes when u close it
thats a feature
nothing to do with mods
good game
woeful flare
pure radish
most people won't notice without a postmortem debugger set up i guess
pretty funny tho
i think im done stabilitymaxxing
doesn't seem to be any issues in my stuff now on any game
Dominus doesn't crash when u close it (^:
woeful flare
yay!
i think my only gripe is that it doesn't start in borderless windowed
but a lot of the konami collections are like that
sick osprey
Can't wait for the complete MGS1 decompile so someone can port it to the N64 with no voice acting, replacing it with text boxes.
woeful flare
i'm offering to chat with the guy in DMs about this
not to be like "erm you're wrong" but because it's pretty cool
pure radish
cool, if he thinks it's emulated he can point me to the file containing the emulated code
woeful flare
cool, if he thinks it's emulated he can point me to the file containing the emul...
he said that "we can't extract the assets from the collection yet"
meanwhile we have uh.... two days ago dslkfjlkds
woeful flare
cool, if he thinks it's emulated he can point me to the file containing the emul...
i haven't asked him yet, but if you're down, would you wanna share the findings in discord
like a group DM
red cradle
can't wait to see his reaction when he found out it's all discovered in MGS server rather than castlevania server lol
woeful flare
he's still stuck on them being emulations dslkfjhdslk
this would be an interesting conversation
pure radish
lol, lmao even
like its fine to speculate but present your informed guess as a guess, not as fact
i post all manner of hypotheses here
maybe we didn't need a DSVania expert, we needed an m2engage expert (^:
hearty dirge
he said that "we can't extract the assets from the collection yet"
meanwhile we...
So why didn’t you tell him how the game actually works
woeful flare
maybe we didn't need a DSVania expert, we needed an m2engage expert (^:
did you still wanna chat with the guy about it? he seems pretty curious
woeful flare
So why didn’t you tell him how the game actually works
he quite literally said it was a skill issue that ARM code wasn't found and that it should be in there somewhere
hearty dirge
Oh damn
hearty dirge
Thought he would be more receptive tbh
woeful flare
yeah you're kinda saving yourself there
that was early on tho
i showed him the extracted files and then he was all like "wait what!!!"
and now he believes that there's graphics emulation but not code emulation
pure radish
well, that's accurate
woeful flare
oh good, i was gonna agree with that
also a screenshot of me is on the castlevania reddit now cuz of him? not that i mind LOL
look ma i'm famous
pure radish
like a quarter of a DS emulator
but it doesn't have a complete emulator of anything
everything is native code
there's just a translation layer for GPU/etc
they definitely still had the source code, so just recompiled it
cerulean coral
like a quarter of a DS emulator
umm that doesn't have 2 screens, how do they deal with the touch screen?
pure radish
I think the left 2/3rds of the screen is the top screen and part of the right 1/3rd is the touch area
and i think they use the spare space for something else
woeful flare
they definitely still had the source code, so just recompiled it
the guy didn't think so, just cuz that wasn't "like konami"
i guess after what happened with silent hill HD collection? idk 😭
but that was over a decade ago
woeful flare
I think the left 2/3rds of the screen is the top screen and part of the right 1/...
also i'm unsure about this part, because the game accepts touch input from everywhere
you can 'tap' to spell out your name in OoE
on the DS, the games' gameplay was on the bottom screen while the map was on the top iirc
cerulean coral
(open traslate)
pure radish
cerulean coral
they definitely still had the source code, so just recompiled it
okay, that's new
woeful flare
unless i'm misinterpreting what was said with the screens?
pure radish
im just describing how they split up the single PC screen
woeful flare
i wonder if you can actually tap and stuff on the switch version in handheld mode
or the steam deck... that's a touch screen, right
cerulean coral
i guess after what happened with silent hill HD collection? idk 😭
They're going to need a lot of help there, specifically from Digital Eclipse, not M2.
It's a DS game, if it's not emulation and it's a port, then they removed the touch part, right?
woeful flare
no, you can still use touch functions in the collection
you move the right stick and click with the right trigger
you can also change the speed of the cursor by clicking in the stick
woeful flare
from what i see, the touch functions have been changed to not be used too much
the sigil things in Dawn of Sorrow have been changed to be button presses from what i remember
pure radish
okay, that's new
yeah its interesting how m2engage ends up used for multiple different techniques
cerulean coral
I'm watching a gameplay, it says that touch screen works in portable mode for Switch.
woeful flare
:0
cerulean coral
Could you try to see if there are instructions about this in the luascripts?
woeful flare
yeah its interesting how m2engage ends up used for multiple different techniques
and if we open up MGS delta and see this, what then
(that'd never happen dlskjfjldsk)
cerulean coral
I really like how it looks, they improved the visual aspect of the Advance version
woeful flare
don't we know it's on unreal tho
yea it is, was just bein silly
cerulean coral
well
pure radish
did you port MGS1 to N64
cerulean coral
pure radish
i think im now at the point where i've reworked the fundamentals, but want to large-scale reorganise the project source so it's not a complete fucking mess
probably need to prototype this before i end up somewhere even worse
cerulean coral
Well, I still don't know how to use the API (video, audio, controls) to port something, so it's an unknown world for me.
woeful flare
rather not expose myself unnecessarily to ego drama thanks
he found the symbols and is freaking out now, says he really wants to talk about it 😭
pure radish
what symbols
woeful flare
the debug ones
pure radish
in e.g. dra02.dll?
woeful flare
the screenshot he posted was uh... it looked like an elf file?
any of this look familiar
pure radish
he's looking at the switch version
woeful flare
interesting...
woeful flare
wouldn't be surprised if it's just the same code but different wrappers for each system
pure radish
i only have symbols for dll imports/exports AFAIK
which are obviously necessary for it to function at all
but that's an improvement over having... nothing at all with MGS1 (because its all in one exe)
yeah, i think the switch version has more symbols than PC then
i don't have those
woeful flare
holy shit
pure radish
might be valuable for me to dump the switch version lol
as that might reveal even more m2engage stuff that is applicable to all games
woeful flare
i'm assuming that you still wanna keep your distance then?
completely understandable, but the guy's saying that all of this is huge and that modders would really benefit from all this
he says a full scale decomp would probably be possible
pure radish
a leak of all symbolic information is pretty huge yea
woeful flare
i guess he just wants to know a lot more about your side of all this, the technical stuff
pure radish
like what lol
woeful flare
here, i'll ask for specifics
i'll admit, i worry that i've just been poorly regurgitating a bunch of the info shared here to them and i just hope i got some things right LOL
woeful flare
like what lol
pure radish
seems like he's answered the first two by himself
woeful flare
any of this look familiar
this was actually a screenshot he got from someone else 
pure radish
oh
woeful flare
"I wanna know how this shit works, and how I can make it work differently." he says
pure radish
i mean its only partially emulated because the data is structured radically differently and has almost nothing in common with the original release
and as that screenshot shows
it has been compiled for each native host platform
you're looking at switch arm64 code with the symbolic information of a DS game, that should be a pretty big clue lol
how to get the symbols is easy, load the executable in anything that understands the debug structures for the host platform
I don't have many because the PC version has been stripped so that only necessary symbols exist for DLL import/export
but looks like they forgot to do that for switch
which is an easy mistake to make because it's an unfamiliar platform using proprietary tools
woeful flare
a mistake that opens the door wide open for hacking these games
woeful flare
still, valuable information to the people who know what to do with it
pure radish
it's not going to port itself, but it does completely eliminate any semantic analysis you'd otherwise have to do
when every function has a name, decomp work is just a case of mechanically lifting machine code to a higher level language
you don't have to do any work to understand what you're looking at
as it tells you lmfao
woeful flare
i guess the switch version is the one they'll want to work with in this case, then
pure radish
yea
im interested in the switch version for different reasons lol
this could be a gift to M2Fix
woeful flare
do you think other games on switch that use this could be helpful as well?
i know i have at least one
the castlevania anniversary collection
pure radish
it depends, MGS1 on switch was stripped so it wasn't much use
so just case-by-case need to look at them
but if any one of them fucks up, that's a lot of info that applies to all of them because the core is not too different
and it's easy to infer the unknown bits if you have a slightly different example
vs being completely blind
can see how much all of them have in common given I've got the thing fairly easily ported to like 9 titles now
didnt really expect modding the bilinear filter out of MGS1 to turn into all this TBH
woeful flare
nor did i LOL
pure radish
butterfly effect
woeful flare
are you able to dump games from your switch, by the way?
pure radish
no
woeful flare
thankfully, i'm here then
pure radish
woeful flare
i got a day-one switch that i've been dumping games from for a while
...just gotta find my jig
ok i found it LOL
now i'm not really in a position to get another copy of the collection, but i can at least dump whatever games i have that use the same engine
which is at least one sdlkfjklds
i forgot if i bought the advance collection
pure radish
advance & anniversary are so similar they might as well be the same
so I'd guess if one doesn't, the other won't either
in all my testing they generally behave identically
whereas dominus is the most unusual we've seen so far
woeful flare
yup as i thought, i only have anniversary
pure radish
I think contra anniversary, castlevania advance & anniversary were all made at the same time
woeful flare
there's also the arcade classics collection
woeful flare
oh yeah, it was the third collection that came out alongside contra and castlevania anniversary
pure radish
pure radish
to steamdb we go
woeful flare
interestingly enough, ALSO includes haunted castle
woeful flare
oh i see :0
woeful flare
ok don't ask how, but i was able to get the dominus collection
pure radish
woeful flare
it's still downloading on my switch
woeful flare
finished
pure radish
woeful flare
the FUCK
pure radish
woeful flare
yeah idk how to get this working 😭
cerulean coral
No emulator would have quick support for new games, imagine N64 which still has bugs. That's why they closed that Switch emulator from the creator of Citra
woeful flare
No emulator would have quick support for new games, imagine N64 which still has ...
this is different
there's some key files missing, or something
red cradle
I guess that's a good thing? lol
woeful flare
all symbols leaked lol
did you end up getting a copy of the switch version?
or did somethin else go down
pure radish
i got the NSOs/NROs
woeful flare
is that another switch game format 
pure radish
nah its the formats of the executables themselves, not the entire ROM
aka specifically the bit im interested in
strcpy((char *)v39, "*Illegal function call");
MFile::SetCryptSetting(v39, 92LL);
pure radish
yes
woeful flare
yeah i finally got a working version
they're the equivalents of the PC version's DLLs...
i see now
willow sequoia
hows mgsm2?
pure radish
project has been in for some major surgery to make it easier to extend and work on in general
pure radish
tbh it was getting difficult for even me to work on it so could hardly expect others to contribute
pure radish
pure radish
the symbols leak changes so much lol
now i can finally work out the name of that custom heap allocator
i wonder if there's some tool i can use to transfer the symbols to the PC games
not sure how that can work besides statistical comparison of "decompiler" output
there's a project for this, what was it called
wonder how that copes cross-architecture
oh wow i had no idea how similar the native lua API is to the native squirrel API
cerulean coral
I stayed up late last night 
pure radish
doing what
cerulean coral
I'm finishing the tests 
pure radish
ah yes that's what M2Fix needs, unit tests
cerulean coral
@pure radish
cerulean coral
ahahaha
I want to learn more, but there are things I still need to know.
How to get the value of a pointer
pure radish
cast it?
cerulean coral
to obtain the coordinates of the actors
I've seen something like
#define playeroffset ((char *)0x800ae318[0]);
but I get nothing
pure radish
what do you mean?
cerulean coral
It's a line of code I saw in psx-modding-toolchain
pure radish
so breaking that down
0x800ae318 is an integer literal
(char *) casts it to a pointer to a signed 8bit array
[0] gets the first element
it's an lvalue not an rvalue, so it can be assigned or read
so doing playeroffset = 0 will set the first byte at 0x800ae318 to 0
printing it will, well, print it
if you're not seeing anything then either
the address is wrong
or
perhaps the compiler is choosing to eliminate successive accesses under the assumption that it's unchanged due to lack of visibility over what the game is doing
in that case, (volatile char *) might help
woeful flare
well, there's the integration DLL but uh...
what's this 
pure radish
its just the hooking of the print function, it's in the DLL rather than game.exe so needs special handling to hook the DLL instead
ended up with it looking quite elegant, thats all 😄
cerulean coral
so doing playeroffset = 0 will set the first byte at 0x800ae318 to 0
C is giving me a syntax beating
pure radish
pointer arithmetic rules
what sized data are you trying to read? 8bit? 32bit?
"PlayerPointer + 0x8" will be "offset + (0x8 * sizeof(unsigned int))"
jeez, trying to understand all of this is taking me back over a decade 😄
cerulean coral
I just accidentally moved Guidra to somewhere using Q-Dir and now I don't know where it is.
cerulean coral
"PlayerPointer + 0x8" will be "offset + (0x8 * sizeof(unsigned int))"
I had to put 0x8 because I can't use 0x20 to shift 20 bytes because for some reason that's how C works.
pure radish
0x20 bytes u mean?
pure radish
ayy
cerulean coral
I can't find my Guidra anymore 🥲 , I wanted to see how the operations of combining SVECTOR in X,Y work.
I have to know the coordinates of the object on the screen and then get an exact x & y value at the screen position, so that the letters move there.
hearty dirge
Mr. Rodriguez why are you using old psx emu
pure radish
PCSX-Redux isn't old
cerulean coral
first try
pure radish
SNAKE
cerulean coral
i not undestand this (puVar6 is addrs player position), gte matrix???
pure radish
that maps to
cop2r14 in
cop2r12-15 6xS16 SXY0,SXY1,SXY2,SXYP Screen XY-coordinate FIFO (3 stages)
so gets SXY2
16bit X + 16bit Y i assume
cerulean coral
It seems complicated and I can't do much in C for now
pure radish
my first big boy C project had a pretty steep learning curve too haha
cerulean coral
Yes, but this is different, seeing old code, old methods, COP2 stuff. There are no libraries to get familiar with, just the built-in console API.
pure radish
isnt that the ghidra extension hiding the details
it's probably using a coprocessor instruction there
swc2 or whatever the fuck it is
i guess not really "hiding" but going out of its way to avoid having to emit inline assembly
there isnt much to see for that one, the hardware writes some coordinates into your buffer
unless you want to look at some verilog, best thing to do is look at an emulator for how that command is handled
but do you really want to develop a complete mental model of the GTE implementation details
i don't really know how it all works, i just know that it does
i think that command literally just extracts a GTE register, it does no GTE computation for that one
obviously the other ones probably do, and that is getting the result
based on context sounds like you've found code that updates player position in 3D space, and surprise, 3D space is delegated to the GTE
I guess what you want is more like a GTE user's manual?
cerulean coral
I mean, I can't see what param1 or param2 contains, I've been doing breakpoint exec and nothing happens in that whole instruction and it's the only one that controls the items char, putting Nop return and the text keeps appearing. I assumed that the game would load the second executable in the rom ("mgs/slus...") but it seems that it's using the first executable in the root, which doesn't make sense since that one is to verify something or protection or so I think. So I can't be 100% sure what's going on there, I've just been guided by following pointers and offsets, that's all.
cerulean coral
https://github.com/FoxdieTeam/mgs_reversing/blob/5979a3b6115106cf141994b414c2fb3...
this functions
pure radish
i not undestand this (puVar6 is addrs player position), gte matrix???
ah, so in this screenshot you're looking at item_act_helper_80033704?
looks like the key thing there is gte_rtps, which does "perspective transformation"
its basically a conversion function
sends coefficients and input coordinates to GTE and gets the scaled coordinates back
i doubt you really need to mess with the internals of that, just work within either the input domain or output domain
3 of those calls seem to just set up inputs, 2 of them collect outputs, gte_rtps is the actual operation
cerulean coral
looks like the key thing there is `gte_rtps`, which does "perspective transforma...
Okay, should I use that instruction or is there another alternative?
pure radish
i dunno what you're trying to do that requires messing around with this
there is an alternative: implement the GTE semantics in software, but you might slow the game down 😄
the instruction is fine to use
cerulean coral
That decompiled function has many changes, in Guidra it looks like this
pure radish
are you sure thats the same function?
it might have the same rtps pattern in it but that could've just been something that gets inlined all over the place
cerulean coral
i dunno what you're trying to do that requires messing around with this
well basically it makes the text stay in the position of the object I'm looking at (only works in first person)
pure radish
maybe it's these?
gte_SetRotMatrix(&DG_Chanl(0)->field_10_eye_inv); gte_SetTransMatrix(&DG_Chanl(0)->field_10_eye_inv);
the parameters for those might change
im just guessing based on the context and naming
cerulean coral
are you sure thats the same function?
Yes, it is the same and the only one in the executable, but I already mentioned that during the game, altering that same memory region does not happen anything, so it must be taking the one from the other executable, I'm not sure how it will be seen from SRAM
pure radish
sounds like you're intentionally trying to change how the game uses 3D space so I guess the GTE is directly relevant to you lol
the GTE bit is basically a "pure" function
b = F(a)
cerulean coral
I'm just trying to do the same thing, and make the text follow the character. I'll probably leave it for later, I hope I have better luck ahaha
pure radish
you're reaching my limits when you get into gamedev 3D / GFX stuff 😄
cerulean coral
maybe it's these?
` gte_SetRotMatrix(&DG_Chanl(0)->field_10_eye_inv);
gte...
I like this, but I have a knowledge gap there, why would I call that function and it not return any data?
pure radish
I like this, but I have a knowledge gap there, why would I call that function an...
because it sends data to the GTE
for the upcoming gte_rtps computation
the whole thing is like:
gte_SetRotMatrix(&DG_Chanl(0)->field_10_eye_inv); // send to GTE
gte_SetTransMatrix(&DG_Chanl(0)->field_10_eye_inv); // send to GTE
gte_ldv0(pIn); // send to GTE
gte_rtps(); // GTE computation
gte_stsxy(pOut); // receive from GTE
gte_stsz(&z); // receive from GTE
GTE is its own HW functional block with its own set of registers and state
Ghidra is showing you the R3000 CPU side, not the GTE memory and logic
cerulean coral
the whole thing is like:
```
gte_SetRotMatrix(&DG_Chanl(0)->field_10_eye_inv...
That's very nice, but how would it affect, let's say, the position of the text? That thing about gte_stsxy and gte_stsz seems interesting.
pure radish
I would guess that depends on the value(s) at &DG_Chanl(0)->field_10_eye_inv exactly what transformation is done
this is a command/response sequence
gte_rtps is doing:
IR1 = MAC1 = (TRX*1000h + RT11*VX0 + RT12*VY0 + RT13*VZ0) SAR (sf*12)
IR2 = MAC2 = (TRY*1000h + RT21*VX0 + RT22*VY0 + RT23*VZ0) SAR (sf*12)
IR3 = MAC3 = (TRZ*1000h + RT31*VX0 + RT32*VY0 + RT33*VZ0) SAR (sf*12)
SZ3 = MAC3 SAR ((1-sf)*12) ;ScreenZ FIFO 0..+FFFFh
MAC0=(((H*20000h/SZ3)+1)/2)*IR1+OFX, SX2=MAC0/10000h ;ScrX FIFO -400h..+3FFh
MAC0=(((H*20000h/SZ3)+1)/2)*IR2+OFY, SY2=MAC0/10000h ;ScrY FIFO -400h..+3FFh
MAC0=(((H*20000h/SZ3)+1)/2)*DQA+DQB, IR0=MAC0/1000h ;Depth cueing 0..+1000h
where a lot of those things like MAC0 are GTE registers: https://problemkaputt.de/psx-spx.htm#gteoverview
cop2r24 1xS32 MAC0 32bit Maths Accumulators (Value)
cerulean coral
This is the most basic thing to display text, now I just need to implement the dynamic coordinates
red cradle
oh, this is for more into the 3D stuff in game?
red cradle
wow lol
cerulean coral
learning to use the internal instructions of the game, I want to go deeper
Another thing that is related to 3D is this but it is more reimplementations using GL
https://youtube.com/shorts/JQ-niVclPJw?si=_tuvfXISx5BhHpB8
pure radish
oh neat, managed to make Sqrat useful for calling Squirrel functions from C++ in an elegant way
now I need to rewrite all the cases where I do that xD
this stuff was so ass, extremely brittle
pure radish
surely even more I can do here to rice it, but it's heading in the right direction
much prefer 1 line definitions to all that crap in the first screenshot
cerulean coral
I'm going to dump the SRAM memory and see where that function is actually located.
cerulean coral
this stuff was so ass, extremely brittle
reading cd rom and writing to ram?
pure radish
that function submits a CD patch to the emulator
cerulean coral
The dump is worse, only one function calls printf, the decompiler doesn't work well with dumps.
They are probably heap functions?
pure radish
bear in mind the game has a code overlay system
so it swaps code in-and-out at runtime based on the level
so a dump will have different functions referenced or in memory than loading from PS-X EXE (which won't have any overlays at all)
any dump from a code point-of-view will look different in one area vs another (besides the "core" code that doesn't get unloaded/reloaded)
SystemEtc::IsLogining
IsLoggingIn?
In the beninging
cerulean coral
Great, I can see in this psx-redux log where the functions are called. I'll find out where that printf is called.
pure radish
cerulean coral
but it should be used with care, it spams me with cpu tracking logs
I found the function, Guidra was not able to disassemble
pure radish
that just means it hasn't discovered the function heuristically
you can force it to recognise code there
it's some key-bind (or right click menu might have it)
it's not magic, it tries its best with the information it has but it can't always find all code, nevermind all functions
pure radish
yeah, those are just the heuristics it uses
probably none of them as they might have unintended consequences
"aggressive instruction finder" would probably do it, but it might find code in what is actually data
if you know a function is there, you can manually tell ghidra
can't remember what the key-bind is - is it "D"?
i think at one point I changed keybinds to be more like IDA
usually if you give hints to ghidra it will re-analyse and find even more functions than what you told it about by analysing the call graph
cerulean coral
"aggressive instruction finder" would probably do it, but it might find code in ...
😲
pure radish
cerulean coral
This is definitely the item act_helper function and it looks much more beautiful.
and there are no things related to gte, what a relief 
pure radish
cerulean coral
The previous function used the same value for X and Y in Menu_Locate, it didn't make sense
pure radish
yeah i didn't really know why you were looking at that xD
cerulean coral
lol
pure radish
that looks more like https://github.com/FoxdieTeam/mgs_reversing/blob/676cff31afe365f236db39945b31d11f831abb18/src/Game/item.c#L240-L253
doesn't seem like particularly efficient use of overlays if they have multiple copies of that about
one of them is in the base executable by the sounds of it, just inlined, I'd figure better to not inline it but 🤷
cerulean coral
Yes, it is only called when you want to move a text over the item or in general when you are drawing a text like the magnifying scope "binoculars". Item texts flash, when they are not being drawn they are not used.
wanton phoenix
btw is the work to get higher resolutions working without the serious graphical issues they have still underway?
pure radish
atm ive been doing some housekeeping to the mod because it was becoming too difficult to work with, the idea of loading even more complexity on top of it in its previous state was kinda unthinkable
fixing that is complex, so requires some more solid foundation
the issue is understood but it'd have been a brutal experience resolving it without taking care of some things
konami is allegedly also looking at it themselves, so it can only really be justified if it becomes simpler to do in the mod
spending a huge effort just to tick the box a bit sooner and end up with something completely incomprehensible and even less maintainable isn't something i care for, personally
it's still on the list but im not trying to bulldoze a path towards it
if anything the mod has done a good job of telling konami what people want to see 😛
but beyond that it needs to provide things they definitely won't do longer-term, mindlessly hacking the game to shreds and making an utter mess of it all isn't a good way to go about that
we kind of lucked into a way of tricking the renderer to do what the mod currently does, but the limit of that was quickly reached
but im not stopping anyone else from trying to solve it quickly if they know more gfx stuff than I do 😄
it concerns even things like the directx shaders used, it's not really something you can just patch a byte here or there, it's a multidimensional problem and needs hooks all over the place and so i've been trying to make it easier to do that
project needs a better structure so im not just sticking code anywhere and everywhere before I'll even go near a problem like that 😛
this stuff will be beneficial even if konami comes out with an official feature, so it's easier to justify doing it
hope that helps
just imagine trying to do this sort of stuff throughout the entire renderer: https://github.com/nuggslet/MGSM2Fix/blob/master/src/patch.cpp#L116-L144
enough to induce psychosis in anybody
trust me, i wanna see it working more than anybody, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6yBHDvKUw
woeful flare
trust me, i wanna see it working more than anybody, but https://www.youtube.com/...
real
pure radish
hell yea bruh
interacting with the M2 squirrel API is now as easy as it would be if I had their source code
it's like, almost solely declarative
i think im happy with this so will move on
these are header-only too
basically rewriting the whole thing at this point
really hoping i can eliminate all this horrific squirrel stack stuff with some sqrat magic that condenses 7 lines into 1
painful
sick osprey
wtf mgs1 master collection modding renaissance out of nowhere?
woeful flare
wtf mgs1 master collection modding renaissance out of nowhere?
WELL, most of the talk in here lately is cuz of the new castlevania collection
but nuggs seems to have gotten some valuable info on M2's engine to make things easier for modding and stuff
(from my understanding)
pure radish
there isnt really a renaissance lol
thats not how any of this works
sometimes i can work on my things less sometimes i can work on my things more its called life
pure radish
my new font can't display that weird character 😦
wait, this isnt even the correct font
why does VS randomly reset the font
pure radish
pure radish
hmm
will this work
[2024-09-07 20:33:15.106] [MGSM2Fix] [info] MGS1Collection
yes
pure radish
C++ is shit
porting the project to Python
alright, nice
SQSystemProf<T>::GetName(); -> returns "MGS1Collection"
SQTitleProf<T>::GetName(); -> returns "MGS1_JP" etc
miles away from the way i used to do things
pure radish
at this rate, maybe I can tidy up this code by deleting all of it
there's not just refactoring going on here but also finding much simpler ways to do things
god the squirrel scripts are horrible
pure radish
this entire hook is no longer required lol
2nd thing printed equals 1st thing printed and 2nd thing printed requires no squirrel source-level hook at all
cerulean coral
pure radish
lovely stuff
pure radish
rewritten this bullshit
that v->_stack._vals[v->_stackbase + X] has to go, horrible
pure radish
i rewrite stuff and it keeps working
incredible
shame about all this <Squirk T> stuff though, really wish I could just specify <T> once and be done with it, lots of C++ requires violating DRY if u ask me
pure radish
no way will this work
cerulean coral
conker is driving me crazy, so many dynamic functions, rom compression, I don't even know how to modify the functions
pure radish
yeah, rareware stuff was like that
on DP we had tools to fully unpack the ROM
i wrote a tool to convert an ELF to their overlay/DLL format
eventually had my own overlay going
and could talk to the others
got to a point where it was just part of my build system to deconstruct and reconstruct a ROM with my DLL inserted lol
I'd probably recommend that tbh
because yeah it's going to very quickly get out of hand monkey-patching a game like that
you need a build system
im doing all this reworking of M2Fix because it got out of hand
i feel muuuuuuuch better about where it's going though
cerulean coral
Ah, ah, so many tasks and I have a limited life cycle of my brain.
The only build method I got from the decomposition repo, but it's 3 years out of date and I also didn't find any info about these functions, so they must be compressed in the data or rodata, I'm not sure...we need 1 extra nuggets to solve this mystery
Now I'll just put return instead of nop to see what happens to break things
glad frost
Well Konami released their latest Hotline today and sadly there was ZERO mention of the supposed updates they were talking about last time
i.e. for MGS 1 etc
glad frost
Nope
Zilch
Not a word or mention of it
Well, aside from tangentially in relation to questions about a Vol. 2
zinc ferry
Well Konami released their latest Hotline today and sadly there was ZERO mention...
at least we can see that they're actively working on it, so they didn't just silently drop it or anything
glad frost
at least we can see that they're actively working on it, so they didn't just sil...
Thanks, I was hoping this was the case, I do remember you mentioning these depot updates not long ago, it just seems like the sort of thing they would want to promote, no?
I mean if they had anything substantial in those
Maybe they do, but still, I would've thought if that was the case they'd promote it on Hotline
pure radish
it's in keeping with my assumption they will want vol1 to boost vol2 and vice versa for them to go quiet at some point
glad frost
Guess all we can do is wait; either until TGS or until MC 1 year anniversary
pure radish
lol did they add trading cards?
sick osprey
yup
quartz aspen
lol did they add trading cards?
Yeah, and they look really nice thanks to the Shinkawa art!
glad frost
Yeah I just came here to ask the same haha
I'm guessing this is a hopefully a good indication that something is coming for TGS or the MC anniversary
(i.e: a damn patch)
i'll be very, very happy if they somehow have magically upscaled or resolution-buffed MGS1
cerulean coral
I don't know if it's just me, or if there isn't much attention on this DS emulator anymore, because the people at NSO made a whole topic around GBA.
pure radish
NSO?
referring to castlevania dominus I assume?
I'd expect not much attention; you need to be more interested in the technical aspects of those castlevania games than general DS emulation
or very interested in m2engage specifically (like me)
there's not much for you unless you're in one of those very specific groups
pure radish
ah
cerulean coral
Before Gameboy Advance emulation came out on NSO, a very accurate emulator called "Sloop" was leaked. They even had a party with it. If they knew about this DS emulator in Castlevania, they would do the same, although I haven't looked at it personally to make sure if it's 100% emulation.
pure radish
its not 100% emulation
its like 10% emulation
the game was recompiled from source and talks to hardware shims in the m2engage machine
cerulean coral
ah
cerulean coral
ahaha the devs wanting to give proof of their work
Some even leave tools in the initial version
in Disney Classic Games Collection: The Jungle Book, Aladdin, and The Lion King (such a long name) this emulator was leaked...a Windows executable in a Switch port
pure radish
LOOOOOOL
make sure to pick up your copy of metal gear survive
every purchase = vol2 releases 1 month sooner
humble ravine
I'll get it once it gets to like 5€
Tbf the games individually at £12 is such good value for money
woeful flare
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/konamipublishersale2024
the master collection is $10 cheaper here LOL https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/metal-gear-solid-master-collection-vol-1-pc/
thank u green man gaming
copper goblet
unfortunately not cheaper enough, I can wait, patch is not even out yet anyways 
meager ice
30 bucks for Vol 1 would've actually been a somewhat reasonable price
fallen sorrel
[HELP] MGSM2Fix v2.2 BUG excessive zoom in the intro and in the water.
I'm using the latest version 2.2 of the mod that fixes the game, but at the same time it's broken when using the "MGS1 only: Enables render resolve scaling" settings leaving the game with a huge Zoom in the intro and when you enter the water. Can anyone tell me if there will be a fix for this? Because this feature is the only one that leaves the game with playable graphics, because Konami did a terrible job in this port.
my settings below in the mod are like this. "MGSM2Fix.ini"
;;;;;;;;;; General ;;;;;;;;;;
[External Resolution]
; Enter your chosen resolution.
; You can leave these at 0 if you want your desktop resolution used instead.
Enabled = true
Width = 0
Height = 0
Windowed = false
Borderless = true
[Internal Resolution]
; MGS1 only: Enables render resolution scaling.
; Width is controlled using the in-game settings. Leave the height at 0 to use the external resolution.
Enabled = true
Height = 0
Widescreen = true
pure radish
man i feel bad if this meme causes issues to be posted on the wrong project haha
someone should really fix that bug huh
pure radish
the strat is actually leave it broken so konami has an incentive to do it properly 😉
fallen sorrel
the strat is actually leave it broken so konami has an incentive to do it proper...
And will Konami do something like this? Almost 1 year later?
glad frost
And will Konami do something like this? Almost 1 year later?
We're all hoping that they have somethnig cooked up already and are waiting to reveal it at TGS tomorrow, or, at the latest, the 1-year anniversary of the MC release (October?)
I definitely have my fingers crossed but I'm also not holding my breath at all
In some ways it's beyond the scope of the project so can't really be expected
glad frost
Yeah I'm worried about reaching too much into that 😅
We can hope for the best
just uhh... it might not be as good or direct a result as it sounds based on that image
pure radish
yeah, we'll see what they're up to
my massive tidy-up won't last forever, hopefully we'll know by then
it's just that I know it's an enormous amount of work, basically adding a new feature to the engine, not really fixing a bug, so only want to do it if they make it absolutely necessary
tidying up M2Fix so it's sustainable and maintainable will always be useful no matter what konami does
if they're working on graphics at all then it's worth hearing them out as whatever they do I'll have to work with/around when the update goes live anyway
they could change the whole thing, somehow not please anybody, but render my initial results irrelevant and useless and I'd have to throw it all away
best to wait until the situation is "final"
I've not forgotten what I know about the problem so the work so far isn't a waste
timid hemlock
Resolution and control scheme updates just dropped for MGS2 and 3. It'll probably be a while before MGS1 gets an update, they haven't been active on steam for a good long minute
glad frost
Fuck
Sad news about the big patch today
Nothing on the table for mgs even though 2 and 3 got resolution bumps 😔
meager ice
Nothing as in nothing or not at the current moment?
glad frost
Nothing as in nothing or not at the current moment?
The only thing we have in regards to MGS 1 is:
The latest version will remain Ver.1.5.0. Note that this is not a patch for Ver.2.0.0.
pure radish
well they haven't fixed the bolloxed keyboard bindings yet either
and they were unambiguous about that being fixed in the future
glad frost
oh nice
pure radish
so we know something is coming
glad frost
so there is hope
pure radish
the keyboard bindings might as well be alphabetised rather than arranged conveniently
when you play on keyboard you're actually playing two games at once
the other one is twister
does that confirm a future 2.0.0?
timid hemlock
does that confirm a future 2.0.0?
fingers crossed 🤞
cerulean coral
vandalism is what they are doing with winamp on github, the issus are hilarious.
copper goblet
Nothing on the table for mgs even though 2 and 3 got resolution bumps 😔
imho I heavily doubt they'll touch anything resolution related with mgs1 given PS1 nature, but that's just me
glad frost
yeah sadly I think you're probably right
I would have expected news about it/an update about it if they were going to; i mean I would've expected it to come with this most recent patch if not
pure radish
I always thought it was weird the updates were synchronised up to now
I'd guess different teams are working on 2/3 and M2 stuff
glad frost
Yeah I do think that's odd too
pure radish
it means they can have things sat in the pipe for ages on one side
glad frost
i guess the fact they did synch them makes me think they should've had some info to go with it in regards to MGS1
who knows tbh
zinc ferry
Gonna be an hour long too
glad frost
i reckon it'll be mostly Delta but hopefully they throw us a bone
pure radish
