Modding the MGS1 emulator

[haughty iron]

Like... Wow

[pure radish]

tbh thats probably quite authentic to how it sounds in his ear

[cerulean bough]

LOL Its defo an issue that MGS3 plays 150% the volume but also

Turn it down on your volume mixer LOL

[haughty iron]

Audio clipping is still there

Even at low volumes

The audio is distorted

Lol this is sound engineering 101. Never allow your audio to clip/peak

[cerulean bough]

Really? Turning down the volume fixed it for me? Granted, its with Knight's audio fix

Lemme check

[haughty iron]

No if you listen closely, it's still distorted even at low volumes because the output itself is too high

Internally

[pure radish]

i would've never noticed had you not pointed it out

[haughty iron]

That's why you need the mod that fixes it

[pure radish]

that is something to be aware of

[haughty iron]

I noticed because I'm a musician and I pay close attention to that stuff

[pure radish]

sure, and that makes you a minority

[cerulean bough]

The mod being Knight's audio replacement?

[haughty iron]

But it's still apparent

Yeah the replacement

It's not perfect sure but it's much better

[cerulean bough]

Oh okay, thats exactly why I havent noticed it

LOL

I always run with the audio mod

[haughty iron]

Oh

Then there's no problem

You're listening to the PS3 files mostly, and some Switch files

[cerulean bough]

Yup, with the mod and correct volume, sounds perfect to me

[haughty iron]

He said 90% PS3, 10% Switch

I asked him what he's using there

[haughty iron]

Same, there's only one person in the comments claiming he's hearing nighttime birds during daytime

[soft falcon]

I first played MGS3 in a far more compromised way visually and audibly and I still quite liked it so I'm not super picky lol

[haughty iron]

But they haven't actually pointed out where exactly

Oh yeah I'm aware I'm nitpicking

[pure radish]

yeah bearing in mind people probably played it via composite signal

😬

[haughty iron]

But still, that audio is oof

And the issue is not present on consoles

At least that's what I heard anyway

No pun intended

[cerulean bough]

Yea PS5 is pristine in its audio

[haughty iron]

So weird, man

So weird

[cerulean bough]

It just prob means there was several different teams working on each console

Or different solutions were done with each aspect

[haughty iron]

Probably but you can't tell me they didn't notice the audio issues, at least in MGS3

[cerulean bough]

Its wierd considering PS5 still is technically based off of the Xbox 360 HDC port

[haughty iron]

Yeah that's why it's extra weird

At least they improved the controls

I'll give them that

I love the controls in the MC

[cerulean bough]

Oh I fucking HATE the MC controls LOL

[haughty iron]

And a patch made it so you interrogate people with L2

Why? They're so much better than Xbox

[cerulean bough]

Granted they fixed the annoying L3 bug for 3

[haughty iron]

And I hate pressure sensitive button controls

Far too many accidents

God that was so annoying

[cerulean bough]

Isnt it almost exactly the same as the Xbox HDC controls?

I love the pressure sens LOL

[haughty iron]

Almost yes but you don't have to hold down L3

It's a good idea in theory but it's far too easy to screw up

It's unstable

How many times have I accidentally slit someone's throat

How many times have I tried to fire a pistol only for Snake/Raiden to put the gun away because "lmao you didn't press hard enough"

[cerulean bough]

Thats funky since Ive NEVER had the issue of accidently shooting or slitting throats

Until the xbox layout LOL but thats my muscle memory fucking with me at that point

[haughty iron]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/632694-metal-gear-solid-hd-collection/61284633

A lot of people were complaining even back in the day

I guess you somehow got it right every time but it's not really stable

I hate it and I'm glad to see it gone finally

[soft falcon]

I like how mgs 3d handled interrogations too

[haughty iron]

Now you interrogate with L2, you slit throats with Triangle

[soft falcon]

Mapping it to d pad

[haughty iron]

You tap L3 to put your gun away, or to raise it

It's simple and smooth now

No room for error anymore

Holding L3 while aiming with the left stick was bad too, don't get me wrong

Xbox didn't quite fix it

[haughty iron]

That's pretty good too

So far, MC controls are my favorite

You literally can't make a mistake

Another thing I love about this collection is what they did with MGS1 with the extra menu

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dog-kiss-blow-kiss-deliciousness-gif-15701259

[finite peak]

Bluepoint completely screwed up mgs3 though

“Did you want to fast reload? Oops sorry, you’re stuck in animation now and can’t move!”

…..wut?

Bluepoint games had one job

Copy Twin Snakes

And they failed hard

[haughty iron]

Wdym? You can fast reload in the HDC

[finite peak]

One thing you can’t argue with, Twin Snakes got around the analog face button issue 1000 times better

It’s how I set up all the emulators

Just hold triangle

Done

[haughty iron]

Well there's no need anymore

[finite peak]

Well traingle/y

Yeah but bluepoint overcomplicated the hell out of it

[haughty iron]

For Xbox?

I'm still not sure what you mean

[finite peak]

Yeah its awful

[haughty iron]

If you mean holding L3 while aiming with the left stick, yeah, that's garbage

[finite peak]

I couldn’t even play mgs3 till spoopy fixed it

The MC controls are terrible

But Spoopypad saved the day

[haughty iron]

I can't play with modern controls, sorry

Aiming with L2 and whatnot

[finite peak]

Its not modern?

[haughty iron]

It's attempting to be

[finite peak]

Its literally the same

You just aim with L1

Thats it

[haughty iron]

I wanna aim with Square and left stick lol

Circle for CQC

[finite peak]

Every other button is exactly the same….

[haughty iron]

R1 for first person

[finite peak]

They are all the same lol

You just LB instead of L3

[haughty iron]

I got used to tapping L3 now so

[finite peak]

But he added a layer that hits it again when you let go so it makes the game playable

No more stuck animations

I HATE not being able to fast reload

[haughty iron]

You can fast reload with R2 double tap, no?

[finite peak]

No you can’t

You’ll be stuck in place

The game glitches out and you can’t move after that

They fixed it in mgs2 but not mgs3

It’s bizarre

[haughty iron]

Oh really

Huh I didn't notice

[finite peak]

Yeah if you double tap r2 then you are just stuck in place

[haughty iron]

That is a serious bug

[finite peak]

You can’t move anymore until you hit L3 again

Which is STUPID

[haughty iron]

Yeah that's def a bug

[finite peak]

it doesn’t even happen in mgs2 when you do the exact same thing!

Mgs2 is programmed to put the gun down for you automatically when that happens to cancel the stuck animation

[haughty iron]

Did it happen in v1.0 of the MC?

[finite peak]

Which is why mgs2 is fine

It’s still happening now!

Test it

[haughty iron]

I meant

For MGS2

Did it use to happen, and did they fix it?

I'm gonna test MGS3 now

This is bizarre

[finite peak]

Oh, no even on release it was fine in mgs2

But yeah, if you are moving forward and aiming with x/square, then double tap R2, you’ll be stuck in place until you hit L3

That never happens in mgs2

Its very awkward

[haughty iron]

I legit don't understand what you mean

🤔

This works exactly the same as RPCS3

Time to make a vid for RPCS3 too

[pure radish]

i never understand what he means

[finite peak]

No, go onto first person, hold square, and while holding square double tap R2 then try to run and see what happens

[pure radish]

when would u ever do that

[finite peak]

Or just hold square and tap R2

Ocelot fight

Crawling through grass

The pain shotgun trick

[kindred chasm]

Noone asked but I am now 99% on VR missions. Ninjas the last set

[finite peak]

The m60 volgin trick

Fast shots on the fear

Mosin nagant fast reload

[pure radish]

i dont need no tricks

[finite peak]

Not to mention the grenade cancel toss animations

Thats just off the top of my head

[pure radish]

the only trick i need is nikita sniper wolf

[finite peak]

Breh, I’ve learned so much cheese over the years

[haughty iron]

Oh you meant first person nvm

I never use that

Let me try tho

[finite peak]

First person, third person, doesn’t matter

[pure radish]

i only use first person to admire the scenery

[haughty iron]

Third person is the exact same

[finite peak]

If you hold square and tap R2 twice you get stuck

Du fuq???

ROFL

[haughty iron]

But I just showcased

[finite peak]

No you didnt

[haughty iron]

What do you mean

[finite peak]

You never once held square and tapped R2

Quick reload while aiming and you’ll find out

You get stuck

[haughty iron]

Oh ok let me try that

[finite peak]

Gawd do you people even play mgs3 or just like, fumble through it lol

[haughty iron]

I never actually hold Square while trying to reload

That's bizarre

You fast reload after letting go

[finite peak]

It’s a great technique in a ton of fights

Yeah I don’t do that

In fact my muscle memory has never trained me to do that

[haughty iron]

Even in The Fury fight

[finite peak]

Yup

[haughty iron]

You shoot with the nagant

then you double tap

You're not holding Square

[finite peak]

I do rofl

You lose too many frames if you don’t

[haughty iron]

But you need to let go in order to fire

[finite peak]

Terrible for speed running

[chrome path]

Arrogant.

[pure radish]

[finite peak]

The point is they knew it was a problem because they fixed it in mgs2 but not in mgs3?

Why?

[haughty iron]

Is this what you mean?

Am I supposed to get stuck while running and holding down Square, if I double-tap R2? That's what I am doing here

I still don't really understand what I'm supposed to do

[finite peak]

Alright hold on

[pure radish]

bro is a pseudo random deterministic game-breaker

[haughty iron]

I'm confused now

Legit

[finite peak]

Its super easy to demonstrate and I’m a little jealous you can actually enjoy it

[pure radish]

it's just a video game

[haughty iron]

I'm holding down Square, I double tap R2

and I don't get stuck in place

[finite peak]

Cuz the game is unplayable for me

Well not with the spoopy fix

[haughty iron]

I am not using the fix

This is vanilla

[finite peak]

Without*

Yeah I can’t play vanilla

Its garbage

[haughty iron]

But what is the issue with it? That's what I am doing in the video above

[finite peak]

No you arent

[haughty iron]

I'm holding down Square and I double tap R2

[finite peak]

But ill show you

[haughty iron]

Yes I am

That's exactly what I am doing

[finite peak]

I wish I could be blissfully unaware lol

[haughty iron]

I double tap R2 while running with the left stick and holding down Square

and Snake keeps running

[haughty iron]

Literally, it's in the video

[kindred chasm]

Obviously you should be throwing your knife at them as well if you execute it properly instakilling the bosses

[pure radish]

kojima world order

KWO

[haughty iron]

Alright then I wanna see what you mean

[chrome path]

Can you rephrase this in a way where you aren't eating your own snake?

[finite peak]

I wasn’t even exaggerating, I wish I could play it vanilla and not hate it and want to burn the konami building down lol

[haughty iron]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves

He's obviously onto something

I wanna see it

Because I am holding down Square in the last video

[chrome path]

I just don't like his attitude. Let him cook.

[red cradle]

yeah, kinda nuts over a video game huh?

[chrome path]

He's probably young. I'll stop with the shit.

[finite peak]

i’m almost 40, I’m just getting less and less tolerant of stupidity in my old age and I’m not referring to anyone here but those corpo morons

[haughty iron]

Nevermind about that, can you showcase what you mean?

[finite peak]

Yeah I’m on it

[haughty iron]

Alr

[finite peak]

One sec

[cerulean bough]

Oh yall are talking about the annoying holster issue

Where Snake auto raising his gun and locks his movement

I fucking hate that shit

[finite peak]

Yeah in MGS2 they fixed it

[cerulean bough]

It drives me up the wall LOL

[finite peak]

spoopypad fixed that btw

[kindred chasm]

They fixed it in MGS2?

Oh

[finite peak]

Yeah it doesn’t happen in mgs2

[cerulean bough]

Chyea SpoopyPad is a god send of a profile

[kindred chasm]

Thought that was the worst offender

[finite peak]

Naw, MGS2 it was auto fixed

you run forward and it holsters automatically

But spoopypad fixes mgs3

[kindred chasm]

Also time to get my mgs1 100% virginity

[cerulean bough]

Its even more annoying since Bluepoint relagated to make the controls overlap in the most funky ways

Causing issues like this to occur

[finite peak]

Which makes me wonder why they didn’t just copy twin snakes

For all of twin snakes faults, they did solve that problem better than anyone else

[cerulean bough]

Literally, just use the analog triggers that EVERY modern controller has

[haughty iron]

Oh so it happens mainly when you crawl, to my understanding

[finite peak]

Mainly but it can cause strangeness in other places as well

Cuz he’s holding the gun up it can cause issues hitting walls or trees properly when trying to hide

It also causes problems in boss fights with movement sometimes

It’s really annoying

[cerulean bough]

Yup Ill randomly shimmy against a wall

And itll just freak out the game in certain angles

Theres just alot of funk in how they overlap controls in the Bluepoint Xbox controls unofrtunately, and then the further modifications to em in MC

Just fucked it up even more LOL

[finite peak]

Exactly!

Spoopy is a genius though the way he got around that, he’s a steam profile wizard

[cerulean bough]

And even SpoopyPad for all its black magic in reconfiging steam controls

Still gets tripepd up on whatever happened to these controls

[finite peak]

Every now and then true

[cerulean bough]

Chyea Spoopy's layout defo makes it a million times more playable

[haughty iron]

Where's this profile, I wanna try it now

[cerulean bough]

Its Steam Controller Configs

[haughty iron]

Even though I have never ran into this issue because I pretty much never had to deal with it

[cerulean bough]

Open the controller menu in steam overlay when in game and you can easily find it

[finite peak]

Yeah just search community profiles and look for spoopypad

[cerulean bough]

Itll show community profiles for the game youre on

[finite peak]

Oh one thing though, make sure you select all devices

Cuz I can’t remember which controller he used for it

if it was ps5 or xbox

[cerulean bough]

As much as Spoopy fixes the control thos, Ill marry whoever fully configs the set up to plug in my DS3 to make it work

Or even

rebind controls to use triggers for pressure sens actions on modern controllers

[finite peak]

Or better yet just give it the twin snakes treatment

[haughty iron]

Uh I've never done that so Idk what you mean

[cerulean bough]

AKA what Bluepoint/Konami shouldve done way back then LOL

[haughty iron]

This?

[cerulean bough]

Yup now click on the layout

Itll show several tabs of recommend control, templates, and community layouts

[kindred chasm]

Just use the deck setup

It's trigger to look/aim and bumpers to item menu

[haughty iron]

This just takes me here

[haughty iron]

Where?

[kindred chasm]

Press the button above view layout

[haughty iron]

This it?

[kindred chasm]

Holy shit discord is not happy

Trying to take that one picture took forever

Yes

[finite peak]

Oh, so you’re still playing mgs1 without the analog fix as well

Or did you just use the profile link on nexus?

[cerulean bough]

Nope thats the screen you get if you directly view a layout

[haughty iron]

So if you hit "Apply layout", you're not getting the layout?

[cerulean bough]

Apply layout? Now Im confused where you are LOL

[haughty iron]

I'm right where the pic is at

Lower right

tap Square to apply layout

[cerulean bough]

Yea thas the wrong screen, you should be where Kyo posted

[haughty iron]

That screen was the screen before that

If you click on the screen he posted, it takes you to the layouts, and then you can search for spoopy, and after that it takes you to where I posted

asking if you want to apply the layout

[cerulean bough]

Oh so you found the Spoopy layout

THen yea, apply it LOL

[haughty iron]

Yes

Ok yeah I did

Cool

[kindred chasm]

I added a turbo button so steam says it's my creation

[haughty iron]

Another reason why I fucking hate pressure sensitive controls is that they got abandoned no less than 10 years ago (PS4), and now we gotta deal with this shit

Because everyone's trying to get around them

[finite peak]

steam://controllerconfig/2131650/3075084780

[haughty iron]

They should never have existed in the first place

[finite peak]

There just copy and paste that link in your browser spyro

[haughty iron]

Well I found it

It's ok

Thanks tho

[finite peak]

oh lol

[haughty iron]

But my god, pressure sensitive controls suck so much

[cerulean bough]

👀

Ok we get you, you dont like em LOL

[haughty iron]

It's one of those shit gimmicks that age horribly and lead to situations like those

[cerulean bough]

Also I just realized

This is the MGS1 emulation thread, why da fuq have we been talking here

[haughty iron]

Tru

I'm gonna stop lol

[finite peak]

I dunno, it started with talking about johnnys ass then ended up here

[haughty iron]

😔

OK so to get back on topic

Can we disable the patch that censors MGS1? All jokes aside, it's not cool to censor blood

[finite peak]

Yeah are you using the analog profile for mgs1????

Cuz if you’ve never used the community layouts you aren’t getting real analog movement

[haughty iron]

I haven't tried the mod yet

Waiting for the uprez option

[cerulean bough]

Oh defo try out the MGS1 fix, its fantastic

[haughty iron]

I saw the features and they look great but I don't wanna play in 240p

[cerulean bough]

Oh blood is cenosred in MGS1?

[haughty iron]

Hold on

It is at least in the German version

I haven't tested it myself tho

Some versions are censored

[cerulean bough]

OH I heard of that, but thats only in the German and some other EU versions tho

[haughty iron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/17fe9cq/why_is_mgs1_censored/

Look at the video

This is awful

[cerulean bough]

Yea, I already saw that, I thought you meant just in general

[haughty iron]

Cringe

Well

[finite peak]

oh that's lame

[haughty iron]

Johnny is censored in the USA version

Idk what else they changed

[cerulean bough]

Yea the underwear thing is the only thing I know thats been a consistent "censor"

But even then

Meh

[haughty iron]

Yeah well

[cerulean bough]

I dont exactly care LOL

[finite peak]

Well, there's a couple of different ways to look at it

[haughty iron]

It's not too bad but it's them who make a claim of preserving the original aesthetic or whatever

Def not a deal breaker

[finite peak]

honestly I think they just didn't care

they just did the bare minimum to get it on the steam store and make money

[haughty iron]

Well they cared enough to put brown pants on him

He was already censored

That's why it's odd

It's not like the game showed his ass

[finite peak]

hot take, they did it because it was easier to just do a universal patch on all the games

[haughty iron]

Maybe?

[finite peak]

since it's using a squirrel injector for these patches it was just easier to slap the same thing on every iso

[haughty iron]

Yeah but it's also strange how they changed the color lmao

Why even bother

JP version has gray pants

So weird, man

Why bother

[cerulean bough]

LOL probably that

The entire format of how M2 handled all the ROMs is just plain weird

[finite peak]

Oh I forgot to tell you, i did find something for reshade, but reshade doesn't have HDR only options

[cerulean bough]

It just screams to me that these MC ports were just rushed out

[haughty iron]

Oh so it's impossible to add the HDR CRT filters?

Are they exclusive to RA?

[kindred chasm]

https://twitter.com/harakiriartist/status/1663331312537665541/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1663331312537665541&currentTweetUser=harakiriartist

[cerulean bough]

Somethings have a great deal of care and passion to them, like the new pause menuing

[haughty iron]

Says the page does not exist

[cerulean bough]

And then theres just everything else like the analog controls, dithering, bilinear blur

[haughty iron]

It's so trippy tbh

[kindred chasm]

Tf?

https://x.com/harakiriartist/status/1663331312537665541?s=20

This works?

[haughty iron]

Yeah lol

[cerulean bough]

LMAO gotta love white blood

[finite peak]

Dear god I can't unsee that lol

[kindred chasm]

Seeing that screen of meryl just made me remember this

[haughty iron]

And green blood for Ganondorf in Zelda OoT

That is some kind of censorship

[red cradle]

white blood is always funny to me lol

[haughty iron]

So, going back on topic again, is it possible to remove all that shit?

Nobody wants this

[kindred chasm]

Pretty sure the files in question is inside alldata.bin

[woeful flare]

"i'm so fucked up..."

[timid hemlock]

Yes, Jayveer found a json script to enable or disable any of the patches

[kindred chasm]

Oh nice

[timid hemlock]

It's this one:

{
"INTEGRAL": {
"patchs": [
{
"file": "patch.bin",
"memory": 0,
"offset": 2097152
},
{
"data": [
32,
32,
83,
84,
79,
82,
65,
71,
69,
32,
50,
32,
32
],
"memory": 0,
"offset": 74204
}
]
}
}

So I would say its just a matter of time before someone mods it in. Probably nuggs, he's pretty much carrying mgs1 modding right now lol

[soft falcon]

To be fair it is in character for Johnny to have brown pants

[haughty iron]

Lol

[keen wharf]

LOL

This type of censorship would bump up the age rating

[finite peak]

I mean I can port it, package it, and stabilize but you’re right, he’s pretty much the titan, I’m trying to learn how it all functions but I’m only so so when it comes to code

[haughty iron]

@finite peak I'm trying out different types of CRT filters from the CyberLab package but I have no idea which one(s) is (are) suited to the PS1

Did you have any luck figuring it out

The names list other consoles but not the PSX

[pure radish]

I mean FYI there are like 600 patches per game version

it will take some time to figure out what does what

disabling them is the easy part

they seem to be in some sorta consistent order between game versions, so that should help a bit

[haughty iron]

If I had one request, it would be to decensor the games

If it's possible

Censored art is always bad art

[pure radish]

i mean im just gonna try and identify all the patches at some stage

[haughty iron]

Thank you

[pure radish]

if there are fairly self contained sets of patches we can label them

but yeah it is 600 lmao

not 600 bytes even

600 entries in that patch table each with a variable length byte string

hopefully i have a few ideas in mind for making it a bit quicker

[haughty iron]

Shit that's bad

Then maybe I am asking for too much

I mean it's whatever

It's just a stupid underwear

[pure radish]

not really doing it just for underwear lol

it's important to understand their changes

• I also want PSX buttons

[timid hemlock]

Damn, that's way less simple than I thought it would be 😮

[finite peak]

Hey nuggs, would you mind explaining how those patches work and how we would actually ID the changes

[finite peak]

More specifically just the process of ID’ing them

[haughty iron]

I don't know. There's no mod for that

Yes, it could

But MGS1 is not a port

It's being emulated

So it's not the same logic as 2 and 3

Then it's only a matter of time

[pure radish]

other than 600 patches yeah no difference

[pure radish]

i can't really answer your question yet

i've been busy with non-MGS for the last day or so, can hopefully start looking tonight

at the moment it's just ideas in my head lol

we're prob gonna need some tools for this too

just to manage the sheer number of them

if it was 1 or 2 i'd just do it by hand

with 600 the most i wanna be doing is analysis and categorisation

[finite peak]

I’m saying if we understand the process we may be able to split up onto teams and work down the line to ID them

[pure radish]

oh yeah but, not quite there yet

[finite peak]

Into*

[pure radish]

need to still actually work out the process

[finite peak]

Gotcha

[pure radish]

to the iso

yus

this is an argument of semantics of how it's packaged

600 patches is significant

i mean, not right now, nobody has done that

but it's possible obviously

[finite peak]

Patches are injected on real time VIA squirrel

[pure radish]

obviously, they have also modded it!

[finite peak]

It doesn’t change the iso itself

Thats why the only difference between the original iso and these is the sony header

It was replaced to point to the patches but matches it’s size down to the kb

If you swap the header these isos will boot in any emulator

You mean like an actual ppf modded iso?

[pure radish]

are there even mods for the psx game

[finite peak]

Oh yeah

Lots

In fact armored core just got one adding in analog support

[kindred chasm]

Imagine the 550 of 600 patches is just codec dialogue referencing new button prompts

[finite peak]

It very well could be

[pure radish]

theyre not

i mean they're also identifiable as they're per-controller and named as such

and there aren't 500 of them lol

[finite peak]

What happens if you just disable all the patches?

[pure radish]

i kind of answered that a few days ago

you get all the achievements unlocked, for one

[finite peak]

I meant other than johnnys ass lol

[pure radish]

otherwise it's just the bog standard psx game

his ass is also not blurred

[finite peak]

So…the question is why not just remove them all then?

[pure radish]

i mean it breaks lots of shit

[finite peak]

Like?

[kindred chasm]

Johnny's unpixelated dick would make the game run 1 frame

[pure radish]

i literally just gave you an example, achievements, but all the other hooks into the game

yus

[finite peak]

Oh so no controller support anymore

Since it uses steam input?

[pure radish]

the inputs should still work as they are mapped externally

[finite peak]

The only problem with this is you could only replace them unless you modified the header

The iso

You have rewrite the header of the iso to point to new patches

Or at least this is the working theory, until we actually get into it, we don’t know for sure, but I’m going by all the information we have so far

[pure radish]

sounds like baseless speculation to me

i don't know much about the psx disc filesystem but i'd expect that more complicated mods may break the existing set of patches

[finite peak]

Not baseless, I’m going by what is written in the header

The header seems to be pointing to the patches

The original sony header on the other hand is essentially just a dummy file for the bios to boot

the “wobble” data as it’s known

Not at my computer right now, but way more than just offsets

They essentially replaced an entire dummy file with data that name matches with a lot of the patches

Or at least it seems to

It’s definitely pointing to something, it’s not there for no reason

[pure radish]

[finite peak]

However, all of this gives me an idea, if the patches are what match the functionality to steam, would it be possible to send those patches and the steam input to a different emulator altogether and use the launcher

Because obviously those achievements are tied to the patches

The only problem is how does this emulator bypass the “wobble” data?

Whats the trick to that?

Wait a second…..nuggs is it possible to make the launcher use a different exe?

[kindred chasm]

Isnt there only 1 exe for 1

[finite peak]

Or wait, maybe trick the launcher!

[pure radish]

not really following a word of this

[finite peak]

I have an idea, I’m going to try it later

[kindred chasm]

Prob make the launcher use duck instead of m2

[pure radish]

that is not simple

[finite peak]

Exactly, if the patches are responsible for the steam functionality, its possible

[pure radish]

no it's really not that straightforward

gosh

[kindred chasm]

I doubt it is, i think konami made m2 like that

[finite peak]

Maybe, maybe not

[pure radish]

for a fact man

[finite peak]

Either way it’s worth a shot

[pure radish]

do you think konami made the virtual psx issue calls to the steam api

that is not how any of this works

[kindred chasm]

Another problem is getting patches injected. Idk if duck does that. Even if it fid its probably made for m2

[finite peak]

But if you can fool the launcer to use duck station and hook the patches it could bypass that@in theory

[pure radish]

you can't fool the launcher

that's months of work to replace the emu core

[finite peak]

Never say anything isn’t possible

[kindred chasm]

Your funeral

[pure radish]

the first mistake is assuming there is a separate launcher to "fool"

it's all one tightly coupled product

i've said it's possible to replace the emu core before, but it's not like you're going to find a line of code that says m2.exe and you can swap it with duckstation.exe

it's an extensive replacement of the EmuTask backend

the M2 emulator has binding directly into squirrel

it gets slightly ship of theseus if you think about all the possible ways of replacing the emulator, but if you don't want to rewrite the entire frontend this is what it will take

[pure radish]

even the lz4a gets patched i think

there's definitely patches that don't get applied to the washed rom bins

putting together a script now to handle this but I think I'll have to go back to decompressing lz4a before long

oh thank god

lots of them are pretty obvious already

\x00\x07\x06Meryl\x00\x07\x07Otacon\x00\x07\nRed Meril\x00\x07\x0bRed Otacon\x00

what is a red otacon

so there's about half of them that are unknown

some are naturally duplicates of others but for each cd

so maybe not as bad as it first seemed

[soft falcon]

Maybe something to do with the ketchup?

[kindred chasm]

Shiny pokemon lets goooooo

I wanna say its the injury. Ie, otacon peeing, Meryl getting shot

[chrome path]

These resemble debug scripts regarding Demo mode, where you could watch all the cutscenes back to back.

You select Meryl or Otacon route, in the finished game. But There's leftover text for Red Otacon/Red Meryl which was theoretically the alternate costumes like tuxedo or sneaking suit meryl or spiderman greyfox.

https://tcrf.net/Metal_Gear_Solid_(PlayStation)#Unfinished_Demo_Theater

Linked for relevant section.

[kindred chasm]

Isn't this for a patch though? Why address an unfinished demo?

[chrome path]

I said "Resemble." I don't even know the context of the discussion, sorry.

[kindred chasm]

Basically there's patches inside alldata.bin which gets injected into the game through m2. It's how Johnny gets his underwear in versions that never had it, or using button prompts that never existed at the time for example

[red cradle]

don't know if there's a way to injected the patches/mods outside the alldata.bin file to achieve modding, otherwise users have to unpack the bin and put the mod files in it and repack it.

[timid hemlock]

But it's a good point. Some of these patches may have been for development.

[pure radish]

i plan to allow this

[fringe shore]

https://www.konami.com/mg/mc/news/us/en/update_131

New patch out

Mostly “minor fixes”

[pure radish]

you have my attention

oh

nothing for mgs1

💩

on the other hand at least nothing will break

[haughty iron]

Patches are usually bad news for modders

Having to upgrade your mod to the latest version of the game can be a headache

[pure radish]

hdfix and m2fix are pretty robust tbh

no offsets, its all signature based

[haughty iron]

That's good then

[past sonnet]

Id imagine that if there is no way to do this that someone would have to make a mod manager like snakebite since it does the same thing for mgsv

[finite peak]

I got the steam launcher to launch duckstation instead of the M2 rofl

it now recognizes it as METAL GEAR SOLID.EXE

now I'm about to try some mad science, I have no idea if this will work at all but I'm yoloing today!

[pure radish]

it's easy to get steam to launch it

that's a completely different issue

[finite peak]

I just thought I might be able to trick it into running the iso in duckstation with all the patches

sure it was a long shot but still worth trying

[pure radish]

software isn't magic

we know how this all works

if there are gaps in your understanding it might be worth trying to get those questions answered rather than exuding overconfidence and fake hype

the game has been reverse engineered enough for us to know the basic idea behind how the achievements work and such

even if the individual 600 patches haven't been named, the fundamentals of how it works are understood

[finite peak]

You've clearly never seen things work the way I have sometimes lol

Like I said, it was a long shot, but at least worth trying

[pure radish]

you don't know what i've seen mate

[meager yacht]

I was doing something similar with the dosbox version of Doom on Steam. I wanted Steam to run GZDoom instead of the old clunky DosBox. Just renamed GZDoom.exe to DosBox.exe, and everything worked!

That was back in 2012 or so.

Good times.

[soft falcon]

Doesn't look like it's a pc patch either

[fringe shore]

Sorry guys I’m an idiot I thought I was posting that link in the modding general, apparently I’m not that awake yet

Yes seems that way, but at least some progress 😅

[pure radish]

https://github.com/nuggslet/MGSM2Fix/issues/9

that isn't happening for me and i have the latest definitions lol

wonder what triggers it

lots of apparent false positives if you google phonzy.b!ml

[timid hemlock]

Not happening for me on win10 either

[woeful flare]

i don't get a quarantine either

[pure radish]

wtf

its not like microsoft would just tell you how to evade the signature either lol

[timid hemlock]

I wouldn't worry about it, if more complaints come in then maybe. False positives are basically a feature of windows defender.

[pure radish]

yeah not much I can do about that issue, build it yourself if you're concerned

[finite peak]

well my steam deck came in today!

I'm going to be working on porting all this to it soon

oh a false flag attack on the mod

gotta love those

[timid hemlock]

Perfect Dark port is coming along nicely. The guy is grinding it out daily lol. Gets better and better all the time. I really can't wait to play it.

I am very excited to see which kind of port MGS recieves when the decomp project is finished. Talk about grind, jeez

[finite peak]

yeah ever since the de plank method was perfected things are moving quick in decomp world

I'm really mad at how perfect this game is out of the box on the steam deck lol

it only needs the analog fix and the biliner filter removed

and it's perfect lol

I mean, you could put the CRT filter on it, but it's not nearly as neccesary as larger screens with better resolutions

it has no input delay and doesn't even need to run in windowed mode or anything

[haughty iron]

Yeah, 240p looks good on a small screen

But jfc it looks like dogshit on 55" 4K

[finite peak]

I'm really mad at how great this is for these games lol

it's like this collection came out for deck users

maybe not the worst call for konami considering how popular it is

but still

this is definitely my new emulation machine!

[haughty iron]

I believe this is just a coincidence because the games didn't even run on the Deck

2 and 3 just crashed

You needed fan made fixes to even make them work

[finite peak]

oh right, I forgot about that

is that still the case?

[haughty iron]

I don't know

I don't own a Deck

I just read it happened during certain codec calls and/or cutscenes

The game would just crash

That's all I know

[soft falcon]

Some games seem to run better through proton

Like some old games don't need tweaking to run on it

[fringe shore]

I love all these old games that are getting native ports. I checked out the PD port recently too and it’s awesome! I hope they’re able to port the Xbox assets to it like they recently did with Ocarina of Time using the 3DS assets

2 and 3 just need an xaudio DLL from windows to make work and a command line. Check out protondb. It’s a great resource for that type of stuff. You’ll need to grab the DLL manually though or you might be able to find it on a random site. Make sure it’s the 64bit version

https://www.protondb.com/app/2131640

Works for 2 and 3. Also I recommend using the latest GE Proton otherwise some of the videos and sounds won’t work

[timid hemlock]

Yes! Also hope the inevitable Goldeneye64 port gets the xbox 360 assets. That would be amazing.

[haughty iron]

At this point I am hoping for an MGS1 decomp

We gotta get rid of emulator bs

[pure radish]

i feel like no version of MGS1 would please some people

[haughty iron]

Think of SM64 PC port

You can add whatever features you want

[pure radish]

there is a GOG port

it is native

[haughty iron]

It pleases everyone

[pure radish]

go play that

[haughty iron]

Yes but it has issues

24 FPS cutscenes

[pure radish]

right

like all games

[haughty iron]

No rumble support

Botched Mantis fight

[pure radish]

just proved my point i think

[haughty iron]

That's why I brought up the SM64 port

People pick and choose what they want

The GOG version is missing features

[haughty iron]

So it's like, if it was decomped, we'd have all the basic features from the get-go

Because the PSX version has all the features it should have

The GOG version is at an inherent disadvantage because it's missing certain features

[pure radish]

it also doesn't need decomping

and is already for your platform of choice

those features could be patched in

[haughty iron]

Well, 30 FPS cutscenes hasn't gotten patched in

Neither has rumble support

Yet

[pure radish]

psx version also hasn't been decomped

argue for decomp on its own merits but its not exactly a necessary step to improving pc versions

[haughty iron]

It'd be amazing if it did though because we'd start at a base of a version with all features

Not a gimped one

[kindred chasm]

Yes. Use proton experimental, put xaudio2_9.dll in the base folder, and put in for the launch option
HEAP_PROTON_DELAY_FREE=1 %command%

MGSHDFix will get the game to fit nicely for 2 and 3 on the screen

[haughty iron]

Oh right

MGSHDFix has 16:10 resolutions

[fringe shore]

The full command line needed is:
WINEDLLOVERRIDES="xaudio2_9=n;d3d11=n,b" PROTON_HEAP_DELAY_FREE=1 %command%

That way it loads the xaudio DLL and mgshdfix

[pure radish]

what does PROTON_HEAP_DELAY_FREE solve

[kindred chasm]

You dont need the override anymore and I never needed the second override to load MGSHDFix in either games

[fringe shore]

Is that something fixed in 3.5? That’s new to me

[kindred chasm]

Crashes from video playback. Not cutscenes, actual ingame video like marine speech or codec videos

[fringe shore]

I always needed the override

[kindred chasm]

Nah thats a proton experimental update

November 7th

[fringe shore]

Ahh, interesting

So it loads DLLs like windows now?

[kindred chasm]

I guess? I'm just saying I don't need overrides anymore since the update

[pure radish]

i assume they've just configured the wineprefix for xaudio2_9

surely you still need the d3d11 override for mgshdfix

[kindred chasm]

I dont

[pure radish]

wow

[fringe shore]

I’ll test later myself and let you know

[kindred chasm]

I'm bloody lazy I'd know if I have to use that or not

[fringe shore]

Not that I don’t believe you it’s just I had a steam deck for 1.5 years and it just boggles my mind lmao

[kindred chasm]

Afaik just having the override for audio and not having it just solves the game crashing on cutscenes

[fringe shore]

Since GE proton pulls from experimental I assume it’s fixed in that as well

[kindred chasm]

But i didn't feel like pissing with it. I just wanted MGS to work

Some dude on steam says ge fixed audio, but it feels the same as experimental

[fringe shore]

Yea when I first got it at launch there was no audio in the opening FMV

might be something in the works for official proton support

[kindred chasm]

Been playing on deck since day 2 when fix was uncovered

[fringe shore]

Same, I switch back and forth with my gaming rig but mostly on the deck

Experimental changelog has MGS3 fixes in it. Official support definitely in the works

“Still some missing audio” it says but they fixed some of it

[kindred chasm]

There are new ones?

Because it did play audio before the fix. It just crashes at cutscenes so you couldn't start the game

[fringe shore]

Last update was 11/14 I think it said

Also confirmed, you are correct about the overrides. Even deleted my entire prefix folder

Loaded up with a brand new prefix without overrides

Even works with stable proton 8.0.4

I didn’t see anything in the changelogs concerning dll overrides; odd

[kindred chasm]

Maybe valve made changes to mgs to accept .dlls

[fringe shore]

That’s what I’m thinking. Going to try persona 4 which I have modded to see if it does the same

[fringe shore]

Doesn’t work with persona 4, so I’m assuming they may have the DLL overrides already in the winecfg

For safety I’m just going to keep adding them as usual

[keen wharf]

No VI filter or dithering in the port though. So no way to play low latency interpolated 60fps Mario 64 with accurate N64 visuals...

JK, VI filter is trash

[kindred chasm]

That's fine. That just means less work for people wanting to play on deck down the line is all

[fringe shore]

For sure, not complaining haha. I think it would be great for them to load Native dlls by default. I’m assuming there’s a reason it’s disabled for most

[past sonnet]

Main issue though is the memory leaks, has anyone worked out an alternative to the proton heap delay?

This only happens with 2

[fringe shore]

Not that I’ve seen. Proton patches seem to be in the works though for 2 and 3

[past sonnet]

Yea the memory leaks are the one thing stopping me from finishing mgs2

[kindred chasm]

Is it the area after vamp?

If it is after vamp, I have some recommendations. Set TDP limit to 4 or 5, it forces the game to not hog the CPU giving it better performance, and just speedrun through that section of the game.

It really sucked but I managed to get Johnny on the Spot in one sitting

[past sonnet]

Yep

[past sonnet]

its gonna be a little more difficult to do that since im on a linux desktop, not steam deck

[kindred chasm]

In that case, see if there's a way to limit its CPU usage. It uses way more than necessary. Or, just remove the command, I don't think that section of the game has videos

[past sonnet]

Is it just the codecs with videos?

[kindred chasm]

No, it's all videos. Which would include tanker Holds and I'm assuming Arsenal Gear

[past sonnet]

wait what videos show during arsenal gear

[kindred chasm]

In the radar video of a lady plays

[past sonnet]

oh that

[kindred chasm]

That gets jumbled up like the videos in the Holds so I'm assuming it's going to do the same thing

[past sonnet]

Hopefully someone figures out a fix for that soon

[kindred chasm]

Same. Maybe valve themselves with proton

[pure radish]

cool, decompression of lz4a works

wasn't actually that difficult in the end

[pure radish]

can apply all the patches now

i guess i need to reconstruct an iso with it

there's a bunch of patches that change "Memory Card" to "Storage"

why'd they even bother

[kindred chasm]

Can't have people thinking they can fit a psx memory card on a nintendo switch

I think that's actually against their guidelines

[pure radish]

lol.

[kindred chasm]

I'm serious. That's why Colonel is missing voice lines on Switch apparently. They can't reference stuff that doesn't exist on the hardware, like buttons

[cerulean bough]

Holy fuck Nintendo

LOL

[kindred chasm]

https://youtu.be/vdl9bBhC9Kg?si=NsPZ96y4FaKA-94f 6:13

Set the game to display pro controller I'm going to see if audio still plays. The original game does play audio for select button

No it's exclusively on the switch version. NX buttons it still exists. The patch for that may very well be in there somewhere. Is it replacing the audio or just deleting it?

[haughty iron]

This is probably impossible but is there any way to remaster the IRL footage in MGS1 and upscale it and/or make it run at 30 FPS instead of 15?

[spare heron]

Maybe interpolate it with AI?

Like they do to other games

[haughty iron]

Yeah that's what I had in mind but idk if it's possible to do on an emulated ROM

[soft falcon]

It fits the game better to have it be so crunchy looking tho

[haughty iron]

Well, the issue is that it was made for 240p and it doesn't look good on modern displays

It'd be nice to see how it looks like upscaled at least

[pure radish]

they have a system for muting the voice channels on NX

it exists in the PC version too, but it's only enabled for NX

[meager yacht]

In MGS2 and 3 they muted button prompts for NX too.
But why did they do it in the first place? 🤔

[pure radish]

Nintendo Lotcheck rules

[pure radish]

explained here

can't just stick anything you like on these consoles, there are rules

[red cradle]

which is suck that they didn't choose to edit out the audio that only mention just the button names part, but the whole dialogue

[kindred chasm]

@cerulean bough i know but it's still kinda dumb.

[kindred chasm]

Wait 2 and 3 as well? But they don't call the buttons by name but by their function?

[meager yacht]

Not always

[haughty iron]

@young moth @late slate

This

[pure radish]

lol

was building the mgs decomp and my projects drive ran out of space

[sick osprey]

the cool thing about storage is that its always gettin cheaper innit

the even cooler thing about storage is that HDDs still got their place for storin things that dont need to be accessed quickly, like anime and stuff

[pure radish]

yeah this is my slowest disk

are the rom images mislabeled?

[haughty iron]

Mislabeled how

[pure radish]

mgs_integral_disc1-20230407.lz4a

then

mgs_integral_disc3-20230407.lz4a

no disc2

oh integral actually has 3 discs

it seems "normal" for disc2 to be missing an lz4a

so I assume disc3 in that case is special missions or summit

??

[soft falcon]

Yeah disc 3 is vr missions

[pure radish]

seems like we can assume disc2 reuses the disc1 lz4a

and disc3 is entirely separate, makes sense

[pure radish]

the lz4a thing probably simplifies patches for them massively

that might be why it exists

they've compressed it because it's an entire ram dump

[pure radish]

is there even a bios image?

[woeful flare]

now that i'm not too sure about

[pure radish]

they've definitely skipped the bootloader via having this ram image

but there are functions in the bios you can call

i know there's some HLE going on but

the psx bios is all kinds of messed up lol

functions don't work as intended at all

i assume this crap at the end of the ram image is the stack leftover from the bios

or is it the crap at the start? who knows

oh - psxspx literally says first 64k reserved for bios

https://problemkaputt.de/psx-spx.htm#biosmemorymap

[haughty iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkO70xYcxs

Very weird take

[pure radish]

i saw this

bang on the money tbh

you don't like it because u feel seen

[haughty iron]

Asking for raising the internal res is remastering now?

[pure radish]

yes

[haughty iron]

CPU OC is remastering?

[pure radish]

literally exactly what remastering is

[haughty iron]

No

Nope

[pure radish]

yes

by the definition of the term, yeah

[haughty iron]

What remastering is, is touching up assets

Raising the resolution in a PC game is not remastering.

It's a basic feature.

[pure radish]

its not a pc game

[haughty iron]

It is

MGS2 and 3 also are and they are native

This is absolutely ridiculous

Raising the resolution on a native PC port does NOT fall within the realm of remastering

Not by a longshot

It is a BASIC feature that all PC games have

[pure radish]

i mean

its simply not a native PC port

i don't know what to tell ya

that's why you wanted a decomp, remember

[haughty iron]

Of course, it would be better, but when DuckStation does all that for free and they're asking me for $20, yeah

Ouch

[pure radish]

well, you've always been able to pirate the game

[haughty iron]

I bought this game 5 times, this isn't about piracy. And also, forcing a bilinear filter and censoring the game is also not correct game preservation, if we want to be 100% objective here

The game doesn't even look like its PS1 counterpart 100%

[pure radish]

agree on the bilinear filter

censoring is a fact of life in this case most probably

like when tracks get removed from gta radio coz they can't secure the licenses

[haughty iron]

But it's not game preservation in this case

[pure radish]

as much as you stomp your feet

[haughty iron]

So they didn't technically do that either

[pure radish]

its an improvement of it not being available on most platforms

a couple of pictures and some underpants

jesus wept

[haughty iron]

Sure, it's no big deal but it's incorrect game preservation

[pure radish]

that's very black and white

[haughty iron]

He claims that they promised a PS1 game, right? True, but that's not how the PS1 game looked, not 100% at least

[pure radish]

i think he even calls out the filtering in the video man

[haughty iron]

Also the audio wasn't fixed by Konami, was it? It was fixed by you

Yes he does

I am aware

He sits somewhere in the middle

To me it's the pricing that is questionable here, mostly

And if you claim you're fully preserving a game, at least fully mean it

[pure radish]

huh, they've seemingly blanked out a part of the ram image too

doesnt even seem to be a decompression issue because its the same in the dump i captured from the game

[pure radish]

lol

the psyq libraries

are nowhere to be seen

[sick osprey]

The amount of "why did they port this old game when twin snakes exists" is fucking mind boggling.

[fringe shore]

That first comment about steam forums is 100% true

I had to stop going there for my mental health

[sick osprey]

Yeah steam forums is usually dumber than 2011 YouTube comments.

[haughty iron]

I am not against remasters or ports, but this version is not a 1:1 port

That is what I don't understand

If you wanna be a purist then be a purist and play the PS1 game

This is not it

[fringe shore]

I like the OG and TS for different reasons. But the OG is always my go to. I think both can exist for people to choose their preferred version

[haughty iron]

Just the bilinear filter, lack of analog movement, and censorship, make the MC a non 1:1 port

[fringe shore]

It’s takes talent to release a 25 year old game in worse shape than it launched

[haughty iron]

If the claim is that Konami wanted to port this game 1:1 then this is not true

If you want a 1:1 experience, play the PS1 port

[pure radish]

how do you port it 1:1

does it come with a free crt?

[haughty iron]

How? Without changing anything in the code

Don't censor it

Don't filter it

Don't change anything about the movement

[pure radish]

the filters arent even part of the game code

[haughty iron]

That's not 1:1

Filters alter the image

I said "don't filter it"

That's not 1:1

[pure radish]

neither are lcds

[haughty iron]

If you want 1:1 then don't change anything

[sick osprey]

I do wish they would have ported it instead of emulating it.
Just for the sake of having better functioning dsp, less stutters, etc.

But as far as featureset goes I think it's fine (minus the analog incident).

[fringe shore]

Konami taking the cheapest method is unfortunately not news lol

[haughty iron]

The output machine should not concern a 1:1 port. Literally do not change anything and let it look whatever it looks like on modern displays without any changes

They did not do that

They altered a few things to make it look slightly better in a VERY cheap way, and called it a day

That's that they did

[sick osprey]

My crackpot theory is that they're putting like 60% of their effort into working on MGS4 and releasing the collection in volumes is their way of buying some time.

[haughty iron]

And that's what we're calling them out for

[fringe shore]

I would happily pay for mgs4 to get its own standalone release as the porting effort on that is justified. But I’m not telling Konami that 🤫

[sick osprey]

Funny, isn't it?
The game people most want in the collection is often not regarded as anyone's favorite.

[fringe shore]

Mgs4 is a great 20 hour movie with a game attached lol. I do love it though

Ok 20 is a major exaggeration but you get the point lol

[sick osprey]

I'm getting someone to play through the series and I really want them to get to the MGSV trilogy but they have to play 4 first lol.

[fringe shore]

RPCS3 is a good option for someone with a good rig. But it seems like mgs4 might be a real thing that’s happening in vol2 so I would just personally wait

[pure radish]

omg im absolutely horrified at how this emulator works

[fringe shore]

I could tell you that just by playing it for 10 mins 😂

I can’t imagine what you’ve seen

[sick osprey]

Yeah this might be what I suggest. She'll probably take a break after 3.

It's unfortunate though.
MGSPW runs near flawlessly on RPCS3.
MGSV GZ & TPP are native on PC.

[fringe shore]

Portable ops on PPSSPP to fill the void for a bit

[pure radish]

--> #general-chat

[sick osprey]

oops, I've been switching back and forth sorry.

[fringe shore]

Lol i know im sorry i keep doing that 😅

I’ll be better about staying on topic 🤐

[pure radish]

they've like

overwritten all of the libraries in the ram image with 0xff

and

whenever the game tries to call into them

the emulator catches the pc address and handles the function natively

so the exe knows where every function should be

for each version of mgs

so you can't actually reconstruct an iso

because there just isnt one

however

all the bits that are intact are identical

this is pre-patching, ofc

[soft falcon]

Weird. That's one way to do it

[pure radish]

it also seems to overwrite the end of ram

(the patches)

maybe they extended ram

[cerulean bough]

I mean technically they did touch up assets

Johnny has new pants LOL

Granted arguing the definition of Remaster/Remake/Reimagining/Reshittening

Is the most pointless thing in 20023

Since every company will use those terms in a completely different context for the sake of marketing

Theres not really a line what defines those any longer, since those old lines have been crossed many times already

[pure radish]

most of the ram patches are uninteresting except one

most of them are just replacing entries in the item tables or replacing strings

but there's one that gets essentially loaded to an invalid address

which is their secret sauce

not even looking at the cd patches yet lol

yeah, that patch is just their codecave

god damn

it's an impressive amount of effort for them to put these patches together tbh

[hardy elm]

There are a lot of worth it improvements for mgsv

Look at pc gaming wiki

https://youtu.be/ByyoMHhg_ng?si=XlFr0pRn7-P87SSb

Use the original FOV for the first playthrough tho

https://youtu.be/HyC0R-36pVQ?si=M3xmD7haAeOe5r17

[pure radish]

alright hopefully i can diff the cd images now

oh shit that was more effective than i expected

etc etc

[pure radish]

what did they change in rex's room

this set must be for buttons coz i can't imagine them changing a bunch of rooms

[kindred chasm]

Rex boss room or the entire hanger?

[pure radish]

the hangar pre-boss

lots of changes to the compiled scripts

[kindred chasm]

Afaik nothing's changed. There's like 4 hanger rooms

The sewer, leg, top of Rex, then the bulletproof control room to put it simply

[pure radish]

i assume .bin are actual mips code overlay and .gcx are compiled .gcl

we've got some texture file changes in a bunch of stages with the same file name which makes me think buttons

some models changed

and then a bunch of .bin and .gcx

i need to work out what im going to do with any of this

can try and make this into a usable tool

"CD NOT SPIN!!"