some punishment for having more hands | Balatro | Page 1

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 12:48 AM

#

right now, having/using things immediately has a downside
jokers - having less slots, being somewhat chained to the build in certain scenarios, costing money
tarots - changes your deck for the better or for the worse, also costs money
planets - can poison the fool
spectrals - always have some kind of downside in most places
some vouchers - have some downside like diluting your shop
my point is, some vouchers like grabber or wasteful seem like extremely obvious takes even for their relatively high (compared to most cards) cost of 10$
grabber pays for itself in 10 rounds
overstock saves rerolls so you can spend all the money somewhere else
i just want more things to discourage winmore

scarlet crypt Dec 13, 2025, 1:16 AM

#

Grabber is not winmore if you’re looking at it as a money generator since you gotta remember that ante 8 runs are only 24 rounds, so it takes literally half the game to pay itself off by that metric. And I’m not even sure what the post is trying to communicate

rare lance Dec 13, 2025, 1:16 AM

#

I think Vouchers are okay as "always good to take this if you can"

#

The balance is that they're expensive

scarlet crypt Dec 13, 2025, 1:17 AM

#

Plus grabber isn’t even that strong of a voucher, it’s not even top 3 imo

vagrant axle Dec 13, 2025, 1:23 AM

#

Grabber is winless imo

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 1:48 AM

#

well also it gives you more freedom

#

thats why i mentioned wasteful

#

wasteful isn't a money generator

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 2:07 AM

#

winmore doesnt mean you have more resources

#

winmore means those resources come in useful only when youre already winning

#

also grabber is probably the best overall voucher but thats fine

#

grabbers extra can be used as extra score

#

plus vouchers are expensive yeah

#

rebate and immolate need to be nerfed way more than grabber

scarlet crypt Dec 13, 2025, 2:10 AM

#

Shoutout to how money tree isn’t even mentioned as a winmore voucher

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 2:18 AM

#

seed money and blank are the two winmore voucher sets id say

tacit silo Dec 13, 2025, 2:23 AM

#

magic trick is winmore fr because if you pick it up you clearly don't need anything from the shop

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 2:24 AM

#

wispy charm also grabber is probably the best overall voucher but thats fine

to expend on this

#

you not getting vouchers offered against each other

#

so the difference between a hand and discard doesnt make wasteful redundant for example

lethal vine Dec 13, 2025, 2:42 AM

#

scarlet crypt Plus grabber isn’t even that strong of a voucher, it’s not even top 3 imo

are we deadass

rare lance Dec 13, 2025, 2:50 AM

#

hot take: some winmore is okay

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 2:56 AM

#

i'm just saying there should be contemplation on whether to buy the things instead of "how fast can i get my econ stable so i can buy this"

lethal vine Dec 13, 2025, 3:05 AM

#

isn't that just how the game is anyways

#

like your first priority is always good economy

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 3:10 AM

#

yeah but the econ isn't the point here

#

the point is there should be a decision

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 3:10 AM

#

grabber wasteful and paintbrush dont need a nerf

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 3:11 AM

#

whether to buy it or not

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 3:11 AM

#

some choices being obvious is fine

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 3:11 AM

#

i'm not saying the vouchers themselves need a nerf

#

just there needs to be

#

idk

#

some ordering shenanigans maybe

#

like tarots

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 3:12 AM

#

vouchers in general are far less "do i take the risk" than other pickups

#

if a voucher is good and you can afford to take it you take it

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 3:12 AM

#

but still there should be

#

at least something

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 3:12 AM

#

nah its fine

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 3:12 AM

#

like

#

ok hold up

#

lets go back to the tarot example

#

with the ordering

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 3:13 AM

#

one upgrade of a game being easy to choose when to take when everything else has nuance is like fine

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 3:13 AM

#

if you had two good cards you would want to use them both

#

but the ordering changes things

#

even if using both would be a net positive

scarlet crypt Dec 13, 2025, 3:18 AM

#

lethal vine are we deadass

Overstock, reroll, paintbrush is my top 3, grabber is prob top 5 though

lethal vine Dec 13, 2025, 3:18 AM

#

overstock is a contender but an extra hand is extremely versitile

#

due to being more scoring, econ and draws

#

oh and also scaling because half of all gold stake runs are some variation of +mult and pairs

scarlet crypt Dec 13, 2025, 3:19 AM

#

It’s very strong but it isn’t the strongest voucher to the point of complaining about it

#

Like this post feels like it was made specifically about grabber being too winmore and that’s just wrong imo

lethal vine Dec 13, 2025, 3:20 AM

#

i agree

#

but it's probably still the strongest

#

10$ is a big investment either way

wispy charm Dec 13, 2025, 3:21 AM

#

the only winmore vouchers are seed money voucher tiers and blank voucher tiers

#

thats generally my take

#

and observatory? that one just does not show up enough for me to judge it for ante 8 runs

scarlet crypt Dec 13, 2025, 3:22 AM

#

Yea I agree, the original post makes no sense imo and it feels like it brings up a dozen unrelated things

lethal vine Dec 13, 2025, 3:22 AM

#

observatory ends up doing about as much as antimatter usually does

short crypt Dec 13, 2025, 3:59 AM

#

also i love how he said "tarots - change your deck for better or worse" as if the arcana pack is forcing you to use hung man on your gold cards

raw merlin Dec 13, 2025, 4:07 AM

#

ahh oh no not my polychrome red seal steel kings of hearts why would jimbo do this

hardy cove Dec 13, 2025, 5:10 AM

#

lethal vine are we deadass

no i agree

#

mm actually i think it's my 3rd best

sullen patio Dec 13, 2025, 8:53 AM

#

Tbh I don’t get how vouchers are winmore; you pick them up as investments for the future in most cases imo

lean blade Dec 13, 2025, 11:36 AM

#

scarlet crypt Plus grabber isn’t even that strong of a voucher, it’s not even top 3 imo

what lmfao

#

money tree is 100% winmore honestly

#

same with magic trick because you only take it with hologram rn

late orbit Dec 13, 2025, 1:13 PM

#

real question why is the title of the suggestion about hands if the actual suggestion is for vouchers

#

also vouchers are balanced by them showing up randomly with the player having little control in what shows up

kind hearth Dec 13, 2025, 6:15 PM

#

vouchers are balanced by magic trick and hone being in the pool 🗣️

short crypt Dec 13, 2025, 6:33 PM

#

the humble planet merchant:

#some punishment for having more hands