old starspace thread

[oblique rover]

@viscid elbow is the coder
@plush eagle is an idea maker
@heady dirge did some art too
and I made most of the art!

please just jump to present already these messages are SO outdated 😭

[amber igloo]

what type of mods is this more vanila or more cryptid?

[heady dirge]

im the fallback being
im just here to be cool until someone needs help then i lock the fuck in

[shy steeple]

holy shit is that meta knnight

add a marx joker and my life is yours

hell yeah!

i mean the kirby marx obv

if you make a karl marx joker that's ok too

lolol

[deep sundial]

whats toomanyrarities

[tough parrot]

am I not cool :(

[heady dirge]

marx mention

[oblique rover]

https://github.com/MetaNite64/Starspace
they said i could

they added the quips... based :3

[viscid elbow]

(requires latest steamodded and uhhhh talisman. because funny numbers)
(wait fuck i should actually update the dependencies)

i've been doing neutron star for now actually, but if white dwarf is supposed to be the default i can pivot to that

but tomorrow. i'm actually gonna sleep now, after saying so at least 3 times

[oblique rover]

its just that white dwarf would probably be a lot easier to code

methinks

[tough parrot]

white dwarf is supposed to be non-Talisman compatible

so it should probably be selected by default regardless

[oblique rover]

yah

[tough parrot]

meows

[hushed horizon]

damn, another balatro pre-released mod added to my list

[tough parrot]

we do have a smol alpha release :3

[tough parrot]

^

[viscid elbow]

(you can download directly from the main branch if you'd like to experience a sampling of what the mod has to offer, it's in a fairly stable state at the moment)

[tough parrot]

(Meta would know best, she's our main dev lol)

[oblique rover]

And only dev :3

[thick kiln]

what the hell, sure

[plush eagle]

^1.05

[oblique rover]

Maybe 1.03 to reflect the originals

Though there are 3 gamesets so
..... :3

[plush eagle]

^1.03, ^1.05, ^1.1

[thick kiln]

seems like a positive thing

[tough parrot]

meowspace

[oblique rover]

mrreow!

[plush eagle]

mlep

[tough parrot]

mlem

yeah guys this mod was actually just coded by a bunch of cats

[viscid elbow]

mraow

[tough parrot]

mrorworworowroow

[tough parrot]

also we do have a Joker idea that sorta gets around the whole "White Dwarf can't have exponentiation because we want it to not require Talisman", where the amount of xMult it gives is the current Mult, being effectively equivalent to ^2 Mult

so it's just psuedoexponentiation

[tough parrot]

atp ppl will see any thing above a x3 and scream "numberslop!!!!!!"

[oblique rover]

real

Chocolate++ should be a term

[tough parrot]

real

[oblique rover]

Numberslop sounds too much like a derogatory term and it needs a fuckin makeover

[tough parrot]

expomod

expo from exponent

[viscid elbow]

exposlop mentioned :3

[thick kiln]

starspace tommorow

[tough parrot]

meowmeow tomeowmeow

[plush eagle]

For anyone who cares there is an update

https://github.com/MetaNite64/Starspace

[thick kiln]

holy shit! 3 new jokers and a spectral

[ripe eagle]

😭

[oblique rover]

People really care about me for some reason

Pretty surprising

[toxic obsidian]

what do the existing jokers do

[viscid elbow]

Astro: gains x0.1 Chips when a Spade is scored, but only if the played hand does not contain a Heart.
Scrap: same as Astro but swap Spades and Hearts, and he gains xMult instead
Crystal: retrigger the Joker to the right of Crystal 3 times
Shard: retrigger the leftmost Joker 3 times
Sage: gains x6.66 Mult every time money is earned during scoring
Rocket Pop: gains 1 retrigger on itself and loses 10% of its current xMult at the end of the round. starts at x2 Mult
Meta Knight: Create a random Steel card when blind is selected, enhance scored Steel cards to Gold
Glorp: currently just effectively gives x2 Mult but as +Mult. however, i'm gonna rework him soon

[toxic obsidian]

interesting

[toxic obsidian]

i Might try this when it gets more content

[thick kiln]

why is it called a chocolate++ mod if theres no chocolate in the mod 🤔

i think we need some chocolatier action

[plush eagle]

its not vanilla so its chocolate

however we 🍫

[viscid elbow]

there will be Soon™

[thick kiln]

oh hell yeah

[oblique rover]

Grrrr

[oblique rover]

"😭" Aikoyori, 2025

[ripe eagle]

😭

[thick kiln]

huge

[oblique rover]

Maybe Judgement?? Could give a peach Seal that does something to your jokers??? Nah I'll probably just make a Tree spectral

[iron orchid]

googol (number) joker when

[iron orchid]

@plush eagle ate the chocolate

[toxic obsidian]

can i be added to starspace tomorrow
-# /nf obviously

[oblique rover]

Maybe :3

[deep sundial]

add me to starspace

i buff two pair

[oblique rover]

ghhhhhhhhhhh i dont wanna add like 50 billion people to a mod

maybe like winks and nods at people but like
theres already like

15 jokers that are just a character staring at you

[deep sundial]

add a nondescript dragon that buffs two pairs

[oblique rover]

..................................okay

[deep sundial]

chess battle advanced

[oblique rover]

"If played hand is a Two Pair, level up two random hands"

or maybe like one on white dwarf
two on neutron

[toxic obsidian]

also i do like how the mod has different modes depending on what else you have installed

[oblique rover]

yeah
theres a no talisman mode that somehow still has one exponent in it

ill give you a wild guess to what in the doc still has exponents in White Dwarf

[toxic obsidian]

^2 chips

[oblique rover]

close, it's x[Current Mult] Mult on Quadratical

[toxic obsidian]

oh ok

anyways uhhh effect idea give me a minute

ok ive got it (for white dwarf at least assuming thats the no talisman mode)
triples all listed probabilities
when a listed probability succeeds, gain double its denominator in XChips

[oblique rover]

maybe it could be +chips for white dwarf and xchips for neutron star depending on the rarity of the joker

[toxic obsidian]

hmmm maybe legendary bc i have no idea how/if galactics are balanced lol

[oblique rover]

theyre basically just exotics but weird looking
also we dont have that many legendaries at the moment except for galacta and aikoyori so ill let it go through

how do you want this joker to look

[toxic obsidian]

just collei from genshin for now, until i actually draw my oc in an indeterminate amount of time im using her as a pfp

i should probably come up with a description but im lazy rn

[oblique rover]

alright i got this right now

ill draw the design later cuz im lazyyyy

[toxic obsidian]

Ok

i should probably at least write what me oc looks like from upper half

[oblique rover]

star spcae

[tough parrot]

meowmeow

[thick kiln]

so true

[oblique rover]

if any of y'all are getting self inserts you're free to draw them

just to lyk, since im already feeling tired from drawing all these spectrals

[thick kiln]

make sure to take breaks
your wellbeing is more important

[toxic obsidian]

star walker

i can try to draw a card later maybe

[toxic obsidian]

be warned though it may suck ass

[brisk zenith]

mus_star.ogg

[oblique rover]

I was thinking about how to draw this Joker, do you think it could be like, a drawing on a page? Maybe like a dragon of ink and lines?
Though I don't know which reference to pull that from, and where to start

Sorry for replying to an older message, I'm just kinda hung up on this

[deep sundial]

oo that could work

[oblique rover]

I just don't know where to pull from to make the dragon look like the lineart one in your PFP.

[oblique rover]

Alright! Thanks!

[deep sundial]

want me to give a full image?

or more refs?

[oblique rover]

Remember; y'all can always give me plenty baselines

Yes

[oblique rover]

Is this good?

[deep sundial]

yeah!!

rarrr

[plush eagle]

Jimmy

[ivory inlet]

whomst

[oblique rover]

whomst....

[oblique rover]

it was a joke about adding new score variables
i said "new score variable called Jimmy"
and someone said they read that like tenna

[viscid elbow]

the pool of contexts is kinda small (initial_scoring_step, final_scoring_step, joker_main, individual (only on played cards), and other_joker), but i still like it

oh also

[viscid elbow]

ok the seals are actually accessible now lol

[unique rose]

I wanna keep tabs on this mod

[oblique rover]

TECHNICALLY they already were

standard packs :3

[viscid elbow]

oh true lmao

[viscid elbow]

stickers if they weren't mean to you:

[toxic obsidian]

awesome

[ivory inlet]

evil stickers be like: beneficial to your run

[plush eagle]

Ping them while I think of an idea

+12 chips if you use a tarot, planet, or spectral card.

[thick kiln]

what is this, some sort of 𝖘𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖕𝖆𝖈𝖊?

[ivory inlet]

red cube 4

[unique rose]

Thundergaze

Wait, are we just saying random bullshit or

[brisk zenith]

m

[ivory inlet]

its like red ball 4 but cube

red ball the flash game
someone here knows it right

[thick kiln]

Probably? idk

anyways, will we have CardPronouns compatibility?

[viscid elbow]

it's something i'd like to do :3 i'll pester all the owners of the OCs for proper pronouns at some point

[plush eagle]

Crystal:
She/her

Shard:
She/it

[toxic obsidian]

mine would probably just be my neos

[plush eagle]

Neos?

[viscid elbow]

oh thank you, i would've assumed it was the same as your pronouns anyway but i had been meaning to ask

[viscid elbow]

neopronouns

[plush eagle]

Ah

[toxic obsidian]

i use star/stars online

[deep sundial]

it/its

[deep sundial]

wait when did this come out did somebody actually make a pronoun api,,,,

[viscid elbow]

yes https://github.com/real-niacat/CardPronouns

[viscid elbow]

for the dragon, right?

[deep sundial]

yeah

[viscid elbow]

great thank you
in the doc, the joker is currently named "Paper Dragon", but did you want it to be named after you/a specific name?

[deep sundial]

im fine with it being called that!

[deep sundial]

incredible,,,,,

[thick kiln]

There's a doc?

[thick kiln]

interesting

wait a minute there's a starspace discord server

without me?

[ruby sorrel]

server?

inv?

[toxic obsidian]

i should get this bc funny

[plush eagle]

STARSPACE UPDATE EVERYONE STARSPACE UPDATE

[ivory inlet]

dayum

whats in it

[viscid elbow]

just the generous patch

I would like to make it clear that I'm treating the main branch as a dev branch for now

[ivory inlet]

you probably should do that tbh

[viscid elbow]

yea i'll switch to a beta branch once i and everyone else involved believes that it's fit for a "full release"

[viscid elbow]

amethyst stake and the gigantic sticker are live now too

[plush eagle]

Yes that is 🔏

[orchid rain]

astronaut: we were travelling through the starspace just to land on some shitty ass planet?

astronaut without the naut: say that again?

[plush eagle]

Starspace update :3

[real gulch]

I love that game :3

[viscid elbow]

https://github.com/MetaNite64/Starspace/commit/e3d737edf3c4846111e7cc4fc709b1f4df2e3a9b yippee

[fading vessel]

how download

theres no releases

[viscid elbow]

.

[ivory inlet]

you need to go to the main page first to find releases

oh or that

[fading vessel]

hey @plush eagle hey

why would you tell me to get the mod

if i cant?!?!?!

[plush eagle]

because

[viscid elbow]

starspace has no releases yet because it doesn't feel feature complete to me yet. still need to add more patches and jokers at minimum
if you want the beta build anyway, you can click on the green code button and download the source code zip. there's no need to compile anything the source code is exactly how a mod would be released

there shouldn't be any crashes but there's only like 8 jokers

[fading vessel]

ok i got the mod

:3

[ruby sorrel]

i also hav a mod :D

[toxic obsidian]

yeah im exploding today

forgot

[warm path]

yay

[ivory inlet]

jimbo with gun???

[fair crest]

Hey I love Astro too

Did you took this from Ortalab?

[unique rose]

What the fuck is that dice joker supposed to do

[viscid elbow]

inactivity

[ivory inlet]

because discord is a very cool platform

[viscid elbow]

both of my mod forums are hidden at the moment lmao

[deep sundial]

what should the patch version of these be

(from bunco’s extra stakes)

[viscid elbow]

Scattering -> Diffuse: applies a random edition (Foil, Holographic, Polychrome) to adjacent Joker(s) when removed
Hindered -> Invested: can be sold once per round to earn the Joker's sell value and still keep the Joker (Currently active)
Reactive -> Noble: Gives a copy of the current Blind's skip tag if Blind is defeated in one hand

[deep sundial]

(for context, when removed just means when the joker is destroyed or sold)

[viscid elbow]

ye i assumed as much

(noble is named after the noble gases, famously unreactive elements)

[viscid elbow]

you want them in the doc?

i'll put them on the crossmod page

[ruby sorrel]

would invested trigger on sell effects

[viscid elbow]

yea probably

[ruby sorrel]

aw man how are you in so many mods...

[unique rose]

FirstTry is typing…

[ruby sorrel]

what

i mmmean how do i get included in stiuff too

[unique rose]

-# did you know that Astro is also getting featured into my mod too

[unique rose]

Charm

[ruby sorrel]

?

[ruby sorrel]

can u include me ?

[unique rose]

You need charisma

Astro has thousands of charisma

[ruby sorrel]

please ?

[unique rose]

Idk man

I do whatever the fuck I want with my mod

I just wanna add Astro in the mod

Because I feel like it

[ruby sorrel]

:(

[unique rose]

I never added N' or Somethingcom or Edward’s Robinson or whoever the fuck

It’s just Astro

[ruby sorrel]

pls ?

[unique rose]

Ask me one more time I swear to thunk

[ruby sorrel]

um

[unique rose]

Love u (platonically, duh) and ur stuff Astro

[fair crest]

Then why's the outline black?

[ruby sorrel]

do u like me

[unique rose]

You’re getting really good at this

[ruby sorrel]

am i good at drawing

[unique rose]

Maybe

[tawny arch]

Astro is awesome, and so is his art!

[fair crest]

😃 👍

[viscid elbow]

new updates

• Magolor, Galacta Knight, and Bacon Burger Jokers implemented
• Efficient Patch implemented and accessible (has a 50% chance to replace Gigantic stickers in shop). there may be some weird behavior, that's probably SMODS-side and i'll get around to making an issue/pull request about it eventually
• Talisman is no longer required (there will always be a non-Talisman-balanced mode, and that's the mode i'm developing first anyway so idk why it was required in the first place)
• it's now extremely easy to make your own crossmod Patches from the code side! all you have to do is add patch_sticker = "modprefix_stickerkey" to the patch definition and Starspace will handle the whole 50% chance for the patch to replace the given sticker in the shop. this will be demonstrated with Patches for Bunco stickers... eventually. this is a one-woman coding operation lmao

[deep sundial]

hey do you take blind suggestions ive got a couple blind ideas brewing

Fuchsia Falcon (Showdown): [deck’s most common suit]s and [deck’s most common rank]s are Debuffed.

The Canvas (Boss): Played [Deck’s most common suit]s become [Deck’s least common suit]s.
The Easel (Boss): Played [Deck’s most common rank]s become [Deck’s least common rank]s.

(suit from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambraser_Hofjagdspiel )

[viscid elbow]

current behavior:
+2 chips, +2 mult, x2 chips, x2 mult, +$2, and level up the played hand by 2 during joker scoring
passively, it also gives +2 choices from booster pack, +2 booster pack size, +2 shop slots, +2 slots used, +2 joker slots available, +2 to blind requirements, and +2 win ante
are there any other numbers that should be +2'd with this joker

[deep sundial]

+2 blind score requirement

just because itd look funny to have a 2 at the end of it

oh wait you already said that

[viscid elbow]

something from milky's mod i don't remember

anyway uhhhhhh yea i think that's a bit much, it's supposed to just be +2 to every number i can access

oh yea i forgot to mention but +2 does also do +2 numerator and +2 denominator already

[earnest fog]

I really like the art in the mod

[deep sundial]

+2 to every card played
(uses strength twice)

[ruby sorrel]

and 2 bonus chips

[earnest fog]

+2 2s in your hand maybe

or +2 hand size would be better

[unique rose]

+2 random cards spawned, could be a joker, could be a consumable, could be a playing card.

[viscid elbow]

.

[unique rose]

Oh

Uhh… hmm

Hands and discards

Oh wait

Fuck I’m slow

Astro do you believe your joker in my mod is broken simply because you increase XChips gain when ante changes (this includes glyph vouchers)

Right, the average joker in my mod must always beat a simple photochad in some way

[deep sundial]

thoughts on this one

rank is also a number you can +2 :)

[unique rose]

Rarity

[deep sundial]

what if there was an astrolabe that was also astro

astro labe

[warm path]

what the hell, 2

[plush eagle]

Starspace update!

[ruby sorrel]

geezus i wish i had that many

[warm path]

a very popular cat

[ruby sorrel]

i wanna be popular like that

[warm path]

🏳️‍🌈

[ruby sorrel]

what

[ruby sorrel]

you cant just add more dimensions

[viscid elbow]

I don't wanna deal with the can of worms that that opens

[ruby sorrel]

lol

you could copy fractal fingers code since its also +2 sel limit

[viscid elbow]

it feels like if we have a way to increase selection limit then we need to have a way to account for larger poker hands like six of a kind or whatever

because if we don't then it's kinda just Discard More

[ruby sorrel]

make it only add selection limit if cryptid is installed maube

[deep sundial]

the joker already does 5 bajillion other things its fine if its just discard more

[earnest fog]

my bad

[warm path]

can i download this mod or it’s still in development

[warm path]

where

[wanton parrot]

@gritty frost pin time

[warm path]

old man hammer

you can’t fool my blindness

[sour axle]

IM OLD

[wanton parrot]

🐢

[oblique rover]

Starspace - A Self-Indulgent Chocolate+ Mod

[unique rose]

Atonbast

IT’S THE HAMMER, HE’S REAL

[dusty matrix]

May I pet?

oh.

[viscid elbow]

📝 once I implement AMM crossmod, petting obligatory robot cat will insta-lose the run

[unique rose]

I wanna make crossmod ability for starspace, if you get Astro, you get permanent +1 joker slot.

[unique rose]

I apologize for the ambiguity

If you get Astro while you have Astronomicus, you get +1 joker slot

[viscid elbow]

you can do that on your end, i feel like you don't really need to ask permission

[unique rose]

I have to figure out how to make it so that Astronomicus actually does that.

[warm path]

make it the more you pet it the more dollars it will take from you

[dusty matrix]

Also, I'm there now! (for so much as thinking about stealing a joker idea)

[viscid elbow]

ugghghhg i wanna code my self-joker but i still haven't gotten my sona's art yet

so there's no reference for the art

[dusty matrix]

Well, just hand-wing it! Worst case, it comes out terrible, but it's something to work and fine-tune!

[viscid elbow]

well i'm not the artist for the mod

[dusty matrix]

Bird Joker be like:

[dusty matrix]

oh

Oh.

Occlupanid!

[fair crest]

@oblique rover Do you think you can make Joker from other character named Astro?

😅

This

Fair enough

Also, aw

I don't play that game either

[deep sundial]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

holy shit

[deep sundial]

the astro labe,,,

[fair crest]

😅

My apology

[warm path]

chad astro

[viscid elbow]

Brave patch is live

(counterpart to Isolated stickers, it makes the joker resist flipping and debuffs)

[viscid elbow]

another update :3 added the jokers Combo Pizza and Susie

[deep sundial]

[viscid elbow]

wrong

[deep sundial]

add lukewarm potato

[ruby sorrel]

im not coding another potato lol

oh uhh

you mightve just had a bad roll

[plush eagle]

(Update to this if anyone cares, black hole is removed for it being kinda stupid and not worth putting work into)

[jade sluice]

i might check this out soon
the art looks cool

honestly meta suggesting crossmod made me more interested

[plush eagle]

Check out the google doc

There are so many jokers planned

[jade sluice]

forger of hilarity was first

should i make destroying my dark fountain joker with ceremonial dagger spawn the knight

[jade sluice]

well uh

ok

natural negative brainstorm

also rocket pop still gets scaled in context.blueprint

[warm path]

when did i missed blueprint joker drawn by astro

[deep sundial]

is there a brainstorm astro

[jade sluice]

shard

[deep sundial]

astro yuri

shipping you with shard

[brisk zenith]

that's a straight bro

[ruby sorrel]

but is it a stflush

[viscid elbow]

the blueprint joker is crystal, not astro

anyway :3

it's similar to spectrum but i had to put in a bunch of work for edge cases with wild cards (if you only have 4 suits in-game and you play a flash + an extra wild card, the wild card can be part of the flash instead of the lowest rank card if the wild card has a higher rank)

planet card will be coming uhhh soon (i need to get the art in first but i have irl stuff to do)

hm i wonder if there are any mods that add a new suit but don't add a spectrum hand

[warm path]

astro why would you steal ingame voucher

[viscid elbow]

clearance sale and liquidation set the discount % instead of adding to it in vanilla balatro
the Magolor joker in starspace adds to discount %, but the vanilla version of those vouchers wouldn't properly account for that

[plush eagle]

Hi buddy

[deep sundial]

minty's

grab bag

[viscid elbow]

exploding

REAL

[viscid elbow]

alright i'll have to. add some more logic to only pick the top 4 ranks for the flash

later
i'm tired

[viscid elbow]

new update

no new content but it should be fairly clear what's new

[wanton parrot]

am minty, can confirm
(you're "supposed" to play it with spectrum framework but i feel like people don't actually do that. probably because i went out of my way to make it not Necessary™)

[deep sundial]

yeah i feel like people dont use the framework because the other big spectrum hand adding mods (bunco and paperback) dont use the framework and just implement it separately

[viscid elbow]

behavior adjusted, now if you have 5+ suits in played hand but no spectrum available flash will only score the top 4 ranks

[viscid elbow]

flash four is literally just "check if hand contains both a flash and a four of a kind"

that's the cool thing about poker hand parts :3

tbh i could do that
it wouldn't be related to straights because there's no straight flash, but i could make the special name pop up if it's a flash consisting of only face cards

[viscid elbow]

wolftopia planet (for Flash) implemented, plus jokers The Creature and Scrap's Machete

[viscid elbow]

done :3

[viscid elbow]

ok
also implemented Crystal's Goggles, the Flash handtype jokers, and all the handtype jokers that give temporary hand size for the round

[viscid elbow]

one more before dinner, implemented Writh Wrath

fyi I think sage changed its effect when she went through and rebalanced some stuff, if you haven't seen it yet I feel like it loses the intended vibes (if that makes sense)

[jade sluice]

flower pot

[viscid elbow]

lemme know when you tweak it, I'll adjust the behavior after dinner

[viscid elbow]

true,,,

gwuh
no I meant sage (the person) changed writh wrath's effect from what you originally put down

I will uh
look into that
(I have no clue how to fix it or if anything is even broken)

ahh
oh this is the additions tab
yea I'll figure that out I think

[viscid elbow]

fixed

also uploaded the fixed art, magolor no longer bears the shit stain

[viscid elbow]

implemented the Immortal patch

[viscid elbow]

and that's all the vanilla + starspace patches done

added the negative effects to Starspace (the spectral card) that i kept putting off
(+2 Antes, all hand levels reset to 1)

sure i can take out the +2 antes. it does kinda feel forced

it does currently have the same chance as The Soul to show up and only in Spectral packs, do you want me to amp up the chance a bit?

oh do we wanna let them show up in space packs? yea that can help too
i thought hypernova was the special spectral-stardust card

true :3

[plush eagle]

Check the starspace discord server for me voicing this

[viscid elbow]

last work for the day, i've implemented The Illusioned and Retribution

[hexed bloom]

astro i must ruin your doc with my ideas™

[plush eagle]

Well suggest some

[hexed bloom]

🤯

[plush eagle]

Seriously we’re open to suggestions

Send some here

[hexed bloom]

i eventually will

[hexed bloom]

i have concieved an ingenious idea
the hand type +hand size jokers (aka guileful joker and his league of super friends) but for suits (give +hand size for each {suit] in played hand,maybe suits give hand size instead of the joker on neutron star for some crazy retriggering build to happen)

[dusty matrix]

Wait, I'm a tag already..

[plush eagle]

oh ok lol

[dusty matrix]

I mean, I'm kinda bad at not telling offhanded marks from real comments and vice versa

Just make a new tag. I don't wanna replace any

[hexed bloom]

hi astro ADD ME TO YOUR BALATRO MOD pwease i can show you my deck

here's my deck

[rocky patrol]

peam

[thick kiln]

?

[thick kiln]

ah

[hexed bloom]

i should probably make art for twist blinds

[plush eagle]

We have art for twist blinds

[hexed bloom]

for all of them or for some of them

[plush eagle]

All of them

Check the doc

[hexed bloom]

there sure is art for them

only problem is that there will probably be more twist blinds

and they'll need art

[plush eagle]

Idk why are you talking here?

[viscid elbow]

this will make people less likely to help you

[hexed bloom]

awesomesauce

anyways here's twist ox (i tried my best to make the aleph symbol (the good version of it))

may or may not have messed the proportions on both twist ox' symbol AND the symbol i used for reference

great question

probably

anyways uhhh
subtract the max amount of debt you can go into? (if you can go into $0 of debt then you can go into $-1 of debt, not $1, $-1, you can't go below $1)

i was thinking it should be permanent but also if you say so

maybe for the next 3 rounds

deploy the link
i promise i won't post any dan hentschel videos

[deep sundial]

hotpot compat with hotpot’s stickers when

[viscid elbow]

cannibal -> charitable: when blind is selected, apply a random patch to this card

[viscid elbow]

@iron widget you fucked up the secret hand table
gimme a minute to download joyousspring and i'll take a crack at fixing it while not reintroducing the crash

[viscid elbow]

fixed

[unique rose]

Wait, the update is out now?

Like the new jokers at the bottom?

[viscid elbow]

starspace has not Released in a traditional sense
the code is available on a public repo if you'd like to download it. it is perpetually in beta because there's way more content we'd like to implement. the hand size jokers based on played hand types have been in the mod for about a week now

[unique rose]

Oh

No like I know it’s not in releases

But like

Are the hand-type jokers out now?

[viscid elbow]

the hand size jokers based on played hand types have been in the mod for about a week now

[unique rose]

Ah

[iron widget]

oh i see

[iron widget]

sry
result of programming at midnight lmao

[viscid elbow]

heads up, latest commit now requires latest smods (1016c)

[viscid elbow]

no worries lol

[warm path]

win

[deep sundial]

is there a starspace github

[plush eagle]

Yeah

Check pinned message

[deep sundial]

what about a discord?

[plush eagle]

You’ll have to ask Astro if you want in :P

But it’s probably a yes if you’re friends with him

@oblique rover

[deep sundial]

been some talk in starspacecord about buffing magic trick to be an actually good voucher

[deep sundial]

thoughts on this magic trick buff?

even disregarding the other problems it is still. so fucked that you need a tier 2 voucher to get actually good cards from it

why does the tier 1 only give cards with no modifications what the fuck

you’re making the mod! put it in a place that it wouldn’t

[viscid elbow]

have you played ortalab? there's a voucher there that adds an omen card slot, let me know if it seems fine or if you have any suggestions to improve it

[deep sundial]

you implemented it already?
got an image to show?

[viscid elbow]

no I'm asking astro to check how it looks in ortalab with the omen card slot, so that his feedback there can be used to guide the UI for when I implement it for magic trick

[deep sundial]

ah

-# got an image of how it looks in ortalab

[viscid elbow]

I can grab one after I finish eating

by default, the shop looks like regular balatro. after you pick up the Fate's Coin voucher, every shop after the one you bought the voucher in looks like this
my plans for magic trick would be to have the new playing card slot in the top right of the shop instead of bottom center, and definitely to make it stand out less

@deep sundial @oblique rover ^^

[jade sluice]

wait where

ah

[jade sluice]

[past sun]

What are these meant to be? I don't see them in the game, or any references in the files

[elfin marten]

I have a question

Why doesn't crystal work on shard

[viscid elbow]

^ joker retriggers don't actually count as a joker trigger itself

[elfin marten]

Aw man, that would've been cool if it did 😔

[viscid elbow]

if that was possible it would be very easy to slip into an infinite loop

[ruby sorrel]

infinite loops are cool

[plush eagle]

That’s why you can’t copy Crystal/shard with blueprint/brainstorm

[elfin marten]

Very fun mod tho

[unique rose]

And I don’t have an older backup of the mod either.

[unique rose]

Any of y’all got a copy?

[unique rose]

Immortal patch?

[ruby sorrel]

github... has permanent copies of old versions?

[unique rose]

Where?

[ruby sorrel]

commits tab

you can open the code on github to the line thats crashing and git blame it

to see what commit added it

then go back one and download that version

[unique rose]

You should find a way to give jokers patches

Using consumables or something

[unique rose]

White Hole?

Hmm

What are stardust cards about

[viscid elbow]

astral edition (featuring the sick new shader, which i tweaked slightly since i last showed it) is now available in the repo for testing

[unique rose]

Will get into it when I have time

[jade sluice]

rory nite

[viscid elbow]

my younger sister rory nite

[wanton parrot]

me when the nite is rory

[valid fog]

when am i being added /j

by that I meant my oc but that too lololo

[still quartz]

the selfglaze is unreal

wow that’s a surprising amount of jokers

🥀

lowk I thought there would be like 500 more Astro jokers

yes I saw aikoyuri

💔

fair ig

what jokers

alright glhf

[warm path]

this is fire

[still quartz]

waiter more blue jokers

[warm path]

more blueprints

[still quartz]

astroprint when?

[warm path]

?

[still quartz]

oh that’s already a thing?

wow I’m blind

Astro blue joker tho?

[plush eagle]

Bro that’s not Astro

That me

😭

[warm path]

i have fish memory sorry :c

[plush eagle]

It’s Okie

Gonna dm you stm

[viscid elbow]

behold
a +mult legendary

(just pushed to the repo along with the latest art)

[viscid elbow]

also pushed a couple of more jokers

[still quartz]

jesus christ that’s insane

[ivory inlet]

when the scales are double

[still quartz]

scalae jumpscare

whur

[still quartz]

💔

[still quartz]

sure

[viscid elbow]

blurgh
yea i'll fix it later
scale_card moment

maybe? idk

how about this
scale mult when card is scored, scale the scaling value based on number of unscored cards played

I wanted it to feel like an actual upgrade, negative is more of a lateral move than an improvement and I don't think just moving to the next edition in the collection is necessarily a good choice (especially with other mods installed)

true, haven't bothered adding it yet

[viscid elbow]

ok astral is available from cleansing now + meta got rebalanced

[ruby sorrel]

thats just an exponential gain with extra steps

quadrati

c

[viscid elbow]

well it still takes a minimum of 3 rounds if you pick up a cleansing polychrome joker :3

[viscid elbow]

we ended up nerfing it a bit, the scaling value now scales based on how many unscored cards you play

[ruby sorrel]

oh so its like og still water

[past pebble]

Is there a version of the mod availible for download?

[tender mural]

See pinned.

[past pebble]

Didn't know until just now that there's a way to download code from Github without releases

[plush eagle]

Warning: it is not fully complete and almost everything is subject to change.

[viscid elbow]

i'll be pushing the atlas soon, it's not on the repo yet

[balmy phoenix]

Damn that nice art

[plush eagle]

This one is Crystal endorsed it’s very good 👍

[manic radish]

Just gave this mod a shot, I love it a lot!

Glorp is my favorite joker, honestly really unique and a very creative idea

[ruby sorrel]

hi camo :3

[manic radish]

Hi sappy

I saw astro in your mod and got curious

[ruby sorrel]

oh yea

uhh did the localization fix itself

[balmy phoenix]

Stupid question but can't find anywhere to download this, is this still not available

[plush eagle]

Check pinned message

[balmy phoenix]

I am using mobile won't go up that high, it just hit you with loading messages but then sort crashes, cheap phone bad internet connection but guessing that mean it there

[tender mural]

https://github.com/MetaNite64/Starspace

[balmy phoenix]

That actually very hopefully thank you

[manic radish]

I LOVE FLASHES

[ruby sorrel]

what

[manic radish]

I just love how consistent they are, especially early game

[ruby sorrel]

oh the handtype

flashes are annoying bc they screw up a lot of high card + unscoring stuff strats

cheers

at least its not as bad as all the "low card" clones

[manic radish]

Sure!

[manic radish]

Oooh, nice one

[plush eagle]

Destroying some stupid jokers

[void remnant]

Become one with the cosmos.

gain all the mult.

[still quartz]

beat up the jokers

[modest rapids]

i cnat find it

[balmy phoenix]

Sequel edition is awesome idea

The bucket!!

[solid panther]

undertale 2..

real

i have some good joker art in my mod but a lot of them are still low quality placeholder art

same,,

except i actually did resprite some of my old jokers

only a few tho bc i'm lazy

yea same 😭

at least ur mod has multiple people working on it

my mod is just me,,

lol

[still quartz]

😭

beta release of a twink is crazy

[ruby sorrel]

ive also done some sprites

[brisk zenith]

-# plasma deck’s strongest unit

[ruby sorrel]

maybe draw modification?

wwell either or

like "draw x more cards" or "draw more cards when x happens"

or drawing a certain type of card

ye sure

this would go insane with cryptid actually

(the spectral)

[still quartz]

slimes people out 😭

[manic radish]

when the function has The Sludge

[manic radish]

It’s so pretty! Love the way you draw backgrounds

[solid panther]

"XChips is the same as XMult"
the humble plasma deck:

[viscid elbow]

"xchips is the same as xmult" how sad a life you must lead, poor fool, to bear such hatred for a whimsy as simple as xchips. do you truly believe that such an innocent, harmless joy is worth condemning? or do you hate simply because it is all you were taught, all you ever learned?

[deep sundial]

xchips is the same as xmult when echips walks in

(or when the xchips just doesnt fire last lmao)

[still quartz]

peak

[void remnant]

Cute

[deep sundial]

got any games on your phone

[ruby sorrel]

?

thx

[still quartz]

“guns don’t kill people, I do” - postal guy, 2012 or smth idfk

[ruby sorrel]

what

well uh

thats how retriggers work?

i dont see the issue

ok then copy blueprint

if blueprint doesnt have that issue then this shouldnt either

[ivory inlet]

how

blueprinting is like the simplest thing how does one fuck that up

im crine

[hushed surge]

this crash came in because +2 activated

[viscid elbow]

this is an issue with cryptlib
either update to the absolute latest commit version of cryptlib, or downgrade your smods to 1016c

@hushed surge

[hushed surge]

done so, no need to ping

[viscid elbow]

just making sure you saw

[hushed surge]

still busted
and i can't use smods that old, crashes on startup

[viscid elbow]

well it's definitely not a starspace issue, i just tested
maybe cryptlib hasn't fixed it yet. i know cryptid has

[hushed surge]

i got a similar crash with cards from other packs. i think multiplicative chips is just borked rn because of cryptlib, yelled in the cryptid discord about it and awaiting response

[ivory inlet]

it should be fixed on dev already

at least on cryptlib, idk about cryptid

[hushed surge]

last update: apparently i'm not alone on this issue, it's a smods issue, apparently cryptid/cryptlib tried deploying a fix but i'm not seeing it in action rn

[ivory inlet]

yeah its only on the latest dev version

not in a release

[hushed surge]

i'm using the latest main.zip commit for cryptlib and smods and it's still happening

[ivory inlet]

wait

nevermind

cryptid did a new release apparently

but cryptlib most definitely has the issue fixed since i dont have that crash with latest

[hushed surge]

and i've been testing with the same bug on mods that don't use cryptlib
i really don't know because it's still doing the dame dang thing

[ivory inlet]

well other mods can also have the bug too

especially more niche mods

[hushed surge]

i just re-tested it with a joker in ortalab, which you could argue is the opposite of niche
everything's updated, same thing

[ivory inlet]

ortalab doesnt even have the localization section that causes the crash

so its another mod overriding existing localization that its using

[hushed surge]

ok cryptid proper does fix it, it just has not been deployed right to cryptlib

[ivory inlet]

well the localization entries are identical for both so you probably just have outdated cryptlib then

[viscid elbow]

no they're on latest, the version was only updated to 1.1.5 a few hours ago

[hushed surge]

once again, i would like to iterate
this was the latest main commit. with the latest code update that happened a couple hours ago

[viscid elbow]

anyway we should probably take this out of the starspace thread lol

[hushed surge]

oddly enough the latest github release from a couple weeks ago says 1.2, this is likely devs' error

[viscid elbow]

yea ruby never updated the actual version number in the mod for 1.2

[hushed surge]

last thing and i'll shut up
apparently you're right, i changed the priority in cryptlib and it's working

[ivory inlet]

ah

that is quite strange

but if it works it works ig

[plush eagle]

Why did you post that here 😭

[manic radish]

He busted a buffoon so space that even his astros starred him

[still quartz]

busted a buffoon 😭

[lament quiver]

did you know that this is a mod?

[plush eagle]

it is

[still quartz]

did you know that

Astro from starspace is in this mod

[lament quiver]

did you know that jokers are in this mod?

[viscid elbow]

astounding information

i'm learning so much

[still quartz]

wow

I didn’t know that

[still quartz]

same

[plush eagle]

did you know that there are seals in this mod?

[lament quiver]

no

seals dont exist

[plush eagle]

magic seal joker

[still quartz]

seal joker?

where?

[plush eagle]

in the docs

not implemented yet

[still quartz]

oh yeah I found it lol

[brisk zenith]

did you know astro novalite dies

[valid fog]

WHAT NO!!!!

[valid fog]

oh god

rory night confirmed

[still quartz]

what does he die of

a skill issue?

[fair crest]

Where's everyone going? Bingo?

[still quartz]

idk

[hushed surge]

currently reinstalling all my mods because i think i broke something in mass updating
apparently the latest commit is borked because it can't find a bunch of jokers that were removed

i'm going to try something manually
just editing the utilities.lua manually to strike out what has been removed might fix it

update: fix worked

[oblique rover]

hey guys im back here now im probably not gonna talk in this server as much but --

mod owner is back to modding

[oblique rover]

yeah that's what i did lmao

I CANT EDIT MY TOP MESSAGE

ughhh i just wanna delete this thread and restart

[fair crest]

Oh bloody hell

You're back

[oblique rover]

yeah im gonna shill !!! and im gonna shill harder

i deleted the original doc link

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L3V4g_EBQQAnaU_eX96W0VFqI9LkMihMGG982mC_7Vk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

we have a spreadsheet now

[oblique rover]

mhm

[still quartz]

oh hi stro

[cosmic ridge]

oh welcome back

[oblique rover]

im busy purging everything i sent before 2026 aka everything before i left this server originally

i was way too cringe back then and i dont wanna acknowledge me being real before this year

But yes, I am back

[wanton parrot]

tired: return of Astro
wired: Astro, for the very first time

[still quartz]

fired: astro burnt at the stake

[oblique rover]

bro please it hasn't even been an hour 😭

anyways I'm probably gonna try and get this thread completely restarted because I want to get rid of all the shit fuck old art so if you wanna say anything make sure to save it or some shit

[ivory inlet]

hired: astro gets some job idfk

[tender mural]

🥧: 🤖

[oblique rover]

meow meow meow AUGHGHHGGHHGHG

[ivory inlet]

mired: astro gets sent to a swamp

[still quartz]

dired: astro almost explodes

[echo hamlet]

sage getting erased bricked my copy of starspace

[oblique rover]

because Revo forgot to remove all of ████

████ is still in the lib.utilities file

lib.utilities is what Meta used to order jokers

[echo hamlet]

their name got erased.. didnt they

[oblique rover]

I think right now they're restarting the repo from the top

[oblique rover]

do you not know why?

[oblique rover]

sorry for the double ping but ████ was a former moderator in my discord server. she tried banning someone just because she found them annoying so I tried to veto it

she got angry and deleted half the channels on the server, which led to her getting banned permanently

so i had to delete all instances of her from the mod

which led me down a rabbit hole of wanting to entirely "de-████ify" the mod

which is why I made the switch to Google Sheets, and why a lot of the jokers and effects are either gone or changed in the sheets

the repo does not reflect this as it has a lot of old content (long deleted jokers, messy formatting,) which is why we are planning to start from the top in that regard too

[tender mural]

Christ.

[echo hamlet]

genuine wrath towards a simple slight

[oblique rover]

I wasn't even that harsh tho 😭 if we continued to ban people based off vibes alone we would get fuckin shot in the bronx

[oblique rover]

<@&1460584319486791871> i want this thread deleted as it has a lot of old content and people that i have since removed, and i don't want people to get the wrong impression with all this old stuff that i have vigorously wanted gone
-# plus i left during 2025 and all the stuff i said here is making me cringe half to death

[viscid elbow]

(we aren't abandoning the mod, but we're taking a bit of a fresh start approach)

[oblique rover]

i will reinstate it afterwards

yeah

delete this

[cedar marsh]

What happened here

[oblique rover]

i left in 2025, we are restarting the thread

because there is so much bumfuck old stuff here that I don't want

-# including a person that isn't in the dev team anymore

[cedar marsh]

Oh I see

So essentially a reboot of a mod

Well good luck to you Astro

also I genuinely hope I can get the motivation to actually start working on mine

Thx

[fallow crow]

deleted or closed/locked?

sorry I was sleeping at 1 am 😡 😡

[oblique rover]

old starspace thread

[fallow crow]

okay, I'll lock it for you in case there's some stuff you want to salvage out of the thread, because you never know

no one will talk in it or bring it back up to the top