#Black deck balance proposal #7381983

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void lake
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Taking into account that blue stake is getting reworked, black deck could lose a discard instead of a hand

mortal ermine
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It should lose 2 hands to counterbalance the strength gained from the extra discard from blue stake rework.

hazy scaffold
mortal ermine
hexed meteor
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I call it painted deck

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You start with +2 hand size but -1 joker slot

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So you can play better hands

hazy scaffold
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Ehh

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What if we made the deck more consistent to a fault

mortal ermine
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I don't know about that one, I don't think thunk would ever add it

hazy scaffold
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Like only two suits

hexed meteor
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But the same amount of cards as other decks

mortal ermine
hexed meteor
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What about a deck that has NO face cards

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localthunk would love it

mortal ermine
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No that wouldn't be balanced, it would be too easy to deckfix.

hexed meteor
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Yeah Im sorry

mortal ermine
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Plus the reduced deck size would mess up erosion and blue joker

hexed meteor
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Only stupid people would think of that

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VERY stupid people

haughty gulch
mortal ermine
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I don't know, having a joker change like that feels modded

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And with such a small deck size people would farm the small hands achievement with it.

haughty gulch
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I'm sure it'll be fine

upper night
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just abandon that deck idea already

hexed meteor
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Abandoned deck? I like that name...

ivory rune
fast trail
mortal ermine
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Then it stays balanced

wind valve
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I feel like it could be -2 discards

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Maybe even make it the inverse of painted by making it -1 hand size

mortal ermine
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Well, then it should be -2 hand size to make up the full difference

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Perhaps keep the - 1 hand too

void lake
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Thx for the feedback guys 😭

fast trail
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why dont we make it 1 hand, 1 discard, 1 hand size, 1 dollar max, 1 joker slot and 1 consumable slot

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that way its more balenced

torpid wharf
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The power of one (TM)

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Sounds like an absolute vile challenge run.

haughty gulch
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1 shop slot

torpid wharf
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You can get past the first ante by getting either a top up tag or an arcana pack tag with a soul or judgement.

haughty gulch
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maybe it can be balanced by doing 1 ante to win?

torpid wharf
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In order to actually buy anything you need to land a credit card.

fast trail
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oh your right

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neat

torpid wharf
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You know, despite how awful it sounds, I think it's actually possible to win. Not that I'd have any fun doing so.

haughty gulch
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is there any set of 4 common jokers that lets you beat an ante 1 boss blind with a single ace in your deck?

fast trail
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itd be reset hell but its possible

torpid wharf
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Not 4, 1 joker slot, you're going to have to rely on natural negatives

haughty gulch
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oh

fast trail
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my gag

haughty gulch
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let's also say 1 hand size for funny

torpid wharf
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It is already 1 hand size

haughty gulch
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oh

fast trail
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im a balatro fan i cant read haha im so funny

torpid wharf
fast trail
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such a clever joker

torpid wharf
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So yeah, natural negative photochad doesn't cut it, that's 25*8 = 400 points and you need 600 to pass the first boss. However, smiley Chad would get you across the finish line if you can pull a face card.

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For ante 1.

fast trail
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wouldnt scholar and chad be enough

torpid wharf
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Yes should be, but scholar is only aces, 1/13. Face cards are 4/13

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Not that... We're really dealing with realistic probabilities

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Haha

fast trail
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ohh right i was personally thinking it would be a single ace becuase thats a 1

haughty gulch
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well if we say your deck is just the one card it should probably be an ace

torpid wharf
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Oooh nice meme ok

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Yeah scholar Chad will do it

fast trail
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but yeah if it must be a random then yeah simle sounds good

torpid wharf
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Can top up tag generate natural negatives?

fast trail
haughty gulch
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is buffoon tag mega

fast trail
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i mean why not judgment

fast trail
haughty gulch
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ah

torpid wharf
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Ante 2

haughty gulch
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dang, would've been nice

torpid wharf
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Oh top up is also ante 2

fast trail
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so it has to be from arcana packs then

haughty gulch
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spectral and juggle tags could give you a 3oak

fast trail
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doesnt limit us to commons

fast trail
hazy scaffold
haughty gulch
hazy scaffold
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Lemme run some math

fast trail
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yeah scholar chad is great

hazy scaffold
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Scholar, banner, suit joker for whatever suit the ace is

haughty gulch
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i doubt judgement can spawn jokers with editions

hazy scaffold
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Should win w/o any other help?

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3 commons

torpid wharf
haughty gulch
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oh

torpid wharf
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I just looked it up

haughty gulch
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i guess you could scholar chad it then

fast trail
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yeah i knew that one

hazy scaffold
fast trail
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same with soul

hazy scaffold
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This scores 920

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Acc

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Just need scholar + banner

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No need for the suit joker either, but barely

fast trail
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yeah its possable with 2

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but what about 1 joker

hazy scaffold
haughty gulch
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in the boss blind shop is there anything good to buy?

hazy scaffold
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RNG highball Misprint doesn't get there

hazy scaffold
haughty gulch
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you only have $1 and your slots are full

fast trail
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yeah im stougling

torpid wharf
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Two arcana tags: Judgment (Neg Scholar) + Soul (Neg Perkeo), Judgment (Neg Chad), Fool -> Judgement (Negative Blueprint)

Ante 2 shop has Credit Card. Pick up Pluto and Perkeo it.

fast trail
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oooo now we are talking

haughty gulch
fast trail
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i mean it does but thats for going up past ante 1

haughty gulch
fast trail
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Fortune Teller i think is the only joker that could theoretically single it

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youd need insane luck

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but its possible

torpid wharf
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How?

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Oh, I see

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Using Showman and Emperor

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Or I guess you could get fool without showman

fast trail
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yeah i was gonna say

haughty gulch
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emperor fool looping?

fast trail
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not viable but possible

haughty gulch
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maybe there's a bugged seed that'll do it

fast trail
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or errosian if you dont wanna play by the abandon deck rules