#ShadoMBulb's Frame by Frame Bug Testing

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cerulean lily
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Making a thread incase anyone wants to ask questions but it also makes it so I can do this digitally instead of on paper

cerulean lily
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Bug 1:
PBS bug
(Playing Blind in the Shop)

How to perform:
Gain a Luchador

Buy a pack and leave the shop at the same time (frame perfect)

Go to boss blind and skip the pack, while playing a hand to win the blind

While in the blind transition phase, sell Luchador

Cashout, then select the blind while clicking next round

Play a hand, and select a blind

Play a hand, cashout (swap hands/discards if you dont see the play hand button)

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Result:

You have retained the score of that last hand, and with dna can probably do some wacky things that Ill test tmr and edit this message about

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Incase anyone wants to see for yourself or test goofy things, heres the frame by frame mod I use, doesnt require steamodded and was created by Mathisfun_

📎 framebyframe.zip
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i = freeze frame
o = advance a frame
There are some bugs that require you to be at low game speed for enough frames but Ill emphasize in my how to guides when you need to

livid sable
cerulean lily
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Bug 2:
Not Named

How to perform:
Gain a setup like the first screenshot where you have 2 things you want to buy at once (not packs/vouchers)

Go to 0.5x speed

Click the first thing you want to buy and freeze frame

Buy the first thing advance a frame while hovering over 2nd thing you want to buy

Click the 2nd thing you want to buy and advance a frame, advance another frame while on buy

Buy the 2nd thing you want

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Result:

Depending on what you did this with the result varies

For jokers/consumables, you can go over the cap (as seen in image 2)

If you buy and use any 2 consumables, it breaks the shop, but there is a way to avoid this softlock with half of the first bug (will explain later)

Using 2 fools creates 2 copies of the previous used tarot, not 1 copy of it and 1 copy of fool 😦

With ankh, if you buy and use you can duplicate the same joker 2x without destroying the first copy (Ill explain more later when I have the timings)

With multiple Hex/Incantation you crash the game since it cant find a 2nd joker to edition (unless for incantation you have 2 empty slots)

This bug can be done 3 times to go over slots even more, though buy and use takes a few more frames to perform so it can only do 2

You can also go into debt early game to get a massive start on jokers or something which could be another great use!

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ShadoMBulb's Frame by Frame Bug Testing

static wharf
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Like, no bug found is specific to the mod itself that can't be reproduced on a vanilla copy?

cerulean lily
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Yeah

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Ive been testing with steamodded so there is a chance something wacky can happen, but Ive tested a few things without it like an infinite skip/money system that worked

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The only thing I see that could go wrong is something like steamodded prevents a crash with like selling luchador in a boss blind while in a shop/blind select or something goofy like that which would just be crazy, so I feel it should all work

cerulean lily
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Btw if you have any questions or a project you are working on with this Im happy to help, my goal is to find and advance the bugs and then make them more wide spread for everyone to have fun with

cerulean lily
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Bug 3: (Technically I found this first but we ignore my ordering on these things lol)
Dia

How to perform:
While in a position like the first screenshot, freeze time

Click select

Move mouse over skip

Advance a frame and click skip

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Result:
You can gain the reward from the skip and still play the blind for the shop

Packs are a bit wonky with this, you can see for yourself how they work

Double tags make it even more wonky

cerulean lily
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I figured out how to do the ankh thing and I actually got to use it here

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This run is using a bug Ill post tmr since Im posting 1 a day to get back into the shop over and over, and also letting you do bug 3 for infinite tags (first started with speed for those $17k and later double tags so I can mess around)

livid sable
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you probably shouldnt use smods tbf

cerulean lily
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I tested the infinite combo without it so worst case scenario that still exists

I fear bug 2 could break tbh, Idk why it would but I just dont want to see it happen

static wharf
cerulean lily
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Well its because there is nothing for it to edition

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Ill try it though, and Ig without steamodded later

static wharf
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from what I know, 2k9h9hn has first wheel polychrome to help out the need to seed hunt for a working wheel

cerulean lily
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Oh alright

static wharf
cerulean lily
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I doubt it

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doesnt crash when you double ankh or double planet

cerulean lily
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Yeah WoF crashes with ectoplasm since no target

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which makes sense, they cant stack or overwrite eachother so

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it commits sudoku

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Yeah you can do it without steamodded

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Now Im 100% confident it all works, also funny I can use high priestess there and it does nothing

cerulean lily
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Bug 4:
Not Named

How to perform:
Get in a shop while having enough to buy a pack

Freeze frame

Click buy on pack, and move mouse over next round

Advance a frame

Click next round

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Result:
You will have a pack carried with you as you play (as seen above)

You can do multiple things with this that I will now all demonstrate in their unique bug dialog or whatever you wanna call these

cerulean lily
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Result:
You will be in the blind, while also in the shop (I did a boss blind to help show that though its doable on any fight)

This itself has funny interactions, notably you can now get infinite stuff with Perkeo, with Bug 3 you can get infinite money, and any other tag using double tag (though be careful, the time you have to click and hold skip is less so youll need to use Frame by Frame to time that)

On boss blinds, you still get the effect so if I opened a tarot pack and saw a diamond above, itd be debuffed. Acorn would flip your jokers, and then you can buy a different joker which can be funny with 1 flipped one not. You can use crimson heart to debuff astronomer and planets wont be free in shop ect. ect.

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Bug 4B:
GH2 (Named as a homage to Ghost Hand in the end of September demo)
Ghost Hand 2

How to perform:
Repeat bug 4A, but before letting go, freeze frame

Set speed to 0.5x speed

Select a hand you want to play by hovering over a card, advancing a frame, and moving it to the far right till you have all the cards you want selected (Like image 1)

When the leftmost card starts to leave (do advance frames till it happens) click Play Hand and advance a frame

Go to settings, and swap hands/discards twice

Repeat until all cards are gone

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Result:
You will play that hand multiple times in a combined manner (combined meaning if I played 6 hands in the above example, I wouldnt play 6 hands of 1 ace of spades, I would instead play 6 hands of 6 ace of spades since it sees it as playing 6 unique cards in 6 different hands)

You can go into negative hands

Having more hand size gives you more time to play more hands, which is what I did to play 110 and get jokerless naneinf

If a glass card breaks from this, it gets stuck on screen and softlocks you

This will duplicate the cards played

Formula for how many cards you would duplicate would be:
(Amount of cards played x Amount of Hands played) x Amount of hands played - Original cards played

You can go above 5 cards played with this, and can form a flush five with basically 1 card now if you do it 5 times

With photograph, you will play multiple "First cards" since each hand always has 1, so if you play 5 high card of a king, thats a 5 flush with each card giving 2x

cerulean lily
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Bug 4C: (or C4 cause like... yk its an explosive... alright Ill shut up now)
Not Named

How to perform:
Repeat Bug 4A, but before letting go, freeze frame

Advance a frame, hover over a card, click the card

Play the card

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Result:
Same as bug 4A, however, the cards you played wont appear until you truly beat the blind, and your score is retained

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I really shouldve explained this bug before bug 1 but Im to lazy to fix it now

cerulean lily
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8 bajillion double tags also an option, skip for 10k level hand, or 10k hand size with the other bug that duplicates the cards to put them all in hand and play 1000 hands at once

The possibilities are endless lol

cerulean lily
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Bug 2A:
Double Ankh

How to perform:
Get in a position with 1 ankh in the shop, and 1 in your consumables

Freeze frame and go to 0.5x speed

Click buy and use on the ankh in the shop (make sure you have other ankh also selected)

Advance a frame onto the other ankh's use button

Click the use

If you are scared to mess something up, stay on 0.5x for the future, though its not necessary for this next part

Once the animations finish, click the next round button (otherwise a card area will softlock the game)

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Result:
You will be able to use 2 ankhs on the same joker without 1 destroying the use of the other

If you have 2 eternals, using this bug can allow you to hit the same joker 2x which can lower the rng of it hitting something else (that or Im insanely lucky lol)

stable nacelle
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Hacker

cerulean lily
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Oh no however will I ever recover from this

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woe is me

cerulean lily
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Combination of SUAS + Infinite looping (yk what Im gonna call the bugs Exo and dia so together they create Exodia) + buying suash while using ankh to go over limit

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stable nacelle
cerulean lily
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I dont think bro got the joke from earlier

static wharf
cerulean lily
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Yup

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Thats part of SUAS

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End of round triggers every time

stable nacelle
cerulean lily
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My world is ending

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I cant handle all of this hate, I might explode

cerulean lily
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Yk I only now realized I can do the bug with juggler tags and use ankh/ectoplasms from the shop to then create 1000s of gift cards. Sure its only temperary butttt it looks cool

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its that or I do multiple chicot bug 10000 times which... I mean I could

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but Im not gonna

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probably

stable nacelle
cerulean lily
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Alright, it wasnt funny the first time, and a bit funny the second time, but now can you please stop pinging me and just repeating the same thing

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its coming off as rude

stable nacelle
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i replied

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Hacker

cerulean lily
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Replying still @s people

stable nacelle
cerulean lily
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and also I dont care about the ping part, its still annoying having this thing that Im making for others out of my own time and passion being full of 1 person calling the person doing bugs a hacker

stable nacelle
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Bruh

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if you dont like hacker

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Bugger

cerulean lily
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I told you

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thats not the problem

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its you filling the thread with nonsense

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you are just rage baiting to rage bait

stable nacelle
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filling??

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but its like

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5 messages

cerulean lily
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If you keep respondin gn every time I type with hacker than it could grow to filling with 100 messages

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I shall now ignore future messages that appear

static wharf
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like, is there a period where the blind is active but before chicot appears or is it not possible?

cerulean lily
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There is 1 case but I dont think you can do that

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Since you camt get soul in the shop

static wharf
cerulean lily
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Nah, 99% sure it doesnt exist

static wharf
cerulean lily
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If you bought and used soul at the same time as selling luchador while in the shop which is in the boss blind

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But I mean what did you have in mind? Was it just a question to see if it was possible or did you want to try something?

static wharf
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i.e stacking luchadour and chichot

cerulean lily
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I mean if you have one chicot with enough time using the bugs (as long as you have the money) you can get an ankh to do double chicot

static wharf
cerulean lily
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Oh I see

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It would make it a more way to do a bug in a run so itd be cool but actually doing it doesnt seem feasable

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Though tbf I technically havent tested what happens if you use soul and get chicot while you are in a boss blind in a shop

static wharf
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worst case, 0 frames or impossible

cerulean lily
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I wish... Ive tested with other beginning of round things and it should be 0...

cerulean lily
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Locked and loaded for tonight (hopefully)

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Had to download Saturn for obvious reasons of lag

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and I already had cartomancer mod but same thing

stable nacelle
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How

cerulean lily
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Perkeo

cerulean lily
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Well that didnt work

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Guess you cant go to 0 handsize and perform SUAS… unfortunate

static wharf
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1086/900 isn't possible normally, another frame-perfect trick?

cerulean lily
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Score carries over from bug 4

static wharf
cerulean lily
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Oh with the hand being disabled?

static wharf
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since I assume that if you play any hand at that point, you insta-win since the calcuation happens

static wharf
cerulean lily
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Fair

cerulean lily
cerulean lily
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I managed to do a Coffee bean strat bug thingy en mass, it just requires doing SUAS so it doesnt really matter since youll be on ante 100 or something but its still funny Ig

livid sable
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bean?!?!

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what did you do to the poor bean

cerulean lily
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I used ankh while I had multiple Merry andys on crimson heart boss while doing SUAS and for some reason lost a bunch of hand size, so my guess is its just another Coffee bean strat but way more complicated for no reason. Maybe theres a chance it can be done on a non-boss fight because of this to gain hand size but its just to slow compared to other strats

cerulean lily
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Stupid I know you are a bit tech savvy (since you help a bit with mods) so I wondered if you can answer a question on why a scenario thats happening happens when I would imagine it being different

Actually I may have found an answer? Ill have to do more testing with this

cerulean lily
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I may have gotten a pack in my deck?

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My mind cant handle all this 😭

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Idk I think I need to retain score and get luchador to win because I cant play hands

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Its weird

cerulean lily
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Btw its not that I dont have bugs that Im not posting stuff in here

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its just every bug I can post can just be done better with the above bugs, and Id rather find something like how to infinitely reuse the same orbital tags and get lvl 1 million hands or something fun like that

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which Ive tried a few times to crack but have never figured anything out, so yeah, maybe with help knowing how the internal code works with that and the alternate dimension bug thingy I could get something going, but I just kinda dont see the point of changing infinity --> infinity and just want the game to update at this point and patch things