Joker Forge - Create Balatro Mods Visually and Export the Lua Files (WIP)

[heady frost]

yeah lol

i dont even like tea

for reference i made onion rings and a chicken breast

[icy crow]

goodmorning are you cleaning your download folder or does it also look like this?

[heady frost]

yes lol

[icy crow]

Good lord

[heady frost]

i love not cleaning out my downloads

[iron tiger]

you're not truly using joker forge if your downloads doesn't have MyBalatroMod.zip (9999)

[heady frost]

lmao you have as much space on your C: and i have just in my downloads

oh shit half the space

i have 5tb ssd

[icy crow]

your trash is worth more than double

some day i'll maybe upgrade the disc

[heady frost]

well i have a 1tb ssd nvme for my c: and a 4tb sata ssd for my files and stuff

[heady frost]

you should do

[icy crow]

i'd prefer to upgrade the pc itself

[heady frost]

first thing i did when i got lots of money was blow thousands on a new computer

[heady frost]

did u build ur pc

[icy crow]

i have a laptop 🥲

[heady frost]

bro thats crazy

my condolences

[icy crow]

like your average "work laptop"

[heady frost]

my laptop has like 500gb too

but i never use it lol

[heady frost]

fire still

i have a thinkpad with like a ryzen 5 3600x in it i believe

but it has linux mint on it

[icy crow]

i upgraded the ram 2 months ago so i can have more than 2 chrome tabs open at a time

[heady frost]

how much do you have now

[icy crow]

16 GB

[alpine elk]

How do you do probabilities?

[icy crow]

You mean like oops all 6's type of thing?

the new trigger

[alpine elk]

Ye

[icy crow]

in the special category

then you have mostly usual conditions

[alpine elk]

Nono i mean like there's a 1 in 4 chance for something to happen typa thing

[icy crow]

liar

[alpine elk]

I didn't understand what you ment

*meant

[icy crow]

green button

[alpine elk]

Oh ok

Thx

[crude trail]

How the grinch stole christmas 2000 resmatered blueray 1080p

LMAO

[crude trail]

Is 6 GB enough?

[wild pier]

sending my json so i can transport it

[icy crow]

its called .jokerforge!

[lime notch]

should be uncommon

[alpine elk]

No

Because then you can't have only common jokers

[lime notch]

Yeah

Point?

[alpine elk]

That would make the joker useless

[lime notch]

Yeah

Point?

[alpine elk]

🤦‍♂️

That was the point

[woeful bough]

You can only have common jokers so it literally wouldn't work

[alpine elk]

Ikr

It's just ragebait

[lime notch]

it'd also be ass as an uncommon also how is it bait when its on you for missing the bit

[woeful bough]

Ragebait isn't funny and there was no bit

[lime notch]

the bit WAS that it was useless

also how do you know that there was no bit

[wild pier]

.jokerfirge doesnt work on mobile

so i cant transport my files no mo

fuck.

add a setting where you can make it .json instead

[icy crow]

?

[wild pier]

take abbysamazingmod. from earlier

i downloaded it

[heady frost]

it should just download

[wild pier]

it does this on mobile

[verbal goblet]

Amazing name

[icy crow]

It downloaded as this for me on mobile

.jokerforge.json

[verbal goblet]

Edit the .Json out

[wild pier]

yeah but on pc its just .jokerforge

not .jokerforge.json

[icy crow]

i can normally import .jokerforge files on mobile

saving on mobile results with .jokerforge.json tho

and you can still import .json files

[verbal goblet]

You're on phone right?

[icy crow]

i tested on android

[verbal goblet]

And does .JokerForge.jason work?

[icy crow]

you can import both .jokerforge and .json files

[slate glen]

not in my bit of england

it do be like that doe

[uneven hedge]

my game keeps crashing, do i just send the jokerforge file here and wait or is there anything else i need to do?

[icy crow]

im checking it rn

can you also send the error message?

noted

goodmorning is this my fault or your fault?

-# error is the first comma btw

[icy crow]

for now you can just delete that comma in the file the error mentions

i'll fixing it rn

oh come on

[uneven hedge]

now another joker crashes with seemingly the same error, i guess ill just wait until its fixed lol

[alpine elk]

My mod so far

[icy crow]

do both of those have chance in their description?

[uneven hedge]

yea

[icy crow]

fire art btw

[uneven hedge]

(stock image from google images)

lol

[icy crow]

🙏

[uneven hedge]

tho ive done the art for a few of them like the one right next to it lol

[icy crow]

we love fixes that require one line change

[uneven hedge]

does this fix the game crashing when i hover over stuff with probabilities too

[icy crow]

what's your smods version

should be under the error

[alpine elk]

Is there a way to make a joker that copies all jokers?

[uneven hedge]

this?

[heady frost]

update smods

[icy crow]

yeah update

[uneven hedge]

fk

lol

[icy crow]

merge my pr !!!

ty

[uneven hedge]

steamodded update fixed the probability crashes but this still happens

[icy crow]

God damnit

[uneven hedge]

happens on two jokers which both share a gamevar being displayed in the joker description if that helps

[icy crow]

I'll check it in a few minutes

[icy crow]

That helps actually

Was it in game or in the main menu?

[uneven hedge]

in the main menu but hold on i think its a me issue

let me try fixing something rq

yeah its for sure a me problem sry

[smoky sorrel]

is there a way to only show options if a specific trigger is selected?

i mean code wise

[icy crow]

What was the problem?

[uneven hedge]

i was trying to fix the original crash by just removing stuff until it stopped crashing (so id know which jokers are the issue) and i forgot to add back the stuff
so it was basically trying to display nothing

epic fail

[icy crow]

The fix was merged

[oblique sail]

wrong colour

[woeful bough]

still doesnt work for me lol

[oblique sail]

it uses red instead of hearts for the "Heart" and orange for the 1 in 2

[heady frost]

that's strange, is it all fine in game tho

[oblique sail]

the code seems wrong too

where is the 1 in 2?

[icy crow]

huh

[icy crow]

oh no we need another vanilla update

[verbal goblet]

Im wondering, s there a way to make an "If not, then" in JokerForge?

[verbal goblet]

We need several

[smoky sorrel]

yes, click the X button in the condition

[icy crow]

red button

[icy crow]

the random groups changed

[verbal goblet]

Ah, i always assumed it was just for deleting it lol

Thanks yall

[smoky sorrel]

i thought the same

[icy crow]

it tries to do this

and needs to do this

👀

[verbal goblet]

And also, most of the vanilla stuff from joker forge is just outplain weird lol

[icy crow]

apparently the bloodstone was orange since the very beginning

[icy crow]

they were created a while ago

[smoky sorrel]

can photograph work as intended now?

[uneven hedge]

update: it was not a me problem, still crashes after i add everything back

[icy crow]

I'll check it out a bit later

[crude trail]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how good is it?

[verbal goblet]

9/10, bit too loud imo

[icy crow]

working on it now

oh god this fix will be long

[wild pier]

i think i might make a pack song wait

[icy crow]

basically it's trying to access your deck (which is nil in the main menu)

[woeful bough]

this was an issue i had when i made a joker that used the "joker couint" gamevar, it crashed whenever i hovered over it.

[icy crow]

i think it was an issue for a long time

[icy crow]

yeah

[woeful bough]

goodmorning fixed i thought tho

cuz it works fine now for me

[icy crow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wait

[verbal goblet]

happened to me with the hand size variable

hovered over it on the menu, crashed

[icy crow]

this is going to be a pain

[white oyster]

I don't want to sound impatient or anything like that, but is there an ETA on when there may be a potential update to the jokerforge website to add more features? Been loving using it, just wondering if/when there'll be new features added so I can vary the jokers I make more

[icy crow]

would this be readable later?

"#((G.deck or {}).cards or {})"

[icy crow]

we average like 2 commits an hour

this site is in rapid development

[white oyster]

ah alright, very cool

[icy crow]

latest feature added was ~7-8h ago i believe

[wild pier]

cant wait for a preview of balatro appearing in the website so we can play our mod without downloading the zip file [with crash logs]

[icy crow]

you know what

thats a fire idea

code it

[ashen prairie]

Making a third version of the "if contains" seires is hard. Money is already taken by Familiar, and "does not" is taken by Ortalab, so this is kinda my only option.

[heady frost]

hey guys

[ashen prairie]

I mean, I gotta do SOMETHING for each poker hand, right?

[icy crow]

hello

[heady frost]

sorry if im not developing loads this weekend, my gf is at my flat and we are just chilling lol

i will create consumables starting monday maybe

[icy crow]

your game vars have no nil check so it crashes when put into locvars and hovered

(im fixing it)

[heady frost]

youve been grinding tho

[iron tiger]

We playing russian roulette with this one 🔥 🔥 🔥

[heady frost]

thats why i did the or 0

[icy crow]

have fun

[heady frost]

ideally they should be added to set ability to be initialised with a value

[iron tiger]

Bottom one is just Runner but worse

[heady frost]

or something like that

theres a couple of them

[icy crow]

that doesn't make a difference

for the specific cases

#G.discard.cards will crash either way for example

[heady frost]

why would it if it initialises with 0

0 is different from nil

[icy crow]

(in main menu)

when you add these to loc_vars

[heady frost]

yeah, so in loc vars you make it or 0

[icy crow]

they crash in main menu

[ashen prairie]

Do I have a choice?

[heady frost]

gamevar or 0 kinda thing

[icy crow]

still doesn't work

[icy crow]

.

[ashen prairie]

@iron tiger If you have ideas for what I can do for the poker please PUH-LEASE let me know

[heady frost]

it might be because maybe smods changed something because honestly my method was a hacky method anyways

[iron tiger]

Make it gains BOTH chips and mult

[ashen prairie]

Good idea, actually

[heady frost]

also @icy crow you have been going ham on this shit honestly

its been so heartwarming to see

[ashen prairie]

maybe like, -25% of each tho, to balance

[icy crow]

i've been spending my free time mostly coding

i started to play some minecraft in the meantime since yesterday to not get burned out

👀

[heady frost]

i hope you have been getting some valuable experience, you are better than i was when i was your age haha

[icy crow]

did i forget to remove my birth year somewhere 🤔

[heady frost]

your github says your age, also i remember you told me your age like a month ago lol

[icy crow]

i generally dont keep it a secret anywhere so

[icy crow]

oh

you read that

uhhhhh

[heady frost]

but i think your age there is outdated anyways

[icy crow]

yeah

by one year

[heady frost]

for reference guys im only 21 im not ancient

[icy crow]

i didn't think someone would see this block of text and read it fully

[ashen prairie]

👏 I HAVE AN IDEA
Some of the cards make up new hands for you to play, like Spectrum for example.
And since they uh, don't have planet cards, they scale.

[heady frost]

i do wanna implement new hands, suits, and ranks eventually

but this will probably be after other major stuff gets implemented like boosters, enhancements, what have you

i should probably make a roadmap tab on the website

[icy crow]

good lord it's been a long time

[heady frost]

and also make a "development" tab so i can move the track development component there and also list the contributors there too

maybe the roadmap is part of the development tab who knows

[ashen prairie]

Trust me, I can do just fine with what you've given me. I play limited maker games like Mario Maker, RPGMaker, and Warioware DIY. I'm a goddess at this kind of thing.

[heady frost]

its been crazy seeing what some people have been making, i bet im not even that good at joker forge lmao

[ashen prairie]

I've honestly gotten a bit smug about how good I am, which is nice to feel good at something for once

[white oyster]

am I missing something that gives Bloodstone the 1 in 2 chance to trigger this effect?

[heady frost]

i think the besst jokers people can make are the ones that reveal bugs in our code generation lol

[heady frost]

nah, its just not included

lol

[icy crow]

random group

[heady frost]

i think i made it a long time ago and since then random chance has been completely rewritten

i will change it now

[icy crow]

the bloodstone from vanilla reforged is broken

[icy crow]

yup

also apparently it was orange from the start

[white oyster]

ah so would this only trigger once then or would it be once for each seperate card

[heady frost]

because back then, there were no groups, each effect just had its own associated probability

[heady frost]

once for each card

aslong as that card is clubs

[white oyster]

alright cool, thanks

[smoky sorrel]

i think its crazy that we can do this kind of thing

6 rules

[heady frost]

i wouldnt even know how you created that lmao

[icy crow]

a roadmap similar to roadmap.sh would be cool

[smoky sorrel]

the $25 is a range between 10 and 25

[heady frost]

thats mad too lol

[heady frost]

i had to look up what roadmap.sh was lol

preetty cool website actually

im looking at the c++ roadmap

because thats the language im most familiar with

[icy crow]

i sometimes forget that it isn't that widespread

[heady frost]

i say my knowledge cutoff is around here

[heady frost]

i wonder if theres one for lua

becuase im pretty bad with lua

[icy crow]

i know there's one for react

[heady frost]

oh thats cool

[icy crow]

lua is nowhere to be found

[heady frost]

i dont even super like react im probably nowhere near as good as it compared to c++ but i know it okay enough to get shit done

actually going through the roadmap its actually not as big as i wouldve thought

[icy crow]

can we tag this https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/236 as code gen bug

[limpid robin]

Would it be possible to do this?

[heady frost]

yeah for sure

[icy crow]

i think so

[heady frost]

you just need a variable that tracks how many rounds

then a check after the sell card trigger that checks if that variable is above three

[icy crow]

i actually want to make a juice_up effect

[limpid robin]

Soooo something like thiss??

[icy crow]

that makes the joker "dance" (for a lack of a better word) just like invis when it's ready

[icy crow]

looks right

[heady frost]

go for it, its fairly straightforward if you look at the vanilla remade stuff

im gonna fix the combine ranks effect because apparently its a bit broken

[icy crow]

i mean itll be just _prereturn_ juice_up... _prereturn_end_

[icy crow]

ill do it after i finish up the main menu crash

[heady frost]

lkets fucking gooooo

ideally it would be a play animation block, with parameters for the type, but for now you can just have it have 1 type (wiggle) or whatever

[icy crow]

i have no idea of what other animations would be

if you give me a few examples i could try to make them

[heady frost]

yeah i have no idea too, i am guessing it would just be different types of idle animations lol

oh combine ranks is not working because it doesnt generate hook related jokers lol ofc

[ashen prairie]

Ok, I'm gonna be fair
The only reason why I feel like I have to go through this whole poker hand malarky is

1. I want to be able to play with only my Jokers as a special deck, kinda like Familiar or Ortalab
2. Balatro's collection sorts them by... 15!? Why?
   I'm a set maniac, y'see, I like making themed sets that synergize together.
   But with 15!? Not 10, not 20, 15!? I have to either make 3 sets of 5, which is fine, but 5 a set can be too small for some, one set of 10 and a set of 5, which looks awkward, or 15, which is WAAAAAAAY too much for a set!

So now I'm just kinda stuck

[limpid robin]

I think I've made a monster...

[heady frost]

even though i have never experienced your pain i think i understand it lol

[heady frost]

shocked if that actually works in game

try it and see i wanna know now

[limpid robin]

90% chance it crashes

[heady frost]

for sure

[potent hornet]

I’ve done it once, works perfectly fine

[ashen prairie]

I do have an idea for a kind of card from this somehow

Consumers! They eat cards and grow points from that. If you don't feed them, they lose points. I think cards like card makers or converters would be fun too, to basically make a card ecosystem!

[heady frost]

that would be so fire

[ashen prairie]

Should I focus on that idea instead? Sounds fun

[limpid robin]

@heady frost Yep it crahed lol.

[heady frost]

talisman issue

[limpid robin]

Turns out it was a talisman issue, but now the joker just does absolutly nothing lol.

[heady frost]

atleast no crash lmao

[limpid robin]

Yeah, i dont know if there is a way to make this work, but ill try lol

[icy crow]

I think you forgot your force game over effect

[limpid robin]

If that was i thing i would defenitly use it.

Also, I somehow got it to work.

Little underwhelming.

But i can fix that

[heady frost]

i love the random ERROR message

also i fixed the hook related stuff now woo!

[icy crow]

there must be a better way than this

"(((G.consumeables or {}).config or {}).card_limit or 0 - #((G.consumeables or {}).cards or {}))"

[limpid robin]

I could use something like that on something that isnt a joke joker.

[heady frost]

there most likely is

i think you are meant to add them to set ability if i recall

but i might be incorrect

to remove the or 0

but if it works it works

[icy crow]

i see a way with if statements but that would probably require rewriting some things

[heady frost]

i think it would be easier to just add them to set ability with an initial value or something

thats how its meant to be done isnt it

because set ability gets called first

and theres already a generate set ability function

[smoky sorrel]

speaking of set ability

how do i edit a card's enhancement?

[icy crow]

i don't think G.consumeables.config.card_limit would be in the ability

because it's literally consumable slots

[icy crow]

Card:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS["m_steel"])

i believe

[heady frost]

u right

[smoky sorrel]

got it to work

but it is triggering twice, once when the hand goes and another when the card is triggered

weird

[icy crow]

im so stupid
(G.consumeables and G.consumeables.config.card_limit or 0 - #(G.consumeables and G.consumeables.cards or {}))

[icy crow]

hmmm

can i see the code

[smoky sorrel]

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play and not context.blueprint then
                local enhancement_pool = { 'm_gold', 'm_steel', 'm_glass', 'm_wild', 'm_mult', 'm_lucky', 'm_stone', 'm_bonus' }
                          local random_enhancement = pseudorandom_element(enhancement_pool, 'edit_cards_enhancement')
                        context.other_card:set_ability(random_enhancement, nil, true)
                          local seal_pool = {'Gold', 'Red', 'Blue', 'Purple'}
                          local random_seal = pseudorandom_element(seal_pool, 'edit_cards_seal')
                        context.other_card:set_seal(random_seal, true)
                        local edition = poll_edition('edition_random', nil, true, true, 
                            { 'e_polychrome', 'e_holo', 'e_foil' })
                        context.other_card:set_edition(edition, true)
                return {
                    message = "Card Modified!"
                }
        end
    end

it looks right to me, but i have 30min of lua experience

actually just tested again, the seal and edition happens when the hand is played, the enhancement when the card is triggered

[icy crow]

hmm

[smoky sorrel]

but sometimes it triggers again for some reason and changes the enhancement

[icy crow]

i have no idea

[smoky sorrel]

there an old issue on this

issue

[icy crow]

did you try #💻・modding-dev yet?

context.individual is called 8 times?

i printed every context to the console

i marked every individual

[paper ibex]

That joker reminds me of some art I've done

[heady frost]

oh yeah lol i never actually read it

[paper ibex]

Anyways, I made a Joker that is supposed to allow Jacks to count as Kings as a passive effect, but it's not working.

[icy crow]

🙏

also

good moment to fix talisman compat

[heady frost]

i fixed the error with this like an hourot two ago

try refreshing the page

and re-exporting the jokers

[ashen prairie]

@heady frost I cant reach the rest of my variables. Also the edit rule name doesn't do anything.

[heady frost]

it might work

[heady frost]

yeah i havent managed to get arund to that buttons functionality yet haha

and ctrl + scroll wheel down

to zoom out

i want to make it so that dropdowns on the bottom third of the page drop 'up'

[ashen prairie]

thank you so much

[paper ibex]

Wow. Predictive bug response! You can't beat that level of service. 😄 Anyway, will do. I'm at work presently, so I'll let you know in about four hours if that fixed it.

[ashen prairie]

wait.
I'm on laptop.
I don't have a scroll wheel

[heady frost]

you can probably zoom out in your browser settings or do what i do on trackpads and put two fingers down and move them down at the same time

[heady frost]

sorted then, let me know if it works!

[ashen prairie]

that works

[heady frost]

perfect

[heady frost]

im still unsure on what the edit rule should actually do

my original plan that whatever you make it the name, it will add a comment where that 'rule' starts in code, like '-- Rule 1: Start Something'

or whatever

[ashen prairie]

I was thinking it would help as like a note

to know what is what

for example, my little critter im making needs to check when a round is over to check its age

so I'd name that rule 'age'

[heady frost]

yeah i get you, i mean it could be purely visual tbh

might add a bunch of these little features over the next couple of days to get ready for boosters

to hype myself up

until then

marvel rivals

[icy crow]

i think i fixed every gamevar to no longer crash on main menu

and made every gamevar talisman compatible

the second thing was a happy accident (i had talisman on while testing)

[ashen prairie]

can someone tell me why this crashed the moment i turned it on?

I wanted to test my critter hunger system and it just crashed :(

[icy crow]

i wonder

[ashen prairie]

i dont know what that means in forge speak

[icy crow]

these two collide

why do you have them seperate?

it's the same trigger and no condition

[ashen prairie]

ooooh

[icy crow]

this description scares me

[ashen prairie]

I'm very good at jokerforge

basically what this is is

its taking the base chips from the card (example, a 10) and eating them to store in the tummy

tf you mean

UWAGH-

Ok
Ok
Maybe I'm overcomplicating this

[icy crow]

nope

known issue with condition

on discard triggen

[ashen prairie]

oh

so... what now

[icy crow]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/236

[icy crow]

someone'll fix it some day

[ashen prairie]

maybe i should make it only one card you can feed it at a time

[icy crow]

it's 2 am for me so im not committing

[ashen prairie]

imma try and streamline this

I need some way to give the player control on what is and isn't eaten

Discards aren't working, which sucks
So how else do I do it

You need to play cards to... y'know, win.

And eating from there is rude.

OK, first things first. I need to make it so, if i only discard one card, it can tell me what specific card it was.

[woeful bough]

I just realized all of the consumables are done

That was fast lol

[icy crow]

you're a little late

👀

[heady frost]

you are the goat

[heady frost]

goddam thats crazy what

[ashen prairie]

Yeah, I'm hitting that Juju all over your forge my guy

[heady frost]

this is an easy fix ill do it tomorrow

[ashen prairie]

oh shit damn fr?

[icy crow]

im not sure if it is the problem the issue mentioned tho

[heady frost]

if you want i can do it now tbf i just got done with my marvel rivals game

what was the issue mentioned

[icy crow]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/104

[woeful bough]

Tbh I've never played marvel rivals, is it good?

[icy crow]

i fixed total_hand_levels and hand_levels_above_one crashing with the table message

[heady frost]

its great

[heady frost]

oh shit thats beautiful

[icy crow]

you mentioned something about retrigger

s

[heady frost]

i may have been wrong about that tho

i suppose we can fix them as they come along lol

[icy crow]

true

[woeful bough]

Will gamevars functionality be added to consumables?

[icy crow]

i tested every game var one by one so they all should work

[heady frost]

goddam you are insane

[icy crow]

unless i skipped one by accident

[heady frost]

hopefully

[icy crow]

rn im working on the juice_up effect

[heady frost]

i think probably later on tho i wanna rush getting boosters and editions and stuff out

[woeful bough]

I wanted to make an ethereal that levels up every poker hand by triple

[heady frost]

okay im bored of marvel rivals ill make some things

[icy crow]

seeing what the parameters do to be exact

[heady frost]

i think you can already do that tbf

[woeful bough]

How?

[heady frost]

that would be fire

[heady frost]

oh wait

by triple

not by 3

i get you

yeah thats not possible yet lol

[icy crow]

Lights warning idk

[woeful bough]

Also internal variables on consumables would be cool, things like neutron use variables "levels up a random hand by the amount of neutrons used this run"

[icy crow]

crazy high values behave weird

[ashen prairie]

@heady frost im so sorry to bother but uh
is there any way to make a card show the last card discarded

[heady frost]

theres also a wiggle animation i want to implement into the play animation effect, basically just juice up but it repeats

local eval = function() return G.GAME.current_round.hands_played == 0 and not G.RESET_JIGGLES end
            juice_card_until(card, eval, true)

[heady frost]

i do not think so unfortunately

[ashen prairie]

fuck

how do game variables
uh
work

[heady frost]

this wouldnt even need any parameters

[heady frost]

you can replace any value with a game var

[ashen prairie]

imma look through raised fist

[icy crow]

yeah i know about it

i planned to make a parameter to the juice_up effect

[heady frost]

ohhh i get you

like a repeats or not parameter

fire

[ashen prairie]

ah shat

[heady frost]

see you are already one step ahead of me lol

[ashen prairie]

Looks like I gotta do this the caveman's way

[heady frost]

this is typical for joker forge i think

[autumn dove]

is probability fixed

[heady frost]

yes

it was never an issue with probability

just a small bug with loc vars

[autumn dove]

yeah loc vars

hate those loc vars dude

[heady frost]

literally

[icy crow]

then goodmorning pushed a fix which introduced two more bugs

[heady frost]

im making a nice component for confirmation

[icy crow]

loc_vars are fun

[heady frost]

which fix was that

[autumn dove]

what a fucking idiot

[ashen prairie]

damn hes IN THE ROOM

[autumn dove]

wouldnt have happened if it were me honestly

[heady frost]

yeah innit

[autumn dove]

give me the reins coach

[ashen prairie]

"Yeah my dad fucking sucks"

• Said with said dad in the room

[icy crow]

i believe the one with get_probability_vars

[heady frost]

oh yeah

with the extra comma

[woeful bough]

This is my room

[autumn dove]

anyways whats my assignment

[heady frost]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/239

[autumn dove]

i saw this what does it mean

[heady frost]

i didnt do the rest of the title

i just noticed it now

lol

[autumn dove]

i still dont know what tis means

[heady frost]

like the dropdown dropsup

[autumn dove]

who do you think i am the ui guy im really jsut the rulebuilder guy

[heady frost]

like if its opened below a certain point of the screen, the options should appear above the inputdropdown rather than below it

[autumn dove]

what options

[heady frost]

inputdropdown is its own component in /generic

the component can have any options

its like a generic component

[autumn dove]

oh okay

[heady frost]

its used throughout the code its the dropdown you see everywhere

i love making generic components like that

[autumn dove]

what you mean when you open a gameplay tab in the conditionals on the block palette

[heady frost]

what issue

[autumn dove]

what

[heady frost]

ohhh

sorry i misread

[heady frost]

these are the input dropdowns

[autumn dove]

oh those things

[heady frost]

its to prevent stuff like this from happening

so the options appear above

if you get me

[autumn dove]

yeah my bad

[heady frost]

the file is Generic/InputDropdown.tsx

no worries

[autumn dove]

i dont ever make jokers with this site so i had no idea

[heady frost]

this guy

[icy crow]

same

[autumn dove]

dont really even know what this fucking stupid site is for really

[icy crow]

i started only to test the things i added

[heady frost]

yeah honestly just code jokers yourself

[autumn dove]

yeah innit this is so comparable to AI

[heady frost]

might aswell just delete balatro at this point

[ashen prairie]

Ok the discard thing is the issue

I guess I'll just have to wait

[heady frost]

yeah, lemme finish up making this confirm component then ill get that sorted real quick

should be fast

[ashen prairie]

i hope this guy is /j and not /srs

[heady frost]

hes the lead dev lol

im just a nameless grunt

working for him, the supervillain

[autumn dove]

yeah less typing, more working

[ashen prairie]

IT WAS THIS GUY??

I thought YOU were the director!!

[heady frost]

im just a monkey on a typewriter endlessly, hoping that by random luck i push changes that fix bugs

[ashen prairie]

am i being teased with

[heady frost]

thats like bio material

[autumn dove]

clearly its me

[heady frost]

yeah lol hes just piggybacking off of my success

nah hes a good asset to the joker forge empire

nooo

you changed your name

[autumn dove]

nah im just the ui bug fixer

[heady frost]

u do more than that you have gotten good with this shit

[autumn dove]

jokerforge is @heady frost's baby

[ashen prairie]

okay, thank you for being srs with me

[heady frost]

i love all the contributions to joker forge, development has been so fast its unreal

[ashen prairie]

-# so this is why tone tags are so needed in the modern day, huh?

[ashen prairie]

You're literally making the future of balatro

[heady frost]

thats such a kind sentiment

[autumn dove]

development has been so fast taylor's merging pull requests without reviewing the code he's a real one for that

[heady frost]

when i posted on reddit, i got so many nice comments its really motivating

[woeful bough]

/z.

[ashen prairie]

?

[woeful bough]

Joke

I can't do tone indicators cuz commands always open bruh

[smoky sorrel]

@icy crow figured this out

set_edition takes a delayed argument, set it to true and it works

set_seal for some reason doesn't have this

so the seals happen when the hand is played and the rest when the card triggers

[icy crow]

weird

well at least it works

[paper ibex]

QA is fun. I miss doing it. EA is a garbage company, but the work was easy and the office environment was really nice. They laid us all off in one go with no warning and their game had a critical security vuln just a few months later.

[icy crow]

is this block just for adding one variable?

[heady frost]

no way you worked at EA

[heady frost]

i believe so, it makes it so you can add game vars and range related ones

this is why the consumable effects cant have gamevars or range, because none of the effects have this and the index.ts for consumables doesnt look out for it

[heady frost]

idk why i said i believe so

[icy crow]

Never sure enough ig

[paper ibex]

Worked for a company that contracts people to other companies, I didn't work for EA directly.

In fact, that's the only reason I got paid for the last two months of my contract. EA dead-dropped us.

I'm under an NDA, but I feel comfortable shit-talking them and giving vague comments about what I did.

[heady frost]

thats still pretty cool nonetheless

even if ea is a shitty company

[paper ibex]

Yeh.

[heady frost]

i heard gamedev related stuff is really hard to get properly into

[paper ibex]

I was hoping it'd lead to more.

[heady frost]

like for a job

[paper ibex]

It is.

Lot of nepotism, tbh.

[heady frost]

yeah that does not surprise me at all

[paper ibex]

And you need to live in the right place and do favours for the right people.

[heady frost]

yeah i imagine it to be more about who you know than what you know

my dream job is like low-level engine development for some big studio or something like that

ideally for a uk based studio like rockstar

[paper ibex]

It is. The guy I remember best was borderline illiterate and seemed to additionally be ESL. No hate on the latter, even though it's a reasonable expectation that you'd learn in a year. But like... it clicked when I saw that the guy over the project had the same last name.

[heady frost]

yeah literally, its upsetting to see because it makes people feel like they cant properly break into the job they want without some help from some random family member or something lol

i hope when im job searching i dont run into too many issues, im slightly worried for it

but it will be fine i think

[paper ibex]

Pretty much. You're better off starting your own company if you can. But that's hard. I've done it, but it's basically all just on paper with no substance yet. I'm still working hourly wage jobs.

[heady frost]

still in game dev or related field?

[paper ibex]

Frankly? It is pretty bad. The entire online application process is Kafkesque.

[paper ibex]

Only on my own time. I work for Dollar General and a local gas station liquor store atm. Trying to hawk and shill my services when and where I can. But the overlap between the interest and the money is slim.

[heady frost]

the area i am from is one of the poorest areas in my country so theres not a lot of software engineering jobs around me but im praying

[heady frost]

its the eternal rat race it seems

hopefully you just solo dev a banger like localthunk did

[paper ibex]

Yeah same

[heady frost]

or zeekers from lethal company

or like substance one

theres so many little indie game dev millionairs recently

[paper ibex]

Pbbbbt. It's not going well tbh. I've got three projects on hiatus. Two of them are too ambitious for a solo dev, and I'm just kinda hating how the third is coming out

[heady frost]

it only takes one good idea tho lol

i wish i knew game dev honestly

seems super cool

[paper ibex]

It's not hard to get started, it's hard to keep going when it seems hopeless. And if you're trying to do it as a career that's basically always

[heady frost]

i have made a couple of things in godot but i just dont think im too cut out for it lol

i was making a chess clone that allowed you to customise your army before the game started, like totally accurate battle simulator. where you had like a budget and stuff

and there was like a bunch of custom pieces

and i managed to get it working with online play which was cool

but i abandoned the project after @autumn dove told me it was ass

[autumn dove]

listen

[heady frost]

if i never abandoned it then joker forge wouldve never have been created

it all happens for a reason

[woeful bough]

i want to make an indie but i need money to do that lol

*and any knowledge of how to code but im lazy (and adhd doesnt let me do anything long term for more than 2 days if its not entertaining)

[verbal goblet]

You could have just done face cards in the first place lol

[woeful bough]

that might be what it is

[verbal goblet]

Unless it is just SPECIFICALLY that

[paper ibex]

Not necessarily. What are you planning to use the money for?

[crude trail]

I just remembered that, lmao

[woeful bough]

to exist

i mean im not out of high school yet and have minimal coding experience, so my idea is like years from now

[verbal goblet]

Oh yeah, meant to ask everyone in general from the modding community but
Do mod makers really hate JokerForge? Been feeling that vibe yesterday but I dunno

[heady frost]

oooooh i love nice popups

[smoky sorrel]

much better than the browser alert

[heady frost]

i think the majority opinion is that joker forge is good, but i do see some particular guys not liking it

[heady frost]

and they are free to not like it, it is not perfect and never will be, especially when compared to coding mods yourself

but my philosophy is that tools like this only server to enhance modding communities, being a net positive

[verbal goblet]

I mean yeah at the end it's just a mod maker that helps out people with neat (and silly) ideas

[heady frost]

sure more mods will be created, good and bad, but like any modding scene, the good stuff rises to the top regardless of how it was made

[verbal goblet]

But i've had the vibe of people saying "Oh my Lord JokerForge modder? Look at this guyyyyy lmaooooo"

[woeful bough]

the people that dont like it are the people that complain about slop as if mods are a paid thing and not just made out of passion

[heady frost]

i think certain individuals probably feel a little threatened by joker forge too, they have spent a long time getting good with the smods library (which is not super documented) so they feel like they have a sense of pride in that

then some guy comes along and disrupts that with a website

[woeful bough]

this tool actually saved me. i used to draw and come up with joker ideas and never was able to actually make them

so instead of coding i try to get my art to look as good as it can

[heady frost]

yeah, unfortunately elitism is super common in computer science related communities

[paper ibex]

Felt. I feel like I'm always in debt. College is basically a scam.

[heady frost]

ive seen it happen in so many communities

[verbal goblet]

This mod is more of a guide and introduction to modding Balatro, as I can look at the lua files and learn stuff

[heady frost]

lmao im like 80k in debt rn

[woeful bough]

my mom really wants me to go but idk

[heady frost]

yeah ofcourse, i will never argue that joker forge is better than writing the mods yourself. but the people that are the type to code mods themselves were never the same people who would eternally use joker forge

its different use cases for different people

[paper ibex]

In communities of any kind, tbh.

[heady frost]

i just think communities like this (and by extension a lot of modding communities) are quite autistic so people are very set in their ways

[paper ibex]

Is she paying for it?

[woeful bough]

nope

not at all

she specifically mentioned that

[heady frost]

no shade to autistic people btw ofcourse i am diagnosed autistic

[ashen prairie]

Why am i such a tryhard when it comes to placeholders

[heady frost]

do u guys have to pay upfront for college?

[woeful bough]

you only have the right to use illness/disability as an insult when you have it

imo

[paper ibex]

Then you're paying for it andher opinion is irrelevant. If the college will get a degree you feel is worth $50,000 or will get you a job that will pay enough that you can pay $10,000/year then it's worth it. Otherwise it's not.

[woeful bough]

idk havent looked into it to much

[heady frost]

not even insulting autistic people, i love them, its just a fact that autistic people are set in their ways, im the exact same lol

[verbal goblet]

I am at the other side of that spectrum lol

[woeful bough]

temple 8

[woeful bough]

why is the t reversed

[smoky sorrel]

vars are broken 👍

[woeful bough]

the hook goes right

[icy crow]

Not again🙏

[lilac yacht]

+Full House chips, yummers

[woeful bough]

swap them, they might not look right in the description but they might look fine in game

[verbal goblet]

Oh really? Thought it went left lol

[woeful bough]

40x4 chips

[smoky sorrel]

yeah i know, but its still wrong

[icy crow]

Isn't this in game tho

[sour spear]

flushtro 3.0 is out anyone wanna try it out

[woeful bough]

my template card

[smoky sorrel]

odds ones as well

[heady frost]

NOOOO

sounds like a tomorrow fix to me

[sour spear]

ok we should start denying low quality placeholders

[woeful bough]

i mean swap in joker forge

[woeful bough]

yes

[sour spear]

the ones that take 2 seconds to make

[heady frost]

the key is to make so many high quality placeholders so that the low-quality ones are super rare

[sour spear]

yes

[icy crow]

There was a bunch of stock images submitted

[woeful bough]

unless its funny

[sour spear]

if its unfunny and low quality we should burn it in a stake

[heady frost]

i might do a poll of this in modding chat actually

you guys cant vote tho because everyone here is bias

[sour spear]

i use joker forge so i dont have to troubleshoot for 20 minutes on one joker

[lilac yacht]

i like it just because i don't like coding so it makes the part i don't like fun

[sour spear]

and learning the balatro code is time consuming

[icy crow]

I have no idea what you mean

[verbal goblet]

You still will do that most of the time lol

[heady frost]

instead the troubleshooting is on me @icy crow and @autumn dove haha

[sour spear]

yes but its less time
also less crash logs

most of the time

[verbal goblet]

Ah trye

Also I have to remind myself to keep updating my website every time I boot up my laptop because sometimes it goes down to 0.2.0 instead of the current one lol

[icy crow]

Crash logs aren't even that bad

[verbal goblet]

They actually tell you right away what the problem.is lmao

[woeful bough]

plz dont bully me

[sour spear]

joke

[icy crow]

Usually

[sour spear]

r

[verbal goblet]

Apparently my cryptid kept crashing with MoreFluff and it just felt like going on a spiral because I didn't know it was MF

[heady frost]

added instantly

[verbal goblet]

also i still love JF because this idea can be finally made

[heady frost]

i wish the version number meant more than 'hmm, havent updated that in a day or two' lmao

[woeful bough]

i made it better

[verbal goblet]

thats relatable af lol

[icy crow]

After I wake up I'll go to my PC and draw the first thing I can remember from my dream and submit it as a placeholder

[woeful bough]

whenever i make a joker i draw the art first so the placeholders never get used

like

[verbal goblet]

Oh mannnn you and i are so different

[woeful bough]

i didnt have a clue what the Oneshot joker was going to do

but it didnt take long to think of the number 1

[verbal goblet]

I have 11 placeholders rn lol

[woeful bough]

lol

[verbal goblet]

I usually do the joker first, the coding then, and then I remember to do the art for like two jokers and the cycle repeats

[sour spear]

flushtro updated im finally free for a while

[woeful bough]

when next update

on my next update im pushing the number back

so instead of beign V4.5.0

its V0.4.5

[verbal goblet]

oh my lord lmao

oh reminds me to update the version im on

[sour spear]

30 news jokers, 1 new consumable

new*

[woeful bough]

not enough man i already used everything (i havent played it yet)

[sour spear]

its not tested well

so uhhh

[woeful bough]

how do you guys make so many jokers 😭

[verbal goblet]

the current version i was on was on 0.1.7b
now im finally at 0.2.0

[woeful bough]

i gotta stop taking hours to draw one

[verbal goblet]

I cry, i have my friends suggest to me ideas

It kinda doesnt help that i really dont "Draw them", but rather i take stuff from the original jokers and just plasm it there

Of course i still do art but lik

[sour spear]

its just

think
make joker
draw joker sprite (mostly takes less than 5 minutes)
put code
troubleshoot later

and done

[woeful bough]

*except for nothing is worth the joke

toxic drew that

[woeful bough]

less than 5 minutes

[verbal goblet]

this consumable is like the only sprite right now that i have taken the time to actually draw

[sour spear]

my jokers are either an image or just crudely drawn blobs

[woeful bough]

the only one that took me that little time was M

because

newsflash

its the letter M

[sour spear]

m

how jolly

[verbal goblet]

i have

a lot

ac tually fuck the 11 jokers like half of my jokers are placeholders LOL

[sour spear]

mmmmm

place the jolders

[verbal goblet]

Right now the most effort i've put into any joker is either British Museum, Donum Scelerisque, or Mythical Pull

[sour spear]

crazy

[sour spear]

yeah woohooo has the most effort

all the grueling pencil strokes

the line art i had planning

[verbal goblet]

oh yeah i have to do the art for C for Cryptid lmao thanks for unwillingly telling me that

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[woeful bough]

my placeholder spotted

[sour spear]

place

[verbal goblet]

error i assume

[woeful bough]

yes

no

not that error

the one that is half code

[verbal goblet]

oh

Commondoro

[woeful bough]

yea

[paper ibex]

I need people to make the art for my jokers

[woeful bough]

depends on complexity

[verbal goblet]

yeahhh funny thing it was gonna be a totally different joker, but the placeholder just BEGGED for it to be real

So yeah thats how commondoro was born

[woeful bough]

i drew this for https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1290482086247010375

[verbal goblet]

What? All Confusing!

[woeful bough]

-# and by drew i mean i just copied oops into itself a bunch of times, changed the opacity, and hue shifted it

[verbal goblet]

Valid valid

[woeful bough]

called quantum dice

[verbal goblet]

That's how i make mine most of the time

[woeful bough]

i also drew this for said mod

although it wasnt for it

[verbal goblet]

what program do you use to do these?

[woeful bough]

program. HAH!

[paper ibex]

Which in turn depends on the joker. Two of them are going to be fairly easy. One is just Hiker cosplaying as Tim the Enchanter from Monty Python and the Holy Grail and another is gonna be a pixel art rendition of Joe Hawley from the music video of Tally Hall's "Banana Man"

[verbal goblet]

I have to suffer with my fate and use Ibis Paint

[woeful bough]

photopea is free

its genP without the other adobe products

so

not genP

[paper ibex]

Aseprite is free if you build from source.

[verbal goblet]

I mean i could but its a website and i dont really get well with them

[woeful bough]

as long as you have decent internet it runs fine

[verbal goblet]

well there's the problem

lol

[woeful bough]

hey! piracy is not okay! (i just referenced genP)

oh

im lucky i was to lazy to learn adobe's stuff!

[verbal goblet]

I'll stick with Ibis for now but ill look into PhotoPea sometime

[woeful bough]

there is also krita

[verbal goblet]

oh yeah i do have krita

right now

[woeful bough]

a lot of popular artists use it

[verbal goblet]

but im decently new to computer art lol

[woeful bough]

i use my mouse lol

[verbal goblet]

Also i wonder, is there any placeholder art for the vanilla legendaries?

fuck not placeholder i mean template

[woeful bough]

wdym

i usually just copy perkeo, remove the overlay, and then copy its baseplate if thats what you mean

[verbal goblet]

I've been searching for god knows where any picture from legendaries that isnt either all 5 cards together or just the joker sticked to it

Something like Canio

[woeful bough]

here go

[sour spear]

libresprite

i dont even use the sprite the legendaries use

omg i hate my internet

[paper ibex]

Lol. It isn't even piracy if they allow it.

[woeful bough]

GenP is banned

Either way

The philosophy is if buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing

[paper ibex]

Eh, yeah.

[woeful bough]

*or if the game costs over 175$ with dlc after 10 years (black ops 1)

[paper ibex]

Even when I have pirated things it's mostly in situations where I can't afford the thing and if I like it I buy it later. There are only two games I played for free that I refuse to buy. Undertale and Dwarf Fortress. The latter is because when I played it, it was free for everyone and Kitfox taking over the publishing has been a travesty.

[woeful bough]

I pirated both balatro and ultrakill and ended up buying them because I genuinely wanted to support the devs

[paper ibex]

Right, same.

[woeful bough]

And mods require steam (for ultrakill)

[paper ibex]

Haven't tried Ultrakill.

[woeful bough]

Niche

If dooms considered fast paced then ultrakill is mach 10

[paper ibex]

I see.

I mostly can't play games like that. My reflexes aren't good under pressure and I can't do prolonged adrenaline for health reasons.

[woeful bough]

I like so many genres lol

Ultrakill and balatro are polar opposites and their top 5

[spring crystal]

hello i need help with something

so basically what I'm looking for is a function that will level up the most played poker hand after a boss blind is defeated

and i already found the trigger and the effect for it

but i can't find the part of the effect for the most played poker hand

[viral wraith]

joker forge keeps doing this when I try to make my card add chips and mult for some reason. Maybe it does it for other things too since that's all I've tried doing. I lose the progress on the rule as well since i have to reload

Ok actually I think it has to do with making scoring a range

[woeful bough]

copy obelisk

[teal ibex]

hello

are custom boss blinds something possible for the future?

[sour spear]

probably

[sour spear]

omg is the textures fucked

can someone download the mod to see if the textures are that

[crude trail]

The textures are not what they should be

[sour spear]

ill fix it later

because of this internet

i cant even type any fucking thing

[verbal goblet]

What are we thinking about my idea for Prescription Label?

[sour spear]

ok i fixed all the joker's texture not being in the right places

[verbal goblet]

If i wanted to make a consumable that removed 5 dollars for every joker owned, would this be the correct way to do it?

[wild pier]

yes

[verbal goblet]

Awesome! Thanks for letting me know

[sour spear]

if rented was a consumable

[verbal goblet]

It may have crashed my game lol

[woeful bough]

game variables do not work with consumables currently

[verbal goblet]

I think i found the problem but maybe not

I may be severely wrong, but it may be because GAMEVAR is followed by a : and not a . causing the game to crash
but now when i did that i got another crash due to the code "expecting { at line 5"

Im at line 5 wdymit needs a {

[still mirage]

i thought probabilities were fixed? the game crashes even if i just hover over the joker to read it's description weirdly enough lol

its just this

[wild pier]

imagine this but with joker and its ^ mult

[woeful bough]

Update your steammodded version

[oblique sail]

Ive looked through some of the jokers in reforged, I cant see any chances in the code itsself

Business card is fine

But 8 ball, gros Michel, halucination and space joker need fixing

[wild pier]

new joker idea

[lapis mauve]

i think i have :3 syndrome

[harsh forge]

defo my weakest art so far but we roll with it

[lapis mauve]

i like it

very nice

[harsh forge]

thanks!

[wild pier]

BIG

rate my jokerforge/json/abc

[icy crow]

It's a JSON tho

It's not a media file tho

[wild pier]

DUDE THE FUCK

[crude trail]

BLOB IS LIFE

[alpine elk]

Do jokerforge files also have sprites?

[heady frost]

yeah they are base64 encoded strings

[heady frost]

this has been a really niche bug for a good while and I can't replicate it so I can't fix it

[alpine elk]

Nice

[harsh forge]

I know a Joker like this probably exists elsewhere but I just love the art for it

[floral hearth]

common????

holy fuck

[harsh forge]

Change it?

I balanced it to only add x0.25 mult

[floral hearth]

ok

thats alot more sane lmao

yeah thats good

[harsh forge]

awesome

[wild pier]

now im doing the circles on counted weighted blocks thanks for the idea

[earnest wraith]

does anyone know how i can make a joker, that creates another joker when sold, that also works on max joker slots?

kinda like invisible joker

[sour spear]

perfect

[sour spear]

nope

[wild pier]

nope but you can make it add a joker slot before the joker is added

made a new joker idea

[sour spear]

we got these two

oops i forgot to make pride flag appear in the shop

wait im just blind

[lapis mauve]

is that a thing now?

[icy crow]

will be

[lapis mauve]

neat

[icy crow]

it's the animation that invis plays

i'm trying to make it as customizable as possible

[lapis mauve]

looks good

what are the other modes

[icy crow]

constant

[lapis mauve]

nice

oh and btw goodmorning, i feel like we should have an option to disable the default messages

[icy crow]

im considering what i will do for scored cards

[sour spear]

wowzers

can we toggle it

[lapis mauve]

its an additional effect

it's optional if you want it or not

[icy crow]

constant just makes it like this untill game decides to reset them

[lapis mauve]

at least i think so

[sour spear]

can we toggle it 🏃

[icy crow]

wdym "toggle it"

[sour spear]

like disable the anim

[icy crow]

i could make a parameter "reset when variable is true"

[lapis mauve]

just like

add it to an if

and maybe add a reset block

but thats it

[heady frost]

this is not needed because you just add a condition for a variable

[lapis mauve]

btw

what about stuff like

+1 booster slot

etc etc

like the vouchers

[floral hearth]

so what your saying is to be inclusive i have to play straight flushes in poker? sick ill start doing that

[lapis mauve]

ok wait what does this do

does "when a card is bought" only work for cards

or anything in shop

cause if it doesnt that would be a nice addition

(definitely not so i can make my super epic joker 💔)

[lapis mauve]

oh i see

[icy crow]

Example on this would be oops all 6's

detect probability condition is for checking what chance you're modifying

so for example this would make only wheel of fortune more likely

[wild pier]

oh wait fuck yeah

[icy crow]

this effect is fun

[wild pier]

wait it stacks?

[wild pier]

does it stack or is there a parameter to how much juice

[icy crow]

^