Joker Forge - Create Balatro Mods Visually and Export the Lua Files (WIP)

[heady frost]

maybe, but they also have different sound effects and particle effects with them

[lapis mauve]

Really?

I don’t see any difference tbh

[heady frost]

yeah like when they are used and stuff I'm pretty sure

I swear I'm not going insane lol

ohhhh you mean for the shader for consumables sets

[lapis mauve]

Mhm

[heady frost]

yeah idk the difference except I think spectrals may be shinier than planets

but I could be wrong idk

[lapis mauve]

Probably just color difference

I dont think planets have shine anyway

[heady frost]

today I wanna add a bunch of new conditions and effects to the consumables and also make it so it comes up with your consumables in the joker editor

[hidden oriole]

and custom rarities too?

[nimble island]

there already are

oh you mean for consumables

[heady frost]

yes

[hidden oriole]

wining

[lapis mauve]

Consumables have rarities?

[elfin nest]

Now they will ig :D

I think

It's like

The soul for example

Where it's rarer

Than the rest

[lapis mauve]

Oh

Thats weights

[steel steeple]

will there be an update that allows you to tell a joker to just perform calculations within actions that set numbers?
example: I used joker forge as a template to create a scaling PowerAnte joker, but I had to go in and edit the code myself, rather than just setting it up in joker forge. while going in and editing the code was easy, it was still time consuming compared to simply making a plus or minus ante joker

what im trying to say is

it should just allow you to set game variables and joker variables to mathematical expressions using internal joker variables, game variables, etc

which would make my PowerAnte example as simple as typing $current_ante ^ $powAnte into the Set Ante Level action, and then incremement powAnte in the next action

[heady frost]

oh I get what you mean

to do something like that it would require some big changes to the code generation, would be cool definitely but that's something that will be implemented once I have a basic version of all the major features

[steel steeple]

oki :3c

[heady frost]

I think they meant allowing the create joker effect allow you to select your own custom rarity

[sour spear]

when can we make jokers give itself or other jokers editions

[heady frost]

probably not until more consumables stuff has been done ngl

[slate glen]

@heady frost my latest export has seemingly randomized the images of my jokers

could be something to do with a change in the order of my collection

previously they were ordered by creation date, now they are ordered alphabetically

[lapis mauve]

Did you upload the files in 1x scale

And if so do you have pixel smoothing on?

Did that for me too, apparently the 1x scale is just jumbled up

[wild pier]

wait are mine jumbled

nope

[lapis mauve]

Not sure, but it did for me last time i checked

Though that was a while ago

[sour spear]

can i replace the shiny question mark i submitted as a placeholder with this, i passed 60 jokers in my mod

[slate glen]

reverting my creation of a custom rarity has returned it to normal

not sure what the correlation is there

[nimble island]

Please there are too many question marks

[wild pier]

play sound and replace bg music would be fire

im begging..

[heady frost]

after other functionality is done, doing this without other things like enhancements, editions, decks, etc. would be unwise

you are better off doing it yourself for now unfortunately

[wild pier]

okoolio

[heady frost]

this has been an issue for a while and for the life of me i cant replicate it because 99% of the time its all good

but you might be right, it might be due to reordering stuff in the pages

i will have a look at it soon because its annoying, just adding more stuff to cosumables now

added the create consumable effect for consumables

will look into changing up the ui so that you can create custom consumables and custom rarity jokers now

will probably take a little while tho

[nimble island]

so like fool

[heady frost]

not fool, that will be its own effect most likely

for consumables like temperance or the high priestess

[nimble island]

oh

[hidden oriole]

can it create custom with different editions

[heady dock]

last used planet/tarot is its own variable so thats different

[lapis mauve]

what about creating jokers

[woeful bough]

I just woke up and read that in as a much different word

[hidden oriole]

shit happens

[pearl path]

This tempts me for greater ambitions.

nevermind it already came out

[icy crow]

It was 3 days ago

Ofc it came out

You underestimate the development speed here

[pearl path]

Sorry, I'm used to programmers who wallow in months of silence after an announcement to declare a release. (Unrelated to this community)

I must applaud the efforts of the programmers here.

[woeful bough]

is there not an option for custom consumable sets

[lapis mauve]

there is

at the bottom

[woeful bough]

oh okay

[rain mason]

spectrals are slightly shinier, they do use different shaders iirc

[lapis mauve]

iirc the only shine shaders in the code are negative_shine and voucher

[heady frost]

announcements come out mere minutes before they get released here

[pearl path]

Good lord.

[heady frost]

i have a fleet of programmers working on joker forge day and night to release updates before you can even think of what the update is (i dont)

[woeful bough]

if i dont have the conditions for cards selected will it just work on every card held in hand?

[heady frost]

it will work no matter how many cards selected

[lapis mauve]

wait are there multiple devs?

[heady frost]

like if you select 5 it will change all 5

[woeful bough]

trying to do this

[heady frost]

no its just me lol

[lapis mauve]

dang

[heady frost]

wont be possible to do unfortunately right now, high priority though because the stuff for destroying consumables is already there so come back in a day or two and it will probably be there

[woeful bough]

ill just make it up to 10 cards lol

makeshift

[heady frost]

im currently working on a system where the custom consumables, consumable sets, and rarities are all ready to be used inside of other effects

so you can finally create a joker that creates your custom consumables

and so on

[woeful bough]

nice

[woeful bough]

vice versa aswell?

[heady frost]

yes, but that should be easier because the create joker effect on consumables will just need a key input

eventually i wanna overhaul this so it brings up a menu and you just select the joker instead but for now the key system works lol

[pearl path]

I do hate to be rude, but would it be possible to have a consumable usage trigger restricted to one consumable type? (For context, I am aiming to make a joker that gains 50 chips every time a tarot card is used.)

[woeful bough]

you can

already do that

[pearl path]

How is it done?

[woeful bough]

my discord is tweajing hold on

[heady frost]

not being rude at all, i welcome all suggestions and whatnot

i think there is already a consumable type condition tho

[pearl path]

Ah, I see it now, I do apologise for my blindness.

[heady frost]

working on the system to use your own custom created consumables, consumable sets, and rarities from within your effects. this might take a couple of days because it is more complex than i originally thought, ive got them to display dynamically, but the code generation is a big hassle so sorry if theres no/little updates over the next couple of days whilst i sort this out

[heady frost]

Joker Forge - Create Balatro Mods Visually and Export the Lua Files (WIP)

[slow hill]

I was wondering, if you were to add custom editions, would you intergrate them like the rarities?

[heady frost]

definitely

with this new system im making for the frontend, it will all be sorted and every effect will have your custom made stuff there too

this goes for poker hands, seals, enhancements, all that good stuff

i also want to get rid of the separate tab for rarities and have it at the bottom like the consumables page has it but thats a job for after this lol

for a rough time frame of when i will get started with enhancements, editions, and seals, at most two weeks. consumables need way more polish until then

[slow hill]

absolute cinema

How can I code it without using joker forge?

basically in the normal-balatro-modding way

[woeful bough]

like how do you code in lua or how do you edit the files?

[slow hill]

How would I structure the flies and code it in lua

[woeful bough]

open the main.lua

of the mod

[slow hill]

cause the joker forge has a file for rarities but a folder for consumables

bet yeah go on

[woeful bough]

you can open any lua file and edit the code from there?

[slow hill]

I mean

look i'll show

like this I mean

[woeful bough]

yea

open them

and you can change them

[slow hill]

I know

I can code T_T

[woeful bough]

...then what are you asking?

[slow hill]

just how can I make a custom edition?

[heady dock]

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/src/editions.lua take a look at this

could help maybe

[slow hill]

cheers

[woeful bough]

the shader thing works right?

[heady frost]

yeah it should do, its applying the spectral shader there

also fire art

[woeful bough]

the one on the left is cooked

the color palette is still there and it says temp on the bottom 😭 idk how i didnt notice that

[slow hill]

oh thats tuff

Y'all know the issue with this?

and this is how I'm importing it

[heady dock]

you could probably find better help in #💻・modding-dev tbh

[woeful bough]

i dont see the shine?

this is what it looks like in photopea

[heady dock]

well the shader is only applied in game, its not part of the image

[woeful bough]

ik

its not there

[heady dock]

hm yeah

[slow hill]

basically just now i swiped some stuff from this, made it into my own mod and got an error

this error

[heady dock]

i dont know jack shit about making editions

ask in #💻・modding-dev ig

[slow hill]

neither do i lol

[slow hill]

k

[exotic pasture]

the forcetrigger in question

and also color cards

[heady dock]

cant wait for cryptlib to become a seperate thing so we can get support for it here

will be peak

[heady frost]

oh shit you may be right, from my perspective it seems to be working tho, check if its your sets.lua it has the "spectral" edition

[ashen prairie]

Ideas for the devs on Consumables (Based on mods)

Usage

• While in Hand
• Selected Joker
  (To make things like the Stands from Cardsauce)

Conditions

• Specific Rank
• Specific Suit
• Specific Enhancement
• Specific Edition
• Specific Seal
• Specific Joker

Effects

• Add Hands
• Add Discards
• Add Hand Size
• Give Consumable
• Give Joker
• Destroy Random Joker
• Destroy Selected Joker
• Give Tag
• Add Playing Card

The idea is to make consumables like one-use jokers. Which are... kinda what they are in reality
I hope this isn't too much on you, Mr. Morning ^^"

[heady frost]

thank you, that is a great list i appreciate it

i will be adding MANY more stuff to consumables after i make it so you can select them in other parts of jokerforge

and then after ive made a bunch of them, i need to update the vanilla reforged page to have sections

[woeful bough]

Will the selecting them in other things be available today?

[ashen prairie]

Oh! One last idea!
"Add Sticker"

[heady frost]

probably not because its a big rework, maybe tomorrow or the day after

[whole gust]

"Prevents Death" still shows "Saved by Mr. Bones"
-# making a custom message would be nice

[nimble island]

all mods do that

even like cryptid

[woeful bough]

yea

[ashen prairie]

Until the consumable expansion is done, should I make my consumables as Jokers to get an idea of how they'd work?

[woeful bough]

What are your ideas for them?

[ashen prairie]

What I'm gonna do is make these Joker versions always have "When this is sold"

[woeful bough]

The main thing i want is to do "_______ to all cards in hand"

So like a condition that just says "all cards"

[oblique egret]

2 are not activating scholar. is something wrong here?

selecting aces and 2s together also isn't making "of a kind" hands

[woeful bough]

Swap it

Idk

[oblique egret]

well aces are not activating wee so its not that

[whole gust]

ahh

[ashen prairie]

Dang, doesn't show custom rarity

[heady frost]

yeah its broken at the moment if you cant tell by the 'epic' rarity. working on a proper system to integrate everything that will be out very shortly (in the next day or two)

[heady frost]

this is possible to do but would require something more complex than just a few lines of code changed. it will probably be added much later in development

[ashen prairie]

Thank you! I will be using it until you get all of your consumable stuff done :3

[nimble island]

Would it work if I made a custom epic rarity

[ashen prairie]

An example of my consumable joker test

[keen glade]

I noticed the Oops! All 6s copy uses a special effect that just doubles probability, though with the newer probability system from steamodded you can easily change the numerator and denominator with a simple calculate function as well as check if a probability succeeds or fails (there's also the ability to edit the probability of certain cards an example below) calculate = function(self, card, context) if context.mod_probability and context.trigger_obj and context.trigger_obj.config and context.trigger_obj.config.center and SMODS.has_enhancement(context.trigger_obj, "m_glass") then return { numerator = context.numerator + 1, denominator = context.denominator + 1 } end end (The example increases the numerator and denominator of just glass cards, if you need more examples i have quite a few in the newest update of https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1226203695365099681)

[exotic quartz]

does consumable type work? this one doesn't seem to do anything

[sour spear]

im always wondering that

[woeful bough]

I believe he knows this but is working on consumables atm

[heady frost]

yeah, new probability hasnt been properly integrated yet

[heady frost]

haha maybe, go for ti

the epic was a test for custom rarity thats hardcoded into ui selection that i forgot to remove

it has already been removed in my build lol

[woeful bough]

Your essentialy adding gamevars for custom rarities and consumables sets, right?

[heady frost]

basically but it will just be alongside your actual sets and rarities in the dropdown

[woeful bough]

very useful

[sour spear]

designed some placeholder images

[woeful bough]

why did this crash the game?

[ashen prairie]

Feels so cool to see it up there. Hold on, I'll try to show you what it does.

The style of these little prototype "consumables" is honestly kind of like how it used to work in older builds of Balatro, where consumables and jokers stayed on the same section

[sour spear]

my old consumable was just judgement but you can spawn one rarity

[brave dome]

first one would go so crazy on edward robinson build

[sour spear]

if only create joker was in consumables

[woeful bough]

He said he's adding custom rarities to them

And adding custom consumables to jokerz

A lot of these cards aren't possible yet (by a lot I mean shimmer)

[woeful bough]

"Why are you all booing, im right!"

Yoooo I found the language the boss blinds come from

[ashen prairie]

It was showing up CRAZY lots, so remember to make your rarity weights real low, guys

[exotic quartz]

is there a way to make the message box display variables? #1# doesn't seem to work, and message colors don't change either

[sour spear]

i think theres a bug with the edit triggered card with changing rank and suit idk

[uneven hedge]

making a joker which gains the chip and mult bonus from every planet card used and for some reason it only gets the bonuses from pluto, other planet cards don't do anything

[sour spear]

mmmm

[frosty isle]

was updating my jokers couldnt save one of them because of the description which is weird.

Copies the leftmost Joker's ability[s] allows debt of up to {C:money}$20{}

nvm i found my issue i just cant read lmao

[wild pier]

no.

[sour spear]

yes

[wild pier]

what the fuck

[hidden oriole]

can i make 2 jokers retrigger each other endlesly

[wild pier]

always active trigger and go to jokers and put both left and right

but make it spawn itself when a card is scored

[hidden oriole]

?

[wild pier]

lemme make a example

[hidden oriole]

im just really stuid with all that varialbes and other stuff

[hidden oriole]

balatro crash machine

[hidden oriole]

im cpmplete idiot because it did nothing?

[wild pier]

oh yesh

yeah supposed to add mult

or money

or chips

or whatever

[hidden oriole]

alright never mind im just stupid

[sour spear]

v2 update of 🚽tro is out

[ashen prairie]

I can't wait for something like a deck creator.
Then I could set it to only spawn certain rarities,
Ban cards I don't want,
And essentially make my own set of Jonklers specifically for that deck
And make the dumb little bootleg physical version of Balatro I wanna make, IN balatro!

But of course, that's for maybe a month or two's time.
Being a dev is hard, long work.
Rushing a dev only makes the finished product either need to be worked on for longer, or made a lot worse.
We'll all get so many fun toys to play with eventually. -w-

[errant mason]

wouldn't recommend tho

[lapis mauve]

can we get individual weights for consumables

also i dont think the dropdown of seals and stuff need explanations

its just unnecesary clutter since people can pretty easily look it up

[heady frost]

i wanted to do this because it would be cool, however to my knowledge all consumables within a set are weighted the same, that sets weight

anyways im properly awake now

i wanna go ham today

[lapis mauve]

what about soul 🤔

also an easy thing to have is for consumables to create jokers

maybe like

tables for items

so you can choose a table of for example jokers, tarots and spectrals all in one

[heady frost]

soul is treat differently in the code from what i can tell. it is basically a boolean that makes it soul and therefore has a lower weight

i will probably add something like that when i get around to booster packs

because i will have to deal with a lot of weighting then

[lapis mauve]

it is?

iirc its just a variable thingy

or well

last time i made a mod it was

lemme check

[heady frost]

it might not be I'm still quite noobish so you might be correct

[lapis mauve]

me too haha

pools would be nice to have though

yeah

soul_rate

loved this mod

[crude trail]

KRIS GET THE BANANA

[heady frost]

fire art

[lapis mauve]

Didnt make it lol

One of my friends did

And i offered to make it an actual mod

[heady frost]

so fire nonetheless

[sour spear]

you should check this out

[heady frost]

oh shit yeah

i will add them today after i finish up this new system

but remind me later on if i dont cos i might forget

[lapis mauve]

Also probably change the consumable placeholders to new ones

Cuz ones that look like jokers dont fit lol

[heady frost]

yeah for sure, will do that in a day or two tho because i wanna crank out a billion more consumables effect and conditions first lol

and the way i wanna do the placeholders for consumables is similar to how i did it for jokers

it automatically takes placeholders from this file

and the credits are just a list of credits correlated to the placeholder number

cool little system

tbh if you guys want you can fork the repo and just add whatever you want to be added as a placeholder and make a pr lol

[lapis mauve]

tbh the placeholder art bothers me

not that it's bad

just really inconsistent

[heady frost]

i think its fun because its a bunch of different styles from across the community

[lapis mauve]

yeah

[heady frost]

its the type of thing that gets replaced quickly anyways

[lapis mauve]

it is, but my autistic brain hates it for some reason

[wild pier]

hyper realistic images

[lapis mauve]

aight bet

[wild pier]

okay heres my place holde

[heady dock]

orange?

also idk but this doesnt look 71 x 95

[wild pier]

its x2

[lapis mauve]

bana

[wild pier]

share this in modding chat

please

i wanna see their reactions

[lapis mauve]

2x version

[heady dock]

why is 2x smaller 😭

[lapis mauve]

its default 2x size

[wild pier]

making a new placeholder

forgot that i had rhis

[wild pier]

wait i want the background

no coca cola

[lapis mauve]

#1224362333208444989 message

ok this is starting to get annoying

please at least make a setting that clicking outside the properties box doesnt close it

[heady frost]

i will change it after i finish this

im still working on the new system so you can select custom stuff in parameters

im almost done, create joker seems to work. just working on consumables stuff

will probably come out today

[lapis mauve]

also can i ask whats broken about level up

i'm assuming its like

the random option?

[wild pier]

can this be a plzceholder

[lapis mauve]

why does it have those edges

and its like

[sour spear]

these pixels are so smooth

[lapis mauve]

blurry for some reason

[sour spear]

i dont like it smooth i want it crunchy

[heady frost]

it does kinda work, its just a bit buggy lol

[wild pier]

i used this

[heady frost]

its mostly a reminder for me to go fix it but it needs special logic compared to everything else

[lapis mauve]

use this

sometimes it becomes blurry for some reason

[lapis mauve]

wuh

click on the image, click on it again to zoom in and then copy

[lapis mauve]

blurry my behated 💔

wait what does change poker hand variable do

[heady dock]

to do list

[lapis mauve]

huh

[heady dock]

it changes a poker hand variable

[lapis mauve]

ohh

[heady dock]

like to do list does at the end of round

[lapis mauve]

i need jokers for my "silly :3" rarity help

[lilac yacht]

Cat: goes :3 after every hand

[lapis mauve]

its gonna be peak

[heady dock]

just make them all silly cat images

[lapis mauve]

i might

[lapis mauve]

ok but what would the use of that be

[wild pier]

x3 mult.

[lapis mauve]

x1 mult for every :3

and its just really broken

[heady dock]

divided by 3 mult

because its :3 (divided by 3)

[lapis mauve]

what about negative :3 mult

so x3 basically

[wild pier]

how about..

[heady dock]

wdym by negative :3

[wild pier]

x3 mult every common joker

[lapis mauve]

x3 mult for every silly :3 joker

[wild pier]

good

coolio

[heady frost]

big update to the code generation, now you should be able to set your parameter values to custom things you made elsewhere!

let me know if anyone has any troubles with this, i expect some issues im ngl lol

i will get on with bug fixing and little improvements for the rest of the day

[wild pier]

oh my freaklinks..

[ashen prairie]

O<O

Oh btw, Mr. Morning, do you know what a rank variable does?
Since enhancements don't exist yet, I'm making a one-way lock on a specific rank when the card is bought
That specific rank it chose now acts as the "enhancement"

[heady frost]

im pretty sure you can just do "card rank" condition

card rank variable is not a variable specific to a card

its a type of variable a joker can use

look at the mail-in-rebate example to see how its used

[hidden oriole]

it’s all banana

[undone kraken]

@heady frost Oh man I've been using this for a few days already and I just want to say that this is an incredible tool to get started on things.

By any chance could we get also get an option to just write and store custom code (as generated in the lua file) for a card instead of using the editor? I found that the tool is incredibly useful even for just organising your custom joker collection.

Love it!

[heady frost]

thats a great idea, i did originally have a plan so that you can see the generated code as you are moving blocks around, allowing you to make changes to it as you do stuff, but due to the constraints i have with it being a website, something like that does not seem feasible unfortunately

it is already quite a heavy site and doing that will decrease performance massively, its a shame that it isnt a desktop app because that would be very feasible lol

[undone kraken]

Awesome! Looking forward to it! ^^

[lapis mauve]

Why not make it one

[ashen prairie]

My jerryrigged "enhancement" card is tested!

[heady frost]

im not as experienced in making desktop apps as i am websites, there are things like tauri that simplify the process but development from here on out would not be as fast and porting it over to be a desktop app now would take weeks of work. also i dont like the idea of people having to download stuff just to run it, with it being a website, its much more accessible

[heady frost]

looking fire, you really seem to be pushing joker forge to its limits haha

okay im gonna add a couple more consumable effects

next up is the generic ones like handsize, discards, hands, stuff like that

[ashen prairie]

I'm gonna make a more fluid "consumable" joker next

Polish my old build of it

[silent rock]

would it be possible to just make the website into an electon app, idk how difficult this is but it seems like the easiest solution

[heady frost]

it would be an easy solution and i might look into it more when joker forge gets more advanced that it being a website is struggling more

until then, its just optimisation

[silent rock]

makes sense

[heady frost]

and ive never worked with electron apps so it might be fun to learn

[hidden oriole]

jokerkess run

[sour spear]

the edit triggered card change suit and rank is kinda broken

[heady frost]

is it not changing them at all?

[sour spear]

crashed

[heady frost]

i will take a look after i finish these consumable effects

[wild pier]

what feature do you have planned next

like after you finish all the consumable things

whats after consumables that you have planned

[heady frost]

boosters (should be quick, only a couple of days) then editions, enhancements, and seals

[wild pier]

im gonna check back on joker forge after a week so i can see the new stuff

[heady frost]

hopefully by then consumables will be in a much nicer place

i reckon i will stay grinding consumables for another week or two then boosters for a few days, then editions and enhancements and whatever for the next few weeks

[somber oar]

So joker forge will be able to be used in theory for an entire mod?

[heady frost]

should be fixed

[heady frost]

heres hoping 🤞

[somber oar]

Fire! Really good for people like me who don't wanna learn how to code.

[ashen prairie]

Yum!

[heady frost]

just added the edit hand size, hands, and discards effect to consumables

[heady frost]

what is the consumable effect you need to make this an actual consumable

[ashen prairie]

Technically a consumable is just a one-use joker

[wild pier]

wait yall rate my epic mod json [not finished yet]

[ashen prairie]

• Consumables: One-Use Jokers
• Enhancements: On-Score Joker, but on that card specifically
  Fuck it, even a PACK is technically a joker, because jokers can make OTHER jokers
  No idea if tags fit into that but hey who cares? You get the jist!
  You can do a LOT if you open your brain ;)

[heady frost]

technically life itself is a consumable cos you only get one and then it goes away

[ashen prairie]

Me opening another Life Pack to get a new Life (it also sucks with my current build, fuck)

[heady frost]

added two new effects for consumables, convert all cards to suit/rank effects

[hidden oriole]

will there be an effect to create consumable when this consumable is used

[wild pier]

plalala

talala

[heady dock]

there already is

[lapis mauve]

omg thats my art

creechie's girl deck 🔥

[woeful bough]

life is a joker because we all do unique things

[sour spear]

mmmm

[woeful bough]

tea pot

[woeful bough]

better worded description "when a number card is played, destroy it and create an ace of random suit. Gains X1 mult per ace gained this way."

[sour spear]

uh yeah i fixed up the description before updating the mod

its out now if you havent seen

currently the only way to get mythic is with the pls mythic rare card

[woeful bough]

lol

how good do you want mythics to be?

[wild pier]

pea tot

[delicate cave]

Gives +50 chips or
+5 mult
Is there anyway that I can make my joker have this ability

[sour spear]

unbalanced

[woeful bough]

X1 isnt enough 😈

if were talking cryptid

itd be like

X5

[wild pier]

idk ask sir morning

[sour spear]

i dont think so

[wild pier]

ping him or smth

hes usually online

[woeful bough]

isnt it just random chance

[wild pier]

he’d probably add it to his list

[wild pier]

yea

[woeful bough]

lol

[delicate cave]

@heady frost

[nimble island]

Cokelock did you get the profile picture from geometry dash

[woeful bough]

not from

but my character is based off of my icon, yes

its my favorite game of all time

[heady frost]

yes

[delicate cave]

How

[heady frost]

2 random chance groups

with the effects inside

[delicate cave]

Ok thanks

[hidden oriole]

but can it spawn custom consumables

[heady dock]

not yet

pretty sure thats being worked on right now though

[woeful bough]

its out

[heady dock]

peak

[woeful bough]

did shaders on consumables get fixed?

[nimble island]

can someone ping me when I can recreate soul but with my own rarity

[woeful bough]

😦

[spark patio]

You gotta add the consumable type if thats what you're looking for

[woeful bough]

...I did

[heady frost]

thats strange

oh wait

i think i forgot to update that condition lol

give me a sec it should be quick

[wild pier]

shop slots on always active when

[heady frost]

when consumables are in a better state

[heady frost]

should be fixed now, lmk if it works

[wild pier]

dude whered rarities go

most of mine are unknown now

example

[woeful bough]

They're still there you just gotta change them back

[wild pier]

guh

[autumn dove]

they're in the jokers page

at the bottom there's another tab

[wild pier]

oh

[lapis mauve]

nice

[silent rock]

btw the text for the consumable sets customisation is wrong its not collection rows and collumns, each number in that table is the length of the next row, and you can have more than two

aka 4 5 would give 1 row with 4 cards and 1 row with 5 cards

[lapis mauve]

wuh

[silent rock]

vs 4 rows each with 5 cards which would be the case if there were 4 rows and 5 columns

the left one is 4 rows and 5 columns and the right one is what it actually looks like ingame

with 2 rows

[lapis mauve]

oh

so its just row 1 and row 2 amount

[silent rock]

yes

and you can have more than 2 rows

[lapis mauve]

how 🤔

[silent rock]

but jokerforge doesnt support that

[lapis mauve]

dang

[silent rock]

instead of 2 elements in the table you just

put more than 2

im pretty sure you could only put 1 to only have 1 row

you can

[icy crow]

aaahhhhh

[elfin nest]

Isn't it possible to make a condition to check for custom rarities

[woeful bough]

Convert all cards to specific/random enhancement? (and editions and seals) basically more "all cards in hand" effects

idk why this keeps crashing the game. its just this consumable

[marsh shoal]

Do you know why they chose to use the skull for their tag?

[woeful bough]

we have different tags but idk

[marsh shoal]

The Geometry Dash server has multiple tags?

[woeful bough]

ig

it doesnt say your part of the GD server

[marsh shoal]

I'm not

I just had noticed that the Geometry Dash tag looks fairly similar

[exotic quartz]

@heady frost would you consider adding a highlight around the and/or part of conditions? I only just now found out about it, so making it more visible may make it more intuitive

[olive agate]

i wish there was a condition for jokers about a specific custom consumable

[woeful bough]

There is?

Consumable tpye/Consumable held has custom sets

And you can specify which specific card from the set you want

[olive agate]

oh ok

didnt know actually

[olive agate]

is there a way fix this?

[olive agate]

@woeful bough (had to ping, sorry)

[woeful bough]

Idk same thing happened to me

It fails to load one consumables for some reason

[woeful bough]

Did you use a gamevar for it?

[olive agate]

no i just forgot to refresh the page

[lilac yacht]

still pretty new to this and trying to understand it properly, is there a way to check for cards played instead of scored? (so something could only happen once with 1 card even with 8 retriggers on it)

[lilac yacht]

no green and small text at the same time 😔

[woeful bough]

Yes

[lilac yacht]

how would i do that?

[woeful bough]

For this you have to do {C:green,s:0.7}

[woeful bough]

Wait till I get home

[lilac yacht]

aight

[lilac yacht]

says potentially invalid but it works in preview so ill just leave it like that, thanks

[woeful bough]

Known bug

Also that's how you do anything multiple

[lilac yacht]

ill keep it in mind if i need to do multiple things like that later

[woeful bough]

You can technically do {C:white,X:legendary,E:1,s:0.5}

[lilac yacht]

o great heavens

[crude trail]

The idea behind this joker is still unclear. Maybe I'll have to do something about it

[woeful bough]

Isn't that chaos theory

Also it could be "X5 mult every other hand"

Since that's what it is

[olive agate]

i wish there was a condition about "if then else" if you now wat i meant

[woeful bough]

There's an "or" optipm

Which is that

Click on the "and" between two condition grips and ot turns into an "or"

[olive agate]

i tried to make a joker that has a 1 in 2 chance to double money otherwise sets the money to 0

[woeful bough]

You'd just do 2 random chance groups?

1 in2 chance to double money

1 in 2 chance to set money to 0

[olive agate]

but then both effects will trigger

[woeful bough]

If you put the "set money to 0" after the double money ot will set money to 0 no matter what

Also if it does trigger the 0

[exotic quartz]

missed opportunity for hand to randomize each turn

[sour spear]

2 probabilities in 1 rule can be either both, one will trigger, or none

[woeful bough]

yea theres a chance it doesnt

[woeful bough]

why does this crash the game?

this also crashes it

@sour spear you should probably fix this lol

a lot of the jokers are shuffled

[crude trail]

I'm trying this

[young relic]

i wonder why judgement isn't implemented yet

[sour spear]

uh yeah uhh

later im forsakening

[young relic]

it's basically just "Create Joker" am i not wrong?

also i love how in my pool of "Jen's Almanac levels of Unbalanced" jokers, this is the only one that isn't so fucked up

[woeful bough]

how unbalanced are the other ones

[sour spear]

can you try uhh remove the mod folder and downloading it agan

[wild pier]

mf happy as fuck

[woeful bough]

balancing

[wild pier]

the fuck is incredulous

[woeful bough]

a rarity

[wild pier]

you wanna see my type of rarirties vro..

[young relic]

COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGHHHHHHHHHH

[woeful bough]

oh i meant in joker forge

if i could id do tetration

[young relic]

there was the uhhhhhhhh
"solinium omega" but that one was so badly buggy i deleted it 😭

[woeful bough]

😠

[sour spear]

ok i replaced the zip file

@woeful bough try downloading the mod in the github

[woeful bough]

id describe my mod as balanced unbalanced-ly

my most unbalanced joker (besides TV time) is me

[young relic]

this one

was the one i was talking about

[woeful bough]

its just every joker

lol

[young relic]

I AM

SO FUCKING STUPID

[woeful bough]

if you have 3 jokers (which you need) get fucked 🥀

[olive agate]

how did you do the "^^^" thing?

[woeful bough]

editing the code

[olive agate]

oh ok

[young relic]

(thankfully) it isn't TOO difficult to modify it

so long as you have talisman you just have to change the inside of "return { (code) }"

[wild pier]

gimblengarry

[wild pier]

OH GOD THATS BRIGHT

FUCK

[young relic]

oopsie

[wild pier]

OH MY FUCKING EYES

EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS DARK EDITION

MY EYES BURN

[young relic]

oh there is a dark mode on notepad++

[heady frost]

give me your json and i will have a look at it when i wake up

[exotic quartz]

no idea what's causing this but random cards appears to be making dupes

[ashen prairie]

Ah yes, the classic Cryptidlike modder
A respectable occupation
A tip of the hat, from a vanilla-style modder

(Well I say vanilla when im doing whatever this is)

[heady frost]

when it goes to create the card, it first randomises it and stores it, then creates it. so when you are creating multiple cards within the same context, it just creates the same randomised card multiple times lol

[heady frost]

i ended up just staying awake cos i couldnt sleep

so ill have a look now

[heady frost]

gamevars have not been properly integrated into code generation for consumables, i will look at doing that rather today or tomorrow maybe if i can think of a solution, thats why horizon doesnt work

you can see actually in the code how jokerforge stores gamevars as GAMEVAR:total_hand_levels/3/0

usually for jokers they will then convert that into the proper code respective to that gamevar, but consumables dont have that yet

also shimmer is not crashing for me

[woeful bough]

i just realized i changed what the code did cuz it was crashing

ill send the old version

[oblique sail]

how is it made in the editor?

[oblique sail]

Oh is it a custom variable?

[icy crow]

from this file

[woeful bough]

probably could have optimised it better

[oblique sail]

thx, now i know how to add chips/mult

[wild pier]

greenable template if you wanna submit any

(btw they have overlays)

[icy crow]

Find help

[heady dock]

truth nuke

[heady frost]

I AWAKE

my sleep schedule is so asss

[heady dock]

john good "joker" forge morning no way hi

[icy crow]

Wdym awake at 6pm

[heady frost]

i can see the crash, will sort it out now

[woeful bough]

i love time zones

its 12 PM for me

[icy crow]

True

[crude trail]

What time is it there? here it's almost 13:00

[icy crow]

WDYM AT 5 PM???

[heady frost]

it is 5pm for me

i woke up like an hour ago

i went to bed at like 10am

its because i woke up at like 1am and i couldnt get back to sleep

whenever i wake up in the night i cant get back to sleep its so annoyin g

[woeful bough]

my sleep shedule used to be like that

[heady frost]

que?

[crude trail]

I was looking forward to making jokers based on the Spanish shitpost

sometimes I just want to make jokers in Spanish without translating the joke

[heady frost]

this should be fixed now because i made it into one effect that has a bunch of options

[woeful bough]

lol

[woeful bough]

would it be possible to make an effect thats a copy of this but effects all cards in hand?

[wild pier]

green

do 3 choices work or only 2 work

[woeful bough]

horizon?

horizon still crashes

[heady frost]

not horizon

horizon crashes because it uses gamevars

which consumables dont support at the moment

[wild pier]

btw mr morning do choices work like this

[heady frost]

im waiting until i get a lot of effects done for consumables before i add gamevar support

[heady dock]

these are just 3 individual 1 in 4 chances

they dont affect each other

[heady frost]

i dont think random chance fully works but it may do

also

i just changed it so those effects dont exist anymore

they have been combined into a "edit card" effect

also, i just added this effect too

[somber oar]

Is there a final hand of the round played block? Cant seem to find it if its there, or how to make it exist

[heady frost]

for jokers? you can use the "remaining hands" condition

[heady dock]

just check if remaining hands = 0

[heady frost]

look at how dusk does it

[somber oar]

Alright thanks

[woeful bough]

gamevars dont work with consumables yet right?

[heady frost]

no they do not

[crude trail]

lmao

[wild pier]

does it show it in full screen or does it genuinely just show it like that

does it genuinely squish the resolution

[crude trail]

reduce the window to get a better view and there is still more text missing

[somber oar]

Im either tweaking or I cant make it, but im trying to make the effect of When the last hand of the round is played, destroy played cards and gain x0.5 mult.

[woeful bough]

option 1

[somber oar]

Well the Destroy Triggered Card effect is not showing up in the effects list despite it existing elsewhere

What I see working on my joker vs. What is visible while looking at trading card.

[woeful bough]

duplicate trading card and work from there

you can just change the art and name

[somber oar]

Attempted and cant do it, I just dont think the effect is compatible with last hand played.

[woeful bough]

hold on a sec

[delicate cave]

How to make my text smaller for the "(must have room)" line

[woeful bough]

inactive

[somber oar]

Ah thanks

[heady frost]

added the create joker effect for consumables

[heady frost]

destroy triggered card is exclusive to the "card scored" trigger

you cant destroy cards in "hand played"

you can still do card scored as the trigger, then do remaining hands = 0, then destroy triggered card

that will destroy all cards in the last hand of the round

[somber oar]

Alright thanks

Ill probably be asking a lot of questions since this is pretty new to me

[woeful bough]

i think making the weight be able to go in the 0.00's would be nice

for soul-esc cards until booster packs come out

[woeful bough]

were shaders fixed?

[heady dock]

but does it destroy all other jokers?

[woeful bough]

no

not a thing yet

and nobody really gets exotics from that tbh

[icy crow]

classic moment of "yoink from cryptid"

[woeful bough]

i didnt...

is that what the card is called in cryptid?

[icy crow]

simillar

[woeful bough]

what else do i call it tho :/

[icy crow]

dunno

[heady frost]

let me further test it with custom rarities, forgot to test it with them lol

[heady frost]

were shaders ever broken?

wait they are, the code gen isnt even generating code for them lol

wait not they are not

[woeful bough]

You have the json, look

[heady frost]

they are being generated, but i think theres a typo lol

[woeful bough]

Haha

[heady frost]

i am not looking at your json i have made my own

[oblique sail]

Crash 😞

[oblique sail]

Idk I think i did it wrong

-# Joker 1 - if you have at least 20$ at end of shop take away 20$ and gain both one joker slots and ^0.25 mult
-# Joker 2 - when a heart is played gain Xn mult n goes up by 1 when a heart is played

Its not that complicated

[woeful bough]

Gimme a sec

[woeful bough]

This wording is so bad 😭

[oblique sail]

Mb

As you can tell I am from england

I am so fluent

[low jasper]

i made a joker with that effect that destroys cards that are in the first discard

[woeful bough]

joker one

[oblique sail]

Yeah that's what I did

At least I did that right

[woeful bough]

idk joker 2 is confusing

[oblique sail]

Played a heart and a variable goes up by 1

Then do x mult to the variable

[woeful bough]

that isnt how it was worded

[oblique sail]

Yeah

So it's scaling x mult lusty joker

[somber oar]

Hooray my first successful joker works

[oblique sail]

Good

[jovial raptor]

hey i need help w something

this rule doesnt give me 5 dollar when hand finishes scoring

[woeful bough]

just do when hand played

[jovial raptor]

actually i wanna change the code after exporting this rule

i want to compare the initial mult with the current mult and if they are equal it should destroy itself

after scoring

[jovial raptor]

this

[woeful bough]

again, when hand played is the same thing

[jovial raptor]

but i dont want that 😭

[woeful bough]

...when hand finishes scoring functions identically

[jovial raptor]

but its not supposed to be equal

they are NOT equal

the joker destoy itself before scoring

[jovial raptor]

and it should destroy the joker after scoring

but does it before

[icy crow]

context.after and context.joker_main are not the same

context.after think ice cream's -5 chips
context.joker_main think normal Joker's +4 mult

[heady frost]

i should probably put the actual context names in the triggers descriptions

that might be useful

[icy crow]

context.after = when hand finishes scoring
context.joker_main = when hand played

[icy crow]

may be

[heady dock]

it would be very useful especially for people that do have some technical knowledge about contexts and stuff

[somber oar]

Is there a triger for having a specific joker? (for example, gains x0.5 mult for each Joker(jimbo) in play?)

[heady dock]

#SMODS.find_card(<whatever the key of the joker is>) i think

it should return the number of copies of that joker you have

[icy crow]

this is joker forge :)

[heady dock]

oh oops

[somber oar]

Oh nvm theres a module for it.

[heady dock]

the actual coding brainrot is setting in

[somber oar]

Thanks though just found it.

[heady dock]

holy hell

[somber oar]

Woahhh

[heady frost]

lmao thats so good

[heady frost]

how are you doing all?

are you just putting 100 into the cards lol

[woeful bough]

yea

exactly what i did

considering most people wont have 100 hand size and even if you do you probably already have your deck fixed

[heady frost]

thats so good

[crimson silo]

imagine how good it'll be with shark joker from prism which makes all next editions be polychrome, and then also add dark prism so shark now makes all next editions astral which is ^1.12 mult

[jovial raptor]

can somebody help me?

[heady frost]

put scoring things in hand played, put your destroy self effect in when hand finishes scoring

or just put the destroy self as the last effect

and it should just work

and do that effect last

[jovial raptor]

how

[heady dock]

make multiple triggers

[heady frost]

you can drag the effects around to sort them

on your rules

[jovial raptor]

What I need is:
At the start of the hand, I want to store the initial Mult value.
Then, after scoring is complete (after all card effects and Jokers are calculated), I want to:
Compare the current Mult with the initial Mult.
If both are equal, the Joker should destroy itself.
Otherwise, it should stay

how can I do that?

[bleak fiber]

how do i make it so its a a card taht has it so that it triggers a card form hand and then discard it\

[heady frost]

I don't think this is possible without manually editing the code unfortunately

[heady frost]

"when card is held in hand" trigger may help

[bleak fiber]

i did but i need help with the effect

[heady frost]

I can't even remember if that's possible, you may just have to play around with it

[woeful bough]

idk if its steammodded or joker forge but some of my jokers scale twice when being copied by blueprint

[heady dock]

no proper blueprint compat

[ashen prairie]

That reminds me! A card that makes negative playing cards would be fire!
Select 1 playing card to turn Negative.

[heady dock]

what no and not context.blueprint does to a joker

[woeful bough]

i ddi that

[heady dock]

five is cracked

[ashen prairie]

I'm not a cryptid gamer so unfortunately imma be lame and make mine only one

[woeful bough]

theyre rare

really rare

[ashen prairie]

Oh, and hows the consumable options btw

[stone cargo]

Where is add mult effect

[woeful bough]

2 thousand dollars rare 😭

[heady dock]

isnt it literally the first effect under scoring effects

[woeful bough]

why do people ask questions the millisecond they have one instead of spending like 30 seconds to actually LOOK at the website?

[heady dock]

too hard

[woeful bough]

fair enough

[heady dock]

average attention span of a balatro player is REALLY short

[ashen prairie]

ow :<

[heady dock]

average

[stone cargo]

this is my list

[heady dock]

what trigger

[stone cargo]

Scoring dont appaer

[woeful bough]

you use the when hand is played block

[icy crow]

you have the wrong trigger

[ashen prairie]

...ow?
-# is that a compliment or insult i dont know

[heady dock]

has to be when hand is played, held in hand or card scored

[icy crow]

i mean i know people that ask me questions that literally take 2 seconds to look at the screen to know the answer to because i'm "good at computers"

and im not even at CS

[heady dock]

the average is low im not saying all balatro players are stupid

[heady frost]

some triggers don't have scoring because they aren't gameplay related, like shop reroll or skip tag and stuff like that

[stone cargo]

i'm using this

[jovial raptor]

Can u help me pretty pleasee?

[woeful bough]

my friend once asked where the stakes were. i asked him to look at the screen (he was screen sharing) and he found it instantly

[woeful bough]

...what are you trying to do?

[heady dock]

well yeah you cant do scoring there because thats not during a hand

[stone cargo]

i want do something like constelation

[heady dock]

thats

with a variable

[icy crow]

you can look at the vanilla reforged tab

[woeful bough]

there is a vanilla reforged page, you can go there and copy constellation to look inside

[icy crow]

and clone constellation

[woeful bough]

😠

[heady frost]

you can increment a variable and then add mult based on that variable for hand played

I'm like 5 messages behind you guys are too fast

[stone cargo]

but I want to add multi, not multiply it

[icy crow]

i said clone constellation

so you can look at how it's made

fun

[heady frost]

does constellation not exist

or is the search bar not working or something lol

[icy crow]

1 of 150 jokers

[stone cargo]

I didn't know I could do that.

sorry

[heady frost]

don't even worry about it

no need to say sorry

[icy crow]

search bar

[heady frost]

the search bar is broken then lol

[icy crow]

we are here to help

[heady frost]

fixing the search bar is a tomorrow job I'm already in bed

unless someone can figure out the code and make a pr

[crude trail]

you speak Spanish?

[heady frost]

nej

[stone cargo]

Si

perdon, no se mucho ingles

[crude trail]

te explico en priv si te sirve

[stone cargo]

Si por favor

[icy crow]

sad to inform you but there's a rule against non-english conversation

[heady frost]

me no hablo Espanol

donda esta bibliotequa

[crude trail]

I always found it funny that they say Espanol

[heady frost]

Espana?

[jovial raptor]

somebody help me please 😭

[heady frost]

I do NOT know spanish

[crude trail]

you have a lot to learn

[icy crow]

we cant help without knowing the question

[heady frost]

you can start with a good base from joker forge, then when editing the code, you can refer to the current mult as 'mult'

[jovial raptor]

yeah ik it but theres a problem

[heady frost]

what is the problem

[jovial raptor]

this shi doesn't wait for the hand to finish scoring and destroy itself before it

[woeful bough]

did the bug where trying to spawn a joker with a consumable get fixed?

[heady frost]

yes it should work now?

maybe?

[heady frost]

I think it is, but there is a difference between when the animation stops and when the other jokers are done scoring

I honestly can't remember if I fixed the issue with jokers but I'm pretty sure I did

[woeful bough]

every consumable

[heady frost]

so fire

[woeful bough]

i didnt feel like drawing a prism so i went to google

lol

[olive agate]

wow, we have the same idea

[heady frost]

in a few days consumables will be STACKED with effects

[olive agate]

trancendant jokers and mythical jokers

[woeful bough]

make consumable rates go into 0.00's?

[heady frost]

yes that too if I remember

[jovial raptor]

this is the code, but this doesn't wait, idk how to fix it

[icy crow]

goodmorning please fix the indentation of your code gen please and thank you

[heady frost]

you could just manually edit the weight in sets.lua but that's boring but it works for now

[heady frost]

this has cursed me for so long but it's literally impossible to do

I might honestly make an entirely separate system that all the generated code goes into and it gets re-indented

it will increase the complexity when you hit export but it might be worth it because it's such a piss take

[icy crow]

formatter implemented just for looks

[heady frost]

but honestly your ide should take care of the indentation regardless

[olive agate]

here's the consumables i made

[heady frost]

I need to update the vanilla reforged page with consumables too

I think like 75% of them can already be made surprisingly

[olive agate]

what do you think @heady frost ?

[icy crow]

Would it be like sections similar to the ones in the block pallet?

[slate glen]

capital letters are free

[icy crow]

Imagine

[crude trail]

I will borrow Code's idea to have more balance with my Aces jokers

[olive agate]

wdym?

[slate glen]

none of the consumable names are capitalized

neither is the elemental rarity

[olive agate]

they all cost 3$ while fire cost 5$

[slate glen]

anyway fire and undead are good, unique concepts

water is not great, there’s not much incentive to take that

[olive agate]

what should the price be then?

[slate glen]

eh well I would personally rethink the effect

maybe it makes 2 cards wild, but turns a random one in hand to stone or something

[olive agate]

good idea

what about air and life though?

[heady frost]

I imagine it like you go onto the page and you have different buttons or whatever for like jokers or consumables, then you click one and it shows you it

or you just have it like on a dock at the bottom or something

[slate glen]

life could either copy a selected card, or copy 2 random cards

(create copies)

like death but you’re only gaining cards

thus, life

[icy crow]

so cryptid?

[olive agate]

and air?

[slate glen]

Cryptid gives you two, this would make it a middle ground

presumably it is not as rare as a spectral

[icy crow]

Oh wait you said random

Mb

[slate glen]

i am not sure

a possible effect that comes to mind is adding foil edition to cards in hand that are already enhanced

actually this seems like more of a water effect

like a splash of blue foil

[olive agate]

but earth already does that, applying a random edition to 1 selected card

[slate glen]

true

isn’t that just aura though

[olive agate]

well no because it could also include negative and the other modded editions

[slate glen]

fair

[spark patio]

Despite there probably being enough to work it out I'm just gonna suggest some more conditions/triggers/effects (so more of my jokers can actually be coded)

• card rank/suit being analyzed when a hand is drawn
• temporary effects for consumable effects (like, only applying something like hand size for a round or two)
• leveling up hand types
• applying extra operations to chips/mult values of playing cards

sorry for derailing for a moment I just wanted to put it out there in case it wasn't in the to-do list

[olive agate]

its fine

[slate glen]

you could probably make a generic variable to simulate temporary effects

just have it tick down when blind is selected

have the passive effect be dependent on the internal variable not being 0

i think

dunno if that works in practice

[woeful bough]

nope

[olive agate]

wat

[woeful bough]

shimmer doesnt make negatives

[olive agate]

oh