Joker Forge - Create Balatro Mods Visually and Export the Lua Files (WIP)

[heady frost]

or maybe the triggers can be 'when cards are selected', 'use anytime', 'use for all cards in hand'

for things like hanged man, wheel of fortune, and immolate respectively

[wild pier]

wait are planet cards the same as consumables

or are they both different

[heady frost]

yes

[wild pier]

okay

[heady frost]

tarots, spectrals, and planets should all be able to be made

[wild pier]

ooh

[sour spear]

can you add a effect that gives enhancements to other jokers i wanna do this to make more item jokers

[wild pier]

that genuinely sounds koolio

[heady frost]

so pluto would be: use anytime (trigger), level up hand: high card (effect)

[elfin nest]

Haiiiii what if u get something that makes certain jokers only appear in a certain booster pack

[heady frost]

and hanged man would be: when cards are selected (trigger), if cards selected = 2 (condition), destroy cards (effect)

[heady frost]

that would be cool, it would probably come with making booster packs, i will make consumables all good and nice, then move onto the booster packs section of consumables

[lapis mauve]

i feel like uh

decks and packs would be easier to make

and why would booster packs be a section of consumables 🤔

shouldnt it be its own thing

[heady frost]

because in my head they are a one time thing that get 'consumed' idk

[lapis mauve]

fair

[elfin nest]

Yippie!!

[heady frost]

because it will be easier to get them done around the same time

because if im adding custom consumables then booster packs seem fair enough because i need the frontend for you to be able to select them

the majority of coding joker forge goes to the frontend, the code generation is only a small section of programming time

and its not for making things just look nice, its stuff like when i make custom consumables, i gotta make sure that those custom consumables, as well as their type, now show up when you have a joker effect that creates/destroys/copies consumable

like in the menus

thats the difficult part, having things dynamically change in the frontend depending on what else you have

[heady dock]

Tbh adding triggers for consumables seems redundant, since everything for them only happens when you use them anyway

It would just make looking for conditions harder

[wild pier]

43 joker problem still happens

in autosave

[lapis mauve]

peak

do you make the icons yourself or do you get them from somewhere?

[wild pier]

thought that said nomnomcu

nom nom

[heady frost]

yes, code-wise there are no conventional triggers like jokers have with contexts, however i think triggers in this case would be good to separate how you use the consumable

like i said, a trigger for amount of cards selected, a trigger which is 'can use anytime' etc.

i stil need to ruminate on this though

[heady frost]

heroicons

[heady dock]

Id say using triggers would also just be a bit wierd since their general wording doesnt actually reflect what consumables do at all

Like, calling it "when cards are selected" when it actually means if cards are selected is just

Idk

[woeful bough]

are you planning to make a vanilla reforged for consumables

[crude trail]

yes it happens to me too but for the next update it will be fixed.

[heady frost]

yeah, i want to do it for all vanilla things eventually. the page will have different tabs for consumables, jokers, decks, stakes, etc.

[heady frost]

i get what you mean, ill have to think it over, but also this could be applied to existing triggers like "when a blind is selected" could be "if blind is selected" kinda thing

ill have to think it over but maybe you are right. just have 1 trigger for visual purposes which is "consumable used" or something

then "if two cards are selected" or something

but that means that effects have to be trigger dependent which i dont like

because you cant have the effect "edit selected cards" without the "if two cards are selected" condition

[heady dock]

well that would make sense, cant edit any selected cards if you dont select any

[heady frost]

this is why id prefer it if it were a trigger, because effects are never condition specific, only trigger specific

[heady dock]

i cant think of any effects that would be condition specific tbh

like yes some effects wouldnt do anything sometimes but thats generally pretty obvious

[heady frost]

yeah there arent any for the joker editor

thats true i guess

you could add the effect but it doesnt do anything

yeah that makes sense

cos the condition would be "if cards selected >= 2" "edit card"

or maybe i split it up into just two triggers, on use, and can use

can use trigger only has conitions and effects for when you can use it

and on use trigger actually does the effects

so on use would have the "edit triggered cards effect" and can use has the "cards selected >= 2"

[heady dock]

that would be pretty good actually, allows you to have conditional effects like with jokers while still having proper use conditions

[heady frost]

and that more closely resembles the code too

[woeful bough]

What do you think will be the easiest to implement (jokers, editions, decks, etc.)

[heady frost]

decks for sure

rarities took me like 5 hours to add which is pretty good

but decks i reckon would take me a couple of days

editions/enhancements would be hard because i would wanna have some nice shader editing

but i also eventually wanna add custom suits, poker hands, ranks, etc. but that will probably be hard to

[heady dock]

enhancements could still use the regular image uploading system right? all you would really need is maybe a preview for how it will look on cards as a quality of life that

[heady frost]

yeah im pretty sure, but editions i wanna go all out for

but initially i will probably just have presets you can select

[woeful bough]

Enhancements dont have shaders

[heady frost]

yeah but editions do

and i am gonna do them both at the same time

[woeful bough]

Fair

[heady frost]

it will probably be like its own page for the both of them

[woeful bough]

They are basically the same thing

[heady frost]

yeah exactly it will be chill

[woeful bough]

I tried experimenting with glsl shaders... i have no idea what is happening

[heady frost]

i will initially just probably have community made and submitted shaders as presets until i figure out a more in depth editor for the shader stuff

maybe it will just end up being a bunch of sliders lol

that is going to be a bitch to program for frontend

and the site is already pretty laggy because it has to do so much. im quite limited by it being a site and not a desktop app

[woeful bough]

It runs fine for me!

[heady frost]

thats good to hear atleast

its because it has to load everything in at once, but it kinda has to do that if i want to eventually add code generation whilst editing blocks

[nimble island]

is this the biggest post in modding?

its been out 3 weeks

[heady frost]

nah probably not, i reckon steammodded will have more messages

[nimble island]

oh right

[heady frost]

its because im actually updating this shit daily

[nimble island]

but its so popular so soon

[heady frost]

i think cos it fills in a good niche

and its accessible

[nimble island]

yeah

[heady frost]

and more fun to talk about lol

im floored by all the support tho thank u guys

[nimble island]

I only need to give this joker rules and im done with making jokers on this mod Im excited

[low jasper]

this is the most helpful balatro tool

you literally dont have to know how to code now to make jokers

because of Joker Forge

[heady frost]

thank u guys its very motivating to hear stuff like that

[lapis mauve]

have this joker

this should be a template lol

[heady dock]

coming straight from your house

[lapis mauve]

yes

[woeful bough]

It looks like freakbait

[rare portal]

i was just about to say "today's mission"

[woeful bough]

Today's mission: join a community discussion page on any web service and make a freakbait reference

[heady dock]

i dont think this is correct

jacks are truly my favorite suit

[heady frost]

WHAT

[heady dock]

i dont even know 😭

[nimble island]

jacks are a suit

did you forget?

check in game

trust

[neon marten]

Today's Mission: come straight from someone's house

I also saw freakbait lol

[low jasper]

lol - theres a bug with my joker called "bug!"

[umbral stag]

is this fax

(it is)

[woeful bough]

📠

[dark raptor]

Video of the issue I described the other day. Should create a sigil card but makes a familiar one instead.

[heady dock]

did you select the correct spectral card in joker forge

[dark raptor]

lol i had a feeling someone would ask that

yes

[heady frost]

strange, i'll make an issue on the github if you have github so i dont forget to fix this again when i have time lol

just tried it out myself, no matter what any of them are creating familiar

[dark raptor]

weird

[heady frost]

found the issue i believe. it was a typo

try again in a couple of mins

should be fixed

[exotic quartz]

am I missing something, or does passive not offer the option of hand size?

[neon marten]

idk lol

[exotic quartz]

looks like trying to rename jokers ends up creating duplicates

[woeful bough]

Just a visual bug

Re-download your mod

[exotic quartz]

variables being weird

[exotic quartz]

is there a way to make a joker dynamically add hand size? trying to make a joker where each unenhanced card held gives 0.5 hand size.

[woeful bough]

Can't the hand size bonus be a variable

Then you do "enhanced cards in deck" game var

And subtract it

[exotic quartz]

I mean unenhanced cards held

[woeful bough]

But that

[woeful bough]

Is there not a held in hand condition

[exotic quartz]

yeah it's there in the screenshot

the tricky part is adding hand size needs something to reset/subtract it

and I can't just set the hand size to a number without conflicts to other hand size bonuses

[heady dock]

i dont think hand size works with variables regardless

or maybe it does but passive effects are wierd with it im pretty sure

[exotic quartz]

this one isn't based on hand size though

[heady dock]

okay well my best solution is

[exotic quartz]

Lebaron James from Cryptid has an effect where scoring Kings increases hand size for the round, but I have no idea how to replicate it

[heady dock]

yeah i know but again

passive effects work wierdly with variables

though the best solution i can think of is

well actually im pretty sure any hand size gained during a round gets reset after it

[exotic quartz]

also just to be clear when I export a new version, I can just replace the files, right?

[woeful bough]

I usually dont but your probably fine

[exotic quartz]

yeah idk

[heady dock]

i meant like

if you dont use a variable and just put the edit hand size on card scored

im pretty sure it resets after round then

the hand size

[exotic quartz]

the mod internal variable is a remenant, it doesn't do anything there's no other rules or conditions

[heady dock]

okay uhhh,,,,,,,,,,,,

idk

[heady frost]

sorry if the site doesnt get updates for a few days, im working on introducing consumables which right now feels like a herculean task but ill get it done

[rain mason]

WE'RE SO BACK

[neon marten]

WE’RE SO BACK

lol

[nimble island]

If anyone wants me to make them a free legendary art just dm me the name and color of the background I’ll get it to you by a day

Or less

[exotic quartz]

I'm still having issues with seals crashing, even after reloading. also, by Recursion, I mean this one

[heady frost]

have you re-exported your jokers

[exotic quartz]

I'm not sure, could you inform me how?

[heady frost]

go back onto joker forge and export your mod again

[exotic quartz]

that's it?

yeah I've done that 50 times at this point

[rain mason]

I did a thing

[heady frost]

send me your saved mod json

[heady frost]

having a look now

wtf

you are right

i literally fixed these

how did that happen lmao

im so confused i remember fixing these both am i tripping

[heady frost]

you need to re-select the seals in your wojack one

then that one will just work

having a look properly at recursion now

and i know the error i made with the recursion fix. i fixed it specifically for mults in the same rule, rather than conditionally like i shouldve

[exotic quartz]

still haven't quite wrapped my head around the logic yet so this is mostly guesswork, but it's not related to this not functioning, is it?

[heady frost]

what joker are you trying to make

[exotic quartz]

this was an earlier version of "House of Cards", 0.5x per full house, 1/2 chance to reset on non-full house. I was informed that having multiple of the same trigger go off at the same time would only count the first

there's also the case of this Joker, where destorying certain enhancements will gain buffs, but only one would work at the same time. I know the way card destruction works right now is kinda janky, particularly with retriggers.

I actually recall retriggers preventing destruction of cards, but that seems to have been fixed

[glass canopy]

add pluey to joker forge

[heady frost]

yeah this is a known bug unfortunately

your joker looks correct though, i will have a better look after im finished trying to fix this recursion joker bug

[exotic quartz]

Wo-Jack is working as intended tho thanks for that

[heady frost]

thats great to hear

thank you for pointing out the bug with recursion still not working, my fix turned out to be bad lol

it only fixed it if you used one rule, it didnt fix it globally per joker

[heady frost]

should be fixed now, i rewrote a lot of the effect naming code so it should be a lot more robust to these sorta errors

[heady frost]

also sneak peak (literally basically the same page lol)

[glass canopy]

YEAHHH

[sleek dock]

is it possible to make a weighted probability of sorts?

smth like a list of 10 different things that can happen, and 1 of those things happens at random

[exotic quartz]

apparently my files have been modified 5 hours into the future

[exotic quartz]

still looks like it's having issues

[olive agate]

i made a mythical rarity

mychical jokers are WAY more powerful than exotic jokers

[sleek dock]

i am not sure if range mode works properly with internal variables

[exotic quartz]

realized Black Bean dynamically changes hand size, which I looked to replicate for some of my jokers, but the Vanilla Reforged version actually sets hand size to 5 rather than add it.

[exotic quartz]

is subtracting hand size by a variable supposed to crash the game? because I have a second joker that does the same thing except it's a fixed value, not a variable and it works fine

[exotic quartz]

this is also crashing the game and I have no idea why

apparently royal flush specifically causes it, straight flushes are fine

[umbral stag]

erm... cryptposting already has mythic jokers

you stole our idea 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[lapis mauve]

also you cant input 0 or anything below anywhere

so if you want to make a misprint for example by you cant

you have to specifically duplicate the template

tf 😭

[heady dock]

Yeah lmao

[ashen prairie]

I'm making a Joker that makes Tarots sell for more money. I came up with this.
Will this
1 - Check if card sold is a tarot, and if so, add money
2 - Check if any cards are tarots (even if not the one being sold), and if so, add money
Please I need to know

[ashen prairie]

I can't waaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiit aaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ping me when you get it done I could do so muchhhh

[ashen prairie]

Current band-aid solution is to set consumable slots to 1 so it can only check one held card, and to make it worth it, make them sell for even more to compensate.

3rd option is this. Too complex for what is supposed to be the "Joker" of my collection but in case of emergency...

[wild pier]

the epik mod releases when consumables added

because of uhh..

yeaah

[heady frost]

haha no way

[heady dock]

Stuntbean 🔥

[heady frost]

is there not a consumable type condition for card sold

[heady frost]

mythic is the default rarity when someone goes and creates one 😈

[heady dock]

Cryptposting team needs to get a lawyer no way...

[icy crow]

let me add a mythic rarity to my mod rq

[heady dock]

Cant wait for every mod ever to add a different mythic rarity

[wild pier]

that’ll make it crash because raritys cant be the same

i thonk..

[icy crow]

mod prefix

[wild pier]

ohg

[icy crow]

just 20 different rarities called mythic 🔥

[low jasper]

is the consumable page gonna have a consumable types bit?

[hidden oriole]

just make that it sets hand size to specific one, it will stay like that until changed by other jokers or by vouchers

[heady dock]

How does that help with hand size not being an option

[lapis mauve]

now that i see it hands and discards arent there either

[heady dock]

They used to be

Strange

[lapis mauve]

yeah

[sour spear]

reworked chance

[woeful bough]

Ive never played forsaken lol

But I was gonna make a two-time joker cuz that's like one of the characters I know

[sour spear]

time to troubleshoot (ignore mr washee washee i cant get him off)

[heady frost]

yessir

[heady frost]

whoops

re-added them back

[lapis mauve]

also combine suits shows ranks for some reason

[sour spear]

can the jokers that are shown in the base game collection can be sorted like rarities or etc.? or just by name only

[low jasper]

have u added all the forsaken survivors?

[sour spear]

soon

not now

also text or boolian variables when

[neon marten]

Um… my mod has chance plush and bootleg chance plush lol

that’s actually kinda funny

[sour spear]

i also used to have chance plush but removed in ny 1.1.1 flushtro patch update temporarily

if youre wondering what he does is just spawn wheel of fortune

[heady frost]

fixed

[heady dock]

How would strings be useful at all lol

[sour spear]

so description can show whether if something is active or not like the dna

dynamically

[heady frost]

you spittin

any other features like that will be done after i have started to implement consumables

then i wil go back and iterate on it

[rain mason]

heyyy

hey

heyy

Angelica's higher rarity is called Angelic

not Mythic

[sleek dock]

what if i make "spatial" a rarity

[sour spear]

if it wasnt for pizza tower i wouldnt be pixel arting rn

[neon marten]

When do you think consumables will be done?

[sleek dock]

are card enhancements going to be a thing eventually

[woeful bough]

i think he said an early version would be out in a few days

[icy crow]

content hungry thread :)

[woeful bough]

2 seconds without an update

[summer python]

Just don't use the other mod

[heady frost]

I can probably have the start of consumables out in a day or two, but I will be working on it until all the vanilla consumables are replicable for like a good few weeks

or would you guys prefer it I add a simple version of each enhancements/editions too and just develop them alongside, rather than doing each of them full at once

[lapis mauve]

Enhancements and seals seem the easiest

Since they pretty much use joker logic

[heady frost]

yeah tbf I could add simple versions of each

[lapis mauve]

Editions would be pretty hard if you wanna go all out and have a visual editor

I think

[heady frost]

that will probably come when editions have many associated effects

[lapis mauve]

Oh and rn requesting for a toggle to have editions display above/below the card

Below the card like lucky cards

[heady frost]

I will finish up this basic consumables stuff, then I will see how I feel about it. usually I like focusing on one section at a time but I could probably split it up

[lapis mauve]

And above like stone cards

Oh and a no rank/suit toggle

[heady frost]

oh yeah I get you

didn't even think of that

[lapis mauve]

Haha

Mostly cuz of artbox

Stained cards used to be just like stone cards, where they just delete the rank and suit image

But now it actually overlays it

Which is really cool

[woeful bough]

theres ups and downs to both

[spark patio]

I mean it probably would make all the complaints of lack of features all at once

[woeful bough]

release an early version of them and then after that focus on one at a time

that way people have time to mess around with everything as you spend time refining one

EX: release enhancements, editions, etc. and then focus on consumables

[sour spear]

sure

[neon marten]

wait that would be fire

I was gonna request that next lol

[heady frost]

I'll look into adding a simple version then once this simple consumables is working

it will probably be a few days before you guys are able to make consumables and it will probably only have some basic effects initially

[icy crow]

Oh god if you make a shader editor for balatro so many people will come here just for that

[nimble island]

Is it out now

Im outside

[nimble island]

Seems pointed

[neon marten]

what

TBH if you get 2 Hanged Mans and have patience, it works

[nimble island]

Woosh

Anyway I’m sleeping

[neon marten]

I thought you meant pointless

[lapis mauve]

Heard smods reworked probabilities

Would be awesome to have those features

Like this

For example

[icy crow]

Is that MY SCREENSHOT?1?1

Smh my head

[lapis mauve]

Nuhuh i screenshotted your screenshot

[heady dock]

enhancements dont appear above/below, its just that stone cards dont have the rank and suit textures because it doesnt have a rank or suit

[lapis mauve]

Well itd still be cool to have

[heady dock]

it would but im pretty sure that would require new rendering code entirely since its not in vanilla

[ashen prairie]

Nope, only Specific Joker

[lapis mauve]

I mean artbox has it

Idunno how they do that though

[heady dock]

there isnt even an enhancements file on the github at all

so idk if they did it at all

oh no the folder name is just wierd

[lapis mauve]

There is though.

[heady dock]

alr

[lapis mauve]

Yeah

[heady dock]

yeah it has like 80 lines of rendering code which isnt that bad i suppose

[lapis mauve]

Wow thats a lot lfmao

Way more than i expected

[heady dock]

i mean ig its just because it has rendering code for when the card has an edition, debuffed or is greyed out in the deck which all seems pretty simple code

i'd imagine thats just the same for most things in the game

and i doubt it could be as complicated as the cryptid third layer rendering code for exotics

[olive agate]

i wish there was a way to make consumables and packs

[lapis mauve]

Not yet

Currently being worked on though!

[uneven zenith]

How do you do random chances?
For example, 1 in 4 chance to lose the run.
I checked on one of the Vanilla jokers, but it just doesn't have a check for randomness.

[heady dock]

the add probability group button

i think its the yellow button in the top right of an effect

[uneven zenith]

Ah
Thanks

[nimble island]

when edition?

[lapis mauve]

probably not for a while

a visual editor is gonna be a pain to make

[heady dock]

tomorrow

trust

[icy crow]

2-3 business days

[heady dock]

when silksong?

[neon marten]

2 - 3 business millennia

[icy crow]

2-3 business days

[heady dock]

when jokers?

[ashen prairie]

Pog?

As you can see, most of my cards revolve around shops

[rain mason]

morning has previously confirmed that enhancements and editions will eventually be added, with a built-in visual shader editor being planned :3

though, as others have stated, it's likely not going to be for a couple of weeks since they've also stated that editions specifically are low-priority due to how much time they'll take to properly implement

[woeful bough]

i feel like having a community shader uploader woudl be useful

that way an early editions can release and not necessarily NEED the shader editor

[heady dock]

having a joker forge discord could be useful for those kinda things so there doesnt need to be an entire system for that on the website
i usually dont like having seperate discords for mods and such usually but this is really big so it would kinda make sense

[ashen prairie]

Dude that's sooooooooo soon I can't wait

[rain mason]

^

[woeful bough]

he also said this earlier so he could do this instead

[umbral stag]

this would be nice imo

[woeful bough]

i feel like right now it is a large site* but of the people that contribute and actually consistently chat here and stuff is a small number

[umbral stag]

the shader editor is like one of the first things i asked to be added when i saw this thread, and it's going to be so peak

[umbral stag]

yeah, but that isn't the thing that matters. the main thing is that there are a ton people who have spoken in this channel at all

it's not really about active users, it's about how many users have interacted with the thread at all

[woeful bough]

how many people would upload custom shaders though

i mean i dont know how to code for shit, i just bring small ideas and bugs

[umbral stag]

not that many, but still likely over a dozen

and you also have to take into account that there will be people that upload way more shaders than anybody else

[woeful bough]

could be a seperate site

a simple site

but seperate

like how BMM has a database

[umbral stag]

i don't think it should be

[woeful bough]

didnt good morning say he doesnt really want to make a server because he doesnt use discord that much besides this

[heady dock]

hosting websites isnt cheap

[woeful bough]

oh

what about cloudflare

[heady dock]

could work but idk a lot about cloudflar so i cant say tbh

[woeful bough]

me neither thats why i asked

[heady dock]

well generally you have like 3 options for hosting websites (that i know of at least)

1. you pay some third party service to host your website for you on their service (cloudflare and the like, cheaper but more limited afaik)
2. you rent a server to host the website on yourself (expensive!)
3. you make the server yourself (expensive in the sense that youre basically just building a pc + upkeep/repair costs and all)

[woeful bough]

unless he still has his old pc

if you dont touch a pc it shouldnt break

well yeah things can go wrong

if he were to give his old pc like a 500 gig storage drive and make it a server

[heady dock]

if it helps understand

its extremely similar to hosting minecraft servers

only real difference being that it isnt minecraft and theres not really pre-built server software afaik

well there probably is but very different

[woeful bough]

this bug is weird

removing my rarities fixes the bug

[heady dock]

its because

it rolls the rarity

then rolls a joker to spawn

and because there are no remaining available jokers in the rarity it defaults to jimbo

[woeful bough]

but its common though?

[heady dock]

yes but all jokers default to jimbo

rarity is rolled first, then the specific joker

and if there is no available joker it defaults to jimbo regardless of rarity

[heady frost]

this is true but currently im still in the 'free' plan of vercel so aslong as i dont go over the limits i dont have to pay

[woeful bough]

is it a bug or just how the game works?

[heady dock]

its just how the game works

[woeful bough]

ok

[heady dock]

all card types have a default "fallback" card for if nothing can be spawned

[heady frost]

to give you guys a better timeline, in a couple of days from now you will be able to make simple consumables, i will add effects and bug fix for a couple days, then i will work on editions and enhancements being added. but the shader editor stuff will probably come much later in the editions lifespan

im tryna get stuff out fast but i am still just one guy haha. already really pleased with how fast and how much improvement the site has had already

[woeful bough]

so is there a plan for how shaders will be done

or is the idea for editions to just have them be an image

[heady frost]

i want a nice visual shader editor

with a bunch of parameters and sliders and colour wheels and whatnot

[woeful bough]

i meant before you finish it

since you said it would come later

[heady frost]

oh, it will still be a shader editor i think, just less configurable, probably just have some presets and some sliders you can mess around with, that kinda thing

i also want it to be '3D' in a way, where like in balatro you hover over the card and the card moves and shader moves along with it but i reckon that would be hard so i will see how that goes lol

[heady dock]

will seals also be added with editions and enhancements?

[heady frost]

yeah sure that makes sense

because functionally, they are all basically the same

and for reference, here are my current usage stats on vercel so im quite in the clear for now with server hosting

and i dont think i will ever need to go off of the free plan because no matter how big this gets, its still very niche

[ashen prairie]

The miracle of life

[ashen prairie]

Thank you for even doing this

[heady frost]

its my pleasure haha, i love making things like this and it gives me motivation to spend my time more productively

ive made quite big strides in consumables today but you probably wont see them for another day or two because i havent even touched code gen of consumables yet its been all frontend lol

[young relic]

alright i'm going critically insane again

i will learn how to use talisman's hypermult JUST for this one joke

[woeful bough]

wdym how to use?

oh

nvm

[young relic]

also these custom rarities are really REALLY nice

[heady dock]

almac

[young relic]

oops

[woeful bough]

bruh

ive spent like an hour trying to get jens almanac

there has to be a way

[rain mason]

quick question, has the probability function been updated to smods-0711a's rework yet?

[icy crow]

don't think so

[glass canopy]

cokeblock its cancelled

[woeful bough]

i know

im trying to use the wayback machine

but discord is just grey on it

[glass canopy]

don't

[woeful bough]

why?

[glass canopy]

its not really like allowed

[woeful bough]

wdym not allowed?

[glass canopy]

like by jen

[young relic]

i'm going too far now

god help me

[glass canopy]

wait are you making an almanac parody

[young relic]

this is just a single joker i wanted to do

and tested how far i can go

(this is more powerful than almanac's jimbo.)

[glass canopy]

wait how tf do you do tetration in joker forge

[heady dock]

add in post

[young relic]

i got a little bit of stepping stone FROM joker forge

[woeful bough]

i think tetration would be so hype in joker forge

i get most mods are meant to be vanilla balance

[heady dock]

atp might as well make a single hyperoperation effect

with a parameter

[nimble island]

Was tertartion

[woeful bough]

^^

[young relic]

there could be a "add Hypermult" with like
"Arrow Count"
"Chip/Mult val"

[woeful bough]

multiple powers

[nimble island]

K

[heady dock]

more specifically

its stuff to the power of itself

[nimble island]

:3

[young relic]

i just realize oxy puts this joker i made to SHAME

[woeful bough]

guys what references should i add

[young relic]

and it's supposed to be omega-overpowered

[heady dock]

whats the point of resetting multipliers back to 1 if you still cant die 😭

[woeful bough]

a mere tragedy

[young relic]

higher antes (at 32) causes this joker to create REALLY bad debuff jokers

[heady dock]

okay?????

[woeful bough]

you cant die tho :/

[young relic]

more specifically...

[heady dock]

yeah

[icy crow]

is there room for Celeste?

[heady dock]

that doesnt stop you from not being able to die

[woeful bough]

i forgor it existed and ive played it lol

ye sure

[heady dock]

oh wait nvm

[woeful bough]

immortality isnt mortal

[icy crow]

shit its not animate

d

[heady dock]

i didnt see the remove jokers when blind selected

[woeful bough]

lol

[icy crow]

here

[young relic]

(gonna figure out how to make it bypass eternal :3)

[heady frost]

im really struggling on how to abstract consumables like i did jokers

[woeful bough]

how did i find my own joker while playing cryptid with 0 rerolls on my second shop

[heady frost]

i think the plan of having just two triggers, can use and on use, is rather silly. because i realised code gen can just handle dynamically programming the can use function based on the conditions of the on use rule.

[heady dock]

why is it a thousand dollar its not even that much better than cryptid exponentia 🥀

[woeful bough]

it is temporary

when custom consumables are added

thats how youll get it

[woeful bough]

theyre equal

imo

[icy crow]

i mean you can focus on vanilla first.
for example

strength: " increases rank of up to 2 cards by one"
conditions: min x cards selected, max x cards selected
effects: edit highlighted cards

im kinda basing my suggestions on the system i mentioned previously

Hanged man: " destroy up to 2 cards"
conditions: min x cards selected, max x cards selected
effects: destroy highlighted cards

[woeful bough]

well i cant think of a consumables (besides ouijia maybe?) that would do, example, apply random enhancements to every card in hand

[heady dock]

so like just making it so that you cant use the consumable if all of the conditions on all effects are false? seems like a good system since it ensures that consumables cant be used if they would do nothing

[icy crow]

death: " left card into right card"
conditions: total x selected
effects: change x card(s) to y card

etc.

[heady frost]

yeah but triggers im having trouble with kinda thing

i get the conditions and effects i think, if x cards are selected, apply enhancement y

[woeful bough]

just bought a temperance for 3 dollars that gave me 2$ 🗣️

[heady frost]

maybe having just a trigger called "on use" and thats it

i mean, consumables really only technically have one trigger, when you use it

[icy crow]

true

[woeful bough]

observatory?

[icy crow]

total joker worth being 2$ on modded is diabolical

[woeful bough]

that was all i had

[icy crow]

should've bought your joker from the shop

smh smh

[woeful bough]

i did

its cryptid joker

[heady dock]

since theres only 1 trigger you could just remove the triggers entirely from the consumables editor

you would just need a different way to add effects

and even then you can put most things under a single trigger usually with consumables

[heady frost]

the consumables editor will literally be the same as the jokers editor, just with the block pallete filtered for consumables, thats the easiest way to do it. i will probably still have a trigger, just for visual consistency but it will be as simple as "on use"

really hyped to get this up and going

[heady frost]

another sneak peak (code generation still not implemented but frontend is looking decent)

frontend is basically done, might need some polish. now its just code gen left

i will probably launch it with a couple of conditions and effects so its not just random

[exotic quartz]

combining ranks doesn't apply rank-based effects?

[heady frost]

maybe its just making all ranks every rank is basically saying "make every rank itself"

[exotic quartz]

really?

is there a way to fix it?

[heady frost]

idek

probably but not in jokerforge, you will have to edit it yourself

combine ranks does apply rank based effects but maybe it bugs out when you make every rank every rank

[crude trail]

Reddit idea ahh moment

[neon marten]

I didn’t see anyone saying they would do it lol

So I did

[icy crow]

Can't wait for joker forge to support UI
-# (probably not planned)

[crude trail]

I had made a similar one a few days ago based on this idea

[heady frost]

cant wait for joker forge to support pleasuring my wife

[crude trail]

75 jokers of 100

[crude trail]

76 Jokers of 100

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

if a custom rarity could be placed

[heady frost]

really good point actually

ill add it to the github and i will add it when i get time to

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[heady frost]

making steady progress

theres still a lot to do, code gen is working but it only has 1 condition and 1 effect. you currently cant make sets yet and you currently cant select custom consumables to be selected for the effects in the joker editor

[olive agate]

what are you gonna make after custom rarities?

[heady frost]

this

custom consumables

if you meant after consumables, definitely editions/enhancements/seals

[olive agate]

ok then

[heady frost]

but i think i will be preoccupied with custom consumables for a good bit

[olive agate]

well i was gonna make "the stair away" when custom consumables are possible

[hidden oriole]

could just restart game, that removes him

[crude trail]

with inspiration

[olive agate]

i wish there was a way to make my mods compatible with other mods such as cryptid because of cryplib

[crude trail]

smiley and blob

[exotic quartz]

is there a way to set aces to other ranks? Both "A" and "Ace" cause instant crash on startup

[heady frost]

that is strange, i will look into this after consumables are released because right now my current version of the code gen system is completely different to the one youre using haha

[glass canopy]

14

[heady frost]

oh yeah

14

[exotic quartz]

it's 14?

[heady frost]

i hate how there are three different ways to deal with ranks in smods and different functions need different ways

get rank uses 14

[exotic quartz]

still crashing

[heady frost]

thi is a different issue is it not

does your joker have a weird name or something

[exotic quartz]

nope

[heady frost]

okay i will look into it after consumables have released then

who knows, it might have fixed itself by then, im rewriting a lot of the code gen as we speak to make room for consumables

[exotic quartz]

great

[crude trail]

THEY ALL WORK

[heady frost]

it just works(TM)

[sour spear]

2 smileys

[crude trail]

Blob is life

[exotic quartz]

so I've been designing a good deal of jokers to increase an internal variable, and basing the boosts around that variable. what I didn't realize is that copying jokers like Blueprint share those variables, causing them to scale twice as fast.

I have effectively compounded my Jerking ability

[pure ravine]

So what about Removing cards now that adding cards is in the website

[wild pier]

im joking it
im jimbing it..

oh god..

[rain mason]

alt name: misogyny

[olive agate]

we have the same idea

[austere swift]

well...

[wild pier]

the epik mod releases when joker forge adds play sound trigger

no wait effect

[wild pier]

bug: when i do two of the same trigger and edit it. it just turns gray and i keep losing my progress

[exotic quartz]

what the hell is that font

[austere swift]

another mod locked my font

idk why

[slate glen]

some day

[lapis mauve]

aikoyori's shenanigans maybe?

idunno i remember seeing that somewhere

[woeful bough]

id prefer a "change background music" effect

[wild pier]

i mean like

we need play sound with mult too

because i want fafa to scream at you when mult plays

[woeful bough]

ye but i cant think of any mods that do that

[heady dock]

Cryptid supercell joker plays a sounds when it activates

Thats all i can think of though

[exotic quartz]

why

I've deleted my mod and the game straight up won't load anymore

[heady dock]

Reinstall or verify game files again ig

Should fix it

[exotic quartz]

already verified and didn't work

[heady dock]

Reinstall the game then

[exotic quartz]

okay got balatro to launch again

tried making a joker that cycles scored suits, but it gets stuck on hearts

[lapis mauve]

If card suit = pride?

[exotic quartz]

figured it out

[sour spear]

edited the sprite

[neon marten]

rochas

one of the best Roblox ARGS in my opinion

[heady dock]

Well, there is a man here

[sour spear]

crazy

[spark patio]

Is there a way to make an effect that makes a specific suit act as any suit when a certain amount of that suit is part of the hand (example: if there's 1 diamond card played, that diamond acts as every suit)

[arctic chasm]

You can hook into is_suit

[wild pier]

tree :)

[wild pier]

are the cursed ones apart of a seperate mod or is it in flushtro

[sour spear]

its in flushtro

[heady dock]

Not in joker forge at least

You could do it passively but thats it

Not with a condition

[sour spear]

im currently working on the [enhancement, seal, or edition]-aholic jokers for the next major update

rn most of the enhancement, 1 edition, and 1 seal already got its own -aholic joker

[sour spear]

closest thing is wild card but idk if youre talking about playing card or jokers

[crude trail]

last test and if it works I will update my mod

[sour spear]

omg 100 jokers

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[nimble island]

consumable time?

i forgot the deal

[heady frost]

consumables are getting closer to release, ive had to basically re-code a lot of the code generation stuff to make room for consumables, but ive done it in a way where adding more stuff like editions and whatnot will be much, much easier now.

consumables are able to be full working, but they only have a single condition and a single effect at the moment, but they fully work

i just need to polish the ui and create the code generation for creating custom sets of consumables because its annoying if you can only make a tarot, planet, or spectral card

i wanna have atleast 3 conditions and effects for consumables when they drop, then i can quickly add more

then when a good amount are done, i will re-do the vanilla reforged page to also have consumables there

[low jasper]

HELL YEAH

[heady frost]

211 changed files for this release haha

[icy crow]

and i thought my 20 is much

[neon marten]

will you be able to make custom consumable types?

like, for different packs, if you ever add custom packs

[heady dock]

yes that was literally said like 6 messages ago lol

[neon marten]

sry

just saw ot

it*

[sour spear]

ngl i hope those buffoon packs we can edit to pick which jokers can appear in there and which one doesnt

[neon marten]

yeah lol

I also want a feature for all "make joker" things to have a toggle if only from your mod or not

I don't want to make all my jokers the same rarity

idk what the heck a planetary annihilation is

my profile says im playing it lol

[heady frost]

yes lol

code gen for custom consumable types has been added

now the only thing that is left is to fix all the frontend jank

and also make it so jokers now show your custom consumables for the required effects and conditions

like in the rulebuilder

[neon marten]

absolute balatro

[crude trail]

If you add the consumables for this weekend I will make more than 30 for 5 different types

[heady frost]

this project better get me a job at nasa or something goddam

[heady frost]

friday is looking like the release data for this stuff im not gonna lie

but im notoriously very bad at estimating when shit is meant to come out

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[sour spear]

also i wish we can give editions to jokers and not playing cards alone

[heady frost]

good point, ill add it to the checklist on the readme

[wild pier]

custom editions probably 2 weeks after consumables released

[heady frost]

maybe more. maybe less depending on how consumables goes

i could actually release consumables tonight but there might be some jank, for example, i need to edit the jokers stuff so you can create effects that spawn it

and custom boosters will probably be a bit later

but the quicker i sort all this out, the quicker custom boosters can be done

[lapis mauve]

okay i'll finally muster up enough courage to make an actual mod

i need a name tho

[sour spear]

i litteraly named my mod after a poker hand i mainly play

[icy crow]

🚽 tro

[lapis mauve]

flush

i love flushes

[glass canopy]

can you make it so range mode can be in-between 2 variables

[woeful bough]

take your time! we arent expecting a perfect system!

[heady frost]

fire idea actually, range in its current mode is quite limited

i will wait until alteast other things are done, then i will go back and refine all of the systems as like an endgoal

cant wait for you guys to see custom consumables, even if they will be pretty limited for the time being

theres no variable system for them, but tbh i dont know any consumables that would use them

[sour spear]

can we retrigger jokers 2 or times?

[woeful bough]

i think retriggering jokers would be nice

[lapis mauve]

how would i make this

🤔

cause target rank in combine ranks is a dropdown

so i would need to add like 14 of them

[woeful bough]

bingo

[glass canopy]

whenever i try to load the game with a joker of the new Rarity i made wow. it says "attempt to import j_spe_whatevertheidwas into an empty pool"

[round crow]

After exporting the mod, I'm receiving an error stating
'<name>' expected near '*'
Anybody know what could be causing this issue?

Pastebin of full crash log: https://pastebin.com/M82JyExh

Posting the full code in a sec

[heady frost]

youre better off sending me the exported mod json

like the joker forge json

[round crow]

Sure

[heady frost]

im currently not able to bug fix at the moment tho because i am in the middle of a big code gen rewrite for consumables, so theres no point in me fixing bugs until this is out because some bugs will already be fixed from within the update

but its still valuable ofc

[round crow]

There you go @heady frost

Noticed it is specifically an issue with the one titled "Arankneea"

[gusty flare]

ooo i have that day free so ill probably be having fun making consumables day one if it comes out

[heady frost]

thank you, i will take a look once consumables are out

i plan to do a lot of bugfixing then

[heady frost]

so hype guys

[heady dock]

hell yeah finally a random option in edit card

[heady frost]

nah i havent done that, this is specifcally consumable effects, unfortunately they cant share effects lol

[woeful bough]

Is there a plan to make placeholders separate for consumables

[heady frost]

yes but that will be after you get access to consumables

because using the joker placeholders is a bit silly

ideally i will have a placeholders separate for spectral, tarot, and planet too

currently im adding some more effects to consumables, then im gonna clean up the ui, and then its basically done and ready to be released

the good news is, all planet cards are replicable! (this is literally just the same effect lol)

[gusty flare]

Will we be able to make new consumable categories?

[heady frost]

yes

all that is already implemented too

[lilac yacht]

i can finally do my cursed Tarnetctral consumable

[gusty flare]

neat

[heady frost]

when it does drop, consumables will be lacking a bit in effects and conditions unfortunately, but over the weeks or so after release i will fix bugs and implement many more effects and conditions. like jokers, i want every vanilla consumable replicable and then some

[wild pier]

oh my god finally!!

i just woke up for school and see update plans

[heady dock]

consumasoon??

[wild pier]

editsoon??

boosoon?

poker soon??

meh maybe not poker hands

[heady frost]

poker hands eventually

[wild pier]

POKER SOON??

no wait..

POKER MAYBE??

[heady dock]

poker hands in 1 to 2 business years

[wild pier]

animated jokers in 5 years [probably]

[heady frost]

i wish i had a team at this point lmao

[heady dock]

years tomorrow

[heady frost]

cos that seems like the release schedule

[wild pier]

seals in 7 years

[heady frost]

considering that 2 weeks ago the site looked like this and was missing 60 vanilla jokers i say i did pretty good

this is from exactly two weeks ago too, june 2nd

[wild pier]

blinds in 12 years

enhancements in like 15 years

decks maybe

[heady dock]

i mean a lot of things have very similar code to existing stuff

[wild pier]

rate my jokers btw

i got addicted to overlays

[woeful bough]

Do you think it will be easier or harder

To make them all

[heady frost]

much, much easier

because consumables just straight up have less options you can do with them

honestly

i could drop consumables right now i think

(this is why whenever i give dates i know im innacurate)

give me like 10 minutes of quick checking and ill drop it

[woeful bough]

Silksong devs (they're lying):

[heady frost]

😈

[woeful bough]

Gta 6 and subnautica 2 aswell:

[heady frost]

okay i pushed the changes

[whole gust]

if only there were if/elif/else provided instead of generic compares

[heady frost]

you can do this with multiple rules of the same trigger

[whole gust]

how do you set which one triggers first?

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[heady frost]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/wiki/Creating-a-Joker-in-Joker-Forge#conditional-triggers-2-rules-with-the-same-trigger

[whole gust]

like if i want it to try elif#2 before elif#1, for example

[icy crow]

Good morning was first

[crude trail]

But I'm talking in the sense that I was the one who tried it.

[whole gust]

ex:

if card is king: do this first thing
else if card is hearts: do this second thing
else if card is lucky: do this third thing

with a 2 of hearts doing the second thing, and a lucky ace of hearts still doing the second thing

ie, prioritization of elifs

[gusty flare]

Update the description

[heady frost]

CONSUMABLES IS HERE, define your consumables with a preset set (tarots, spectrals, planets) or make your own custom set. then just like jokers, edit their rules and such. please let me know if anyone has any issues with this because this is still VERY early into consumables lifespan

[gusty flare]

Says only jokers at the moment

[heady frost]

ohhh i get you

yeah that isnt possible unfortunately

[heady frost]

so true

but you can only make very basic consumables at the moment

but i felt bad just developing in the background without people having input on the changes im making

[whole gust]

is that a limitation within balatro's code itself or just a jokerforge limitation

[crude trail]

You can raise your poker hand by multiplying it?

[woeful bough]

Does custom set include boosters yet or no?

[heady frost]

definitely a joker forge limitation, you can break out of the if statements if you are editing your code manually

[heady frost]

no, boosters will be harder and will come in the future but quite soon

because you kinda need custom boosters if you have custom sets

i might do it before editions

[whole gust]

gotcha, so theoretically i could just do most of it in JF but tweak the code outside of it

[heady frost]

and also i want to be able to add custom boosters outside of just custom sets, like making a booster but it only has rare jokers, or making a booster that has all three consumable types

[gusty flare]

ill wait until you pulish consumables and have started on boosters then

[whole gust]

do you have a kofi? i feel like throwing a mail in rebate's worth of cash at you

[heady frost]

that sorta stuff

[heady frost]

that is perfect, but the code right now has no way of grabbing that image specifically for tarots haha

[icy crow]

No problem

I'm still doing the others tho

I'm bored af

[gusty flare]

What does repeat as soul and hidden legendary mean

[heady frost]

oh shit i forgot to remove those from that modal lol. it is specifically if you want to make a "soul" consumable. hidden legendary will treat it as a soul and if its a soul, "can repeat as soul" makes it so you can have multiple within the same pack

i was meant to delete those checkboxes tho because its not fully integrated and its untested lol

[gusty flare]

You can get multiple souls in a single pack?

[icy crow]

just realized i used my brown spectral type instead of the tarrot one

[heady frost]

not with vanilla rules i dont think so, if you have showman you can tho. but smods provides an option for if you want your custom soul to be able to appear multiple times in the same pack without showman

[gusty flare]

oh i thought i misread that and its for making it on multiple boosters

[neon marten]

LETS GOOOOO

[heady frost]

over the next week or so ill refine consumables and add a bunch of new effects to them, then i will probably have to push back editions/enhancements/seals to make room for implementing boosters but that doesnt seem to be too difficult so dont worry lol

[neon marten]

The website means you could theoretically make a Balatro mod on a phone

lol

[heady frost]

you could technically make a balatro mod on your smart fridge

or on a 3ds

[neon marten]

Yeah lol

[heady frost]

or on an xray machine

[neon marten]

Or on an Oculus

I could try lol

[heady frost]

when jokerforge is able to do more, i might make a video making a balatro mod on like weird objects

as advertisement for joker forge

[heady frost]

i will be suprised if it works, range values are janky with consumables at the moment

things like range, variables, and gamevars will come after consumables have many effects and conditions

[crude trail]

ups

[heady frost]

this is probably the issue with range

[icy crow]

hmm

(i made them because i dont have my own placeholders)

(but yoy can use them)

[heady frost]

put this as an issue on the github repo with these images pretty please so i dont forget to not use them when the time comes

and thank you dearly for these

[icy crow]

when did the auto-upate-version branch happen

[heady frost]

like a week or two ago, but honestly i will probably scrap it because it didnt work lol

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[exotic quartz]

unintentionally ended up creating a cool niche for a Joker I made

[crude trail]

?? JUST END THE ROUND AND CRASH

[exotic quartz]

since scoring Negatives alone doesn't draw a hand, you can use them to stock up bullets without resetting the counter

[heady frost]

what are you tryna do

send json

variables, gamevars, random chance, and range values all are currently very shaky with consumables

[icy crow]

1 mb ?!?!

Wait you're 0.95kb short of 1mb

[slow hill]

Was messing around with some joker ideas and after realising I couldn't make it in joker forge I tried coding it myself, but it flopped

at least it didn't crash ig

[heady frost]

i will have a look in 5 mins, just tryna add these two new effects lol

but the issue im having making these two new effects might also fix the issue you are having

[olive agate]

@heady frost

[heady frost]

send json

[olive agate]

what do you mean?

[heady frost]

from the site, the "save mod" button

[olive agate]

yeah i know, i just didnt know at first until now

just hold on a sec

[heady frost]

i cant reproduce this crash, but if i had to guess, its because you have a bunch of the same consumable with the same key

[heady frost]

taking a look now

[crude trail]

Add those consumables after the error

[heady frost]

what did you do to get the crash

[olive agate]

well the N joker crashed the game when it tried to create a sly joker

[heady frost]

the sly joker key is wrong

i changed it to j_cavendish and it worked for me

meaning sly joker might use a different key

[olive agate]

i just typed in "j_sly_joker"

[heady frost]

it would be cool to eventually make it so when you select a specific joker, it comes up with a big list of all the jokers in the game along with their images

[heady frost]

yeah, internally it might be something else though

[crude trail]

I just finish the small blind and crash.

[heady frost]

did you use any consumables or do anything at all

[olive agate]

so that means i must typed "j_slyjoker" instead?

[heady frost]

yeah, that might work, you might have to look around to find what keys it is, sometimes jokers keys are annoying compared to their names for some reason

[crude trail]

i use my consumable

[heady frost]

my guess is it is related to a different mod that i dont have thats causing the crash, maybe try without talisman or something

also the level up hand effect is a bit buggy in general at the moment, ill add a disclaimer to the effect

[olive agate]

it crashed again

[autumn dove]

goodmorning cant speak

lmaoooooo

dw guys im here to help

yall @heady frost got timed out for a week so he cant speak here atm

but remember to report issues to the github repo https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge

or if youre encountering problems include json files!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[woeful bough]

How did bro get timed out

[autumn dove]

his most recent messages

[neon marten]

yeah idk lol

why

[autumn dove]

harmless joke in my humble opinion

or at least taken the wrong way

anyway im not getting involved

[woeful bough]

What did he say (in not bad way)

[autumn dove]

anyways

custom consumables got added idk if yall know

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[woeful bough]

The one day im not home lol

[sleek dock]

editions and enhancements and seals and stickers when

[autumn dove]

send the json file too idk if he needs it but im sure he will investigate the matter

[olive agate]

k just hold on

[icy crow]

Can't wait to read every crash log, identify the error, pinpoint it to the part of rule builder and then make an issue on GitHub

For every crash

For a week straight

Well at least goodmorning has a well earned break (at least from this channel)

[heady frost]

im back

mods removed my timeout

[autumn dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[heady frost]

[autumn dove]

yeah i made some calls

i know localthunk personally

[heady frost]

yeah hes a high school friend we go way back

we are so back

[heady frost]

looking at this now

also i forgot to announce i added two new effects to consumables, destroy cards in hand and destroy selected cards

[olive agate]

i noticed

[heady frost]

where were you getting a crash, what were you doing in game for it to crash

[olive agate]

maybe cryptid is overriding the code

i'm not sure though

[sour spear]

can you add where you can change how rare will the consumable appear

[heady frost]

its tied to its set, you can change the set rarity but not individual unfortunately

[sour spear]

cool

[heady frost]

i think the only consumable that breaks that is "the soul" but thats handled completely differently

[uneven hedge]

will you add destroying cards in hand as a joker effect too?
-# unless thats already there and im dumb

[heady frost]

good point, its not already there, just the "destroy scored card" effect

but it will be a completely different approach to how consumables do it because smods make it so convoluted on how to destroy stuff lol

[ashen prairie]

OH LAWD ITS HERE

[sour spear]

will you add the filter from the joker reforge to the mod joker page so we can see which has that rarity or even which one doesnt has rules and which one hasnt had their placeholder texture changed

[ashen prairie]

Not fleshed out yet but still an amazing update nonetheless! Thank you so much for making this!

[heady frost]

i get what you mean, sure, ill do that after im done adding a bunch of effects for a few days

can you guys give me big lists of effects and conditions for consumables

[sour spear]

create joker

[hidden oriole]

so if i want to make joker create specific joker, is this right way to do it?

[heady frost]

yeah, that should be correct if your mod prefix is tf2testm and your joker key is theumbrelaman

added the double dollars effect and add sell value of jokers to dollars effect to consumables btw

[heady frost]

my pleasure, its been a good journey

[hidden oriole]

i also have custom rarity, can you m ake that when using "create joker" effect by rarity you could use custom one

[heady frost]

no unfortunately not, i missed it when adding custom rarities, i will sort it out tomorrow though because its priority

the same with creating consumables and allowing your custom consumables to be in that list

[hidden oriole]

i really wanted for one of my jokers to use specific tarot but realised it could use custom ones right now, same with no custom rarities

[woeful bough]

When are boosters packs planned?

[heady frost]

my bad haha

[heady frost]

in a week or two once consumables are in a better state

and then after booster packs are done i will have a look at editions enhancements and seals

[uneven zenith]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/164

[umbral stag]

small discrepancy related to the new consumable rule builder
https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/165

[woeful bough]

Making a balatro mod without jokers is a microscopic occurrence

[umbral stag]

now that consumables are added, not really

as more types of items are added, this would become more common

[spark patio]

IDK if this is in the joker forge, but is there a way to make it so that blind skipping can trigger random hand level ups?

[woeful bough]

Yes

[spark patio]

would that just be accomplished with poker hand variables

[woeful bough]

No?

I gotta check

[spark patio]

I think pretty much any non-hand played condition does not have this function

[uneven zenith]

I just did it.

[lyric cradle]

w consumable update

[lapis mauve]

Oh wow consumables are here?

Awesome

I see you grouped consumables and consumable sets

Maybe you can group rarities and jokers aswell

Also arent the “tarot”, “planet” and “spectral” shaders all just the generic shine?

[heady dock]

its just j_sly im pretty sure

[limpid robin]

Is there any way to do this in the consumable editor?

[wild pier]

custom consumable cant be spawned yet in jokers

[low jasper]

i just woke up and then i see CONSUMABLES!!!!!

[wild pier]

i will make bloke have a random chance to summon lad

[low jasper]

question: will you add custom boss blinds to joker forge in the future?

[wild pier]

also making lad have a random chance to destroy itself and spawn blood splatter joker that i made

[hidden oriole]

i reported already

[nimble island]

I wish it could spawn our custom rarities so i could see them not from debug plus

[hidden oriole]

reported that too

[arctic chasm]

If you dont specify a weight on your rarity nothing will spawn iirc

[autumn dove]

went into McDonald's asking if the ice cream machine was working and they said "yeah do you want some mate" and I was like you fucking what mate and I decked the bloke right there and then