Joker Forge - Create Balatro Mods Visually and Export the Lua Files (WIP)

[woeful bough]

bloodstone woke up

[sour spear]

when will last hand of the round trigger will be coming

[woeful bough]

look at dusk on vanilla reforged

you can already do iut

[sour spear]

ahhh alright

the duality

[arctic chasm]

There should be a Boolean Variable imo

this should have "not contains"

[woeful bough]

you can do that

[arctic chasm]

how so?

[arctic chasm]

Oh wow that ain't really noticeable lol ty

It's weird to have a "not equals" then if this exists

[woeful bough]

not not equals, duh

common english

/j

BRUH

[lapis mauve]

yeah i do think the invert icon is really unnoticable

and even if you do notice it it's understandable people dont know what it does

[woeful bough]

could be why not equals is there

[arctic chasm]

Honestly my first impression was that it deleted the block

[lapis mauve]

yeah

what about this

[arctic chasm]

Do message in custom message support colours?

[lapis mauve]

i don't think so

[arctic chasm]

Would be a nice plus

[lapis mauve]

yeah

[arctic chasm]

Variable are ordered alphabetically it seems? It screws up with the loc_vars order I want

[neon marten]

this made 2 of the joker for some reason

[arctic chasm]

For some reason using the negation in Joker Forge adds a double negation?

If I disable the negation I have 0 "not"

[icy crow]

uhhh

[arctic chasm]

Despite this double negation and a few manual loc_vars change I had to make, it sure is a nice tool to make somewhat simple jokers (this one is kinda slightly more difficult due to the active system). I know I don't have to expect the moon from this project.

[woeful bough]

one of my placeholders spotted

[sour spear]

the create joker thing didnt work

[heady frost]

whoopsie daisys

im gonna be refining code gen today quite a bit

[icy crow]

.

Please 🥺

[heady frost]

all ui related bugs will be solved when i create and deploy the ui so dont worry about those just yet

[sour spear]

ngl im trying to make the first card fake out and turn into the 2nd card but the create thing didnt work

[arctic chasm]

If you could look into adding this too, it could be useful for conditions

[heady frost]

i will change it when i do the ui stuff

[heady frost]

i thought about that, but realistically you can just use 1 and 0

[woeful bough]

alternate?!?!?!?!

[heady frost]

set variable 1, if variable 1

but i probably will add it when i redo the ui

[arctic chasm]

You could, but mod like Cryptid exists where they change the integer values inside a config table

Say my joker is common, I play beige deck now my 1 is a 4

[heady frost]

didnt think of that, good point

[sour spear]

i made it also have eternal and rental

[heady frost]

actually, i might aswell wait until i do all the new ui stuff to do the codegen because the codegen will be influenced by how i set up the ui

[woeful bough]

probably gonna remaster the art on mine

kinda bad

it looks like an alternate

but its bad

[heady frost]

like if i change the way that variables are created, i might aswell wait until thats done before changing the code gen stuff

but i have a lot of web design to do, if anyones wondering, this was the evolution of the rule builder lol

[woeful bough]

thats sick

[woeful bough]

can i use it (with credit)?

[sour spear]

sure

[woeful bough]

thx!

[woeful bough]

will a "leftmost joker" be added to copy ability?

[heady dock]

Thats the same as position 1

[woeful bough]

sorry

i meant rightmost

[heady dock]

And if you wanted rightmost you would put joker count into the position parameter

[woeful bough]

make it free and give you plus onme joker slot so buying it doesnt change it

so he can just chill

and people wouldnt mind having it

[low jasper]

basically the partner mod but just useless

[sour spear]

i did

[woeful bough]

the description should say that

[woeful bough]

bro my friend is going crazy rn

[sour spear]

should i release the mod tommorow

[woeful bough]

BET

[heady frost]

probably after the ui update + the code generation update

[uneven hedge]

is there a way to loop or trigger something twice? since adding 2 of the same effect like this doesn't work for me (it only generates 1 tag)

[woeful bough]

estimate?

[arctic chasm]

Try copying the rule instead of the effect?

[heady frost]

designing the ui now, probably will take a few days to overhaul it all and make it nice, then a few more days of bugfixing and updating the code gen, then i can start looking at consumables

i want to get the ui right this time so lots of my future time isnt wasted trying to sort it

what would people say to changing the jokers to be just the image, then on hover you get information like this. instead of it all just being there

or do you guys prefer it when its all just there as it is

[woeful bough]

i prefer how it is now

[sour spear]

it looks cool

[woeful bough]

also how in the world is seeing double uncommon and photgraph is common 😭

i just realized

how bad of logic that is

[lapis mauve]

What if you make it look kinda like the ingame collection?

[heady dock]

That doesnt work, only one trigger per context per joker

[heady dock]

seeing double is after scoring so you get more chance for flat mult ig? photo isnt that crazy if your base hand mult is low

[sour spear]

would be nice to seperate lines to make it more cleaner like:

'+4 mult',
' ',
'(must have room)'

also to add empty lines to the joker description

[woeful bough]

...

[lapis mauve]

What the

[sour spear]

erm

gyulp

[lapis mauve]

Sus

Amogus

[woeful bough]

its just a joker, nothing familiar. its deja vu.

[lapis mauve]

Yeah, sure..

[arctic chasm]

Either their method or mine, it seems that when you try to spawn an object, it returns the calculate, which seems unecessary in the first place

Oh nvm seesm like it's trying to add into extra

[heady frost]

jokers can have multiple rules with the same trigger, it generates it conditionally

[sour spear]

would be cool to edit joker properties effect like change its sticker, or add it polychrome

[heady dock]

yeah and this is an unconditional effect, so that wouldnt solve the issue

the issue is only one tag spawning when there should be 2

[heady dock]

only one rule in each trigger can activate at a time, so if you duplicated the rule it would absolutely be giving 1 tag

[arctic chasm]

Yea I saw, separate similar cond have 2 returns

[uneven hedge]

it crashes the game actually lol

[heady dock]

thats odd

shouldnt do that

[heady frost]

this is the general idea for the new jokerspage

[sour spear]

wowwie

[lapis mauve]

Looks super clean

[sour spear]

wish this can be added

[lapis mauve]

Would like the delete icon to be inside the box too

[heady frost]

[s]

[lapis mauve]

Hm?

Yeah

That’s what i was thinking

[s] adds a line break

[heady dock]

theres literally a new line button wdym

[sour spear]

i know

[heady dock]

and if you want an empty line just put 2??

[sour spear]

😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋

[heady dock]

what

[heady frost]

does this work

it should do

[heady dock]

and if it doesnt put a space between the line breaks so the game thinks theres text on the empty line

[sour spear]

it didnt

i tried both and no success

[heady frost]

i will look into this

ill add it as an issue to the github

[sour spear]

also shift enter on description can break the game cause of no [s]

[woeful bough]

i think it would look nicer if it all used the same font

*not through the entire site, but specifically in previews like that menu show

[heady frost]

i thought about this, you may be correct because the joker card uses the balatro font

but this was before i refined the edit joker info modal to have a nicer preview

[crude trail]

one more joker and the help for the Ace's ends

I have 3 other ace jokers but they are missing touch ups.

[woeful bough]

not a bug

[sour spear]

weird

[woeful bough]

no?

[elfin nest]

Oo kewl!

[woeful bough]

the games code uses [s] as line seperators but using shift+enter means you entered a new line without using [s] which breaks the code

[sour spear]

now that kinda make sense

[heady frost]

actually insane

@elder carbon pretty please pin the message below, it is the url for joker forge

https://jokerforge.jaydchw.com/

[pearl path]

Technically they'd only be almost useless, as some jokers have effects based upon joker count, or total joker money value.

[heady dock]

and if it gets negative its +1 joker slot

[pearl path]

Yes, and that's not including other possible modded effects.

[woeful bough]

a dance of fire and ice

[icy crow]

oh god the memories

[woeful bough]

just beat the game recently

and the DLC

super fun

and i tried making one!

[woeful bough]

i have made balancing chips/mult but not ig

deltarune next!

[heady frost]

are you guys fucking with this version or nah

[woeful bough]

CLEEEEANNNNNN

[heady frost]

i take that as a yes 💯

[nimble island]

Neat

[lapis mauve]

Very nice

[nimble island]

wait what changed

[woeful bough]

WHAT

Eao.

[nimble island]

still not a huge deal but it looks nice

[uneven hedge]

uhh
anything that spawns an orbital tag has the orbital tag crash the game when exiting the shop

[icy crow]

i bet it spawn it without data

[uneven hedge]

yea it just says [poker hand]

[heady frost]

whoopsie daisy

i will add it to the github

[olive agate]

is there an option to upgrade all hands?

[heady frost]

maybe? i cant remember lol

if not just spawn the black hole planet card instead haha

[olive agate]

i wish there was also a ^^chips or ^^mult and ^^^chips or ^^^mult too

[sour spear]

holy exponents

[heady frost]

i gutted the sidebar

i will make one big update when the ui is all done instead of drip feeding changes. will be a few days before this happens though, but i will show previews and stuff

[woeful bough]

is it a open/collapse menu?

not having text that says what it is could be confusing for some people

[heady dock]

if that gets added probably just turning the ^mult and chips effects into exponential/hyperoperative effect where there is a parameter for the operator

that seems like it would make the most sense at least

[heady frost]

wait and see, its very fire

[nimble island]

is this ai or just a smooth picture

[woeful bough]

its him

thats the image the placeholder is based off of

[autumn dove]

its how ai imagined me

[woeful bough]

oh

[icy crow]

Nah there are Minecraft planks

It has to be real

[heady dock]

the headphones have noclip 💀

[woeful bough]

if there is a space in a joker name, is it one word in the joker key on or two

like is it J_modname_word1_word2 or
J_modname_wordall

[heady dock]

its one word

[woeful bough]

ok

[icy crow]

#💻・modding-dev message

[woeful bough]

if there are symbols are those there or not>

[icy crow]

New SMODS update just dropped

[woeful bough]

symbols or no?

[icy crow]

Small j

Mod prefix not mod name

good morning will you update the oops all 6's code gen based on the new context.mod_probability?

The notes on the release on GitHub show this implementation of oops all 6's

if context.mod_probability and not context.blueprint then
    return {
        numerator = context.numerator * 2
    }
end

[woeful bough]

also using joker count for rightmost doesnt work

[heady dock]

i assume it doesnt update after you buy it then is my best guess

[woeful bough]

this joker breaks when i play a hand

like it crashes the game

[icy crow]

whats the joker name

[woeful bough]

i got it working

[icy crow]

@heady frost sorry for the ping just wanted to make sure you don't miss it

[woeful bough]

the deltarune ones are finally done

[heady frost]

just woke up, new SMODS is out

I will rush through this UI stuff and start overhauling code gen for it

[woeful bough]

is retroactive scaling possible RN?

[heady frost]

by using a game variable instead of tracking it yourself yes

[woeful bough]

ok

[heady frost]

look at fortune teller in vanilla reforged

[icy crow]

the new context in the release are fire

[gusty vapor]

Have you implemented chance to not trigger yet :3?

[heady frost]

you can do random chance stuff already, don't know if the new stuff with SMODS works with it currently tho lol

[icy crow]

if it uses G.GAME.probabilities.normal then no

i mean it should work because of the backwords compat for some time

but not long lived

[heady frost]

I'll get to work on changing it then after this UI is done

I might quickly finish what I've been doing with the UI and get to work on the code gen

I'm awake now I might as well do work

[pure ravine]

Isn’t there a value increasing effect like the oil lamp in crypted?

[icy crow]

that's a cryptid thing iirc

[woeful bough]

Like it's custom coded?

[heady dock]

idk how it actually works but logically it would just modify all the internal variables of jokers

which means that all jokers that support it would have to use variables for everything

[woeful bough]

Wouldn't be too hard

*I mean to adjust too, not to code

Like using variables for everything

[heady dock]

modifying variables of other jokers probably could be added, its just that it wont work with most other mods

because most mods dont have it in mind at all

[woeful bough]

They dont have ^mult in mind either

[icy crow]

it calls a custom function Cryptid.manipulate which is here

[woeful bough]

Mod specific things dont work but my jokers are already so unbalanced (most of them) fit into cryptid

[heady dock]

^mult doesnt interact with anything else though so thats not an issue at all

besides the power creep part

but thats not my point

[woeful bough]

I get what your saying

If it gets added I'd specify "multiply values of all cokelatro jokers"

[heady dock]

i mean cryptid doesnt specify it either

its just that

i dont see any reason to add it to joker forge anytime soon

because its not really that important +all the other stuff with it

[icy crow]

you can add it yourself in a text editor 👀

[heady dock]

if that gets added we would probably need to get the ability to create boolean variables

since currently you would just use 1 and 0 in joker forge which would break if you had stuff changing it

[heady frost]

yeah for sure

ui update should be out shortly, im rushing it to get to code gen (what really matters)

[woeful bough]

Idk what a boolean variable is :/

[heady frost]

true or false

instead of using 1 and 0 as numbers

[woeful bough]

Oh

Aren't those the same thing in practice?

[heady frost]

basically, a lot of programming languages use 0 and 1 under the hood for bools anyways

but particularly if we had an effect that changed numbers

if it were bools, it wouldnt change

[heady dock]

yes but it wouldnt break when being modified from outside sources in this specific case

[woeful bough]

Ohh

So true in false instead of 1 and 0 stops it from breaking?

[heady frost]

yeah because if you had another joker that added +2 to every value, the checks to see if a value is 1 would be wrong because it is now 3

[woeful bough]

Thats what I figured

I get it

Would it be a hard change?

[heady frost]

not necessarily, probably like a day to add bool variables

it would require a new condition "check bool" or whatever, and a new effect "change bool"

[crude trail]

I made 12 jokers related to the Ace

Now this is my new fear

[woeful bough]

Hey you have a ant tenna card skin!

[crude trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[crude trail]

cool art

https://github.com/Dogg-Fly/Another-Stupid-Balatro-Mod/releases/tag/v2.3 update my mod with the new Jokers for those who want to play it

[heady sky]

Working on a card effect, will this effect look specifically for a Queen of Spades in hand, or will it look for both any Queen and any Spade?

So like, hypothetically would it trigger if a Queen of Hearts and 2 of Spades were both held in hand

[heady frost]

it will trigger only if its a Queen of Spades

if you click the 'and' you can make it an 'or'

or if you want it to trigger for every queen but only if they are spades or hearts, you can create a new condition group for the suits

[heady sky]

gotcha gotcha

[heady frost]

ui update is out, let me know what u guys think. didnt change the rulebuilder much outside of the colours because i want to get started on all the code generation fixes. i did add functionality to view and edit the joker key though so thats cool

[crude trail]

I'm still with the old UI

[heady frost]

refresh the page

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[crude trail]

caroline 😭

[olive agate]

thats my mom

[crude trail]

🔥

[young relic]

i have so many unbalanced shitpost jokers in my mod holy

prime examples being

[crude trail]

beg for mercy

[olive agate]

btw, the ones that didnt have a design is "sketchpad", "photo copier" and "quantum dice"

[olive agate]

refresh the page

[spark patio]

is there a way to increase the amount of lines that show up on the jokers descriptions (like, previewing it not like actually making linebreaks)

[sour spear]

i have a joker that gives 1 mult
"what the hell do i do with 1 MULT???"

[wheat jetty]

when i do this the xmult and the money appear on the joker instead of the card

[heady frost]

the preview is meant to be as close as possible as to what is in game

[heady frost]

i think this is intended behaviour? i will investigate

[olive agate]

i have updated it

[crude trail]

My mod is now available on BMM if you want to be always up to date btw

[sour spear]

bro where did my jokers in my collection go

😢

heres the json

[elfin nest]

Welcome to the internet

[elfin nest]

Oh my

[woeful bough]

is that a good or bad oh my?

[icy crow]

you didn't even have to search for it

its on the first page

if sorted A-Z (aka. default)

[heady dock]

you mean like adding a permanent bonus to the card?

[sour spear]

why does my jokers not show in my collection 😢😢😢

only 1 loaded

[woeful bough]

are they in the json?

[sour spear]

yeah

[woeful bough]

my jokers broke once

just delete and redownload

[sour spear]

i tried

still same problem

[wheat jetty]

like the popup that says "+10" in a diamond

[lapis mauve]

Looked at it and it looks good

[wheat jetty]

its meant to appear above the card

[heady dock]

ohhh the message

yeah idk then

[sour spear]

huh why is almost every joker this??

unkown_joker????

no wonder they arent showing

[woeful bough]

could be because jokers can have custom keys now

[lapis mauve]

yeah

that could be it

[sour spear]

dang

[woeful bough]

change the key of all your jokers

might work

[sour spear]

ok opening every joker worked

any joker that hasnt been looked with edit info since joker key update doesnt show in the collection

also wish (date created least to greatest or vise versa) can be added to filter

[lapis mauve]

by the way, how hard is it to make custom rarities?

that would be a nice feature to have

[icy crow]

SMODS.Rarity {
    key = "plant",
    loc_txt = { name = "Plant" },
    badge_colour = HEX("199e19")
}

[lapis mauve]

i mean yeah but like

for the code gen

[icy crow]

i imagine the hardest part would be either weights that it appears in the shop or displaying the rarities in other places of the site

[lapis mauve]

probably yeah

[icy crow]

the 2nd one i see a solution that there is a place in the json rarities are stored and the site reads that part each time it needs to display a rarity

[sour spear]

i wanna do this with cursed jokers
i have 2 that i wanna do which is
debt collector (debuffs your mult and chips when in debt)
alternate smiley (fakeout joker that debuffs mult)

[heady frost]

maybe the key system is broken whoops

are all your jokers named new joker

I'm awake now, give like an hour or so to get out of bed then it's time for bug fixing

[sour spear]

i fixed it by just opening the info of the jokers

another bug

[lapis mauve]

it should also remember if autoformatting is turned on or off

for whenever you open a card again

[icy crow]

talisman?

[sour spear]

i have cryptid mod on

[heady dock]

yeah but talisman is the issue here

[sour spear]

weird

[heady dock]

bignum and omeganum do wierd stuff with tables to make bigger numbers afaik

and apparently that breaks here

[heady frost]

maybe when you imported all your old jokers, because the backend no longer generates the keys, the info modal does, none of them had keys and they all had unknown joker. and if two jokers share the same key it breaks and doesn't show up

[heady frost]

not everything is talisman compatible at the moment

i will see if I have time today to try and make more shit talisman compat

[peak yew]

hi, I'm making a joker that subtracts $20 but it won't do that even with a custom negative variable. Did something changed with the latest update? (also if I add a money condition the game crashes)

[heady dock]

yeah money doesnt support negative currently

also do you have talisman installed?

[sour spear]

closest thing is rental

im craving for custom rarities

[left galleon]

Four Chad: retrigger first played card four additional times

[heady dock]

Hanging Fingers: all straights and flushes can be made with 2 cards

[sour spear]

baron triboulet: all kings held in hand and kings played give 3x mult

[peak yew]

yes

[heady dock]

yeah that explains the crash, not everything works with talisman properly right now

[peak yew]

the fact is that another joker made before the update works just fine and it subtracts $25

[heady dock]

the money condition crashes

not the subtracting

[heady dock]

same thing as what happened here

[heady frost]

working on fixes now, by the end of today hopefully the code generation will be much more robust and easier to implement on. if i have time at the end of the day i will look at adding custom rarities. i also want to change the code gen up so that each joker gets its own file

[sour spear]

wowwie

cursed rarity is real

[woeful bough]

cryptid reference

[wild pier]

spontaneous combustion

[sour spear]

i wish the misprint text can be added to joker description

and also fix the numerator and denominator variable being nil

[woeful bough]

he did

[sour spear]

dang really

alrighty then 😋

[heady frost]

some things may be a bit broken throughout today, doing some major changes to the code quality and code generation in preparation for more features lol

[woeful bough]

ok

[heady frost]

and i will try and make it all talisman compatible while im at it

also is everyone fucking with the new ui

[woeful bough]

i think having 3 or 4 jokers visible would be nice

probably 3 to fit descriptions

[sour spear]

yeah that would be cool

also i wish the game over trigger will have more effects other than saving from death

since i wanna pair saving from death with effects like destroy itself to be either one use or limited number of uses

and editing variable

[woeful bough]

i want a feature that "if final played hand of round is straight flush and you lose, it revives you

like it registers what your previous hand was

basically the "if played hand has already been played" but for game overs

[heady dock]

could you set a poker hand variable to the played hand in a hand played trigger maybe?

[heady frost]

good point i will make it so on larger screens there is three

[low jasper]

do you know when your gonna add deck making support?

[woeful bough]

Custom rarities are gonna be so hype

Because some of mine are planned to become "trancendant'

But that will probably be after consumables are added cuz in order to make a new joker come from a spectral card it has to, you know, have a spectral card

[heady frost]

after consumables and editions/enhancements

just got finished cleaning up the code ready for rapid fire bug fixing

refactoring the way locvars work as we speak so hopefully the code generated will be much, much cleaner

[woeful bough]

Will consumables have their own boster packs with them?

*if they aren't tarot, planet, or spectral I mean

[icy crow]

Better question
Does the consumable creation include custom consumable types or just consumables assignable to the default types

[woeful bough]

That's the same question just worded better

[icy crow]

Ehh

You asked about booster packs

[woeful bough]

Under it

[heady frost]

custom consumable types yes with custom boosters too

that is the plan

[lapis mauve]

We should have a seperate option for booster packs

[heady frost]

this is what im currently working on

here is the current system in pseudocode
get all effects/conditions for rules (extracteffectsconfig function in index).
go through a manually edited list of valid effects, adding them to config extra if present
generate locvars function generates its loc vars based on those effects, as well as other things like probability
generate actual effect code

new system
generate calculate function stuff first, going through each effect/condition
each individual effect/condition file returns a ConfigExtraVariable with a string and a value (chips = 10, mult = 4, etc.)
once calculate function is done, get all of these and put them in config extra and put them also in loc vars.

[lapis mauve]

What program do you use for the concept ui?

Might make some myself

[heady frost]

figma

[icy crow]

You're too fast

I wanted to say paint ofc

[crude trail]

I am having a problem, the balatro does not recognize more than half of the jokers, I have already rebooted and extracted and still only about 10 or a little more of the 57 jokers that I have are loaded

[heady frost]

figma balls in your mouth

[heady frost]

send the json

[woeful bough]

Give all of them custom keys

[neon marten]

I use canva these balls fit in your mouth

[heady frost]

if you reopen the edit joker info modal it should do it for you

[woeful bough]

Yea

Same thing broke for me

[heady frost]

its because the code generation no longer generates keys for you, the frontend does that now and sends it off to backend to use. so when you import something from the old ui, the jokers dont have keys associated with them because they never had the chance to generate it in the frontend and now the backend doesnt do it automatically, so they default to 'uknown_joker' or whatever

this is my big joker forge figma file

[icy crow]

porting to new system with no backwards compat

smh my head

[heady frost]

unforseen consequences but i can get away with it because joker forge is not 1.0 yet 😈

[lapis mauve]

can i steal it

sorry

may i please borrow it

[woeful bough]

First version looked like scratch

[crude trail]

Spoiler UI alert

[heady dock]

convert all your health into shield

[lapis mauve]

i'd like to try and make some concepts for some other tabs if that's okay

[heady frost]

https://www.figma.com/design/OS3MiQprrb6Aopm42wy261/Joker-Forge?node-id=0-1&t=5Z9AJec1BvTnLB58-1 go wild

you can copy things into your own project

[lapis mauve]

thank you

ooh this is live

[heady frost]

yeah its pretty cool, i think figma is industry standard for ui design

idk im not a designer lol

[lapis mauve]

well it looks very cool

[icy crow]

🔥

[heady frost]

the original idea was for it to be styled like the shop from balatro lol

[woeful bough]

Wee

[heady frost]

but i couldnt think of a good way to do it

[heady dock]

wee

[lapis mauve]

also reminder again that the rarity buttons in the text styling arent neccesary

[heady frost]

lmao this was so i can get the specific hex colours that balatro uses

[icy crow]

isn't it in the code 😭

[lapis mauve]

i think so

[heady dock]

i mean it has to be but you also have to know where in the code

[lapis mauve]

goodmorning can you point me to where the newest version is

[icy crow]

\

[woeful bough]

I use them

[lapis mauve]

i mean yeah but they're the same color as red, blue, green and purple

[woeful bough]

Oh

I thought you meant the background

Like legendary bg

[lapis mauve]

i'm assuming this "desktop 10" is the latest version

looks about the same

[icy crow]

G.C has a rarity section

[lapis mauve]

desktop 9 i mean

i don't recognise desktop 10

[icy crow]

looks nice tho

[lapis mauve]

true

i do think i prefer the current one

[icy crow]

for you goodmorning i can say that the G.C color definitions are in globals.lua starting at line 353
and the colors in the loc_txt are in misc_functions.lua starting at line 1494

[lapis mauve]

actually wait i'm confused

[icy crow]

?

[lapis mauve]

which one is the latest version @heady frost

[icy crow]

you don't have to know

[lapis mauve]

i want to

so i can make a concept for a deck tab

[hidden oriole]

something AAA company would do

[crude trail]

I join the figma just out of curiosity

[heady frost]

the far right i believe

[woeful bough]

Besides call of duty

[neon marten]

You know what that would actually go hard, a block code option

[heady dock]

i mean a more scratch like system is probably going to be added at some point

[neon marten]

wee

Yeah

[heady dock]

i just dont know when

[woeful bough]

It is block coding?

[neon marten]

Basically

But scratch is

[woeful bough]

I use scratch

[neon marten]

And they’re still different

Same

[woeful bough]

I like joker forges system better

[crude trail]

Correction creates a negative copy of itself

[olive agate]

is there a way to may all probobilities scale?

[woeful bough]

if i do this will wild cards work with it?

[heady dock]

what do you mean by make probabilities scale

[olive agate]

well an example like this "Gains 0.2 probability per money hit on lucky cards"

[heady dock]

well make a variable

and then

put that into a chance effect

just like you would make any other scaling effects

[olive agate]

i mean like an effect similar to oops all 6s but scales

[heady dock]

uhhhhhhh

i dont think joker forge has switched to the new probabilities system yet so you cant do additive probabilities

but when that gets added you will probably be able to do what you want

just not yet though

[olive agate]

ok

[icy crow]

if the new context will be added as triggers then it would be possible i think

[heady dock]

new context?

[icy crow]

context.pseudorandom_result

[heady dock]

ohhh okay

[heady dock]

oh that

i was talking about like

additive probability stuff

and just modifiying probabilities in a way that isnt just the oops effect

which isnt possible in joker forge yet either

[icy crow]

"Gains 0.2 probability per money hit on lucky cards"
i thought of the context because of this example they gave

[heady dock]

this later turned out to be a hoax

[crude trail]

I missed this joker for the Ace

[heady frost]

code gen refactor is doing well

will be out in maybe a couple of hours (hopefully)

[icy crow]

gl !

[heady frost]

i am also changing it so now jokers get their own file per joker in a /jokers folder

in preparation for more custom stuff

and also removing the useless config file

[icy crow]

organisation!

[crude trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[heady dock]

acrobat if it was even worse

[crude trail]

I don't know what I am doing wrong but it crashes all the time.

[nimble island]

the brackets?

[lapis mauve]

why are there brackets there yeah

[icy crow]

j_<mod prefix>_<joker name without any spaces and all small letters>

[crude trail]

like this? j_<anothers>_<rommiejoker> or j_anothers_rommiejoker

[woeful bough]

50released

[icy crow]

j_anothers_rommiejoker

[crude trail]

thanks

[heady frost]

code generation overhaul is out, you probably wont notice too much of a difference because its a lot of backend stuff now but trust me its better lol

let me know if anyone finds any bugs, im gonna go and squash a couple from the github now but a lot of them might already be fixed with the new system + maybe more bugs come up

[woeful bough]

possible when?

[heady frost]

after all the bugfixes maybe

but my sights are more set on custom rarities after bugfixes

[woeful bough]

nice

[heady frost]

so to do that joker you might just need to edit the code yourself

but i think it will be an easy edit

[woeful bough]

9 new jokers added in v2.8!

ik it says 35 but theres 50 :/

[icy crow]

you'd have to make a pr each update :/

[woeful bough]

im going to just make an actual updated one with no count

if i can

[umbral stag]

@heady frost might be a fluke (i hope it’s a fluke), but my computer all out blue-screened when reloading joker forge to see the new ui

didn’t catch the error message; if it happens again, i’ll show you it

okay it was a fluke 😭

still no idea why that happened though

[icy crow]

not enough ram

goodmorning be crypto mining in the background

[heady dock]

you should scribble another number over the previous number in like ms paint or something every time you add more

[crude trail]

I was watching the jokers

[umbral stag]

the 32 gb of ddr5 ram staring you right in the eyesockets:

oh also i will say that clicking on the mod metatext tab still makes the screen go blank

[heady frost]

that is crazy, jokerforge straight up bluescreening peoples pcs

[heady frost]

does it?

[umbral stag]

yes

[heady frost]

show pls

it shouldnt do that

[icy crow]

the site looks fire

[umbral stag]

also i find it quite a bit odd that every time i reload the page in any way, it says that it found an "auto-saved project"
like, this is a good feature, but it doesn't have to come up every time i load anything

[heady frost]

there is no way around this unfortunately, when you refresh you are starting from scratch, but as you make changes its saved to your browser storage. even if you made no changes, your current mod will be in browser storage so joker forge detects that and offers to import it

[heady frost]

what does the console say when this happens because i cant reproduce this

like if you f12 there should be errors in the console

[heady frost]

thank you, big improvement from what it was

[umbral stag]

yea ik

one sec

oh wait hold on...

is it my adblocker?

nope!

yeah i have no clue

[heady frost]

it shouldnt be but it might be an extension or something you have maybe. i will look into it

that vercel analytics message does show up if you have privacy trackers blocked tho, i wrote that message lol

[umbral stag]

this additionally pops up when i have my adblocker disabled

[heady frost]

(im not tracking your personal data, its just so i can see page views)

[umbral stag]

yea lol

[icy crow]

how dare you track me!!

[umbral stag]

track me more

i am hampter

[heady frost]

i would love to but i dont have vercel premium

[umbral stag]

damn

[woeful bough]

🔥?

[heady frost]

it costs to use more tracking things

[umbral stag]

track this person in specific

[heady frost]

if i had it i would track the amount of jokers total exported

[umbral stag]

tru...

[heady frost]

cos i think that would be a cool stat

[umbral stag]

also this appears on any reload

[heady frost]

i am looking into both of these now

[umbral stag]

warning probably isn't important but error may be

[heady frost]

i think this is an artifact of you using an old save where you didnt have any mod metadata initialised from before i updated the mod metadata page to auto insert values and convert them to strings. i am fixing it now, should be sorted in like 10 mins

[umbral stag]

ah i see

[woeful bough]

does anyone know how to change the image you set on BMM?

[umbral stag]

yeah you just pr it, no?

[icy crow]

another pr

[umbral stag]

did that with cryptposting

[icy crow]

the same thing you did last time

but instead of adding new

you replace

[woeful bough]

ok

[woeful bough]

so make another fork, find the mod, and change it that way?

[icy crow]

yes

[umbral stag]

wait what cryptposting is DEAD

what did they do to my boy

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[umbral stag]

what the freak

i cannot find it yo

cryptposting on the bmm found shot dead in the bronx

[heady dock]

maybe not on mod manager anymore? idk

[icy crow]

it should be there

it's in the repo

[heady dock]

try to validate mod database in settings

[heady dock]

waow

bulgoe

[umbral stag]

am i cooked

oh this is probably old, isn't it

[icy crow]

yes

[umbral stag]

there he is

[heady frost]

i need to make a balatro mod lol

[umbral stag]

true

[heady frost]

ive literally never made one, i started learning smods and lua just for this

[heady dock]

great opportunity to advertise joker forge /j

[umbral stag]

make a shitposting mod it'll be peak

[icy crow]

dont forget to name your mod with ! at the begining so it shows up first

[woeful bough]

morningforged

[heady frost]

i will just take every other balatro mod with an MIT license and repackage them into the same mod but with the names changed

[umbral stag]

yeah this is great etiquette

[heady dock]

are there any characters that are considered before exclamation mark?

[icy crow]

!Use Joker Forge!

[umbral stag]

i don't think so?

[heady frost]

‎

[umbral stag]

tru...

[woeful bough]

!not an ad!

[heady dock]

cinema

just dont give it a name at all

[heady frost]

i wonder how robust bmm is with that kinda stuff

[umbral stag]

ooh nice edit i was about to clown you (joker reference)

[heady frost]

just name your mod

‎

[heady dock]

you could probably just put name = ""

though they probably thought of that

[icy crow]

they have a validation on the repo tho

[heady frost]

but did they think of the blank character

[heady dock]

what about a space?

[heady frost]

different

[icy crow]

although the schema just says string

[heady frost]

im gonna try it now lol

[icy crow]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/blob/main/.github/workflows/check-mod.yml#L109-L151

[heady dock]

okay so alphabetical order for special characters depends on what character set is being ued

[icy crow]

the workflow

[heady dock]

so just find out what the mod manager used

[umbral stag]

english 🗣️

[heady dock]

though it probably ignores control and formatting characters

[woeful bough]

yay my 50 joker mods thumbnail wont say 35

[icy crow]

i wonder if the contributors would accept it

probably not

[heady dock]

making the first character a space if it uses ASCII

[heady frost]

do i really have to clone the entire repo just to make an edit

[heady dock]

so start with a space

[heady frost]

crazy

[icy crow]

yes

🔥

[umbral stag]

erm yea

[heady dock]

im pretty sure a mod upload system is being worked on though

iirc

[icy crow]

like 300mb

[icy crow]

yeah

[heady dock]

just stall making the mod

[heady frost]

was this the stuff that was discussed here or on their own discord server?

[umbral stag]

i mean... you could just fork it then edit it in the github editor

[woeful bough]

i just did that lol

[heady frost]

even if its 1mb, its a piss take

[umbral stag]

yea it was a joke(r)

[heady frost]

hell, i would develop them a nice website if they wanted to, just to serve as a nice frontend for uploading your mod

[icy crow]

i think their server

[umbral stag]

i am such joking

jok

[woeful bough]

speaking of which

is your website from scratch or does it use something else?

like squarespace or smthn

[heady frost]

completely from scratch

it uses the react library

and tailwind css

but thats about it, doesnt use wix or squarespace or any website builder, i dont think those would even work with what im making

[umbral stag]

actually gemini coded the whole website, obviously

[heady frost]

true in 2 years maybe

[umbral stag]

i'm kidding website is peak

[umbral stag]

tru...

[woeful bough]

gemini would probably say "you can code a website by making code for a website"

[heady dock]

isnt squarespace dogshit because its a common youtube sponsorship

like no good product would be desperate enough for that

[umbral stag]

i thought in my head "what's an ai that like nobody uses"

[heady frost]

ai is very proficient in coding websites, but a good developer knows if its bad code or good code that its giving you. i use ai a lot for programming, except for the stuff that is particularly difficult or anything that deals with code generation

[umbral stag]

true

-# raid sh-

[woeful bough]

idk it was one of the ones i know

[woeful bough]

mid

[heady frost]

true

[umbral stag]

yeah i sometimes use ai for things that would take a long time otherwise and are super easy

[woeful bough]

Zenless Zone Zero is good and i hate that i like the game unironically :/

[heady frost]

my background is in software development but joker forge is probably the most technologically challenging thing that i have done

[umbral stag]

kill~2

[woeful bough]

i have not spent any money on it tho

[heady frost]

i have written entire dissertations on things less complex than joker forge

[umbral stag]

good but also gooner bait

[woeful bough]

i saw someone spend like 2 grand on it

[umbral stag]

that's fun

[woeful bough]

not a single person on my team is female

[heady frost]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B_EPk7d60amu6yxYwrGOWt_Wj_r6tlgFskHXxwk71Mo/edit?usp=sharing

proof to my claim too

[woeful bough]

all of their games are

thats why their so popular

[umbral stag]

we ALL reading this

[heady frost]

reviewing this shit on goodreads

[umbral stag]

where tl;dr i can't read

[woeful bough]

6/5 stars

[umbral stag]

-# actually, an abstract kinda is the tl;dr lol

[heady frost]

theres pictures so its basically a picture book

[umbral stag]

woahh pictures now i can read it

[icy crow]

88 PAGES ?!?!?!

[heady frost]

i cant wait until im done with my masters and i NEVER have to write about programming again

[umbral stag]

what is a shuv 😭

[heady frost]

14 PAGES

[heady frost]

skateboarding trick

[woeful bough]

hovering over the anything and everything joker still crashes the game

[umbral stag]

okay but i love dumb absurd names like that

[heady frost]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shove-it

[heady frost]

try refreshing then re-exporting your jokers

[woeful bough]

i updated it to new codegen

hold on ill try again

[umbral stag]

[heady frost]

riding trannys doing blunts

i love skateboarding language

[umbral stag]

man... if only i had pin permissions

fire emoji speaks for itself 😭

[heady frost]

crazy

[heady dock]

unsuprising but funny

[heady frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SHZI37GaUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qin07Ve5Xik

mod team

this is real

[heady dock]

🔥

[umbral stag]

i guess "tr*nny" is fairly derogatory out of context lol

[nimble island]

skate what

lmfao

[umbral stag]

😭

[heady frost]

it is short for transition skating

meaning like ramps and pipes and stuff

[umbral stag]

right

[nimble island]

too late

[umbral stag]

person who made that name definitely had some other intentions

[heady frost]

skateboarding is split up into three subsections, transition, street, and freestyle

[nimble island]

im kidding

its fine

[heady frost]

i think it was a thing before it became a slur for transgender people too lol

[umbral stag]

that's funny

[heady frost]

but nowadays people dont say it as much because others that dont know skateboarding have commented on it

which is fair

[umbral stag]

i remember seeing a video pop up on my fyp from like 14 years ago called "gooning it" where it was just like guys riding on motorcycles, and apparently that used to be a motorcycle term for... something idk

[heady dock]

i mean it can also be short for transistor in like engineering i think???????? idk something like that

[heady frost]

motorcycle term for jacking it while riding

[heady dock]

it used to be used a lot lmao

[woeful bough]

refreshing worked

[heady dock]

what

[umbral stag]

i am BEGGING for pin perms at this point 😭

god i love ts

[woeful bough]

not about that...

[umbral stag]

wrong reply

[heady frost]

lets goooooo

[woeful bough]

this

[heady dock]

thats so far apart how even 😭

[umbral stag]

oh yippee i can click on metadata now

[heady frost]

lets fucking goooo

i made it so if you go onto that page with nothing in your metadata, it just enters default values in

[umbral stag]

who else pronounces ".json" as "dot jason"

[heady frost]

100%

[umbral stag]

yes

[heady dock]

does not everyone do that?

[umbral stag]

one of my friends said they just say "[filename] jay saun/sawn"

without a dot and it sounds weird

[heady dock]

saying any file extension without the dot is insane

[woeful bough]

Every new reference in the update. who can name them all? person who gets the most gets virtually nothing

[icy crow]

dot John son🔥

[heady frost]

CASTLE CRASHERS

peak

new update comes out soon

[heady dock]

castle crashers, adofai, deltarune, has been hotel, and idk the others

[umbral stag]

oops i got blasted by images there goes the chat

[heady frost]

that exact image used to be my profile picture on facebook in like 2007

[umbral stag]

john jason

[heady dock]

coming straight from your house

[woeful bough]

mandela catalogue, murder drones

[umbral stag]

john delayed gratification (ew thumbs down this)

delayed gratification is the bane of my existence

[heady dock]

no discard gameplay 👎

same reason ramen and green joker and banner and the water SUCK

[umbral stag]

i put it in d on my tier list next to the only other two jokers there, 8 ball and hit the road

[heady dock]

eibaul naur

nauurrrrrrr eibaul naurr

[umbral stag]

proposed buff for 8 ball: "if played hand contains an 8, create a tarot card"

[woeful bough]

flower pot

matador

[heady dock]

just make it the old version but creates tarots instead

[umbral stag]

flower pot's c honestly it's pretty good xmult and can be used well with straights, full houses, a lot of stuff

[umbral stag]

flame this man

[woeful bough]

matador isnt good

thats common knowledge i thought?

[umbral stag]

uh, kind of?
it's definitely c, but i think you severly underestimate how much 8 * 4 dollars is if you pick it up early

[heady dock]

its just less consistent to do list

[umbral stag]

like best strat for matador is getting lucky enough to have the next boss blind to be compatible with it, spamming the hell out of its ability, then selling it

[heady dock]

well yeah but that needs to actually happen

[umbral stag]

that is the only way but it does give a LOT of money

[heady dock]

which doesnt happen a lot

[umbral stag]

which is why it isn't d

here i should send my full tier list

[icy crow]

you know what, im going to use joker forge to create a joker named joker forge eith a description made in joker forge and then export it and paste the code into my mod

#joker forge

[heady dock]

its barely more than hermit money...

[umbral stag]

and? it's still money

🤑

[heady dock]

eibaul shot dead 🥀

[umbral stag]

yeah we all rarely get matador but i think it's a bit overhated, is all

[umbral stag]

he died

no more

[heady dock]

old square joker texture 🥀

[umbral stag]

hey now the effect is still the same

[heady dock]

yes but its not square..

[umbral stag]

tru...

what's the worst ranking here

like the opinion you absolutely disagree with

mind you this is not sorted in-rank

[woeful bough]

Wee in s

[umbral stag]

wee is easily the best chip joker

you can crank your wee to the maximum and get it as big as 3500 (my biggest) if you're skilled

[heady dock]

you arent getting it to 3500 before chips stop being relevant....

[umbral stag]

it's fun though

[heady dock]

that is true!

well its fun if you get 2s

[umbral stag]

also it's just generally great mid-game to late-game

[heady dock]

which i generally dont if i get wee

[umbral stag]

all my homies NEVER use hanged man on 2s

3s, 4s, and 7s are the things to kill

[icy crow]

just use strength on aces

[umbral stag]

i mean yeah you can do that too

then you can use death

maybe get some magicians on those 2s

five of a kind lucky 2s with wee and hack goes crasy hard

then just get the blueprint and brainstorm from your stat menu

and you're set

[woeful bough]

they went here

[umbral stag]

i saw that 😭

"hey, their*[sic]* good now!"

[woeful bough]

Is the description messed up?

[heady dock]

thats not the issue the issue is that i never get any way to create more 2s

[umbral stag]

strength on aces my dude

[heady dock]

thats 4 more at most

[umbral stag]

then death and cryptid and all the duplication your world has seen

[heady dock]

and still i manage to never draw them

[heady dock]

that NEVER happens

nothing ever wees

[umbral stag]

then you can get that deck modification and then use like a wheel of fortune 4 times and nope on all of them idk

[woeful bough]

I got a ante 13 wee to 16k

[umbral stag]

insane

[woeful bough]

Plasma deck too

[umbral stag]

that would be like 2,000 retriggers in total

on ante 13?

[woeful bough]

Ye

Ante 1 wee

[umbral stag]

this is a load of barnacles

[woeful bough]

Hanging Chad, blueprint, brainstorm, both hand vouchers, hack, dusk

Not the craziest thing I've done

[woeful bough]

That was drawn by my friend i haven't played lol

[pure ravine]

I HEARD THAT!

[pure ravine]

Necromancer please

[woeful bough]

From what?

[pure ravine]

Castle Crashers

[woeful bough]

Ah

I'll ask my friend

[dapper skiff]

No

[woeful bough]

Oh okay

The founding fathers

[icy crow]

@heady frost do i have permission to include this in my mod?

[heady dock]

the adveritsements need to be bigger

imo

especially the link

[woeful bough]

Tooltip that takes the entire screen

[heady dock]

🔥

also add more effects

add the float effect to the joker forge text

and make it use dark_edition

[icy crow]

i don't want to boot up joker forge again 🥺

[heady dock]

i meant like

in the text

[icy crow]

also

[icy crow]

ik but then the description would be lying

[heady dock]

no like

text formatting

effects

[icy crow]

ik

[heady dock]

Is there a limit on the text scale effect?

[woeful bough]

You did say "this JOKER was made in joker forge" not this description

[icy crow]

the description is in SMODS.Joker tho

[woeful bough]

Oh

Rip

[icy crow]

big block

imagine getting this in the middle of the run

which is almost guaranteed because its common

[heady frost]

ofcourse go for it lmao

[icy crow]

#sponsored

👀

[heady frost]

#paidforbyjokerforge

[woeful bough]

When rarities?

[icy crow]

hey you didn't pay me!

[icy crow]

soon™

[woeful bough]

I was scrolling up cuz I thought he said his plans a while ago but I scrolled for like 3 minutes to no avail

[icy crow]

made it a lil bigger

[dapper skiff]

Would y’all think this would make a good joker?

[woeful bough]

When copying more than one joker ability gets added yea

[heady frost]

#soon

when i wittle down the github issues to like 10

currently its like 60

ill get back to work on them now

[woeful bough]

What was it when you started?

[heady frost]

like 70 maybe

but i started like 2 hours ago

[woeful bough]

Not a bad rate

[heady frost]

the rest of today was refining code gen

yeah a lot of them are quick

[woeful bough]

Arguably more important

Especially for new features in the future I assume

[heady frost]

and some of them were already solved by the ui and code gen overhauls

[heady frost]

yeah, it is now much more extensible for me to add new things into code gen

[woeful bough]

Like new Smods probability stuff

[heady frost]

yeah exactly

[woeful bough]

Scaling probability scares me

[icy crow]

new probability stuff is fun

[pure ravine]

1 mult… is that all?

[heady dock]

its an advertisement

AND +1 mult

crazy stuff

[heady frost]

should -5 dollars each round

[icy crow]

yes