Joker Forge - Create Balatro Mods Visually and Export the Lua Files (WIP)

[lapis mauve]

Then leftmost still has function

Since using leftmost it goes to the leftmost copyable joker

If i remember correctly

[lilac yacht]

4 ace 3
4 1 3
413
homestuck? in MY joker forge? it's more likely than you'd think

[woeful bough]

It's supposed to be 4043 since my @ on everything is @coleblock 4043

will a compatible box be added at some point like blueprint and brainstorm

this doesnt work

its meant to hit joker slot 2

here is json

[lapis mauve]

Isnt there already one?

Blueprint compatable

[woeful bough]

i meant the green text in game

*or red

[lapis mauve]

Oh

Not yet at least

[heady frost]

hopefully after all vanilla effects are added I will go back and refine and add loads of the effects so they are much nicer. but that will be in a week or two

[heady dock]

it doesnt, brainstorm also just doesnt work if the leftmost joker isnt copyable

[woeful bough]

are there any plans to add a retrigger joker effct?

*meaning, ex, consttellation gains X0.2 when a planet card is used

[heady dock]

i think this came up once, only after all the vanilla stuff iirc

[woeful bough]

ok

[woeful bough]

so right now is

finish vanilla jokers
refine/add vanilla effects
other game mechanics (consumables, decks, etc.)

[heady frost]

yeah that's the general idea. I wanna leave off the joker creator quite nicely before I move onto other stuff. obviously will add more to it over time but I want to focus my full attention on consumables next

[woeful bough]

also heres wee joker

for vanilla reforged

[heady dock]

yeah it has to be added first

[woeful bough]

https://github.com/cokeblock/Cokelatro download the mod!!!

[heady frost]

I need to replace the json lol

thank you for the image tho

[heady frost]

let's goooooo

[icy crow]

not even mentioned the joker forge

smh

[woeful bough]

i did

it is in the release text

hold on ill update the description rq

done

[spark patio]

I prolly shouldn't be saying a word cuz I haven't actually used joker forge as much but, is there gonna be conditionals for certain hand levels and when certain hand levels are raised

[heady frost]

thats a good idea, a condition for specific hand levels

[heady frost]

honestly you dont even need to mention it if you dont wanna haha

[woeful bough]

nah this carried me singlehandedly

[spark patio]

also adding chips and mult to certain hand levels too but idk if an api is needed for that

[woeful bough]

there is a crytpid code card that adds the amount of mult to a poker hand equal to the amount of jokers you own

so it may be possibl

[heady frost]

im gonna try and work on the hiker effect (perma added efffects to cards) and maybe knock out a few conditions today like consumable type for consumable used/sold

[woeful bough]

YES

[heady frost]

but i cant do any work at the moment cos im waiting on a call from the doctor and i dont wanna be interuppted haha

[woeful bough]

ok :p

that emoji ( 😛 ) is NOT what the emoticon expresses

making a trailer for the mod rn

[woeful bough]

will this be able to add mult to?

[heady dock]

im pretty sure steamodded has support for chips, mult, xchips, xmult, and money

so at some point porbably

[heady frost]

yeah for sure

[icy crow]

what the hell is happening here

im scared of what this is doung

doing

460 lines of code for one joker scares me

[heady frost]

what the fuck haha

[woeful bough]

for some reason this doesnt work

it just says again

[heady frost]

submit it as an issue with the json and I will take a look at it when the hiker stuff is done

I'm gonna compile all the edge cases for code gen and rewrite a bunch of it

after the vanilla effects r done

[rain mason]

btw trying to modify an xchips value crashes the website

oh nvm trying to add any value after modifying a range value crashes the website

[heady frost]

i see

[lilac yacht]

holy trib skin

[woeful bough]

tis a mod

modifies (like 90%) of jokers that resemble a normal joker

[lapis mauve]

is that waifu triboulet 😭

[woeful bough]

does anyone know how to force game crash

[lapis mauve]

nil values probably

[icy crow]

return 1/0

nil.val

[woeful bough]

yea

but i mean on hand played

it just crashes when i open it

[cedar zealot]

if you just want the whole game to quit immediately you could do uhhh

G:save_settings()            
G:save_progress()
function 
  love.errorhandler() 
end

in a function

[woeful bough]

does this work?

[heady sky]

here's the jokers I've made so far using the tool, just some simple scoring ones

[turbid jetty]

How dose u guys get the umm.. round square thingy

[lapis mauve]

huh?

like the mult box?

[heady dock]

could you put a 1 in 0 chance? that would put 1/0 in the claculation

[turbid jetty]

Sry I mean the joker card

[lapis mauve]

the sprite??

[toxic aspen]

Nice artwork 👍🏻

[woeful bough]

its not meant to always crash tho

[harsh locust]

Skullgirls…

[heady dock]

save it as a png instead

[heady sky]

Thanks! You can check out more of it here https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1338391196514386006

[harsh locust]

Rip, I guess I can’t create a Peacock Joker for my mod now.

[heady dock]

though if youre downloading it from somewhere you probably have to find a different place that already has it in png

[turbid jetty]

Thx that help a lot

[heady dock]

invalid range maybe? like making the upper limit be lesser than the lower limit

[heady sky]

You'll be hearing from my lawyer /j

[rain mason]

-# I need perkoulet yuri where can I get the mod

[turbid jetty]

Quality 👌

[harsh locust]

Hey, she was originally going to be a part of a pool of high rarity (supposed to be higher than legendary) jokers. But since you already have a peacock joker, might as well scrap her.

[heady sky]

I mean you don't need to stop on my account. Skullatro's pretty slow going anyway, it's unlikely I'm going to be finishing any time soon.

There's room for two Peacocks

[spark patio]

and isnt it mostly moves rn anyways?

like I don't think there's character legendaries right

[heady dock]

instead of putting the description at the bottom you can add a tooltip by adding {T:j_joker} (Or with whatever the object's key is) to the formatting (So you would have something like {C:attention,T:j_joker}Joker{} in the description)

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Text-Styling also obligatory link to the steamodded text styling guide because its SO useful

[heady sky]

Well each fighter has their own normal Joker in my mod (see Big Band and Umbrella here #1386843228330004611 message), and then there's the Blockbusters which are the move-based consumables. There's only one legendary planned for my mod and that's the Skull Heart

[spark patio]

fair enough

[heady dock]

also while youre at it you could add a tooltip for Negative like the vanilla jokers have in the same way (except that the object key for negative is e_negative instead)

[heady sky]

I've been meaning to ask, how do you add tooltips in Joker Forge?

[heady dock]

put {T:<object key>} in the formatting

theres no button for it you just have to know the text formatting

[toxic aspen]

I’m doing some early concepting for a breaking bad themed mod

[heady dock]

i am the one who plays balatro 🔥

[heady sky]

Okay so I'm having a few issues with a card I'm working on. It's supposed to be a 1 in 6 chance to destroy a face card when it's scored and give $10, but:
1: the odds aren't displaying properly on the card in game, and 2: It always destroys face cards, only the cash seems to be left to chance

[heady frost]

yeah unfortunately there is a known bug for destroying cards with a random chance https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/132

i will get around to all the bugs and stuff when i overhaul the codegen after i have emulated every vanilla joker

[heady sky]

gotcha gotcha

there also seems to be a crash when trying to load two jokerforge mods at once

[woeful bough]

does anyone know how to get a mod onto balatro mod manager?

[heady frost]

if i remember correctly, you need to clone the index repo and add your files there. there will probbaly be a tutorial on the github for bmm

[heady frost]

that is strange, do they share the same name or any mod metadata?

[woeful bough]

how do i do this, im new to github stuff

[heady sky]

Not sure, here's the message I received and the two mods in question

[woeful bough]

also the trailers done

its pretty simple

https://youtu.be/DslpFsQwwr8

[heady sky]

both work fine independently, it's just when they're together that issues arise

Also as a side note, I feel like Numbered Cards should be a Rank Group

[umbral stag]

agreed

[heady frost]

you make a good point, i will add it to the github https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/137

[heady frost]

so fucking fire

[icy crow]

to #🎥・videos-and-streams you go ig

[heady sky]

finally here's some art you can use for a Joker placeholder if you like

[icy crow]

@heady frost our lord and saviour there's a new offering for your stash 🙏

[woeful bough]

does joker forge already do this?

[icy crow]

is this the mod index?

[woeful bough]

yea

[icy crow]

then probably not

[woeful bough]

also where is the name at?

meant to be

[heady frost]

just added the perma bonus effect to the card scored trigger, this one was a bit of a challenge to make so i expect niche bugs. let me know if anyone finds anything annoying. one less joker to go!

[heady frost]

i assume in meta.json

[heady frost]

this looks so fire im gonna put it on a joker template now and turn it into a placeholder

[woeful bough]

where would i put this?

just copy it into the meta file or a seperate JSON

[heady frost]

i assume you dont even upload your mod files

you just put the link in

make a new folder ith those three things

[flat valve]

i don't think it makes sense to include the face cards in odd or even, vanilla doesn't

[heady frost]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/issues/44 known issue lol

[woeful bough]

ohhh

[heady frost]

need to get around to fixing it

[woeful bough]

also how do i make an MD file

[olive agate]

is there a way to make it when a specific joker is sold does something?

i mean like the joker's variable gets increased by depending the amount of that same specific joker sold

[heady sky]

based, you can just credit me as EverSoNitro

[woeful bough]

*instead of add dollars you can do "increase internal variable"

[olive agate]

thansk

[cedar zealot]

hi peacock

[woeful bough]

what do i click to add a folder?

[heady frost]

what do you think

[heady dock]

not too familiar with github but if contribute probably if i had to guess

[icy crow]

would ```bash
git clone https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index.git
#add add files
git add .
git commit -m "added my mod"
git push

work?

[woeful bough]

i figured it out

[heady frost]

this is why i think the new mod manager needs a nice way to upload mods to iut

it

because it is very convoluted when it doesnt need to be

[woeful bough]

nvm

this is confusing

how do i add to this folder?

when i click it says file not found

[heady sky]

oh I figured you'd just add it as-is. Looks good! Though I personally would have the bottom of the arm behind the border like so

[icy crow]

from what i know it's being developed

[heady frost]

yeah that looks better lol, im not an artist im just doing what i can haha

[woeful bough]

i finished it

jeez

[heady frost]

looking good

tomorrow i wanna really try and get all the vanilla jokers effects implemented so i can start polishing up and fixing all the bugs and stuff. will probably end up removing the extra credit jokers until i can ask the creators if they want it to be there

[lapis mauve]

ooh whats this?

[heady dock]

its new placeholder art

[lapis mauve]

nice

[woeful bough]

okay the mod is sent for review

[outer axle]

hey I also have this placeholder thinge that was never used

[woeful bough]

placeholder

[woeful bough]

why so small

[outer axle]

it's not upscaled

[woeful bough]

vanilla reforged should say 131 of 150 jokers

[icy crow]

it's 71x95 instead of 142x190

[woeful bough]

oh

[icy crow]

and really all jokers should be drawn at 71x95

because upscaling look cleaner than downscaling

[novel delta]

Well technically they are draw in a 69 by 93 ☝️🤓

[icy crow]

you can ignore the transparent border

[heady dock]

holy shit decamark mention

[outer axle]

hell yeah

[woeful bough]

My friend begged me to make this

He has 100 hours in hollow knight

(He got it 3 weeks ago)

[novel delta]

W friend

[heady dock]

slightly better mr bones!

the art looks peak though

[flat valve]

if you wanted it to be properly rareworthy maybe make it spawn a shade in that makers itself negative, gives X2 mult and disappears after a few rounds or something

just spitballin

[heady frost]

i think that number changes as you filter the results

[heady frost]

fire, just added it now

[tame orchid]

the humble nearby neighbor:

[crude trail]

I had done this last time and never used it, I don't know if it works for the site

I was looking for the JOKER font but couldn't find it

[pulsar brook]

I think it's somewhere in here https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1224362333208444989

[hidden oriole]

breakcore jumpscare

[glass canopy]

when did the sprite for him change

[heady frost]

looking fire, will add it when I wake up tomorrow 🔥

[crude trail]

Yuppi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[crude trail]

does anyone know what could have happened

[crude trail]

I found the error

[sand mural]

There's so many mr bones

[sour spear]

omg i didnt save the sprite

ughhh

whateverr new card

:(

[lapis mauve]

You can copy paste it from the website

[sour spear]

i didnt save the card

and i overwritten the sprite with a new one

ill just make a new one then

[sour spear]

i wonder if misprint text effect can be added into this website

[lapis mauve]

Not yet, but that would be really cool

[umbral stag]

oh lord have mercy on this description; just do
"Scored cards become Steel"

😭

[lapis mauve]

Or if you want a more vanilla style “played cards become Steel cards when scored” also works

[umbral stag]

yeah

[sour spear]

close enough

yall what do you think this card does

i kinda forgot

[heady dock]

is this supposed to be a cardboard box? if so i have no idea what it would do

[sour spear]

my dementia couldnt figure this one

[umbral stag]

Cardboard Modification
Can be used as any rank
1 in 3 chance to be destroyed
Enhancement
Second line is basically just Glass cards' ability, but with a 1 in 3 chance

[sour spear]

ngl that would be cool if card enhancement can be made in this website

[umbral stag]

yeah

[sour spear]

too bad noone knows what this references

[umbral stag]

yeah nobody knows your niche reference

[sour spear]

yeah

oh boi i love adding references that 0.1% of people know

[umbral stag]

what even is it a reference to

[sour spear]

"everywhere at the end of time stage 6" is what its referencing to

[frank flax]

guys i have a problem im trying my mod but when i select a card to play the game closes without any crash message

[heady dock]

Does it still happen with the mod disabled?

[woeful bough]

github 🧠 🤕

hopefully i got it working right

because i screwed up the first time

[woeful bough]

the next update to my mod adds BFDI characters

[sour spear]

crazy

[woeful bough]

crazy? i was crazy once. they locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, rats make me crazy... crazy?

multiplayer btw

[frank flax]

yes

[icy crow]

@crude trail made his mod private/deleted it

F

[woeful bough]

worthwhile hex?

[exotic flume]

Ohno

[lapis mauve]

how would i detect if a played card is suitless

not only stone

cuz mod compatability

[sour spear]

can i retrigger a joker 3 times

[icy crow]

I think retriggering jokers isn't added yet

[sour spear]

it is

[icy crow]

.

[icy crow]

It is?

[woeful bough]

🙏 bro is the speaker

does oops all 6's work internally and not visually

[heady dock]

Validate game files on steam and see if it still happens

[woeful bough]

funny

[sour spear]

bruhh why doesnt this work

[turbid jetty]

How to retrigger a card?

[woeful bough]

retrigger

[turbid jetty]

Thx

Like this?

[icy crow]

Should work

[woeful bough]

dont use rank count

[lapis mauve]

depends on the function

if you want something like

faceless joker

you need rank count

[heady dock]

Yeah thats true but in this case probably not

[heady frost]

hey guys I'm awake

[icy crow]

o/

[heady frost]

What's on the agenda

[icy crow]

Good morining mr goodmorning

[heady frost]

good morning

[lapis mauve]

balancing X amount of chips and mult

[turbid jetty]

Good morning ☀️

[heady dock]

Hello mr. john good "joker forge" morning

[heady frost]

I wouldn't even know how to do that haha, there is a generic balance score effect

I think I will add ceremonial dagger effect today

change the destroy joker to add sell value to mult, chips, etc

[heady dock]

Steal the code from All in jest 🔥

[lapis mauve]

what about money given

[heady dock]

You could probably just make it modify an internal variable right

[heady frost]

yes that would be the plan, rather modify and internal variable or just straight give you the effect

[lapis mauve]

yeah that sounds better

[heady frost]

and if I have time I will add another easy one too

[lapis mauve]

you should also add a misprint desciption effect

[heady frost]

I have really left myself with the most difficult jokers lol

[heady frost]

very good idea actually, would be fire

[sour spear]

mult doesnt work on my joker

[heady frost]

send the json

from the site

wait, are you using a passive effect then exporting the single joker

[sour spear]

no

[heady frost]

because passive effects don't get added to single joker exports it's a known bug lol

[sour spear]

let me get the json file might take a minute cause i just closed my pc

[heady frost]

no worries

[delicate cave]

Is the website still getting updated till this day?

[icy crow]

why wouldn't it?

[toxic aspen]

Were you ever able to look into this?

[sour spear]

omg i think i just already deleted the joker

aughhhh

[woeful bough]

how would i crash the game when a hand is played?

i tried to make it make a non-existent joker

[heady frost]

no I forgot lol, shouldnt be too hard I'll do it now

[woeful bough]

but it crashes it when i open the game

[sour spear]

here's a recreation
rule 1:
if hand played
if variable is greater than 0
variable - 1

rule2:
if hand played
if variable equal or less than 0
xmult = 1,000,000

rule3:
after hand is finished scoring
if variable equal or less than 0
destroy itself

[woeful bough]

isnt that just "when hand played>aplly Xmult>destroyself"?

[heady frost]

does anyone have a good example of a joker that deals with antes?

if not i can just guess the code required

[woeful bough]

cryptids redeo

[toxic aspen]

Only the voucher is what I can think of

Their might not be a vanilla one unfortunately

Sorry 🫠

[heady frost]

thank you guys

[woeful bough]

will retroactive variables be added

like throwback

[icy crow]

stop deleting your messages 🙏

[woeful bough]

it was a question i didnt think i needed

i thought it was a bug but it was something i did

[heady frost]

you can do this with game variables

[woeful bough]

blue seal carries tbh

[heady frost]

added the set ante effect

[woeful bough]

yes!@

[heady frost]

gonna work on the new destroy joker effect now

will also add the "destroy all jokers except this one" thing

[woeful bough]

my hollow knight joker was going to set the ante to 1 too

and it can now

[woeful bough]

will there be a way to increase shop prices?

[heady dock]

Five hundred ante

[sour spear]

the variable is used to count how many hands are remaining

kinda weird why it didnt work

it just destroys itself with no mult

[heady dock]

What did you put for the starting value

And did you put the mult before destroy self

[heady frost]

probably after the vanilla stuff is all added

[icy crow]

Wouldn't "at the end of the round" sound nicer?

[heady frost]

added more parameters for the destroy joker effect, making ceremonial dagger possible

[turbid jetty]

Yea

[heady frost]

also i just realised the rarity and cost is wrong to it

[heady frost]

what joker should i do next

there is 18 left

which ones seem easiest

maybe the "add card to hand" stuff because currently it can only add card to deck. i could change that so its a parameter on whether you want to add the card to deck or hand. or do you think it would be better for them to be two separate effects "add playing card to hand" and "add playing card to deck". because they will have different applicable triggers

because obviously you can only add card to hand in the context of gameplay, you cant do it like when shop is rerolled

ill do it as a separate effect

[lapis mauve]

Honestly everything should just be able to have a negative value

[woeful bough]

?

[lapis mauve]

We have a lower shop prices

If you could make it a negative number it would also have increased

Only thing being chips and mult needing a safeguard to never go below 1

[sour spear]

how does the create joker work

specific joker thing

[lapis mauve]

You input the joker key

Which one would you like to create?

[sour spear]

can i get the tenplate of it like

j_[name] or somethin

[woeful bough]

j_modtag_name

[lapis mauve]

Yeah it’s just j_name

Or j_ whatever your mod prefix is

And then name

If you want to create a custom joker

[woeful bough]

can you add this to the "passive" trigger too?

[outer axle]

if there isn't a way to add edition on cards already, it would be cool to have

[woeful bough]

there is

[outer axle]

how?

[woeful bough]

nvm

i cant find it

[heady dock]

Why though, that just seems like unnessecary restriction

You can prevent that yourself anyway

If you wanted to

[lapis mauve]

If it goes below 0 you get no score or negative

And the game breaks

[heady dock]

Idk when playing cryptid the game seemed to handle negative score just fine

It just looked wierd

[lapis mauve]

I mean yeah but thats still the game breaking

[heady dock]

It doesnt really impact gameplay at all thougg

[lapis mauve]

i mean you cant see what you score

[crude trail]

eh if it gave me thing but now I upload it again and also add it to the server

[crude trail]

I WAS PLANNING TO DO THAT... haha

[lapis mauve]

its just good to have a safeguard

[woeful bough]

this doesnt work for some reason :/ @heady frost

[sour spear]

dang

would be cool if we can set how many time we can copy

[heady dock]

It did for me

[lapis mauve]

final score yes

whatever you're currently scoring no

it should just be good to have

[heady dock]

Same thing happens with inf though

[sour spear]

i decided to set the description to base64 since misprint text effect didnt exist yet

[lapis mauve]

i mean yeah

but thats not that big of a problem

[heady dock]

Idk i dont think it needs to be restricted though

Maybe just put a warning

[lapis mauve]

i think it should

[heady frost]

the add card to hand effect is going well haha

[heady frost]

it doesnt work when you have more than one right now

[heady frost]

good idea actually

[lapis mauve]

oh also you should add some stuff for debuffing/debuffed stuff and turning stuff face down/faced down stuff

[lapis mauve]

its just good to have a restriction, negative score is something you would rather not have in most cases

[sour spear]

misprint text effect

in descriptions

[crude trail]

I made a mistake I read wrong

[turbid jetty]

How about this guy

[heady frost]

this guy will be hard i think

[heady dock]

Idk i prefer just having a warning so that the people that actually want negative stuff can still do it

[woeful bough]

you could add a "if boss blind is ___"

since matador works with like 2

*on a good day

[crude trail]

I had read effect and thought it was about what misprint does.

[heady frost]

very true

but that is not in the spirit of what the condition is

[icy crow]

if context.debuffed_hand or context.joker_main then
  if G.GAME.blind.triggered then

[lapis mauve]

okay but in what scenario would you want negative score

[heady frost]

ive managed to get this far im sure i will solve it

[sour spear]

misprint (randomized) text effect 😋😋😋😋😋

[heady frost]

wait is this real

[icy crow]

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/src/jokers.lua#L4078-L4079

[heady frost]

i havent even looked at the matador code

[sour spear]

also i wish we can put 0 and below on joker cost

[heady frost]

if its that simple i can add that guy after these effects

[lapis mauve]

we should be able to put negative numbers anywhere tbh

weird restriction

[heady frost]

its a default thing typescript likes to have

but you are right

[lapis mauve]

oh

thats annoying lol

[heady frost]

no more positive numbers only!!!

i can fix it

[sour spear]

wowzers

[lapis mauve]

just make sure to add a safe guard to negative chips and mult

[sour spear]

now i can deduct money when a joker is triggered

[lapis mauve]

or at least as an option

you don't want negative score in most scenarios

[heady frost]

i think just let them and if it crashes it crashes haha

[lapis mauve]

i mean it doesnt crash

[heady frost]

i wouldnt even know how smods would handle it

[lapis mauve]

but it's buggy

it just doesnt display the chips and mult if its negative

and a limitation would be nice in general

[sour spear]

i wish the numerator and denominator variable can properly show in descriptions instead of nil

just because of oops all 6s

[lapis mauve]

for example a joker that does -15 mult, but 1 in 6 chance to create a gros michel

i just think itd be nice to have

thats all

[turbid jetty]

How about -Mult for a separate fusion

Idk is it harder or not

[lapis mauve]

i mean its not really neccesary

[heady frost]

i dont even know why this is happening, this is a recent development lol

its been happening for a little bit

[lapis mauve]

we're just having an argument on if the mult and chips ingame should have a limit at 1 or not

[heady frost]

its probably a typo i made in the codegen somewhere

[lapis mauve]

so it doesnt go into the negatives

[woeful bough]

what is a fusion 🙏

[turbid jetty]

Funtion

Fntion

Funthinon

[icy crow]

Function?

[turbid jetty]

Funshion

Yea

[lapis mauve]

i just think negative score is bad

especially considering i worked with it a while

[lapis mauve]

yeah but the current mult and chips just goes empty

if you can get a fix for that, sure

but at least make it an option

[icy crow]

Ik

[lapis mauve]

yeah

it just looks buggy

[harsh locust]

Where’s card enhancers?

[lapis mauve]

like a check?

[harsh locust]

Applying an enhancement

[harsh locust]

Why does my jokerforge not look like that

[lapis mauve]

how does it look

[harsh locust]

Where is edit triggered card located?

[lapis mauve]

card effects

[turbid jetty]

I think it about the green thing

[lapis mauve]

but how does your jokerforge look?

there's no triggers for enhancements

yeah that doesnt exist

[lapis mauve]

and it wouldnt do anything

[lapis mauve]

click on card effects

on the left

[turbid jetty]

Oof

[lapis mauve]

triggers are just like

if something happens

[lapis mauve]

blue ones are checks

like if something is something

[lapis mauve]

thats odd

[tall moss]

the balance effect doesn't work for me.. does it need to be in a different trigger?

[lapis mauve]

go here

https://jokerforge.jaydchw.com/

not sure why it doesnt show up

[harsh locust]

no change

it's the website btw

[lapis mauve]

what condition do you have

trigger i mean

[harsh locust]

1 in 4 chance to apply a polychrome in played hand

when hand is played

1 in 4 chance it applies polychrome

that's one half of the ability

[lapis mauve]

yeah it's nto avaliable in the hand played

it has to be in scored cards

[toxic aspen]

Is it possible to add a “when this joker is purchased” trigger?

[lapis mauve]

wouldnt that just be a passive trigger

[woeful bough]

when a card is bought>specific joker

[lapis mauve]

oh yeah

[toxic aspen]

Oh that already is a thing?

Oh yeah passive prob work

Ig

[toxic aspen]

Isn’t that only for packs tho?

[woeful bough]

specific joker?

pack?

[lapis mauve]

booster packs?

those arent added yet

[toxic aspen]

No that’s not what I meant I think I’m good

I thought the trigger only applied to packs and consumables

[lapis mauve]

no

[woeful bough]

when you buy a specific joker from the shop

[toxic aspen]

Thanks for the help

[lapis mauve]

i mean the trigger is jokers and consumables

specifically not boosters nor vouchers

[toxic aspen]

The trigger is in packs and consumables

So

[lapis mauve]

no..

when card bought is jokers and consumables

nothing else

[toxic aspen]

I’m talking about this

Ok

[lapis mauve]

that's only for booster packs

not consumables

and you can also just take a screenshot

[woeful bough]

with "windows+shift+s" or "windows+prtscn"

[toxic aspen]

That was on my iPad to my phone I know how to take a screenshot I was lazy

Thanks

[tall moss]

?

[lapis mauve]

not sure

[crude trail]

...

[sour spear]

stretched misprint

[crude trail]

I don't know if it would be better if it was LOONGER or JOOKER.

[sour spear]

wha about both

[heady frost]

might need to be the when the round finishes scoring maybe?

[crude trail]

idk

[tall moss]

ill try

[heady dock]

Idk, but its literally in cryptid so clearly theres people that do

[woeful bough]

cursed jokers

[heady frost]

strange...

[sour spear]

negative score looks funny

[heady dock]

i kinda feel like context.jokers_main should be renamed to "when jokers score" or something since i feel like "when hand is played" kinda implies context.before

[woeful bough]

before hand scores would be space joker

[heady dock]

yeah thats context.before

[woeful bough]

bug

[heady frost]

i thought about this, but when hand is played implies you can do checks with the hand, and it leads to a better separation between 'when hand is scored' and 'when card is scored'

[harsh locust]

numerator and denominator

[heady frost]

known issue i still havent fixed cos im implementing the remaining vanilla effects :(

[woeful bough]

also "copy joker ability" should have a random

range mode doesnt work

[heady frost]

you might have to (for now) just use the hardcoded '1 in 4' or whatever

[hidden oriole]

"Your team have been changed to "Yellow". "

[tall moss]

something weird with the script maybe?

[heady frost]

this should be correct and work tho

[sour spear]

ngl it would be cool if theres an effect of (active) shake animation that DNA uses if its ready

but we might have to wait that alongside of the cosmetic effects aswell

[left galleon]

I can't use joker forge on mobile,are you thinking about making the website compatible with mobile

[tall moss]

well i'll work a bit more on the art for now :)

[woeful bough]

how are you gonna play the mod on mobile 🙏

[toxic aspen]

Mobile modded works

That’s how

For iOS and android

[heady frost]

eventually probably but not a priority

[lapis mauve]

Just make it an option then

[woeful bough]

How? That would be so hype

[lapis mauve]

That seems like the best choice

[woeful bough]

Idea: "when variable scales" trigger

It scales when another variable (in the same joker) scales

[lapis mauve]

Please don’t discuss mobile modding

[toxic aspen]

Cebee u seem like a very type a individual

[nimble island]

can jokeforge only do png

[sour spear]

.... go on, i wanna hear more

[crude trail]

I published it again a little more polished.

https://github.com/Dogg-Fly/Another-Stupid-Balatro-Mod

[sour spear]

purpleprint!!!!

[nimble island]

no jokerforge mention...

[lapis mauve]

what's that supposted to mean 🤔

[crude trail]

if I mention it

[nimble island]

whats wrong with that, not saying you have to though sorry if i came off agressive

[crude trail]

it's all right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[heady frost]

yessir

[heady frost]

dont feel like you ever have to mention if your mods are made with joker forge haha, if you dont wanna disclose that you dont have to

i do this for the love of the game

also added add card to hand and copy triggered card to hand effects

[woeful bough]

When will the extra rarities be added?

[heady frost]

probably rather just before custom consumables or just after them

but that will be after i go through and solve all the issues on the github

[woeful bough]

*also id like to see for the "when booster is opened" trigger a condition that checks if it's standard jumbo or mega

[heady frost]

which is after i finish all these vanilla effects

[heady frost]

i will look into doing that now, im currently working on a "when a card is destroyed" trigger

[woeful bough]

Canio gaming

[heady frost]

then i want to add a "consumable type" condition to card sold trigger

[nimble island]

oh i thought custom rarities was after the ui

[heady frost]

then i will do the booster pack condition

[heady frost]

yeah probably after the ui stuff too

but the ui stuff shouldnt take too long

but then again i am not a web designer i dont know how to make good ui

[woeful bough]

What are you planning to do for the ui?

[heady frost]

i just want to improve it, i dont really like much of it

some bits i like

like the rulebuilder is nice

but the general joker management stuff i dont like too much

but i dont have any good ideas for it

[woeful bough]

I think having small animations would feel more natural

[nimble island]

i just bought aseprite on steam so i can make cards easier

[heady frost]

yeah i wanna add a bunch of nice animations like i did for the block palette the other day

i also want to add an image cropper to the upload

[nimble island]

smart

[woeful bough]

Like how the cards in balatro have a slight bounce when you hover over them

[heady frost]

and maybe if i can be bothered, a way to make pixel art directly inside of joker forge

[heady frost]

yeah that would be fire

[nimble island]

like the soul card?

[woeful bough]

No

Hover over a playing card when it's in your hand

[heady frost]

like the spring animation

[nimble island]

where the soul is seperate, that i would love to see

[nimble island]

oh right

[woeful bough]

That exists?

[heady frost]

https://joker-syn.vercel.app/

like on this site

[crude trail]

is that the mention is necessary because it makes the site known to others and because it is easy to make jokers here I was so lazy to make a mod with lua and learn its language and I found this and it saved me hours of stress

[turbid jetty]

Umm how to do like umm first X rank card played

[heady frost]

you can have a look at the way hanging chad does it

but also some other people might be better at making jokers in joker forge than i am haha

[woeful bough]

Weren't you going to add a simplified version like "is [position] scored card in hand"

[heady frost]

yeah, might add that today once a few other conditions and stuff are added because it would make the process much easier

[lapis mauve]

wouldnt that be like

[woeful bough]

Why not current Xmult

[lapis mauve]

"gains x0.2 mult every hand played" and it just starts at 1.5x

[woeful bough]

Like how this joker has "current"

[turbid jetty]

Wait 0.5X is 1/2 😭

[lapis mauve]

depends

[turbid jetty]

Lemme fix it rq 🕴️

[lapis mauve]

on the description it should say x0.5 but internally it should be x1.5

[woeful bough]

"This joker gains X0.2 mult per hand played (currently X1.5)"

Also this is just obelisk but better

[woeful bough]

X1 - X25
1 in 15 chance to eat all other jokers.

Because he's wide

[crude trail]

I add it and see if it works

[turbid jetty]

Fix it

[crude trail]

I used to want it to be -15 to 60 mult but the game crashes

[woeful bough]

I usually add the XMULT color thing to the mult like it is ingame

[crude trail]

corrected

[woeful bough]

Haha

[crude trail]

I don't know how to remove all the jokers so I just repeat the same action

[woeful bough]

Thats how until he adds "destroy all except self"

[crude trail]

yeah

[nimble island]

rate this 1-10 i made this with a mouse in 10 minutes on aseprite

[woeful bough]

6

[crude trail]

6

[woeful bough]

Hey!

[nimble island]

ok

[crude trail]

you can use this https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1224362333208444989

[woeful bough]

Its probably personal bias. I draw all my jokers with mouse but have used mouse much longer.

[nimble island]

wdym

[woeful bough]

*and this took me 2 hours

[nimble island]

what needs improvement on my joker

i wanted to draw it all from scratch

[crude trail]

there are templates of the legendary cards and the font of that type of joker

[woeful bough]

Bigger

[nimble island]

like larger or more detailed

with more things

is it better that this?

[crude trail]

I'm too lazy to want to draw in aseprite so sometimes I just use google pngs

[toxic aspen]

How do u make the pngs pixelated?

[woeful bough]

No, personally

[woeful bough]

What?

[toxic aspen]

I mean I was asking him

[woeful bough]

If you do that you can always just make a basic trace of the item

Looks better in game and only takes 5 minutes

[nimble island]

ok good im improving

[crude trail]

I make the image smaller

[crude trail]

I will try

[lapis mauve]

fellow aseprite user 🔥

[woeful bough]

I use photopea 😭

[nimble island]

how can i trace in aseprite

[woeful bough]

Idk

I use photopea

Is there not layers in aseprite?

[nimble island]

yeah there are

[toxic aspen]

Where do I add a single joker into my modded game just to test it?

[woeful bough]

Cant

[toxic aspen]

Oh damn

[crude trail]

there is

[harsh locust]

Wait a minute, i can teach myself how to code jokers by looking through jokerforge made jokers.

[crude trail]

is what I do haha

[nimble island]

what

[tall moss]

my smods was out of date all works good now :)

[turbid jetty]

How to add a joker slot?

[heady frost]

added the card destroyed trigger. gonna take a little break for an hour or two then i will add 'consumable type' condition to consumable used and card sold triggers, then i will have a look at adding 'first played [] in hand' condition.

[heady frost]

no current way to do this yet :(

[woeful bough]

Clearing out a lot of jokers today!

[woeful bough]

• mult should be red

[crude trail]

I forgot to change that

[woeful bough]

Cantio

[orchid sage]

is there a way to change this to "current hand size - 6" for example? something like the example for bootstrap (pic 2), idk how to achieve that

[heady frost]

you might have to just export that, then manually edit the code to achieve what you want

[heady dock]

probably starts from -6? idk if you can input negatives there though

[crude trail]

Cardnio

[orchid sage]

cannot

tried that :/

[turbid jetty]

What skill should I give this guy

It’s a hallway ig

[heady dock]

if its a hallway i would imagine something with straights

idk what though

[heady frost]

just added the consumable type condition for the "when a card is bought" and "when a consumable is used" triggers!

i remember this being for implementation of a vanilla joker but i have forgotten which one...

[umbral stag]

yay

[heady frost]

oh it was for constellation

[lapis mauve]

i dont see the consumable type thing

only consumable held

[heady frost]

yeah i forgot to push changes

changes should be pushed now

[lapis mauve]

alright

[heady frost]

give it a min for the site to update and then refresh lol

[crude trail]

.

[heady frost]

tension, relief

[heady dock]

wait holy shit thats jens almanac

jens almanac is... found media?

[heady frost]

bro has the lost runes

[crude trail]

the mod was passed on to me by a friend before they removed it

I have the .zip file on my desktop

[heady frost]

i still dont like how they forbid anyone from continuing with the mod

[heady dock]

idk i feel like it was inevitable for the mod to die out due to how wierdly the developer acted about it

i really wish it got the chance to become more polished

[crude trail]

that mod had a great future

[heady dock]

i think the straddle mechanic is interesting but i dont like how it already punishes you just for playing optimally

[toxic aspen]

For defining a specific joker I’m kinda confused how I would define the joker I’m currently trying to mod

[heady dock]

you mean a joker from your mod right?

[toxic aspen]

Yeah

[heady dock]

it would be j_<mod prefix>_<joker name without spaces or caps>

you can find the mod prefix in the mod metadata

[toxic aspen]

Thank you very much

[heady frost]

i should probably add like a little message about this because this is by far the most asked question

also i still need to add the ability to set your own prefix for jokers lol

[heady dock]

maybe just allow a preview of the joker key in the website

[heady frost]

yeah that would be good

currently it generates keys from slugifying the name

also added a condition to check if poker hand has already been played, adding card sharp to the list

gonna do matador now because i think that ones easy

[outer axle]

This is a lot but, are these too broken?

[crude trail]

yes, a bit

[heady frost]

they are all mythical tho

[umbral stag]

is that a fatass misprint

[toxic aspen]

For editing hands and setting ante level even tho I put the operation on subtract both the values went down to one instead of subtracting one

[crude trail]

I'd better name it Fatass Misprint.

[nimble island]

did you use jokerforge for this?

[elfin nest]

Why's mr bones an empty child with abandonment issues, a half sister, and a brother who's got the flu

(the knight)

[heady frost]

also added boss blind triggered condition, so matador is here yay

[outer axle]

For everything except the Mythical thinge

[crude trail]

i love how they update the joker forge every hour and this contact creator to people

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[toxic aspen]

I’m doing something wrong all the effects on my custom joker are triggering twice when I purchase it

Even tho the value is set to one

[heady frost]

what joker are you trying to create?

[heady frost]

and its giving you 70 dollars too?

[toxic aspen]

Yeah

[heady dock]

cryptid type shit
i like them though theyre very well made

[heady frost]

send the saved json for it

[toxic aspen]

Will do momentarily thank u

Wait the json for the whole mod?

[crude trail]

I think when a joker had an effect on face cards they had custom joker

[heady dock]

yeah thats the only json you can get

[heady frost]

in the meantime, i added the double probability effect, mainly for oops all 6s support

[harsh locust]

This only applies on existing and played faces?

[crude trail]

you who believe that in what quantity of mult or chips its rarity is changed?

[crude trail]

played

[crude trail]

HELL YEAH

[heady frost]

also i found the issue that was causing the nil in nil bug

so i will fix that now because thats annoying

[heady frost]

should be fixed

[heady frost]

will take a look now

[heady dock]

well this eventually get parameters for by how much the probabilities get modified

[heady frost]

yes, but i need to update the probability system to match newer smods

because very recently they overhauled the system so you can do additive probability and stuff

really cool stuff

so when i port the new system into jokerforge, i will overhaul that effect to be much cooler

[heady dock]

can you also modify denominators with the new system

[heady frost]

from what i believe you can, i have not looked into it too much so i may be wrong on it

[heady frost]

this is the wrong json, i meant the json from the site for save mod

[nimble island]

Do the placeholder jokers need to have the joker signs on the sides?

[heady frost]

no not at all go wild haha

[nimble island]

great

[nimble island]

might make one tommorow

[heady frost]

would be very fire, i want it to get to a point where there is like 100 or something and when you create a new joker you will see one you havent seen before

when i introduce custom consumables and stuff i might have to get people to make placeholders for those too lol

[heady frost]

thank u very much

[toxic aspen]

Thank u

[heady frost]

just had a quick look, i see the issue. i think to solve this i would need to make a new trigger "when this card is bought", similar to "when this card is sold"

[heady frost]

thats so good, does it even work tho thats the question

[toxic aspen]

Ohh okay gotcha

[heady frost]

i will make this trigger after i implement splash

[toxic aspen]

All good no rush thank you

[crude trail]

I put the ? because it is impossible to get a 7 on the dice

[heady frost]

splash has been implemented (Iliterally just the splash effect lol)

i will have add the "when this joker is bought" trigger to the checklist because i think it requires changing quite a few different conditions and whatnot

[toxic aspen]

Gotcha

I’ll come up with some other ideas in the mean time lmfao

[heady frost]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/blob/main/README.md here is the updated checklist

[heady dock]

would it be possible to turn lucky card triggered into a general "listed probability succeeded" condition? idk if that would be possible with steamodded though

[heady frost]

would probably need to hook into all the probability stuff in balatro to accomplish that i think, not something joker forge would be able to do

[icy crow]

Isn't it possible on the dev version of steam modded?

[heady frost]

smods has a context.other_card.lucky_trigger

[heady frost]

if smods has a nice function i can use like context.other_card.lucky_trigger then that would be fire

[icy crow]

I recall something with the new probability change

[heady frost]

oh they might be adding that alongside that then

i will look into it once joker forge is ported

[heady dock]

i mean tbf even if it was possible idk how that would work if for example a chance based scoring joker triggered on a card when you want to have it trigger on an effect from the card itself

[heady frost]

yeah it would be crazy

[hidden oriole]

im gonna create 3x mult splash

thanks

[nimble island]

Magikarp material

[heady dock]

what if splash was yellow

wait no

nvm

[hidden oriole]

lol

[icy crow]

Wrong keyboard moment?

[hidden oriole]

mhm

[outer axle]

monster of a card

[nimble island]

Art?

[outer axle]

still have to make it lmao

[nimble island]

13+ rules is crazy tho

[outer axle]

yeah, currently when scoring ends the card sets mult and chips to 0

gonna change the effect to reduce it

[olive agate]

care for someone to tell me how do i solve this problem?

[crude trail]

a name needs to be changed in the main.lua is specified in line 1090

[olive agate]

but i dont know which one, could you tell me which one?

[hidden oriole]

you might have missing [s] in joker discriptions

[crude trail]

is not for #1#?

[olive agate]

i did that

[crude trail]

try to delete the #1# by trying

[sand mural]

rq may i get some help with this?
it does everything but give the mult during scoring
(and also dosent update the card to show how much mult it has like ride the bus would)

[olive agate]

then after that?

[crude trail]

start the game and see if it was that or something else

[olive agate]

and if it doesnt?

[crude trail]

show what you did in the joker forge

[olive agate]

ok

[crude trail]

I am talking about the rules

[olive agate]

oh hold on

[olive agate]

@crude trail

[sour spear]

infinite

that is sooooo balanced

[olive agate]

i mean it is from a cryptid extension

[sour spear]

ofcourse

why wouldnt i thought of that

[crude trail]

you did not add a variable to the chips

[olive agate]

i know

i just forgot to do that

[crude trail]

add a quantity and it should work

[olive agate]

i did

[crude trail]

How much did you put in?

[olive agate]

about less than a minute

what do you mean?

[crude trail]

how many chips did you add to the effect

[olive agate]

10

and it doubles so its starts off with 10 then 20 then 40 and so on

[crude trail]

you created a variable?

[olive agate]

yep

[crude trail]

Did you do this?

[olive agate]

yep

but instead of increasing, it doubles

[crude trail]

you did not set the operator to multiply

[olive agate]

oh, i forgot that too

i'll patch it later though

wait no i did

i did that

[crude trail]

I'm already very lost, isn't it the variable?

[olive agate]

yes

[crude trail]

I don't know what it can be

[olive agate]

i fixed it

dont worry

[crude trail]

a relief for me

you know you ran out of ideas when you create many variants of the same joker

[olive agate]

didnt you made that?

[crude trail]

the ideas were smuffered

[olive agate]

oh ok

[sour spear]

i have that same card made but its just blueprint but left

[olive agate]

btw i added a blank card that basically does nothing

[lyric cradle]

hiker and sixth sense are wrong rarity

[meager ginkgo]

do you think you could add a functionality that will double probability but only for certain cards/suits/enhancements/jokers

note i dont know if this is feasible or not im not a programmer

just putting my ideas forward

[olive agate]

what about halve all probobilities?

[woeful bough]

does anyone know how to make this work?

[exotic quartz]

is there any way to edit random/leftmost card scored on certain rules? I'm trying to get royal flush to polychrome cards, but it only lets me add a card to deck, not edit anything.

[woeful bough]

he's planning on it

but no not currently

[exotic quartz]

ok thank you

[olive agate]

is there a way to make it apply a random edition to a random joker?

[woeful bough]

yes

[olive agate]

how?

[woeful bough]

this might work?

if not then no, there is no way currently

[olive agate]

btw i'm actually making my modpack into an extention for cryptid

[woeful bough]

cool

[olive agate]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1290482086247010375 heres the link

[harsh locust]

How do you make “Dealt XMult is based on Set Game Speed”

[woeful bough]

not a thing, and probably wont be

[harsh locust]

Rip

[woeful bough]

id assume gamespeed is hard

MY MOD IS ON BMM!!!

only hurt my brain

for like 3 hours

[olive agate]

congrats

[harsh locust]

Yahimod has a joker that deals xmult depending on game resolution

[olive agate]

true

[woeful bough]

again, that is because it was fully coded in lua

[olive agate]

and theres FISH

[woeful bough]

this is a codegen

[woeful bough]

coding yourself allows much more opportunities than using/designing joker forge

[exotic quartz]

is it just me or are the limits on conditions/effects based on triggers kinda arbitrary

[heady dock]

as in?

i mean not every trigger context supports every effect, but thats just a limitation of the game itself

[woeful bough]

do you mean conditions and effects should be able to just exist without a trigger?

[exotic quartz]

I mean that choosing something like When a Card is Destroyed isn't allowed to do a lot of things, like something simple as adding Mult

[heady dock]

well thats because its a scoring effect during a context that isnt scoring

if you wanted to make a scaling effect you would just use a variable that you modify when a card is destroyed