Joker Forge - Create Balatro Mods Visually and Export the Lua Files (WIP)

[lapis mauve]

oh

yeah you made it 2 pixels taller

it should be 71 by 95

not 73 by 95

[lusty wagon]

darn it im dumb

[stiff bobcat]

YAY MY JOKERS ARE IN BALALA

[lusty wagon]

fixed it

[stiff bobcat]

lets see if i find them in a run

[heady frost]

#1# is just the variable reference, if you had two variables, the second one would show up as #2#, and so on. in game it will be the actual variable value. also, you probably dont wanna use linebreaks in the description, you are better off using [s] tags

[heady frost]

if u want to spawn them, you can use the debug plus mod

[lapis mauve]

made some thingies on the github :D

[heady frost]

yeah i just seem them now, thank u kindly

i will get to them today

[lapis mauve]

no problem

[heady frost]

also want to add a new thing for values, the ability to set a low and high number and the value randomly picks between them, like misprint

[lapis mauve]

yeah definitely

[heady frost]

its literally only for misprint but i dont doubt ppl will find creative stuff for it

[lapis mauve]

hear me out

you make it an option for variables

for even more versatility

[heady frost]

that would be pretty cool, you can select two variables and it randomly picks a range between them

and the system should even work for incrementing variables with a random range

[lapis mauve]

i was thinking more of variables that just have a range attached to them

as a toggle of sorts

[heady frost]

what do u mean

[lapis mauve]

like when you create a new variable, you can click on a button to make it a range

with an A and B

and it just chooses between any of those

[heady frost]

oooh i get you, then the value always chooses randomly

that would be fire

i will look into it once the system is already in place

randomness is good

[lapis mauve]

gambling 🔥

[lapis mauve]

yup, only for those variables tho

i mean of course you still have to have non-random variables

[heady frost]

yeah exactly, but it would be just a cool little feature

[lapis mauve]

mhm

[stiff bobcat]

why is wee a rabbit

[heady frost]

the image for wee joker is the wrong size lol, i need to resize it properly so it fits in joker forge

[heady dock]

im pretty sure wee just uses the regular joker sprite but downscales it, so that creates issues with adding it in here

[sour spear]

will other jokers get to be small like wee joker

[heady frost]

you can still make small jokers by just using transparency, right now i could just downscale the image at it would be fine lol

[sour spear]

ah alright

[heady frost]

also just added a range mode! making jokers like misprint possible

[sour spear]

wow amazing

[lyric cradle]

lets go

[lapis mauve]

HELL YEAH

EVEN MORE RNG

[nimble island]

1 minute joker (im doing 3 jokers where I have different times for them this is the worst)

oh it was 2 minutes

[sour spear]

peak

[icy crow]

Photosynthesis
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211128811316576327/1391139709756903576/image.png?ex=686b7810&is=686a2690&hm=ff03871c58deac356e034fd0d544a45a99aeb856c021152550241b5306df4dd8&
(No this is not from joker forge but me like sharing)

[glass canopy]

FINALLY

[heady frost]

crazy effect

[icy crow]

Ikr

[hidden oriole]

use ms paint

[lusty wagon]

i have winders so i have that paint instead and i already know that now just forgot to change it

[lapis mauve]

Winders 😭

[dim fiber]

i just came back to check up on the balatro modding scene and saw this

this is great for any newcomers who want to create their own jokers without worrying about the game crashing because you either forgot something in the code or you made a typo somewhere

[heady frost]

i appreciate it, just wait until a few months time then hopefully it will be much nicer lol

[dim fiber]

although one nitpick i have is that i don't know where the multiplier is located in the block palette

[olive agate]

will it be possible to make our own rarities soon?

[icy crow]

.

@olive agate

[olive agate]

ok then

[nimble island]

Wait couldn’t rarities just be as easy as making variables but with colours

[icy crow]

Actually ^

[nimble island]

Im not saying to do this first but just that it’s less difficult than I thought

[icy crow]

Creating code for rarities isn't the hard part, the hard part will probably be recognizing the rarities everywhere else, unless it's going to be like the joker key

[olive agate]

did i do something wrong?

[icy crow]

Did you use ' or "

[rain mason]

woa
iz :3er

[icy crow]

Or used shift+enter

[glass canopy]

:3

[rain mason]

what about the democra- /j

[olive agate]

wdym?

[icy crow]

In the description

Of the joker

[swift night]

Is there any way to add a chance to the joker for appearing in the shop?

[olive agate]

neither

i think

[glass canopy]

mrrrp

[icy crow]

Probably one of them

If not quotes then you used enter

Is there a new line somewhere instead of [s]

[heady frost]

i would suspect there is a newline in the description

i need to disable that completely tbf lol

[olive agate]

ok then

[heady frost]

the shop appearal rates go off of the jokers rarity, theres no way to change it unfortunately

[lapis mauve]

wait so do any of these work?

[heady frost]

the top 2 rows do do things but they havent been fully implemented

the other ones do

[lapis mauve]

could we get an "all consumables" option for the sell value thing

anyway putting my mod ingame but its just not showing up

shows up here

just not ingame

dont see anything wrong with the code though

[heady frost]

add this to the github as an issue as a reminder lol, good suggestion

[heady frost]

im sorry i dont know how bmm works at all

if i was you id just copy the files over

to your mods folder

[lapis mauve]

i did

[heady frost]

is it in a nested folder instead

send a ss

[lapis mauve]

nope

[heady frost]

i have no clue, try adding this file into the folder to see if smods wants that idek

[lapis mauve]

yeah i tried that before

deleted it cuz it wasnt doing anything

might be because i have other mods?

but that's strange, they shouldnt interfere either way

[heady frost]

yeah the file doesnt do anything i need to sort it out but it was worth a shot because idek with smods sometimes

is it showing up with your other mods in the balatro mods

[lapis mauve]

no

[heady frost]

send me your json and ill export it and try to open it in my game

[lapis mauve]

gotcha

[heady frost]

yeah im also getting this issue thats crazy

[lapis mauve]

Strange

[heady frost]

i figured it out

it is your version number

i thought smods would allow ~ but they dont

and it causes it to just not be registered

[lapis mauve]

ah

[heady frost]

i will remove that bit of text lol

insane catch

beautiful art btw

[lapis mauve]

oh, thanks!

dealer was a pain to make haha

just cause i wanted to get the design just right

[heady frost]

its looking so fire honestly

[lapis mauve]

7 ball is just the old 8 ball but with a different color and number

thank you so much, that means a lot to me <3

what the silly

bro dipped 😔

also not sure if contains is working

since mismatched socks still gains chips on three, four, and five of a kind

thats weird, the order seems to be fine on x2

wow thats a low quality x1

there

And there should probably be an option to disable messages all together

Instead of it just having the default

[heady frost]

some messages are default to smods, when you add mult, it will create the +mult message for example, you are right tho that is a good idea

[lapis mauve]

Not sure how exactly you automatically create a 2x or 1x but it should just be rescaling

It’s weird that the 1x version is messed up

[dim fiber]

one thing i do wish would be added in a future update of this is custom sfx without needing to go into the mod files just to do that

[turbid jetty]

Can this thing import in mobile?

[nimble island]

i dont think mods are possible on mobile

[turbid jetty]

😥

[icy crow]

Found this https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/s/zNB2Awkl1s

Dunno if it works

[heady frost]

almost finished in the random suits/ranks functionality

castle/mail-in-rebate should be replicable in a few hours just cleaning up the code

[heady frost]

the site actually uses 2x versions everywhere. when you upload a 1x, it converts it in the background before showing it to you, this is so it doesnt look blurry on the site. then when it reaches code gen, it makes a 1x out of the 2x, but i guess it makes it a bit wrong

[heady dock]

will the random rank/suit functionality have some kind of "ancient joker mode" parameter (as in if it chooses fully randomly like ancient joker or based on the cards in your deck like everything else)

[heady frost]

by default it already chooses fully randomly

i do want to limit it to what you have, but that will be after this initial version is out

it turns out this functionality is a lot more involved than i thought haha

[heady dock]

yeah i remember watching a video on how idol works, it seems really complicated

[toxic aspen]

Mods are very possible on mobile!

On iOS and android in fact

[crude trail]

Do any of you know how to subtract money? I am very lost.

[tribal bough]

okay, so I tried to make a scaling +chips joker, but it doesn't work at all
main idea is - when hand is played, 1 in 3 to choose a random card, increase internal chip value, give that value to every scoring card, and then destroy chosen card
but probability is completely broken?? joker description includes it's chances, but in game it reads like "nil in nil", and it destroys every played card, not even giving chips, and when I tried to test it with custom deck mod, it just crashes game

[glass canopy]

what works for me is

1. create a variable and set it to a negative value
2. do an "add money" and set it to that variable

[heady frost]

damn i could just allow the ability to set dollars to negative haha

[heady frost]

send me your exported json and i will take a look at it

[crude trail]

THANK YOU, I just tried and it works

[lapis mauve]

i mean i dont know why there's a check for if var1 is 0

and carddestr doesnt do anything either

[tribal bough]

I hoped it would force it once per hand

but apparently no

[lapis mauve]

i mean you can make it a boolean

but that just doesnt do anything in general

[crude trail]

did the chicot or its effect of deactivating blind boss work for anyone?

[lapis mauve]

i dont know what you expected

[heady frost]

it worked when i tested, mightve been broken since tho lol

[heady frost]

disregarding the logic, it is strange that it is showing nil in nil, i will look into this more for sure

[tribal bough]

thank you

[crude trail]

since it was added to never worked I created many copies but none of them worked.

[heady frost]

there might be an issue with passive triggers in general, I will do some testing on this

in the meantime I have just been working on a system that allows you to make cards like mail-in rebate and castle, will push the changes is like 10 mins

[crude trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[heady frost]

just added the ability to create 2 new types of variables, suit variables, and rank variables. these allow you to create jokers like castle, ancient joker, etc. just added them to the vanilla reforged page. if anyone has any issues with them let me know because these were a bitch to program and i expect issues lol

i need to add a new type of variable now 'poker hand variable' literally just for to do list 😈

[umbral stag]

i think somebody should check up on mail-in rebate

[heady frost]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

most of the images are like that idk why i assume its cos of transparency around the images lol

i dont know base64 off of the top of my head unfortunately

[heady dock]

there should be an option for rank/suit variables to start on a random variable if possible, since thats how those variables work for most vanilla jokers

[heady frost]

it was originally, but then i realised it didnt really matter because in my codegen it was just defaulting to a value anyways

the issue with starting randomly is it will require a complete refactor of how the code works

because the jokers generated by jokerforge have to be self contained, i have to be careful about what actually gets initiated

maybe in the future i will add proper random initialisation tho

[heady dock]

can i put a suit variable into the text formatting color to make it change to correspond to the current suit?

[glass canopy]

this should add custom suits and ranks

[heady frost]

its on the list but quite far down lol

[heady frost]

i dont believe so, unfortunately you will have to use orange for now, it will take a bit more programming to set something like that up

[glass canopy]

this tool should have the ability to create your own jokers

🧠

[nimble island]

thats actually a really cool idea

ngl

and it should be called jokerforge

[glass canopy]

ooh yeah that's a really good name

[nimble island]

and we should be really helpful and actively reply to the community

[glass canopy]

and we should add the base game jokers for people to base their ideas off of

[nimble island]

and we should reply to this message in 2 minutes and 44 seconds

wait for it

[frank flax]

hi, i have a problem, i made a joker that has a 1 in 10 chance of making a copy of a random joker and making it negative when selecting a blind, and there is a 1 in 25 chance of self destructing when selecting a blind

but it rearly copy and it often destroy himself, ever with the odds

i have tried it countless times but it keeps self destructing

pls help

[crimson silo]

Well, this is how chances work

20 dollars from lucky card is 1 in 15 but you can get it first time you score lucky card

I suggest you increase the odds or do something with internal variables like it'll roll for destructing itself, then add 1 to count and display it in description, and when count reaches 3 it'll destroy itself

[swift night]

@heady frost are you going to add an "else" statement?

[frank flax]

i don't understand

the code is simple and clear

[crimson silo]

That's just luck, you can either roll 1 in 25 every time or never roll it

Or roll it 50% of times

or 75%

[hidden oriole]

huh and my jojer with one in two chance of triggering if played hand is flush never trigered when i played them

[crimson silo]

Blood stone triggers on only a few heart cards or even on none most of the time, the more ways and time for it to trigger the more (maybe) it will trigger

[nimble island]

its a 50/50 chance, either it happens or it doesnt

[heady dock]

small sample size issue, if you tried it like 1000 times or so you would see statistics more accurate to the actual chance

youre just getting unlucky basically

[heady frost]

else?

you can already do that

[swift night]

Yeah?

[heady frost]

this is how you would do an else

you make two rules with different conditions

and the same trigger

[swift night]

Like there are the condition blocks, but if the condition is not met?

[swift night]

Aahhhhh okok

[heady frost]

in this example, if its a card is scored and it has a gold seal, it gets 10 dollars, if not, it gets 5

if you get what i mean

the code gen sees this and dynamically creates conditional rules

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/wiki/Creating-a-Joker-in-Joker-Forge#conditional-triggers-2-rules-with-the-same-trigger

[swift night]

Now I understand thank you , I didn't think that it did an else of the condition isn't met

[umbral stag]

i have a joker that does this but it doesn't like when it's in-game

the only things changed from its calculate function were the name of the pseudoseed, the color of the creation bg, and the generic sound (since it seems that creating a tag plays the sound anyway)

...
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.hand and not context.end_of_round and not context.blueprint then
            if context.other_card:is_suit("Clubs") then
                if pseudorandom("theduo_topiary_tree") < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
                    SMODS.calculate_effect({func = function()
                        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                            func = function()
                                local random_tags = {"tag_uncommon", "tag_rare", "tag_negative", "tag_foil", "tag_holo", "tag_polychrome", "tag_investment", "tag_voucher", "tag_boss", "tag_standard", "tag_charm", "tag_meteor", "tag_buffoon", "tag_handy", "tag_garbage", "tag_ethereal", "tag_coupon", "tag_double", "tag_juggle", "tag_d_six", "tag_top_up", "tag_speed", "tag_orbital", "tag_economy"}
                                local selected_tag = pseudorandom_element(random_tags, pseudoseed("create_tag"))
                                add_tag(Tag(selected_tag))
                                play_sound('holo1', 1.2 + math.random() * 0.1, 0.4)
                                return true
                            end
                        }))
                        return true
                    end}, card)
                    card_eval_status_text(context.blueprint_card or card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, { message = "+1 Tag", colour = G.C.FILTER })
                end
            end
        end
    end
...

this obviously isn't the plaec to ask about crashes, but i just thought i'd post this here since the code is the exact same from jokerforge

[heady frost]

nah its 100% the place for jokerforge code crashes and stuff

lemme try and replicate it

[heady frost]

other than the crash it looks fine, that is what it is meant to be doing

[umbral stag]

i mean yes

[heady frost]

dw im testing it now

[umbral stag]

also the reason why is because some of the code is a bit wrong i guess

[heady frost]

im not getting a crash, even when changing the colkour, message and removing the sound

[umbral stag]

this is what it should be, it seems

calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.hand and not context.end_of_round and not context.blueprint then
        if context.other_card:is_suit("Clubs") then
            if pseudorandom("theduo_topiary_tree") < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
                SMODS.calculate_effect({func = function()
                    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                        func = function()
                            local selected_tag = pseudorandom_element(G.P_TAGS, pseudoseed("create_tag")).key
                            local tag = Tag(selected_tag)
                            tag:set_ability()
                            add_tag(tag)
                            play_sound('holo1', 1.2 + math.random() * 0.1, 0.4)
                            return true
                        end
                    }))
                    return true
                end}, card)
                card_eval_status_text(context.blueprint_card or card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, { message = "+1 Tag", colour = G.C.FILTER })
            end
        end
    end
end

[heady frost]

i think mine was generating that

wait

no ur right, code gen was fucking up

[umbral stag]

the thing that was causing the crash was the absence of

tag:set_ability()
add_tag(tag)

[heady frost]

i will alter it now

[umbral stag]

alr

[heady frost]

i still was not getting a crash tho but you are right that is better code

[umbral stag]

well it might just be inconsistent then

[heady frost]

yeah which is never good, ill fix it now, thank you for that insight

[umbral stag]

yea

[heady frost]

changes should be pushed, lemme know if thats all good

[umbral stag]

also also apparently there is zero purpose to putting

if context.cardarea == G.jokers ... then

in joker definitions

[heady frost]

this is just an artifact of the code generation. the way the code gen works is it basically goes down the file, filling out what comes next like a conveyer line, if there is code x that is used for specifically y, but doesnt affect anything else, the code gen will just add it for the sake of consistency.

[umbral stag]

i see

[heady frost]

it will probably be fixed over time when the code generation becomes much more advanced than it is, but for now i am keeping it as simple as it needs to be.

atleast until i get everything sorted (including consumables, decks, editions, etc.)

then i will refine things more. right now im more concerned about quickly getting features out there so i have a good idea of what needs to be added when i do eventually refactor into the perfect(TM) code gen lol

[umbral stag]

yea

[crude trail]

True...

[heady dock]

truth joker

[crude trail]

I'm going to name it that

[hidden oriole]

truker/truthker

[crude trail]

what I don't know is what its effect will be

[molten seal]

this is really cool

[heady frost]

just added the 'free rerolls' and 'discount items' passive effects. now astronomer and chaos the clown can be added to the list. let me know if you guys have any troubles with them, it took a big rewrite into how passive effects work but they should be more consistent now.

i will get around to all the bugs and features on the github issues page, dont worry. its just priority is finishing off the rest of the vanilla effects (only 24 jokers to go)

[slate glen]

how to give myself unlimited free rerolls in one easy step

@heady frost for the shop availability checkbox, does that include buffoon packs?

or would a joker still be able to appear in those

[heady frost]

yes, joker is removed completely

well it should... but yes

[slate glen]

epic

finally I can make my back to the future joker set

imagined a delorean that can time travel between different states by playing a pair of 8s

[heady frost]

sounds fire

[slate glen]

but having the other states appearing in the shop would ruin it a bit

[heady frost]

i could even make an effect that is like "change sprite" and you upload a new sprite into that effect

that would be cool

[heady frost]

ooohh i get you now

separate jokers

[slate glen]

yeah literally 3 jokers

[heady frost]

and they destroy and get reborn

[slate glen]

where playing the hand destroys that joker and creates the new one

yep

[heady frost]

very fire

actually very creative too, its like you can cycle between them with the pair of 8s

[slate glen]

wouldn’t be possible without another new feature added by mr forge the goat

[heady frost]

and 88

thank u, hopefully in a couple of weeks you can add a custom consumable that does some more shit

tomorrows agenda is trying to get another couple of vanilla jokers implemented, ive left myself with the hard ones unfortunately

i will have another shot at smeared and pareidolia 😈

[slate glen]

blueprint I assume

[heady frost]

blueprint will be the final boss

[slate glen]

understandable

[heady frost]

jokers that are left now:

Uncommon
Ceremonial Dagger: When Blind is selected, destroy Joker to the right and permanently add double its sell value to this Mult.
Four Fingers: All Flushes and Straights can be made with 4 cards.
Glass Joker: This Joker gains X0.75 Mult for every Glass Card that is destroyed.
Hiker: Every played card permanently gains +5 Chips when scored.
Hologram: This Joker gains X0.25 Mult every time a playing card is added to your deck.
Lucky Cat: This Joker gains X0.25 Mult every time a Lucky card successfully triggers.
Showman: Joker, Tarot, Planet, and Spectral cards may appear multiple times.
Smeared Joker: Hearts and Diamonds count as the same suit, Spades and Clubs count as the same suit.
Shortcut: Allows Straights to be made with gaps of 1 rank.
Trading Card: If first discard of round has only 1 card, destroy it and earn $3.

Rare
Blueprint: Copies ability of Joker to the right.
Brainstorm: Copies the ability of leftmost Joker.
Constellation: This Joker gains X0.1 Mult every time a Planet card is used.
Driver's License: X3 Mult if you have at least 16 Enhanced cards in your full deck.
Matador: Earn $8 if played hand triggers the Boss Blind ability.
Oops! All 6s: Doubles all listed probabilities.
Sixth Sense: If first hand of round is a single 6, destroy it and create a Spectral card.

Common
Credit Card: Go up to -$20 in debt.
Splash: Every played card counts in scoring.
To Do List: Earn $4 if poker hand is a [Poker Hand], poker hand changes at end of round.

Legendary
Canio: This Joker gains X1 Mult when a face card is destroyed.

wait sixth sense might be doable

[slate glen]

wait so Mime actually works?

hm I suppose it would

[heady frost]

yeah mime should be working

[slate glen]

I think I’ve mentioned it before but am still in need of a way to trigger cards held in hand at the end of the round instead of on every hand

ie the way gold cards and blue seals work

i got a joker that enhances aces to lucky cards when held in hand, and it gives Card Modified every time it recognizes an ace in the hand, even if they’re already lucky

end of round would be a cleaner way to do it

[heady frost]

this should be fairly easy to make as a new trigger "When a Card is Held in Hand at End of Round"

bit wordy but it works

ill add it now

[slate glen]

that would be lovely

i think it’s possible to achieve this through a remaining hands trigger, but it’s just not as clean

[storm hamlet]

how does the naming work for targeting specific jokers that are a part of the mod itself?

[heady frost]

j [modprefix] [jokerid]

[storm hamlet]

thanks

[heady frost]

j_custommod_cooljoker for example

[storm hamlet]

👍

[heady frost]

card held in hand at end of round trigger should be added now, its completely untested but i have faith in my codegen that it just works out of the box (i dont)

[crude trail]

I'm watching in real time as they add features

[heady frost]

i work fast (i have nothing better to do)

[crude trail]

I owe you my life for creating this wonderful work of art at last I can create my dream jokers without having to learn programming

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[woeful bough]

it could just be an option in the card held in hand trigger

[crude trail]

actually the lua language is very basic and easy to learn.

[woeful bough]

im lazy

[heady frost]

it being an option in the existing trigger would generate the exact same code lol

[woeful bough]

oh

[heady frost]

i suppose it could be a condition but technically smods classifys it as what i would call a trigger (context)

[heady frost]

i have been developing it in great pleasure

i am still surprised ppl are using the stuff im making lmao

like if i push an update that breaks everything, people will actually notice

hopefully this makes for a good addition to my cv when i go off and get a j*b

[woeful bough]

luckily the community isnt so big its impossible to find help

someone might know why it broke

i thought this would be WAY more popular than it is

[heady frost]

i think when consumables get added and i overhaul the ui, more people might use it

but also its not that well known because to find out it exists, you have to go specifically to the modding-chat in the balatro discord server

which only has people who are already willing to make mods, there is probably more people that would use it if they knew it wasnt so hard to make balatro mods

but im super pleased with the attention it has garnered already

[woeful bough]

yea

im working on a placeholder joker

[crude trail]

I hope that from now on this site will become famous because it is really very good and easy to understand

[heady sky]

Just kind of trying this tool out, enjoying it so far. Wanted to ask, if I wanted to create a food joker (one that destroys itself after a value ticks to zero, like Popcorn or Ice Cream), this is how I'd do it, right?

[toxic aspen]

I’m about to try to make my first joker with this I’m basically going to make hieroglyph but in joker form but it also gives you 30 bucks on purchase

[olive agate]

i made nicolas's journal

[olive agate]

one of my own planned mods

[heady frost]

yeah thats basically it, just have an internal variable as a counter then destroy self

you could even add a custom message to the destroy self effect that indicates its a food or something lol

[heady frost]

thank u i appreciate it greatly ❤️

[crude trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[toxic aspen]

How do I add -1 ante to my joker?

Like on purchase -1 ante

[nimble island]

Yurrr

[heady sky]

Another question: is there a way to give an effect universal priority? This joker is intended to function like Space Joker, upgrading High Card if High Card is played while at zero discards. The effect works, however it triggers after any jokers positioned to the left of it

[woeful bough]

placeholder for the site

[heady frost]

not implemented yet unfortunately

[toxic aspen]

Gotcha thanks for letting me know

It was the first semi good joker idea I had so always good to write them down until it’s ready lol

[heady frost]

jokers are usually triggered from left to right anyways, so it makes sense that it triggers after any jokers positioned to the left of it

oh wait i get what you mean

no unfortunately not, there is a trigger i could add though that is basically like "before hand scores"

might do that tomorrow

[heady frost]

i dont think this is hard to do, i will look into it tomorrow and if its doable im make it an effect

[toxic aspen]

Your collaborative efforts are very much appreciated 🙏🙏

[woeful bough]

are vouchers consumables?

nvm

[heady frost]

just added it

[woeful bough]

is there a way to change the price of all packs?

there is "all cards" and "all consumables"

[heady frost]

all cards i believe changes the prices of all cards and all packs too

[woeful bough]

also if i want to raise prices how would i do it

125%?

or -25%

[heady frost]

i didnt even think of that but try -25 lol

see if it works

it might not though

[woeful bough]

it doesnt

[heady frost]

i will add that to the todo list then lol

[woeful bough]

it doesnt let me type in -

[heady frost]

try making a variable with a negative value, then setting the value of discount cards to that variable

that is the work around ive seen people do to get -dollars added

[woeful bough]

i was going to try that

the second you said it

[woeful bough]

was the functionality of "or" on random chances ever added?

[crude trail]

@heady frost one question, do you have a discord server by any chance?

[heady frost]

nah, it will be added after i finish up the rest of the vanilla jokers

[heady frost]

im not really a discord user so theres only here lol

[heady frost]

i like that because it has a chance to do 2 different edit hands/discards which is funny

[woeful bough]

some of them are subtract

the idea is low chance for really bad stuff, slightly higher chance for good stuff

[crude trail]

Joker

[crude trail]

I would recommend having a server

[woeful bough]

W

i was going to do that

but it looks bad in game

takes up to much space

i could change the name to be a cipher

;]/yu

each letter in joker shifted 3 spots on the keyboard (besides K because that is a ' which doesnt work)

[olive agate]

heres the ones i made

[umbral stag]

nonetheless, these are very cool

[crude trail]

code morse

[heady frost]

would be cool but if that was to happen I would need a bunch more people using joker forge to justify it lol

[crude trail]

then we can only wait and see when it blows up.

[novel delta]

I see it happening

[crude trail]

useless idea

[woeful bough]

its cryptid but instead of M its N

[olive agate]

thanks

[olive agate]

well its more of an extension so yes

[umbral stag]

c and q

because uh

idk

[young relic]

give me ideas

[crude trail]

beg for mercy

[woeful bough]

disables the water

boss

[rain mason]

found a bug btw

edition doesn't work as a background color in the joker description preview

[restive elk]

All cards give X1.5 Mult when scored
Lasts 3 Rounds

[woeful bough]

it does it just doesnt change color

[lapis mauve]

i wish the free rerolls one had the settings of discount items

would be nice to make for example rerolls 50% off

[woeful bough]

bo burnham joker

it looks fine

[wild pier]

yes

[icy crow]

Guys one more reaction

[lyric cradle]

2

[woeful bough]

1

[lyric cradle]

-1

[heady dock]

0

[lyric cradle]

-1

[heady dock]

^log_70(69)

[icy crow]

W

[nimble island]

cokeblock whens the mod coming out

it genuinely looks amazing

[woeful bough]

want to add like 50 jokers first

at 23 rn

also a lot of jokers have temporary functions because what i want them to do isnt out yet

i love this song

every new joker i added last night

[lapis mauve]

what are the top 5

[woeful bough]

hand commons like the base game

like flush five

[lapis mauve]

oh

how much do they give

[woeful bough]

except for the rightmost one

that is +8 mult for every empty joker slot

[woeful bough]

here

pretty good flat mult

but also it would be kinda dumb to have any commons by the time you unlock flush five

[stiff bobcat]

Is a "give random enhancement/seal/thing" gonna be added (for something like certificate)

Or is it already possible

[woeful bough]

i dont think seal is

[heady frost]

already possible

[woeful bough]

how would i make this work?

[heady frost]

I wouldn't even know haha

ideally I should add a "first scored" condition

[heady frost]

to make things like this easier

[woeful bough]

i did what you did for hanging chad

but it only gives x8 mult

no retriggers

[woeful bough]

i think having it be under a "position in played hand" would be ideal for more jokers

[heady frost]

yeah that would be fire

[woeful bough]

oh and making vouchers free doesnt work

*nor does using the -25% variable to make shop items cost more

[slate glen]

yeah I’d like that

i wanna make a hanging chad variant where the fifth card is retriggered instead

[sour spear]

will there be a not condition

[woeful bough]

already is

[sour spear]

ok i havent checked

oopsies :3

[heady frost]

that is strange because making them 50% off worked haha

[woeful bough]

also i think this doesnt work

[nimble island]

the jimbo legendary you added would be a really good placeholder for if someone wanted to make a legendary

[woeful bough]

doesnt have a background

[nimble island]

still

looks dope

[woeful bough]

also you can duplicate the legendaries in vanilla reforged

[nimble island]

how do you get the jokers to have the natural curve on the edges, mine are all squares from screenshots

[heady dock]

Just save the image instead of screenshotting

[nimble island]

asesprite doesnt let me, im using the demo

nope

it does

but there is automatically sharp square edges

[heady dock]

Do you have the background set to transparent

[nimble island]

white

ohhh

[heady dock]

Also are you saving it as a png

[nimble island]

wait i cant download it

and its 19 pounds

which im not doing

[nimble island]

ive been screenshotting all of them

[heady dock]

Yeah that would explain the lack of transparent background

[nimble island]

is there any way i can save this in trial version

[heady dock]

Aseprite is open source so you could go through the effort of compiling it yourself

[nimble island]

wdym

[heady dock]

You can compile the source code from the github yourself to get it for free

[nimble island]

idk how to do that

[heady dock]

You could probably find a tutorial somewhere

I havent done it myself so i couldnt tell you how

[woeful bough]

i use photopea for my jokers

its free and online

[icy crow]

I was too lazy for aseprite so I went with pixelorama

[nimble island]

can anyone please please please make the outer corners transparent so it can have smooth corners and so it doesnt look bad

cause i really like this joker

and want it to look goodf

[woeful bough]

GOD DAMN thats big

[nimble island]

well i can resize it

when its cleaned

[nimble island]

hey michael vsause here

[woeful bough]

this?

[nimble island]

lmao yes tysm

[woeful bough]

its resized

[nimble island]

ai will never beat humans

[woeful bough]

ive been watching vsauce while making the mod

[nimble island]

how do i get this into jokerforge

[woeful bough]

wdym

[nimble island]

but the image doesnt change

[outer axle]

Hello, this is causing all cards to be destroyed, did I do anything wrong?

[woeful bough]

screenshot

[nimble island]

i cant just screenshot

the image doesnt change after i click spac.png

[woeful bough]

windows+shift+s

[nimble island]

no ik how to

but it wont show anything

[woeful bough]

?

you have to click open on file explorer

worked for me

[nimble island]

i drag clicked the image you sent and put it into my screenshots and clicked open on file explorer but the joker didnt change

idk

[nimble island]

mine isnt a file

its the swirl logo thing

[woeful bough]

?

[nimble island]

can you send it to me as a file

look

[woeful bough]

when i send the file it sends the image

[woeful bough]

did youy download it

or copy it

[nimble island]

i just dragged it from dc to ss

[woeful bough]

you copied the link then

right click it

click save image

and save it to downloads or wherever you prefer

[nimble island]

no save

[woeful bough]

what?

thats so weird

copy link and open it in your browser

then if it is just a website with an image you should be able to save it there

bruh'

[nimble island]

it isnt just a website its discord

[woeful bough]

@heady frost IDK why but the "This joker is great!" triggers randomly

[heady dock]

discord is a website

that happens to have a desktop application

[woeful bough]

🤯

[heady dock]

oh i misread the thing

[woeful bough]

i meant right clicking it and clicking copy link

[heady frost]

the desktop app is just an instance of a browser that only has discord open, its not even a proper desktop app

[nimble island]

im so lost

[heady frost]

i will take a look now

[nimble island]

i just want space joker in my game

[woeful bough]

i thought that already existed

[nimble island]

not constellation

i mean the one i mead

made

[heady frost]

what do you mean triggers randomly?

[heady dock]

click on image, then right click the thing that pops up to save it

[woeful bough]

i figured out that it only triggers when an even card is scored

[nimble island]

what

there is no pop up

[heady dock]

like this

[heady frost]

when it scores even cards, its meant to apply x mult, when it doesnt, it adds to the value

if you want it to apply x mult also on odds, you have to also put that effect there

[woeful bough]

okay

thanks!

[nimble island]

why tf does that not show up for me

[heady dock]

no clue

[heady frost]

you could open it in browser and save it there

[heady dock]

you could also use the download button in the top right after you click on the image

[nimble island]

huh that worked

ok welp

[woeful bough]

also i think the joker "cypto scam" isnt paying out

[heady dock]

also i have this empty card if you ever need a reference for joker card shape in the future

[woeful bough]

i just delete jimbo and keep the border thats left

[heady frost]

i think this has the same issue, you need to add the add dollars effect to all of the rules that you want to give out dollars

[woeful bough]

alright

[heady frost]

https://github.com/Jayd-H/joker-forge/wiki/Creating-a-Joker-in-Joker-Forge#conditional-triggers-2-rules-with-the-same-trigger

i explain it more in detail in this section

[woeful bough]

the sauce

[heady dock]

hey, jsauce, jimbo here
this joker is great....
...or is it?

[woeful bough]

debug plus moment

[woeful bough]

bro got the description verbatum

and name

[woeful bough]

also the odd rank part is refencing this video

[heady dock]

these numbers are odd
...or are they?

[woeful bough]

ive been watching only vsauce while i work on the mod

im watching him right now

hey, vsauce! micheal here, your computers antivirus is great...
...or is it?

[nimble island]

is there a when card is destroyed effect?

guess not since trading card isnt in

[stiff bobcat]

why doesnt this joker work correctly?

fyi this is what its meant to do

[heady frost]

what is it currently doing

[stiff bobcat]

turning every scoring face card steel

[heady frost]

that is strange, i will look into it

it looks correct

are you using the same internal variable?

[stiff bobcat]

i was thinking maybe its processing all the cards seperately so the variable change doesnt block the other cards from turning steel

[stiff bobcat]

i think i am but ill check

[heady frost]

i reckon a line of code has been misplaced

by code gen

[stiff bobcat]

mhm that was it

forgot to set the custom variable for the code that changes it to 1

[woeful bough]

i pray for "___ scored card in hand"

so hanging chad isnt convoluted

[stiff bobcat]

i mean its not that convoluted

[woeful bough]

well

i also wanted a joker that retriggers the 3rd scored card

[heady frost]

this will come after all of the vanilla effects

i promise im not ignoring the issues, i will wittle down that list

[woeful bough]

ok

here's the current version of the mod if anyone want to play it

[nimble island]

i just opened the cokelatro jokers collection on the mod tab and my game crashed after 2 seconds

must be too good

[woeful bough]

Don't hover over the bo Burnham one until your in game

You can view the collection fine

After your in game tho

[heady frost]

why is that one broken lol

[woeful bough]

this variable

idk why but i dont think it load until in game

[heady frost]

make an issue on the github with the json for your mod and i will get around to it cos that is strange

[nimble island]

MORE LIKE WOKELATRO

BOOM

SOMEONE CLIP TGHAT

[woeful bough]

🚪 ◀️ 🚶‍♂️

[woeful bough]

aliright i added it to the gtihub

[woeful bough]

besides that bug is the mod working?

[heady frost]

thank u very much, like i said i will get around to all the issues when all vanilla joker effects are added. will be fun haha

[woeful bough]

We aren't too far off, right?

[heady frost]

no, not at all

i think theres like 25 left

im working on to do list now

[woeful bough]

Blueprint 💀

[heady frost]

yeah lmao, blueprint are brainstorm i imagine will be hard

but ill figure it out

[heady frost]

i think smods has a function for blueprint effect i can use anyways

[woeful bough]

Oh

I feel like the hard part is making it able to do like "copy joker to the left" or "copy random joker"

[heavy schooner]

the smods blueprint function should do about 90% of the work for you

[heady frost]

that is beautiful then, i might add that one next if its easy lol

[nimble island]

yh its awesome

[heady frost]

added poker hand variables, you can now make jokers with effects like to do list. let me know if anyone finds any bugs or anything with this lol

[flat valve]

woa

cool...

[icy crow]

I thought you mean you were making a list of joker that are left not the actual to-do list 😭

[heady dock]

enhancement variables tomorrow /j

[heady frost]

ideally, if i wanted to add more id change up how the entire variable system works because it could be more extensive and nicer

[heady dock]

yeah having a dropdown menu with a huge list of variable types in the future doesnt seem ideal lmao

[heady frost]

yeah, eventually i want to add an entire drag and drop system too, more like scratch, where you can just drag and drop your variables/gamevars onto different things and it adds it automatically and stuff

hopefully the overhaul to the rulebuilder will be done before i add consumables stuff

[lapis mauve]

yall got any ideas for my mod

i suck at thinking of ideas lfmao

[heady dock]

you should look at the vanilla jokers, you can probably get some good ideas based on them

[lapis mauve]

i tried 😔

[slate glen]

a mod that technically only has 5 jokers, but with very long lines of evolution through taking various actions

[lapis mauve]

Joker evolution

[heady dock]

you could try doing it one of the ways localthunk does it, by first thinking of a design for the joker and then an idea that fits it

[hidden oriole]

no card retriger effect?

[lapis mauve]

There is lol

Somewhere

[heady dock]

there is, not all triggers have it though

it could be that you arent looking in the right trigger if you cant find it

[hidden oriole]

i wnat find triger that retrigers played cards

[heady frost]

card scored

[heady dock]

should be here on any card related effects

[heady frost]

ooooh i love the new block palette

[heady frost]

just added the 'copy joker ability' effect to the passive trigger. this means blueprint and brainstorm can be replicated. let me know if anyone has troubles with this. only 20 jokers left to go...

[young relic]

sprites are a bit fucked rn

or not something fixed it

[outer axle]

uhhh, tried exporting a joker with that ability and nothing came out?

[heady dock]

as in nothing when you put it in the game?

[outer axle]

yeah

[heady dock]

yeah you cant put individual joker exports in the game, they lack all the metadata and a main file so steamodded doesnt recognize it

[outer axle]

I know just there's nothing after the loc vars stuff

[heady dock]

can you send the file?

[heady dock]

strange!

id just open a github issue about it because idk what could cause this

[umbral stag]

it's very hard to tell that this is trying to say "when a card is held in hand at end of round"

the only other one that is similar to this (in being too long) is pretty clear about what it is

i'd suggest that these blocks can wrap around

like this

[spark patio]

could make it a dropdown when you hover over it

[heady frost]

would be much better, i will add it to the github issues list now

[heady frost]

just tried this, it seems to be working for me. maybe try copying blueprint or brainstorm to your local jokers then editing it?

[heady frost]

wait i see the issue, exporting individual jokers have a bug where they dont add passive rules

[outer axle]

Tried exporting the whole thing still didn't work

[heady frost]

with the 'export mod files' button on sidebar?

send the saved mod json

i will have a look

[heady frost]

no the json from the site

cos then i can import it back into the site

[outer axle]

ah okay

[heady frost]

and see the rules and whatnot thats causing it

[outer axle]

I also have a issue where random chance on destroying played cards destroy all cards, don't know if it's me

[heady frost]

oh, its because the code gen doesnt know what to do with two copy joker abilities, i didnt even think of that haha, ill add it as an issue and ill sort it tomorrow

[outer axle]

ah okay nice

[heady frost]

which joker is that

[outer axle]

Leafeon

[heady frost]

this revealed a big bug about specifically random chance and the destroy effect, thank u for sharing this

you are right, the code is incorrectly not generating the random chance check in the right place

[outer axle]

makes sense now

[heady frost]

i will add it as an issue to the github, its specifically when there is a random chance check on a destroy card effect, while there is another effect before it

crazy lol

[outer axle]

damn lmao

[hidden oriole]

happened to me, try reloading site page and downloading mod again

[woeful bough]

does using range mode function as a random copy for copy ability?

like it copies a random joker

[umbral stag]

unsure if anybody else is getting this issue, but very often do pages just blank out, and going back a page doesn't fix it. i have to reload constantly in order to navigate on the site

[heady frost]

i didnt even think of that, try it, it might

[heady frost]

thats really strange

it might be a hosting issue rather than a site issue

will look into it

when that next happens, oper developer options and send me the console logs to see if anythings up with the site

[umbral stag]

i mean it's very easily reproducible

here i'll do it now

[woeful bough]

I gotta fix my sleep bro i fell asleep at 11 AM and woke up at 8 PM

[heady frost]

i knew it was a vercel issue, ill have a look at it tomorrow when im not tired lol

thank u for that

[heady frost]

this also might be an issue with the website being slow in general because it has to do so much in the background. i will need to dedicate a week or two to really optimising it because at the end of the day it is a website, not a desktop application. but thats a job for another day

[umbral stag]

yea

[umbral stag]

purple card is absolutely broken

[crude trail]

I would make a Green Card but I have no idea

[umbral stag]

^1 mult -> ^2.5 mult -> ^4 mult

good god

[crude trail]

if you are right it is better that it is legendary and that it is 0.5

[umbral stag]

also if you're going to make one a variable, just make them both variables 😭

[umbral stag]

oh it's supposed to gain ^0.5 mult and not ^1.5?

still obscenely broken

like exotic-level

[crude trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[umbral stag]

like this barely compares to it

[crude trail]

I do my best to pass all messages to the translator and understand English

[crude trail]

interesting

[crude trail]

I would like to create my own rarity

[umbral stag]

you can do that normally through coding, but not directly through joker forge

[crude trail]

yes i know i tried it once and it crashed the game

[woeful bough]

did they remaster it? i swear it didnt look like that

[crude trail]

is better now and more balanced

[woeful bough]

^0.1

[umbral stag]

i replaced the image in the files so i could get the updated look

[crude trail]

Spectral packs do not appear as often

[umbral stag]

the sprite should be coming soon

[woeful bough]

also this exist

[umbral stag]

yes, but it is very very rare to get that many jimbos OR have that many joker slots in your average run

you have to either

1. get 1 jimbo and stick with ^2 mult for two joker slots
2. get showman and also get extremely lucky to get a ton of jimbos (most almost always being ^5 mult for 5 joker slots, which is okay)
3. delete every common joker to make jimbo appear everywhere
   all of which is very hard to do without more joker slots

[woeful bough]

perkeo a ://spaghetti code card, after you get every food joker it becomes a normal joker

and it can overflow joker slots

ive gotten my jimbotron to ee12

[umbral stag]

yeah i just have to get a legendary joker

[woeful bough]

deck of equilibrium

[umbral stag]

also after every food joker it becomes reserved parking, not jimbo

[crude trail]

okey i don't know how to specify which pack should be skipped

[umbral stag]

try it yourself

[woeful bough]

one of them does

it might be candy

idk

i know one of them makes jimbos

[umbral stag]

-- Pool used by Food Jokers
SMODS.ObjectType({
    key = "Food",
    default = "j_reserved_parking",
    cards = {},
    inject = function(self)
        SMODS.ObjectType.inject(self)
        -- insert base game food jokers
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_gros_michel)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_egg)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_ice_cream)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_cavendish)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_turtle_bean)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_diet_cola)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_popcorn)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_ramen)
        self:inject_card(G.P_CENTERS.j_selzer)
    end,
})

[woeful bough]

i know

one of them

gives jimbo

i hope the webiste gets animation stuff

like spritesheets

[crude trail]

I have no more ideas

[umbral stag]

you could just rephrase this to
“Create 1 Tag when Booster Pack skipped”

where 1 is a variable, obviously

and you just run a for i loop with the config value afterwards

[crude trail]

okey thanks for the tip

[olive agate]

care to explain how do i make it show "currently (blank)"?

[crude trail]

I think it needs more jokers

[olive agate]

so?

[woeful bough]

what do you mean

[olive agate]

you know, when it said "currently give +100 chips" if you know what i mean

[woeful bough]

variable buttons

[olive agate]

oh ok

[novel delta]

Holy peak

I like the Gravity Falls journals

Yummy

[olive agate]

@novel delta what about mine? (ignore the question above the image)

[novel delta]

Oh yeah

All of these are good

[woeful bough]

im bad at humans

[heady dock]

matthew "game" theory patthew

[icy crow]

Saved by Mr bones

[lapis mauve]

yeah isnt that just mr bones

[icy crow]

Ig no 25% requirement?

[woeful bough]

yea

i have an idea

[woeful bough]

how would i make it go back an ante?

[icy crow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[woeful bough]

i tried using Gamevars

but i dont think you can change gamevars

[turbid jetty]

*can anyone tell me what does this do?

[lapis stone]

yo

[heady dock]

Theres no edit ante effect yet 😔

[lapis stone]

borb could u help me

[heady dock]

Yeah?

[lapis stone]

Im like really dumb and im trying to get the joker i made too work

[heady dock]

What do you want it to do

[lapis stone]

get it in my game but when i put it in mods folder it doesnt work

[heady dock]

Are you exporting the individual joker or the whole mod?

[lapis stone]

whole mod

[heady dock]

Does the mod itself not load or is it just one joker

[lapis stone]

doesnt show up in the game at all cus i mean i onyl made 1 joker

[heady dock]

Does the mod appear in the mod list i mean

[lapis stone]

like the mod lsit via files or ingame

[heady dock]

Ingame

[lapis stone]

cus it is in my files but not in the game section

[heady dock]

Could you send a screenshot of your mods folder

[lapis stone]

idk if im doing it right ;x;

[heady dock]

Youre supposed to unzip the folder first

[lapis stone]

like by extracting?

[heady dock]

Yeah

[lapis stone]

yeah but when i do that it turns into 4 things

And im too slow

[woeful bough]

it's opening the exctracted files

[heady dock]

It should be giving you another folder that has 4 things in it

[woeful bough]

ye

[heady dock]

Which it automatically opens

[woeful bough]

unless you turn it off

[lapis stone]

Do I get the 1 that I have set too main file?

[woeful bough]

these 4?

[lapis stone]

pretty much

[heady dock]

Yeah thats what it should look like, just go back to your mods folder and it should be there in a normal folder

[woeful bough]

turn this off

when you extract it

[lapis stone]

I dont get that option

soo

[woeful bough]

also the extracted folder should appear in your mods folder anyway

delete the zip file and keep the extracted one

then itll work

[lapis stone]

k ima see if it worked now

It worked :D ty

[woeful bough]

np

[lapis stone]

my mod is jst 1 super op legendary joker that costs big money llol

[woeful bough]

if you want to test it you can install the mod "debug plus"

[lapis stone]

k

[woeful bough]

and when in game you can click the 3 ontop of the joker in your collection to spawn it

[lapis stone]

i might be scrollling for a while lol

[woeful bough]

also legendaries dont show up in shop unless you click this

[lapis stone]

i clicked it

[woeful bough]

also also your modded joker isnt always at the end of the jokers list

*if you have more mods besides your own

normally it is

[lapis mauve]

Depends on mod priority

Later jokers are later on the list

[woeful bough]

default is 0

[lapis stone]

oh should i up the priority?

[heady dock]

Gives an animation to the text that can be configured with the number in the formatting
1 = letters bounce a bit, like joker names and vanilla self destruct text
2 = cool wavy animation, like victory text and "legendary" in the soul description

[lapis mauve]

Yeah

[woeful bough]

didnt know that

[turbid jetty]

Thx

[wild pier]

[lapis mauve]

I mean it’s still there, but you can change it if you want it to appear at the end of the list

[wild pier]

fafa

[woeful bough]

makes it easier to find

[lapis stone]

where will it appear while its at 0?

[lapis mauve]

Somewhere inbetween

[heady dock]

To find it faster you could find your own mod in the ingame mod list and go to the additions tab

[lapis mauve]

But you can also go to mods > your mod > collection > jokers ingame to find it

Yeah

[woeful bough]

i always forget that exists lol

[lapis stone]

what if i dont have the joker set too auto discover 😭

[heady dock]

Then it appears but as not discovered

[woeful bough]

does anyone know how to find full-res playing card textures

because i need a 7 of spades

got it nvm

[woeful bough]

7 of spades is bad

[lapis mauve]

stinky

[heady dock]

7 of spades more like bad of stinkys

[lapis mauve]

Recycling bin more like trash

[heady dock]

X3 on scored cards is insane

[lapis mauve]

Actually diamonds worse

Actually worst suit is wild cards

[heady dock]

Live rough gem reaction

[woeful bough]

rough gem is too good econ

besides plasma arrowhead is mid unless its ante 3 and under

[lapis mauve]

Eh theres better ones

[woeful bough]

i once had a dusk, a hack, a seltzer and blueprint

with 2 of diamonds

i got so very much money

[lapis mauve]

Not saying its bad

Just saying bloodstone is better

[woeful bough]

always

except when i triggered my cards 9 times and it didnt hit ONCE

fancy

[heady dock]

Full house jokers when

[lapis mauve]

What if you give them actually unique effects

Or just like

I mean i have an idea for a joker thats all

Played aces of spades are destroyed when scored but give a death

Cuz ace of spades are considered cards of death

Idunno

[heady dock]

That sounds pretty good besides the part where you have to get aces of spades

[lapis mauve]

Checkered deck moment

[woeful bough]

it was originally only going to be spades because because the Ace of spades in a deck of cards is usually fancy looking

[lapis mauve]

I mean you only need 2 and then you can start duplicating them

[lapis mauve]

Yeah

That surprised me too

[woeful bough]

but i thought it would look stupid in the collection

[lapis mauve]

But thats cuz its considered the card of death

And thats how i got that idea

[heady dock]

Destroy ace of spades > duplicate other ace of spades > repeat
Doesnt seem very useful if you just do that

[lapis mauve]

Fair

[heady dock]

Make a joker that creates aces of spades 🔥

[woeful bough]

plus im trying to spam commons so the good jokers dont appear as often

so simple jokers that are somewhat usable is the idea

like photochad

[heady dock]

That seems like a really good joker

[woeful bough]

^photochad

is x16 with a base level pair

[heady dock]

Thats 2 jokers

Also its X8

[woeful bough]

2x2x2 is 8

x2

is 16

[heady dock]

Yeah so 16 mult

Not X16 mult from photochad

[woeful bough]

i said with a base level pair

which is x2

[heady dock]

Yes

And that x8 = 16

And thats less mult than you would get with max abstract or banana

[woeful bough]

X10 is good

its called "balancing act" because it resets

so it could be a good way to save yourself to find better jokers

[heady dock]

It reminds me of traffic light or whatever from extra credit

[woeful bough]

idk

i havent played extra credit

[heady frost]

hey guys

[woeful bough]

hello

i think having "leftmost" and "rightmost" as an option for copy joker ability would be useful. aswell as "random joker"?

^speaking of said ability one of mine using it doesnt work

[lyric cradle]

hello

[icy crow]

O/

[lapis mauve]

hello

[heady dock]

What if blueprint was yellow

[woeful bough]

Yellowprint

[lapis mauve]

pissprint

[woeful bough]

Oh

That too

[heady frost]

I thought about this and leftmost is just id 1, rightmost would be good tho

[lapis mauve]

What does the copy function do if the joker isnt copyable

Does it just not function?

[heady frost]

yes