Silver Scythe (FInisher boss blind)

[uneven meadow]

All cards which remain in your hand are debuffed before scoring.
man im just desperate at this point 😭

should this be before or after scoring

[sullen sparrow]

This one is not bad but for the sake of it

[lyric spoke]

before, and, wasnt an idea like this alr suggested? like a ton of times?

[uneven meadow]

i have no idea

if it has been i joined after it had been suggested

[lyric spoke]

idk, maybe not, im not sure, not powerful enough imo

[uneven meadow]

i mean it counters hc AND steel card so its probably very suggested

[uneven meadow]

has ramifications if u dont play it correctly

it counters hc 🥺

[uneven meadow]

vro ........

d1 high card player right here 😂🫵 /silly

[lyric spoke]

most hc / pair builds dont care abt the deck

[mystic hill]

or the cards, for that matter

pretty much all scoring in hc/pair builds come from jokers and planets

[uneven meadow]

ah

yeah

uhm . i still dont think its underpowered though

this is at least similar difficulty to amber acorn, if not harder

[mystic hill]

fair

[lyric spoke]

i only see it working against a steel build or a oneshot build where you have to get your five cards and are like 3/5 and w/o discards

[uneven meadow]

ramifications if u dont play it correctly doesnt mean it has to work against a specific build

[lyric spoke]

amber acorn is free, i don't see the point in comparing it to amber acorn

[unkempt raft]

man just delete this already 😭

[mystic hill]

amber is already a nothingburger blind, unless you need to blueprint a specific joker for all your hands to have a chance at winning

[uneven meadow]

im RTETRYING

BUT ITS TOO

DIFFICULTY

[unkempt raft]

STOP TRYING FINISHER BLINDS THEY SUCKKKKK

[uneven meadow]

the best idea i had got no reactions 🕊️

[uneven meadow]

im . gonna keep trying till i crack the code

i am DEVOTED

5 suggests 0 upvotes . this man never backs down

[lyric spoke]

what i meant with this is that it feels very situational

and (apart from amber acorn) the other finishers have effects that will always affect you

tbh cerulean bell acomplishes what this one tries better

[uneven meadow]

wait i just thought of another . finisher boss blind idea

😭

all cards held in hand give -mult based on their rank value. this is applied again if the cards are retriggered

[lyric spoke]

"When any card is scored, reduce mult by its rank"

hmm...

[uneven meadow]

id rather its cards held in hand though

but that works too

[lyric spoke]

ah sorry

held in hand makes it better against hc / pair

[uneven meadow]

drumroll please

IT COUNTERS HIGH CARD

[lyric spoke]

i like it more

[uneven meadow]

would that be too easy

itd also apply on retrigger

[lyric spoke]

wait, you can just select 5 cards

it doesn't counter hc / pair

[uneven meadow]

change it to

all cards which do not score during the round

[lyric spoke]

what about "played" cards

[lyric spoke]

unscoring ≠ held in hand

[uneven meadow]

this is probably better

[lyric spoke]

but the effect has to be tougher tho

[uneven meadow]

1.5x their value?

[lyric spoke]

could scale based on hand level

[uneven meadow]

ooo

[lyric spoke]

like hand level divided by rank

maybe a bit too complex tho

[uneven meadow]

what if it was just

cards which do not score their base chips value during the round give -mult equal to their rank

[lyric spoke]

what about "not triggered cards"

that would happen after the xmult tho, so it wouldn't have a big effect

[uneven meadow]

yeah thats the problem

[uneven meadow]

i thnik this is nice because it also has some counters

splash

for instance

but still consistently punishes playing a low amount of scoring cards

[lyric spoke]

"removes mult equal to double the sum of the rank of all non-triggered playing cards"

or maybe even triple

[uneven meadow]

lemme do the maths

imagine you had like a really average hand

K J 9 9 8 6 5 3

uhhh

the king is a steel card

u play the jack

as hc

thatd be 9+9+8+6+5+3 so 40 in total

-80 mult or -120 mult

[lyric spoke]

K is 10 mult

no?

[uneven meadow]

if its a steel card wouldnt it ocunt as triggered

[lyric spoke]

ah right

[uneven meadow]

it could actually do this before scoring but not with the double

so the king steel in this case would give -10

[lyric spoke]

you don't know what the non-triggered cards are before scoring (technically speaking yes, but yk)

also, take into account, mult could go negative

[uneven meadow]

it should just cap at 1

[lyric spoke]

how would that make sense based on the description?

[uneven meadow]

because itd do the -mult before scoring actually starts

OR after your hand is scored but not any other cards

[lyric spoke]

then no card would count as scoring at that point

that's why that effect would happen after scoring

[uneven meadow]

ahch its so hard to word

cards which are not set to score chips during scoring give -mult

how about that

[lyric spoke]

cards not belonging to played hand

[uneven meadow]

thats perfect

all cards not belonging to played hand (including ones held in hand) give -mult equal to their rank

[lyric spoke]

"remove mult" rather than "give -mult" would be clearer imo

[uneven meadow]

ya

so

all cards not belonging to played hand (including ones held in hand) remove mult equal to their rank (caps at 1)

do i . suggest this in like 15 hours

[lyric spoke]

yeah, let your haters cool off a bit

[uneven meadow]

yeah LOL

5 finisher suggestions today i think its a good call

[uneven meadow]

should i credit u for the help

it is a collaborative suggestion

[lyric spoke]

no need

[uneven meadow]

alr

thanks for making it actually playable though 😭

time to close the laptop . i gotta sleep