#Chess mod :3

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vivid basin
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uhhh something something en passant

rare dust
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holy hell!

vivid basin
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new move dropped

rare dust
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legendary joker

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and its

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magnus carlson

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or something

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absolute cinema

vivid basin
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gukesh now

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legendary joker named world champion and soul sprite just changes based on current champion

hot nest
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While we’re here about it…

vivid basin
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hello flame

hot nest
rare dust
hot nest
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G’morning

vivid basin
vivid basin
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he was beaten yday i think by him

rare dust
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unfortunate for magnus i suppose

hot nest
vivid basin
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peak

vivid basin
hot nest
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That would be cool, or a Friends of Jimbo skin for Chess lol

vivid basin
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ooooo

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@tacit hull made a thread here for mod

tacit hull
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oh, i missed this

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ploping down some chess move icons 👍

vivid basin
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PEAK

tacit hull
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for if we do choose to make chess move cards, that is

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i assumes as much

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assumed*

vernal rock
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The Pawn (Common)
+10 Chips per hand played
-5 Chips per discard
After you play a consecutive Ante without discarding, this card promotes into The Queen
(Currently +0 Chips: 0/3 Blinds)

-# entire Ante meaning small, big and then boss blind all in a row, will reset/stay at 0 if you skip or you obtain in the middle of the ante

En Passant (Common)
After you skip at least one Blind, sell this card to enter the shop
(Inactive)

-# 2-step move is like skipping blinds, entering shop is you still capturing the piece

vivid basin
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yeah

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I LOVE EN PASSANT ABILITY

rare dust
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wait that makes skipping blinds not awful

vivid basin
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right

rare dust
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what the hell peak fiction in my fan art thread

vivid basin
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move types

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i need a better name for it

vernal rock
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Fairy Chess

vivid basin
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Blunder: brings back your discarded cards

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Brilliant: retriggers every card in next hand

rare dust
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so the pieces are jokers and we're making move ratings the consumables?

vivid basin
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yes

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well im just throwing ideas, im open to feedback and also @tacit hull has to be okay with it

tacit hull
tacit hull
vernal rock
rare dust
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interesting

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if there were to be move rating jokers i think the background and border would be doing the heavy lifting

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and the actual substance from card to card would be pretty stagnant (circles yknow)

tacit hull
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I don't know anything about chess moves, just a casual player so do bare with me, I understand about half of the words you guys say at any given moment

rare dust
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i mean

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not jokers

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sory

hot nest
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What about that one move where you can easily lose in under four moves? What’s that called…?

rare dust
vernal rock
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Fool’s mate

vivid basin
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oh yes

hot nest
vivid basin
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fool's mate is 3 moves no?

tacit hull
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Pls explain whar

hot nest
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Also don’t worry; I haven’t played chess since Public School lol

rare dust
tacit hull
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Ah, yeah

vivid basin
tacit hull
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That's silly

vernal rock
hot nest
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Question

vivid basin
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yes

tacit hull
hot nest
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Chess, but all your army has gone over to the white side, leaving you with nothing but your royal shotgun and your wounded pride. Carried by your dark folly, you decide it's time to teach those white pieces to fear the Shotgun King.

Every turn, you may either move your king or shoot at enemy pieces, after what you'll need to move again to reloa…

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vivid basin
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i have not played that but that looks really cool

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theres also chess: fps on steam

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which is free and also really cool

tacit hull
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I haven't even heard of it drzoembarrassed

hot nest
vivid basin
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first we need to finish pieces and base game stuff

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then all this extra stuff lol

hot nest
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Yeah lol

vernal rock
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Yep yep

hot nest
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So this is happening then

vivid basin
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ideas for
bishop (uncommon)
knight (uncommon)
rook (rare)
queen (rare)
king (lengendary ?)

vivid basin
vernal rock
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Maybe promotion is a different joker all together

hot nest
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No idea tbh

vernal rock
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And queen is like cavendish where it’s through the other card that you get it

vivid basin
hot nest
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I was thinking Pawn could be promoted to a Queen, but maybe you’d have to play enough rounds for a Pawn to get from one side of the chess board to the other?

vernal rock
hot nest
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Something like that

vivid basin
vernal rock
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En passant, basically just a pawn shanking a different pawn, this time you would probably have to make different coloured pawns

vivid basin
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omg

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peak

tacit hull
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Oh, by the way, if you guys ever have concept art/personal interpretations of chess cards, do ping me!

tacit hull
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Functions

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More piece functiond

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No have functions

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aaAAH

vivid basin
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im thinking something straight related for bishop?

tacit hull
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Hm

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The rook too?

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Maybe something would be flush related as well

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Considering that still needs 5 cards, typically

vivid basin
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rook should synnergize with stone cards i feel

tacit hull
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Straight stone cards

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/j

rare dust
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funny knight idea methinks maybe. if first hand of round is a pair with one unscoring card, unscoring card gains a random edition

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as a reference to moving two tiles, then one tile . yknow. l

vivid basin
rare dust
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enhancement is too weak

vivid basin
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Because yk, knight

rare dust
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i like that

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because chariot

vivid basin
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Yeah

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Works on many levels

rare dust
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and thus we hand shake

vivid basin
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Good doing business

rare dust
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also offthetopofmydome what if the queen was xMult when placed to the right and +Mult when placed to the left

vivid basin
rare dust
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most versatile piece

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simple as

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could even be chips in the middle or something but that'd be more complicated

vivid basin
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I don’t see why someone would ever go for +mult unless they get it in the first ante or so

rare dust
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i think its a bit more likely than you give credit for

vivid basin
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What’s the advantage of using +mult over xmult?

rare dust
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if balanced well (a fairly high +mult and fairly low xmult), +mult would be great for early antes, probably transition to xmult midgame, but would transition back to +mult upon finding better scaling xmult or stay the same if using a levelled enough hand or better +mult scaling

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i was thinking +20-30 mult and ~2x mult but i'm no balancer. maybe a bit "weak" in traditional terms for a queen card but i think being multi faceted is a nice touch since it's meant to be super useful

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also a struggling run might just not find any good mult for a while and then maybe you keep queen as +mult to mid game miraculously balatrojoker

vivid basin
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I get the use case

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I’m just not fully sold on the idea of making queen a piece that helps with runs that are not too great or replacement for one type of a joker or another

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Regardless I’ll give it some more thought

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I appreciate the help as always on new ideas

rare dust
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it's an offthetopofmydome it doesn't really matter

vivid basin
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I’ll implement knight in a bit as soon as I get home (rn I’m about 7k feet in the air with terrible network coverage)

tacit hull
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@vivid basin ?

vivid basin
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makes sense but i do like ness' idea better

tacit hull
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Aaalrighty

vivid basin
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what'd ya think

tacit hull
vivid basin
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uh

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its 2 tiles and to the side

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are you counting the tile the horse is on?

rare dust
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yeah it moves two then one

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easy way to remember is how it jumps pawns at the start of the match

tacit hull
rare dust
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its not really part of the movement tho

vivid basin
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i almost want to make it 3oak just because pair to steel is way too easy

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and steel is arguably the most powerful enhancement

tacit hull
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My fault, though

tacit hull
vivid basin
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okay i have it implemented as 3oaK right now

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waiting for sprite (take your time)

tacit hull
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Alrighty

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It should take too long

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It shouldn't*

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WOW

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OKAY

vivid basin
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autocorrect doesnt want it to happen

tacit hull
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Rigged.

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I'm just watching deltarune chapter 3, leave me alone!!

vivid basin
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updated ability

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odds to nerf the pair requirement

tacit hull
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m

tacit hull
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enjoy your horse though 💀

vivid basin
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no rush, i have it set as the pawn sprite for the time being lol

tacit hull
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alrighty

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i still wonder if i should change the colors

vivid basin
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for background?

tacit hull
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yeah

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should probably specify better, oops

vivid basin
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ask in the main chat, i think you dont have to since we will have a bunch of other content that will have distinct art

tacit hull
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having each card have the exact same background feels yucky tho

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boring

vivid basin
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its cohesive though, since some of these will potentially work with others, theyre on the same board

tacit hull
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the stones have different colors, the sins have different colors, the legendaries have different colors... and yet, they're considered the same group, y'get me? some are color-coded to suits, some aren't

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though they are considered all one in the same, they got other colors but same backgrounds

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that feels more like balatro, no?

vivid basin
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sins being different colors are same group because of suits, legendaries are same colors since same rarity, its not the same imo

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besides we have 6 pieces, i dont think we have 6 distinct backgrounds

tacit hull
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its just 12 different colors, i dont feel like its so harmful

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not that im gonna make a NEW background, just recolor

vivid basin
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def not harmful, its just a personal preference

tacit hull
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i realise im being stubborn once again

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mm

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no more of that

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i get your angle on it, and having the same background wouldnt end my life obviously, just that cards of similar groups have similar backgrounds feels a bit like a bummer to me and i like seeing a small bit of variety, personally
plus, the common poker hand jokers being all one in the same kinda feels.. meh, to look at, because while---sure, they're in the same group, its just full of nothing, in my eyes.

tacit hull
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i think the cards only keep the same background when it's fully white?

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otherwise i never see 2 of the same background, i dont think anyway

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you are the coder afterall, you still get a say in this and i shouldn't muffle your words, but i just dont see the benefit in making it all the same, ya'know?

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enough of me talking, though

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i just think a lot about it

vivid basin
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personally, i just like consistency, hence why i want same background over different colours

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it just feels like it belongs with each other

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ykwim

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that being said, its a matter of personal preference

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so i dont want to force it on you, its your work

tacit hull
vivid basin
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if different backgrounds make you happier, im all for it

vivid basin
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oh

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i worded it poorly

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i meant

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same colors

tacit hull
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arson, i believe we both cannot read

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okay

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nevermind

vivid basin
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jet lag typing

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mb

tacit hull
vivid basin
tacit hull
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well, okay, heres the thing though, i value keeping the style of the things i draw similar to the original style im imitating

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including the laws

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and no 2 cards have the exact same background unless its white

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if it would be like that, it would fuck with me heavily to the point that i'd HAVE to change it at some poiny

vivid basin
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okay thats fair, i can live without consistent coloring

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what colors do you want to have for knight

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maybe the green one you had for pawn before because horse and grass?

tacit hull
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lmao maybe

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also that the green felt wouldn't clash weirdly cus.. it isn't there

vivid basin
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yup

tacit hull
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sorry that i yapped so much and argued by the way, im just very detail oriented and so when i can't keep stuff the same way as i want it to, i kinda just flip 💀

vivid basin
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no worries

tacit hull
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this goes the same with general irl shit too, like what order i do things, where i do what, how to do what

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shit like that

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im a little uhh,, silly

vivid basin
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thats very fair tbh

tacit hull
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so this type of discussion might happen a lot because of these things---accuracy and my personal norm

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well, anyway, this was semi-productive

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im gonna drink some water and then go to bed

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i need that, prolly

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nighty night

vivid basin
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goodnightt

tacit hull
vivid basin
vivid basin
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Rook abilities?!

vernal rock
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Smth about stone, definitely

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Since, tower

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And +Mult because… well you know

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Held Stone cards giving some amount of +Mult

The amount upgrading when playing stones?

vivid basin
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I LIKE IT

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i was thinking stone ability as well

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each stone card when scored gains +1 mult

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wait this is going to be a rare

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so maybe +5 mult

vernal rock
vivid basin
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OOOO

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HELD IN HAND ABILITY YES

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okay

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i like it

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i was going to make it just a simple scoring +mult thing

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since not many cards have that

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but i like this better i think

vernal rock
vivid basin
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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why bishop

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wait nvm

vernal rock
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Aleta you were gonna make the accent colour of bishop gold/yellow last time I checked?

vivid basin
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i just saw your small text

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im blind

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that makes sense

tacit hull
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Uh

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What was the full list again?

vernal rock
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Personal headcanon

Pawn: orange
Knight: green
Rook: blue-grey
Bishop: red (you said gold/yellow)
Queen: purple (the royal kind)
King: dark black (possibly even special marbled look like fancy boards)

vivid basin
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King is going to be a legendary joker

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so it will need a different style but the gradient thing will still work

vernal rock
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On a marbled chess board back

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I may look into it

vivid basin
vernal rock
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Giving it a [BIG SHOT]

vivid basin
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like designing the sprite?

vernal rock
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Of the back ye

vivid basin
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ooooo sick

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@tacit hull you got help

vernal rock
# vivid basin :3

Without the gradients, the light tile colour is the main body colour of the pieces yes?

tacit hull
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I already considered Clay as help ever since they drew the en passant sketch lmao

vivid basin
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real

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also W ability contributions

tacit hull
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Clay is basically the 3rd dev on this shit at this point

vivid basin
vernal rock
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First gotta rip apart and rebuild my fingers rq before I draw again

vernal rock
vivid basin
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yeah should be, although aleta would be the right person to comment on it

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im not involved in the art process

tacit hull
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Because like

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There's literally nothing under the squares

vivid basin
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i think theyre saying the light color minus gradient is the same as the piece color

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or rather theyre asking if thats the case^

tacit hull
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If I get rid of one it's just white

vernal rock
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Is knight’s background:

  • comprised of tan and green squares
  • with a green (upward) and tan (downward) gradient overtop
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With that same tan being the main colour on the light side of the knight piece?

tacit hull
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Oh, uh..

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Apologies for the low quality image, but in short I color dropped it, but the tan of the white piece and the tan of the board are slightly different PixelZo

vernal rock
tacit hull
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No, I made shit up

vivid basin
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i made it so the rook still gives 50 chips when scored

vivid basin
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like the stone cards

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i havent overwritten their basic ability

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so maybe i dont do the same with gold cards?

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theyll give 1 at the end of each hand when bishop is owned

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but theyll also give 3 at end of round normally

vernal rock
# vivid basin i havent overwritten their basic ability

Still +50 chips, but when in hand +5 mult

And when you play a hand with only stones, the amount scales like if shoot the moon scaled instead of static, not hiker scaling

Potentially having you use up stone cards that could have provided +mult at the time

vivid basin
vernal rock
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It’s what the original text meant too

vivid basin
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right my question is for bishop, i should let the gold cards their original ability as well correct?

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1 at end of each hand + 3 at end of round

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will this be OP

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or balanced for an uncommon

vernal rock
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Removed the “instead” clause, semantically it only adds the $1/hand without replacing the enhancement (like gold ticket giving an additional condition for payout not removing the effect)

vivid basin
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yup perfect

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implemented :3

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now only queen and king left

vivid basin
# vivid basin

the first "+5" will update for what the current mult value is

vernal rock
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Yee

vernal rock
vivid basin
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And he sacrificessss THE ROOOOK

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should I name all the pieces The [[Piece]]

vernal rock
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The Pawn, The Roaring Knight, The Rook, The Bishop, The Queen, The King

vivid basin
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Renaming

vernal rock
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In case it wasn’t obvious, En Passant cannot be active while in a blind, it should reset when you enter one actually

vivid basin
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oh yeah

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there will be a check for that

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i wonder how the game would interact otherwise

vernal rock
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Sketching The King (background and maybe the piece too)

vivid basin
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Castling (Rare): Sell this Joker to make every blind this ante match the score requirement of Current ante small blind

vernal rock
vivid basin
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need to clean up the description but thoughts?

vernal rock
vivid basin
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much better

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Skewer (Uncommon)
If first and last card of played hand have the same enhancement, 1 in 2 chance of all cards in between gaining the same enhancement or being destroyed

vernal rock
vivid basin
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wait no

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king is legendary lol

vernal rock
vivid basin
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we all know what a 1 in 4 chance in balatro actually means /hj

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but yeah i think thats more balanced

vernal rock
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I’m asking if that’s what the wording means

1 in 2 chance for [gains same enhancement/destruction]

vivid basin
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oh

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yeah

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original is

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1/2 either gain enhancement or destroyed

vernal rock
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1/2 to have something happen at all, and there are two options, or it’s guaranteed that the cards individually get destroyed or enhanced

vivid basin
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guaranteed

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either you get enhancement or it gets destroyed

vernal rock
vivid basin
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youre a legend

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i also have a very silly idea for a new mechanic in the game

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ELO rating

vernal rock
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ELO stake

vivid basin
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the higher your elo, the stronger your piece jokers will be, and the more you will find "move jokers"

vivid basin
vivid basin
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higher your elo and the lower your stake that you lose in, you lose more elo points

vivid basin
vernal rock
vivid basin
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wait this is actually peak

vernal rock
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🔥 🖋️

vivid basin
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i cant wait to show this in r/chess after we have a v1.0.0 ready for release

vernal rock
vivid basin
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ill add you to credits :3

vivid basin
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okayy

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i need help

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with idea stuff

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for ELO mechanic

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the player starts off with 1500 ELO

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then gets additional elo for % of collection unlocked

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2 points for every 1% unlocked

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so if someone installs mod with 100% of their collection discovered

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theyll start with 1700 ELO

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now for challenges

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some challenges are way more difficult than others

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should i make it a flat increase, like 50 points per challenge

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or do it batch-wise

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like you start with 20 points for your first challenge

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each additional challenge you complete gives you 10 more

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(since you unlock higher difficulty challenges later)

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the exact elo loss/gain numbers can be decided later

vivid basin
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so uh

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i created the whole ELO system

tacit hull
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Hsllo

vivid basin
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and it works :3

tacit hull
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Hallo*

vivid basin
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hello

tacit hull
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Oh neat!

vivid basin
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its somewhat complicated lol

tacit hull
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What does ELO mean though PixelZo

vivid basin
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but im very proud of it

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ELO is chess rating

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stronger you are, higher your rating

tacit hull
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Does it stand for anything, I mean?

tacit hull
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I'm curious

vivid basin
vivid basin
vernal rock
vivid basin
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LMAO

tacit hull
vivid basin
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Arpad Elo

tacit hull
vivid basin
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ELO Bands:
2600+: Super Grandmaster
2500–2599: Grandmasters (GM)
2400–2499: International Masters (IM)
2300–2399: FIDE Masters (FM)
2200–2299: Candidate Masters (CM)
2000–2199: Experts
1800–1999: Class A, category 1
1600–1799: Class B, category 2
1400–1599: Class C, category 3
1200–1399: Class D, category 4
1000–1199: Class E, category 5
Below 1000: Novices

Starting ELO:
The player starts with 1500 ELO

Collection Related ELO adjustments:
2 points per 1% completed

Joker Sticker Related ELO adjustments:
5 points per 1% complemented

Deck Stake Related ELO adjustments:
3 points per 1% completed

Challenges Related ELO adjustments:
50 points per challenge beat


Gameplay ELO - Point gain defined at Novice level (<=1000):

Winning stakes:

White Stake: 50
Red Stake: 75
Green Stake: 125
Black Stake: 150
Blue Stake: 200
Purple Stake 250
Orange Stake: 275
Gold Stake: 350

Losing stakes:

White Stake: -50
Red Stake: -45
Green Stake: -35
Black Stake: -30
Blue Stake: -20
Purple Stake -15
Orange Stake: -10
Gold Stake: -5
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so this is how the current system is set up

tacit hull
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Ou

vivid basin
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the final part is somewhat complicated

vivid basin
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as you see the gameplay ELO is based on Novice ELO band

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so i created a function that curves the score based on your elo rating

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so the higher your ELO

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the less you gain from a win

tacit hull
vivid basin
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but the more you lose from the same stake

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thoughts?

tacit hull
vivid basin
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now this will be used

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for joker pieces

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to make them stronger/weaker

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and the move consumable that we create

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giving "good" moves more to people with higher ELO

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and vice versa

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im really proud of this

tacit hull
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I can tell, and I get why

vivid basin
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hehe

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how goes the art

tacit hull
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Demotivated, haven't worked on rook yet

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Also that I've been busy with other art things

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Like I realised I was 2 days late on drawing an annual drawing redraw so I had to go do that instead lol

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The shit I've been doing instead of working on the chess mod

vivid basin
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fair fair

tacit hull
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I also have been losing my mind in the meantime, so that's fun

vivid basin
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what kind of table are you

tacit hull
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One of them, probably

vernal rock
# tacit hull

Unrotated, what are the dimensions of the squares/tiles?

tacit hull
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Wdym dimensions

vernal rock
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Each of the background squares (green & tan) is ? by ? pixels

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I do want to match it somewhat

tacit hull
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Ah

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I don't fucking know

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They were always rotated

vernal rock
vernal rock
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Shading’s not done but you get the gist

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Also gonna add some marble texture to the tiles because fancy

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Once I bit crush a texture into like 4 shades

tacit hull
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Oh neat :0

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Thank you for helping with designs, by the way PixelZohappy

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Deeply appreciate it!

vivid basin
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I love it

vernal rock
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Rough idea for The King, if it’s a legend it pretty much has to be forward facing imo

Still haven’t exactly nailed the proportions yet

tacit hull
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If you struggle with it, don't worry I can clean it up PixelZohappy

vernal rock
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Might make it a tad bigger

vivid basin
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OKAY

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i was finally able

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to create a visible, draggable thing that shows current ELO at all times

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looks like this

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you can move it around wherever

tacit hull
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Neat VD

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:D*

tacit hull