#Legendary xChips Joker?

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pure solar
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You want a legendary Xchips joker?

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Thats just Yorick, Triboulet and Other One

autumn cloak
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xChips is only useful on Plasma

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So uh

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No

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What did you mean by this

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As in like

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If you're gonna make one new xChips joker

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You'd need like a ton of other xChips jokers to like

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Make it viable

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Correct

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As I said

pure solar
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X2 mult is the same as X2 chips unless on plasma (cuz of its division)

Only way it won't be that way is if division or subtraction (÷mult or -mult) is added to the game

autumn cloak
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Yeah but a Legendary is meant to be like

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Versatile

pure solar
autumn cloak
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If you've gone all in on XMult then you're so insanely screwed and you wasted a goddamn The Soul 💔

pure solar
autumn cloak
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Well XMult is XXChips anyway if you think about it

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Since Mult is XChips

pure solar
autumn cloak
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There is no xChips because Mult IS xChips

pure solar
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Mult is seperate from chips, they get multipled together

autumn cloak
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🥶

pure solar
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There is 0 mathematical difference

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In any scenario

autumn cloak
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+Mult is xChips

pure solar
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2x Chips and 2x Mult give you the same result

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No matter what series of multiplication you do, any series of Xchips and Xmult give you the same end state

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And are interchangable

autumn cloak
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I feel like xChips is just kinda useless tho since its just a more pointless version of +Mult

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And while X10 chips sounds like a lot thats only +10 Mult

pure solar
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If a rare Joker is 2x chips, it is basically a photograph that can't be retriggered

autumn cloak
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So its more of a common than anything

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If even that

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I feel like everyone forgot that Mult literally multiplies your Chips

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It is xChips

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But just better in every way

pure solar
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so you are making a Joker that is all flare and no genuine gameplay fun

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Ok

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Whatever you say

autumn cloak
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10 Chips, 2 Mult
[2x Chips Joker]
20 Chips, 2 Mult
= 40 Chips

10 Chips, 2 Mult
[+2 Mult Joker]
10 Chips, 4 Mult
= 40 Chips

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Crazy

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I suppose but then again isnt that just xMult with extra steps

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In fairness, the game is always trying to force you into Mult and XMult because of how useless Chips become late game

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And Planet Cards do half the work that Chips do

solemn urchin
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This seems correct but it is actually a fallacy, although the optimization of multiplication is to have equal numbers, this only matters for addition as the gain it provides to either side is equivalent, multiplication, however is unaffected by the side multiplied by as multiplying by the larger number produces a proportionally larger gain that offsets the loss of optimization.

If you have 40 chips and 4 mult, then the difference between multiplying the chips by two and doing the same to mult is the following:
2 × 40 × 4 or 40 × 4 × 2

Since order is irrelevant in multiplication, both values are 320.

The place where ×chips shines is in on jokers that have card based triggers. This is because these are forced to trigger before other jokers and thus do not multiply the gain in mult from +mult jokers. The issue is that although present, the difference is too subtle to be worth having both ×chips and ×mult.

barren steeple
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discord user vs basic math

tight ore
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XChips as an idea is terrible so

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correct but wrong example
plasma already averages it out for you so you only want to focus on one angle instead of getting both chips and mult up
Early + mult is useless since chips push the average significantly better
late game you still pivot to x mult like any other deck

unborn marsh
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We already have xchips btw, it's called +mult

pure solar
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I tried sooo hard

tight ore
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I tried so haaaaard

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and got so faaaaaar

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in the eeeeeeend

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it doesnt even matteeeer

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i had too faaalll

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to lose it aaaaaallllll

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in the eeeend

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it doesnt even matteeeeeeeeeeeerr

tight ore
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you are not the only one to suggest x chips
the idea itself is just simply condensed upon

quaint tapir
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I swear someone suggests x chips every other day

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When will people understand how that works

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Im not talking about you specifically

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Please explain which

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You achieve better scores when your chips and mult are balanced

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And again, x chips and x mult in that case is the same