Rofflatro, the Roffle Mod (BETA) - looking for testers!

[autumn swan]

ive just always been to math brain and science pilled

[cloud glen]

alternative is In Case Of Fire, then the "Fire" part would be able to be stylised like the "In Case Of" part

then the Break Glass can be left at it's thinner proportions

[autumn swan]

well someone sugessed we change glass to joker

and its not a teriible idea

[cloud glen]

In Case Of Death - Break Joker

[autumn swan]

we could change it to "in case of greed"

[cloud glen]

looks good

[small wharf]

what about this

[small wharf]

eh?

[autumn swan]

@supple yew thoughts?

I'm biased I like mine better lol

[autumn swan]

@supple yew im going to start work on the pivot

[cloud glen]

oh it just occured to me that this is a 3d view of the In Case Of Emergency box lmao

i like the original idea too much lol the simplicity is quite charming. maybe a merriment of both? the In Case Of needs a little tweaking bc the N seems a bit thick here tho

[cloud glen]

idk how i feel about mysterious grimbo in the box. feels a little empty without him but i liked the transparency

i should be working lmao

[autumn swan]

He looks like he's going to touch me in ways I don't want to be 😭

[cloud glen]

he sees u when ure sleeping

[autumn swan]

Nuuuuu

I should be sleeping lol

[cloud glen]

oh no he's watching you !!

[autumn swan]

I don't want him watching

I wouldn't mind perkeo tho

[frail schooner]

way too much for a common

[supple yew]

i changed it to +1

also oh my god it's so hard to choose

i love both sprites

[autumn swan]

I have it working

[supple yew]

oh beautiful

[autumn swan]

For art I was thinking about basing it off cards like "the tribe”

[supple yew]

hmm

maybe with like a ♻️ type symbol

[supple yew]

yo fire

just needs the roffle text

[autumn swan]

like this?

[supple yew]

perfect

[autumn swan]

i made the pull request

it has the code

its not localised

idk if you wanted me to handle that

[supple yew]

no i can handle it dw

watching fotball rn so gimmie like an hour

[autumn swan]

K

[supple yew]

aight it's merged, i'll add the sprite and loc now

[supple yew]

boink

added a card in the middle cos it felt a lil empty

[autumn swan]

yk i felt that way to but im glad you figured it out lol

also idk if you want to change the active inactve badge

[supple yew]

i think it works for now at least

[autumn swan]

i can push somthing that makes it twitch like dna

[supple yew]

ah go ahread

[autumn swan]

its incredably buggy, i think ill hold off for now

[autumn swan]

i made a PR because the reset messages were throwing errors

i fixed them

[supple yew]

oopsies

my b

[autumn swan]

Dw Abt it, I'll work on Jake next

Hey do you want Jake to scale retroactively?

That's how it reads on the sheet

[supple yew]

yea

probably can just do a global var for it

i can work on some art in the meantime

[autumn swan]

Well I will probably need kidnap cola

Then add a trigger to it

[frail schooner]

3 high cards and it's yours forever

[supple yew]

until you change to something else

or t becomess your most played

[frail schooner]

yea

[autumn swan]

thats how ive been testing it lol

[autumn swan]

is done

i can make a pr if you want

i made le pr

[autumn swan]

idk if you wanted me to art this one

@supple yew

[supple yew]

i was gonna but i ended up being a bit busy

[autumn swan]

I'll leave it to you

I'll probably pick up another joker then

I should work on my mod but I really want to see this to completion

This mod is fun and I've been enjoying working on it

[faint mesa]

ok, finally picking this back up

[keen pilot]

After hearing him call vampire "Nancy" in recent vids I thought of making that a joker, perhaps it does something like "sucks [amount] of chips from each scored card and turns it into +/x [amount] mult"

Specifics aren't important as long as it says "The GOAT!" when it triggers

[supple yew]

i did have the idea to add nancy but didn't know what effect to do for it

that sounds fire tho

ima write it down

also gotta remember to merge jake when i get home in a few

[faint mesa]

ITS FIXED

ok so after much consultation on the whole file problem, i got a fix that checks only if the files are .lua

-- load all individual cards
local subdir = "cards"
local cards = NFS.getDirectoryItems(SMODS.current_mod.path .. subdir)
for _, filename in pairs(cards) do
    if string.sub(filename, string.len(filename) - 3) == '.lua' then
        assert(SMODS.load_file(subdir .. "/" .. filename))()
    end
end```

Finally, I can debug

[autumn swan]

What was the issue?

[faint mesa]

basically i couldnt play the mod cuz i was on mac

mac has a system file when checking a folder and the mod kept trying to load that file and crashing

so i had to add a check to make sure it ends in .lua

but im redoing it for a little bit better reason

[faint mesa]

It worked first try I'm so fucking good at this shit

[faint mesa]

alright its all set up

im updating the github repo to have the new file structure & joker assets

now, instead of loading all of the joker files along with the other things in the 'cards' folder, theres one file that holds a table with the jokers in order and then loads all of the files in the 'jokers' folder in the order of that table

now its cleaner, easier to comment out jokers for testing, and the order is changable

i set the order to the list in the google doc

and now the jokers asset looks like this. its a 5 by X grid to match up with the collection view. 0,0 and 0,1 are placeholders/testers, and the actual sprites are 1-5 coords now so its just easier for the pos command

[supple yew]

the type a joker sprite is quite possibly the peakest of peaks

[supple yew]

that's one page of joker art! just need the in-n-out code and it'll also be one page of jokers ready!

thanks to everyone that's been contributing to this silly mod, couldn't do it without y'all ❤️

[autumn swan]

looks good

is anyone working on in and out?

looks like ther is

ill start murphy then

[nocturne hare]

yup

[digital gate]

awesome to see this mod is coming along well.

[west frigate]

glad to see yet another youtuber-dedicated mod

since I'm developing one #1347804207796977665
except it only contains unique decks

the reason behind it is that SauKhongHu's viewers prefer playing multiplayer
and decks are the only consistent item for that (everyone gets the deck effect instantly rather than having to pray for a modded object to appear in a run)

tl;dr: I recommend adding modded decks to Rofflatro

[supple yew]

we do have one deck ready, would love to add more!

[autumn swan]

I have an idea: the misogyny deck, all your queens are replacing with kings

[supple yew]

LOL

perfect

[autumn swan]

I'm sorry if any I work is slower over the next few days, the laptop I was using, my school laptop, died so I go it replaced and I can't get lovely running on this one

Stupid windows defender

[supple yew]

oof

yeah that's alright you've done lotsa work as it is

[nocturne hare]

northernlion deck — gain sell value of all jokers every round, 4 joker slots

[faint mesa]

definitely done more work than i have on this mod thats for sure lmao

[autumn swan]

But I need to do mooorerreee

[supple yew]

infinite money

gonna need a nerf

i imagine gift card would make it just free

[weak sparrow]

feel like there's gotta be a "my deck is rock hard" reference

[supple yew]

new fellow enters the ring

[faint mesa]

hell yeah brether

[west frigate]

shouldn't it start at X1 Mult?

[autumn swan]

Rock hard deck: all cards are stone cards

[weak sparrow]

nah gotta be more creative than that

[faint mesa]

replaces a certain amount of random cards with stone cards?

that way its not a completely stoned deck

[weak sparrow]

Rock Hard Joker

• Earn $0 at end of round, increase by $1 every time a Stone Card scores
• Resets if hand does not contain a Stone Card

[faint mesa]

i like that more

what if it was like nancy but it like

deletes all played stone cards and gains 50 chips per stone card deleted

actually thats stupid but i just thought of a better name for it so im stealing that dont take my idea

[west frigate]

that's essentially giving Stone Cards a permanent tag to the joker at the cost of no retriggering capability

also contains deck fixing

[faint mesa]

yea

[west frigate]

like, it would be at least a Rare, if not better than Wee

[faint mesa]

i mean its basically just a worse vampire

[west frigate]

it's a lot better than you think

like I said

it contains deck fixing

by destroying Stone Cards in the process

[supple yew]

yea i fixed it

[faint mesa]

i mean if you can reliably turn cards into stone then sure its deck fixing

[west frigate]

Tower, Death, Stone in Standard Packs

it's not that hard

5 Stone Cards are all you need for it to be better than Stuntman

[faint mesa]

so then its as reliable for deck fixing as half a hanged man, death, and standard packs

really not that good compared to like trading card in terms of deck fixing

[west frigate]

should be a Rare for its absurd scaling capability

like, very big jumps per Stone Card, compared to Wee

[faint mesa]

i mean i could just lower the chip amount if it really is that broken, i just went with 50 cuz thats the value of stone cards

[faint mesa]

but wee can retrigger and it doesnt delete the twos after

so like with a good amount of twos youd be set for a wee run for life, but for this youd have to keep feeding it cards for it to work

[west frigate]

according to how SMODS handles destroying cards, played Stone Cards can also be retriggered before destruction

[faint mesa]

not even if you destroy it in the before context?

cuz like, nancy doesnt let enhancements proc cuz it sucks in the before context

so if you deleted it in the before context it shouldnt score them

[west frigate]

that's not how destroying works

[faint mesa]

:?

[west frigate]

when you attempt to delete a card in context.before, an "invisible card" in its place will be used for scoring instead

[faint mesa]

oh, strange

well, regardless

what i meant by "wee can retrigger" is that it scales per activation of a 2

this scales per destruction of a stone and destroys stones, so itll only scale once per stone card

(even then there isnt any reliable way to retrigger stones, so its different from like wee hack or smth)

[west frigate]

ah, you mean that

[faint mesa]

yeah

but if it really is OP then like, i can just cut it to 25

half a stone card makes sense too

but realistically as i see it, Mineral Muncher is an uncommon

[supple yew]

thought that "per scored stone" might be too powerful in the right context so i nerfed it a tiny bit

[west frigate]

it's a bit hard to use like that when you don't have that many stone cards

"per scored stone" works alright with 1$

but 1$ per "played hand that contains stone" is definitely underwhelming

it doesn't give money right away, it's money at end of round

I suggest buffing it to 2$

[supple yew]

fair

maybe per scored stone is fine as it is

[west frigate]

"per stone card in full hand" should be a better balancing attempt

because retriggers

💀

[faint mesa]

i just think that would be better

just make it get a dollar when a stone card procs, then theres a reason to like red seal a stone card

[autumn swan]

@supple yew murphy code is done

[nocturne hare]

@supple yew in and out done

[autumn swan]

Do you want me to look at Murphy art?

[supple yew]

yeh go ahead

it's 6am i should probably go back to bed

both PRs merged

[supple yew]

yall should pick a color for the credit badges so it's not all pink (unless you want pink :3)

[autumn swan]

56a786 perkeo green

[nocturne hare]

i have already done this 🫡

[autumn swan]

@supple yew so you can add it

[small wharf]

imo the hat colors are too dark. I'd lighten them up, cuz they kinda sink into the outline

[cloud glen]

idea: Big Wee / Look at my Wee / WEEEEEE
something to do with 2s idk i didnt think that far LMAO

[autumn swan]

Massive wee - each scored 2 gives +2 mult (gotta use your hands to grow your wee)

[nocturne hare]

x2 mult for every two 2s held in hand, obviously

[cloud glen]

idea: Beans & Eggs
bc Bean and Egg wre jokers that Roffle just goes "bean" or "egg" when they appear in the shop
every $5 adds +1 hand size

[west frigate]

that's… a bit hard to code

maybe change it to "each 2 in hand gives X1.414 Mult"

[autumn swan]

Shouldn't be, can't you just look at how shoot the moon works

[west frigate]

wait, it's X2 Mult for every two 2s held in hand, not each two 2s held in hand give X2 Mult

bruh

[autumn swan]

Make a counter that uses shoot the moon logic but doesnt actually return anything

[frail schooner]

check first two, set a bool to true, check second two check if bool is true if so give mult set bool to false

set bool to false on context.after

[west frigate]

yea, that could work

[faint mesa]

alright its time to cook

what jokers need to be done

[autumn swan]

Check the doc

I would like to work on crash out

[faint mesa]

oh murphy seems simple enough

i can take on that

[autumn swan]

It's already done

I did it

[faint mesa]

oh ok

grimbo seems like a quick endeavor

[autumn swan]

Yeah should be easy

[faint mesa]

how is the small flavor text done?

[austere heart]

{s:whatever} iirc

[supple yew]

you can check in the loc file

i think it's specifically {s:0.8,C:inactive,E:2}

[supple yew]

i like this but it would need a pretty big nerf

[autumn swan]

ive got some school stuff to do but when i have time ill problably take a crack at one of the more complex jokers

[vestal plover]

i just had an idea about a joker since chat so often asks him why he doesn't use swashbuckler-egg on gold stake runs, golden egg: at end of round double the sell value of all jokers and this joker destroys itself
probably would be a rare since it could be quite strong but idk

or maybe even something like, sell this joker to double sell value of adjacent jokers

[supple yew]

hmm sounds interesting

[autumn swan]

Golden egg, adds the sell value of all jokers to itself

1 in 10 chance to die at the end of the round

[nocturne hare]

chat is the bane of all streamers

Streamer Please Play [Mod]
Streamer Please Play More [Mediocre Synergy]
Streamer Please Play More [Gold Stake Deck]

can we scott the woz reference Why Don't You Play Them

[autumn swan]

STRREAAMERRR

[cloud glen]

is there a joker referencing Brian, the TTS that he's since disabled? or some form of "weirdo chatter that donated just to use TTS to say weirdo things"?
but I cant picture what the art nor the effects would be

[nocturne hare]

Raffle — -$1 every hand played, 1 in 5 chance for $10 at end of round

Reffing on a Bet — Gains +2 Chips if played hand is most played hand (Currently X)

Riff Practice — +5 Mult for every playing card with an Edition (Currently X)

ROFL — Create a Tarot Card if on hand left. [Insert randomised bad joke in the description here]

Ruffled Feathers — Gains 0.1x Mult per Uncommon Joker held for a round and sold. 0.3x for Rares, 1.0x for Legendaries (Currently X)

and with Vowel Exodia in all of the joker slots

Ryffindor — Creates a Negative Spectral card if hand contains a Wild Card

(legen dary, obviously. but can't get it from Soul)

[keen pilot]

That first one is an EV of $1 per round? Seems super underpowered

Even if it was 1 in 2 it would be the same EV as cloud 9 with the only scaling being oops

or basically just a gold joker

maybe something like... pay $1 per hand with a 1 in X chance to receive double the stored amount at end of round

not so much of a raffle since you always win eventually, but you are gambling a bit that it pays out before you're broke

Plus it incentivizes more hands not less. Though that effectively makes it cost $2 per hand so that's actually a bad deal. It might have to pay out 3-4x or work slightly different

I mean maybe it just gains $1 in value for free since hands have an innate cost

[keen pilot]

that would make it a way to negate the cost of playing extra hands with a slight downside of consistency

[autumn swan]

I have some time off of school so I'm hoping to get a few jokers done

Looking at the list we're close so being done adding the ones in the doc

Idk if you wanna add more

@supple yew is there anything specific you want me to do or do I just make code go brrrr

[supple yew]

ueh

just go brrrr ratatatat with it

theres no specific needs other than just keep chipping away at the list

[autumn swan]

I got permission to use the bu language mod Murphy art

We just need to credit splatter

[supple yew]

ohh beautiful

what's it like?

[autumn swan]

They're changing it out for a design that matches the vanilla showman

[autumn swan]

.

[supple yew]

dude lfg

he's gonna see it and be like wait hold on a second

edited it a lil so it fits right in with the other cards

this is huge

[austere heart]

worse than cloud 9(????)

[supple yew]

if you're nt playing towards 9s it's a relatively easy 6$ per round so i think it's fine

[supple yew]

hm

[supple yew]

anotha 1

[autumn swan]

Is this coded?

[supple yew]

yea they both are

although 7s needs testing

[autumn swan]

i can knock out o7 rq

[supple yew]

go for it

[autumn swan]

i didnt realize how jank the saved by mr bones thing is, i think im going to make a morecustom solution

[humble rover]

well met

[autumn swan]

nvm my soulution was worse

[autumn swan]

I'm making art for it rn

[autumn swan]

now to fill with o7s

[small wharf]

it might be too dark, you may want to increase the lightness

[autumn swan]

its the twitch color palletee

[small wharf]

yes, that's probably too dark for balatro

[nocturne hare]

this and primes

[nocturne hare]

i would've really liked Sevens Suck in this old run lmao

[autumn swan]

You didn't listen to enough avenged 7 fold

[nocturne hare]

i love shortcut and thanks for the primes

average 7532A straight

also type A joker is kinda eh

[humble rover]

there should be a "baron pivot" spectral card that destroys all your jokers and gives you a baron

[autumn swan]

Pog Baron Pog

[supple yew]

what if it's a joker

so like after playing x high cards in a row it does the thing and self destructs

[autumn swan]

Voucher

Barron is x more likely to appear

Or smth like that

[autumn swan]

@supple yew thoughts on this

[supple yew]

yea that looks awesome

[supple yew]

looking at it again i think thermo is right, might be a bit too dark

keep in mind that the jimbo outline color is the 'black' color that all cards use

so going darker than that can end up looking weird

[autumn swan]

I'll mess with it

[supple yew]

i would try just color picking jimbo and seeing how that looks for the background

and then adjust the brighter tones

[autumn swan]

That's probably what Ill end up doing

Idk what names to put for chat tho

I figured I'd put some of the people that work on this mod

Maybe a couple bu people or other balatro YouTubers

[supple yew]

yee

[supple yew]

did a small edit on the money shots sprite

[flat saffron]

you should just make the idol turn into the pog face he does everytime he sees it

[autumn swan]

balaro black looks pretty bad

i pruple shifted it

@supple yew

[supple yew]

hmm

as long as it's not a darker value it should be fine i think

we'll see how it feels in-game

[autumn swan]

or

idk why but to me balatro black looks so badd

[nocturne hare]

i like this one more

[autumn swan]

That's how I feel, it's just darker then vanilla so I'm waiting for Alex to look at it

[autumn swan]

@supple yew

[supple yew]

aight aight

looks good, maybe a bit dark but idm

i'm ready to merge when u send it over

i might adjust the colors a tiny bit if it feels too dark

[supple yew]

amazing

i see me in there

[autumn swan]

i had to get a little creative with the lettering

[supple yew]

i can see that lel

pixel art be like that

[autumn swan]

i wonder

can you figure out everyone on there

[supple yew]

i see you, perkeo and splatter

das it

and doc i think?¿

might also change the pinned message to be kali since that's who always types the pinned messages lul

[autumn swan]

• me
• perkeo
• you
• Three (three of a band)
• Splater
• C -Dubs (seadubbs)
• doc
• math is fun

[supple yew]

ohh shit i see it now

fire

[nocturne hare]

o7

[autumn swan]

lmao i have to fix my assets file cause i added it to a outdated one 😢

[supple yew]

oopsies

[autumn swan]

PR made

[supple yew]

schweet

[frail schooner]

oh this is just better mr bones

you should make it less than 50% that would be funny

[autumn swan]

Yeah it literally uses the "saved by Mr bones" mechanic

I want to figure how to make display a custom message

[frail schooner]

you can use localization files

[autumn swan]

That would change Mr bones too tho

I want to leave that alone

[frail schooner]

ye

in my mod i have "Saved by Joker Effect"

i should see how the effect is done in the files

[autumn swan]

@supple yew i made a pr to change the o7 form "saved by mr bones" to "close one chat"

[supple yew]

o sweet

[autumn swan]

I'm now working on voucher clear

[supple yew]

keep us updated o7

[autumn swan]

So I have it working but it's kinda jank

I'll fiddle around with it more later

[autumn swan]

@supple yew was going for a benus think but idk

[supple yew]

okay i see ya

you can try to break up the edges a bit

[autumn swan]

wdm

[supple yew]

like you see benus right

theres bits of it that are a bit broken

on the edges

like they're worn out

[autumn swan]

yeah

i think i make them look burnt

[supple yew]

yeah try something like burnt joker

[autumn swan]

kinda like tis?

[supple yew]

hmm sorta

just needs a bit more detail

[autumn swan]

I'm working on it, sorry if I'm taking so long. I'm just still learning how to do pixel art and also irl prevents me from just still at my PC all that time lol

[faint mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-fenneko-aggretsuko-computer-working-gif-18079158

good evening chat

what are we cooking this fine evening

[supple yew]

for some reason roff has a lot of trouble drawing diamonds, could be something to turn into a card?

or even a deck that is all just diamonds

[supple yew]

who wanna code this one

[humble rover]

theres a voucher in the pokermon mod that has a simlar effect but only for the energy packs i think

so idk if it would work differently for vanilla booster packs

[autumn swan]

I'll trade you voucher clear art so I can code this lol

[supple yew]

bet

[nocturne hare]

"diamonds give x2 mult, diamonds drawn to bottom of deck"

i could code that

[vestal hedge]

I've seen both boosters and jokers that do the same I think

Croupier from Ortalab

[vestal hedge]

Croupier from ortalab does the same thing, so you can reference that. It's not a bad thing to have duplicate effects, not at all, but that should save time

[nocturne hare]

thumbnail done, but needs art

i'll try

[supple yew]

merged

[supple yew]

also this is fire ima write it down

[nocturne hare]

on it boss™️

[supple yew]

@autumn swan u got the code ready right?

[autumn swan]

Damn you're quick

I have the code for magic trick

I'll work on the other one tonight

[supple yew]

u mean voucher clear right

[autumn swan]

Yeah

Lol

[supple yew]

send it over when you can :3

@autumn swan uhh i may have accidentally overwritten the o7 sprite with happy birthday 😭

i forgor my photoshop project didn't have it

nvm fixed

[autumn swan]

Lol it's fine I have it in my computer even if you did

[supple yew]

nat negative from a judgement it looks awesome

[autumn swan]

ship it

[autumn swan]

done

[supple yew]

wonderful

just merged voucher clear

[autumn swan]

ill pr birthday now

cant belive the mod has so much done

[supple yew]

i love seeing the progress

this is coming along so great thank you all sm for the help hhhhh

can't wait to just slide into roffle's dms like"sir, it's time"

[autumn swan]

lmao

main channel scares me

thats going to be fun lol

[autumn swan]

hey is anyone working on thumbnail?

ik the art is done

well

maybe not

[supple yew]

the code is done but not the art

[autumn swan]

ah

also i think its funny that i just have a fork of the mod just for making pull requests even if i should have just made a branch

[supple yew]

if it works it works lmao

[autumn swan]

ill start crashout

[violet citrus]

Fun idea of a joker would be

Gain 0.5 or 0.25 for each A7X member the band had/has
Current 5.5x

You could change the numbers the band had 11 members by now

[autumn swan]

hey i submitted a pr fixing somthing on happy birthday

[autumn swan]

i like the current one better

[violet citrus]

Oh yeah thats probably cooler

[autumn swan]

@supple yew looks like vouch clear causes crashing

[humble rover]

do they have to both be scoring? if so i think maybe it should gain 5 mult or maybe more, bc the easiest way to have a scoring ace and 7 would probably be two pair, but then at +4 its basically just pants but harder to scale

[autumn swan]

looks like it is scoring

idk balence is somthing alex would look at

[humble rover]

yea imo it should probably scale faster than pants if its scoring

yee

[autumn swan]

Fixed magic trick, I'll push the fix tommorow

[supple yew]

i mean, when i did a test run it was pretty strong for a flat mult scaler

just gotta play towards it is all

used to be +7 but that felt just broken

for reference pants gains +2 per hand so this actually scales twice as fast for the price of being harder to hit

rn im thinking maybe there's too many scaling jokers and not enough jokers triggering on scored cards

only ones i can think of for the second kind rn are draw the diamonds, 4k and hearthstone

maybe it's worth looking into changing some of the jokers in the current pool

another thing is maybe well met could use a buff

i was considering removing the only 1 card limit and making it x1.5

[supple yew]

forgot to say i buffed black shirt and nerfed in n out

scaling was off on both of them

like way off

in n out was keeping up with a wee joker for a good while but black shirt struggled to do anything compared to a constellation

[supple yew]

brainstorming a few more ideas so we have a backlog to fall back onto if we can't gt something working/for hypothetical future updates

i want the initial release to have a solid roster of 30 balanced & polished jokers but there's always room to expand

[autumn swan]

I'm assuming they are going to be the original 30

[nocturne hare]

spec oops should be ((((((1 in 2) in 2) in 2) in 2) in 2) in 2) to gain 10 dollars at end of round

so the doubling would cancel it out to be "1 in 1 chance"

[supple yew]

LOL

[supple yew]

depends on if we can get them all working, if we have issues with say main channel we can sneak in one of the easier ones instead

[nocturne hare]

i mean... it's 1/64 for 10 dollars. it would be incredible gambling

[supple yew]

i wish there was a less scuffed way of writing it though lmao

[nocturne hare]

maybe just chuck one off for 1/32

[supple yew]

i do love the idea

[nocturne hare]

you know how like

there's background colours for xMult

[supple yew]

yea

works with any color

[nocturne hare]

we can like alternate between background and no background

so no need for the brackets

it's still scuffed but it is really funny

[supple yew]

maybe that could work

yeah it's hilarious

[nocturne hare]

also for diamonds i just realised i might need a lovely patch

which i'll attempt to do but that's a bit out of my element

[supple yew]

hoo boy patches do be scary

[nocturne hare]

maybe hooks

[nocturne hare]

well it almost works without any patches

uh

it does create the blanks

slightly cursed

i'll fix it later

[supple yew]

uoh

[humble rover]

oh i thought pants was +4 for some reason

[autumn swan]

@supple yew i pr the magic trick fix

[supple yew]

schweet

[autumn swan]

I need to fix cola too

Rn it will reset when balatro close

[supple yew]

gotta save the value in the current round globals i guess

those get saved when you quit out

[autumn swan]

that was my plan

[autumn swan]

pr made

[supple yew]

got it

[nocturne hare]

wow!

[supple yew]

WOW

turtle bean bug ahh

[nocturne hare]

i'm basically

crashing out in modding dev

it

[supple yew]

ouf

[nocturne hare]

it's basically almost working but it's being stupid

and drawing phantoms

i didn't even know you could do that

[supple yew]

ghost cards usually happen when you destroy a card improperly, but like you're not destroying any cards from what i can tell

this is so weird

maybe the blanks are like the places where the diamonds used to be and the game just places a blank in their place when they move to the back

that's my best guess

[nocturne hare]

nope

[supple yew]

then i'm lost too

lmfao

[nocturne hare]

okay i have no clue how to do this lmao

maybe we can this one for later

[supple yew]

yea it's fine

we have plenty to pick from for the starting roster

[nocturne hare]

so close yet so far

i'll do the spec oops

[supple yew]

okidoke

[humble rover]

when i hear spec oops i imagine a spectral card version of oops, like it permanently increases all probabilities by 1 and gives you -1 hand size lol

[nocturne hare]

code done (ignore art)

[weak sparrow]

"$10 dollars" is redundant
Other than that, very funny and creative joker

[supple yew]

i don't think 10$ is redundant

you need to know how much money the joker is gonna give you before you buy it

[autumn swan]

I don't even know what this means lol

[supple yew]

1 in 16 chance to get 10$ at end of round but getting an oops makes it guaranteed

[autumn swan]

How is that 1 in 16 lol

[supple yew]

((((1 in 2) in 2) in 2) in 2) in 2)

its like an exponential thing

[autumn swan]

I might need to look at the code for this lol

Idk I think the description is super confusing

Wait

It's because he has the oops

So it's 1/2⁴

[supple yew]

yeah

[nocturne hare]

and with oops it's (2(2(2(2 in 2) in 2) in 2) in 2) in 2) which just simplifies to 16 in 2 in 2 in 2 in 2 or just 1 in 1

great stuff

[autumn swan]

@supple yew crashout done

[supple yew]

send that ish over

(god my sleep schedule is fucked)

[autumn swan]

Pr opened, its not localized or anything

And it needs art

I was thinking of making the art look like a BSOD

[autumn swan]

Oh I discovered more crashes with magic trick

So I'll have to fix that lol

Because it crashes with voucher tags

Also the way it works now it makes it so when you kill a voucher the next level one can appear

[supple yew]

oops

yea i also noticed that

[autumn swan]

Ill try to fix the crashes but idk about the upgrade vouchers

I think I know how to fix it but if you don't want me too I won't

[supple yew]

you can give it a shot, i imagine it would be nice if the second tier of the deleted voucher also gets nuked

[autumn swan]

It could be use for things like blank

But i think it makes more sense that it kills both

[supple yew]

i mean might as well buy it at that point

it does nothing that hurts your run other than cost 10 bucks

[autumn swan]

Yeah

If I change it so that it works with voucher tags I'll have to change the wording of the joker

Because right now it says just the shop voucher

Not voucher in the shop

[supple yew]

true

maybe something like voucher(s) in the shop

since it's kind of an edge case

[autumn swan]

Question is which voucher does it destroy

Left most?

[supple yew]

could just do all of em

if that's not too hard

[autumn swan]

No

It'll probably be a for loop

Similar to crash out

[supple yew]

yea for each voucher in the cardarea or smn

i'm doing the crashout loc rq

[supple yew]

is this the final sprite or are u working on it

[autumn swan]

Still working

I'm trying to get a QR that links to Roffels twitch on it

[supple yew]

wait that's kinda fire LOL

[autumn swan]

Pain in my ass LMAO

[supple yew]

i wanted to try maybe a subtle gradfient for the blue background

[autumn swan]

I got you

I'll just steal from icecream

[supple yew]

genius

just need the sprite and we gucci

speaking of sprites we still need one for the thumbnail

@nocturne hare i can't remember if you said you were gonna have a crack at it?

if not i can try to do it

i'm gonna knock out never skip rq in the meantime

should be easy enough

[supple yew]

done!

[autumn swan]

I love drawing qrs by hand just to draw the wrong one

[frail schooner]

thia seems incredibly strong, maybe make that and into an or?

[supple yew]

wdym

i mean it does seem quite powerful

just not sure what the second half means

[autumn swan]

Instead of tag and tag it's tag or tag

[frail schooner]

yeas

[autumn swan]

It's 25 dollars and a voucher iirc

But the 25 kicks in after a boss blind and the voucher tag is terrible early game

Plus you're sacrificing a joker slot until you hit another shop

So its okay early and late game but it rewards good gameplay because of you set it up right it's a voucher and 15 dollars

But that's only if you set it up right

Otherwise it is essentially an or

[frail schooner]

just keep it to the boss blind, sell it, and get the voucher??

[autumn swan]

basically

but then youre missing a joker for the boss

[frail schooner]

not really enough of a downside imo

[autumn swan]

@supple yew

[supple yew]

i mean skipping as it is is already quite a downside since you miss out on shops and interest

[frail schooner]

maybe you could have the tag you get change based on the blind

if you skip the big blind you get investment, if you skip the small blind you get voucher

[supple yew]

maybe

would have to figure out a way to word it concisely

[autumn swan]

qr works btw

[supple yew]

im not on my computer but if you make a pr with the updated atlases i can just merge it

[autumn swan]

let me add the gradient youwanted and ican do that

[autumn swan]

pr made

[supple yew]

okidoke

[autumn swan]

the thumbail art?

[supple yew]

oo okay

that looks awesome

mime cavendish and constellation eh

[autumn swan]

pretty much this

but wrong bg

[supple yew]

lol fair

[autumn swan]

this bg

[supple yew]

actually maybe the background of the thumbnail itself could be different from the background of the whole card

for contrast

[autumn swan]

i could try twitch card black

[supple yew]

could also use soulpos to make it pop that could be fun

[autumn swan]

thought about it

[autumn swan]

what kind of main bg we thinkin?

[autumn swan]

somthing like this?

[autumn swan]

well well well

[nocturne hare]

no way

[vernal nova]

Dint know roffle liked peak music

[nocturne hare]

spec oops pulled

[molten oxide]

idk if its been mentioned here but i really think there should be an enchancement that that gives money when discarded instead of played or held in hand

because gold cards synergize with blue seal and red seal well but purple seals dont get any syndergy besides jokers that encourage discarding and theres nothing like that in any of the mods ive checked out

like a copper card or something that gives money equal to the number of cards discarded with it

[autumn swan]

Anything on this mod must relate to roffle, if you can think of anything to link this to like a reference or something we'd be happy to look into it

[molten oxide]

the search begins 07

[warped ridge]

they mean having the word "dollar" even though you have the $ sign already. It'd be like saying '16" in' or '12cm centimeters'

[nocturne hare]

yeah i already changed it

[supple yew]

greed card

[supple yew]

awesome

[nocturne hare]

"this joker gives x2 mult if obs is running"

[autumn swan]

Did you want the purple bag or nah

[supple yew]

oh no yeah it looks nice

[autumn swan]

PR made

i just made anohter pr that fixes 7s suck not triggering dvd

@supple yew

[supple yew]

oh shit i totally missed that one

thanx

[autumn swan]

25 jimbos

[autumn swan]

im giving kalis ban hammer a try

[supple yew]

awesomesauce

[autumn swan]

is done

[supple yew]

holy peak

that was quick

[autumn swan]

I just stole dagger code :p

[supple yew]

gonna give spec oops some art i think

[autumn swan]

Noice

[autumn swan]

When I get the chance I'll do art for kalis

[autumn swan]

hey where are you putting that btw

on the sheet

[supple yew]

bottom left

jokerception

[autumn swan]

love it

[autumn swan]

idk why you letme do art lol @supple yew

[supple yew]

LMAO

don't say that

[supple yew]

i like it just needs mo detail

[autumn swan]

what kind?

[supple yew]

idk how to explain

i was thinking maybe an outline and giving the swirly thing around the hammer a bit more thickness and some particle thingies

[autumn swan]

oh eah i was figuring that out

im going for a simplifed dagger look

[supple yew]

i getcha

keep cooking

[nocturne hare]

the bottom right tiny J missing one pixel is bothering me so muchjj

[supple yew]

ooo

[autumn swan]

is there anything i should add/change

[supple yew]

the hammer itself is fine, the background could use like a spotlight type thing

like the hammer has an aura or smn

[autumn swan]

purple?

purple.

[supple yew]

ourple

[autumn swan]

ripple

[autumn swan]

@supple yew pr made

3 more jokers to go

[supple yew]

beautiful

[autumn swan]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

how it feels looking at the design doc deciding wat to make

[autumn swan]

im doing what would doc do

[supple yew]

okidoki

[autumn swan]

so its done

but i think its a little weak for a rare

[supple yew]

can always up the scaling on it

[supple yew]

we should probs start working on the challenges since we've almost filled out the second page of jokers

[nocturne hare]

this is my favourite part

[supple yew]

sweet

im gonna do a similar system to what maxx did for jokers so we can keep it all modular and stuff

[vestal hedge]

I guess challenges are a feature in hit indie game Balatro(2024)... I wouldn't know

[supple yew]

balatro has challenges?!

[nocturne hare]

i already have that

i can port

[supple yew]

oh perf

less work for me

ima re-read the smods challenge docs to refresh my memory in the meantime

[vestal hedge]

Is this mod up on github?

[supple yew]

yea check op

actually https://github.com/MamiKeRiko/Rofflatro

[vestal hedge]

Maybe you or I could summon egg to pin it, either from here or the top post

That's how he gains value after all

[supple yew]

[vestal hedge]

And thank you :3

[supple yew]

npnp

[nocturne hare]

alright it should be set up

i'll try to make one challenge per joker

just like my own mods lmao

loc text gaming

this is ridiculous by the way

can we get a nerf

[vestal hedge]

Tbh in normal play not much more powerful than using hologram well

And that's uncommon

[nocturne hare]

it's actively easier

using hologram well is not free

this one is just "buy stuff in the shop"

[vestal hedge]

I wouldn't want to use it if it was only .1

Well... I guess it might be fine

But would feel like an uncommon

Maybe .15?

[nocturne hare]

it's way too easy to increase for a rare

comparatively speaking it outscales half of the rare cards in like 3 shops

[vestal hedge]

I mean... idk man there's not really a model for a good rare xmult scaling joker in vamillia

All the good ones are uncommons

Like Lucky Cat and Holo

[nocturne hare]

christ

but like

it's really fast i don't think this is on par with the rares

there's like 0 downside

[vestal hedge]

Idk I guess I'm just used to big numbers on Lucky Cat, Hologram, and Throwbsck

[nocturne hare]

throwback is awful and lucky cat is really only good for long runs with dna

hologram is hologram

[vestal hedge]

To reach their own. I love skipping

[nocturne hare]

i only skip if it's worth it, which is almost never

but the investment tag is very enticing

[vestal hedge]

I think it's a pksysyle thing which makes it unremarkable to me. I'm always broke so couldn't even nessacarily afford to optimize this one

[nocturne hare]

i'm always rolling in money

most of my losses is me not buying enough

how i play basically makes crashout the best xmult joker by a mile

should at most be x0.2

nonetheless don't forget about 8 ball seance and sixth sense

this + astronomer / cartomancer

fastest xmult in the west

[gentle basin]

maybe make it work like madness

it always gains .25 but it destroys one or all consumables when blind selected

[autumn swan]

Uhhhhh

No

Iirc it only gains xmult when consumables are destroyed

[gentle basin]

key word MAKE

[autumn swan]

Ah

Doesn't work with the wording of the joker

Says per consumable

[gentle basin]

yes im aware im saying for a rework of the joker

[autumn swan]

I think it's fine the way it is

[gentle basin]

people were talking about a nerf to it so i was just throwing my idea in there

[autumn swan]

Understandable

Maybe you tie the sell value to the mult gained

We'll probably pass a bunch of balenced changes when we do all the jokers we want

Because rn what would doc do is kinda weak

Plus I need to fix voucher clear

[supple yew]

okay so there was a power outage in my whole country and the power just came back but my internet is still kind of unstable

[supple yew]

this is a challenge of all time

[autumn swan]

Lmao

So many bans

[nocturne hare]

we need a blind that debuffs photochad baron mime jist to really mess with roffle

[autumn swan]

call it "The sleeper" or smth

[terse knot]

Maybe Ask and shall receive
Referring to

“Come on. Give me the king of diamonds” “Not that one!”

[gentle basin]

please add a reference to this amazing moment
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxngbWDqwb3ZRCgobpa2ldHVmVR6xsqQWd?si=g7wymQ5V5ek-nZtQ

[weak sparrow]

Standardized (Uncommon)

• Standard Packs always contain a copy of the most common card in your deck (Default Queen of Clubs if deck contains no duplicates)

[gentle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[weak sparrow]

"Copy" also includes any modifications too

[gentle basin]

maybe if it's a voucher lvl1 could be random card and lvl 2 could be most common

[weak sparrow]

Are there any more roffle standard pack shenanigans to go off of for a potential voucher set

[autumn swan]

We could tie this to the favorite sticker mechanic

Standard packs always contain a craf with the favorite sticker

[gentle basin]

craf

[autumn swan]

Cut me a break I'm typing on my phone lol

[gentle basin]

also if there are no favorite cards default to queen of clubs obv

[autumn swan]

By the time you hit a shop there should be a favorite card

Because you have to play a hand to win in normal gameplay

Also this should be a voucher

[autumn swan]

I'm assuming that there's going to be testing and balancing once we decide we have enough jokers

We're close to having a decent amount

[supple yew]

i'd say 30 is a nice round number

[supple yew]

looking at this again yeah it needs a nerf

being unable to bring consumables into a blind isn't as huge of a downside as i imagined

esp if you have purples

also imagine crashout + perkeo with copies

actual insanity

[supple yew]

also i didn't mention it but i do love the idea of having this as a voucher

and having it tie into the favorite sticker mechanic like food said cos rn it's just used for well met

so it's good to have it do more than just an interaction with 1 joker

we could def do more stuff with it

[autumn swan]

Boss blind: playing a favorite card sets your money to 0

Or something like that

[supple yew]

ooo okay i like that

[autumn swan]

@supple yew did you want me to rework doc or just pr it as is

[supple yew]

yea just pr it for now, we can mess around with the scaling

[autumn swan]

let me localise it then i can pr

[blazing ridge]

Can I get a forward to the top of this page so I can download it for some reason mobile likes taking me all the way down

[supple yew]

#1357325052542062653 message here

[autumn swan]

yeah mobile discord hate threds lol

[blazing ridge]

Shanks

[autumn swan]

Le epic and based pr made

do you want to handle the art?

[supple yew]

yea i can whip smth up

not today tho it's late

[autumn swan]

k

[autumn swan]

lemme hit up grimbo rq

[supple yew]

schweet

[autumn swan]

shouldnt take long

[supple yew]

yea it should be super easy

just green joker with money

[autumn swan]

this is how i read what was on the doc

[supple yew]

p much

[autumn swan]

grimbo?

[autumn swan]

Also I think I have a way to do main channel

• have it select a joker
• check the card.ability.extra value

• if it exists check if it's a table or an int
• if an int act on it accordingly
• if a table check for specific keys in that table then act on those according

[gentle basin]

the true grimbo

[autumn swan]

@supple yew do you want me to to attempt main channel

[supple yew]

aite

[autumn swan]

@supple yew grimbo pr ping

[supple yew]

oah

holy W

wait i just realised

gotta replace the joker text with roffle

i can take care of that

[supple yew]

is he lookin sexy or what? :3

[autumn swan]

I love it

But you gotta use the doc Normal color palette

[supple yew]

normal palette? is that not his usual color scheme

also the eyes are too small hold on

[autumn swan]

thres a version of him they use in the bu language mod sos that he appears in his normal colors when negative

[supple yew]

o

idk i like his negative form

[autumn swan]

it begins

[supple yew]

oh lord

good luck

[autumn swan]

i just wanted you to know thats what they do in his cimmunity, but its ur mod and art lol

[supple yew]

might be funny if the negative version of this one looks like the editionless version in the balU mod

idk how the negative shader works tho so it might not be like that

like im pretty sure it doesn't just invert all the colors, maybe it uses a lut or smn

also this is our mod, we love communism in this household

[autumn swan]

lmao

trans people and communism

name a more iconic duo

[supple yew]

[autumn swan]

being serious tho, you have final say on waht happens on this mod

or at least thats how ive been operating

[supple yew]

i guess yeah

i do really appreciate everyone's work and love hearing diff inputs and ideas

[supple yew]

he's judging you

just 1 joker left... my god we're doing it

also is it just me or do the colors look a bit burnt now

no idea what's up with that

[autumn swan]

I'll get working on that when I can, in the meantime do you want to find some people to test it and feedback ot

[supple yew]

oh that would be great

that's part of the reason why i opened this thread

[autumn swan]

Once I do main channel I'll fix voucher clear

[weak sparrow]

feels a bit weak with how slow it scales

would be better at X0.2 or X0.25

[supple yew]

yea i think we already mentioned it being a bit weak

.2 sounds good

[nocturne hare]

will go speeeeed on challenges later

[deft flint]

Peak

[autumn swan]

Omg

Main Channel art

@supple yew

Please

[wet stone]

hey just wanted to let you know of a bug with the voucher remover joker, when you sell it after you buy the voucher it crashes the game because it's trying to remove a null item 🙂

[autumn swan]

I'm aware of the issue I just haven't been able to fix it yet

Let me take care of that before I start on main channel actually

Because ot shouldnt take long

[autumn swan]

@supple yew i made a pr with what i think is the fix for voucher clear. it also now kills all vouchers in the shop. i also found a way to make the in shop detection less jank

Well it looks like a lot of the jokers are hard coded

Things like dagger

So I'll probably have to do a lot of kidnapping

This game is so jank

For now I'll add support for the non hard coded jokers before I begin to get the specifics done

[autumn swan]

@shadow ginkgo mods in here if you want to try it

[shadow ginkgo]

splendid

[robust pollen]

(i was typing this in the balatro uni discord but i'll move it here lol)

i see the latest commit is a "what would doc do" buff, but honestly for a rare joker I would probably put it even higher, as 0.2x per round is still pretty bad when pitted next to other rares, and some uncommons... even 0.4-0.5x a round would still be balanced imo
(i also think the favorite sticker being added just for one joker is... interesting? but maybe that's for future development)

[autumn swan]

Yeah what would doc do is kinda hard to get right and is still being tweaked, the favorite thing will be added to other things eventually, right now there's a concept for a blind and a voucher

[autumn swan]

Oh you might want to go to my fork and use it because it has the fix for one of the jokers that crashed the game

The pr just hasn't been merged yet

[supple yew]

i just woke up lul

[nocturne hare]

wait did the challenge stuff not get pulled to main

.

[supple yew]

yea thats fair, also we've been thinking of more uses for the favorite sticker

[nocturne hare]

wom p

[supple yew]

uoh

is it in a diff branch

[nocturne hare]

yeah

commits behind, commits ahead

[supple yew]

oopsies

i didnt see

shouldnt be too much of a problem

[supple yew]

aight merged

[supple yew]

one of my favorite things about this mod is that pants + black shirt makes for a very strong full house build

[nocturne hare]

and with Cat Ears and Old Slippers i can become the worst fashion statement in the west

[supple yew]

LMFAO

[nocturne hare]

imagine. cat ears joker solely for roffle viewers to beg for cat ears

♾️ power

[supple yew]

what should it do

dude what if it was literally just like

+1 joker slot

just there for the vibes

[nocturne hare]

cat ears — 100% guaranteed negative

[supple yew]

lmfao

[nocturne hare]

i mean technically abstract joker

[supple yew]

the one synergy

[nocturne hare]

maybe "gains xmult if at least two cards don't share a rank, suit, enhancement, seal, or edition"

and draw the cat ears as two Completely different sets of cat eats stiched together

[supple yew]

oo wait that might be cool

[nocturne hare]

this also fits full house

this would make a really funny challenge

[supple yew]

i also lowkey like the filler joker idea, it can actually be useful for stuff like abstract, temperance, verdant leaf or even the banhammer

kind of like a useless negative but without it having to be negative

[supple yew]

im thinking grimbo could give a dollar per scored card rather than per hand

since it takes money away per discarded card

[autumn swan]

It takes away money per discard no?

It should at least

[supple yew]

when i tried it it took a dollar away per card

[autumn swan]

Huh

Odd

Wait I just realized it can put you in debt

[nocturne hare]

you know negative moral support is probably as strong as blueprint

only if ecto...

[nocturne hare]

Where are my Sevens? • Start with 40 Aces and 12 Sevens, plus Eternal Avenged Sevenfold. Blacklisted hands: High Card, Pair, 3oak, 4oak, 5oak, Flush 5

Trigger Happy • Create Kali's Ban Hammer when blind selected. No reward or interest.

[autumn swan]

i just realized how wierd balatro is with storing joker values

[autumn swan]

so i have the basic scaling working

rn it multiplies all nu,bers in a jokers extra table if it exists

next step is to get a way to filter out things like odds

[supple yew]

wait @autumn swan are you using the func in globals to multiply stuff

if not you should peep it cos it'll make your life a billion times easier

[nocturne hare]

pushed'

needs to be pulled

[autumn swan]

Which one is it?

[supple yew]

done :3

[supple yew]

this one

[autumn swan]

Oh this will save me so much time lol

[supple yew]

shouldve mentioned it earlier lul

[autumn swan]

I just need to figure out exactly what I need to filter out with it

[autumn swan]

im assuming unkeywords is whatever keywords i want to filter out a strings

So I used the thing

And the game crashed with no crash screen

The game just closed

Sigh

[supple yew]

oop

show code

if the games closing with no crash screen it might be having a stack overflow or smn