Resurgence (WIP) - Primordial Arts

[night prism]

joker added

[dusty river]

YAYYY :3

[night prism]

i'm going to sleep now

gn

[dusty river]

gn, gulag!

[dusty river]

#1224362333208444989 message
gn everyone, stayed up way to late lol, also remind me to look at this when i wake, looks useful lol

[static finch]

aye

oh my god

GaySex

[static finch]

someone referenced ben before meeee 3:

[night prism]

hey, i know that joker to the right

[static finch]

yes yes

mr ego

i know it's yours

(i lost the run btw)

[dusty river]

I slept midday yesterday and can't sleep lol :<
should've been in bed soooo long ago, lol

I just realized, I never sent this in, but I made better concept art for bartender lol

somewhat anyway

nvm, just looked at it, it's garbage lmao

still better than before lol, but this time I tried, so it's embarrassing instead of funny, lmao

[static finch]

oh cmon

how bad could it be

[dusty river]

you know what, it's not art art, it's just concepts lol

I should be fine if it's a lil garbage

[static finch]

yeah

[dusty river]

main problems I have atm, hands look like horrible, the bartender looks like a teenager for some reason and I have no clue why, and the jacket has a really thick border for some reason

ok, now that we know what we're getting into

lil timmy running the bar lmao

[night prism]

the reason it looks like a teen is the beard

and the haircut doesn't help

[dusty river]

lmaoo 😭 I wanted him to look, like, grizzled, idk lmao
failed miserably lol

[night prism]

i'll say, the hands are not an issue, since in pixel art they will just look like a blob anyway

the pose is super weird though

[dusty river]

idk how to make people lol, you may have noticed

only whatever the fuck is lmao

[night prism]

use a reference for the pose

i'm terrible at making people too

but references are a godsend

[dusty river]

mhh tru

[night prism]

honestly, i'd use references for everything for now

i already did for most prism jokers

[dusty river]

war... war never changes-

[night prism]

weren't you supposed to sleep?

also, what's this, brown painted red card?

[dusty river]

I uhh, hehehe, yeah, lol
couldn't tho, cuz, like a dumbass, I slept midday, for a couple hours, making it so I'm not tired rn at, like, fucking, 5am lol

[dusty river]

white painted red card

[night prism]

lol, a few years ago i'd regularly wake up at 6 am

[dusty river]

I think I might actually try to go to bed now tho, lol
which sucks, cuz that means I'll probably not be able to help mod today, as I'll probably wake up when y'all are going to sleep anskjfshgk

I added a few things in the sheets for micro ranks, and don't forget that I added the basics of 2 functions, which both have issues atm,
I think that's it for things I wanted to remind you before I went to bed lol

well, gn lol, sorry my sleep scheduele broke lmao 😭

[static finch]

i regularly wake up either at 7 or 11

[night prism]

pretty wide gap between these 2

[static finch]

ikr

but it's either school or vacation

[night prism]

i think living in the middle of nowhere, with the closest high school being 30 mins away didn't help

but i know some people that travel over an hour every day to go to university, so i guess that's not too bad

[static finch]

that'll be me

too

[static finch]

still me btw

[night prism]

Why is this red? this is peak lol

[static finch]

from when do we have decimals

[night prism]

since when*

also, we discussed this while thinking of a name for the high ranks

making both macro and micro ranks

[static finch]

shite

i was distracted by italian

[static finch]

right i just didn't get the memo they existed now

anyway i desire 0s

like D&DG

[night prism]

which one do you think makes more sense?

[static finch]

second one

[night prism]

how the fuck do i make this lol

[static finch]

D&DG

[night prism]

so 0.9 would just be an almost full heart?

funny

[static finch]

budget raigeki ass

[night prism]

once in a tournament one guy shredded this card into an hundred pieces to hit all the opponent's cards

then they made a card as a reference to it

[static finch]

bruuuh

[night prism]

what do u think of unsuited cards as a concept?

they just don't count as any suit

The numbers are to change, I have no idea how to balance stuff this strong yet

I think we must first see it in game

[night prism]

Apocalyptic in case it wasn't clear

[static finch]

nothings from D&DG

[night prism]

I think making both suiless and rankless cards makes sense

"nothing of spades", "3 of nothing" and "nothing of nothing"

[static finch]

nothing

well I'd argue a blank card makes sense for nothing of othing

[night prism]

Yeah, obviously

[night prism]

i drew them in 2 mins so they aren't great rn

I added a new font for this, so other mods that replace the font will break this

this is compatible with bunco at least

[static finch]

ME FR

[dusty river]

good morning everyone!

lmao

[dusty river]

I honestly think the first one, cuz it would make the others more readable

[dusty river]

just wanted feedback on it, hehehe, if y'all like it, I'll remove the red

[night prism]

i think it's better to leave a note when making an entry red

so we know what you want feedback on

[dusty river]

mhhh true

[night prism]

also, i like it, but i got another similar idea

instead, divide all played ranks by 10

so 5 would become 0.5

but it doesn't work with macro ranks

so maybe better keep it as it is

[dusty river]

fun fact, that was my original idea, but thought it'd be really hard to word and might be wierd balance wise, lol

[night prism]

yeah, i think this is fine rn, but not for a common

instant flush five is a bit to much

[dusty river]

I was thinking maybe, cuz, while five of a kind is easier af, it comes at the cost of removing basically ALL chips from the card

[night prism]

yeah, but 5oak already has very high starting chips

more than you would get from the cards

[night prism]

also, what do you think of this?

and suitless/rankless cards in general

[dusty river]

hmmm, the joker itself may be a tad underpowered, but the idea of suitless and rankless cards could go somewhere

entropy has something like them

nil of nil

[night prism]

yeah i saw it after coming up with the idea lol

[night prism]

the power level is not really relevant rn, as i said i have no idea how to balance apocalyptics yet

[dusty river]

it's actually kinda hard to balance these in general lol, the more powerful rarites of jokers, lol

[night prism]

also ^^15 chips is crazy powerful

[static finch]

no drawback

not balanced

(arguably unsuiting cards is too minor)

[dusty river]

I mean, I was arguing in the other direction actually

cuz, it unsuits cards, making flushes impossible, and it also makes you lose mult from the joker

[night prism]

initially it destroyed a joker for every score suited card

[dusty river]

currently, it's the only apocolyptic joker that can destroy itself

[static finch]

uuh

[night prism]

if cards are also rankless that's not even an high card

[static finch]

it works perfectly

[night prism]

it's just nothing

[static finch]

you read it wrong

[static finch]

holy shit

VOID JOKER TIME

(i wanted to make a concept for one for so long)

[night prism]

indeed

[dusty river]

wwooooag, new hand type?

awesome

[static finch]

bulwark beware

[night prism]

and it takes only 56 cards to do so

[static finch]

we straight up winnin with nothin

[night prism]

yeah, just 0 mult and 0 chips

it's a drawback after all

but it can scale i guess

maybe we make the planet actually powerful lol

[dusty river]

a planet card called "Litteraly fucking nothing" which gives +1 mult and +1 chips to nothing lmao

[night prism]

yeah, this was my idea lol

also, i may have already coded these

not the hand yet

but the rank and suit are actually already in the last commit

we need to make the art though, which will be easy

maybe

[dusty river]

how do y'all feel about the new Woah Joker?

[night prism]

i'm not really sure how to do it yet really

[night prism]

i like it working like wee, i'd just nerf the chips

either way we loose a bit of the themeing

[static finch]

give it 40 or 20

[dusty river]

mhhh, I don't know what I'd make it tho, as I feel like the 80 chips fits so well lol, it also makes it's "Woah" feel more "Woah" lmao

[static finch]

woah

i read wash joker

[night prism]

yeah, but as i said, you must nerf it either way, so the woah is lost anyway a bit

[dusty river]

btw milo, I made another isaac planar joker in the sheet

[static finch]

aye

[dusty river]

I'm making it +20 for now

[static finch]

who's it

[dusty river]

Incubus :3

[static finch]

go make jello i dare you

go make balls- uh i meant keeper's sack

[dusty river]

wait wtf is jello lmao, not even the wiki knows what ur talking about lol

[night prism]

i love ghost

super cool design

negative cards but not broken

[dusty river]

thanku :3

[static finch]

did i remember the wrong name

[night prism]

i added a new app joker btw

[static finch]

that fetus thing

[night prism]

one up that helped me a lot doing this

[dusty river]

😭 not fucking Jello lmao

Gello, not Jello lol, Jello is like, the food, lol

[static finch]

aww dang it

@night prism i am joining the dyslexia team

[dusty river]

Let's go gambling!

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-joker-balatro-joker-jimbo-jimbo-the-joker-gif-15307096256787117908

[dusty river]

OOOO ONLY JUST SAW IT OMG

that's such a cool joker, lol

quintuple FL Studio run, just, fucking, Select up to 32 Jokers, create a Jumbo Buffoon pack for each containing only copies of that joker, these copies are given random paints

omg, if you had a negative FL Studio that'd go into the stratosphere, omg

[night prism]

i mean, after is exceeds your hand size it's useless

having 3 makes it X8

[dusty river]

true, I suppose, but, like, it still has some really cool synergy with other jokers

[night prism]

for sure

suitless cards

[static finch]

HELL YEAH

D&DG

[night prism]

the mtg mod adds suitless already

referencing the same mtg game mechanic i'm referencing here lol

[night prism]

rankless cards

[night prism]

all done

[static finch]

Fox_spinnnnnnn

[night prism]

god, the server that emoji is from...

it revives memories i thought were lost

[static finch]

ye olde pixels

dead in the water

as usual corpo greed ruins everything it touches

[night prism]

what happened to it?

i haven't followed in the last 10 years lol

[static finch]

well og pixel gun sucks

world is a fan prject of a radnom ass failed 2016 port of the game

[night prism]

based

also, do you like the way i designed Emrakul? @dusty river

I think it fits the character

[static finch]

I CAN'T BELEIVE IT'S NOT A POKER HAND

[night prism]

The planet will be "the emptiness of space"

Or some shit

[static finch]

"literally just nothing" is funnier ngl

[night prism]

I agree, but then we need another description for the hand

I guess leaving it empty would work too lol

[static finch]

real

[dusty river]

I'm awake again, lol

[night prism]

i sent a few things, take a look

[dusty river]

I think it'd be funny if the suitless face cards were just, missing, lol

like, the character in the card just being gone, lol

[dusty river]

I love joker from memory, lol

[night prism]

that's just rankless

[dusty river]

Nice!!

[dusty river]

ahh, lol, tru

[night prism]

ok, everything is working now

i committed

now the only thing missing are ways of getting these rank and suit in game

[night prism]

also this @dusty river

[static finch]

GREAT

[night prism]

gread

[static finch]

implode

i look at my keyboard when typing

[night prism]

i shall do it then

[dusty river]

ahh, a vistor, indeed, it seems I have slept long enough

[night prism]

why? its' not like you can see it

[static finch]

it's close enough

[static finch]

IS THAT AN APPETIZER?

[night prism]

btw the mtg mod already preceded us on the suitless cards @dusty river

[dusty river]

sisyphus when he hungry and a metal twinkie just entered his sight

[dusty river]

I like it, though, I wish that there was maybe a way that ermakul could grow as well as shrink.

[night prism]

i guess

maybe add that to the skipping blind part

because i don't want to make it too complex, it already basically has 3 effect

and blind skipping is thematic because of its relation with time

[dusty river]

mh, tru

btw, I added a new Music card to the sheet based off of ranklessness and suitlessness

[night prism]

I'm not drawing this shit tho

like, i have no idea how you'd make this in pixel art

[dusty river]

draw this one instead

[night prism]

i considered that

it's less iconic tho

this one is fire too

[dusty river]

Ooooo, I don't think I've seen that card before

[night prism]

also, we need a "15 squirrel tokens" joker

though i always hated that joke, because squirrels are green and emrakul has protection from colored cards

just change it to thopter tokens, now it works

[dusty river]

I like the squirrels from inscryption enough that I think they should have a joker, they'd be a nice one

[night prism]

real

[dusty river]

tru, but that's infinitely less funny, lol

[night prism]

true

well, in mtg a pig can kill 2 fully armored and trained soldiers

it's super funny to me that the card depicts soldiers being turned into pigs as a curse, when that actually makes them stronger

[dusty river]

horsemanship is the funniest ability they added, lol

[night prism]

wdym, banding is clearly the best

[dusty river]

giant fucking dragon vs a jouster? jouster wins, dragon can't ride

[night prism]

also, if you include universes beyond stuff truly becomes deranged

[night prism]

stuff like this is why i love this card

the flavor text is peak lol

[dusty river]

lmao, ok, that's amazing, lol

[night prism]

they should make this legal

i'd be fun

it requires you to have more than one friend in the room

that's a super hard requirement if u play mtg

[dusty river]

I need my lil guy in here

amazing card, perfect, nothing bests it

[night prism]

i love them

and rats are cute

[dusty river]

I have a 100 card commander deck with 50 of these things lmao

[night prism]

they have 50 effects like this one, and i like all of them

[night prism]

wasn't there a list with 70 of the slime one?

forgot the name of the card

slime against humanity was the name

tbh i also like this one even though i despise the ring

[dusty river]

OH MY GOD, I JUST LOOKED THIS UP ADFJDFSGNJA

[night prism]

god, this is so low quality lol

[dusty river]

I hate the ring, I hate exploring the dungeon, I hate-

[night prism]

ok prof, now go to bed

i loved the lotr set though, even though the ring is so stupid

[dusty river]

lmao, I miss the fun ones of these from back in the day, when will they care about the day/night thing again? I swear I haven't seen any good cards for werewolf builds in so long, lol

[night prism]

lol

i miss the days were bullshit mechanics were just broken

[dusty river]

I think, we should gather, like, 90 mtg fans that all hate mtg, to make a new game, that's just, better, lol

[night prism]

i don't hate it

but they are making some weird choices

[dusty river]

I love mtg, maybe hate's a weird word to use lol

hate wizard of the coast?

[night prism]

real

well, DnD is suffering even more from them imo

[dusty river]

but, like, still, I think if we gathered like 20 people who liked mtg, they'd make a way better game than mtg is currently

[night prism]

that's just like, mtg 15 years ago

still think it's hard to come up with basic mechanics better than the ones from mtg

for a game like this

Balatro Universes Beyond when?

[dusty river]

yeah, mtg's base mechanics are good, tho, I might take a page from inscryption's book and make a seperate deck that contained weaker land cards

[night prism]

friends of teferi incoming

[dusty river]

I love when I make card game ideas I never follow thru on, lmao, I wanna make like, 50 cards for this idea I have, but I know I'll stop making them so fucking quick, lol

[night prism]

what?

[night prism]

me fr

i'm still surprised i didn't get bored of balatro modding yet

[night prism]

also, this is just sticks from paperback lol

[dusty river]

you know, I feel like I need to throw some compliments out here, Milo, Poe has really grown on me, I love that effect now, and Pugnala has been a card that has made many of my runs now, lol, also, Gulag, I love the paintmaster, awesome effect

[night prism]

why would i ever want to do that?

what am i gonna do with suitless aces and nothings?

[dusty river]

hmm, maybe they need some work, yeah

suitless aces is 100x better than the other one

[night prism]

but still bad imo

unless you want to force a ace build

[dusty river]

since a suitless card can make most poker hand's except for flushes, the other can ONLY make flushes

[night prism]

which actually makes it worse, because this then gives way more support to aces than other ranks

if music cards and up not being too rare

[dusty river]

mhh, they def need some work

my thoughts on the ace thing was that spectral cards had a similar card in there, but I can see why they can do it and music cards can't, as spectral cards are kinda built around that "sometimes really useful, sometimes would literally kill you" effects lol

[night prism]

youtube is recommending me this rn

I guess it could be useful in these times...

[night prism]

also, i'm not sure how common music cards will be but i assume more common than spectrals

[dusty river]

I'm not sure yet, but mechanic wise, they're almost like an inbetween of spectral and tarot, so I assume their rarity would match that

mmmhh, not sure tho

as some are just, strictly better than spectral

they might end up rarer than spectral

I think that was my og idea

this is a good card to refrence when thinking of the rarity of these packs, think of this compared to Ankh

[night prism]

what happens if u use this during a blind?

or anywhere but the shop?

[dusty river]

hmm, I imagine we could make it work like a rework tag

from cryptid

[night prism]

for a sec i though these were Dante and Virgil from the Divine Comedy lol

tbf we do need more italian rep here, other than the vampires

2/3 of the team are italian

[dusty river]

lol, hehehe, well, I mean, I think dmc probably has a lot of similarities to the divine comedy, being that 2 of their more important characters are named so directly from the divine comedy

[night prism]

well, yes

[dusty river]

I've never actually played dmc, lol, just finished watching the anime a few weeks back

[night prism]

wasn't the anime shit? or so i heard

[dusty river]

maybe? I don't know if I know enough about the game to tell if they misrepresented it

[night prism]

fair

i don't either

[dusty river]

I think, maybe the thing is, that, the story's good, but that the story may've just been ripped from the game, so, it's possible that's why people said it wasn't good, cuz then, it's best parts were all just the same as the game lol

it's also possible it moved to fast, I've seen that happen in other works that got adapted from other media

oooooh, that may be another reason

apparently there was 2 animes

one from 2007 and one more recent one

[night prism]

oh

this makes sense

[dusty river]

wouldn't suprise me if there was a quality difference there

I know hunter x hunter had that happen

[opaque oasis]

am i still in the credits

[night prism]

you will remain there

[dusty river]

hey :3 hey :3 can u make the other gabriel :3 hey :3 hey :3

(I love the , I find it as such a fun alternative to /j lmao)

[dusty river]

should we have a rarity like cryptid's epics you think?
we have primordials, which have power levels similar to exotics, but I've thought before while making certain jokers that it'd be nice if I could just raise the rarity of the joker but I knew that it couldn't be a primordial

[night prism]

i though about that, but i didn't say it because we already have so many jokers designed without that in mind

but tbf we can change those

[dusty river]

I think we should

like, whatever rarity it ends up being, Woah Joker belongs in it

[night prism]

yeah, i considered that when you showed me whoa

[night prism]

lol, i didn't read this

[dusty river]

that'd make +80 Chips per 20 Scored a balanced effect

[night prism]

i think the other reason is that we have a lot of rarities already

[dusty river]

I'm honestly not sure how much this matters, and besides, I think you've mentioned before that you're issue isn't having to many, but too many that feel the same, right? This rarity is being planned as one that feels different, so I think it's fine

[night prism]

i don't this it's an issue

i'd just avoid bloat

but one more rarity is fine

i think making to many complex ones would have been an issue, since we already have unbound, artifact and apocalyptic which have very unique methods to obtain them

anyway, are are we calling this?

[dusty river]

mhh, I see, this makes sense

[dusty river]

I've been thinking about this, I was also gonna ask for obtaining methods, but as this is an equivilant to epics, it's probably best to just have them show up in shops

[night prism]

yeah, just shops imo

maybe ante gate for those too

but not a super strong one, just a slight increase if any

[dusty river]

mmmh, yeah

I could see them being a thing around ante 5

either them starting at that point or that being the peak of their commonness

[night prism]

that's when apocaliptics show up

i'd say they can always appear but they become more common after ante 5

at the start of ante 5 i mean

[dusty river]

I agree on the new rarity here, but apocalyptics have a specific condition to have spawn if I recall, and that's when you use a consumable of some kind, that's supposed to make the game harder, at least, that's what milo said before

[night prism]

i'm still not sure how the new mode will start

[dusty river]

I also wanted to do my own difficulty scaling thing, one that happens naturally

[night prism]

that for sure

we already discussed new boss blinds for endless

[dusty river]

I wanted to make something that can scare endless players who own, like, 15 Primordials, lmao

[night prism]

yeah

but, for now, what's the new rarity's name gonna be?

[dusty river]

hmmm

[night prism]

epic is taken already

[dusty river]

I want something kinda generic this time lmao, something on par with epic, so that, it can have as many different ideas in it as we want

[night prism]

yeah i agree

[dusty river]

without feeling like it's out of place

I'm scrolling online trying to find names for rarities lol

[night prism]

same

[dusty river]

"Mythic" seems to be a standard rpg rarity name

[night prism]

it sounds to rare to me

legendary level

[dusty river]

😭 wtf did I find lmao

[night prism]

lol

[dusty river]

https://rarities.antifandom.com/wiki/Rarities_List

this link is better lol

[night prism]

kill fandom

[dusty river]

yeah :<
I wish there was more wiki pages like this lmao

I mean

other sites like fandom, lmao, better ones

[night prism]

miraheze, wiki.gg

it's not to hard to make one using media wiki

they all use it anyway

[dusty river]

mhh, good infos

asdbfjsa the best I can find is mythic rn :<

it's hard, cuz most systems apparently have Rare, Epic, then Legendary

[night prism]

yeah, either that or stuff like super rare

which sounds boring to me

[dusty river]

yeah, lol

[night prism]

exceptional just came to mind

but it still sounds weird to me

phenomenal, extraordinary

[dusty river]

hilarous place to steal some names from that I thought of
https://antifandom.com/minershaven/wiki/Item_Tiers

[night prism]

Hydraulic

[night prism]

also for a second i read it as antifa fandom and was pretty confused

[dusty river]

lmaooo

Fight the facists via mining! Play on roblox now!

[night prism]

stuff like "marvelous" is too extreme

[dusty river]

yeah

[night prism]

it sounds better than legendary

[dusty river]

Cool rarity
Awesome rarity
Awesomesauce rarity

[night prism]

i think i'm going to deep in the rabbit hole

[dusty river]

Grotesque rarity 😭

[night prism]

peculiar is't too bad

[dusty river]

Absurd might be a good one, I can see that one working maybe

[night prism]

too much imo

[dusty river]

Woah Joker is defiantly absurd lmao

[night prism]

bizarre too then

lol

[dusty river]

mhh, idk, I feel like Legendary feels much stronger than Absurd lol

[night prism]

sexy rarity

[dusty river]

mettaton rarity lmao

[night prism]

based rarity

[dusty river]

sigma rarity

chad rarity

[night prism]

literally me rarity

[dusty river]

wojack rarity

[night prism]

woke rarity

gay rarity

[dusty river]

homosexual rarity

utterly absurdly way to rare for anyone to ever ever find ever in a million million million years rarity

[night prism]

what the hell?

how is this a synonym of rare?

[dusty river]

stupefying rarity lmao

[night prism]

fetishistic rarity

[dusty river]

unwise rarity

[night prism]

amogus rarity

[dusty river]

imposter rarity

crewmate rarity

[dusty river]

venter rarity

[night prism]

Gamer™ rarity

[dusty river]

WHUH

[night prism]

what?

perchance rarity

"Rare" lol

[dusty river]

"It's FUCKING RAW" rarity lmao

[night prism]

Raw rarity fr

i suppose limited isn't too bad

[dusty river]

that sounds almost equivalent to uncommon to me

[night prism]

something else rarity

bitchless rarity

[dusty river]

so, what have we actually gotten so far? lol
Absurd, Mythic, what else have we found?

[night prism]

exceptional wasn't terrible i think

[dusty river]

mhhh

[night prism]

absurd doesn't really have much to do with rarity

[dusty river]

fair

mythic was good, but I think I can see what you mean with it's closeness to legendary

hmmm

I think my brain kept going toward mythic do to the "ic" at the end, lmao

my brain was taped to the ryhme lmao

[night prism]

sapphic rarity

[dusty river]

SAPPHO RARITY !!! 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉

[night prism]

gdflaglesbian

the only lesbian flag i found lol

[dusty river]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WiOImmJTpIYte1QxijZeWwwUwTvXRmzAci9CJAZJmEo/%3Fsize%3D48%26name%3Dgdflaglesbian/https/cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1293164559795884133.webp?format=webp

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WiOImmJTpIYte1QxijZeWwwUwTvXRmzAci9CJAZJmEo/%3Fsize%3D48%26name%3Dgdflaglesbian/https/cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1293164559795884133.webp?format=webp

lmao

[night prism]

ok, i'm getting too far from the point here

[dusty river]

my brain's breaking from searching this scabble thing here, lmao

I just said "wtf does this mean" and the word was fucking "magic" lmao

I'm getting so many good names but they don't apply lmao 😭

ok, this, uhh, this feels almost hopeless lmao, finding another name, lol

absurd and mythic I feel like are some good ones, exceptional doesn't really feel right to me, but, it is a lot better than the sea of other options we went down lol

[dusty river]

don't forget these deck ideas exist, @night prism , for when the Micro cards are added. They could be a nice way to easily test the new ranks

[dusty river]

also, I'm going with Absurd for now I think, until we think of something better

[dusty river]

stayed up too late again afnjksgnjkgn
should've been asleep 4 hours ago fhnsdjkfshk

gn everyone, lol

[static finch]

skill issue

i'm a showoff

[keen thistle]

what the hell is that addon

that isn't a cryptid intensity i recognize

or is this the vampirica dev build

[static finch]

what precisely

i got a crapton of stuff

[keen thistle]

this

also neat mod so far, i saw the sheet and DAMN this is ambitious 💪

[static finch]

no idea

[static finch]

it's called unfiltered autism

[keen thistle]

yeah

[dusty river]

I believe that intensity is the pic for Custom intensity

When u, like, go into the thing and handpick stuff

[dusty river]

Also THANKUU :33

[keen thistle]

np!!

also i was looking through the sheet and damn this stuff is op

especially this o_o

bruh there's only one other joker i can think of that increases operation 😭

there a cap on this? (it'll easily reach omeganum if it doesnt)

[dusty river]

Milo wrote that one lol, so I'm not sure what their ideas were behind the balancing of it, lol

[keen thistle]

nah trust me

this absolutely looks like polterworx but on crack

[dusty river]

Ooo? I don't think I've heard of polterworx, what is that from?

[keen thistle]

it's a balatro mod

may i dm u the details?

[dusty river]

Sure! I'm always looking for more stuff to possibly crash my game w lmao

[static finch]

it's jen's

dense

[static finch]

ay look it's crossmod, stupid rare AND sol is already rare by itself

plus you'd need to have played an ascended hand to get it

(sol i mean)

[dusty river]

ahhh, I didn't realize that almanac also went by another name

or a new name perhaps

[keen thistle]

it got renamed

[static finch]

for no reason

[keen thistle]

nahhh im p sure there is one

[static finch]

despots are temperamental after all

[dusty river]

but yeah, lol, tru on this kinda

[keen thistle]

jen wanted a "more original" name iirc

so he renamed it to the same name he used for his garry's mod modding stuff

[dusty river]

did u see my Tree jokers yet they are my wonderful and beautiful creation

[keen thistle]

yeahhhh

neat math reference

maybe it could be this mod's happy house

but for chips instead of mult

[dusty river]

true lol, that's was actually on my mind while making it, hehehe

[keen thistle]

that feeling when you slam your head on your desk

because of an intrusive thought to make a joker based on flippy/fliqpy

[static finch]

a what

[keen thistle]

(i watched a little too much happy tree friends)

anyways im gonna make breakfast

its high breakfast hour

here in spain

spain 2025 power outage wya???

[static finch]

imagine not caring about spain

[keen thistle]

smh

yall saw the situation???

the traffic lights werent functional so they had cops work there 😭🙏

[static finch]

nope

italy's always fine and the usa is always on fire

so buisness as usual

[static finch]

@dusty river ay tell me

considering we have decimals

and macro ranks

and unstable considers a straight with decimals a gay

what about super gays

[dusty river]

Wdym?

Fuuuuuck it's 4am

I NEED to go to sleep now, lol, sorry, be back ltr

[static finch]

straight containing wrapping macro ranks to micro

[dusty river]

mhhhh, I can see something here

[static finch]

lucky you

[dusty river]

Highway? I'm trying to think of names here, lol
but yeah, a new hand for "Straight going from 20 to 0.2" would be nice

[night prism]

This is not possible, right?

[static finch]

idk it could be

[dusty river]

you'd need an insane amount of selection limit/handsize, but i think it would be

[static finch]

something something infinite deck

it's a "whole fucking deck" situation

[dusty river]

20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, Ace, 0.9, 0.8, 0.7, 0.6, 0.5, 0.4, 0.3, 0.2

that'd be the hand

[static finch]

but it's a continuous loop imo

wait

i just wonder how would 42s and the other ranks fit

i guess they just don't

[dusty river]

they don't, lol

[static finch]

a hand that includes all ranks once would be funny

anyway, do the decimals even do something special or are they just there

[dusty river]

unless you wanted to fill the gaps between 20 and 69 with about 100+ sprites lol

[static finch]

lolz

[dusty river]

they're what they sound like lol, 0.2 would give 0.2 chips

[static finch]

180 rank would be fun

[dusty river]

tho, there will be jokers that go with them

gn for real, im closing discord now, lmao

[night prism]

It is not

Normal straights don't loop either

[static finch]

i mean

i'd make it so it loops

[night prism]

No

I don't like it

Also, it would still need at leat 11 cards

Not an issue

[static finch]

i suppose

[night prism]

@static finch do you have any name ideas for a new rarity between rare and legendary? equivalent of epic essentially

[static finch]

mythical

[night prism]

we thought about this, to me it sounds to close to legendary

[static finch]

eh

i guess

but a legend is cooler than a myth

[keen thistle]

hold on

i have this lore doc

[night prism]

railgun came up with absurd, which i don't really like

[keen thistle]

for a past project of mine

[night prism]

lol

[keen thistle]

it details the Moon Island

[night prism]

"exceptional" is ok imo but it could be better

[keen thistle]

but it was on my old discord account fuuuuu

[static finch]

whatcha on about

[night prism]

damn

[keen thistle]

one sec i recovered a quick line rq

this was for a past project of mine that never made it to fruition

feel free to use these

[night prism]

"extremely primordial" is very funny lol

[keen thistle]

shiro came up with that idea

not me lol

[static finch]

IS THAT A THAUMCRAFT REFERENCE

[keen thistle]

yes

im pretty sure it is

[static finch]

extremely primordial pearls are a thing

[keen thistle]

but then i left the server cus the whole staff team dipped

i dont rly fkn know what happened

but the server was down for MONTHS at a time

[static finch]

what was the pproject for even

[keen thistle]

the hypixel skyblock fan ideas thing from 2022-2023 lmao

[static finch]

ah that thing

imagine gambling to get useless crap

and not just play modded

[keen thistle]

i used to play a LOOOOOT of hypixel skyblock

all summer break

then i got my hyperion and clicked bye

you can still see the remainders of my account on shiiyu's website lmao

[static finch]

has no idea what that means

[keen thistle]

tldr, the hyperion does a lot of shit but its basically a nuke sword imbued with the power of the gods of death

[night prism]

average terraria calamity item

[static finch]

something something i like killing things with a waffle pan

also, boring and uncreative

just what i espected

[night prism]

the creative genius talked

[keen thistle]

guys...

[static finch]

me fr :3

[keen thistle]

what if we had a joker

that alternates between being really beneficial

and downright run-ending

[static finch]

apocalyptic tier

[night prism]

apocalyptic jokers already do that

[keen thistle]

what are thoseeeeeeee

is thet a vampirica thing

[night prism]

yeah

[static finch]

pretty much

[keen thistle]

hmmmm

kinda funny tho

[static finch]

by yours truly

the creative genius

[keen thistle]

i think of apocalyptic

and i think of

[static finch]

at least in concept

[keen thistle]

💀

[static finch]

whuh

[keen thistle]

i am not elaborating

iykyk

[static finch]

idk

and idc

[keen thistle]

tbh there are prolly gonna be like

2 ppl who know this reference

(me and a friend)

[night prism]

is this fucking genshin?

at least, that's what i get from googling those words

[keen thistle]

it's chess

no srsly

it's fucking chess 💀

[static finch]

ah yes, hypercomplicating stuff for no reason

[night prism]

what chess, elon musk's edition?

"Chess is too simple"

[static finch]

i don't like it

personally

i just don't get the appeal

[night prism]

i'm sure he never won a game in his life

[night prism]

well, it's essentially the ultimate strategy game

it's hard to come up with something that tops it in that

[static finch]

imagine if i didn't wanna think

[night prism]

i know that you don't

that's why you play flushes

[static finch]

yet i win

[night prism]

yet does everybody

[night prism]

try very fair deck on the last cryptid stake

and then we can talk

[static finch]

well

i'll take your rules at face value

sleeve time

but not now

as i must go

[night prism]

fuck you

[static finch]

you didn't specify

:3

[night prism]

very fair sleeve too

if that exists

[static finch]

oh fuck you

[night prism]

also, tbf it still would be hard even with antimatter sleeve

the stakes are brutal lol

[keen thistle]

this chess

[static finch]

oh boy, I see owl house pfps

[keen thistle]

wha

??????????

[static finch]

never liked it that much personally

that just tells me that they're next level 'tism

[keen thistle]

uhhhh

whereeeeeee

[static finch]

lemme guess

my sight betrays me again

[keen thistle]

(no one there has an owl house pfp)

[static finch]

death~1

in my defense i am blind as shit and was looking at it from my phone

[dusty river]

gm, what I miss :3

[night prism]

nothing, we still have no idea how to call the new rarity

[dusty river]

lol

I added a bunch of jokers for that rarity to the sheet to, if I recall correctly

was sleep deprived when I made them, so I'm not sure how good they were, lmao

[night prism]

i think we also can change a few jokers we already made to that rarity

[dusty river]

true, I've thought about that. any ideas on which jokers you think would suit it?

also, is this enough to be an Absurd(name pending) you think?

[night prism]

almost legendary level honestly, but i think Absurd(name pending) is fine

i think an effects like this would have been cool for sappho

[dusty river]

mmhhhh, true

[night prism]

way stronger tho

[dusty river]

tho, I feel as tho that might've been a tad weak on it's own tho

not sure how a stronger version would look tho, tbh

[night prism]

also, all enhancements becomes so much stronger the more mods you have

[dusty river]

does it?

[night prism]

more mods = more enhancements

[dusty river]

wwwaaaait, I forgot how you interpreted "counts as" in metalhead lol

[night prism]

also this includes alpha and omega rn

[dusty river]

not, like, all effects at once, just like, making them apply for joker effects

[night prism]

ah

well, giving them the effects too sounds pretty primordial to me

[dusty river]

so, a wild card counting as a bonus card wouldn't give it +30 Chips, but it would let it trigger Tall and Short joker

[night prism]

yeah i get it

[night prism]

but also this

though it may be a bit hard to code

i'm not sure actually

[dusty river]

I mean, yeah, but then, what you said before would apply, the whole "Stronger with more mods" thing

[night prism]

yeah, we could make it only include vanilla ones

[static finch]

as cryptid does with codes

[dusty river]

honestly, compared to how it works now tho, that's way less powerful tho

[night prism]

i think should be an extra effect

[dusty river]

crash when hovering over frisk while in main menu's collection

[night prism]

and it should keep the other suit related effects

[night prism]

o yeah, my bad

will fix

[dusty river]

mmhhh, true

[night prism]

we can also add editions

[dusty river]

like this?

[night prism]

it's spelled tardigrade

[dusty river]

oh, lmao 😭
yeah, we should fix that lol

[static finch]

skill issue

[night prism]

the retrigs seem a bit much now

actually i may be having an idea

lemme think a sec

[dusty river]

hows this :3 this would still have the 4 retriggers do to the Cursed edition

[night prism]

there are 8 enhancements, 4 editions ans 4 seals in vanilla

we can make each suit have 2, 1 and 1

only issue is one of those is wild itself

so we need one more for that

[dusty river]

mhhhh intersting

[night prism]

balancing it may be weird though

also stone and glass have downsides, so we probably only count the upsides

we could give gold, steel and blue seal all to the same suit, for better synergy

tho keeping either seals or editions out of it may be wise

[dusty river]

I'm cooking some ideas here, hold on, hehehe

giant ass wall of text, lmao

[night prism]

you can remove "cards" after the enhancement names

[dusty river]

this is already a lot better

[night prism]

i'd keep the last cards

blue sealed waht?

also "and have the effects" is redundant imo

i think it's implied

[dusty river]

it isn't, really

metalhead actually made me think that it was a bug that the stone/steel effects triggered

[night prism]

all mods i've seen do it that way and no one seemed to be confused by it

unstable does that, so does bunco

also, reminder texts are a thing

[dusty river]

I mean, I was so

that's one person, lmao

[night prism]

(they have the effects of all)

or something like that

[dusty river]

but uhh, another problem, how would you imply that they DON'T have the abilities of said enhancements then?

like with wild joker?

[dusty river]

this works, yeah

we can just cut the "counts as" part and it'd work

[night prism]

"are considered as wild by other cards"

or something like that

[dusty river]

now THIS is a LOT more readable

[night prism]

you could shorten the first sentence even more i think

Cards of each suit count as and have the effects of:

or something

[night prism]

this sounds a bit weird tbh

"Cards have these effects based off suit:"

also, i think "count as" should still be there, so they still synergize with other effects

[dusty river]

I think they still could

similar to what you told me about that one music card

"have the effects of" could easily include joker effects

[night prism]

i guess

but we may add a reminder text anyway

also, we have gay music now

dunno if eterophony will be added too

[night prism]

also, these combination are a bit weird, shouldn't xmult be for hearts and chips for spades?

[dusty river]

"Uhhhm, why are you teaching my child about HOMOphonies? and not HETEROphonies? 😡"

[night prism]

well, heteropony is a real thing, but less common

[dusty river]

effectwise I agree 100%, but I feel like the flavor fits more, idk, I should probs swap them to be effect based more than, just, vibe based, lol

[night prism]

today the most common is polyphony funnily enough

[night prism]

polychrome is pretty hearts coded if u ask me

and bonus is spades coded too

[night prism]

for most of history, everything was homo, but then the heteros came, but they were soon replaced by the polys

absolute cinema

[dusty river]

but everything changed when the heteros attacked

[night prism]

real

make music great again

make it homophonic again

[dusty river]

the first line still bewilders me on how I should word it lol, I realize it's worse rn, but what about the lower effects? Enhancements/editions better?

[night prism]

i like the effects

but diamonds and especially hearts seem very busted compared to the others

but actually no

becaues steel and gold only work in hand

so it's fine i think

[dusty river]

also, clubs having ghost and blue seals really changes with things

[night prism]

yeah

[dusty river]

and spades with overgrown and the others lead to, just, +80 chips that keeps expanding

[night prism]

i'm actually not sure you can make them count as having the editions and seals for other cards

i know you can for enhancements at least

but that's minor anyway

this effects is probably as complex as we can afford lol

more than this and it become truly confusing

[dusty river]

it already is a little, lmao
just imagine the amount of textboxes to the side lol

[night prism]

i guess the last line isn't really needed

[dusty river]

truly some 45 degree turned wheel of fortune stuff

[night prism]

yeah

[dusty river]

nope, it's gotta have something for wild cards specifically, or else people will just fucking ignore the wild card part and turn towards whatever they want, I've seen people do this, MILO

[night prism]

no way, having all the effects is so much already

[dusty river]

I know, but the amount of people who'll say "meh, I've got a lot of diamonds, and using a WHOLE enhancement for this is a lot :<" is not zero lmao

[night prism]

like, having both the clubs and hearts effects is wild

[night prism]

well, people are allowed to play as they want, if it is bad

[dusty river]

fair

[night prism]

most players probably will use wild cards anyway

[dusty river]

I think with all this, it might be best to just backpedal though, lmao

[night prism]

also, according to thunk wild cards are getting "a lil buff"

[dusty river]

like, the effect is a lot of text, and honestly might be weaker than the original in some ways

maybe

I can't tell tbh

that's how confusing this is, lmao

[night prism]

it's not weaker at all

but i get you

dunno, i like it personally

[dusty river]

I feel like, you can't really tell what this joker will do at a glance, lol

[dusty river]

me too, just

readability+simplicity, u know?

[night prism]

yeah, i think the original "wild cards count as all enhancements" was more readable and easier to understand

[dusty river]

Wild Joker is still a thing too

so

[night prism]

but then it needs some other effects on top of that

[night prism]

i think it can just be rare honestly

[night prism]

also, i meant has having the effects of all

wich is more thematic too, since it makes more sense for wild cards to have all than for each suit to have some

well, not all enhancements, i'd exclude alpha, omega and the darkana ones

[dusty river]

I feel like having the EFFECTS of all enhancements is a bad idea, lol

counting as them is different

[night prism]

well, they are wild no?

i don't think it's a big deal really

[dusty river]

#1353027212772769792 message

we're back to what we were talking about earlier lol

[night prism]

only vanilla ones i said

[dusty river]

I think we should keep thing as they are here, if sappho's new effects ends up feeling mild in game, we can change it, but we haven't even tested it's new idea, lol

[night prism]

tbf we haven't tested the new one either

like, they are on the same level

[dusty river]

I think it's also treading on the grounds of wild joker a bit, like, I like this idea for sappho kind of, but idk

[night prism]

another idea i had was making wild card count has every enhancement currently in deck

[dusty river]

lets implement this, and also implement Wild Joker, then see

I've found seeing things ingame can offer a massive amount of clarity anyway

[night prism]

well, you are da boss in the end, i guess

[dusty river]

I feel like saying sorry right now for some reason, why is my brain like this, wabhwjfbjhdgjh

[night prism]

well, you kinda scrapped my idea, but i don't mind

this is insanely broken lol

x10 mult is wild

[dusty river]

I know lol, hehe, I'm still trying to figure out the balancing behind macro/micro cards

cuz, I know they should both be more powerful than standard ranks, as they are harder to get

[night prism]

i don't think this needs the gate, since 4 of the ranks are in the base deck already

jokers that use base cards don't have it usually

this is pretty wild on number deck

[dusty river]

hehehe :3

[night prism]

52 mult without doing anything

why not "Weer Joker"?

[dusty river]

holy shit, ok, maybe that one needs a nerf, lmao

I never did the math, lmao

[dusty river]

Weer sounds like a word to me, not like, more wee, lol

[night prism]

i guess

Weer wee joker could work too maybe?

[dusty river]

maybe "Weeee Joker"?

[night prism]

real

yeah i like this one

is "elite" a good rarity name?

i'm unsure honestly

[dusty river]

I was thinking of that, yeah

it's almost there I think

[night prism]

lol https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ColorCodedItemTiers

that website has everything i swear

[opaque oasis]

ping me when replying

[dusty river]

okey, sorry, lol

[dusty river]

hey :3 hey :3 can u make the other gabriel :3 hey :3 hey :3

[opaque oasis]

when i have time

sure

[dusty river]

Thanku :3 hehehe

[dusty river]

#1365208334583726151 message

@night prism omg, art, lmao

[night prism]

yeah, we already asked

they ignored us

[night prism]

go at the top of the thread

and see the first few messages

[dusty river]

LMAO

I DIDN'T SEE THAT LOL

you guys got there way before me, lol

[night prism]

milo finds every thread 5 seconds after it's created

they pinged me in a bunch of them right after they were created

[dusty river]

I feel like the op of that post may've either missed y'all messages or wasn't bothered to look throughout the whole sheet lol

[night prism]

@static finch you made these?

[dusty river]

we might wanna send them some of the Yellow named ones, lol

[night prism]

i think it's the second one

[static finch]

nope

[dusty river]

brb

[static finch]

but other than the moon they're all a would

[night prism]

i like the moon one

hanged man is killing me lol

[static finch]

poppy plauground sucks

[static finch]

me fr fr

[night prism]

am i insane or is justice fucking naked?

[static finch]

'tis JUSTICE.

[night prism]

also, we haven't added much stuff lately

i made suitless cards but they are still not implemented

[dusty river]

yeah, we need to add some stuffs

I think we might be getting a slight case of "I only want to make stuff for my brand new concepts" illness and cuz of that we're way out of tune with our JA(joker added to sheet) to JC(joker coded) ratio

like, I've been gaining a slight obsession with the macro cards, and I've added, like, 20 new ones to the sheet, but haven't coded a joker since I first concepted them

[night prism]

I think we should get the most important stuff out of the way

So, first we need to finish the augments

The paints are basically done, we only miss the variations

And purple must be changed

But they work perfectly

[dusty river]

purple might still need some balancing tbh, the high card growth is way to easy lol

[night prism]

I'd remove it altogether

[dusty river]

I think finishing out SIGMA would be a good idea

[night prism]

Yeah, but we still miss some concepts for that

And many need to be reworked

Ok, maybe not many, but some do

[dusty river]

the only one that's straight up missing is temperance, at least

[night prism]

No idea on the effect for that one

[dusty river]

so on that aspect we're good, though, I am curious on the rework side of things here, what needs changing you think?

[dusty river]

I think we need to come up with a name first, that's how I did the other effects for the most part

the name always helped me build out an effect I felt was interesting

[night prism]

I think some of them still feel like multiple low rarity jokers smashed together

And note like one cohesive strong effect

[dusty river]

(in that vein, we may need to rename Sappho, lol, as I now realize that it's almost a Sin that she has nothing to do with queens, lol)

[night prism]

Like, sappho does that

[night prism]

Fair

Though I think she still needs to be reworked, so maybe queens can join the equation

[dusty river]

mhh, fair, what other one's have issues you think?

[night prism]

I can't look at the sheet rn

[dusty river]

ahh okey

[night prism]

Or maybe I can, wait a sec

Atlas is already red, so we will need to look at that obviously

Erebus has the same name of an AI porn model lol

[dusty river]

I made atlas red back when I was still using it to mean "needs feedback" alongside it's new meaning of "very flawed"

[night prism]

I missed that

[dusty river]

😭 huh

Erebus is a greek goddess of darkness, lol, thas where I got the name

[night prism]

I'm still confused by dionysus

[dusty river]

I might rename dionysus tbh

[night prism]

I figured it was Greek

[night prism]

The effect is weird imo