Resurgence (WIP) - Primordial Arts

[static finch]

sure, how do i check jokers?

[night prism]

jokers is #G.jokers.cards

[static finch]

and joker slots is?

[night prism]

look at gaster

i forgot

[static finch]

aight

thanks

where the hell is gaster

[night prism]

inside of planars/undertale.lua

[static finch]

huh

did not see that

jokers.config.card_limit this?

[night prism]

so add the joker to the right file

yes

[night prism]

put the joker inside of vampire.lua

[static finch]

yes

i am

[night prism]

good

[static finch]

how do i make an effect return nothing?

[night prism]

all the primordials spawned by sigma should not appear in shop, right?

[static finch]

i don't think so

[night prism]

wdym

[static finch]

like

if you got no free joker slots or are overfilling them

sos should give nothing

obv

[night prism]

just don't return

or return nil

[static finch]

okie

like this?

[night prism]

add a =

[static finch]

where?

[night prism]

also you can remove the brackets around nil if u want

[night prism]

= should be ==

[static finch]

ooooh right

i forgot

[night prism]

but i'm not sure why you are doing this

why do you need to check if there are no empty slots?

@static finch

you can just return mult for each joker slot

if they are all full, it will return 0

[static finch]

hmm

wonder why it's erroring

[static finch]

i honestly can't visualize how to do that

[night prism]

in joker_main just return mult = 15*joker slots

use the vars obv

[static finch]

did i overcomplicate this?

maybe

[night prism]

indeed

just return the mult

if it's 0 it will just do nothing

also, charon rn gives your money x 5

which means it sixtuples you money

or whatever the word for it is

[static finch]

but they wouldn't be free joker slots

specifically

[night prism]

i meant free slots by joker slots

[static finch]

well i don't think i can make it that simple

how do i check if they're free

[night prism]

we already discussed this

slots - jokers

that's it

[static finch]

well what do you think i was doing

[night prism]

but why all the if statements

?

just give mult for each free slot

[static finch]

i thought thought it'd be tidier

but i did overcomplicate this too much didn't i

[night prism]

you can remove the if and elseif

and the last if too

just if context.joker_main then return {whatever} end

just copy paste the return contents

[static finch]

oh

yeah see why i say i suck at this

[night prism]

you need to make sure this does not return less than 0

and should add 1 to the xmult

[night prism]

yes

plus the two things i just said

[night prism]

the +1 should be outside

[static finch]

how do i do more than 0

[night prism]

rn if the mult increases it breaks

[static finch]

ok

[night prism]

math.max()

it return the biggest number inside of it

so math.max(mult,0) will give 0 if the mult is less than 0

[static finch]

where do i put it tho

[night prism]

the whole thing should be inside of it for the flat mult

[static finch]

...i am even more confused now

[night prism]

and everything but the +1 for the xmult

[static finch]

?

[night prism]

math.max(anv.multstack*(all that stuff),0)

[static finch]

huh

[night prism]

yes

[static finch]

great

[night prism]

do the top one now

and this should be done

[static finch]

well now it errors

nvm

i fucked it up

aight

[night prism]

yeah

the bracket

[night prism]

in the second one replace 0 with 1

otherwise it multiplies the mult times 0

[static finch]

won't it give +1mult always though

oh

k done

[night prism]

try it

[static finch]

surely

[night prism]

anyway, i fixed charon

[static finch]

nice

[night prism]

@dusty river what was it of alphys?

you finished her?

[static finch]

2 ways to go about that

[night prism]

both good

for once the joke is gay sex(women)

well there's a third worse way to go

[static finch]

a fourth way if you count the lab route

[night prism]

we will ignore that one

[night prism]

the only good type of gay sex

[dusty river]

the art? i did the face sprite, but never did the back

[night prism]

yeah the art

[static finch]

death~1

what about meeeee

[night prism]

you can do what you want in your free time

[static finch]

hm

[static finch]

i mean

why is gay sex (boys) not the better one

[night prism]

because i personally don't find it hot

[static finch]

line 147 is the damn math.max thingy you told me to use

[dusty river]

u are being sexism rn
u are being sexism

[static finch]

because when sexism favors women it's fine right?

anyway, i am for both so doesn't matter

[night prism]

yes

[static finch]

eh fair enough

[static finch]

so uh what do i do about this?

[night prism]

jokers.config does not exist

[static finch]

...

well you told me that

shame on you

wait no nvm

it's the one from gaster

wth

[night prism]

does it not have G. at the start?

[static finch]

no

put it and a dot

at the start of both

oh boy

[night prism]

cards

not card

[static finch]

why the hell

does it work on gaster but not this

?

wait is this joker.card that's wrong or the previous one

OKAY

IT WORKS

and as i thought

it gives +1 mult

at a minimum

why'd you tell me to do that?

[dusty river]

i think they're revesed

[static finch]

no i just checked it

[dusty river]

top one should have a max of 0
bottom a max of 1

[static finch]

would they

[dusty river]

min i mean

[static finch]

it didn't multiply by 0

[dusty river]

did u have jonker overflow?

[static finch]

no

i just had 1

and precisely 5

in my tests

[dusty river]

hmm, idk, im trying to do 2 things at once rn, lmao
so brain my be going wrong here lol

[static finch]

np

if it dies horribly i'll eventually fix it

tho you may be right

[night prism]

U stupid?

[static finch]

yes.

[night prism]

I told u to add it to the xmult

Not the flat mult

[static finch]

well i fixed it

[night prism]

Fair

We all have been there

[dusty river]

okey, I'm up for reals now lol

[static finch]

reels?

wait nvm

[dusty river]

how tf should I word this lmao

if you've never played nubby's number factory, in that game, for each loop of the round goal, you earn extra money, which is what inspired this

[static finch]

ugh

i gotta play that thing someday so this entire server stops talking about it

by pure karmic consequence

[static finch]

wait, what do you mean with 300 round score

just word it like

"earn +1$ more for every amount chips scored after each blind. amount is equal to this ante's small blind. caps at 10"

[dusty river]

chips are something different from round score tho
tho, still, thanku, as this still has some good info in it

[static finch]

i mean

isn't uh

[night prism]

@static finch do you know any mod that adds a damn search bar to the collection?

[static finch]

the round score chips in this case

[static finch]

toomanyjokers

though

[night prism]

thank you

[static finch]

it doesn't work on stuff withut loc

[night prism]

not an issue

[dusty river]

thanku, I had no idea this existed lol
downloading now

[static finch]

heh

see the autism always saves everyone

[dusty river]

btw, I added weights to the pride flags in the sheets

[static finch]

buff pride

buff pride

[dusty river]

that way they don't all have the same chance of replacing the main flag

[dusty river]

lmaoo

[static finch]

i mean

do you doubt tall buff women?

i sure don't

[static finch]

SO YOU'RE SAYING

THAT WE AREN'T ALL EQUAL?

heretic

i'll call the gaynquisition

[dusty river]

lmaooo nonono

lol

[static finch]

yes yes i get it some give better paint

still

HERETIC

[dusty river]

(the reason why is cuz a shocking number of pride flags have white/black and/or pink/purple)

[static finch]

HERETIIIIIC

wait a sec you need dogma for heresy

shite

TRAITOR

[dusty river]

what r ur thoughts on these 2?
I wanted some more synergy for bonus and mult cards

(I know tall joker isn't that strong, but it IS a common)

[static finch]

punk sucks ass ngl

who even uses mult cards

[dusty river]

😭 that was litteraly the main point of these jokers lmao

[static finch]

IT'S RARE THO

i'd say uncommon fits

[dusty river]

to make mult/bonus card runs possible

[static finch]

like

if it was slow but consistent scaling yeah

[dusty river]

hmmm, I see

[static finch]

but steel cards and mult cards are rare to have together in significant quantities

[dusty river]

so make it so the punk itself give the mult then? instead of the mult card?

[static finch]

friggin biker from revo is +1 mult to everything with no conditions

and it's an uncommon

[static finch]

eehhhhh

i think if you made it either a large mult gain to the joker with the same conditions

or

consistent mult gain on everything

it'd make sense

or just slap in in common

[dusty river]

gotcha, I changed it up a bit
btw, what's ur thoughts on tall jonker?

like, is it balanced for a common u think?

new punk btw

[static finch]

it's good enough

okay that's way better

approved

https://tenor.com/view/papers-please-gif-23166870

[dusty river]

5 jokers now that are for various enhancements

[static finch]

oo

cool

seem all pretty good to me

ANYWAY

I declare I will be concepting stupid apocalyptic jokers for my stupid apocalypse era idea

tomorrow and onwards

[night prism]

i'm going to kill myself

[static finch]

already got the squares from one shot and THE vampire

as ideas

[static finch]

is this serious

[night prism]

the damn unbound jokers are driving me insane

[night prism]

no lol

[static finch]

damn 3:

[static finch]

good

but can't you just do it the Revo way

aka crappy but functional

[dusty river]

thank god, wish u the best

[static finch]

bruh

[night prism]

they work, there's just a weird edge case that fucks stuff up

[static finch]

aka?

[night prism]

lol sorry if i scared u

[night prism]

not really sure myself actually what is causing it

it probably has to do with retriggers

[static finch]

what's the issueee

maybe my autism knows something I dunno

[night prism]

the game just keeps calling the unbound func forever

[static finch]

weird

but can't you limit it to like, a certain amount of triggers per second

[dusty river]

hmm, if this were a problem I caused I would think that maybe an end was missing inside a loop
but u way smarter than me lol

[night prism]

it seams to only happen in the ending_shop context though

[night prism]

no loops

[night prism]

so i'm assuming this context is being called over and over

ok, it also happens with other contexts

[static finch]

fun

back to square 1

[dusty river]

hmm, ok, maybe a bit of a weird, but, my odd code brain has an idea here

what about making some form of global var that you could activate like a switch so that the effect only happens once?

or something like that, lol

[night prism]

i guess

but this does not resolve the actual issue

[dusty river]

mhh, yeah

[night prism]

this is just shoving the problem under a rug

ok, it's not the function that keeps getting called

just this part

so the add_event thing is causing the issue

wait

maybe i know what's going on

ok found the issue

it seems that if the event does not return it just keeps going until it returns something

since return was inside a conditional block, if the condition was not met it would never return

though there's still a bug

lemme fix it

all works now!!!

we now have 2 functional unbound jokers

with only one being feasible though lol

[dusty river]

we need to get the other gabe ingame lol

[night prism]

rn we only have the unbound one right?

[dusty river]

yeah

[static finch]

I schedule that for tomorrow

I'll do it

[night prism]

i sadly had to nerf sly, because i have no idea how to check for joker retriggers

[static finch]

aww dang it

[night prism]

but it still works on playing cards

which was the most important part

i actually can look at how gold edition from cryptid does this

i checked wario but that method is not usable here

ok now sly works on joker retriggers too

this can be super strong though

[dusty river]

one of each card modifier at 1st ante

[night prism]

why geo hammer though lol

[dusty river]

that's just how it turned out lol

[night prism]

of all the possible jokers

[dusty river]

it just started with the red paint and the stars aligned lmao

[night prism]

i love it, don't get me wrong, but it's pretty weak

damn, i found another issue with unbounds

this is definitely my fault

[static finch]

for once

[static finch]

i also see trans theme?

[night prism]

ok, maybe it should not work on itself lol

[static finch]

the colors look familiar

[dusty river]

yeag lol, I'm using trance

[static finch]

based asf

i just like the og UI

so i don't use it

[dusty river]

fair, tbh I've been thinking of switching the colors up cuz of the mod we makin, that way I can see what an average player may see

[night prism]

fixed all the issues with unbound

[static finch]

wowie

[night prism]

so, i may code gab now

since we already have half of it

i love the way gabriel transforms

[static finch]

...from a serious threat to a bottom?

[night prism]

i like the process

not the result

[night prism]

also, bottoms are the fuel of your life

be less harsh

[static finch]

i am a switch you insinuating fuck

[dusty river]

I made some placeholders for various planars, but I can't bring myself to use them like this, I NEED to put effort in, lmao

[static finch]

don't worry

you got all the time in the world

[night prism]

well, still half of your life, right?

[static finch]

also if you manage to conjure asset rip and you get vs's sprites i'd be glad

[static finch]

crykisser

[dusty river]

for now, here's a placeholder for slay the spire and vampire survivors

[night prism]

peak

[static finch]

gabriel still a would

wait

[night prism]

love gurlil

[static finch]

i read gabriel nevermind

[night prism]

not beating the allegations

[static finch]

i mean i'd top

fr fr

[dusty river]

gurlil
our first oc joker added

[static finch]

what about all the ocs you made

[night prism]

salmon is clearly an oc

[dusty river]

fair lmao

[static finch]

scrotum fish

[night prism]

not much scrotum there

[dusty river]

what are u refering to? (other than salmon lmao)

[night prism]

all dick, no balls

[static finch]

hyena is clearly a self-insert

[dusty river]

OH yeah lol
I mean that is a self insert and not an oc tbf

[static finch]

wait why is mirage an unbound

trans allegations

[night prism]

hyenas are based though, so it's fine

[static finch]

it's a self insert and an oc

[static finch]

says the local everything praiser

[night prism]

i'm not lol

[dusty river]

it's not tho, it's literally me

[night prism]

i shit on stuff all the time lol

you for one

you suck

[night prism]

also, i'm right and you know it

[static finch]

i know i suck

maybe you too

will be

[night prism]

don't be contrarian

[static finch]

niko is too

and the WM

[static finch]

i would be very happy to, i'm not doing this because i wouldn't

:3

[night prism]

niko is based too, if you needed some love

[static finch]

i mean i don't technically but what's more gonna do

make me doubt being poly again?

surely

not

[night prism]

the hell is this?

[static finch]

it's beyond your comprehension

i love horrors beyond my comprehension

[night prism]

indeed it is

[night prism]

adding cthulhu joker?

[static finch]

also it looks like a mirrored plug

what's up with railgun and this obsession

[night prism]

fr

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-17337070286879071820

me when eldritch monstrosities

well anyway, surely that's worthy of the apocalyptic rarity

[night prism]

boykisser, apostate of gayness

[static finch]

me

[night prism]

please let me add lovecraftian entities to the mod lol

[dusty river]

it's a polydimensional tree

[night prism]

i figured

[static finch]

damn trees gettin freaky

too

[night prism]

they actually could fit with the idea milo had

[static finch]

real

but i said it so many times

god that came out bad

[night prism]

railgun said it's fine

[static finch]

nice

horax is next

[night prism]

so i guess we adding ancient ones to balatro

[static finch]

WOOOO

ancient ones and an assortment of powerful idiots for no reason

because I CAN

[dusty river]

yeag, go for it :3

[night prism]

yogg'sothoth finally will get the rep they deserve

[static finch]

you will be having stupid vampire that breaks the fourth wall and SQUARES next to the old ones

just so you know

[static finch]

moon lord goin in too

[night prism]

sure

[static finch]

and calamitas

that'd be funny

or the DOG

[night prism]

we are making them all supernatural entities i hope

to fit the theme

[static finch]

duh

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

the squares are literally out of the world's universe in lore

horax is stuck in another dimension after failing to ftl travel

the moon lord literally just tps in

and draculò keeps getting among us and other stupid bullcrap into the VAMPIRE SURVIVORS LOREEE

[night prism]

the moon lord is literally just cthulhu

[static finch]

no it's offbrand half dead cthulhu

[night prism]

well

[static finch]

or dreadbloon if you play on eternity mode

oh, phayze would be pretty funny to have there

all the supernaturally powerful idiots and serious elder gods and then

B A L L O O N

[night prism]

we adding bloodborne planars?

never played that game actually

i need a pc port so bad

[static finch]

me neither

so uh

no?

[night prism]

i was joking

[static finch]

we should also add a stupid shadow jimbo

[night prism]

but i'd love to play it one day

[static finch]

"I AM THE PERFECT BUFFOON"

"FAKER"

[night prism]

we already have "joker?"

[static finch]

"joker?" doesn't sound like a shawod the hedgehog ripoff

[night prism]

also

[static finch]

also now that i think about it chaos should be apocalyptic not primordial

[static finch]

THIS IS THE JESTER OF THE ENEMY

WE DO NOT NEED IT

WE WILL NOT USE IT

[night prism]

god this mod is so stupid

[night prism]

like, this just gives you uncountable amounts of mult

[static finch]

uncountable*

god dammit

curse you

also delirium would be fun

even if it's technically uh

just an hallucination

(a very annoying one for my marks)

[night prism]

warcraft elder gods too if i still were into that

[static finch]

never played that so

[night prism]

the grammar is leaving me

[static finch]

also i am

so

tempted to have 2 chaos

[night prism]

neither did i, just a fuckton of hearthstone

[static finch]

the VS (technically castlevania) one

and the hot hades one

[night prism]

unrelated, but today on reddit i saw a dude with a niko pfp and autistic in bio posting ultrakill memes

they are stealing your game

[static finch]

if you didnt know

90% of the oneshot fandom and the ultrakill fandom coincide

and also 90% of those are queer too

[night prism]

for sure

[static finch]

and probably neurodivergent as well

so yk

couldn't ask for better

thank you hakita

[night prism]

it was kinda funny though

not the dude, he was unfunny has hell

he got this from u too

[static finch]

if you weren't kind and a good person

[night prism]

god, this is the most convoluted wording ever lol

[static finch]

i'd be spamming bestemmie like i was giordano bruno before the execution

[static finch]

real

[dusty river]

I wasn't sure how to word it better lmao 😭

[night prism]

love u too <3

[night prism]

i still don't see the theme for music cards

[static finch]

they are just random shit

[night prism]

like, mechanically

[static finch]

oh oh

[dusty river]

hmm?

[static finch]

make them different genrse instead of notes?

so the random effects make sense

the theme should be the vague non-theming

[night prism]

they are whatever rn

[static finch]

meta i know

[night prism]

not notes lol

anything music

[dusty river]

so far, the only named one is Octave

[static finch]

btw not related

@dusty river

[night prism]

i was looking at them to add names

[static finch]

try the mist mod for enter the gungeon

it's super fun

and the character is relatable

(literally just smoke with a purple sweater)

[dusty river]

maybe after I actually beat the game once lmao

[static finch]

this mf KILLS.

[dusty river]

still haven't even unlocked a single new character or nothing lol

[static finch]

they are pretty hard to unlock ngl

the paradox is maybe the easiest

also use marine or huntress as the first ones you do stuff with

marine is just good

and huntress' crossbow is a good boss weapon first 2 floors

believe it or not

[night prism]

new music card joker obtained

sorry, i just find the fact that he has GVIDO written on top so funny

[dusty river]

I've been maining the one w the dog, which I believe is huntress
love that crossbow

[static finch]

she based

i personally main robot as i hate myself

at least in vanilla

[night prism]

i mained her too

sadly i was too bad

[static finch]

she is the best at the start

but marine is consistent throughout the whole game

[night prism]

i figured

[static finch]

as the combat training passive thingy is GOOD.

[night prism]

but i still sucked

@static finch how do we call the rarity?

eldritch seems to basic imo

also there are so many rarities lol

[static finch]

apocalyptic

i said

[static finch]

did you see revo's

did you see jen's

[night prism]

i feet this addition is cool because it gives more longevity to the runs

[static finch]

i feet

eh, not into those, you do you

[night prism]

omg

lol

i think if we just add op jokers with no new challenge the game will just became stale

probably we should add a few boss blinds too

for endless specifically

[static finch]

indeed but no weird finnish names

like SOMEONE did

we should call them something stupid in italian

alla VS pun

[night prism]

finnish is cool as hell though

[static finch]

i just can't be bothered

[night prism]

so real

i saw a mod back then that added blinds that worked almost like undertale bosses

with a whole gimmick and a sort of puzzle mechanic lol

multiple phases too

i think a sort of super finisher blind at ante 16 would be cool

nothing too complex though

@dusty river what do you think of this?

[static finch]

i got some ideas

like

[night prism]

What if ante 8 is like the WoF in terraria, and after it's defeated crazy stuff starts happening all the time

[static finch]

destroy every played and in hand card after hand scores

[static finch]

that was my idea with the apocalyptic era

[night prism]

I like it

And as long as we don't make it to weird it definitely can be done

[static finch]

"too weird"

mate i'm lazy

i wouldn't

[dusty river]

that's nice, yeah
I honestly think that we should add some kind of extra ante scaling in some sense for endless mode, that way crazy primodial runs can still, maybe, in some way, some how, die (tho, I don't like the way some mods do it, as an instant unstoppable death can be very unfun, balatro is best when there's a struggle)

[static finch]

truth

so exponential scaling?

stacking gimmicks like i wanted?

how do we go about this?

[night prism]

For sure

[static finch]

also @dusty river

[dusty river]

something like that, yeah

[night prism]

It already is

[static finch]

if i may pique your interest

[static finch]

more

i meant

[night prism]

It's x^^3 rn

[static finch]

try turning off the fireplace in the keep of the lead lord

[dusty river]

ooo??

[night prism]

We're X is the ante -8

[dusty river]

also, guess what?
I made some art for ZETA, hehehe

[night prism]

Fire

[static finch]

Z

[night prism]

Zire

[static finch]

OMBOSS?

[night prism]

Zize

[dusty river]

this needs a shader over it I think, like hologram

[night prism]

Zizz

Zzzz

[static finch]

didya notice there's always water around it?

try putting it off

[night prism]

Cool

[static finch]

(you can move barrels with E)

[static finch]

yes

but something more astral

[night prism]

I like all the primers looking different

Cool if we can make the look reflect the jokers they create

[static finch]

yeah

so spacey for zeta

haunted for gamma

and magicky for the last one i forgot

[night prism]

Sigma is pretty godly rn

[static finch]

oh and valve intro for gamma

obv

[night prism]

With all the Greek gods

Though, I still feel there are to many primordials

Considering how rare they are

[static finch]

yeah but 60% of them is just primers

i think they should just be primers tbh

not primordial primers

[night prism]

But each primer has a bunch of primordials in it

[static finch]

yeah but

[night prism]

Agreed

Easy to change

[static finch]

just make them "summons" or something

idk

[dusty river]

mhhhmmm, idk

[static finch]

they shoudn't be primordial

[dusty river]

I like em

[static finch]

considering they're only supposed to be gotten from primers

[dusty river]

don't forget here, any name change here is also a balance change

as they wouldn't be considered primordials anymore

[night prism]

I think just the primers should not be

You wouldn't keep them for long anyway

[dusty river]

mhh, fair I guess

[night prism]

The issue is more, there are just to many

[dusty river]

whatchu mean?

[night prism]

With all the primers, how many combinations are there?

[dusty river]

a lot

but

[static finch]

if it's "vanilla + cryptid" amount of primed stuff

[night prism]

22 only for Sigma

[static finch]

it's like

80?

something something a lot of stuff

[dusty river]

yeah but

[night prism]

I think this is a bit much

[static finch]

indeed

[dusty river]

primers are literally the core of this mod lmao

[static finch]

but the problem is that you either do all or nothing

[night prism]

Also because you will need a century to find all of them

[static finch]

i'd argue they are on a conceptual standpoint but uh

how many are people ACTUALLY gonna see

if primers are so rare

[dusty river]

in a single run yeah, but you aren't really intended to

[static finch]

and there's so many other things

and we have crossmod

[night prism]

Well, you can still have them

Just less of them

[static finch]

in theory

[dusty river]

you're the one who started that part lmao

[static finch]

i am for overdoing things

[night prism]

Considering it takes tens of runs to find 5 legendsries, and the primers are rarer

It could take hundreds

[dusty river]

I know but...

[night prism]

But the bigger issue is coding all that stuff

Cryptid as 180 or so jokers

[dusty river]

like, it's the core of the mod
that's everything's centerpiece
our "exotic"

[night prism]

And it's been in development for almost an year

[dusty river]

Idk... I just...

[static finch]

it's just too much

imo

[night prism]

But there are only 15 or so exotics

[static finch]

well to be fair

[dusty river]

we don't have to do everything at once

[static finch]

the exotics are pretty simple too

[dusty river]

I never planned to

[static finch]

i am dead sure if anyone of us ever tried to say "the mod is in a playable state" without all of them complete you'd have a crisis

[dusty river]

just have the primers disabled till all the base game ones are done for that set

[static finch]

i guess?

that'd feel strange though

well regardless, if you want this to be a slow burn

i can't complain

i am slow

[night prism]

So the mod misses the most important mechanic for most of it's life probably?

[static finch]

that was my point

"it's the whole identity of the mod" ok so you would want to release it without it?

makes no sense to me

[dusty river]

well, what's the alternative? huh? remove it entirely?

[night prism]

Considering i doubt we will keep developing this for years

[night prism]

No

Just have less of them

[static finch]

i mean anything is possible

[static finch]

yeah but it kinda goes against the point

[night prism]

20 or so should be fine

[night prism]

I guess

[dusty river]

(I feel like I'm, like, 8 more posts from having another breakdown)

[night prism]

I don't want to cut the altogether

I like them

[static finch]

damn

[dusty river]

just, fucking, this was my point earlier

[static finch]

agreed

[static finch]

i mean fucking is in many of my points

[dusty river]

just have only sigma to start with

[static finch]

what if they end up permanently incomplete?

[night prism]

I just think we probably will and up having only Sigma forever

Because shit takes time

[dusty river]

what if this mod ends up incomplete? what if I get shot and never see my gf? should we breakup because bad people exist? cuz bad luck exists?

I don't get this

[static finch]

i always expect the worst

i can't be disappointed

if it happens

so contingency plans are good

[static finch]

real

[night prism]

We are 3 people with close to no experience

[dusty river]

I know

and I'm autistic and have been given no help in help chats for over 5 years now, you are litteraly the first person to help me this much ever

if I stopped coding back then, I wouldn't be here, and this mod never would've even started

people hate me, honestly, they always have, I'm pathetic and an idiot

[static finch]

imagine if help chats were fundamentally flawed

[static finch]

no i don't hate you

and i think you're just misguided and too hopeless

[dusty river]

I DO have hope rn

for once in my fucking life

[static finch]

sure doesn't read like it

[dusty river]

I feel like you guys don't

[static finch]

trust me i do

i just expect the worst to avoid feeling bad

if i didn't have hope i wouldn't be doing this

[dusty river]

honestly? I don't give a fuck if this mod doesn't get "finished"

we're having fun

things are getting made

and yeah, sigma will take a while to make

but you know how long zeta will take?
only the same amount of time that sigma did, tops

same with gamma

[static finch]

fair point excluding my cosmic level embarrassment whenever i fuck up something stupid/see something wrong

[dusty river]

we can just take things one at a time

that's what I meant before

[night prism]

I like yor mentality here

[static finch]

i didn't think that was your philosophy yk

(crap i made a bad pun on accident too)

[night prism]

And this fundamentally what I mean to

[static finch]

well in that case, who cares how long i need to make something that doesn't explode on impact

if you are fine with it

[night prism]

My point was really, for now just one primer is more than enough

We can worry for the rest later

[static finch]

right

[night prism]

We have the advantage we are not seling this

[dusty river]

on this I agree 100%

[static finch]

but we should make stuff to get primers easier

to acquire

as uh

they're stupid rare

[night prism]

And don't need to finish it in a deadline

[static finch]

real

[night prism]

The most common cause for projects being abandoned is them having ambitions set to high

But this does not have to be the case for this

Since we have no limits on us

We don't need to finish the mod to put it on steam for a price

We can just do stuff, because it's fun

[static finch]

... i mean i'd pay for that track

of yours

[night prism]

Well

It did cost me to make it

In a sense

[static finch]

what, time?

everything costs time

[night prism]

Music editing software are not cheep

[static finch]

me when i don't pirate shit

[night prism]

But I use them all the time

[night prism]

Shhh

[static finch]

also, is*

[static finch]

like, the solution is RIGHT THERE

[night prism]

Don't expose my secrets

[static finch]

friggin hypocrite

anyone with a sound head would never pay for such trickery

of making new versions every 6 months, 50 bucks a pop

or something

[night prism]

You are not understanding what I'm saying

[static finch]

when do i ever

[night prism]

Though, publishing music made with pirated software is very dangerous

[static finch]

spooooky

[night prism]

The fines are very high

[static finch]

what do they know

[night prism]

Trust me, they do

[static finch]

friggin annoyances

[static finch]

how would they

illuminati response

"they just do"

[night prism]

Well, there are names attached to licenses, also samples are often audio watermarked

[static finch]

okay and? just use a fake one smh

[night prism]

There were cases of people being funked over for this stif

[static finch]

never a crime if you don't get caught

[night prism]

But no one cares if you aren't famous

[static finch]

are you?

[night prism]

I literally committed a crime by posting that song earlier

[static finch]

oh boy

who cares

it's fire

[night prism]

I don't

That's the point

[static finch]

GigaChad

[night prism]

They are not coming after me for this

[static finch]

i will

for an autograph :3

[night prism]

But you can't pirate headphones and instruments

So those still cost money

[static finch]

unfortunately

that is true

i mean just steal the hardware

ez right

don't forget the clown mask

[night prism]

Anyway, the track was fire, and I'm aware of it

[static finch]

the track IS fire

[night prism]

Fuck false modesty

I cooked

I don't always do

But I did here

[dusty river]

god, I wish I could have this confidence
give me an inch of that, pls, just an inch

of the confidence

lmao

[static finch]

overconfidence is the fall of fools

modesty is the genius' ruin

regardless, i suppose if you do feign some confidence people will believe you

no matter the intentions

[dusty river]

this is it, this is the name of the track I thinks, that'd be an awesome name

[night prism]

The only reason I'm so confident here is because I'm actually quite good at this specifically

Overconfidence is a bitch

But not being confident enough is worse

[static finch]

i was more for "primordial collapse"

[night prism]

Anyway, I'm not confident about most thigs, because I'm not good at most things

[static finch]

real

so real

too real

[dusty river]

The Fall of Fools fits balatro so well tho lmao

[night prism]

But I'm good at some

[static finch]

also real

[static finch]

like?

being a good person?

[night prism]

Music, I hope

U said that

[static finch]

yeah other than that

you got that covered for sure

[night prism]

Well, I can code decently

[static finch]

figures

[night prism]

And make passable pixel art

I also have a massive dick

[static finch]

wow that's uh

wait is that ironic

[night prism]

Yes

[static finch]

lucky you

virtue's in the middle

[night prism]

Bottom mentality

Virtue is at the top

[static finch]

switch mentality*

bitch

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/akiren-akira-ken-ken-amamiya-akira-kurusu-gif-13275758441615210099

ass quote

[night prism]

C*ntrist mentality

[static finch]

EWW no

those are just nazis in the closet

[night prism]

Real

[static finch]

(i'd shoot them if they were in ours)

[night prism]

Real

[static finch]

(OUR CLOSET FOR OUR GLORIOUS UNIONS)

[night prism]

Since you had the idea, I'm sure you will be the one coding all the apocalyptic jokers @static finch

[static finch]

suuuurely

deeefinitely

i won't be bothering you when i come up with convoluted effects and screw them up even with your help

absoluteeely

[night prism]

But you are the chosen one, Neo

Are u taking the blue pill here?

[static finch]

i'm taking both cause purple better

and paradox

:3

[dusty river]

(fun fact: the red pill is an estrogen pill)

[night prism]

Sorry, I just rewatched matrix yesterday

[static finch]

fun fact, neo puppy girl

is canon

[static finch]

rematches

yes

[night prism]

Autocorrect

[static finch]

(it's not but it would be so fucking funny)

[static finch]

ik

:3

[night prism]

I knew of matrix trans allegory, but not of matrix losercity allegory

So real

[static finch]

it's both

queer and furry

[night prism]

Real

[static finch]

why choose only one

[night prism]

Every furry chose both

Do you know any straight furries?

[static finch]

me furry so

[static finch]

they're a chimera

some saw them long ago

[night prism]

Liars

Just urban legends

[static finch]

real

so didya say you're a furry or what

[night prism]

No?

[static finch]

i dunno i remember you were asking what counts as one and whatnot

[night prism]

I'm not a furry nor i'm queer

[static finch]

some days ago

[static finch]

sure sure

that's what they all say

boykissersmoke~1

[night prism]

I was asking

I'm just insect pilled

[static finch]

...put it in a jar.

[night prism]

I'll pass

[static finch]

hah sure

fair enough

[night prism]

I like insects purely platonically

Because they are rad

Not sexy

Though I know of hollow knight r34

Those people are insane

[static finch]

i did not make the mistake to go back there again

didn't even do it intentionally, it was an adimttedly degen friend with moths in jars n shit like that

cause apparently moths are hot or something

i don't get it

[night prism]

Moths are soooo cute

But not hot

Though they are kinda furry

[static finch]

i mean just snap your fingers and moth femboys appear

[static finch]

they're fuzzy no?

like spiders

[night prism]

Yeah

[static finch]

furry lover

degen

deviant

[night prism]

Well, most insects are really

[static finch]

ik

[night prism]

Bees so cute too

[static finch]

meh

[night prism]

Ants so based

[static finch]

i don't like them

[static finch]

annoying

merely

[night prism]

True

Beetles absolutely based

The best animal fr

Objectively speaking too

Beetles are the most successful animal order for a reason

[static finch]

i find them so unfathomably ugly

[night prism]

They are just so based

[static finch]

i stopped playing bug fables cause the beetle was ugly

[night prism]

You will die

[static finch]

you will too

everyone will

[night prism]

Tell me Hercules beetles are ugly

Or ladybugs ffs

[static finch]

yes

[static finch]

NOT THE FRENCH

ANYTHING BUT THE FRENCH

[static finch]

well, gn chat

[night prism]

gn

[dusty river]

gn

[night prism]

deleting all my logs, they sure are a lot lol

[dusty river]

is that... is that like, a thing?!

oh no, I must have so many by now lol

[night prism]

inside lovely/log

[dusty river]

300

I had 300 lmao

[night prism]

look at them go

[dusty river]

lmaoo

[night prism]

still going

[night prism]

a new one gets created every time you run the game

so all the times i opened the game for testing prism did this

[dusty river]

mhhh

how do u add "messages" to jokers?
Like the little "Upgrade!" text you were talking about earlier?

I'd like to add a custom one to Tree

[dusty river]

OOOO YAYYYY