Resurgence (WIP) - Primordial Arts

[night prism]

isaac brown or pink

[static finch]

have you seen a bullet kin

[night prism]

or red

[static finch]

isaac is red and light blue

[dusty river]

Isaac is Isaac color, that weird light blue skin he has

[night prism]

why light blue?

[dusty river]

Or d6 color

[static finch]

that's blue baby

[static finch]

have you seen the logo

[night prism]

i did not remember it like that

[dusty river]

I didn't mean blue baby, also the color of the logo changes every dlc lmao

[static finch]

it's gold now

but in ye olden times it was blue

[dusty river]

Repentance is red

[static finch]

me when AB+ (god i hate delirium)

[dusty river]

Probs d6 red

[night prism]

this is rebirth though

[dusty river]

I'd say

[static finch]

yeah, and?

technically repentance is still rebirth

[static finch]

eh, fair enough

[dusty river]

Shsu

[static finch]

my reasoning was red like the rep logo

[night prism]

wasn't this the og?

[static finch]

and blue like the rebirth logo

[static finch]

yes but

[dusty river]

Damn this phone

[static finch]

i didn't play flash that much

also, where eternal edition

[dusty river]

D6 red

[static finch]

or that one lamb thingy

[night prism]

then i'm right

[dusty river]

Make it d6 rdd

[night prism]

fuck you

[dusty river]

Rd

Red

[static finch]

boykisserehh

[dusty river]

D6 red

[static finch]

bruh

white

eternal d6 white

red and black

spindown dice red and black

[dusty river]

THE D6

ALL ISAAC PLAYERS KNOW WHAT THE D6 IS

[static finch]

do you know what the spirit shackles are

[dusty river]

do u know where ur mom was last night

Owned

Obliterated

[static finch]

do you know where your dad was last night

absolutely fuckin me up

[dusty river]

At work probably

Damn capitalism

[static finch]

that's what he said

[night prism]

true, under socialism people just don't work

the best reality

[static finch]

in theory everyone works equally

[night prism]

no work is all equal

[static finch]

so your dad wouldn't work night shifts unless it was required by his job

[static finch]

did i screw it up

maybe

[dusty river]

People don't work past midnight tho, tho don't come home with broken Limbs from being overworked

[static finch]

MURICAAA

FUCK YEAH

[dusty river]

Is there any planars left?

[static finch]

are*

:3

[night prism]

oneshot?

[static finch]

oneshot is eeeh

i am content with just niko

tbh

[dusty river]

Dark Grey to yellow?

[static finch]

i just don't think they'd fit well

[dusty river]

To represent the darkness and the light

Or whatever

[static finch]

if you played the game you'd know that means nothing for the story

it's not what it's about

[night prism]

omg, ying yang fr

imma add angry birds planars next

[dusty river]

Well, it's the surface of the game and the surface tends to represent a game, I said lesbian colors for slarpg not [redacted]

[static finch]

bubbles.

NOW.

[static finch]

what

[night prism]

i mean, that's in the name

[static finch]

is this scp again

[static finch]

if you didn't go further than the surface with oneshot you didn't play oneshot

[dusty river]

What colors would u suggest then

[magic sand]

Add my goat bumerang

[night prism]

most underrated bird

[static finch]

you mean hal

absolute peak

[magic sand]

They did My boy so dirty 😭

[static finch]

purple and yellow, for even more obvious reasons

[night prism]

matilda will just be egg printer

[magic sand]

Completely made him disapear

[night prism]

fr

[static finch]

EGG.

[static finch]

imagine not playing the recent shitty games

[night prism]

also the one that inflates

[static finch]

BUBBLES.

[night prism]

forgot his name

[static finch]

NOW.

DO IT.

[night prism]

i will

[static finch]

niko64

[night prism]

they are perfectly in sync with the music i'm listening rn

[static finch]

i am always in sync

[night prism]

not anymore :(

[static finch]

aww dang it

[magic sand]

Ok back to arting

Tell me which joker do I art

[dusty river]

Gimme a jonker for the one that splits in 3

[dusty river]

Gastar

Gaster

[magic sand]

Gasta

Gaspar

:3

[night prism]

the blues, so based

[magic sand]

Okiiii

[night prism]

3oak joker

3oaks are so ignored by vanilla

[dusty river]

Hear me out, specifically 3oak for same suit

[magic sand]

We should add the TF2 spy and he lets you backstab blinds

[night prism]

only the trio

[night prism]

i was thinking that for mantis lords fron hk

[static finch]

spies gaming

[dusty river]

Maybe even all clubs, cuz they blue

[static finch]

YES. YES. SPY SUPREMACY

[dusty river]

Tf2 engineer that makes turret jonkers

[night prism]

tweak synergy

[static finch]

real

he solves practical problems

[dusty river]

TRU

Inspector Gadget
Uncommon
+5 Mult
Can have any number of tweaks

How's that lmao

[night prism]

lol

funny but idk about power level

[dusty river]

Just stack 15 levers on him lmao

[night prism]

seams week

because tweaks are useful on good jokers

not just +5 mult

[night prism]

not possible to stack the same tweak

[dusty river]

Ogh :<

Nvm lol

[static finch]

bruh

inspector gadget should gain more power as you have more applied tweaks

not tweaks on himself

[night prism]

that was pretty thematic though

[static finch]

unfortunately it's not good

at all

[night prism]

i agree

[static finch]

maybe he changes his passive depending on the applied tweak?

[night prism]

but it was a cool cocept

[dusty river]

It could've been
Goodbye 15 lever inspector gadget

[night prism]

btw i'm adding swiss knife joker to prism

just had an idea

[static finch]

STABBING PEOPLE

[dusty river]

Oooooo

[static finch]

MMMM

[night prism]

good luck stabbing with a swiss knife

[static finch]

i must make it work

also who said i don't have a grandpa completely capable of modding it

[night prism]

southern italian grandpas for the win

[static finch]

more like

he directed the entirety of borgo egnazia's contruction

[night prism]

based

[static finch]

and built a stupid amount of churches, homes and other crap in torino

and some random clergy's houses too

he forgot the list

well anyway

he based indeed

so anyway

question

we going to add NOTHING from modded terraria?

or minecraft

[dusty river]

Orchram, let's add orchram

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

ocram*

[night prism]

i'm down for it

[static finch]

anyway, glorious

i need a soul of terraria primordial

which does what gaster does

but even better

like, just a stupid amount of pretty good effects

why can't i type today

[night prism]

does blatro x terraria add an effect resembling the zenith crafting tree?

[static finch]

i don't think so?

[night prism]

it wloud be kinda funny

[static finch]

their stuff is pretty straightforward

[night prism]

you need to collect all the swords to get the op one

fusion jokers but more

[static finch]

okay but what about thorium

i need beeg jellyfish

[night prism]

true

the stupid bird too

[static finch]

the one boss i always forget exists

cause that equipment just sucks ass

[night prism]

also, aren't the final bosses literally called primordials?

[night prism]

me too

[static finch]

oh yeah

omega core

hah

[night prism]

i always fight it in the middle of harmode

[static finch]

i like goin FAST

[static finch]

i just don't bother

[night prism]

the big bat too is cool

[night prism]

i oneshot it by then

just for completion i guess

[static finch]

fair enough

go kill the dungeon guardian

[static finch]

i don't like him cause i can't be bothered to find the chamber

anyway, i also need a hero of light boss from the stars above

[night prism]

it's not that hard

[static finch]

what was his name

[night prism]

what?

also the gladiator

[night prism]

what was your idea for modded minecraft?

[static finch]

thaumcraft

rftools

one CC tweaked joker

HBM

aether

[night prism]

never played that actually

[static finch]

ah yes another one i don't like that much

[static finch]

HOW

HOW THE FU-

just go and play it

[night prism]

good

[night prism]

maybe i did

i don't remember

[static finch]

the one with the wands

[night prism]

i play with pretty huge modpacks anyway

[static finch]

and the stupid vis node magic system

how huge

[night prism]

like dunno, 500 to 1000 mods

[static finch]

holy

[night prism]

half are api tbf

[static finch]

yeah i think there's a point where i don't care about how many mods you add it just sucks

[night prism]

i'm pretty considerate with what i add

only a bunch major content mods

[static finch]

and the rest is all tweaks?

oh god literally rimworld

[night prism]

most of them are like, the one that adds 100 more foods

[static finch]

USELESS

[night prism]

but i like food

[static finch]

and i just wanna eat porkchops till i die

[night prism]

fair

ok maybe i was exaggerating when i said 1000 mods

but still a lot

[static finch]

bruh

i just run 200 mods at most

on 1.7

[night prism]

the og

[static finch]

i am

TC4 my beloved

[night prism]

well, by now most mods are updated to more recent versions

but the 1.7 times were glorious

[static finch]

i despise anything higher than 1.12

except 1.16.5

[night prism]

i mean, dunno

i just don't care

[static finch]

real

[night prism]

most new features are kinda irrelevant to me, but not a malus

[night prism]

malus? shadow of the colossus planars?

[night prism]

also i like bees

[static finch]

never played any of those

[static finch]

real

[static finch]

the concept of bees always bored me to death

i wanna blow myself up with my own nuclear reactor not grow beeugenics

[night prism]

i have one mod in my modpack that makes them all spawn with different pride flag colors, but i have no idea what mod it is

[static finch]

GAY

EGG

[night prism]

but they cute

[static finch]

i mean fair enough

[magic sand]

I decided to make them a little less high effort cuz they are supposed to be placeholders

[night prism]

no way we can make that backround in pixel art, but cool

[magic sand]

You can actually

It's a font

[static finch]

HE IS SO REAL

[night prism]

still to small

[static finch]

why would they be only placeholders

[magic sand]

No pixel art

[static finch]

death~1

[night prism]

because they are not pixel art?

[static finch]

i mean just pixelize it

[night prism]

it looks like shit

[magic sand]

You can still represent it with pixels

[night prism]

you will get kino like jokers

[static finch]

i was joking but this one didn't have a punchline so my bad

[static finch]

peak

[night prism]

indeed

[magic sand]

☺︎⚐︎😐︎☜︎☼︎

[magic sand]

This is the text

[night prism]

tbf can u even see the difference?

[magic sand]

You can represent it with few pixels

[static finch]

probably?

[night prism]

i can try

[magic sand]

You just need like, 3 circles, a triangle and a square lol

[night prism]

yeah i know

[night prism]

have u listened to the updated music?

it's close to finished

[magic sand]

Nope actually

Lemme hear itttt

[night prism]

here

[static finch]

illuminati real?

[night prism]

i could make it a 12 minute long epic like stained, brutal calamity lol

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/mlg-illuminati-illuminati-confirmed-conspiracy-theory-gif-4887893

[static finch]

yeah it gets tiresome around 6 min in

ngl

[night prism]

i kinda agree

[static finch]

also who would listen to all that jazz

when you can have distilled, sublime primordiality

[night prism]

so true

[static finch]

(if that actually became the title it'd be so stupid)

[night prism]

but so funny

[static finch]

so you will?

huh

[night prism]

maybe

[static finch]

nikothumbsup

[night prism]

i have no idea why the middle section sound so groovy

[static finch]

it just has a life of it's own

[night prism]

like, it's nosense drum spam

[static finch]

and groove is primordially good

[night prism]

but it sounds so great

def gonna make it quiter though

it's almost as loud as the climax

[static finch]

i must not make a joke

i must not make a joke

[night prism]

listening to peak rn btw

[static finch]

OH MY GOD

I GET IT

[night prism]

that joker is still not coded

[static finch]

I WON'T LISTEN TO IT

JUST OUT OF SPITE NOW

[night prism]

no need

i'm joking

it's good, but like, do what you want lol

[static finch]

if you don't take it personally there's no point

nikodisappointment

[night prism]

you act cute when you are annoyed, or pretend to be

[static finch]

maybe i am just like that

it's instinctive, at least concerning those reactions

so my bf tells me anyway

[night prism]

cute by nature?

[night prism]

i bet

[static finch]

cute when annoyed

at least

god i'm feeling a giant dejavu rn

[night prism]

i'm confused

[static finch]

literally just getting dejavu from this conversation

[night prism]

i'm trying to find were the CRY_EXOTIC color is defined

but there literally is no definition for it inside of cryptid

[static finch]

bruh

[static finch]

i just got told i deserve it

by him

i hate getting called out :3

[night prism]

so undertale is purple?

maybe make it 2 colors

so they all have an animation

[dusty river]

Purple an red?
Purple and black?
Black and red?

Red and white?

Red and white feels right

||Human|| and ||Monster soul||

[night prism]

i'm not sure how to animate the colors yet

[night prism]

true

[static finch]

mm

[dusty river]

Go play undertale

[static finch]

i think black and white

[static finch]

you idiot, i already said

for the millionth time

i did genocide on ps vita

[dusty river]

Yeah, u did geno then looked up pacifist online, I know, u don't get it tho

[static finch]

i know that bullshit about asriel

i don't care that much

murder is fun

[dusty river]

I have better say than u here then

Frisk has more say about the nature of undertale than Flowey does

[static finch]

it doesn't matter who speaks

i draw my weapons anyway

terrarian style

[dusty river]

And I hold determination

U cannot defeat me

[night prism]

white and red is maybe not a great idea since the text is white

[static finch]

i cast gun

[static finch]

yeah

coca cola christmas colors

[night prism]

lol

[dusty river]

Just have it be a darker white right?

[static finch]

I LOVE CAPITALISM

[night prism]

that's called gray

[static finch]

isn't the logo like black and white

darker white

[dusty river]

U KNOW NOTHING, NOTHING

[static finch]

yes just like the guys at the southern border

[static finch]

i know that determination is the ultimate plot armor

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

but if frisk can cheat their way to victory in genocide so can i

[dusty river]

You're so dumb

This is what happens when u only play genocide people

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

this is what i don't care about

i was there to kill not to be a socialite :3

[static finch]

also, look who's talking

[night prism]

the colors should prolly have different hues

[dusty river]

Genocide was purposely made to feel bad to play, did u know that?

[static finch]

yes but

murder requires sacrifices

[static finch]

ya

[night prism]

otherwise it's just the same color becoming lighter and darker

[dusty river]

Hejeheuie

[night prism]

so black and white should be excluded

[dusty river]

Wjehhshyfu

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

i was DETERMINED to be horrible

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-a-wall-gif-9702424950693960694

[dusty river]

I can't talk rn skdjdh I'm so fucking sjajjs

I at dentist
I want to yell at u bout undertale and how wrong u are about everything

[static finch]

i know i am wrong

genocide is wrong

but do i sound like i care

[static finch]

ERROR

[dusty river]

OOO

[static finch]

what's that sound

[night prism]

gaster rarity

[static finch]

oh

[night prism]

you yapping

[static finch]

oh in that case

good

@night prism lemme

@night prism

ping you

@night prism more

i like yappiing

:3

[night prism]

i will extract you spine

[dusty river]

Cat behavior

[static finch]

YAY :3

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-spin-silly-cat-silly-cat-gif-15869807335045066863

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-4190987188204170979

[night prism]

he spinning

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

prettygay

[night prism]

real

imma start using real to answer to anything

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-15006802564993248645

[night prism]

real

[dusty river]

U only playing genocide explains why u thought sans should be primordial 🙄

[night prism]

he spinning too

[static finch]

HAHA

it wasn't me

[dusty river]

?

[night prism]

it was me, i said it should have an unbound form

[dusty river]

When I first made him

[static finch]

HAHAHHAAAAA

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-cat-gif-950381030543766941

[night prism]

other than the regular one

[dusty river]

When I first made him u said uncommon was too low

It was u

[night prism]

fair

[static finch]

yeah but like, didn't say it should be primordial

rare at best

[night prism]

sans is cool

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-kisser-of-boys-boy-kisser-i-know-what-you-are-i-do-know-what-you-are-gif-4872465454187401382

[night prism]

both the music themes associated to him are peak

tbf all the music from that game is peak

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-boykisser-gif-2445408533974923033

[night prism]

me fr

[static finch]

ikr

[dusty river]

Ah, yes, the song that plays when you fight sans is my favorite

[night prism]

no, i meant..

YOU fr

[static finch]

the classic

[dusty river]

Not megalovania, the other one

[static finch]

suuuure

:3

already screenshotted

you will take responsibility

[night prism]

i'm not deleting my comments

i'm not a pussy

[static finch]

you are ass not pussy

indeed

[dusty river]

U r now
shoots w cat ray

[static finch]

nerdkisser

[night prism]

real

[night prism]

fine

[night prism]

cats are the only good pussies

[static finch]

real but i am not a cat

nerdkisser

[night prism]

this is so damn funny

[static finch]

ikr

[night prism]

erm, aktually, you are gay

[night prism]

you fr

[static finch]

also i know what i am

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-love-give-mad-sad-gif-9393528512167673512

[night prism]

so much not a cat that your identity is just a mix of niko and boykisser

[static finch]

boykisser is unidentified

and niko denies being a cat

so yes

not a cat

[night prism]

cat denial

also why? cats are cool

[static finch]

nikodizzy~1

[dusty river]

isuggestforcecat
"I have a suggestion"

[night prism]

i'd be one if i could

[static finch]

forcefem but furry?

hell yeah

[static finch]

real

closet furry

[night prism]

like, my cats are just chilling all day

[night prism]

if only

[static finch]

see everyone here is a gay autistic furry at least

glorious

nikosmug~1

[night prism]

real x2356

we should add the flags to the game btw

so, what color is ultrakill then?

[static finch]

black and blood red

duh

[dusty river]

V2 Red and v1 blue

[static finch]

you mean RECONSTRUCT WHAT? red and I DON'T WANT TO DIE blue

[night prism]

and vs?

please no more red

too much red

[static finch]

did you

perhaps

see the title screen

[night prism]

i did

[static finch]

if you didn't put red where it didn't belong the problem wouldn't exist

[night prism]

that's why i say this

[night prism]

what would that be?

you said that ultrakill should be black

[static finch]

and red but duh

it's also in the title

undertale needs no red

most of the game isn't

[dusty river]

I hate you

[static finch]

except the area before the lab

[dusty river]

You are so simplistic

[static finch]

i am

but

it's 2 colors not the end of the world

and VS is red everywhere

[dusty river]

0 style
0 swag

[static finch]

0 obscure colors?

well what would you put for vs then

tell me

[dusty river]

Vs is fine, but reducing a game to it's title is sad

Undertale is 100% at least part red and there's no way that boi is blue in Any amount

[static finch]

okay so

tell me

what colors do i think of when i think of VS?

[dusty river]

I said u were fine w vs

[static finch]

whiteout's eye-gorging white?

or the damn title screen

[night prism]

red fits undertale for sure

but we can find something else

just to not have all red

[static finch]

i mean the undergrouund is almost always black

is it not

[dusty river]

?why

Jjdks

[static finch]

cause uh

all red?

[dusty river]

I can't think rn, I'm at the fucking dentist lmao, I don't have time to contemplate the amount of red in something

[static finch]

dentist?

i need my payday

too

[night prism]

i can make the red darker

for now i'm using vanilla red

[static finch]

oooo

[static finch]

https://youtu.be/_Evgh1Es_Z8 i cast HYPE

[static finch]

mmm

that's even better

[night prism]

these are the only planars currently in

we need to speed up the coding imo

we are adding stuff pretty slowly

i can do something but i also have prism to work on

[static finch]

to be fair i will get crackin for real the second vacation hits

which is after tomorrow

[night prism]

true

[dusty river]

Idk if my mental health will ever be good enough to add more jokers faster at this rate

[static finch]

anyway expect me to bug you

[static finch]

better slowly than never

[night prism]

i'll probably be a bit less active then, i'll touch some grass

[static finch]

OH GOD

NOOO

NOOOOOOOO

[night prism]

only a bit

[static finch]

my condolences

[night prism]

just a few blades

[static finch]

Saul

[night prism]

btw why did u chose Dionysun for death rather than Hades or Thanatos? @dusty river

[static finch]

i said thanatos rifle from payday 2

but she just didn't get it

[night prism]

i know he's god of death too, but those are more iconic

[static finch]

i think that was the reason

yes

even if i prefer the drunkard tumblr sexyman hades version

tbh

[dusty river]

Please, not right not right now ntorb tbnorijrhtb

[night prism]

you can be both

[static finch]

just put DND

that'd be clearer wouldn't it

[static finch]

i'm sorry, no, i can't be that hot

[night prism]

you are a genius indeed

[static finch]

genious

[dusty river]

Milo, I'm feeling not good right now, when I say, not right now, please not right now-

[static finch]

i was genuninely making a suggestion

[dusty river]

Idk

[static finch]

boykisserSad~1

[dusty river]

I don't know why my heads like this

Hhshahhahahahahah

[night prism]

the British would be capable of that

[static finch]

don't worry

i don't take it personally

[static finch]

https://youtu.be/zZzxGu_7_0I

[dusty river]

I'm feeling like garbage rn and I keep trying to explain things then things from weeks ago that got l
K0

[static finch]

I what?

[dusty river]

I can't explain anything rn hahaha, I'm fucking terrible hahaha

[static finch]

DW

I'll wait

[dusty river]

I'd turn off my phone, but that'd turn my music off too

[static finch]

damn

true struggles

[dusty river]

U can continue talking and working on the mod while in gone, just

Idk, I think I'm overreacting rn

[static finch]

you are, yeah

but don't worry

[dusty river]

Just, don't change anything already in sheets til I'm outta the dentist, okay?

[static finch]

okay

but we won't touch your stuff anyway

[dusty river]

Sorry lmao, I really wish I wasn't at the dentist rn lol

[night prism]

i'm not really sure about this

i'll add it to the sheet for now

[static finch]

looks good other than the gray bg

[dusty river]

It looks good!
Sure, there's issues, but it's a lot better than before, add that thang

My note would be, that the face needs more contrast

[night prism]

i mean, that area has a gray background, does it not?

[static finch]

yeah but

not that gray I think?

[night prism]

it's black

but this is the darker color allowed in balatro

[static finch]

yeah make it black

[static finch]

what?

[dusty river]

Background's fine imo

[night prism]

all the black in the game is this color

sock and buskin

[static finch]

well I want actual black

[night prism]

you will not have it

this is a bit darker than that already, like campfire

[static finch]

3:

[night prism]

how do i add a picture?

to the sheet

[static finch]

just drag it?

I dunno

[dusty river]

I know

[night prism]

doesn't work

[static finch]

huh

[dusty river]

U gotta copy
Then paste

Then

[static finch]

I know that you know but I do not know if he knows

[dusty river]

Click the box u want the art to go in

And

Click the 3 dots in the corner of image

There should be a option

To put the image into the box

That should do it

If u can't do it I can get it done when I get home

[night prism]

i did it

[dusty river]

Yayyy

Good job :3

[static finch]

~~now do me too ~~

nice

[night prism]

sure

[static finch]

HUH

boykisserbonk

[night prism]

i'm adding the other art gauss did

[static finch]

AGs_Niko

[night prism]

@magic sand where's your papyrus art?

i can't find it

[static finch]

imagine if papyrus had actual papyrus as art

[night prism]

lol

the joker text will be in papyrus obv

[static finch]

duh

[dusty river]

Omg, thad perfect

[night prism]

and sans's one in comic sans

like

[static finch]

i must install trance

[night prism]

that's the whole point

[static finch]

just to get trans theme

and comic sans font

everywhere

(still cis btw)

[dusty river]

Gaster is wingdings

[static finch]

i'll tell y'all when i get E

not bottom surgery, who needs surgery for that

[night prism]

does that count as being joker text though?

if it's illegible

[static finch]

prob not?

i mean it is incomprehensible

[dusty river]

Yah

Jokerchan is in Japanese lmao

[night prism]

but gaster has its own rarity

[night prism]

japanese is, contrary to popular belief, an actual language

[static finch]

i should make a miku joker with a stupid american japanese stereotype desc

[night prism]

windings is not

[static finch]

yeah unfortunately

[dusty river]

So is windings

[static finch]

i'd like to speak in modern hieroglyphics too

[night prism]

so we can just say that it's special

[static finch]

just like meeeeee

Niko Adorable

[dusty river]

Windings all translate to actual letters with meaning and that's how gaster uses it

[night prism]

you are very special

[static finch]

by the way

if you're wondering why i can't do stuff tmrw

[night prism]

no joke here

[static finch]

is because of said specialty of mine

aka psych appointment

[static finch]

it can still have multiple meanings

[night prism]

you actually becoming autistic confirmed?

[static finch]

i am i just need to prove it

well, probably am

[dusty river]

One of us one of us

[static finch]

i mean do you lot have a diagnosis or somethng

[night prism]

well, i'd worry if you aren't

[static finch]

hah

i doubt it

[night prism]

then what's it?

[static finch]

even then, if it's not the 'tism it's something else

still getting my legal rights

[night prism]

that's why getting diagnosed is actually good

you still ill

at least have a diagnosis

[static finch]

i know

i'm not opposed to it

[night prism]

you shouldn't

[static finch]

if i gotta be highly unlikeable, weird and all that stuff at least i have an excuse

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

zespy~1

[night prism]

i need to get diagnosed too

for that reason

[static finch]

ONE OF US ONE OF US

[night prism]

yes please

[static finch]

gay furry with mental disorders :3

[night prism]

it would be so funny if you are actually sane though

[static finch]

the delusion would loop back around to be grave enough for another diagnosis

[night prism]

severe psychosis i that case

[static finch]

STILL A DIAGNOSIS

A DIAGNOSIS IS A DIAGNOSIS

well also add murderous tendencies

[night prism]

i missed this

is this good?

[static finch]

i gotta call revo

[night prism]

like, it takes a lot of joker slots

[static finch]

blueprinter does too

[dusty river]

And essentially works as a copy of any joker u have at any moment

[night prism]

but that's not legendary and it's every blind

[night prism]

but for one more jokers slot

i like the idea but it may need a lil buff

[static finch]

hm

[dusty river]

Yeah, and anhk is the least used spectral lmao

[static finch]

maybe but still guaranteed blueprint is pretty powerful

just blueprint gaster

[night prism]

yeas but there's already a joker that does this

it's called blueprint

[static finch]

bruh

[dusty river]

?

Every blind?

[night prism]

the issue imo is that you need to spend a whole ante with one less joker slot

[dusty river]

No u don't

[night prism]

for it to be as strong as a rare

and 2 for it to be stronger

[static finch]

.

[night prism]

it does not tough?

unless the text is missing something

[dusty river]

You could have 3 at end of 2nd ante

[night prism]

you start with one?

[dusty river]

ITS BLUEPRINT, IT MAKES BLUEPRINTS AND IT CAN BE EFFECTED BY BLUEPRINTS

[night prism]

o yeah, missed that

[static finch]

was clear to me

Clueless~1

he stupid

[night prism]

but still a bit slow imo

2 antes for 3 blueprints

[night prism]

indeed

[static finch]

it's a rare tho

or is it

[night prism]

it's legendary

[static finch]

wait me stupid

too

[night prism]

that's the whole issue

it would be fine as a rare

[magic sand]

Its epic

Duh

[dusty river]

So a rare that makes 3 copies of a specific rare that specifically copies the effect of any jokers u want is a rare to u?

[static finch]

yes obviously

[night prism]

3 copies after 5 years

[static finch]

still potential

[dusty river]

Quituple gaster common when

[night prism]

you need 2 empty joker slots

[static finch]

also, copy something obscenely op and you don't even feel it

[dusty river]

Just sell

Sell before boss blind is over

[night prism]

i guess

i just think i'd just prefer blueprint and showman

maybe

dunno

[dusty river]

Bruh

[night prism]

showman is uncommon

so obv is weaker

[dusty river]

How many fucking blueprints would u find that way

[night prism]

not many

[dusty river]

Maybe 2 in total in a run

Alyphys can gather so many more

[night prism]

point is, it's too slow

for a legendary

i'll make it every big and boss blind

so you can do it in one ante

[dusty river]

ITS FREAKING BLUEPRINTS
CANIO DOES LITTERALY NOTHING TILL U FIND SPECIFICALLY A HANGED MAN

[night prism]

dunno

how good is blueprint printer from revo? i actually never used it

i assume it's very overpowered

but how much?

[dusty river]

He makes everything into a printer

[night prism]

i think the issue with alphys is that since it's legendary, you can't chose it

so often you will get her when you have 3 or more good jokers

and you will need to sell one

for a blueprint that may not even be better

[dusty river]

Canio synergies with like 2 jokers in base game
Alphys synergies with Every joker

[night prism]

blueprint is as strong as the joker it's coping

[night prism]

jimbo synegizes with all

still shit

i feel alphys is cool, it could just be pushed a lil bit

not a radical change, mind u

[dusty river]

I don't think it's needed tbh

[night prism]

also canio can carry you alone

you can win with just canio and any mult joker

[dusty river]

IT DOES NOTHING FOR LIKE 2 ANTES WITHOUT SPECIFIC SYNERGIES

I like canio

[night prism]

i know

[dusty river]

But point here is

Alphys can help ANY build

[night prism]

arguable

any bild that need more than 2 different jokers does not benefit from her

because you can only have on joker after the second ante

if you want her full potential

or 2 if you think 2 blueprint are enough

[night prism]

which means that you will need to sell one of the 3 good jokers for a blueprint

tbf most builds can sustain themself with just 2 jokers and a lot of copies

so idk

i guess playtesting will be needed

why are we even arguing?

just code it and test how good it is

it's also very easy to code

anyway, i guess i'm coding alphys now

already committed

[night prism]

if you prefer we can just call her alphys, the full name makes the text box a bit to wide imo @dusty river

i already removed the from the name

but minor anyway

[dusty river]

just remove it all I guess

[night prism]

i think there's should probably be a way of writing the name in two lines

[dusty river]

also I meant to say more up there, but my phone died lol

[night prism]

i'd prefer it that way

[night prism]

no problem

as i said, no point in arguing when we can just test in game

[dusty river]

true

[static finch]

yeah but doesn't gaster have that too

[dusty river]

you know, I think this is a good mentality to go on with I think, this arguing is making me stressed and is delaying development

[night prism]

if there's one universal rule of game design is that you should never trust stuff theoretically

you should always test

[static finch]

i like making convoluted theories

tho 3:

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-mommy-glados-portal-2-glados-gif-1038295394356380203

[dusty river]

also, this
if alphys is getting changed, gaster should to
(am gonna miss that connection tho)

also, I'm home now, btw
if that wasn't obvious

[night prism]

this is why many great games with great designers still end up adding broken stuff from time to time

[static finch]

i see it from your pc turning on :3

[static finch]

not valve

scorch chot

[night prism]

i'll see if i can add a line break

[dusty river]

you wouldn't be the first robot girl I've found inside my computer lmao

[static finch]

no i uh

[night prism]

this is very common with card games

[static finch]

i have vencord

[static finch]

i know

thank you konami for making the egyptian gods shit

i hated the concept

[night prism]

like, the designers are geniuses but they fuck up all the time

[static finch]

something something chansey in pokemon tgc

or was it clefable

i forgot

[night prism]

just think that the edition tags used to be a 1 in 3 chance of giving the edition

they got buffed and still suck

[static finch]

hah

[dusty river]

the change was actually that they use to cost money if I recall
now they're free

[static finch]

unpredictability is lethal

for tags

[night prism]

that too

[dusty river]

unless I wasn't there for another change

[static finch]

that's why unless you dupe negative tags it kills them

[dusty river]

ahh

[night prism]

though the tags going nopewas fun lol

[dusty river]

(they're should be a challenge/deck which adds that back lol)

[night prism]

you will probably never skip

you already should never skip for edition tags 90% of cases

maybe for negative sometimes

but rarely

[static finch]

well gambler tag 2.0 could be something

i know original idea

but what about a 1 in 2 for a guranteed primordial in the shop with an edition

[night prism]

the only good tags are investment, economy, reroll, voucher and sometimes coupon

and voucher and reroll only in rare situations too

i love reroll tag though, probably my fav

because it can save a run, but it's not very strong in general

this is the type of strategic thinking tags should offer imo

[static finch]

sometimes coupon?

it's quantity and quality sometimes

[night prism]

very early game it can help

[static finch]

my fav is definitely coupon early game

[night prism]

if you have no money

but late it's shit

[static finch]

next on the list is investment then voucher

[static finch]

real

[night prism]

voucher is only relevant in endless really

[static finch]

i like voucher tag

[night prism]

when you are looking for a specific one

[night prism]

i do too

i think many tags are well designed

i prefer tags being strong but situational

rather than just weak

[static finch]

...foil tag

[night prism]

this way there are both reason to play the blind or to skip

[static finch]

well i like mods because they give incentives to skip

[night prism]

rn since tags are genrally worse than playng the blind, you never take them

[night prism]

with situational tags you won't skip most of the time, but sometimes you get the right one that saves your run

[night prism]

i said many

not all

[static finch]

if you could use the shop after skippin everyone would skip so

the problem is tipping the scales is just black and white

[night prism]

this is why i say situationa tags are the way

they are only useful sometimes

so you only skip sometimes

but you do

many games have similar mechanics

options to make sacrifices to help you in hard situations or when you need something specific

game design is not an easy job at all

it requires a lot of considerations to be made

[static finch]

something something DEVIL DEAL SUPREMACY

WE GAMBLE TILL WE RUN OUTTA HEARTS IN THIS HOUSE

[night prism]

this was the exact example i had in mind

[static finch]

i fucking LOVE the forgor, i fucking LOVE laz (normal one), I FUCKING LOVE LOST (normal) AND I FUCKING LOVE T JACOB

all because i can cheese deals

[night prism]

isaac is a very well designed game

[static finch]

isaac is art

[night prism]

or it was at least

it got a bit worse with time

design wise

but it's still fun

[static finch]

how so

[night prism]

but early on it really felt like each design choice had yeas of though put in it

[static finch]

i played the shit outta normal rebirth, tried flash and finished that one too (it was hell), and i played ab+

[night prism]

the game is still great

[static finch]

i mean, repentance was just antibirth +

[night prism]

but it feels it got bit less thoughtful about additions

it happens to many games though

first they are hand crafted masterpieces were everything has a purpose

[static finch]

but not grammar

[night prism]

then they keep adding stuff, maybe at a faster pace, so they get a bit less refined

[night prism]

just spelling

the grammar was right

[night prism]

sometimes this can be good though

games that start as small projects and become huge with time

[static finch]

ahem

VS

it's funny cause

[night prism]

but it's rarely done right

[static finch]

base game has like, 3 broken combos

then moonspell came around and half ot the weapons suck, the other half shreds

then foscari is just op shit through and through except party popper

[night prism]

balatro has the chance of becoming the worst example of this

but thunk is based

so it won't

[static finch]

emergency meeting weapons all suck other than pararnoaml scan which literally enables almost all weapons

operation guns had some half good half bad like moonspell

and then castlevania is stupid op

like, incredibly op

[night prism]

balatro is the type of game when you must be careful before adding anything

[static finch]

new dlc is just eh