Resurgence (WIP) - Primordial Arts

[night prism]

remove that

and add end at the end

[night prism]

why all the red lines?

did you remove something

?

[dusty river]

here's the whole joker

[night prism]

missing a comma

[dusty river]

ahhh

[night prism]

after end

before add to deck

so now just add remove_from_deck and do the other way around

subtract the value

[dusty river]

okey!

[night prism]

this will break with value manipulation

because if you increase the con_slot after getting the increase selling it will make you lose more slots

[dusty river]

wowee, I'm starting to understand more and more, I think, in like, 3 more jokers, I might be able to make a joker without help! :3

[dusty river]

I did notice this earlier when using a lever on a cryptid joker

one that gave joker slots

[night prism]

this is unavoidable rn, unless we want to manually check which values to target

my value manipulation fun can blacklist some vals

so you don't change them

[dusty river]

huh, interesting, I wonder how cryptid deals with this

[night prism]

lever uses this to store the original values and not change them

[night prism]

I think they just don't care

may be wrong though

[dusty river]

oh, lol

testing out the remove effect now

LMAO
I NEVER SET SUBTRACT

IT JUST GAVE ME ANOTHER SLOT WHEN SOLD LOL

[night prism]

lol

infinite slots

btw this also bugs with crimson heart

i don't know if you are familiar with the bean bug

but it's the same thing

[dusty river]

huh, so this is even a problem in base game in a way, interesting

[night prism]

actually this may not be bugged

because bean specifically bugs when decreasing hand size while debuffed

since it's debuffed the hand size does not go down

and you permanently keep it

[dusty river]

I never knew about this bug, lol

[night prism]

is one of the ways of getting naneinf

kinda

you can get more hand size for baron

but it's far from being enough for naneinf on it's own

also while looking at the code i found this useless lines lol

it check for telescope or observatory but does nothing then

[dusty river]

lmaoooo
where is this?

[night prism]

card.lua at line 1910

[dusty river]

lol

[night prism]

thunk sure did make some wacky mistakes

[dusty river]

well, bartender looks like they working now :3
should probs commit it hehe :3

[night prism]

great

[dusty river]

I made the Bartender joker as I wanted some more synergy with consumable stuff that existed, instantly thought of it when playing with andromeda

OH, btw, speaking of that

I thought of some balance changes for Andromeda, as it's a lil underpowered currently it feels like

I have it written down, and I think I can do most of it, as there isn't much changes, but I may need a lil help lol

(mostly the fact that I made it so it made them negative, and I'm not yet sure how to refrence the edition and add it to the created consumable)

[dusty river]

ok, I don't think I know how I'd do either effect lol

the only 2 changes I think I wanted to make were

still x25 sell value, but no longer x25 price
and, star cards created by andromeda being negative

[dusty river]

well, for now I have been working on ideas in the sheet lol

[dusty river]

Note for everyone checking the sheets: The new pink colored background's that some ideas have next to them represent that they have been put into the game already, if you make any changes or edits to a pink colored background, change it to green, which will be the color representing cards with new changes in the sheet that aren't present in-game (atm, you can see this green used on the joker Andromeda)

_
btw, if @night prism / @opaque oasis / @static finch want me to add more colors for more knowledge, u can ask at any point

so far, there is one more color that I thought of that might be wanted, tho I'm not sure if it's nessecary really, as only one idea currently applies
and that is a color for when an idea has been technically put in, but needs HEAVY changes, as it in-game is non-functional in some way
for refrence, the one that applies to this idea currently is Faustian edition

I'm going to bed now, see y'all tommorow

[static finch]

what'd I miss?

[static finch]

after this we gotta make a sun seed primordial

[dusty river]

i made a bartender joker and did some loc i think

[static finch]

it's good imo

[dusty river]

did it for some more synergy with consumable slots and such

[static finch]

yeah yeah

thatd be super good with big misser

[night prism]

@static finch railgun got her grip on coding jokers I think, now it's your turn

She did bartender with only little help

[static finch]

yes I am in school with classes I can't ignore rn so

[static finch]

good for her

[night prism]

Not saying rn

[static finch]

"now"

[night prism]

It was a abstract now

[static finch]

ah

well yes I can fuck around today after school

I suppose

[night prism]

Also tf you mean, you have been playing btd6 for 2 hours

[static finch]

actually, I shall be plagiarizing bartender's code for Johnathan & Charlotte

[night prism]

Almost 3 actually

[static finch]

yes

the problem is that it was on pause

because I played only half an hour cause a prof was missing

[night prism]

Real

[static finch]

time's misleading

[night prism]

Time rules us all

[static finch]

regardless, first chemistry then English with the most incapable southern old fuck they could find

I hate the guy

ugly, looks like a pedo, completely incompetent and can't even speak well

[night prism]

I HATE CHEMISTRY, I HATE IT SO MUCH

Also I genuinely speak better English than any English teacher I ever had

[static finch]

real

but not like I don't

[night prism]

But that's Sicily for u

[static finch]

me when Apulia sucks ass as much as Sicily at least

In terms of English-speaking population at least

[night prism]

For sure

[static finch]

well regardless

I shall suffer

soon enough

[dusty river]

good morning

am fully awake now, lol

@night prism how's the progress on paint btw? u said u started working on that right?

[night prism]

it was midnight when i said that, end this morning I've been busy

i'll work on them this afternoon

[dusty river]

ahh, okey, I understand now

[night prism]

I need to code a super simple thing for prism and then i'll work on it

[dusty river]

okey
btw, what do think bout the colored names thing I did for sheets, any more that'd be helpful?

[night prism]

for now i think what you did is fine

maybe more will be useful in the future

[dusty river]

understood 👍

[static finch]

true

[night prism]

i can start working on paints now

getting them to display a shader may be harder than epected though

Stickers can't show shaders by default

[dusty river]

I think I'm gonna add Tree(3) real quick, as it's insanely similar to Tree
however, I'm gonna need to know how to do hyperoperational mult first

[night prism]

I have no idea

[static finch]

huh

[night prism]

Does talisman support all of it?

[static finch]

well i should get to doing this

[night prism]

i only remember ^mult from talisman

[dusty river]

yes

it does, I've done it before, but I forgot how

you can see it in use in jen's almanac

[night prism]

eemult

eeemult

just this

[night prism]

i was not sure if jen coded it himself or it was from talisman

[static finch]

eeeee

[static finch]

very cool, bartender has all i need

i love stealing :3

[night prism]

you still need to code a few things

but, does -chips make sense?

if you put it first you are not losing much

and chips can't go below 0 anyway

[static finch]

@night prism

[static finch]

yes for the simple reason chips aren't that common

in vanilla anyway

[night prism]

why don't you remove stuff_minus and just subtract 4 from stuff?

so you can remove the if statement

[static finch]

what's one variable more to make it more intuitive

[night prism]

the if statement is superfluous though

[static finch]

no?

[night prism]

kinda

[static finch]

it'd add chips if it wasn't there

with less than 4 consumables

wouldn't it

because negative number of negative chip modifiers?

or am i overthinking this

[night prism]

yes

[static finch]

to what

[night prism]

but you could code it better

but leave it as it is

it works anyway

[static finch]

last time i wasted 2 hours on making it "better"

then you fucked it up for me

[night prism]

just one think i'd change though

[static finch]

i'm not saying you don't know better

more like it's unnecessary

if it ain't broken don't fix it

[night prism]

calculate stuff_minus before the if statement

[night prism]

and change if to if stuff_minus > 0 then

so you don't need to write 4 multiple times

[static finch]

i don't get why this is useful

[night prism]

since you will make it a variable

[night prism]

this makes the code more readable

not an issue rn

[static finch]

oh i get why

[night prism]

but keep it in mind for the future

[static finch]

yeah ok makes sense

?

[night prism]

this is just redundant

[static finch]

yes yes i get it

[night prism]

also

[static finch]

i got a super simplistic idea, tell me if this is stupid

1 joker

[night prism]

you can just cut stuff mins and make stuff start at -4

[static finch]

^1 mult

[static finch]

i guess?

[night prism]

the filler enthered the room

[static finch]

if something screws with it it could be very unpredictable though

[static finch]

no

because first of all motherboard

second of all, oil lamp

third of all, scalae

wait no i'm stupid not scalae

well the rest still stands

[static finch]

philosophical joker is fine but this isn't?

it'd be an uncommon

[night prism]

philosophical joker is fire

this is just "the filler" from cryptid

but a bit stronger

[static finch]

oh wait, i never saw that one

lemme google it

well no

it's not like that

first ^mult

[dusty river]

^1 mult is equal to x1 mult

[static finch]

second, it doesn't scale on it's own

[night prism]

but is scales better

[static finch]

if you change the value somehow it's super duper better

[night prism]

nor does the filler

[static finch]

wait i got confused b another similar thing i remember

which gaines x0.1 every time it triggered

nvm i'm stupid

well if we gotta make better jen's we must make everythiing ^mult

[dusty river]

" ^1.01 " maybe?
or what about " ^1 " but also " +1 Joker slot " to make up for the nothing

[static finch]

obv

[static finch]

the point is that it's already super broken if you change the value

giving a free joker slot too would be dumb

[night prism]

just make it ^^mult

[static finch]

philosphical joker is built around this and it does NOTHING

[night prism]

there are a lot of ^mult jokers

[dusty river]

yeah but, that's what makes philisophical joker fine, is the +joker slot

[static finch]

hmmm

broken 2?

hell yeah

[static finch]

ever tried beige deck

or glowing deck

[dusty river]

+joker slot makes it litterally never a DOWNSIDE to carry it

[night prism]

but it does nothing else

on it's own it does nothing

[dusty river]

because it carries itself

[night prism]

like this one

[static finch]

yes but it'd be so convenient to hold onto for when you DO find an augment/value altering thing

[night prism]

i guess

but this has higher potential

[static finch]

the point is to make it situationally super powerful

[night prism]

^^mult imo

^mult is very common

you can alredy get it on other jokers

[dusty river]

idk, think of it like this
lever resets at x2 value back to x0.5

so

[night prism]

if this was a vanilla+ mod then i would agree ^mult is enough

[dusty river]

you'd carry it to a MAXIMUM of ^2 mult, then it would go to ^0.5 and kill your run

[night prism]

but this stuff is gonna be playied with cryptid

[dusty river]

or you'd sell it

[static finch]

most definitely

[night prism]

so it must be stroger

cryptid already has many jokers that start at 1^mult

[static finch]

me when i personally would never rely on lever, ever

[night prism]

but they also scale on their own

[static finch]

it's just worse perishable imo

[static finch]

hello primus

[dusty river]

but like, that's one of only 2 augments and effects in genral from our mod that change value

and unless you're planning on hitting that shit with a motherboard-

[static finch]

don't worry i plan on making a cracked oil lamp variant tooo

i also planned on making a 0 joker

[dusty river]

what

[static finch]

which makes having exactly 0 chips a win condition

[night prism]

lol

broken with the other one

[dusty river]

I'm not feeling any of this tbh
u know how u said u'd never take levers? yeah, same with your ^1 joker

[night prism]

i really dislike this idea

if you get it you just win the run

since 0 never scales

[dusty river]

same, easy instant win, and hyperspecific conditions

[night prism]

your required score should always increase

[night prism]

you should always lose sooner or later in endless

[dusty river]

waaaaiiit, you just gave me an idea that might make us both happy, and I think it's hilarous

[static finch]

so?

[static finch]

hm

well then nevermind

actually thinking about it makes sense

[dusty river]

new rarity, which is filled with jokers like this, which start off by doing nothing
then, make them findable by a consumable which also does something else
the jokers are a joke.... almost, that is

[night prism]

the only alternative win effects that should be in the game are unreliable ones

so you can't rely on them to win

you also must score somehow

[static finch]

"too many rarities"

someone said

[night prism]

dunno

seams overkill

[static finch]

while having rpinters, vaulted, secret, and chaos joekrs

[static finch]

ULTRAKILL?

[dusty river]

I don't fucking care tbh lmao

[static finch]

me neither but someone complains

[dusty river]

say this to the guy who made a whole fucking rarity for printers lol

[static finch]

real

that's a whole 6 rarities

2 made for ONE joker

and we have too many?

[dusty river]

fucking Pedro rarity is hilarous

[static finch]

:) ass

so anyway, we only got primordial and artifact

[dusty river]

I love "My Friend Pedro" deserves so many sequels

[night prism]

Comrade better

[static finch]

real

commieflag

[dusty river]

we never fixed tree lol (or maybe we did and I just forgot to download the commit?)

how do I fix it?
thought I'd add it with the new Tree(3)

[static finch]

BREAKING NEWS EVERYONE

VAMPIRE SURVIVORS BETA JUST DROPPED

[dusty river]

@night prism I'm assuming I either need to add a new context or change one of the existing ones, right? for the end of round effect?

[dusty river]

OH?

[static finch]

it's a chicken stage

the new thing is a stupid fuckin chicken stage

[dusty river]

lmaoooo

[night prism]

yes, add a new one

[static finch]

and the song for it is unironically FIRE

[night prism]

look how faustian does it

[static finch]

it also works like the red room stage

killing chickens opens up stuff

[dusty river]

ok, I've done a bit here
Added Tree(3) + it's loc
Fixed both Tree and Tree(3)'s end of round effect

[static finch]

could you do loc for J&C?

[dusty river]

sure, but first I need to add my commit, then download the new version with your new joker

[static finch]

yeah yeah

[dusty river]

did I... did I never commit the bartender, lmao

[static finch]

...what?

[static finch]

i literally stole your code

how didn't you

[dusty river]

nvm lol

I dumb

[static finch]

...time to break this shit.

[night prism]

both in game

[static finch]

ooooooooo

[dusty river]

why are there 2 frisks in the file lol

did I fuck that up somehow, or has it been like that

[night prism]

Paints show shaders now

[dusty river]

you removed the name on the sheet somehow lmao

what was their name again? of the card?

[static finch]

jandc in the code

[dusty river]

thank you, I'll put the name in

[static finch]

oh my god

space dude got femmed

[opaque oasis]

i have too many rarities

and im not proud

[static finch]

skill issue we're gonna make more than you

[opaque oasis]

but im not going back

ok

also i have 7 rarities

jst saying

[static finch]

where's the 7th

[opaque oasis]

evolution

[night prism]

paints are very easy to code

i made so you just need to put the name of the shader and code the effect

everything else is automatic

[dusty river]

ooooo, sweet

[night prism]

all keys should start with "paint_"

if there's no shader yet just type shader = false

it will display foil as a placeholder

[static finch]

oh right

[opaque oasis]

i couldnt do this btw

[night prism]

so you can code some of them yourself easily

[night prism]

@static finch

you know

[static finch]

huh

yeah i'd guess

if they're just a sticker with an effect

i'll make some dw

[night prism]

when adding a paint put their key here

no prefix needed

[static finch]

k

[night prism]

for some reason they are not showing shaders anymore

i did not change anything

[opaque oasis]

i cursed you for being better than me

done btw

[dusty river]

Yayyy

[night prism]

Paints added

Red and blue paint already coded and localized

for now paints don't spawn naturally

will change this soon

[dusty river]

having some fun rn playing with the tree jokers
I used debug to get Tree, Tree(3), and Scalae
this stuff is insane hehe

tree3 is having a blast

should we use Auriko as a requirement u thinks?
that way we can make jokers give holographic planets and such?

[night prism]

i'm not familiar with that

[dusty river]

it's a mod which makes planets with editions do things, such as a foil mars making four of a kind gain an extra +50 chips permenantly

[night prism]

cool

but i don't think it should be a requirement

just make cross mod content

[dusty river]

okey 👍

[night prism]

just my opinion

[dusty river]

hmm, I'll think about this

also, @static finch what do u think bout this? Having another opinion as well might be nice here

[dusty river]

(you know, now that I'm learning more about balatro code, I wonder how tf Scalae works codewise, I assume it was hell to get working lol)

[night prism]

i wonder that too

never checked actually

[static finch]

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OH MY GOD

[night prism]

Just double scale btw

[static finch]

pardon me getting off topic

[static finch]

ehat exactly

[opaque oasis]

^this exactly

[dusty river]

you've played a ton of mods, was wondering bout your thoughts with using Auriko as a requirement, the mod that makes planets with editions matter more

[static finch]

oh

aurinko

is super duper buggy

i wouldn't put it as a requirement

[dusty river]

it is?

[static finch]

it is

[dusty river]

idk, I used to use it a lot, but only recently reinstalled it

[night prism]

i have no idea where they found the energy to code all of that

that function alone is more complex than all the 3 mods I've worked on put together

[static finch]

the memes push people to do insane things

[night prism]

this is absolutely true

i need some meme to give me motivation

[dusty river]

speaking of memes pushing people to do insane things, now that we have Tree and Tree(3), our first pair of jokers to make an unbound's requirement happen, how would we make that transformation work?

[night prism]

when you have a master in computer science but you use it to code memes in a poker roguelike

[night prism]

for once ask revo

he did something similar

[opaque oasis]

what

[night prism]

not that i can't do it, but i already did a lot

[static finch]

it's called based

[opaque oasis]

just destroy the card nd add another one

[static finch]

making something transform with 2 cards i guess

[night prism]

i coded everything except the jokers

[opaque oasis]

with 2 cards?

fuck

mine is buggy

[night prism]

or just transform the card

probably better

that's how prismatics work

[opaque oasis]

DHASGJJFVBASD IDK HOW

RAGHHHH

[night prism]

set_ability("card_key")

just this

[opaque oasis]

fuck my life

[night prism]

it transforms the card and preserves editions and stickers

[opaque oasis]

...

ok

cool

[night prism]

cool indeed

[opaque oasis]

very

kill me

[dusty river]

that's hilarous, if that's how sigma works now, you could rubber it and get infinite primordials

[night prism]

so i take that back, don't ask revo

[opaque oasis]

i suck

[night prism]

just copy paste the code from prismatics i guess

[opaque oasis]

end me

[night prism]

i made a lil function just for that

should just change the sound effect i think

maybe add a bit of particles

this makes me think i need to make a sound effect for gold foil yet

[opaque oasis]

end me

[night prism]

will do it right now

[opaque oasis]

ts is the most demotivating thing 💔

[static finch]

you see this is why i want to explode him sometimes

[night prism]

lol

[night prism]

you do?

[static finch]

nah not really

tho getting told "yeah i did it better than your dumbass" sure isn't fun

not in that way but meaning's the same

[night prism]

I did not mean to sound like that lol

[static finch]

you sure did

[night prism]

well, i'm dumb and incapable of understanding how i sound to others

but you are right

[night prism]

sorry Revo, love u <3

i genuinely think your mod is peak

so take that i guess

[opaque oasis]

Murphy asked for mods to play in #⚙・modding-general

im tryna slide in mine

😭

[opaque oasis]

npnp

[dusty river]

let's tell him to play vampirica, lmao

"hey, play our wip mod with no art and several misplaced features!"

lmao

[static finch]

based

[static finch]

"and probably broken code (least the one i made)"

[dusty river]

Gulag, would you mind helping me make some paint shaders?
I think it'd be a good way to start

[night prism]

Not doubting your skills, but i genuinely advice against doing shaders rn

they are very complex

and i'm not good at them

so unless you find someone with more experience don't touch them

[dusty river]

okey 😔 guess I'll have to wait on that one lol

[static finch]

what's so hype about paint anyway

[night prism]

i can make them, they should be easy

they should not take too much time

[static finch]

are they hard or easy

like what

[night prism]

and i can use this as practice for learnig to make more shaders

[night prism]

learning shaders in general is hard

[static finch]

I mean

[night prism]

if you knida know what you are doing just recolors should be easy

[static finch]

why say they're super difficult and then say they should be pretty easy

[static finch]

imagine if I didn't :3

[night prism]

but you need a lot of prior knowledge

[dusty river]

I do know a tiiiiiny bit

cuz u see

[static finch]

I don't

[dusty river]

I tried learning before, but, what happened was

[night prism]

i don't know much about shaders, i'm going by trial and error

so i can't explain what i'm doing

because i don't know

[static finch]

oh my god

literally me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/stickers/1237406379984031835.png

[dusty river]

I learned them but when I went to do it in-game, I learned that apparently the thing I was doing didn't work for shaders on jokers and stuff, and they were just, like, solid sprites

I made ONE shader I liked, and it didn't even work lol

cuz it wasn't made in a way that could overlay onto a joker

[static finch]

damn

rip

anyway, info for y'all

today I did practically nothing, ngl

tomorrow I'll get to making at least 2 jokers

[dusty river]

try making some loc for the jokers maybe

[static finch]

and I got after tomorrow free

[static finch]

I suck at graphic design

I just can't visualize those things

so I'd have to trial and error the descs for eternity

[night prism]

balatro uses glsl but a slightly different format

so you can't just copy paste them

[dusty river]

this right here is what I was using to learn
https://thebookofshaders.com/edit.php

[static finch]

thanks thunk(s)

[night prism]

i should learn glsl for godot too

[static finch]

so expect 4 jokers made for the end of this week (probably sketchy tho)

[dusty river]

I have 1 more joker I wanna make tonight I think (I know it's getting late for y'all)
I wanna try to make papyrus
now that we have paints in the game, I think it'd be nice to get a joker in that can make them appear

[static finch]

@night prism

?

[night prism]

i'm here

[night prism]

what does he do?

i'm getting the sheet

[dusty river]

he's on line 65 of OtherJonkers

[night prism]

love the flavor lol

anyway, it should be easy

blue paint is already coded

[static finch]

wdym with the "flavor"

[night prism]

the general theme

[static finch]

oh

still ultra blind

sorry

[night prism]

i actually missed that lol

[static finch]

imagine making like, 20 reference jokers and not getting this outta you once

boykisserSad~2

[night prism]

it's great

[static finch]

explode

[night prism]

paints have so much reference potential

[night prism]

i genuinely don't know what's going on

what did i do?

[static finch]

ignoring this

jk btw

still tho

my ego hurts

[dusty river]

nothing, they just mad you gave me praise and they didn't get none lmao

[night prism]

oh

[static finch]

zad

[night prism]

sorry

i added some of your ideas to my own mod

so this is fair i think

[static finch]

maybe but my ego demands to be better not equal

i yearn for influence

[dusty river]

anyways, how would I do this effect?
the 2 things I don't know how to do here are
1: Played hand card count detection
2: Applying of paints

[static finch]

applying an edition was made by gaybriel joker and hand stuff was made by pugnala

should be good

[night prism]

ANVA.set_paint(card, paint color) for adding paints

so just ANVA.set_paint(card, "blue") should suffice

[night prism]

card count is #G.play.cards

to trigger it before scoring you should use context.before

[dusty river]

I don't think we need any config vars here, right?

[night prism]

if you want the number of card to be modifiable

you can make that a var

[static finch]

btw i demand a double opinion

on both of these

[night prism]

i like :3

[static finch]

ikr bottom joker is cool :3

[dusty river]

hmm, I don't want it to be changed I think, as fractional "exactly X cards" is just sad lol

[night prism]

random bullshit may need a buff

[night prism]

true lol

[static finch]

it was supposed to be common

[night prism]

still

[static finch]

cause i noticed especially in revo's everything is a rare

and i don't wanna do that

hm, +3 mult with the same stuff is good?

[night prism]

in prism everything is uncommon

[static finch]

i like scaling

[static finch]

in our mod, everything is a COMRADE

[night prism]

true

[dusty river]

use the sin jokers as refrence in this kinda stuffs me thinks

[static finch]

the who?

oh

i get it

the suit jokers

[night prism]

I need a better communist emoji than the raised fist

[static finch]

commieflag

[dusty river]

Gluttonous joker, Lusty joker, etc

[static finch]

yes those are suit jokers not sin jokers

[dusty river]

they have always been the sin jokers to me

[night prism]

sadly can't use it as a reaction

[dusty river]

lust, wrath, gluttony, greed
all that's missing is, pride, sloth, and the one I forgot just now

[static finch]

yeah discord sucks

[static finch]

conquest?

no wait

[dusty river]

envy

it was envy

we have no envy joker
no pride joker
and no sloth joker
other than that tho, we have 4 of the sins, all represented by, what I like to call, the sin jokers

[static finch]

pride joker is in spectrum framework

jimbo gay

[night prism]

btw if we are lucky i and Revo may have got Murphy to play our mods

probably not though

[dusty river]

he should

[night prism]

indeed

[dusty river]

u made a good mod, gulag

[night prism]

he turned entropy down :(

[night prism]

thanks

btw all the As in my recent messages are copy pasted

[static finch]

damn

[static finch]

holy hell

[night prism]

my keyboard is so broken

[static finch]

well get a new one

[night prism]

i'm on a laptop

[night prism]

sad, i know

[static finch]

holy hell

condolences

is it a good laptop or a crappy one

[night prism]

they work again!!!

[static finch]

wowie?

[night prism]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[night prism]

pretty good one

i can get it fixed

i think?

it should not be to much of an issue right?

also no action game gaming for a while

[dusty river]

I think I'm close here

[static finch]

yowch

no mgr

[static finch]

misinterpreted, thank you

[night prism]

no wasd :(

[night prism]

for now it blues itself

card is the joker

also missing a =

== 1

[dusty river]

ahhh, lmao

told you, I always forget which is which lol

[night prism]

you also should add a tooltip for blue paint

look how i did it for the augment cards

same thing

[dusty river]

bhjdgbhgj omg
I'm back

discord just fell for a bit lmao

I got so bored I started working on art, lol
I know we wip rn lol

made a placeholder art for Unbound jokers and one for Primordial jokers
the unbound is the red one with the normal background
the primordial one is the one that looks like it's in hell lol

[static finch]

dark and fucked up tree

[night prism]

i'm having a glimpse into your dark reality

[dusty river]

unlike Tree, I'm not planning on the other 2 staying, lol, they just for placeholders
||I kinda want Tree(3) to be a 3d model, like, jimball style||

[dusty river]

anyway, hi gulag! I managed to get papyrus to the point where it didn't crash or anything like that, but it's still targeting the joker, and I'm not sure how to make it target the played card instead

[static finch]

funky

[dusty river]

||obviously, if we ever make a Tree(6), I'd love for it to appear 6d somehow, lmao||

[night prism]

Btw, i was making sound effects for prism and came up with this thing. This is not what i was trying to get but i like it

so if you want to use it instead, it's yours

[static finch]

oooo

[dusty river]

THANKU, hmm, I'm trying to think of what to use it for

[static finch]

well what could it be for?

[dusty river]

I think

[static finch]

oh i know

[dusty river]

we should use it for when an artifact appears

[static finch]

the world machine

wait yeah that's better

[night prism]

i was making it for an edition

[static finch]

figured

but hey

magick

anyway, they added a chicken

this update's great

tomorrow i'll play the new full ass dlc

in school

:3

[night prism]

real

[static finch]

heh

caring is for losers

[dusty river]

I feel like a lunatic, I've been playing the sound effect over and over to get a grasp of how it'd feel ingame lmao

[static finch]

we're in 2

so where's the moon lord at?

[dusty river]

lmaooo

hey, uhm, I think I'm actually still a bit lost on how to add commits
cuz, like, I've been going in and just, editing the files and copy pasting, but I've seen that u guys have the ability to upload multiple changed files at once and such
how do you do that?

I'm probably missing something crazy basic there, lol

[night prism]

have you setup git?

[dusty river]

I don't think I've done it completely lol, I got the file downloaded and everything, but I don't think I ever got farther than that lol

so I've downloaded it, but don't think I've even opened it yet lol

[static finch]

bruh

you gotta set it up in git then link it to vscode

[night prism]

also i keep coming up with cool sounds that have nothing to do with what i'm trying to get

[static finch]

can't listen 3:

should be sleeping

gotta wake up in 7 hours too

[dusty river]

cursed edition?

what do u make ur sounds in btw?

[night prism]

fl studio

[static finch]

musician's choice

[night prism]

using a few synths

[night prism]

most sounds effects are just made with synthesizers

[static finch]

I know

chiptune is a favorite of mine

go listen to chibi-tech

[night prism]

chiptune is fire

[static finch]

ikr

my favorite out of their whole library is this, which isn't even theirs https://youtu.be/JjgG3BnXSYU

[night prism]

this is pretty distant from og chiptune but still cool

[static finch]

I know

but the guy made stuff for JSAB and I'd argue he has what it takes

[night prism]

back in my day chiptune was made with just 4 audio channels

[static finch]

back in my day I didn't care ;3

[night prism]

and only two oscillator types

[night prism]

I still think it's insane that square waves are one of the most basic sounds you can make and yet they sound so cool

[static finch]

the human brain does not understand music on a mathematical level

it should be obvious that they're so useful

[night prism]

true

[static finch]

because they're simple

our brains like simple

incremental games wouldn't work if that weren't the case

[night prism]

this is not really true though

we loooove complex sounds

[night prism]

the sound the human voice is so complex

and by far our favorite

[static finch]

imagine if pop currently was drums and some 20yo schmuck singing

[static finch]

that's bias

and celebrity influence

and I don't like voices in my songs

not often anyway

if it doesn't fit, I don't want it

I prefer instrumental tracks

[night prism]

singing as been the main form of music for millennia

[static finch]

well millennia don't mean much to me

the church had power for millennia, why not give some to it again?

[night prism]

still, most instruments have super rich sounds

[static finch]

most of mine being electronic

purely

[night prism]

still

[static finch]

so uh I guess you have a point

I'm just not like that

I guess

regardless

your sounds good

[night prism]

square waves are still unique somehow

[static finch]

Minecraft is perfection

[night prism]

they are basic but have so much character

[static finch]

I like square

and cube

and the 5th dimensional equivalent

[night prism]

5d hypercube

[static finch]

and 6th dimensional equivalent

[night prism]

6d hypercube

[night prism]

the names are not that original

[static finch]

have noik

[static finch]

you don't say

well we all know the 4th dimensional cube is our beloved aperture science companion cube

[night prism]

i guess we got bored after 4 dimensions

[static finch]

we can't even get to experience more

so

[night prism]

tesseracts are so cool

i added hypercube to prism for a reason

[static finch]

because cool

yes

[night prism]

cool is cool

controversial i know

[static finch]

nah agreed

I need a postal dude joker

he cool

(literally me)

[night prism]

it destroys cards i guess

[static finch]

duh

what else does postal do?

remember to piss on his dad's grave

obviously

but that can't be a joker effect

[night prism]

my god there are so many jokers on the sheet

[static finch]

yeah I doubt evey single one of them will get in

[night prism]

yeah

[static finch]

unless we call this one grimoire just to ape Jen even more

[night prism]

unless we find another programmer

[static finch]

well this stuff will keep piling up

yeah

[night prism]

and we still need an artist

[static finch]

imo if it weren't for primers it'd be way quicker

like just one primer is 20 jokers

[dusty river]

primers... are like... the mod, tho
they're literally the first thing this mod ever concepted

[night prism]

even without that

[static finch]

I didn't say shoot 'em

I said they're a lotta stuff

[night prism]

we still did not code anything of them

[static finch]

not true

Charon and Andromeda

[night prism]

they are pretty important

[dusty river]

as well as doom itself, rev added that today

[static finch]

huh

[night prism]

but you still can't get them

[static finch]

kool

[night prism]

we have just the joker code

[dusty river]

you can, Sigma was added

I've even done it in runs, I thought

[static finch]

yeah

[night prism]

was it? i didn't know

[dusty river]

yup[

[static finch]

for a while now

[dusty river]

tho, it currently runs via destruction and not transformation, for some reason

[static finch]

Revo

[night prism]

how does it work?

[static finch]

if tarot is played

[night prism]

he's great

[static finch]

destroys sigma and spawns the corresponding card

[dusty river]

sigma?
you mean code-wise, or effect-wise?

[night prism]

effect

[dusty river]

when a tarot is used while sigma is in inventory, it transforms into a unique primordial joker based on the card
hence why I called them "Primers"

there's also gonna be one for the planets, one for the spectrals, and maayybe one for the augments

the augment one might be scrapped tbh, but if things go well with the other 3, that one can also be made

[static finch]

hm

makes sense

[night prism]

that would be 22 more jokers

[dusty river]

I know
I've been trying to learn how to code so that I can get all these things done lol, maybe even one day my skills will catch up to the speed my autism runs at lmao

also, we've been working exclusively on sigma atm, as we're aware that zeta and gamma would add a bunch more
I think honestly, as soon as we finish up Sigma, I can start work on art maybe, even just some shitty art to start with before we get something better

[night prism]

you are doing great imo

[static finch]

I don't see why waste your effort if it's temporary

[night prism]

does the last joker you coded work?

[static finch]

anyway, same thing with how to code

[night prism]

i think i got no updates on that

[static finch]

if I made up the logic in my head I'd be fat

[night prism]

what?

[static finch]

like

[dusty river]

I tried to ask you earlier, but when discord went down I tried to get it to work, but couldn't figure out how to make it paint the cards played instead of the joker

[static finch]

if I get used to it and know what goes where instinctively

it'll be so swift

but alas

[night prism]

you need to paint G.play.cards[1]

[static finch]

I still lack the necessary info

[night prism]

which is the frist played card

since you can only activate it with one card that should be enough

otherwise you can make a loop for all played cards

but if the number of cards can't be changed there's no need for that

[dusty river]

okey, thank you, it's working now :>

[night prism]

i give up with sound effecst for today

[dusty river]

which git do I run btw?
I have git bash, git gui, and git cmd

[night prism]

imma do the paint shaders real quick

[night prism]

you don't need to run it

open vs code

[dusty river]

ah, okey
I'm in vs code

[night prism]

on the left, go to the source control tab

what does it show?

[dusty river]

I think... I think I did the thing?
It asked for git's folder, and I gave it and, I can show a pic of what the page says now

sorry if I wasn't supposed to do that, I got excited

[night prism]

lol

[night prism]

restart vs code

and on the opening window

clone git repository

[dusty river]

ok, I'll click that

[static finch]

well anyway I'll go to sleep people

i got 6 hours of sleep best case scenario

[night prism]

gn

[dusty river]

gn!

[static finch]

to ya :3

[dusty river]

I'm assuming I gotta put this in the box that shows up?
https://github.com/Mil0Meg4/Aneyh-Vampirica

[static finch]

what

[night prism]

yes

[night prism]

wrong message

[static finch]

oh wait was that accidental

yeah nvm

[dusty river]

I use the folder inside the balatro mods folder to clone into?

[night prism]

clone to mods directly

it makes a folder itself

[dusty river]

ok, now it's asking if I wanna open it or add it to workspace

[night prism]

you can make a workspace if you want

otherwise just open the folder

[dusty river]

ok, I've done it

[night prism]

now this should show up in source control

you can commit from here, but also pull down our commits

the three arrows next to graph

the ones pointing down let you pull down the changes

so you don't need to download the thing anymore

[dusty river]

what is this?

[night prism]

i think it's asking you if you want it to automatically update the repo?

[dusty river]

ahh, neat

[night prism]

you still need to pull down though

this just fetches

which means you will see the changes but they will not be downloaded

i'm assuming

never used that feature

[dusty river]

so, what's the difference between fetch and pull here?
I think "pulling a commit" is to, like, apply it, right? apply new changes and such from that version?

I'm a lil confused here, I think, lol

[night prism]

fetch will show all the changes, but now apply them

pull applies them

[night prism]

this lets you compare the new commits easily

[dusty river]

ahh ok

[night prism]

red paint

[dusty river]

OOOOO

THAT LOOKS AWESOME

[night prism]

maybe a bit to dark

[dusty river]

yeah, tho, I might save it if I were you, as there is supposed to be a "Dark Red" and "Light Red"

[night prism]

true

then i'm committing like this

to save the changes

light red i guess

[dusty river]

to me, it loooks like the "dark red" was kinda like the left color here, and the "light red" is kinda like the color on the right, I used my awesome brain to find somethin inbetween

awesome joker idea: Gradient Card
lmao

[dusty river]

we've got some real cool stuff going on here hehe

these all look awesome lol abnskf

[night prism]

i think this is fine for noraml red

[dusty river]

yeah
and I mean, hey, this is all stuff we can tweak later if needed (Tweak? VAMPIRICA REFRENCE?)

[night prism]

yeah, this is all just one variable

also after we make one all the other ones will be very easy

just change the color

have you committed papyrus yet?

[dusty river]

OOO

also yes

[night prism]

then i'm tryng blue paint

for some reason painted cards lose their sprite

will fix tomorrow

i'm closing for today

gn chat

[dusty river]

gn!

see you tommorow! :3

[dusty river]

there are only 5 SIGMA jokers left un-concepted

[dusty river]

what do we think of the new effect here?

reminder of what rubber does

[dusty river]

added another augment card to the sheet

gn everyone

[static finch]

something something nova drift?

[night prism]

@static finch lol

[static finch]

it's burning

yet nowhere

also,

[static finch]

so what do you think of the tarots (in theory should be darkanas but eh)

[night prism]

i think this is broken

[static finch]

i did not make that

Clueless~1

i was asking about my tarots

[night prism]

like, double wheel of fortune without random chance

[night prism]

wait a sec

i did not read them

[static finch]

thanks huh :3

[night prism]

permafrost should probably be 250 chips

or 300

chips are worth x5/x6 times mult

[static finch]

okay so the concept is that they're rare

[night prism]

so if magmatic if 50 mult permafrost should be x5 that

[static finch]

so they should be powerful

aka, i'd buff the mult not nerf the chips

[night prism]

not a power thing

[night prism]

same to me

100 mult

[static finch]

yep

precisely

also obviously the 2 enhancements should not be in packs

i should write that

[night prism]

i'm struggling making paints not look broken on playable cards

[static finch]

death~1

[night prism]

easily done

[static finch]

yeah

[night prism]

we won

now i need editions to show too

[static finch]

WOOOOO

[dusty river]

good nmorning everyone

my left arm hurts lol, so I'm gonna be typing with my right exclusively today
might impair my typing/coding

[static finch]

i could make a bad joke here

but i shall abstain

[night prism]

sadly i'm pretty sure most shaders can't be stacked

[static finch]

zad

[night prism]

foil forks, but all the other ones don't

so no way of making paints also show the edition i think

[dusty river]

awww

[night prism]

someone with good shaders knowledge may be able to do it

the fact that foil does means that it's possible

actually, lemme check something

ok, foil is fully stackable

let me look how the code does it

[night prism]

we won again

[dusty river]

YIPPEE

[night prism]

though we need to make the paints a bit softer for the edition to be visible

[dusty river]

mmhm

[night prism]

i think the ones in the picture look fine

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-stop-winning-lets-go-gambling-gif-7706745854605433240

[dusty river]

was in the bath, what I miss? lol

[night prism]

nothing

[dusty river]

ogh
okey

I should probs make some more jokers today, hehe
where to start where to start

[night prism]

i saw you reworked motherboard

i like it but i would make just one little change

[dusty river]

what change is that?

[night prism]

"Select 2 Jokers, the one to the Left has it's values set to 0, and the other has it's set to 1"

Other instead of one on the right

so you can use it on only one joker

i think forcing you to always target two may be a bit limiting

"Select up to 2 Jokers, the one to the Left has it's values set to 0, and the other has it's set to 1"

dunno the best wording

[dusty river]

ahh
I see, hmm, well, my thought process was that it would require you sacrifice a joker almost, in most situations, hence why I worded it "Select 2 jokers" and not "Up to 2 jokers"
but I think it could work the other way too, it's only a small change anyway, not sure how much impact it would have and it'd be nice I think, and besides, 0 is the less useful number to set to anyways

so yeah, I think you're right here

[night prism]

i know it's small

but since we must code it this is relevant

it changes the code quite aa bit

[dusty river]

ahh, ok
that makes sense
I'm all for the change

I already changed it in the sheet in fact

[night prism]

we may swap the value though

so if only one joker is selected it sets the values to 1

instead of 0

seams more useful this way, but i'm not sure

[dusty river]

hmm, maybe
we can always switch em up later, right?

[night prism]

yes

pretty easy to do

[dusty river]

okey, I think, then, we'll keep the numbers as is for now (0 then 1) and if it's too underpowered or underutilized then we can swap em

[night prism]

great

[night prism]

one question about hyperoperators in talisman, don't know if you have the answer

^ is equivalent to up arrow notation, right?