Resurgence (WIP) - Primordial Arts

[static finch]

i mean it is a 5x multiplier

[opaque oasis]

i released going bananas 3

im back here

[static finch]

hell yeah

[dusty river]

basically, playing cards in held hand, and in deck, that are faustian, have edition trigger at end of round

but, like, I'd wanna shrink that text down I think lol, something more simple

but still explains the effect properly

you know?

[opaque oasis]

lemme pull the latest commit rq

did u commit this

[static finch]

just removed it

[opaque oasis]

why

[static finch]

it's useless

gulag fixed it

[opaque oasis]

no im saying

did you commit the latest version of the edition

[static finch]

wdym

oh you mean does it work in latest commit?

yes

[opaque oasis]

this is the latest commit

[static finch]

recheck

[opaque oasis]

i jst pulled

[static finch]

i did it the exact second you asked

[opaque oasis]

ae

ok it

is correct

[night prism]

can i just steal the whole cryptid thing?

[static finch]

wdym

also i'd say who cares :3

[night prism]

because i'm struggling with this

for now i'm stealing

we will change it in the future

maybe

for now just get it working

[static finch]

you talkin to yourself

is this self-motivation

[night prism]

yes

[static finch]

eh fair enough

i gotta go for 15 mins or so then have dinner

doubt i'll be needed anyway

[night prism]

don't doubt yourself

[static finch]

i doubt you

who aren't faithful in me

[night prism]

i am

that's why i said that

i believe you can become good at this

[static finch]

omfg

okay so the joke was that it meant what i said

[night prism]

also later you need to fix some thing in the repo

[static finch]

and then tried to spin it on you

[static finch]

uh huh sure

baibai for now :3

[night prism]

your jokes suck <3

[static finch]

i suck in general :3

[night prism]

true

[static finch]

you got what i mean or

[night prism]

yes i did

also just realized the cryptid function does not work for this effect

i need to come with something myself

[static finch]

come up*

[night prism]

i forgot it

i do not need to come rn

[static finch]

occasionally is fine

[night prism]

i'm going insane

balatro does not let you select more than on joker at a time

[dusty river]

really?

[night prism]

i have no idea how cryptid does it

[night prism]

yes

[dusty river]

I must have mod that lets me, hmm

[night prism]

cryptid

i'm looking trough the code to find were it is

but there's a lot of code

look who i found while searching for help @dusty river

[dusty river]

oh hey!

[night prism]

you texted a lot in the modding-dev channel i see

[dusty river]

yeah lol, lots of me trying to get simple effects working lol

[static finch]

I got personal living documentation so

better

[night prism]

how the hell as no one asked for this before

many mods add this feature

[static finch]

what precisely

[night prism]

selecting more than one joker

[static finch]

oh

well ask then

idk

[night prism]

i guess that's the only way

the cryptid code is so messy

[static finch]

anyway, info

for anyone tomorrow

I'll only be making a single joker

because I got an English course thingy from 2:30 to 5:30 worst case scenario

and even if I could do it in school, I'd argue what I made in it today didn't turn out well at all

[night prism]

your precious contribution will be missed

do something now instead

[static finch]

I would but I also gotta shower

and am still eating

also,is that even serious

[night prism]

fair

[night prism]

also fair

[night prism]

yes

[static finch]

I mean it is 20 mins for a shower even with long hair

so it should be fast

relatively so

I got an hour best case

so anyway, what do you plan on making me code

[night prism]

i mean

this is not my mod

so ask our local hyena friend

[dusty river]

Tree, Discord, and Frisk all have pretty simple effects I think, if you want something easier

idk, hmm, want me to roll some dice on it? lol

ahh, what about the Other gabriel? I think we needa make Judge of Hell at some point soon, cuz we have the form he turns into

[static finch]

it is mine and I was asking for a tip

[static finch]

yeah

[dusty river]

I am a Hyena and you are a house cat, I beat you in rank here

lol

[night prism]

what rank is my human-bird thingy?

[static finch]

you don't count all the people I command

[static finch]

furry

[dusty river]

what is that from btw, I can't tell well from the pic lol

[night prism]

so is cat and hyena

[night prism]

Hieronymus Bosch painting

[static finch]

yes but a cat commands people, a hyena is alone in the wild and a bird human thing is just a person I guess

[dusty river]

ahh

[dusty river]

ALone? ALONE? DO YOU KNOW NOTHING OF HYENAS?

[night prism]

hyenas are like, the most representative pack animal

[static finch]

I am saying it purely as a derogatory explanation

mf

[dusty river]

you are right in one way, we do not command
we are a UNIT
a FAMILY

[static finch]

doesn't matter

[dusty river]

we hold RESPECT

[static finch]

okay let's see if said humans get guns

how your nice little pack tactics work

[dusty river]

lets see if you can hold one either with ur fucking mittens

[night prism]

you a cat

no guns for u

i have arms though

[static finch]

if those hyenas get mad at me the hoomans I enslave will defend me

[night prism]

i wont

i like hyenas

i also like cats tbf

[static finch]

no matter, sniping time

[dusty river]

also, I is on the other side of the world, I don't think you can lmao
we is stuck at stalemate here unless one of us has missles lol

or a boat or plane I guess, but that'd take time

anyways

[static finch]

if I was the cat of the president-

[dusty river]

gaberiel

[static finch]

uh I think teco should make that because to be frank I got 0 IDEA on how to make it

[dusty river]

mhh

well, I do have the others I mentioned there too for simple ones (at least, I think they are)

[static finch]

imagine if they weren't

I wasted 2 hours on a stupid edition

[dusty river]

lol

I think this one would be the MOST simple of the 3

[static finch]

what's that from even

[dusty river]

it's just.. a tree
lol

[static finch]

I dunno there's so many iconic trees

whispy woods

for example

or that one tree in new leaf

[dusty river]

I made it like 3 seconds ago for another joker effect actually

lol

[static finch]

or those STUPID FUCKING SWORD AND SHIELD TEXTURES

god I hate gamefreak

or you could also reference Minecraft's big trees

[dusty river]

if u don't wanna do Tree u also have Discord, that seems pretty simple

[static finch]

yeah yeah i can do tree rn i think

i gotta wait to shower

[dusty river]

ahh okey

[night prism]

you know how to do end of round effects now

so you should be fine

[static finch]

well

i think it's not the same thing at all tbh

why the hell is this inaccessible from the smods wiki

this should be the thing i'm looking for to add mult, no?

[night prism]

yeah

just type card.ability.mult += card.ability.increase

add these values to config obviously

[static finch]

should i do it like the right one

[night prism]

@dusty river for now i'm stopping to try to code motherboard

i've struggled for hours

[dusty river]

I understand <3

[static finch]

no worries i feel you

on an exponentially lesser scale

[night prism]

what are those brackets lol

all the configs inside the same brackets

so yeah

[static finch]

wait what

[night prism]

like the right one

[dusty river]

You want something easier to work with for now? We do still need the 1st form Gabriel joker, if you want

[static finch]

oh god i saw i wrong

why am i like thiiiis

[night prism]

i also can set up some of the basic mechanics

like the consumables

since those would be the most important things to get working

you tell me

[static finch]

why does it still error

[dusty river]

ok
If you wanna try with augments still, Rubber is probably the easiest, tho, it does require Augmentation to be a thing, which would be kinda like a sticker, or maybe just be a sticker, idk lol

[static finch]

the stupidest thing is that it works by just coyping it from there

[dusty river]

Rubber makes a Single joker of your choice, have stickers removed and makes it replace itself on destruction

(if we make the augmentations into stickers instead of their own thing do note we needa swap "remove all stickers" with "remove all non-augment stickers")

[night prism]

change the values and you should be done

[static finch]

just mkae them invisible and make it seem like invisible stickers only in the code

[night prism]

also, are you doing loc_vars?

[opaque oasis]

what'd i miss

[static finch]

nothing much

[static finch]

i uh

i didn't get a grip on that

but i should if i understand correctly

[night prism]

I gave up on value manipultion

[static finch]

to make it show current mult

[opaque oasis]

damn

was it that bad

[night prism]

yeah

[opaque oasis]

damn.

[night prism]

look how it works on other jokers

it's pretty simple

just return all the config you want to be in localization

[static finch]

...i don't get it :3

is it just this

i doubt it

i mean excluding loc_vars obv

[night prism]

you need to code the mult increese

also the normal mult too

[night prism]

In context.joker_main you need to return the mult

[static finch]

uh huh

[night prism]

while in context.end_of_round you need to increase the mult

look at hot air balloon from prism

it's essentially the same thing

but easier

[night prism]

i can try to get augmentation to work

wish me luck i guess

[dusty river]

good luck ! <3

[static finch]

like this?

[static finch]

certainly will

[dusty river]

it'll be nice when we finally have augments and paints in, even if it's only 1 of each, cuz then we can have the ability to work on the jokers that refrence them

[night prism]

the second time you don't need to return

[static finch]

oh okie

should i?

[night prism]

instead of mult it must say anv.mult

[static finch]

okay 2

okay

3

[night prism]

it will work

[static finch]

nice

i gotta shower

do i commit beforehand or

[night prism]

just indent the last 4 lines one time

[night prism]

sure

[static finch]

here this should be good

[night prism]

you did not do what i said but don't worry

commit and i'll fix it

and test it to see if it works

[static finch]

whuh

[static finch]

thanksies :3

also look at the commit note

[night prism]

i will

[static finch]

gentlemen and gurl,

I come to you with new ideas

which I will be writing down shortly

[night prism]

Why don't you give me ideas instead, there's not been any darkside progress today

[dusty river]

I can offer some if u want, what about a Yggdrasill prismatic joker? the tree of life?

[night prism]

I spent so much time fixing stuff with prism and then with that damn motherboard

[night prism]

cool actually

What would it do though?

[dusty river]

I'm imagining something reminicant to a couple tarot cards or something, tho I gotta go rq, my girlfriend needs me hehe :3

[static finch]

it was pretty balanced tarots

so wouldn't fit

[static finch]

boykissereyebrow

[static finch]

buff the shit outta hearts?

tree of life n all

[night prism]

i do like hearts

i was thinking on some hearts stuff for romantic warrior too

will come up with comething

[static finch]

wasn't that balanced

[night prism]

yes

for now i'm struggling coding the gold foil edition

because smods is a bit weird

[static finch]

what do you think?

(this is a certified ye olde 1.7 modded moment)

[night prism]

i think i got it working but i fear it will break sooner or later

[static finch]

in that case ask for my help

[night prism]

cool

[static finch]

so i can break it immediately

and save your the paranoia

[night prism]

true

[static finch]

:3

[static finch]

reference to this

[night prism]

i want it to work well since it's not from darkside

[night prism]

like it

i fear what the art will be

[static finch]

fair enough

[static finch]

probably the avaritia star

or a knockoff of it anyway

[night prism]

talking about art, we need to find someone

[static finch]

you

nah jk

[night prism]

you should rename it to furry of the cosmos

[static finch]

all my reference jokers are good to go as i can literally rip assets and have an excuse

[static finch]

HA. HA. HA.

KILL THYSELF

the name is a reference to it's ingame description

[night prism]

i found it funny

[static finch]

goes like "the fury of the cosmos, in the palm of your hand"

[night prism]

yeah i know

[static finch]

well anyway

as i said some time ago

i plan on making a little toggle

to turn every single thing into a shitpost

like, i'd make all the arcana primers stupid vampire survivors references

and add memes to the descriptions of jokers

and make gabriel gay

(i mean he is already but moreso)

obviously it would be all purely visual

[night prism]

btw if you have a second

[static finch]

i dunno how much time i got

but a second is 10 minutes

compared to your mod dev speed

[night prism]

true

anyway, go in the repo settings and add a description

also remove the packages tab

we don't need those

[static finch]

my incredible 120mbs here aren't even opening the page

[night prism]

also funny that 30% of the code is just the divine shader

It was 50% yesterday

[static finch]

bruv

[static finch]

how do i do that

what's it even for

[night prism]

change this tab

add an about thing and remove the packages

[static finch]

i mean remove packages

[night prism]

no real reason it just annoys me seeing it there

[static finch]

I DON'T KNOW HOW

[night prism]

i'm pretty autistic about this kind of stuff

[night prism]

wait a sec

[static finch]

everyone is a little neurodivergent

i am very neurodivergent but too blind to complain about things i literally never saw ever

[night prism]

i had no time to add goku

[static finch]

how queer

a circle without goku is like the church without nepotism

what do i type in the desc

[night prism]

true

dunno

[static finch]

great

[night prism]

something informtive i guess

[static finch]

i shouldn't

[night prism]

great

[static finch]

but the body is willing

here go read

[night prism]

we don't have a website to add

so this should be fine

[static finch]

yeah i suppose

we got no cool ass art and stolen assets to put on there

Clueless~1

[night prism]

as i said i'll make one joker

[static finch]

you already did one shader too

[night prism]

there are so many people in https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1153815324643299458 that don't know how to kode that want to make mod

go get one of them

[night prism]

not like most people here can code either

[static finch]

FUCK YOUUUU

[night prism]

but still better than nothing

[night prism]

you re learning fast

[static finch]

so i just gotta use my autism powers to convince some artists to join this sinking ship? (i blew a hole in it)

[night prism]

probably

[static finch]

woo

guess that's a project for not tomorrow cause i can't slack off easy

[night prism]

unless you wanna learn to draw

[static finch]

i LITERALLY can't see fucking commas

i can't even write in cursive

ffs

[night prism]

i can't either

[dusty river]

I can do some art, not much good tho

[static finch]

huh

expected you to have doctor levels of writing skill

[dusty river]

NOT LIKE THAT BTW
LMAO

[static finch]

the ancient blazing manuscripts

[static finch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1237209126078251049/1358821024086495544/togif.gif

i should get girlkisser in my emojis too

[night prism]

i remember in high school people made fun of me because i was the best one in art class but my handwriting was shit

[static finch]

so i can torture lesbians

[static finch]

i have my laptop in class

so uh

skill issue i guess

[night prism]

what does this have to do with anything?

[static finch]

i don't need to write at all

:3

[night prism]

fair

[night prism]

have you tried the other "jen's if it was good" mod yet?

[static finch]

i playtested it today

:3

'tis great

[night prism]

i need to try it

[static finch]

real

you need a very specific set of mod versions tho

all experimental and probably pretty explosive

[static finch]

@dusty river

what do you think

[night prism]

that's the way i like it

[dusty river]

I dislike instant win effects lol

[static finch]

it's occasional

and gaming chair is my only favorite of jen's jokers lolz

[night prism]

well, soon you will have another mod to playtest

[static finch]

heh.

hehehe

[dusty river]

also, it's crossmod content dont forget, as cryptid's code cards are, well, cryptids

[static finch]

more broken good :3

[static finch]

yes yes

i know

ideally it'd also have an unbound form which creates inverse codes and bumps up the instawin chances

but i expect it to sit in the sheet for a long ass time

[dusty river]

also, I don't even remember the effect of gaming chair that well, but I disliked it

[static finch]

60% chance to instawin

i think

[dusty river]

I just really don't like instawin lol

[night prism]

let me know when you want to have that little lesson @static finch @dusty river

i will try to be informative

[dusty river]

there's much more interesting ways to do similar things, such as my banhammer joker

[dusty river]

I am ready me thinks

what about u milo?

[static finch]

yaya

[static finch]

it's 11:20 pm

and I don't have my PC

anymore

[night prism]

He probably wants to sleep now

[static finch]

I mean I do but I can't use it

[static finch]

no I wanna blabber on

[dusty river]

ahh, so not rn I guess lol

[static finch]

without doing anything

[opaque oasis]

i was gonna say no goku

then i saw this

[static finch]

bruh

[static finch]

and also talk to my bf

[night prism]

I will download a goku png for the future

[static finch]

Goku.png joker

scheduled

[night prism]

Why's everyone here so gay?

[static finch]

do you know why she does that

[dusty river]

everyone who plays balatro is gay

[static finch]

do you even know who she is

[static finch]

nice

[night prism]

Is revo straight at least?

[static finch]

you're the odd one out

[dusty river]

everyone, no exceptions

[static finch]

I dunno he gives me ace vibes

[night prism]

Me gay?

[static finch]

yes

you must be

[night prism]

True true

[static finch]

you made the trans edition

[dusty river]

go in the gay water, the gay water that makes you gay, go in

[opaque oasis]

yes

im straight

[static finch]

oh fuck you

[night prism]

Let's go

[static finch]

let go

Sierra Madre

new Vegas

good.

[dusty river]

gulag is bi
revo is pan
I'm calling it here

[opaque oasis]

im straight

[night prism]

The you milo are the only one that does not like women here

Skill issue I guess

[static finch]

I like everyone

except this annoying hyena here

[night prism]

Based

[dusty river]

so we all like women, horay

[static finch]

if I had to get probed for alien tech I wouldn't bat an eye

[night prism]

Then you still are the only one that likes man

[static finch]

heh.

[night prism]

Still the odd one out one way or the other

[static finch]

unique as always

[dusty river]

actually, I aaaam a lil bi

just a little tho

[static finch]

HAHAHAAAA

GET DISPROVEN

YE FOOL

[night prism]

Lol

Everyone is some degree of bi I think

The percentage matters

[static finch]

but they repress it

wait

[dusty river]

BI BI
BI
I TOLD YOU ALL

[static finch]

that's closet news station

here for ya

[static finch]

"everyone is a little trans" is the timeless classic

[opaque oasis]

damn

[night prism]

I'm anthropological right

[static finch]

"everyone is a little bi" is the second following statement

[static finch]

sure sure whatever you say my guy

[night prism]

That's different though

[dusty river]

revo, are you pan, I need to know if I'm a fortune teller, so look real deep into yourself here

[opaque oasis]

im straight asf

[dusty river]

even just a little pan

[opaque oasis]

no

[static finch]

you have boykisser r34 in your history

[night prism]

What percentage?

[static finch]

I am sure

[dusty river]

like a skillet mabye

[opaque oasis]

i didnt know what boykisser was until i started modding in this server

[static finch]

good, let your straightness subside

gently

[dusty river]

you like femboys don't you, you think it's an exception, don't you?

[static finch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1180264986916962405.gif?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[opaque oasis]

we dont talk about femboys

[static finch]

we all do, no?

I mean I like myself

for now

[night prism]

This is all an attempt by the alphabet mafia to get us @opaque oasis

[static finch]

YOU'RE RIVALS

[night prism]

Fly you fool

[static finch]

our rivals

[static finch]

fly where

[opaque oasis]

i mean thats the joke part of the things

[night prism]

Dunno

[opaque oasis]

im really straight

jst sayin

dont confuse me

[static finch]

eh dw

[dusty river]

you are the newest recruits, not victims
our only victims are facists

[night prism]

So am i

[static finch]

porco rosso anyone?

[opaque oasis]

im trynamake sure cuz i think this will go to wierd places

so i will dissapear for now

[night prism]

Goated movie

[static finch]

ah dw if you doubt yourself time will wear you down

[static finch]

ikr

Nausicaa was the best one though

imo

nuclear bombs and badass gurl

all I have to say

[night prism]

It's a great one yeah

[dusty river]

look, listen, I've learned this the hard way myself, the more addiment you are that you're a "100% straight man" the less likely it is true lol

[static finch]

you either go with the flow or try to swim against the current

[night prism]

That's why I'm only 89%

[static finch]

gayass

[dusty river]

yeah, and that makes you bi, you know?
like, misconception, but, bi aint 50/50

[night prism]

This can't go both ways

[static finch]

yeah

I know

but does Revo

[opaque oasis]

you should've left when you had the chance

goodnight chat

[static finch]

bruh

[night prism]

So both if I'm 100% and if I'm not I'm still gay?

[static finch]

your ass is too afraid to see the light, printer boy

[dusty river]

I'm bi, just call myself a lesbian cuz it gets the straight boys away, cuz I've got that 98/2 type of bi in me lol

[night prism]

Is there a reality in which I'm straight?

[static finch]

arguable

mmmm parallel universes joker

more ideas for me

anyway @dusty river tell me

do you know who oracle is

[night prism]

Still waiting for an answer

[static finch]

pretty much

unless it's like 1% or something I suppose

[dusty river]

I... hmm, there's multiple possible answers here, dc oracle?

[static finch]

you fool I am talking about my favorite girlfailure

[dusty river]

people tend to use "Gay" as a catch-all for just any queer people, so, bi is a type of gay here

[static finch]

truth

keep spitting fax

[night prism]

This is how I used it too

In that sentence

[static finch]

well it's how everyone uses it

pretty much

[night prism]

Gay is anything not cishet to me

[static finch]

truth 2

so you are gay

as such I win

[dusty river]

sorry, I just to much autism to understand what u meant originally lol

[static finch]

bruv

[night prism]

Also if you cishet but a pussy you still gay

[static finch]

HAHAHAAAAA

this is pure fire

if I ever learn how to i will put that in opticus' description when both mods are installed

[night prism]

That's gay(derogatory) though

Totally different

You are gay(cool and based)

[static finch]

you plural?

[night prism]

Yes

[static finch]

nice thanks :3

[night prism]

I did not say thou did I?

[static finch]

do not

dod

again

[dusty river]

that's kinda, uhm, like,...
idk, I aint the type to use gay as an insult

[static finch]

it makes me think of that super cringe "doode" pronunciation and I just die inside every time

[static finch]

the cishets appropriate everything

[night prism]

I'm joking don't worry

[static finch]

our ruin is ever present

[static finch]

some people don't

[dusty river]

okey, autism's hard to tell I guess... maybe... idk lol

[night prism]

I know

[static finch]

well gulag is a good person

would've been flabbergasted if he wasn't joking

tbh

[night prism]

Thank you

I like being good

[static finch]

you said my code sucks (rightfully but still)

you are not good

you'ee yang

omg ying yang joker

[night prism]

I'm only 89% good

[static finch]

one more for the pile

[static finch]

you mean, 11%

[night prism]

I have twin

Which as a Ying yang in it

[static finch]

whuh

[dusty river]

gotta be honest here, dont like the instant win effects nor the inverted omega/alpha

instant win effects just aren't fun to me, if you're able to achieve it, you can just never lose, easily, go to ante 999,999 ^ 17 and still be fine without even needing any other jokers, you can just sell them and go on with a single joker doing the same thing till the end of time

inverted omega/alpha, are just kinda, idk, like, unessesary to me? It's kinda the whole point of omega and alpha that they exist as boosted suits anyway, we don't need a double boosted suit, unless we also want a rarity above primordial that they belong to

_
sorry if that was rude or something, that was just building in me lol

[static finch]

fair enough but did you read the little clause on the insta win?

also, you know why? you lack context I'm afraid

in regards to the inverted Greek symbols I suppose they aren't useful anymore if we turn them into special enhancements, true

[dusty river]

I mean, I didn't just mean for the one joker, there's multiple, and even if they reference something or whatever, they've got issues

[night prism]

I think instant wins are a bit boring because balatro is all bout big numbers

[dusty river]

yeah, this

[night prism]

I don't care about winning

I want a big score

[static finch]

where are the multiple insta wins

[dusty river]

also, even beforehand

[dusty river]

Niko and Oracle, at least

[static finch]

right, true but but Niko is a secret

I think if I removed that from oracle it'd be fine, yeah

[dusty river]

I think the fact that effect is hidden is actually worse than if it wasn't

think about it

your in a boss blind, finally got your first flush five and

[static finch]

I am not mark

[dusty river]

it doubles the fucking boss blind

[static finch]

hmm

y'know what I'm thinking

best of both worlds

I still think a toggle would work wonders for this

if someone wants those potentially enabled, bam

and it would be disabled by default obv

[dusty river]

it just... isn't fun to me, I don't know what you find appealing about this sort of effect lol

I just don't get it lol

[static finch]

I care about winning, and stuff like the entropic stake isn't winnable by normal scoring very easily

I play a run to win not to break endless mode

but that's the minority apparently

so as I was saying

[dusty river]

...

[static finch]

default has none of that shit

and then I get my own little things in my own little config

[dusty river]

entropic doesn't even exist in ours yet, and even so, instant win isn't how you get to any of that

[static finch]

I mean from another mod

go play entropy it's really cool

really though, I don't see why not have the option at least

[dusty river]

consumable that sets ante to 8 and instawins all future blinds? Like, that's not even a game at that point

[static finch]

what?

what are you on about

[dusty river]

it's a stretch I know

[static finch]

I have no idea where did you pull that from

[dusty river]

but like, instantwin effects just all feel like that to me

[static finch]

but I never mentioned any of this

[dusty river]

idk

[static finch]

maybe but if they aren't reliable at all i just want them on as a bonus

[night prism]

this kinda makes no sense though, game design wise

[static finch]

the wanting more score pipeline gives me Jen vibes

and I got bored with that

real easy

[dusty river]

and besides, like I said before, there's an infinite number of ways that are more interesting

[dusty river]

and instantly winning blinds doesn't?

[static finch]

I know

[static finch]

not if it's sporadic imo

as I said, minority

anyway, I agree that not having those things as default is better, yes

[night prism]

instawins make sense on jokers like mr bones since it's meant to save you ass one in a bad situation

[dusty river]

like, what about a Percentage blind beat, instead of an instant win, you have a percent of the blind completed, that means you still need to play your hands, if only to get a clear in one

[night prism]

if you make them a consistent strategy you need to make getting the instawin fun

but in balatro fun = big score

[static finch]

I was about to say that's how I'd change oracle

because it makes sense thematically

too

[night prism]

so just getting a better score is better

[static finch]

so guess I'll make it something like, 1 in 5 for 30% blind size reduction?

[night prism]

makes sense

[static finch]

for oracle mind you

[dusty river]

my problem with the inverted omega/alpha tho, to just say
it's redundant, what you were looking for with them, was the exact same purpose that alpha and omega already served

[static finch]

I already said they're useless now

they worked in my head purely as something akin to revo's boosted cards

but considering they're completely different now in concept it does not hold up

at best I'll make a skin swap for that fabled toggle I guess

[dusty river]

I should probaby edit the alpha/omega in sheets for the changes we talked about in dms lol

[night prism]

unrelated, but do you know of any mods other than cryptid that mess with joker values?

for the augment cards

[dusty river]

hmm, not that I can think of off the top of my head

OH

actually

there is ONE mod that does something similar

[static finch]

I forgot to do that

[dusty river]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1353444508439679150

[static finch]

tomorrow I'll edit all inconsistencies

[static finch]

which is?

[dusty river]

this mod has a deck which makes EDITIONS x1.5 more powerful

[static finch]

old ass discord won't show me

[dusty river]

it may help you find something

[night prism]

actually this gave me an idea for prism

[static finch]

well gn chat

development maybe not tomorrow

[dusty river]

gn ! 👋

[night prism]

i may have got motherboard to work

[dusty river]

OOOO

I think a good joker to test it with would probs be Green Joker

[static finch]

holy moly

oh my god

I just got an idea

fuck sleep I gotta write this down

thought process was greener

tally hall

ruler of everything

and as such I shall make my own time travel joker

well gn for real this time

[night prism]

well, there is an issue

the code for green joker has all positive values

[dusty river]

oh, interesting

[night prism]

the value is just subtracted

this is true for most jokers btw

[dusty river]

huh... well fuck, lol

[night prism]

this is what i meant when i said there were issues with negative values

so we need to rework motherboard

[dusty river]

I'd say maybe just negate subtraction in that case, but I feel like that might have side effects lol

hmm

[night prism]

but how do we know if the value is subtracted or added?

in the code both the addition nd subtraction of green joker are the same

so motherboard can't tell the difference

[dusty river]

ohg, hmmm
yeah, will have to come up with a rework then I guess

for now, I guess just keep the +1 part and remove the set to 0 ?

[night prism]

i liked the effect

[night prism]

i guess yeah

broken with ^mult though

[dusty river]

yeag lol, I thought of that, it's kinda a trait with motherboard, being mostly weak with most jokers, being utterly insane with others

[night prism]

i guess

[dusty river]

part of why I was planning on having the packs be rare

[night prism]

either that or just a percentage based increase

percentage one is easier

it's the same as cryptid

[dusty river]

hmm, okey, I'll have to think on this lol, a ways to keep the binary refrences and move things around with these

[night prism]

true

the reference would be lost

btw found out better way to do all of this

i'm gonna make a general function for value manipulation in the future

so we can reuse it

[dusty river]

I came up with an idea, but it seems incredibly situational lol

oh, btw, did we get the multiselection to work?

[night prism]

not yet

but it is possible if cryptid did it

so i'm not worried

[dusty river]

alright, 2nd rework I did (had another idea, but it required multiselection, so I changed it for now)

[night prism]

will try this

[dusty river]

I made two jokey ideas in the sheet and I think milo's gonna kill me for them lol

"hey patrick, you know what's funnier than tree?"

[night prism]

finished the function, with a lot of comments

this hopefully makes it easy to know what's going on

[dusty river]

cool! :>

[night prism]

never written this many comments lol

vs code even add a lil popup

[dusty river]

ooooo!
Thas reallly coool!!

like really really, that's very helpful, thank you

[dusty river]

what u think of this as a joker sprite?

it'd be for Uranium

don't think it's primordial quality to me, lol, maybe I should've started on some simpler ones lol

like, simpler I mean commons and stuff, I feel like the art for those can be less good lol

tree

this tree better?

[night prism]

commit done

motherboard works

[dusty river]

YIPPEE

[night prism]

i saw there was one more star on the repo and checked, but i guess it's just ours dream team

anyway, i'm hitting the bed

[dusty river]

gn !!

see u tommorow !

[opaque oasis]

I'll help today i swear

[tidal kestrel]

You want me to sue you? What?

[static finch]

I mean you could

[static finch]

@dusty river i command thee

to check out ze vampire jokers

and some other crap i thought of

in primers tab

[night prism]

you are very good at it

[static finch]

you say?

for once

oh by the way I actually didn't write one

[night prism]

today i'll try to get augments working

[static finch]

nice

[night prism]

also plan on releasing darkside alpha

[static finch]

cause it'd be hell to code

probably

[night prism]

i just fixed a mistake with the tree you coded

[dusty river]

I uhhh, cant find it lmao, which line is this on?

[static finch]

...yay :3

[static finch]

Alpheratz

also atlas is weak

I'd make the spawned Earths negative

[dusty river]

I saw that one actually, I swapped x2 for ^2

[static finch]

huh

k then

wait.

we have NOTHING for consumable slots

[dusty river]

I agreed atlas was kinda underpowered

[static finch]

I got an ideaaaa

[dusty river]

Alperatz btw, as a reminder, is the brightest star existant in the Andromeda system, thas where I got the name

also

[static finch]

I looked on Wikipedia and left a comment there

[dusty river]

the idea for effect you wrote really only makes sense w cryptid lol

[static finch]

with the alternate, obscure name

which sounds super cool to me

[static finch]

you mean to tell me having ^mult as base by JUST having hearts in any kind of hand is only with cryptid?

like, instead of chips x mult if you have a hearts card actively scoring you get chips ^mult

before anything else

[dusty river]

didn't it specifically mention ascended hands?

[static finch]

read please

I wrote it in another line completely

[dusty river]

sorry lol, im tired rn lol

[static finch]

no worries

just telling you it's not just with cryptid

[dusty river]

hmm, okey, i did miss the "with cryptid" parts lol
tho, i do think it's a tad odd to have a joker that is more powerful once a certain mod is installed

[static finch]

okay I fucked this up

[dusty river]

not that we can't have crossover content of a new joker that gets added with new mods of course

[static finch]

I mean it'd ONLY do the ascended hand thing and sol generation with cryptid and ONLY the hearts operator increase and sun generating without it

lemme rewrite that

clearly this time

is it clear now?

[dusty river]

ahhh ok
I get it now
although, the cryptid one is a tad unrelated to Hearts coming from a The Sun tarot

[static finch]

it's literally SOL

[dusty river]

afdgsg my brain is at 0% rn lmao

[static finch]

IT'S EVEN MORE SUN THAN THE SUN CARD

[dusty river]

I know but-

[static finch]

okay maybe

i got a better idea

just make another one from zeta?

splitting the thing

at this point it's already split

...quantum star zeta would be super cool

[dusty river]

like, I kinda like them being related to their tarot card in both in theme and effect

[dusty river]

yeah! go for it

[static finch]

i get it, makes sense

[static finch]

k check

[dusty river]

looks good!

[static finch]

indeed

solarium is outta terraria btw

[dusty river]

would put the "only appears with cryptid" in notes column myself, but other than that, it's really nice
like, the effect and all

[static finch]

oh mb

i forgot that existed

[dusty river]

aahhh was wondering

[static finch]

wait no i'm stupid

i meant starbound

https://starbounder.org/Solarium_Ore

[dusty river]

cool!

added a refrence column in primers btw
don't want it to be used tooo commonly, but this one's fire

what i mean by this btw, incase unclear is

refrences are totally fine, infact, for 90% of our mod they have been our lifeblood
but for the primers specifically, id prefer if they weren't refrences to games and movies and such, for the most part at least

[static finch]

it's crossmod I think it's fine

even then, yeah the mysticism theme in primers should be consistent

[dusty river]

yup, was just saying for future
solarium is better than ok, truly

[static finch]

didya read the vampire jokers yet

[dusty river]

I was not able to find them, no, hehehe

[static finch]

other jonklers, slightly down

under everything else

so I didn't clog up stuff with a random subcategory

[dusty river]

Ahhhhh

[static finch]

so?

[dusty river]

they're good from what I read so far, hehe, talking to gf rn so brain's not 100% here rn lmao
I think they could use a bit better formatting tho, I'll help w that once i get up tho

the power is also a tad off me thinks, tho only in, like, numbers
not by much either

[static finch]

fair enough, tell me the changes you'd make

was doing that whole freezing in class so I doubt I was thinking at 100% either

[static finch]

anyway, gayness sways as usual

[dusty river]

I am awake nows lol

also, I just saw that you made some tarots, these are pretty cool, tho I assume they'd have soul'ish rarity at least, as their numbers are pretty high lol

[dusty river]

only just now found online what the name was refering to
it's really cool! Tho, only reason I don't think I'll go with it, is that I'd personally like greek letters like DELTA to be reserved for better/more special jokers, even if it is just one part of the name lol

[static finch]

yeah

[static finch]

it's derivative from a Greek name card

and it fits the theme

[dusty river]

fair, but like, I feel like Delta should be more special idk lol
I get you tho, it's an awesome name

[dusty river]

actually, have been meaning to say this, and think this is something that is important here
"Reference" is there 90% for future art purposes, I want anyone who wants to help with art to be able to know what we were trying to represent
basically, if you think something wouldn't be easily understood for what you'd imagine with the art of it, you can put it in Reference, I wouldn't be too hyperspecific tho, just like, what the card's supposed to be, you know?

with this, I'm actually going back in and adding some more text into the blank refrences actually

[static finch]

yeah makes sense

just noticed i forgot to remove niko's hidden again

now this time i fixed it

[opaque oasis]

Development today

At 3 am

[static finch]

OH MY GOD

AIKOYORI?

[night prism]

Now I can work on this a bit

[static finch]

yayyy :3

[dusty river]

how would I start here?

I never did make a joker yesterday, so I'mma make up for it today

[static finch]

@night prism

oh wait

you are here already

right

i have dementia

[night prism]

this is not the esier one to make, but not complex either

a good one to start with imo

[dusty river]

which one u thinking?

[static finch]

he thinks?

that's new

[night prism]

I was referring to the one in the picture you just sent

[dusty river]

OH

[static finch]

she meant which one you think should she do instead

[dusty river]

ok lmao

[static finch]

dummy

[night prism]

But again, there are easier ones to do

So dunno, you choose

[dusty river]

he meant "Frisk is a good one to start with as it's not too hard but not too easy either"

[night prism]

Yeah

[dusty river]

I wanna do frisk here I think

[night prism]

great

[dusty river]

I've got a copy of Tree up here

[static finch]

yes i get that

[static finch]

"up here"

[dusty river]

"GOING UUUP"

[dusty river]

one of my favorites of the snapcube dubs lol

[night prism]

this seams right

[static finch]

ERECTIN' A DISPENSER

https://tenor.com/view/tf2memes-funny-gif-23593691

[night prism]

what's after the comma after 20?

[dusty river]

the rest of Tree, lmao

[night prism]

lol

[opaque oasis]

What doni do

[dusty river]

I haven't gotten far yet lol

[opaque oasis]

What do i do

What is our progress

[static finch]

go make vampire jokers

[dusty river]

can u make me a Gabriel, Judge of Hell plssss 🥺

[night prism]

I fixed value manipulation

it works

[opaque oasis]

Peak

[static finch]

IS THAT MINOS PRIME-

[opaque oasis]

Ill be stealing that btw

[night prism]

here's the whole function

[opaque oasis]

Hell yeah

[static finch]

:3

[night prism]

But i need to fix some stuff

For now it does not check if the joker is immutable

[static finch]

are you going to make value-altering contracts

[night prism]

so i gotta add that asap

[opaque oasis]

I have ideas

[static finch]

that'd be PEAK

[dusty river]

value-altering printers

[static finch]

contracts that get printed by those printers

[opaque oasis]

Somethingcom THE GOAT made my seal compatiblr with jokers in his mod

[static finch]

Clueless~1

what?

[dusty river]

anyyyyyway, what from here?
I have -1 clue what I'm doing lol

[opaque oasis]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1355819401198178455

[static finch]

ooooh

i forgot about that one

[static finch]

if you used motherboard you'd at least be at 0

[dusty river]

YAY

[dusty river]

btw, the effect WAS changed so that it could be implemented correctly if I recall

not by much, but still

[static finch]

i know i read

unlike you :3

[dusty river]

apparently jokers with negative values, are actually really rare lol

[dusty river]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[night prism]

oh

somehow multiple jokers selection works now

i haven't done anything

[static finch]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-is-dead-spy-engineer-correct-right-gif-26313261

[static finch]

didn't you heist cryptid code

[night prism]

but it did not work before

now it does

maybe it was some other mod i had

[dusty river]

I removed the at end of round stuffs and replaced the mult with chips

[static finch]

weird

[opaque oasis]

Mult_mod?

[night prism]

no need for mult mod here

[dusty river]

I have removed it now

[night prism]

a leftover

[opaque oasis]

Oh

[static finch]

form my code

well, "my" code

[dusty river]

now, this effect SHOULD give +20 chips
just gotta make it give more for each rarity of joker you have

[night prism]

exactly

[night prism]

also, please put the anv local inside the if statement

[static finch]

or else it won't work, right?

[night prism]

so we don't waste memory space creating it wen it's not needed

[opaque oasis]

i'll start this at late at night

[night prism]

it will

[night prism]

but calculate is called every time anything happens

[static finch]

aye

[night prism]

so this would make the variable every time

[opaque oasis]

my pc almost broke

[static finch]

so calling it without it being useful isn't good obv

[night prism]

just a waste of memory and resources

[static finch]

holy hell

[opaque oasis]

i cant use my taskbar

and for the first time in years

im using microsoft edge

[dusty river]

like this?

oh wait, holy shit, I'm starting to get the code a bit

[night prism]

yes

[dusty river]

"local anv = card.ability.extra" is grabbing a list, right? taking all the shit from above and letting the code below use it?

[static finch]

oh god

it's that bad

[night prism]

kinda