balatro 20 questions

[onyx juniper]

yooo

alright lets just move to this thread @stone mirage @tired adder @tight hinge

[tight hinge]

@tired adder @stone mirage

Ye I’m here

Tragic double ping

[tired adder]

alright here @stone mirage

not econ, not scoring, not related to scoring

[tight hinge]

Is it a passive and non conditional effect

[tired adder]

thats two questions

[onyx juniper]

oh aarush is here now

[stone mirage]

is it in hand effect

[tight hinge]

Is it a passive effect

[onyx juniper]

not necessarily

[tired adder]

no

[tired adder]

yes

[tired adder]

for the spirit of the game, id say it is

[tight hinge]

Is it a conditional effect

[onyx juniper]

is it both at once is one question

[stone mirage]

is it enhancement related

[tired adder]

wait

its a passive effect

i misread.

[stone mirage]

ooo

[stone mirage]

what about this

[tired adder]

no

[onyx juniper]

can it give you econ, even if its not an econ joker (selling the joker doesnt count lol)

[tired adder]

anything can give you econ, so yes.

[stone mirage]

is it related to consumable cards

[tired adder]

no

[stone mirage]

selling dosent coutn right?

[onyx juniper]

would you say 4f could give you econ? whatever it doesnt really matter

[tight hinge]

Does it produce a consumable card

[tired adder]

no

[onyx juniper]

its not related bro

he just asked

[stone mirage]

its not related to consumable caards

[tight hinge]

Oops

[onyx juniper]

wait is it uncommon

[tired adder]

no

[tight hinge]

Common?

[tired adder]

yes

[stone mirage]

does it save you from boss blind

[onyx juniper]

anything can

even 8 ball

[stone mirage]

is ti retriggering effect

wait i already asked that

[tight hinge]

Is it a food item

[onyx juniper]

is it utility

i think it has to be

[stone mirage]

CREDIT CARD

[tired adder]

thats econ imo

[onyx juniper]

no its not related to econ

[stone mirage]

yeah

its common right?

[tired adder]

yes

[stone mirage]

RIFF RAFF

[tired adder]

no

[tight hinge]

Does it add a discard or hand

[onyx juniper]

does it scale

[tight hinge]

Not two questions

[stone mirage]

is it hand size related

drunkard

jugglar

🫡

🏆

ez

[tired adder]

maze or aarush

[onyx juniper]

wait juggler

[stone mirage]

well actually thanks to @tight hinge question

[onyx juniper]

oh

drunkard

[tight hinge]

teehee

[stone mirage]

maze u go

[onyx juniper]

i was looking at my collection rq and missed it

alr

give me a sec to choose

ok

[stone mirage]

its been more than a asecond

[onyx juniper]

got it

[stone mirage]

is it scoring

[onyx juniper]

yes

[stone mirage]

is it common

[tight hinge]

does it scale

[onyx juniper]

sort of, it helps your score but isnt strictly scoring

[tight hinge]

Interesting

[stone mirage]

is it common

[onyx juniper]

under "permanently gaining value," no

but this COULD mislead you.. il say no it doesnt scale

[onyx juniper]

no

[stone mirage]

IS IT COMMON

is it uncommon

is it rare

[onyx juniper]

yes

[tired adder]

is it stencil

[stone mirage]

stencil rare definitely

[onyx juniper]

no, stencil is strictly scoring despite being conditional

[tired adder]

good to know

[onyx juniper]

^

[stone mirage]

is it related to econ

[tight hinge]

Does it have values (any kind) that change on the card

[onyx juniper]

it can be but generally no

[onyx juniper]

lilo was right lol anything can be econ

[stone mirage]

can be

[tired adder]

is it RNG would be a better question

[onyx juniper]

yes!

[tight hinge]

Technically no

[tired adder]

is it RNG

[stone mirage]

does its value change depending on amount of specific card you have

[tight hinge]

Suit selects, scaling that isn’t scaling, probability, card selects

[onyx juniper]

[onyx juniper]

there are like 2 jokers that do that lol

cloud 9

and i dont think anything else

[tight hinge]

Does it care about card suit

[stone mirage]

is it +mult

[onyx juniper]

oh enhancement jokers. anyways

[onyx juniper]

[tired adder]

its NOT SCORING

come on aarush

[stone mirage]

it is

[tired adder]

dementia out here

[onyx juniper]

it can be, but no

[stone mirage]

its scoring

[tight hinge]

Does it deckfix

[stone mirage]

maze said its scoring

but not strictly

[onyx juniper]

it can give you +mult from synergy

[tired adder]

right mb

[onyx juniper]

it is not +mult

[onyx juniper]

[stone mirage]

is it retriggering effect

[onyx juniper]

yes

[tight hinge]

Dusk

[tired adder]

is it hack

[onyx juniper]

pretty obv now

[tired adder]

is it sock

[onyx juniper]

none of those

[stone mirage]

its RARE

@tired adder

[tired adder]

???

[tight hinge]

huh

[tired adder]

are you stupid

[onyx juniper]

^

[stone mirage]

its rare joker

[tight hinge]

Oh interesting

[onyx juniper]

not rare lmao

[stone mirage]

hack is uncommon

[tired adder]

maze replied to 'is it uncommon' with yes

[onyx juniper]

uncommon

[stone mirage]

wait what

its uncommon?

[tired adder]

silly aarush

[stone mirage]

dusk

seltzer

[onyx juniper]

yea sorry if u were misled

[tight hinge]

SKETZER

[onyx juniper]

bingo

[tight hinge]

Yeah

[stone mirage]

🏆

[onyx juniper]

unfortunately typo and after aarush lol

[stone mirage]

strek of 3

[tired adder]

aarush

[stone mirage]

pog

yes

[tight hinge]

No that was me reacting to him

[onyx juniper]

i see

[tight hinge]

Cause yeah that’s the one retrigger I always forget

[stone mirage]

what?

[tired adder]

its your turn

[onyx juniper]

yep

[stone mirage]

alr

got it

[onyx juniper]

is it scoring

is it uncommon

[stone mirage]

yes

yes

omg what

[onyx juniper]

nice

does it care about suit or rank

[stone mirage]

no

no

[onyx juniper]

ok

[tight hinge]

Is it xmult

[onyx juniper]

is it scaling

[stone mirage]

N

Y

[stone mirage]

Y

[tired adder]

reply 😭

[onyx juniper]

reply to the message

[tired adder]

also if ur on pc just react its quicker

[stone mirage]

N

[tight hinge]

Is it +chips

[stone mirage]

OK

[tired adder]

uhhh

[onyx juniper]

uncommon chips?

[tight hinge]

Does it have retrigger synergy

[tired adder]

hiker

[tight hinge]

Is it castle

[onyx juniper]

castle

[tired adder]

stone joker?

bull?

[onyx juniper]

mb

ooh both good

[tired adder]

alr

[tight hinge]

Ye gg

I have a fun one

[stone mirage]

ALR

[onyx juniper]

ok i would like to say tho

technically

before we start a new round

[tight hinge]

Go for it

[onyx juniper]

we should have this scaling definition:

[stone mirage]

i love this game

[tight hinge]

Yeah

[stone mirage]

bean is scaling

[onyx juniper]

it permanently gains value when something happens

[onyx juniper]

no

[tight hinge]

So much less redacting files

[onyx juniper]

we wont allow descaling

[stone mirage]

bull and boorstraps are scling too

[onyx juniper]

and also bean has an upper limit, on its descaling

[onyx juniper]

based on this definition, no.

also stone would not be scaling

[tight hinge]

No, the cards never change effect technically

[stone mirage]

this makes it confusing

[tight hinge]

They just always give + related to X

[tired adder]

well

[onyx juniper]

no actually it makes it very simple

[tired adder]

what

[stone mirage]

you should change your definition

[tired adder]

how is stone not scaling

[stone mirage]

maze change your scaling definitiopn

[onyx juniper]

balatrodle definition

[stone mirage]

see bean is scaling

[tired adder]

so then wdym stone isnt scaling

[flint ember]

“Or decreases”

[onyx juniper]

well stones can be hung. if no one likes this definition but me

then sure

this is good

[tired adder]

also hi

[stone mirage]

ur definition is trash

[onyx juniper]

decreases or increases on card is scaling

[stone mirage]

yes

better

[tired adder]

yeah i like that

[onyx juniper]

ok ok we use this

[tired adder]

its consistent

[flint ember]

Hi 😊 I’m lurking

[onyx juniper]

ok now new round you or @flint ember if he wants to play

[stone mirage]

so bootstraps and bull are scaling too

[onyx juniper]

we ok with this?

[tight hinge]

Sure ig

[tired adder]

if just lurking then we can go to me

[tight hinge]

Rules aren’t static anyways

[stone mirage]

its ddx's turn

iirc

[onyx juniper]

i think it would be ddx now lol

[flint ember]

I can’t lead I’m at work. But thanks

[onyx juniper]

i see

let me check

[tight hinge]

I got a fun one but I don’t mind

[tired adder]

what

[onyx juniper]

me than it was him then aarush ok lilo goes

[tired adder]

alright

[onyx juniper]

we both misremembered lol

[tired adder]

im ready

[onyx juniper]

sorry lilo

[stone mirage]

its ddx's turn

[onyx juniper]

is it scoring

[tight hinge]

I vote to not ask rarity

[onyx juniper]

oh...

[onyx juniper]

fair enough, you can go next round. do we just state scoring or not ask because it narrows it down too much?

[tight hinge]

Nah scoring is fine

[stone mirage]

alr so lilo is it common

[tight hinge]

Rarity just really strangles the pool

[onyx juniper]

ok after this round we cant ask rarity

[tight hinge]

Is it uncommon

[stone mirage]

is it econ

[tight hinge]

It also means rare and legendary jokers are suicide rounds

[onyx juniper]

is it utility

[stone mirage]

is it enhancement related

[onyx juniper]

lol

[stone mirage]

can someone explain utility to me

[tight hinge]

Does it deckfix

[onyx juniper]

does it destroy, create, or beneft from either?

[onyx juniper]

after

[tired adder]

huh

[stone mirage]

is it related to consumable cards

[onyx juniper]

6th sense adn trading card destroy, cartomancer creates, madness the other two benefit from destruction

[stone mirage]

does it effect handsize/hands/discards

[tired adder]

but troub doesnt do either and is util, i would say

[stone mirage]

is it scaling

[onyx juniper]

yes. i wasnt asking util, i was asking does it destroy create or benefit from either

[stone mirage]

is it in hand effect

is it retrigger effect

does it disable boss

[tight hinge]

Hm. Is it dice

[stone mirage]

is it rng

[tight hinge]

Idk a good question that rules out dice from there so

[onyx juniper]

its utility bro

[stone mirage]

does it make playing hands easier

[onyx juniper]

PAREIDOLIA

synergy based joker

[tired adder]

btw

i would say dice counts as RNG because it has a probability listed on it

[onyx juniper]

there are like 3 cards that do this

[tight hinge]

Yeah that works for me

[stone mirage]

ur gonna explain utility to me later i thought

[onyx juniper]

^

[onyx juniper]

true ill just now

[tight hinge]

Does it have a downside

[stone mirage]

all jokers have technically

[onyx juniper]

MERRY ANDY

[tired adder]

good point, but yes it does have a direct downside.

[tight hinge]

No discard efffects

[stone mirage]

is it cola

[onyx juniper]

utility doesnt give you econ or scoring, but it gives you something like extra hand size, discards, or makes a hand easier to play, or something like that

[onyx juniper]

ohh cola wouldve been a good one

i wish i had done that

[tired adder]

it creates

[onyx juniper]

and i hope ddx wasnt gonna do that

[tired adder]

so it falls under one of maze's old questions

[onyx juniper]

it does? u didnt answer that question i dont think lol

[stone mirage]

i think i didnt read that

yeah

[onyx juniper]

ohh diet cola does

[tight hinge]

I can’t think of a non hand/discard related uncommon that has a downside

[stone mirage]

its a creation joker right?

[onyx juniper]

troubador

[onyx juniper]

no thats cola

[tight hinge]

That’s hand related

[tired adder]

its one you wouldnt think of having a downside

[tight hinge]

Ughh

[stone mirage]

it dosent give hands/discards right?

[tired adder]

but it is a direct downside

[tight hinge]

Not deckfix

Adding cards counts imo

[stone mirage]

astronomer

[tight hinge]

cause yeah it’s bad fixing but it’s deckfixing

[tired adder]

astro is econ

[stone mirage]

no?

maybe

[onyx juniper]

midas mask and hologram both have indirect downsides

[stone mirage]

yeah

[onyx juniper]

right?

[tight hinge]

I guess yes

[tired adder]

its effect is price

[stone mirage]

yeah

[onyx juniper]

egg

[tight hinge]

But there do exist like, objective downsides

[tired adder]

indirect, yes.

[onyx juniper]

wait no

thats econ

[stone mirage]

marble joker

[tired adder]

i was replying to the msg about astro

[onyx juniper]

lol reacted to the wrong message

[stone mirage]

MARBLE JOKER

[tight hinge]

There’s no way losing a discard or hand size is a good thing.

Maybe if you’re trying to like

Lowball rounds

[onyx juniper]

meaning to

[tight hinge]

But the clanging of your steel cards is scaring away the scaling

[stone mirage]

did we guess paeradolia

[onyx juniper]

you didnt reply to the astro message but you meant to

[tired adder]

yeah

[stone mirage]

lemme confirm agaian is it handsize/hands/discards/creation?

[tight hinge]

Does it have a boss blind exclusive effect

[stone mirage]

sixth sense

[tight hinge]

Why’d I ask that

[onyx juniper]

lmao

[stone mirage]

it dosent make playing hands easier right?

[tired adder]

right.

[onyx juniper]

6s is creation. not creation

[tired adder]

btw

[stone mirage]

rihght

[tired adder]

are we making matador boss exclusive

because technically

on the double or nothing challenge

[stone mirage]

it should be

[tired adder]

it procs on debuffed cards

[tight hinge]

Wait what? That’s hilarious

[tired adder]

its not matador btw

[stone mirage]

challenges dont count

[onyx juniper]

wait REALLY? thats so cool. still boss exclusive tho

[tight hinge]

but I think that’s an oversight

[stone mirage]

dont count challenges

[onyx juniper]

yeah no challenges

[stone mirage]

its not deckfix

its not rng

not scoring

[tired adder]

this is the biggest clue btw

[tight hinge]

OH

burglar

[stone mirage]

certificate

[onyx juniper]

aw man

[tired adder]

1 sec

[stone mirage]

WAIT

SHOWMAN

[onyx juniper]

burglar could sort of be econ but good guess

OHH SHOWMAN

[stone mirage]

SHOWMAN SHOWMAN

[onyx juniper]

THATS SO GOOD

[stone mirage]

MAN SHOW

[tight hinge]

Fun joker

[stone mirage]

downside

[onyx juniper]

yeah its showman 100%

[stone mirage]

it has donside

[onyx juniper]

your entire shop could be more showmans lol

[tight hinge]

I’d love to see the showman seed

[stone mirage]

ah

[onyx juniper]

WHAAT

[stone mirage]

dammit

[onyx juniper]

NOT SHOWMAN

HOW

[tired adder]

im so glad i picked this

[tight hinge]

Marble…?

[stone mirage]

did i guess carto

[tight hinge]

That’s deckfix

[stone mirage]

carto?

is it even uncommon

[onyx juniper]

MARBLE?

[stone mirage]

not retriggering effect

[tired adder]

it has a direct downside

[stone mirage]

I GUESSED THAT 5 MINS AGO

[onyx juniper]

dang

[stone mirage]

mannnnnnnnnnnn

[onyx juniper]

really? you said it was something you wouldnt at first imagine to be a downside or something like that

[tired adder]

yes

[tight hinge]

It can’t be dagger which is the only other downside I’m thinking of

[tired adder]

but it is a direct downside

[stone mirage]

its not spcae joker

[onyx juniper]

madness...

[stone mirage]

that means it is space joker

i won

[tight hinge]

Blackboard isn’t passive

[onyx juniper]

OH

VAMPIRE

PLEASE

NOOOO

[tight hinge]

Vampire is score and scaling

[stone mirage]

NOT SCORINg

[onyx juniper]

oh yeah

[tight hinge]

Card sharp doesn’t negatively affect anything right

[tired adder]

I should elaborate with a question on that

[tight hinge]

And it’s scoring

[onyx juniper]

no

[stone mirage]

is it scaling

[tired adder]

specifically about scoring

[tight hinge]

Does it affect the score of a hand if it’s being triggered on its own

[stone mirage]

SEANCE

SEANCE

SEANCe

[onyx juniper]

trading card

[onyx juniper]

creation

[stone mirage]

trading card is deckfixing

[tight hinge]

Deckfix

[tired adder]

destruction

and deckfix

and econ

[onyx juniper]

ramen... not scaling or scoring lol

true

[stone mirage]

seance is creation

bro

[onyx juniper]

aghhh

yeah

this is rough

[stone mirage]

seance is the right category right?

creation

[tight hinge]

Does it have a value that can change over the course of the run (sell value and perishable doesn’t count)

[onyx juniper]

mr bones if your suicidal

[stone mirage]

wait it wasnt creation?

[tired adder]

yes

[stone mirage]

NOOOOOOOOO

[onyx juniper]

wait WHAT

[stone mirage]

💀

[tired adder]

mr bones has a direct downside

[onyx juniper]

NO FUCKING WAY

[tired adder]

it self destructs

[tight hinge]

Bones is a boss effect

[onyx juniper]

LMFAOOOOOOO

[stone mirage]

omg

[tired adder]

no it isnt

[tight hinge]

Oh no it isn’t shit

[onyx juniper]

can be small/big too

[stone mirage]

whos turn

[tired adder]

dx

[tight hinge]

I ruled out bones so long ago fuck

[onyx juniper]

then mine i think

[stone mirage]

dx

u had a fun one

[tight hinge]

Yeah okay I’m ready

[tired adder]

i was wanting you guys to ask if its scoring related

[onyx juniper]

alr no rarities this time

[tired adder]

is it econ or econ related

[onyx juniper]

ok is it scoring

[tight hinge]

prob won’t matter but sure

[stone mirage]

bet

[tight hinge]

No

[tight hinge]

No

[stone mirage]

is it scoring

is it retrigger effect

[tight hinge]

No (again) and no

[onyx juniper]

is it utility?

[tired adder]

does it have a white background on the card art

[tight hinge]

Yeah

[tight hinge]

No

[tired adder]

cool

[onyx juniper]

ooh

[stone mirage]

does it have more than 5 colors

[onyx juniper]

shortcut?

[tight hinge]

No

[tired adder]

is it creation or destruction

[tight hinge]

Yeah I think so

[onyx juniper]

very vague question

[tight hinge]

No

[onyx juniper]

well ig not

[stone mirage]

thats huge

very huge

[tight hinge]

Not reallly

I’m counting shading

[tired adder]

is it related to a specific rank or suit or type of card(s)

[stone mirage]

ok

[onyx juniper]

shading?

[stone mirage]

does it make playing hands easier

[tight hinge]

No

[tight hinge]

No

[stone mirage]

is it scaling

[tight hinge]

no

[onyx juniper]

damn this is so hard without rarity

so its sorta creation/destruction...

[tight hinge]

Yeah but it’s a sneaky joker

[stone mirage]

does it effect handsize/discards/hands

[tight hinge]

No

[onyx juniper]

burglar again?

[tight hinge]

No

[tired adder]

affect btw

[tight hinge]

It’s sneaky because of what I picked

[stone mirage]

INVIS JOKER

[tired adder]

thats creation

[tight hinge]

No

[stone mirage]

right

[tight hinge]

And yeah it makes a card

[stone mirage]

blueprint

brainstorm

[tired adder]

what

[tight hinge]

Yes

[tired adder]

it makes a card?

[stone mirage]

pog

[onyx juniper]

where did that come from and why was it right

[tight hinge]

Invis does

[stone mirage]

🏆

[tight hinge]

Not the one I thought of

[tired adder]

right okay

[onyx juniper]

ok me now?

[tight hinge]

Copy effect jokers technically have very few effect

[onyx juniper]

ahh i have several good ones i want to do

[tight hinge]

I can’t say yes to literally every answer

[stone mirage]

i got 5 wins i think

[tight hinge]

And the card effect is passive, static, cares about position, etc

[tight hinge]

You guess rapidly

[onyx juniper]

ok so since we have a lot of time im gonna go with this

im ready

[stone mirage]

im speed

[tight hinge]

Often incorrectly

[stone mirage]

is it scoring

[tired adder]

does the placement of this joker matter

[onyx juniper]

true lol

[tight hinge]

Play the game silly

[onyx juniper]

no

[tired adder]

cool

[onyx juniper]

yes

[tired adder]

right so

[onyx juniper]

well yes for bp/bs but yk

[tired adder]

by this i mean

[stone mirage]

is it retriggering efffect

[onyx juniper]

no

[tired adder]

can the impact of the joker change depending on it's placement (besides for being copied by bp/bs)

[stone mirage]

gtg

[onyx juniper]

no matter where you place it it has the same effect?

[onyx juniper]

yeah i figured. no it cant

[tired adder]

alright

[onyx juniper]

nooooooo goodbye aarush

[tight hinge]

Can scrambling overall joker order change anything

[tired adder]

so no scoring apart from chips

[tight hinge]

Instead of just the one joker

[tired adder]

yeah

[onyx juniper]

its scoring

[tired adder]

is it compatible

[onyx juniper]

yes

[tight hinge]

Does it have synergy with Oa6

[onyx juniper]

no

you could just ask is it rng lol

[tight hinge]

No it’s a very specific question

[tired adder]

yeah

[onyx juniper]

true

[tired adder]

its more specific than rng

[tight hinge]

Cause that includes retriggers imo

[tired adder]

cause rng includes tdl, idol, etc

[tight hinge]

And lucky cards

[tired adder]

?

retriggers arent related to oa6s or RNG

not directly

[tight hinge]

Yeah but loosely

[tired adder]

i wouldnt count that

[stone mirage]

back

[onyx juniper]

hm...

[onyx juniper]

oh youre back? niec

niec :)

[tired adder]

is it creation or destruction

[stone mirage]

r u stil going

[onyx juniper]

no

[stone mirage]

ok

[onyx juniper]

i am

[tight hinge]

We think it’s chips right

[tired adder]

yeah

[stone mirage]

alr so does it make playing hands easier

[onyx juniper]

no 😭 there aer like 4 jokers that do this bro

[stone mirage]

ok

[tired adder]

does it give mult and chips

[stone mirage]

walkie talkie

[onyx juniper]

no (not BOTH)

[onyx juniper]

no

[tired adder]

is it on-score

(fib, todd, etc)

[onyx juniper]

yes

[tight hinge]

Does it synergize with retriggers

[onyx juniper]

yes

[tired adder]

right

[stone mirage]

its arrowhead

arrowhead

[onyx juniper]

no

[tight hinge]

Does it care about suit at all

[tired adder]

its not necessarily chips

[onyx juniper]

yes, sort of

[tired adder]

actually no it is

[stone mirage]

hmm

[tired adder]

still chips

[tight hinge]

Hm.

[tired adder]

because on-score mult matters with joker order

cause of on-score xmult

[stone mirage]

is it only and only chips

[onyx juniper]

[tired adder]

hm

[stone mirage]

ooo

[tight hinge]

I’m sorry but I’m lost on sort-of suit related

[stone mirage]

is it scaling

[onyx juniper]

no

[onyx juniper]

you will see why when its revealed, felt like that was actually kind of a big hint lol

[tight hinge]

Multiple effects including chips, cares about suit sorta

[tight hinge]

Alright

[onyx juniper]

multiple effects including chips? i dont remember saying either of those...

[tight hinge]

Does it have a chip related effect

[onyx juniper]

no

[tired adder]

yes we know that

WHAT

[stone mirage]

its not only chips

its somethin else too

[onyx juniper]

i dont remember saying that

[tight hinge]

Yeah figured we should have asked

[tired adder]

so is it scoring

[tight hinge]

They ruled it out and we assumed from there

[stone mirage]

its scoring

[onyx juniper]

it is, aarush asked

[tired adder]

is it xmult

[onyx juniper]

yes

[tired adder]

on-score xmult

[stone mirage]

WHAHTHHAHTHATHA

[onyx juniper]

shit u have it now lol

[tired adder]

is it RNG

[tight hinge]

With retrigger synergy

[tired adder]

idol?

[tight hinge]

Lucky cat?

[tired adder]

ancient joker?

[stone mirage]

how is it chips and xmult

WHAT

[onyx juniper]

good job

[tight hinge]

It’s not

[stone mirage]

i dont get it

[tight hinge]

It’s just xmult

[stone mirage]

explain

[tight hinge]

We were on chips for no reason

Also AC does care about suit imo

[stone mirage]

but maze said yes to chips

[onyx juniper]

yes, if we agree that its RNG since its affected by which card it picks that seems fair

[onyx juniper]

when

[tight hinge]

Show us

[stone mirage]

u didnt?

[tight hinge]

Nah

[stone mirage]

dam

alr my turn

[stone mirage]

lemme choose

[tight hinge]

pfft

yeah that’s on all of us for doing chips for so long

[onyx juniper]

lol

[stone mirage]

got it

ready

[tired adder]

@onyx juniper okay so you lied

[tight hinge]

Is it Chip related

[onyx juniper]

when lilo said rng includes things like idol i was shaking in my boots

[tired adder]

because i asked if joker order affects the impact

it does

[onyx juniper]

ok, where

[tight hinge]

Is it scoring I should ask

[onyx juniper]

how

[tired adder]

because if you have on-score +mult after on-score xmult

it applies +mult first

assuming its on the same card

like with smiley and photo

[tight hinge]

Interesting, that’s true

[onyx juniper]

ohhhh my bad. i should get a penalty for that lmao

[tired adder]

yeah

[onyx juniper]

-1 win for me 😔

[stone mirage]

lol

[tired adder]

joker order can affect the impact

[onyx juniper]

yeah i forgot that you could include other onscore jokers

[stone mirage]

why is the name "20 questions btw"

[tight hinge]

Does it have a cash effect

[tired adder]

just cause thats a similar game

[onyx juniper]

thats the base game except were not coutning questions

[stone mirage]

wdym

[tight hinge]

“20 questions” is a real game

[onyx juniper]

econ

[tight hinge]

Money. Does it have an effect related to money

[tight hinge]

Nah, this includes bull and boot

[onyx juniper]

true

[onyx juniper]

is it related to discards

or hands

(burglar is like kinda econ lol)

[onyx juniper]

is it rebate

[tight hinge]

Ye but not cash related

[onyx juniper]

is it faceless

is it delayed gratification

[tight hinge]

He’s waiting to say

Yeah lol

[stone mirage]

dam that was fsat

[onyx juniper]

yooo

[tight hinge]

should have went afk for 15 secs

[onyx juniper]

instant recouperating for my -1 win for OUTRIGHT LYING!1!!!

[tight hinge]

Cheaters keep winning

[stone mirage]

im not that evil

[onyx juniper]

cheaters? ok wait new rule

you cant ask 2 questions in a row

if you asked a question

wait for someone else to ask one

before asking again

[stone mirage]

enable slowmode in this thread

[tight hinge]

@stone mirage get nerfed

[tired adder]

cant

[stone mirage]

no

is it ride the bus

[tight hinge]

Also I was joking

[onyx juniper]

annoying but yea cant

[tired adder]

genuinely should be though

[onyx juniper]

fair enough but this is a good rule anyways

[tight hinge]

This is a communal effort

[onyx juniper]

to nerf @stone mirage

[tired adder]

makes taking your time fair

[onyx juniper]

yea

[stone mirage]

wins: 5 🏆

[tired adder]

so whos is it

[stone mirage]

lilo

[tight hinge]

You I think?

[onyx juniper]

i havent been counting my wins lol

[tired adder]

alright

[stone mirage]

im gonna go eat

bye

[onyx juniper]

goodbye

[stone mirage]

prolly watch roffle while eating

[onyx juniper]

lmao we love roffle

[tight hinge]

Ready?

[onyx juniper]

is it scoring

[stone mirage]

yknow what ima just spectate

[onyx juniper]

is it mult (+ or x)

[tight hinge]

Does it have retrigger synergy

Does it scale

[onyx juniper]

just gonna lurk (like @flint ember i see you over there)

[onyx juniper]

ooo rulebreak! whatever

[tight hinge]

It is?

[onyx juniper]

is it xmult

[onyx juniper]

no 2 questions in a row

[tired adder]

lol

[stone mirage]

trash rule

[onyx juniper]

lmao i saw your answer so now we both broke a rule

but not lilo yet

[onyx juniper]

your just salty you cant spam now lmaooo

[onyx juniper]

oh on my screen its different

[tight hinge]

Tragic

[onyx juniper]

so im the only rulebreaker here i see how it is

[tired adder]

client side moment

[tight hinge]

Super tragic

[stone mirage]

thats why trash rule

[tired adder]

nah

[onyx juniper]

lmao

[tight hinge]

It’s a good rule

[onyx juniper]

nah trust good rule no more spamming

[tired adder]

ASK A QUESTION OMG

[onyx juniper]

i cant

i just asked

[tight hinge]

Is it probability related

[tired adder]

held hostage

[onyx juniper]

is it constellation

[stone mirage]

obelisk

[onyx juniper]

is it glass joker OR lucky cat (just say yes if either)

[tired adder]

cat is probability related

[onyx juniper]

rng yeah youre right

[tight hinge]

Was it xmult

[onyx juniper]

scaling xmult

[tight hinge]

Idk if we asked that

Yeah

[stone mirage]

can it descale

[tight hinge]

Oh then this should be easy sooner than later

Does it reset its xmult

[onyx juniper]

campfire

[stone mirage]

obelisk

[tight hinge]

Hit the road

[onyx juniper]

RAMEN

ahhh

[stone mirage]

dam

[onyx juniper]

dang it

[stone mirage]

gg

[onyx juniper]

hit the road lmao

gg ddx

[tight hinge]

gg

is it me or you @onyx juniper

[onyx juniper]

who now? me again or aarush or what

[tired adder]

brb

[tight hinge]

He needs to eat allegedly

[onyx juniper]

not sure lol

[tired adder]

u can still continue

[onyx juniper]

allegedly LMAO

[tight hinge]

I’ll go

[stone mirage]

im typing with my litle finger am i debuffed now

[onyx juniper]

all abilities are disabled

[tight hinge]

Ready

[stone mirage]

im nerfed

[onyx juniper]

alr

is it scoring

[tight hinge]

no

Hoped you wouldn’t ask

[stone mirage]

rng

[onyx juniper]

is it econ

[tight hinge]

No

[tight hinge]

Yes

[stone mirage]

cashout?

[onyx juniper]

is it related to discards

[tight hinge]

No

[tight hinge]

?

[stone mirage]

is it cashout econ

[onyx juniper]

at the cashout screen

eg sattelite golden rocket

[tight hinge]

Yeah

No

[stone mirage]

is it scaling

[tight hinge]

Yeah

[onyx juniper]

ROCKET

[stone mirage]

rockt

[tight hinge]

Yes

[onyx juniper]

lmao tie game?

[onyx juniper]

tie game aarush was nerfed

[stone mirage]

little finger nerf made u win'

[tight hinge]

You technically said it first by a mile

[onyx juniper]

ill go now

[tired adder]

u win

[tight hinge]

.

[onyx juniper]

ok i have one i think

[tight hinge]

Hoped to get “scaling” first because not many scaling jokers are Econ

[stone mirage]

so kind of u but no'

[onyx juniper]

ok i had two i wanted to do. ive decided

u can guess now

[tight hinge]

Oh

[stone mirage]

rng

[tight hinge]

Is it scaling

[onyx juniper]

no

[onyx juniper]

no

[stone mirage]

econ

[tight hinge]

Scoring?

[onyx juniper]

[stone mirage]

hands discards handsize

[onyx juniper]

yes

[onyx juniper]

nope

[tight hinge]

Does it have a hand (type) related trigger

[stone mirage]

conditional?

[onyx juniper]

[onyx juniper]

yes

[stone mirage]

licensde

[onyx juniper]

dude

[tight hinge]

Is it xmult

[onyx juniper]

come on

[stone mirage]

what

[onyx juniper]

🏆

[tight hinge]

Pfft

[stone mirage]

nerfed win

[onyx juniper]

howd u guess so quickly 😭

[stone mirage]

wins: 6 🏆

[onyx juniper]

ok well @tired adder should go now but i think shes gone

[tight hinge]

Typing the jokers that catch your eye in collection > braincell activity

[onyx juniper]

so aarush

[stone mirage]

conditional xmult not scaling

license

[tight hinge]

We knew it was xmult?

[onyx juniper]

true but did i say xmult?

[stone mirage]

ye

[onyx juniper]

i dont think so but we knew it was scoring

[onyx juniper]

anyways there are lots of these not just license

[stone mirage]

it was xmult

[onyx juniper]

like blackboard

[stone mirage]

ddx asked

[tight hinge]

After you guessed lol

[onyx juniper]

after u guessed

[tight hinge]

we didn’t know it was xmult

[stone mirage]

i went back in time']

[onyx juniper]

and card sharp, theres a whole group of "cavendishionals" that give conditional x3 mult

and things like seeing double

but ofc u just immediately knew it was license lmao

ok @stone mirage you go or need to eat?

[stone mirage]

alr my turn wait 1 min

[onyx juniper]

k

[tight hinge]

I wonder if we add a win condition for the… uhh. Non guesser

[onyx juniper]

probably not it would be convoluted i think, if we make it something like 20 questions max people can still blurt out dumb questions and mess everyone else up

[tight hinge]

Like a limited number of joker guesses, but that doesn’t work here lol.
Limited number of joker guesses per person

Nah max questions is boring

[stone mirage]

i can play this all day

ready

[onyx juniper]

hmm thats better but you would have to keep count lool

is it econ

[tight hinge]

Let’s do a 3 lives thing

3 joker guesses per person

[stone mirage]

oooooooh

[onyx juniper]

ok

[stone mirage]

i like that

can only say 3 joker names

[tight hinge]

unlimited ordinary guesses

Honor system

[stone mirage]

if everyone guesses their 3 jokers i win

[onyx juniper]

@tired adder if you come back, new rule, unlimited normal guesses but 3 lives of joker names

[stone mirage]

rigjht?

[tight hinge]

You can keep playing after losing lives

[tight hinge]

Yes

[onyx juniper]

see but wait this goes hard cus hear me out

[onyx juniper]

you cant ask twice in a row

[stone mirage]

im winnin this one

[onyx juniper]

so for example if you think its card sharp

[tight hinge]

Yup

[onyx juniper]

and you say "does it start with c, end with p, and give you 3x mult conditionally"

[tight hinge]

It’s less about the endgame final guess and more about the fun part of strategizing a question

[onyx juniper]

and the answer is yes, someone else can say CARD SHARP!

[stone mirage]

my wins before: 6

my wins after 5 minutes: 7

[onyx juniper]

but not you

thats realy cool

ok lets keep going

[onyx juniper]

yea

[stone mirage]

cool

[onyx juniper]

your question @tight hinge

[tight hinge]

Ah

[onyx juniper]

i cant

[tight hinge]

Does it have a passive effect

[stone mirage]

wai

wait

explain passive effect

[tight hinge]

Is its effect always active

[stone mirage]

no

[tight hinge]

Four fingers is always active

Golden ticket is always active

[stone mirage]

no?

[onyx juniper]

ok wait golden ticket is unconditional

[stone mirage]

golden ticket is passive?

[tight hinge]

Ye sorry ticket is not always active

[onyx juniper]

so in that case, is it unconditional, but passive effect is something like

[flint ember]

Forgive me, but FYI your game is more fun to follow than most actual sports 👏

[onyx juniper]

drunkard

[stone mirage]

alr maze your question

[onyx juniper]

lmao

[stone mirage]

join in fellow

[onyx juniper]

ok well im assuming its not something like burglar because u said no passive effect, is it utility?

[tight hinge]

Can it trigger more than once per blind.

[onyx juniper]

hmm

[stone mirage]

explain utility again

[tight hinge]

It’s not directly helping score or money, and it’s not leveling up hands or deckfixing

[flint ember]

Thanks but can’t rn 🙂

[tight hinge]

It’s instead making managing your deck and hands played easier

Burglar, drunkard, shortcut

[onyx juniper]

well id say space joker is utility/scoring its like a grey area and burnt is utility

[stone mirage]

idk how to answer that

can we skip this

[onyx juniper]

utiity is something that gives you some sort of positive benefit thats not just like econ or scoring. for example, juggler gives +1 hand size but no money or anything

[tight hinge]

Does it relate to hand levels

[onyx juniper]

troubador gives +2 hand size -1 hand, thats utility

[stone mirage]

then i think its utility

[onyx juniper]

utility is just anything that gives you a bonus like deckfixing or something like shortcut/four fingers, drunkard, etc

[onyx juniper]

ok

[tight hinge]

Not sure how it’s passive and not utility yet

We’ll see