Balatro Mod Manager is now out! 🎉

[cunning matrix]

It would be problematic to implement that, cuz of API restrictions

[granite path]

?

[uneven leaf]

I've removed the version and left only automatic-version-check true👌

[winged kite]

Nobody really puts their mods on either of the two so there would be nothing to pull.

[desert meadow]

yeah there are very few mods i get from nexus or gamebanana (and those ones tend to be a bit lower quality)

[glass sleet]

well, at least nexus isnt the primary index

that would make balatro modding really tedious, if my experience with modding fallout new vegas is an accurate experience

[winged kite]

I wouldn't want to require everyone to make an account on a website to even download a mod.

[glass sleet]

i forgot about that 💀

[desert meadow]

i have like 2 or 3 balatro mods from nexus but none of them wouldve been worth making an account
i just had one already cause of stardew valley

[cunning matrix]

It works really well ngl

[cunning matrix]

aight I'm gonna kms

[granite path]

thats the issue we have now lol

and its easier to get people to put mods on a mod website than submitting them to the mod manager

also it scales better

[cunning matrix]

With all due respect, nah

[granite path]

it like

does tho

im not telling you you have to do it im just explaining why i was asking why you didnt already lol

[vagrant plover]

But it's not?

You'd have to make an account, learn the mod website, make sure the mod website has the latest lovely+steamodded

[cerulean rain]

yeah they're pretty similar in difficulty. we try to make it simple at ts but even still it takes some getting used to

github is convenient since most devs here are used to it by now

[granite path]

why would you have to make sure the website has the latest lovely/steamodded lol

[vagrant plover]

Because otherwise you'd still be pointing people to github anyway to get lovely/steamodded?

I'm not against using a mod collection site like thunderstore or gamebanana, I've actually asked multiple times if we as a modding community could start using such a thing

but I don't really see the point in uploading my mod to such a site if the modloader(s) aren't on it

[cerulean rain]

I keep lovely updated on Thunderstore but I don't mention it much because of my massive conflict of interest.

[granite path]

i feel like it matters significantly more if the modding community uses it than if the mod loaders are available there

you only have to download mod loaders once so it doesnt matter as much

[vagrant plover]

smods updates basically every day and has had breaking changes multiple times 😭

not really "only download once" kinda modloader haha

[granite path]

i havent ever updated it lol

does it have like an auto update feature

[vagrant plover]

must've downloaded it pretty recently then haha

no

[granite path]

a month or two ago

[granite path]

seems kinda weird

i feel like it should just have that in general but especially if its updating so frequently

[vagrant plover]

impressive, sounds like you're not using mods that need the latest smods

[granite path]

guess not

[vagrant plover]

one of my mods would literally not load on your smods version

[granite path]

damn

im mainly just using like malverk and brainstorm and stuff

[vagrant plover]

oh yeah lovely stuff don't usually need updates

[granite path]

is malverk a lovely mod?

[winged kite]

SMODS has at least been trying to move away from relying on everyone using main over releases, it's just that for all of alpha there was no rc releases and everyone's just used to that.

[granite path]

im on 1416a

[vagrant plover]

isn't that less than a month old?

[vagrant plover]

ye

[desert meadow]

no but in the cryptid server there is a guide to autoupdate github things

[granite path]

idk

[winged kite]

16th of feb is less than a month old

[granite path]

oh i reset my computer semi recently so i probably updated without realizing

[desert meadow]

cause cryptid needs more updated steamodded than even the "latest release"

[vagrant plover]

Anyway, all of that is my reason why I don't upload stuff to modding sites. I'm assuming other mod devs have similar issues. And if nobody uploads them to those sites, there's no real reason for skyline to pull from those sites

[granite path]

i get that but right now its pulling from kind of nowhere so i was a little confused

(also the scaling thing)

[vagrant plover]

It's pulling from github, which is a really well established platform for developers, not for casual gamers 😅

also you're completely right on the scaling thing but yea 🤷‍♂️

[granite path]

i meant nowhere as in like not a centralized place

i mean really anywhere other than a discord forum is nice tbh

[desert meadow]

closest thing is the mod wiki

[desert meadow]

tbh modding balatro isnt realy for casual gamers cause of lovely anyway

[cunning matrix]

@vagrant plover could you do something for me rq

[granite path]

idk if lovely is that intimidating lol

[cerulean rain]

it's not that difficult 😭

[cunning matrix]

Could you try the latest version of BMM from the main branch for me? I included local mod detection now

I can also prebuild it for you if you want

[granite path]

dont you just like put the files in a place and then run the game thats pretty standard for modding

[desert meadow]

it can be tricky to whitelist lovely

sometimes

[cerulean rain]

ya that's the worst part

fair

[granite path]

like the windows defender thing?

[cerulean rain]

I've got the cert, just need to update the release workflow.

tis a bit complicated

[cunning matrix]

how much did u pay

be honest

[granite path]

i didnt have any issues with that so idk

[vagrant plover]

if you could prebuild it for me I'd appreciate it, don't really feel like grabbing rust, deno etc

[cunning matrix]

aight wait

[cerulean rain]

free! I'll share the site that I used when I get home

you need to apply for it n stuff

but it's meant for oss projects

[cunning matrix]

no way

[desert meadow]

ye but also you have to disable any antivirus programs temporarily or you cant download
at least i had to do that

[cunning matrix]

send it to me please

I need it so bad

I'm hungry for it

[vagrant plover]

bro's down bad

[cerulean rain]

haha I'll send it in a little bit

we're getting our certs in order at thunderstore and I almost wanted to use one of them for lovely

since I was pretty desperate

but it would've been weird since this is a very much non work project lmao

[cunning matrix]

I feel that so bad

[granite path]

i will say if youre going to use a mod website PLEASE make it gamebanana 🙏

[desert meadow]

unless there is one i dont know about, i agree completely

[granite path]

thunderstore sucks and nexus sucks like 10x as much

[cerulean rain]

https://about.signpath.io/product/open-source

I'll DM you my application for reference, it wasn't too hard

[granite path]

i actually dont think i know of a game with a good modding scene that doesnt use gamebanana (other than proprietary stuff and steam workshop)

celeste is like the peak of modding communities

[desert meadow]

idk what the gamebanana for stardew valley looks like

[desert meadow]

true

[granite path]

nintendo games like ssbu are about as good as they can be for nintendo games

pizza tower is also about as good as it can be for being sentenced to only 1 mod at a time

[cerulean rain]

Bethesda games on nexus

[desert meadow]

stardew valley has almost nothing on gamebanana

[granite path]

thats like double awful

wow

[cerulean rain]

Hang on there's a lot of cool stuff happening in the Skyrim modding scene

But I'm biased since that's how I started making mods n such

[granite path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779349159852769313/1308209770502553620/IMG_5730.gif

[cerulean rain]

The Stalker community on moddb is always coming up with cool stuff

[granite path]

i think mods being good and mod communities being good are different

like lethal company has cool mods but the modding scene as a whole is kinda fucked up

[cunning matrix]

Thanks

[cunning matrix]

New version guyss: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.2.0

[glass sleet]

now i finally have an excuse to update

[cunning matrix]

let me know how it went out!

[cold ridge]

How do I fix this?

[tranquil sage]

Local mod detection woot!

[glass sleet]

uhhh do i need to delete a file and restart i forgot

[cunning matrix]

bmm_storage.db in %AppData%/Balatro

[cunning matrix]

Install Steamodded via the mod manager

[glass sleet]

ok there we go

[cunning matrix]

how's it?

[glass sleet]

good stuff

i accidentally deleted sofanthiel tho i gotta put em back into my trance install

lmao

[cunning matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-tuco-tight-gif-5526686

[tranquil sage]

Yeah it's pretty much all nexus with a few files hosted on external sites. Just for the love of god don't use the mod manager nexus provides.
Stardew is best done manually with Stardrop being the mod manager I'd still recommend.

[desert meadow]

yeah

besides, nexus mod manager is practically useless if you dont want to spend money

[tranquil sage]

Yup. It causes more headache than it helps even if you do pay for it.

[desert meadow]

i should get around to moving my stardew mods to my new pc

[cold ridge]

I have the mods installed but they are not showing in the game, does anyone know why this is happening to me?😪

[cunning matrix]

"Validate Database" Button in the settings

[desert meadow]

those are malverk dependent mods, go to options and then textures

[ocean meadow]

You might be able to have that as an option when installing a new version of the manager

[glass sleet]

oh it's beautiful

[ocean meadow]

to delete the old database

Also it probably makes more sense to display the Mod Manager Catalog mods before the Local Mods under Installed Mods

[worn hound]

KSP uses git/forums for the most part, minecraft used to be forums, now curseforge/modrinth, lethal company has thunderstore, space engineers has mod.io, I've never seen a modding community that used gamebanana tbh, haven't been able to figure out the ui either, feels like an obtuse mess, but maybe it's more organized for some games? also couldn't find any dependency management or anything, would love to have another platform to poke though :/

[winged kite]

ooh I know mod.io for Core Keeper

[worn hound]

Though I guess sandboxy things are more liable to have odd infrastructure

[glass sleet]

celeste uses gamebanana

[hazy ferry]

FNF too

[ebon gorge]

my game is crashing every time i try an run it

[wheat wave]

Can you provide more information? Are you seeing an error message with the crash? What have you installed?

[winged kite]

Cryptid's depending on a SMODS dev version.

Not the release version

Was worried this would happen if we just blindly switch to releases and couldn't pick between release and main install

Actually can you do that?

[wheat wave]

Try switching to this version instead

[winged kite]

Ok awesome you can

[ebon gorge]

how do I get that menu?

[wheat wave]

You should see it if you click on Steamodded on here #1339375696254074942 message

[wheat wave]

Cool. Click the red garbage can icon to uninstall the current version first, then click the dropdown box that appears

[desert meadow]

oh that seems much nicer lol

i just did it manually and then followed the instructions in the cryptid server for an update script

[red sand]

installed the manager and converted a few things to the manager, but now every time i boot up i get this. anything i can do to get this fixed?

[cunning matrix]

You should remove the version.dll from %AppData%/Balatro. The launcher will auto install the latest version for you when you click the launch-button

[wheat wave]

I've thrown up a PR now to set automatic-version-check for all remaining mods and fix an issue with the automatic version checker

[red sand]

yeah, i thankfully was able to get this working, so i appreciate that

i did the manual re-install of lovely but ill keep that in mind for the future

[wheat wave]

Will need your review and approval. Also seems like the json validator can't handle more than about 12 file changes at once, and throws up its hands in confusion

[wheat wave]

Awesome job on the last couple of updates, by the way. The updater feature just works seamlessly and is super handy, and recognising the manually installed mods from both meta.json and the old Steamodded comment header style is a massive improvement to usability.

[uneven leaf]

Im very confused: I've even released a new version on my github repo but the version I install from mod manager still doesnt have all vouchers

???

[worn hound]

Probably a delay to avoid getting ratelimited?

[vagrant plover]

is this about the commit from 3 minutes ago?

cuz the index updates only once every hour to avoid ratelimits

[vagrant plover]

I mean there are some pretty bad bugs in the release version currently that are already fixed on main, there probably should've been a new release version already

(which multiple people have also asked for btw)

[uneven leaf]

No, the voucher was in like since mod released in public

[vagrant plover]

according to your code, these are the vouchers you load

  vouchers = {
    list = {
      "tag_hunter",
      "hashtag_skip"
    },
    directory = 'vouchers/'
  },

and they are also the ones I see in-game

[uneven leaf]

Wierd cuz they worked on my end

Thanks for informing

Mb I forgot to update that part of the code on github

[vagrant plover]

all gucci

[wheat wave]

Issues like the one above could also be caused by the way the latest version is determined by the update_mod_versions.py script currently.
If a release version is present, it will use the name of the tag from the latest release - otherwise it will use the first 6 characters of the latest commit SHA for the version.
This will be a problem for mods using a link to archive/refs/heads/<main>.zip but which have also created a Release previously, as the version stored on the mod index won't change until a new Release is created even if there are new commits to HEAD.

The simplest fix is probably to change the script to check if the downloadURL link points to the GitHub HEAD, and to use the commit version if so

Might make a PR after dinner if Skyline hasn't beaten me to it

[cunning matrix]

The current implementation of the updater is very slow. I was thinking about making it async / multithreaded

[wheat wave]

Seems like it only takes about 20s on a typical run, but it is hitting the API limit which is very surprising

Have you set up the token properly?

[cunning matrix]

How is the token related? It couldn‘t make any requests if it didn‘t exist

[wheat wave]

When i ran the script on my machine, when it couldn't determine the token it still worked but failed after 60 accesses

[cunning matrix]

Of course it wouldn‘t work. The token is a secret environment variable on GitHub

[wheat wave]

Yes mate, I'm replying to this

The script still works even if the token is invalid, it just doesn't use it for authentication and it runs into the unauthenticated 60-per-hour limit.

Manually setting my own token in the script allowed it to exceed the unauthenticated limit

[cunning matrix]

Yeah that‘s weird

I mean the token is set

[feral osprey]

does loading mods usually take long?

nvm they js loaded

[sweet bloom]

yeah me too i take long like 30 minutee to load mod

[feral osprey]

took me 2 mins dawg

also the mod manager doesnt have gen's almanac

jen's*

[sweet bloom]

i know don't why i take that long

[wheat wave]

Do you have any other projects that would be contributing to the 5,000 requests per hour, possibly?

Might be worth adding some checks to see how fast it's being consumed
https://docs.github.com/en/rest/using-the-rest-api/rate-limits-for-the-rest-api?apiVersion=2022-11-28#checking-the-status-of-your-rate-limit

[vagrant plover]

Jen has stated before he does not want his mod on the manager

[feral osprey]

oh thats reasonable

[wheat wave]

limit = response.headers['x-ratelimit-limit']
used = response.headers['x-ratelimit-used']
reset_time = datetime.fromtimestamp(int(response.headers['x-ratelimit-reset'])).strftime('%H:%M:%S')
resource = response.headers['x-ratelimit-resource']
print(f"GitHub API ({resource}) calls: {used}/{limit} (Resets {reset_time})")

[vagrant plover]

wait does github not have a webpage to view that?

[wheat wave]

Unauthenticated:
GitHub API (core) calls: 60/60 (Resets 21:49:49)
Authenticated:
GitHub API (core) calls: 3/5000 (Resets 22:30:41)
There's almost definitely something wrong with the authentication if it's hitting the API limit

[wheat wave]

In a sense the REST response is just a... very very very simple webpage?

[vagrant plover]

true I guess haha

[wheat wave]

Then again, it might not be hitting the rate limit at all, and there might be some other cause for the 403 errors

No, nevermind, it's definitely hitting the rate limit

[vagrant plover]

My guess is that GITHUB_TOKEN = os.environ.get('GITHUB_TOKEN') doesn't work? not sure though

[wheat wave]

I'm not sure if it's that, considering it has mostly been running fine until the last few hours.
The first limit hit was run #32 14 hours ago
Then every hour for the last 4 hours:
Run #42, run #43, run #44, run #45

[vagrant plover]

It seemed more likely to me that the token was being read incorrectly rather than it hitting some sort of (secondary) rate limit since it's not getting defined in the workflow environment https://docs.github.com/en/actions/writing-workflows/workflow-syntax-for-github-actions#jobsjob_idenvironment
But I'm really just shooting in the dark tbh

[cunning matrix]

@wheat wave could you check the script and the workflow? I am currently not at home. I don‘t think it causes any problems

[cunning matrix]

No

[cunning matrix]

It depends on your internet connection

[wheat wave]

I haven't found any obvious issues yet, i'm working on a couple of features that might help diagnose the issue better, and reduce the likelihood of running into secondary rate limiting

[sweet bloom]

Thank you bro

[wheat wave]

#113

[wheat wave]

Also thinking a little more, it's possible that this is actually the problem. The rate limits started being triggered after PR #112 when ~50 more mods had automatic-version-check enabled - before this, there were less than 60 mods being version checked and so the rate limit wouldn't have been hit in a single run

[cunning matrix]

@wheat wave your theory is confirmed: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/actions/runs/13789164383/job/38564265830

[wheat wave]

Hooray! Another problem to fix

[cunning matrix]

No idea, why it wouldn't work tho. Do I have to set environment secrets too?

[wheat wave]

Not sure, i've never dug that deep into GitHub before. I'll see what i can find online

From what i've read, GITHUB_TOKEN should be built-in and doesn't need to be manually defined, but might need to be provided through the environment variables to the python runner in the workflow file. Something like:

jobs:
  use_api:
    permissions: {}
    steps:
      - env:
          GITHUB_TOKEN: ${{ secrets.GITHUB_TOKEN }}
        run: |
          python .github/scripts/update_mod_versions.py

If that doesn't work, then defining your own token in environment secrets and providing it in the same way might do the trick?

[cunning matrix]

Could you do a PR to the update-version-bot branch

[wheat wave]

I think it might be

      - name: Update mod versions
        env:
          GITHUB_TOKEN: ${{ github.token }}  
        run: |
          python .github/scripts/update_mod_versions.py

No ability to test it in the time I have, but worth a shot

Heyo, looks like it worked. Happy to see that magic number 5000

[cunning matrix]

but

Run git config --global user.name 'Version Update Bot'
  git config --global user.name 'Version Update Bot'
  git config --global user.email '[e-mail]'
  
  if [[ $(git status --porcelain) ]]; then
    COMMIT_MSG="Auto-update mod versions"
    if [ -f commit_message.txt ]; then
      COMMIT_MSG=$(cat commit_message.txt)
    fi
    
    git add mods/*/meta.json
    git commit -m "$COMMIT_MSG"
    # Using the PAT_TOKEN with the default token URL format
    git push
  else
    echo "No changes to commit"
  shell: /usr/bin/bash -e {0}
  env:
    pythonLocation: /opt/hostedtoolcache/Python/3.10.16/x64
    PKG_CONFIG_PATH: /opt/hostedtoolcache/Python/3.10.16/x64/lib/pkgconfig
    Python_ROOT_DIR: /opt/hostedtoolcache/Python/3.10.16/x64
    Python2_ROOT_DIR: /opt/hostedtoolcache/Python/3.10.16/x64
    Python3_ROOT_DIR: /opt/hostedtoolcache/Python/3.10.16/x64
    LD_LIBRARY_PATH: /opt/hostedtoolcache/Python/3.10.16/x64/lib
/home/runner/work/_temp/0d0216ab-4a3d-44dd-befc-d0bfa42b9afe.sh: line 16: syntax error: unexpected end of file

What kind of syntax?

I fixed it

Shouldn't we make this async tho?

for ✨ better performance ✨?

But it works now

[wheat wave]

For public repos, GitHub doesn't limit the runtime of actions, only the number of API requests, so performance absolutely doesn't matter. Even if you did, you'd be dropping typical runtime from 60s to maybe 10s. You'd also risk running into another dreaded API limit: concurrent calls.

[cunning matrix]

Right

[wheat wave]

Personally, i've only ever dealt with the pain of threading and async where absolutely necessary, and this doesn't feel like one of those places imo. But if you think it would be a fun challenge, no harm in trying!

(GitHub recommends not trying)

I'm out for now, should be back in a day or two

[cunning matrix]

Thanks for your help

[vagrant plover]

Woo called it, somehow, haha

[wintry veldt]

Is there a link to submit stuff for the index?

[desert falcon]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

[wintry veldt]

Ty

[cunning matrix]

@vagrant plover can you talk rq

I'm working on your issue

[cunning matrix]

New strawberry like look

[fluid kayak]

[desert meadow]

damb now the meme i was gonna make until google slides decided to not accept my png image of a celeste strawberry wont seem original
ig now i dont have to figure out how to fix it

[fluid kayak]

sorry are you makign memes in google slides

[winged kite]

Honestly power to them

[cunning matrix]

New release guyss: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.2.1

[desert meadow]

i dont know any other viable free image editors

[fluid kayak]

i use https://www.photopea.com/

[desert meadow]

someone suggested that and it is too much for my brain to comprehend rn

for how low quality the things i do are, this is the first time slides has ever dissapointed me

and i feel like it is probably a bug

[worn hound]

Shocked that you figured out how to assemble things in slides instead of literally any image editer

As in that seems way more difficult to pull off to be clear

[desert meadow]

its because thats what i grew up with (originally powerpoint but then my main thing was a chromebook)

[uncut fable]

Hello yes how long has this existed I am here now

[uncut fable]

When I told the manager to update my installed mods to the Official versions with the buttons it didn't remove Cryptid-Main folder, but did add Cryptid folder, resulting in trying to load two Cryptid at the same time. I did fix this but it was VERY confusing at first.

[waxen ether]

i forgor 💀

[cunning matrix]

Start cooking then

[cunning matrix]

When can I expect a PR (or any commit)

[waxen ether]

next week

[round arch]

yay I'm getting bombarded with Update Mod Version workflow run failed on main branch caused by my fork of balatro-mod-index

[wheat wave]

Yeah, make sure to disable the workflow in your fork

[round arch]

how do I do that 💀

[round arch]

this won't affect PRs right?

cool

[cunning matrix]

@worthy solstice update the mod manager goddamnit

stop using v0.1.4

[worthy solstice]

i will later, promise

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[wheat wave]

#118 should fix this problem for everyone going forward

[round arch]

nice

[wheat wave]

It's not ideal and will prevent people from deliberately running the version update bot on their own forks, but it's the best tool GitHub currently provides for scheduled jobs

Other events have better granularity - if it were an event like on pull_request, we could just check if the PAT_TOKEN were defined and not run the job, but there's currently no way to set up an env to check that before a scheduled job starts

@cunning matrix If you trust me, i've tested #118 on my own fork to confirm the repo check works properly, should be good to go

Just keep it in mind if you ever change your username or the name of the mod index repo

[cunning matrix]

@wheat wave merged

[versed socket]

When updating our mod, do we just change the download url in the mod index and make a new PR ?

[wheat wave]

Yep, that's one way to do it.
If you're happy to instead use a generic name for your release .zip and always name them the same thing (like BalaQuints.zip), then you can instead rely on GitHub's automatic latest release link:
"downloadURL": "https://github.com/Luuumine/BalaQuints/releases/latest/download/BalaQuints.zip",
and set "automatic-version-check": true,
Then the mod index will automatically update the version number when it detects a new release, and it should just work forever after

[versed socket]

I prefer to use verion numbering in the zip file name, so I'll stick with changing the link, thanks!

[wheat wave]

No worries, I'm doing the same currently too. At some point I might try and extend the auto-updater a little further to automatically populate the downloadURL field too

[versed socket]

Updated my mod (https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1342187005244866700), finally decided to use that thing, thanks

[storm oasis]

i just installed this, and it wiped my account? even if i open the game through steam directly it won't have all my old progress. any suggestions on a fix?

[vagrant plover]

cannot reproduce btw

(the mod manager properly deleted the Cryptid-main folder and replaced it with the correct Cryptid folder)

[wheat wave]

When you look in AppData/Roaming, do you see multiple folders for Balatro?

[uncut fable]

I'm assuming it's because that was the very first time I'd used the manager and it like. Didn't recognize it that one time? I have not had this problem occur again now that I'm just using the manager, so chasing it down is probably not a high priority.

[vagrant plover]

Hmm, weird

[wheat wave]

Something in the folder might have been in-use and BMM failed to delete it

[storm oasis]

i only see the one folder for it

will i have to reset my data if i want to play modded?

[vagrant plover]

do you have cryptid installed by any chance?

[storm oasis]

through the installer, yeah

[vagrant plover]

Cryptid "deleted" your savefile

it's a safety measure to make sure your savefile doesn't become corrupted or otherwise mangled

[storm oasis]

ah, that makes sense. so will i have to start from scratch if i want to play cryptid?

[vagrant plover]

if you'd like to continue on your current savefile, go to %appdata%/balatro. You should see two folders there, 1 and M1, correct?

[storm oasis]

yup, i see them both

[vagrant plover]

Perfect. Just copy and paste (no moving, copy-pasting) the meta.jkr and profile.jkr from folder 1 to M1

[storm oasis]

all fixed. thanks for the help!

[wheat wave]

I thought Cryptid already did copy 1 to M1 to create it, has that changed or am i losing touch with reality?

[vagrant plover]

I can't confirm nor deny that last part of your question, but I also thought cryptid would make a copy from 1 to M1 🤔

[wheat wave]

Just checked my Cryptid install from a month ago and the stats are totally different from my main save, seems like it's a fresh profile. I've been telling people the wrong thing for the last month, whoops

[vagrant plover]

huh doesn't look like it does

I'll ask around in the cryptid discord

[vagrant plover]

was apparently never the case according to math

[wheat wave]

I am losing touch with reality and all is right with the world

[round arch]

definitely a fresh profile

when Cryptid >=0.5.4 is installed and run for the first time, you get greeted by Joseph J. Joker

that's the sign of a fresh profile, telling you to choose a gameset

[spare depot]

need some help

[wheat wave]

2: Maximus
    Has Steamodded mod that failed to load.
    Missing Dependencies:
        1. Steamodded (>=1.0.0~ALPHA-1428f-STEAMODDED)
3: Cryptid
    Has Steamodded mod that failed to load.
    Missing Dependencies:
        1. Steamodded (>=1.0.0~BETA-0308a)

You'll need a newer version of Steamodded. If you don't see an Update button in BMM, make sure to update to the latest BMM version first

[vagrant plover]

did you just update BMM?

[spare depot]

I did

[vagrant plover]

maybe try deleting bmm_storage.db?

[spare depot]

where would that be?

[vagrant plover]

%appdata%/balatro

[wheat wave]

Yep, this is the same root issue that Divvy's mods have (#1339375696254074942 message), where one feature-mod is split up into multiple dependent mod folders. A few possible solutions:

1. Devs could make BMM-specific single-mod versions where all libraries and dependencies are included as a single mod with a single folder. Seeing as how both Divvy's and Toeler's mods are pretty small (< 50kb), this wouldn't be a bad solution for end-users, but would require a lot more work from the devs in restructuring their mods in a way they might not like, or creating and maintaining two parallel versions of all of their mods.

2. BMM could a implement a full mod dependency system, either by parsing the mod .json files or by hardcoding it into the index entries. Then devs wanting to distribute multiple mods would have to create separate index entries for each of their component mods (e.g. DVPreview, DVSimulate, DVSettings). This would be slightly less convenient for users and more work for mod devs, along with another major feature for Skyline to find time for.

3. BMM could try and implement a "smart" mod folder structure interpreter and extract mods into separate folders when there are multiple folders that contain key files. I'm not sure how you'd go about doing this in a totally bulletproof way. It would also be likely to break if Lovely or Steamodded ever change the way they load and interpret mods, along with being another highly-specific nuisance feature for Skyline to maintain.

4. Lovely could implement recursive mod loading so that nested folders won't matter at all, and everything can just be installed in whatever structure the mod devs want. This would be... good for everyone?

[worn hound]

Bettma's mods work just fine from their subfolders, and show up as seperate listings in-game, is there some trick to how that works for them?

And oddly enough BMM sees them as separete mods when installed locally (or ya know, deleting the database with it installed)

[wheat wave]

From what i know, Lovely will only load patch files that match Mods/*/lovely.toml and Mods/*/lovely/*.toml, whereas Steamodded will recursively search for and load any *.lua files with the old comment-style header.
Bettma's mods use one unified lovely folder in the BetmmaMods directory, and the subdirs contain only old smods .lua files and assets

BetmmaMods
├───5_legendary_challenges
├───Betmma_Abilities
│   ├───assets
│   │   ├───1x
│   │   └───2x
│   └───shaders
├───Betmma_Jokers
│   └───assets
│       ├───1x
│       └───2x
├───Betmma_Spells
│   └───assets
│       ├───1x
│       └───2x
├───Betmma_Vouchers
│   ├───assets
│   │   ├───1x
│   │   └───2x
│   └───shaders
├───Betmma_Voucher_Pack
│   └───assets
│       ├───1x
│       └───2x
├───Better_Vouchers_This_Run_UI
└───lovely

This is probably the neatest way to organise a feature mod with lots of sub-mods, but the structure wouldn't work for mods like Divvy's where DVSettings is a fully separate library that all of his other mods depend on but don't include

[quartz veldt]

I swear every time I open this thread there's like a new version of BMM available

[uncut fable]

Wait does BMM not update itself

[versed socket]

Could also be interesting to have an "update all" button (or regular sync) that updates all mods

[versed socket]

about that:
if i enable automatic version check, the mod index can gather version number from the tag numbering so i wouldn’t need to update the version myself?

[wheat wave]

Yep, that's exactly how it works. Once every hour the update bot checks all mods to see if their version is different from the one stored on the index, and updates the version in the meta.json if so.
Then when BMM downloads the index, if the version on the index is different from the version on-disk, it'll change the download button to an Update button

[versed socket]

nice, thanks for the info

[timber elk]

Every combo of mods including SMOD I try keeps hitting this after I updated BMM. I'm not code-y enough to tell where the issue is 😦
Any help would be appreciated (this is the crash with my full mod loadout)

[thin dust]

Something is trying to use table (omeganum) but is actually a number (vanilla)

[versed socket]

may be a problem with loading a normal run with talisman or the opposite ?

[thin dust]

Unsure

[timber elk]

Cool, I can add "Can crash software in mysterious ways" to my resume

[timber elk]

and since I can at least troubleshoot, it's not this. I've tried new runs and a complete reinstall lol

[wheat wave]

Best approach might be to just start removing mods until it stops crashing, then work your way back up until you can work out the culprit

If you work it out, please let us know

[tidal hedge]

That looks like talisman working it’s big number crap into places it shouldn’t be doing

[worn hound]

If it's a number that goes up it only makes sense, think they applied it to money and something else, though it does seem crazy to get e308 money in the first place

Looks like Deluxe Consumables tried to create an Editioned planet in the shop and something freaked out, so probably not Talisman's fault actually

Might be bad interaction with Paperback, possibly it's Dichrome edition? Can't be too certain but that's what the stacktrace seems to indicate

Oh right this is why I uninstalled dx consumables huh

[tidal hedge]

No this is saying the edition chance modifier has been turned into a big number, it’s a number that only needs to go up to 20 before it doesn’t make any difference. It’s either some bad code calling poll edition or some talisman sorcery

[timber elk]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I did actually try almost every combination of mods, but it was crashing even with all the "unnecessary" (everything but background math) mods removed lol. but totally possible the crash error changed and I didn't notice by the like 20th attempt lol.
But I'll definitely report back if I figure it out! Thanks y'all ❤️

[timber elk]

So I guess solution, but no clear explanation.

Fiddled around for a while with everyone's suggestions. The fix was disabling/uninstalling deluxe consumables AND disabling editions on all the mods manually. I had no idea why tho
So a quick break to cry and make a bad choice about weed later; I wondered if it was like... something deluxe was doing on install? So I reinstalled everything from scratch but just without deluxe at all. And I can use mod editions just fine. Installed deluxe again, started a run until crash, then uninstalled it — can't use editions again, gotta disable them.
So I dunno wtf deluxe is doing, but it's sure doing something! That I would prefer it not. 🥰

I also have no idea how any of this related to the fact this only started after I updated BMM. Anyways thank y'all for the help I'm just going to stay far away from Deluxe consumables lol

[tidal hedge]

Oh I see how it’s doing it

It’s 100% the fault of talisman for making hand levels into a big number and then it interacts with dx tarots in this way causing the crash

[worn hound]

It can't be 100% talismans fault if dx tarot is colliding with it after uninstall csn it?

It's permanently editing something else's files for some reason I guess

[tidal hedge]

Talisman jank persists through uninstalling, you’d need to test on a new save

[worn hound]

Talisman is making dx tarot's collision persist after removing dx? That's bizarre
But also they fixed it by reinstalling their modlist, so save file seems unrelated?

[tidal hedge]

I could look further but it’s something that dx tarots is setting that is normally fine except talisman has turned it into a big number so it crashes

[gaunt wave]

hey so i got a problem, to put it basically, i already got rid of a mod, but it persists in the mod manager, problem is i cant remove it because i get an error associated with the fact that the file isnt there, but also i cant install it because the mod manager thinks its already installed

no idea if im missing something or manager is just being jank but nothing has worked so far

[cunning matrix]

Settings -> "Validate Database"

[gaunt wave]

thanks

[wheat wave]

Now that validation doesn't delete anything, would there be any risk in just performing a validation automatically when an error like this happens?

[cunning matrix]

I mean… not reall

I could implement it

[vagrant plover]

Was actually gonna suggest performing validation on BMM start

[uncut fable]

I have been exclusively using the mod manager to grab mods since this 👆 last happened, and I've somehow ended up with two copies of Steamodded after updating it today.
However, I believe what happened is twofold: I told the manager to delete and reinstall Steamodded last night as part of troubleshooting an unrelated issue, and when I look in my mods folder just now after a "you have two Steamodded!", the folders have two different names, one with -smods-121382e on it.
This makes me think this is a hiccup on Steamodded's end? I'm just dropping both and doing a fresh grab on Steamodded.

[fiery cairn]

Hey lads, I'm getting an error when trying to open the mod manager, how do i fix? It's just an error window that pops open:

Microsoft Edge can't read and write to it's data directory:

...\AppData\Local\com.balatro-mod-manager.app\EBWebView```
And then the app is just a white screen and doesnt do anything
When i create the folder in that directory it doesnt give the error but still does nothing on the white screen

[keen wharf]

Hello! Im currently having an issue where when I upgraded to the newest version I keep getting this error, I dont really know what stuff means but I keep getting this error message. Whats the solution?

[wheat wave]

Delete the bmm_storage.db file in %AppData%/Balatro. You should probably do this whenever you update to a newer version of BMM

[keen wharf]

I just figured that out as you sent it thanks so much!

[zinc plaza]

oh ok

[cunning matrix]

New website guys: https://balatro-mod-manager.dasguney.com/

[warm stag]

Question: How can one add their own mod to the list?

(@cunning matrix)

[cunning matrix]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

[warm stag]

Got ya.

[white jay]

downloaded the version of Cryptid Mod & Steamodded currently listed in the mod manager and they are stating to be incompatible with eachother, not sure where i should put this tbh, hoping here is the correct place 😅 SOLVED TY

[ocean meadow]

Uninstall Steamodded, and make sure when you reinstall it, that 'latest' is selected in the dropdown

[white jay]

aha thank you

[cunning matrix]

New release guys: https://balatro-mod-manager.dasguney.com/download

[worn hound]

The way the bottom box acts like a viewport on mobile is so funny

Wee scrolly and slidey box

[quartz rock]

skyline im so sorry but the link for downloadurl in challengerdeep's meta.json is wrong again 😭

[cunning matrix]

how dare you

change it now

[quartz rock]

it should be /latest/download/ChallengerDeep.zip instead of just /latest/ChallengerDeep.zip

[cunning matrix]

PR

[quartz rock]

aye aye

[wheat wave]

New website is looking extremely polished, great work!

[wheat wave]

I've got a feature request: is it possible to make the pagination/page selectors automatically switch pages when trying to scroll past the limits of the current page? Hope that makes sense

Also related but separate, would be good if the scroll would reset to the top of the page when the page is changed

[cunning matrix]

Add those 2 things to a PR so I don't forget to implement it

[sudden timber]

any idea why virustotal is flagging the .exe file on your website as malware?

[wheat wave]

Bkav and Crowdstrike both use AI heuristics and are responsible for a lot of false positives. The Kaskersky hit is new, though

[sudden timber]

gotcha, would like some insight into kaskersky though

[vagrant plover]

I mean the more interesting part would honestly be lovely's version.dll, that BMM also installs

[sudden timber]

isnt this because technically it is "injecting" code into another app

[vagrant plover]

Yes

[sudden timber]

yeah i just wanted a similar explanation on the flag i highlighted

[vagrant plover]

Ah

I'm guessing it's just kaspersky not liking Rust compiled exes

https://forum.kaspersky.com/topic/kaspersky-is-detecting-rust-compiled-executables-as-trojans-35066/

[sudden timber]

interesting, i uploaded the .exe on their opentip website

lets see what it turns up

Have submitted the .exe for reanalysis on whether or not it is a FP

[worn hound]

Suspicious activity and clean files, that sounds like a compliment lmao

[wheat wave]

If you don't trust the setup .exe, it's also relatively easy (if time-consuming) to build it yourself.

    ____  __  _____  ___            ____           __        ____
   / __ )/  |/  /  |/  /           /  _/___  _____/ /_____ _/ / /
  / __  / /|_/ / /|_/ /  ______    / // __ \/ ___/ __/ __  / / /
 / /_/ / /  / / /  / /  /_____/  _/ // / / (__  ) /_/ /_/ / / /
/_____/_/  /_/_/  /_/           /___/_/ /_/____/\__/\__,_/_/_/
```1. Install Git from <https://git-scm.com/downloads/win>
2. Install Rust from <https://www.rust-lang.org/tools/install>
3. Install Deno with PowerShell command
```ps1
irm https://deno.land/install.ps1 | iex
```4. Install Tauri CLI with `cargo install tauri-cli`
5. Run the BMM build script with PowerShell command 
```ps1
iwr "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/main/scripts/install.ps1" -useb | iex

[void grove]

Friend, can the tool support multiple languages?

[ocean meadow]

I believe it's only available in English currently

[sudden timber]

oh no, i trust that it is safe, im just trying to get it set as an FP on virustotal so other people dont see this and go 🤨

[sudden timber]

appreciate this, thank you

[sudden timber]

:)

[wheat wave]

Wow, that is an incredibly fast turnaround time

[narrow prism]

out of curiosity, how are mods added to the mod list? its through another github no? not cuz i wanna add any, but to know if more mods will be added

[quartz rock]

they’re added through pull requests to https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

[vagrant plover]

Nice job haha

[worn hound]

A way to see new additions to the index in-manager might be neat, but that also sounds a bit complicated

[cunning matrix]

In the upcoming version, you'll be able to drag and drop mods directly into the mod manager

[vagrant plover]

oh hey that's pretty cool

[plain turret]

Hey, is profiles with different mods a planned feature?

[vagrant plover]

Certainly been suggested before https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/issues/47 and if I remember correctly Skyline said it's a planned feature

[plain turret]

ah ok that's awesome, definitely looking forward to that

[wary depot]

will there be an update button in the launcher, or does downloading the new update keep my mods

[wheat wave]

Updating BMM will keep the mods, yes. You should also delete the bmm_storage.db file in %AppData%/Balatro when you update BMM, which will just allow BMM to refresh it's own internal database but also won't affect the mods you have installed

[cunning matrix]

No need in the newer version anymore

[tardy fox]

So I'm completely new to this, is the Mod Manager like the equivalent of the Steam Workshop where I can just click on a mod and go about playing it or is there more to it than I need to know beforehand?

[sudden timber]

it helps you install mods more easily

you cant "play" the mod from the mod manager

it just adds it to your mods folder for balatro and enables the mod next time you open it

[tardy fox]

Ahhhhh okay okay, thanks for the clarification
I figured I'd ask just in case

[sudden timber]

yup all good

[cunning matrix]

You can just install mods and play balatro with mods through it easily

[tardy fox]

I'll have to give it a whirl tonight

[tardy fox]

@cunning matrix oh my god this thing is amazing :0

Works like a damn charm :D

[cunning matrix]

New version released: https://balatro-mod-manager.dasguney.com/download

(might feel faster now)

[uncut arrow]

Question if you don't mind me asking, do you plan to make a Linux version? I still can't figure out how to install it with the manual installation.

[cunning matrix]

I'm currently working on Linux support, but the biggest issue with linux is the browser itself. Webkitgtk2 is a very very shitty browser and it's the main one which is being used for Tauri

[uncut arrow]

Ahhh

[cunning matrix]

If you want to see why, you can try building it yourself under this branch: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/tree/66-linux-support

[sudden timber]

if i were to use the exe to install again, would it override the current version i have?

[cunning matrix]

Yes

[sudden timber]

awesome, ty

[cunning matrix]

Could someone add Bunco to the index rq?

[vagrant plover]

@errant sequoia

[burnt abyss]

Hi there!
Did you manage to install manager on Steam Deck somehow? I am also interested in this possibility.

I'm thinking of trying to run it through the windows program emulation, with which it runs all the games.
Have you tried to launch it somehow?

[dusky stag]

I haven’t tried again since it came out, I’ll try again when I get off work.

[cunning matrix]

If you guys want to try the experimental linux variant, you can build it yourself under this branch: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/tree/66-linux-support

[wintry veldt]

Would there be any good ways to provide feedback for using the linux installation via github issues or anything?

and it does have the same dependencies of tauri, rust and task right?

`[humplydinkle@jackspc src-tauri]$ deno task install
Task not found: install
Available tasks:

• dev (package.json)
  vite dev
• build (package.json)
  vite build
• preview (package.json)
  vite preview
• check (package.json)
  svelte-kit sync && svelte-check --tsconfig ./tsconfig.json
• check:watch (package.json)
  svelte-kit sync && svelte-check --tsconfig ./tsconfig.json --watch
• tauri (package.json)
  tauri
  `

when i'm in src-tauri there's no install for deno

`error: failed to parse lock file at: /home/humplydinkle/balatro-mod-manager/src-tauri/Cargo.lock

Caused by:
TOML parse error at line 6634, column 1
|
6634 | name = "winsafe"
| ^
duplicate key 'name' in table 'package'`

And cargo doesn't work either

@cunning matrix sorry for ping but you forgot a [[package]] header in the cargo.lock file

[cunning matrix]

Damn

[wintry veldt]

There also doesn't seem to be a "deno task install" command?

[wintry veldt]

^

at least in src-tauri according to the manual build installation

Sorry for all the fuss in the channel at least - wanna make sure I'm able to test on linux properly

@cunning matrix it also seems that there's deno task build but not Deno task install? this documentation oesn't seem right 🔍

`error: this file contains an unclosed delimiter
--> bmm-lib/src/database.rs:652:3
|
19 | impl Database {
| - unclosed delimiter
...
22 | pub fn new() -> Result<Self, AppError> {
| - unclosed delimiter
...
37 | if !db_exists {
| - this delimiter might not be properly closed...
...
114 | }
| - ...as it matches this but it has different indentation
...
652 | }
| ^

error: could not compile bmm-lib (lib) due to 1 previous error
`

And there is this build error as well

with not properly closed brackets

[cunning matrix]

I‘ll look into it when I‘m at home

[cunning matrix]

@wintry veldt fixed it

[cunning matrix]

You need to do it at the root of the directory not in src-tauri

[wintry veldt]

There still isn't a install task for deno at root either

Task not found: install
Available tasks:
- dev (package.json)
    vite dev
- build (package.json)
    vite build
- preview (package.json)
    vite preview
- check (package.json)
    svelte-kit sync && svelte-check --tsconfig ./tsconfig.json
- check:watch (package.json)
    svelte-kit sync && svelte-check --tsconfig ./tsconfig.json --watch
- tauri (package.json)
    tauri
[humplydinkle@jackspc balatro-mod-manager]$ 

closest thing I've gotten is just running deno build

[cunning matrix]

you do deno install not deno task install

[wintry veldt]

That's my bad

this specific part should be removed from the readme then

[cunning matrix]

true

Let me take a look at the readme

[wintry veldt]

Yeah that could be part of the problem as to why I'm having issues - outadted readme

[cunning matrix]

Fixed it

[wintry veldt]

would I build task release-windows or macos in this case? Or is there a task-linux

[cunning matrix]

Look in the readme

I updated

[wintry veldt]

I am so sorry about all this btw 😭

[cunning matrix]

No it's fine

Run this:

curl -sL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/refs/heads/66-linux-support/scripts/install.sh | bash

[wintry veldt]

   / __ )/  |/  /  |/  /           /  _/___  _____/ /_____ _/ / /
  / __  / /|_/ / /|_/ /  ______    / // __ \/ ___/ __/ __ `/ / /
 / /_/ / /  / / /  / /  /_____/  _/ // / / (__  ) /_/ /_/ / / /
/_____/_/  /_/_/  /_/           /___/_/ /_/____/\__/\__,_/_/_/


Balatro Mod Manager Builder
----------------------------------------
Build started at Wed Mar 19 02:29:19 PM CDT 2025
Error: This builder is for macOS only.

[cunning matrix]

woops my bad

try again

@wintry veldt does it work?

[wintry veldt]

we'll see in a second

currently compiling rust backend

[cunning matrix]

perfect

[wintry veldt]

    Error failed to bundle project:
    - `failed to run linuxdeploy`
Tauri build failed

builds fine but doesn't get converted to an appimage

[cunning matrix]

Yeah ik but try running the binary

BMM

[wintry veldt]

cool gimme one second

we got something at least

the app launches

[cunning matrix]

Well that's weird

[wintry veldt]

I know if I run task dev I can get the actual like interface to run properly

but it doesn't seem to be applying when going to the linux application

[cunning matrix]

Yeah if you just run task debug you should be able to see the app in debug mode

[wintry veldt]

Alright I fixed it

installed the wrong task (on Arch there's task, and go-task)

[cunning matrix]

Did you also install fuse2 on arch?

[wintry veldt]

fuse2 is installed by default I think why

[cunning matrix]

just checkin

[wintry veldt]

if I run go-task debug the ui boots up normally in a tab

but if I try to launch the application it doesn't work at all

[cunning matrix]

idk I'll look at it later

[hazy berry]

What is the difference between the exe and msi?

Nevermind, i got it!

[errant sequoia]

Heyo!
If automatic-version-check is set to true, do I still need to update the downloadURL manually? It doesn't seem like it gets replaced from the old version if the version field is updated

[cunning matrix]

Yes you do need to update it manually

[wheat wave]

If you're using a downloadURL that doesn't automatically track the latest release or latest HEAD, probably best to disable automatic-version-check, otherwise it will prompt users to update but they'll just be downloading the same version.

[errant sequoia]

Will the launcher automatically fetch the correct link if I use the automatic latest release link on github?

for ex. https://github.com/Firch/Bunco/releases/latest

[wheat wave]

downloadURL is a simple and dumb parameter, it has to point to a file directly and won't be changed by the mod update bot

[errant sequoia]

oof why would I ever want to have automatic version check then if the only thing it does is switching the number without changing the version?

[wheat wave]

For now, anyway. Might be worth improving later on, but smart resolution of URLs is a little dangerous

[wheat wave]

If your releases all use the same package name, you can make use of the github latest download link with https://github.com/Firch/Bunco/releases/latest/download/<your_package_name>.zip

[errant sequoia]

they do not; they have the version postfix included in the name

[wheat wave]

But GitHub doesn't provide a way to get a name-invariant download link for the latest package (yet? maybe ever)

[wheat wave]

This at least wouldn't be hard to add as a feature to the mod update bot. I did say i'd make an effort to add it at some point, I just haven't reached that point yet, haha. You're welcome to submit a PR if you like

@cunning matrix There was a lil' bit of spicy community drama relating to content usage and unclear permissions yesterday, and it's got me thinking about the legalities of mod distribution within BMM.
Are you happy to adopt the policy of only accepting submissions on the mod index from mod authors, or where clearly permitted by the mod licensing?
It might mean a little bit more work required in double-checking and approving PRs to the mod index, but I think it's an important issue.

[main nexus]

I wholeheartedly agree with this, as someone who added a bunch of the old abandoned stuff that's currently on there

Legalities aside it's just good manners to get the permission of the creator or just let them do it themselves

[random otter]

hi. Im new to mod and stuff, is there a guide that teaches you how to install BUNCO?

ive downloaded the zip but theres no notepad with instructions

[cunning matrix]

Install it through the mod manager

[cunning matrix]

I always check the licenses before adding a mod. All of the mods on the mod manager are either MIT or GPL

[random otter]

thank you!

[worn hound]

Why would legalities be involved? Don't think there's any rehosting of files involved, just a simple retrieval from a public link by the local client? Does that count as redistribution in some jurisdictions?
The respect is good though, particularly since if the updater doesn't work right then bug reports for stuff that already got patched gets more common :/

[cunning matrix]

hehe

[rapid willow]

Can it look for mod updates automatically?

[violet wren]

go to file → remux recordings after recording

[worn hound]

If only discord would embed it, it ain't a bad video container format

[dreamy gull]

What do i do with this error message?

[vagrant plover]

update lovely

[vagrant plover]

Ish. As user, some mods will have an "auto-update" option enabled on the index, which allows those mods to prompt an "update" button in your manager which is then a simple 1 click to update for you

[dreamy gull]

Thank you so much, that fixed it

[cunning matrix]

We've reached 100 stars on GitHub. Yaay

[uncut fable]

Yaaaay!!!

[bold salmon]

Feature request: collapsable sections. when browsing pages of currently installed mods, click the next page and boom, it scrolls to the top and i've got to scroll past my wall of locally installed mods. if i could just collapse it, it would be very nice

[waxen ether]

@cunning matrix can you make the mod manager install mods at either ~/.config/love/Mods or the protonprefix

that's basically all you have to do for balatro mod manager

[raw onyx]

MORE MODSSSSSSSSSS

[raw onyx]

powershell pmo 💔

@cunning matrix is this fine that it's loading for like 2 mins already?

[cunning matrix]

Yeah it depends on your internet speed

[raw onyx]

how long did it take for u ?

loaded btw , ty

[cunning matrix]

for the linux branch?

[waxen ether]

yea

that's all you have to do for balatro mod manager for linux

the option between protonprefix or the directory is for people who run Lovely Injector + LOVE natively on Linux and people who run balatro through proton

i'll add balatro support to boson later anyway

[raw onyx]

man we need a 'Download Dependencies' button

[cunning matrix]

Not possible, since some mods might require a different version of steamodded or talisman

[cunning matrix]

What's the default installation location for lovely on linux?

[waxen ether]

the binary? you have to build it manually for now

[cunning matrix]

No the mods

[waxen ether]

~/.config/love/Mods

actually

the default is the protonprefix

[cunning matrix]

?

[waxen ether]

yes

[cunning matrix]

Then it shall be protonprefix

[waxen ether]

~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/<balatro id>/pfx/<windows path>

[cunning matrix]

@waxen ether I updated

[waxen ether]

good

thats pretty much it for balatro iirc

[waxen ether]

oh, also dont forget about the 50 people using Steam in a Flatpak

in that case it will be ~/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/data/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/<balatro id>/pfx/<windows path>

[cunning matrix]

@waxen ether Could you also look into the issue with the appbuild?

[pallid mesa]

can someone help please?

this is whats happening when i try play bunco + steammodded

[cunning matrix]

update lovely

[pallid mesa]

how do i do that?

[cunning matrix]

Did you install lovely before?

[pallid mesa]

yes

i deleted everything just now in the mods folder then added lovely in (the .dll file)

but still comes up with an error

i used the new lovely version i tnik

[cunning matrix]

You shouldn't do that. Remove lovely and the mod manager will install the latest lovely version for you when you just click on "Launch"

[pallid mesa]

oh ok let me try now

thank you for helping me

ok so i just uninstaled all the mods

and deleted lovely

from the files

and launched it from mod menu

then i re added the mods launch it

and same error occurs

[cunning matrix]

So this must be causes by a mod then, no? If it launches without any mods with lovely, I don't think lovely is the issue then

[pallid mesa]

yes

these are the mods

yea its a mod problem

it launches fine without either

[cunning matrix]

Try and remove bunco

And just launch with steamodded

[pallid mesa]

ok just tried now

crashes

[cunning matrix]

interesting

[cunning matrix]

Could you try and install the latest lovely version manually?
https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases/tag/v0.7.1

[pallid mesa]

just did now

and tried launching it manually

when i delete both the mods and launch it was just lovely (after manually donwloading it works as well)

its a mod issues between bunco and steam modded

[thin dust]

Update your lovely

[pallid mesa]

i just donwloaded the latest version manually

surely thats ok?

or am i missing something

[thin dust]

Delete the old version.dll in the folder where your Balatro.exe is located

place the new one there

[wheat wave]

Also delete dwmapi.dll if it's there.

[wheat wave]

Where are you getting it from?

That's still running Lovely 0.5.0

[pallid mesa]

this was the trick

tysm

tysm to everyone for the help ❤️

[thin dust]

[raw onyx]

when more categories

we need

• Blinds
• Consumables
• Tags
• Vouchers
• Seals
• Enchancements

[cunning matrix]

Categories are based on https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

[raw onyx]

right, but it doesn't means there only should be these ones

we could also use them as subcategories

e.g. for content

[raw onyx]

how do i actually add files to the fork

using github for the 2nd time in my life 💔

[wheat wave]

Might be easier to do it locally, the GitHub interface online is a bit clumsy for things like this.
Briefly:

• Make a clone of your fork either with the command gh repo clone <your username>/balatro-mod-index or with GitHub Desktop
• Create the mod folder Username@ModName
• Create and write files description.md, meta.json, and optionallythumbnail.jpg
• Commit changes locally
• Push the local changes to online
• Create a Pull Request from your fork to the Skyline69 repo

[raw onyx]

i dont have gh things installed

[vagrant plover]

do you have git installed?

[raw onyx]

nope

thats what i said

[vagrant plover]

github and git are very different things but sure

I don't have any gh things installed either, but I do have git

anyway did you make a fork on github yet?

[raw onyx]

gh things - things related to github

[raw onyx]

yep but it has nothing

and isnt commited

[vagrant plover]

and like I said, github and git are very different things

[vagrant plover]

Alright. Then create and write the files as described in the https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index readme. Check https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/working-with-files/managing-files/creating-new-files if you have no idea how to do that

[raw onyx]

that doesnt answer my question

[vagrant plover]

was your question not "how do I add files to the fork"?

[raw onyx]

yep it was

like these guys did

[vagrant plover]

I'm confused, did you not see the github docs link I posted?

[raw onyx]

i did check both links

the readme i checked like few hours ago

b4 u even sent it

and the docs didnt help at all

[vagrant plover]

okay so which step specifically are you stuck on

do you get an error message? is there a button you can't find?

[raw onyx]

i basically have no idea tf is happening after step 5

do i actually have to commit 2 different files to this rep

so i will be able to attach them to the fork

or what

💔

[vagrant plover]

step 5 from the mod-index readme right?

Commit and Push
Commit your directory and files, then push them to your fork.
this one?

[raw onyx]

bro

i read the whole mod-index b4

and i got it

[vagrant plover]

You said you were stuck, I'm asking you where

[raw onyx]

with this shit

and more specifically with that

[vagrant plover]

yes you have to commit 2 different files (3 if you include an image)

[raw onyx]

and what after ?

[vagrant plover]

"pushing to your fork" doesn't really exist on github when you don't use git

[raw onyx]

i dont see any 'attach file' or smth button in fork

[vagrant plover]

there's an "upload files" button if you need to upload an image

[raw onyx]

i dont think u have an idea what am i even talking abt rn.

as i dont have any idea how to use github

[vagrant plover]

I don't, which is why I keep asking

stuff like "is this the step you're stuck on" which I get responded to with "bro I read it"

[raw onyx]

as i said b4 u asked that

i read the whole 'read me'

and i do know what should i do

i just have no idea how.

[vagrant plover]

just send your fork here and I'll take a look

[raw onyx]

i dont even have one ready bro 💔

[rapid willow]

I love this mod

manager

[vagrant plover]

Yeah you do. Go to https://github.com/l1s3l/balatro-mod-index/tree/main, that's your fork where you can make changes

[raw onyx]

wow so i can check that

[vagrant plover]

Then you should probably press the "Sync fork" button and "Update branch" so you're up-to-date

(it doesn't really matter in this case but it's good practice)

after that you can start adding files using the method described in the github docs link I showed earlier

does that make sense?

[raw onyx]

yee kinda

[vagrant plover]

Alright. Make sure your files are in the right directory/folder when you add them. Tag me if you need any help

[cunning matrix]

@waxen ether could you look at this

[night musk]

is mod manager supposed to automatically update the latest Steammodded? Because the current one isnt compatible with Cryptid I realize

[rapid willow]

@cunning matrix There's a conflict that makes the manager detect GARBSHIT as the Hit (blackjack) mod, thus getting the "official version" of GARBSHIT deletes it and installs Hit.

I don't know if this could happen with other mods but thought I should let you know.

[cunning matrix]

Yeah ik I‘m working on the algorithm for the detectio of the mods

[waxen ether]

can you be patient im in bed

that was TWO

IN THE MORNING

its 4

[proper vigil]

Anyone got any ideas? I installed all these mods off BMM but I'm slightly confused because some of the mods require a newer version of Steammodded than the BMM offers.

If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it :3

[proper vigil]

So I did figure that out but I'm still getting an issue and i'm not sure lol

[worn hound]

Well for one, Talisman looks to have been installed with an older version of BMM? The folder shouldn't be getting -main at the end anymore

And iirc cryptid doesn't like that

Same with steamodded actually, the folder i'm getting is named Steamodded

Beyond that unsure, seems like it crashes before steamodded gets running?

[proper vigil]

this is where i've gotten too lol

everything is up to date now

but something is still not interacting right

[vagrant plover]

one (or more) of your mods' lovely patches is failing, for some reason

doesn't seem like it has much to do with BMM

[vagrant plover]

can you send the latest lovely log from mods/lovely/logs?

[violet wren]

try latest

if it errors let the user deal with it

[low stream]

Does mac installation work? I clicked custom select executable and all the apps I can choose is grayed out

I bought it from app store, and it saids invalid path

[raw onyx]

we need a disable button here ngl

like if one of the mods crashes u game - u can disable one by one to find the one that crashes it

or just disable because u dont want it to be with other mods

[desert falcon]

you can do that in-game

[raw onyx]

sounds like a crutch tbh

[desert falcon]

I mean steamodded exists without BMM so it has to have that option

but it should at least get a search menu

[ocean meadow]

I would also like a disable button within the manager

I mentioned it a little bit ago but it got shot down almost immediately

[ocean heart]

that would be nice to do

im not sure how smods handles disabling mods though

[ocean meadow]

It literally just adds a .lovelyignore file in the mod directory

[ocean heart]

oh i thought it had to be more than that

in that case yeah could implement that super easy

[ocean meadow]

I'm glad other people have this opinion too lol

[raw onyx]

its kinda easy

ig it just checks if mod has lovelyignorefile inside of it and if it does then ignore it

it could also transfer mod from Mods directory to smth like 'DisabledMods' directory

[vagrant plover]

no, use the .lovelyignore, that way you can re-enable the mod again through the mods menu ingame

[ocean heart]

yeah its a no brainer to do it like that

[raw onyx]

could

as 'could do that if that method didnt exist'

not as 'or maybe it's like this'

[ocean heart]

huh

[raw onyx]

meh dont mind

theres no way it doesnt mention mod's category

[ocean heart]

person who submitted the mod to the index may have just not set any

[raw onyx]

like im a dumbass and didnt check that

[ocean heart]

no need to be rude

[raw onyx]

yes need

category is a must-need if i remember right

yep it is

[ocean heart]

im not even sure what you're trying to say

[raw onyx]

categories: Must contain at least one of Content, Joker, Quality of Life, Technical, Miscellaneous, Resource Packs or API.

must

mod just cant have no category

[raw onyx]

'not set any'

[ocean heart]

yeah but you found the mod

[raw onyx]

now im not even sure what you're trying to say

[ocean heart]

did you check the index

[raw onyx]

still not even sure

[ocean heart]

im not sure if Resource Packs is a category so i think aiko just may have misunderstood the category system

[raw onyx]

the mod

cant

have no category

[ocean heart]

chill

idk why you're freaking out

[raw onyx]

FYM CHILL

[ocean heart]

its not that big of a deal just a little fix is needed

[raw onyx]

its fucking impossible to be chill when everything u might actually have no idea how category system works and telling me to chill for no reason

the 'cant' is this big because u skipped it twice

it's not even caps smh

[ocean heart]

ok so i checked Resource Packs is a category

it has that

its set

[ocean heart]

so you can chill out aiko followed the rules

idk why you freaked out in the first place about it it clearly has a category set

[raw onyx]

idk why are u this dumb 💔

[ocean heart]

???

[raw onyx]

at least because dialogue shouldve ended here

explain why did u fucking have to say that

[ocean heart]

cause you are freaking out over nothing?

[raw onyx]

over nothing and proceeds to rage bait me with this shitty message

doesnt matter if it was planned or na

[ocean meadow]

Please adhere to Rule 1 of the server rules

As well as Rule 3

[raw onyx]

#📜・rules

dont mind couldnt access it other way

[ocean heart]

was just trying to help and you got real aggressive
only mistake i made was misremembering what the categories were and thinking for a sec that resource packs may not have been one of them, im on my phone so i couldnt open the manager and check immediately

[raw onyx]

'to help'

???????????????????????????

[ocean heart]

whats your deal

[raw onyx]

peak help

what a helper

give him the helper role if it exists

[ocean heart]

literally just going through possible explanations of what i thought you were talking about

why are you so angry over nothing

[raw onyx]

another reason why i am

because u cant shut the fuck up

simple

[ocean heart]

you're in a modding channel im a modder who came to try to understand the situation

[raw onyx]

all these 3 messages i was chill

and then ur brain decided to say this shit

[ocean heart]

1. you brought out the big text implying strong feelings over something/yelling, aggressive tone
2. the pic i posted clearly shows it has a category so you werent reading it

[ocean meadow]

It's apparent you still haven't decided to follow the rules

[ocean heart]

you clearly were not chill because you couldnt listen to me for some reason

[raw onyx]

over something/yelling, aggressive tone

yelling looks LIKE THIS

NOT LIKE

this

[ocean heart]

both of those are the same thing?

[raw onyx]

thats what caps was basically made for

[tidal hedge]

I think l1s3l was saying that either the category isn’t listed on the mod page (which it should be) or that it wasn’t being put in the right place?

[ocean heart]

well it was

it had a category set

and since its a retexture malverk mod its in the right spot

[raw onyx]

i said 'i can't see category of any mod, if it actually isn't possible it'd be a good feature to add'

[ocean heart]

you didnt say that you said it didnt have a category set

[ocean meadow]

That's not what you said at all, actually

[raw onyx]

thats what i meant

[ocean meadow]

You can't quote something that you didn't say, and say that you said it

[raw onyx]

this shit is used to make somebody pay attention

THIS SHIT IS USED TO YELL

AND THEY BOTH can be used to make u pay attention to something depending on the context

ur a dog -- this can be used as a yell

--some important info here-- this can be used to make somebody pay attention

[ocean meadow]

And then get mad at some body else for not reading your mind

[raw onyx]

??????????????????????????????

answer me 1 simple question right now

[ocean heart]

you didnt say what you meant you said an entirely different thing

[raw onyx]

is it possible to see category of a mod on the mod page.

[ocean heart]

why would you need to do that

you're already on the mod page

[raw onyx]

so yes or no.

[ocean heart]

no

[ocean meadow]

If you would like that as a feature, create an issue on the repo page

[ocean heart]

yeah

[ocean meadow]

That's what those are for

[ocean heart]

you didnt suggest a feature though

[raw onyx]

so this message was saying 'theres no way it doesnt mention mod's category'

[ocean heart]

you got angry a mod wasnt following the rules or something

[raw onyx]

and this one was saying what.

[ocean heart]

like it or not thats what you said

[raw onyx]

this shit only sounds like ' i think its possible u just did it wrong '

or some kind of that

[ocean heart]

all that implies is the possibility that you were mistaken not that you did anything wrong

[raw onyx]

same shit for me

[ocean heart]

and clearly you didnt say what you meant

so can you blame me for doubting you

bottom line you gotta mellow out

[raw onyx]

'theres no way' -- 'no way' in this case means that i thought this feature would be in mod manager because its actually useful, and im shocked that it isn't , and my shock alongside with 'its actually useful' should mean 'it should be added if it isnt there'
'it doesnt mention mod's category' -- the feature.

smh

[ocean heart]

thats not clear thats what you meant at all

[fiery dagger]

Bro take a chill pill its not that deep

[raw onyx]

theres 1 clear thing

[ocean meadow]

Regardless of that, there was no reason for your first response to somebody's comment to be as aggressive as it was

[raw onyx]

im shocked it isnt in it.

should be added is harder to notice

[ocean heart]

its also a lowkey aggressive way to suggest a feature in the first place

[raw onyx]

but the 'im shocked it isnt in it.' is fucking visible

[ocean heart]

it implies a lack of thinking on the dev's part

[ocean meadow]

The manager is still in alpha. It's gonna be missing some features

[raw onyx]

already said that it's harder to notice

[ocean meadow]

That's not that shocking

[raw onyx]

great im not blaming devs

im blaming this mf @ocean heart

[ocean heart]

you were the one who got aggressive

[raw onyx]

you were the one who made me aggressive

[ocean heart]

before i even said anything to you you were lowkey aggressive

and i have not sworn once in this convo

[raw onyx]

it would be if i said

'ur dumass' mentioning U being one

[fiery dagger]

Take accountability he didn’t make you do anything

[raw onyx]

it isnt that aggresive to repeat

'stop being aggresive'

3 times

[ocean heart]

you implied i treated you dumb by saying that

i didnt say anything mean to you

[vagrant plover]

Let's be real, you were being a dick to keku

[raw onyx]

wasn't till he told me to chill

[fiery dagger]

You are hostile and unreasonable, reflect and chill.

[raw onyx]

rn i am

[fiery dagger]

Because you needed to chill. Hard.

[ocean heart]

you still need to

[ocean meadow]

You continued to break the server rules even after it was mentioned that you were breaking them

[ocean heart]

yeah we know what you said

[raw onyx]

so i cant use # anymore or sum

[fiery dagger]

Whats that supposed to prove lmao

[raw onyx]

hello chat

is fucking aggresive too

because of the #

or what.

[ocean meadow]

that's not what was making you seem aggresive

[winged cave]

Different people interpet different typefaces differently

[ocean meadow]

it was the stuff you said before, between, and after that

[raw onyx]

HE said that it was the thing.

[winged cave]

Different people interpret different typefaces differently

[ocean heart]

they're interchangable to me

[fiery dagger]

You clearly lack the self awareness to reflect on your attitude as a whole over a free amateur mod lol

[raw onyx]

and what is ts supposted to mean

[winged cave]

I interpret that as mild aggression

[fiery dagger]

It means what it says.

[winged cave]

That much emphasis was not needed for that

[raw onyx]

clearly he didnt notice the "mod can't have no category" TWICE

and to make sure he will pay attention to it this time

i used this shit

[fiery dagger]

And? Thats a reason to throw a fit?

What an entitled attitude.

[ocean heart]

for one i did notice but it made no sense why you were saying that

[vagrant plover]

That even though everybody seems to be calling you out for being rude, you can't seem to accept that

[raw onyx]

nope i wasnt rude at all like next 6 messages after 'dumass'

[ocean heart]

and you admit it didnt make sense cause you clarifed you meant something entirely different

[raw onyx]

till this mf told me to chill

[winged cave]

I don’t think that matters

[raw onyx]

hell na im going to calm down, drink some tea and talk peacefully after him telling me to chill

[winged cave]

Tone can be misinterpreted in text

[fiery dagger]

You are either legitimately 12 or emotionally 12 and stunted.

[ocean heart]

me saying chill is not a declaration of war bro

[winged cave]

Give or take a few years ofc

[raw onyx]

saying that when im trying to be chill IS

[fiery dagger]

Just drop it its annoying going in circles and you are flooding the mod thread over nothing.

[vagrant plover]

Genuinely? Go drink some tea and get away from this convo, you're not doing yourself any favours right now

[winged cave]

Waht

Huh

[ocean heart]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[fiery dagger]

Just block him and go play balatro lmao

[raw onyx]

absolutely wrong

i TRIED ending this shit

[ocean meadow]

You might need an anger management class if that was your version of chill

[raw onyx]

until this guy said one more thing and continued it

[winged cave]

Good solution

[fiery dagger]

Bait used to be believable

[winged cave]

Maybe biweekly at least frequent

[raw onyx]

.

[raw onyx]

this is the message when the dialogue shouldve ended

smh repeating 'chill' 10 times like i didnt notice it

[ocean heart]

you are continuing to break rule 1 after claiming you tried to end an argument at this point i think you just shouldnt be in this server this isnt acceptable

[fiery dagger]

Life’s good when he is blocked 😇

[raw onyx]

0/10 rage bait

'chill' would work better

[ocean heart]

mfw trying to deescalate a situation is rage baiting

[fiery dagger]

He’ll argue with you all day don’t bother guys.

[ocean heart]

im just waiting for a mod to hop in

[raw onyx]

wait as much as u want

[fiery dagger]

They will when they see the @

[raw onyx]

lowk dgaf

[civic wave]

I can't go back through all of the above, but if people continue to act disrespectfully to others, I'll start timing people out. Game mods are complicated, getting to the bottom of issues isn't simple, please be kind when people are trying to help

[ocean meadow]

Anyway, back to what was being talked about since it's buried up there... A disable button on mod entries would be a nice and helpful addition to the manager

[fiery dagger]

Yes, so is profile presets!

[ocean heart]

mhm agreed on both fronts

[vagrant plover]

also showing the categories on the mod's readme would indeed be nice

[ocean heart]

a very low priority feature that isnt needed imo but it cant hurt to have

[wintry veldt]

What is boson for people not in the know

[ocean heart]

yeah what is that

[waxen ether]

basically steam compat tool that makes some steam games run natively

[wintry veldt]

Is it on GitHub at all? Wouldn’t mind grabbing it once it supports Balatro

[waxen ether]

right now it supports electron-based apps and cookie clicker

[waxen ether]

https://github.com/FyraLabs/boson

[wintry veldt]

Ty

[ocean heart]

Electron-based games? how would this work with Balatro? it's in Love2D 🤔

[waxen ether]

simple, instead of running electron run Love2D instead

it's that simple

[ocean heart]

ah yeah that makes sense

[waxen ether]

the love2d runtime is available on most distros

unlike electron

[vagrant plover]

This seems pretty small, is it not?

[waxen ether]

it's actually really simple

thats why it's small

[vagrant plover]

I don't mean in size or anything, I meant in users and usage

[waxen ether]

im planning to add love2d support later on but right now im busy with smth else

yeah

thing is theres a lot of electron-based games on steam for some reason 💀

cookie clicker is one

[ocean heart]

balatro runs pretty flawlessly on proton already

[waxen ether]

krunker

natsuno-kanata

[warped arch]

how do i install this?

[waxen ether]

yeah but imagine running natively on linux