Balatro Mod Manager is now out! 🎉

[ocean heart]

not made to last...

[lusty otter]

made to go extinct. Literally.

very accurate exemple here

keku 1 - 0 HuyTheLocFixer

[round arch]

some things are not made to last
but some things don't have a choice to go extinct

they must stay for as long as their owner could hold them

the poor gang

[lusty otter]

I still have my 2012-mac too it's a solid machine ngl

but the new toys are cheap and so powerful

[round arch]

local salary wouldn't say that

[wheat wave]

Performance could probably be improved pretty substantially by just disabling the background shaders and downscaling the thumbnails to a reasonable size

[warm sphinx]

mod manager banana edition: 1 in 6 chance to delete itself

[cunning matrix]

but it looks cool

(better argument)

[wheat wave]

Huy's just asking for options to improve perfomance, not to disable it for everyone

[cunning matrix]

I could make an option for this tho

can you open an issue?

[ocean heart]

the background is a shader?

thought it was like a video file

guess it makes sense

[cunning matrix]

then it would take even more resources haha

like 80+

I already checked

[ocean heart]

damn

[cunning matrix]

shit takes forever

[round arch]

haha very funny

you excluded Intel Macs

[fluid kayak]

what is an "intel"

[oak sleet]

intelligence

[fluid kayak]

i dont have that

[oak sleet]

like from tf2

[dusty crane]

theres macs still on intel that people use?

[vagrant plover]

You guys act like that was 25 years ago lol

[oak sleet]

it was 25 years ago

it is 2025 after all

[vagrant plover]

Can't you still buy intel Intel macs right now?

[vagrant plover]

So true

[oak sleet]

yeah you can still buy the NES

[vagrant plover]

Oh my bad didnt look at the date of the google summary

But intel macs only got discontinued 2 years ago

[vagrant plover]

Unlike the NES that got discontinued 30 years ago >:D

[round arch]

as long as Steam supports Catalina

Intel Mac won't die

at least up to those that supports Catalina, as old as MacBookPro9,1

[cunning matrix]

Pushing universal version today

[odd solar]

May i ask why some of the mods on the mod manager do the animation to install then not install?

[cunning matrix]

could you show me?

[odd solar]

I’m sorry I don’t have a screen recorder lol

[cunning matrix]

mhmm

[round arch]

it doesn't matter as long as you get the footage transferred

[cunning matrix]

try clearing cache

in settings

[odd solar]

didnt work. in all fairness its just these few mods for me. the rest work so if anything i can just manually install them. but then again maybe something you may want to know of. in case it can be fixed. in case the same issue happens on other mods

[cunning matrix]

Could you list them?

I see they are not working for me either

they must have given me the wrong download url

[odd solar]

as of now its just Lucky Jimbos, Buffoonery, and Rain World Karma Deck.

[cunning matrix]

interesting

I agree these don't work

I'll look into this

[odd solar]

alrighty, thank you 🙂
Love the mod manager btw. quite helpful

[cunning matrix]

In fact, these people have wrong download URLS

they have been naughty

@abstract sleet 🤨

[odd solar]

rip lol

[cunning matrix]

I'll fix it rq

@odd solar alright, try clearing cache now. I fixed the download URLs

[odd solar]

awesome! all fixed 🙂

tyhank you

[regal schooner]

Do you have any plans to add instances and automatic dependancies? Since its almost impossible to get the correct steamodded version while it's still in beta

[abstract sleet]

Ope, I have messed up indeed

I think

How do I update it? Just do a PR on the same repo again with the correct link?

[cunning matrix]

I already fixed it

[abstract sleet]

Damn. Sorry about it

[cunning matrix]

No worries

[cunning matrix]

@round arch I made the universal version for ya https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.2

[round arch]

noice

[subtle prism]

small suggestion, may already be possible but I haven't seen anything for it, but the ability to point the manager to the folder of a mod you already have installed would be nice

like you open the mod's page in manager and there's a "point to installation" button

[cunning matrix]

open an issue, if you want any changes made to the manager: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/issues

@fluid kayak https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/issues/41 done

[torpid osprey]

how to fix this

i have steamodded

[cunning matrix]

❕UPDATE: New Release: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.3

[cunning matrix]

Reindex mods

[torpid osprey]

how

[cunning matrix]

"Validate Mod Database"

[torpid osprey]

its just deleted smods

[cunning matrix]

Yeah

you need to install it from balatro mod manager

[torpid osprey]

oh

thx

[cunning matrix]

no prob

[cunning matrix]

I ain't gonna lie, the repo has sooo many clones but only 7 stars :/

Is it really that bad

[ocean copper]

just caught up on this, sorry for my mod causing issues
the readme for the mod index might need small adjustments on the part in parentheses, since that's what I referenced for setting up the json

[torpid osprey]

mod manager smods don't work with multiplayer??

[cunning matrix]

I'm talking with the founder of the mod for compatibility

[torpid osprey]

good luck

[cunning matrix]

Thanks

[cunning matrix]

quick checkup, is the mod manager working for everyone?

[torpid osprey]

ye

but not the multiplayer mod

[cunning matrix]

Ik ik

he's not answering

[paper marsh]

can we attempt to get jens almanac into the database, it would make it much easier to be able to just turn it on from there rather than having to move mod files around all the time

[hearty isle]

i'd ask but

jen seems to be idling atm

[paper marsh]

yeah, i didnt mean at this exact moment, just for like the future if you get me

[wheat wave]

Did you read through this little monologue from earlier? #1339375696254074942 message
Any thoughts about how you'd engineer a mod update feature?

[paper marsh]

also a quick QOL idea that i think would be nice, could we make it so it downloads dependcies alongside the mod you are trying to download, like how the R2modman does it(im not sure if that is something we can do, i dont have much experience with coding file managment stuff)

[wheat wave]

Implementing GitHub OAuth and making users login with a GitHub account would also be a fine way to bump up the API rate limit to allow BMM to check and update all mods

[cunning matrix]

It's bad UX tho

like imagine having to login to github when you are a newbie

and don't even know what github is

[wheat wave]

Worse than requiring users to uninstall and reinstall every mod when they want to update them?

[cunning matrix]

I mean, it doesn't require them to login

[wheat wave]

Do you have any ideas for alternative solutions?

Not supporting versions and updating is a pretty major omission for a mod manager, imo

[cunning matrix]

If I would have enough financial support, I could host a proxy which cashes the mods in the index and the issue with the GitHub API would be no problem anymore and the update feature could be implemented surely

[cunning matrix]

I talked with the founder, we're working on a solution. It'll take around an hour

[broken viper]

Hi, I'm having an issue and i don't really know what to do? I installed ver 0.1.0 yesterday and used it with no issue iirc. Today I downloaded and Installed the 0.1.3 update, and was unable to install any mod with the app, when i would click download it wouldn't start the typical downloading animation, nothing would happen. When I went to "Validate Mod Database" I got this SQL error. I went back to the original ver and tried clearing out the mods, but i found that this mods uninstall button doesn't do anything. I can install mods and use the application just fine still on ver 0.1.0. paperback is not in my mods folder. On ver 0.1.3 paperback is not in the mods section in the manager

[wheat wave]

If you're willing to fund it, that would be a great solution

[cunning matrix]

Remove bmm_storage.db in the %Appdata%/Balatro

[broken viper]

that fixed it, thanks!

[cunning matrix]

you're welcome

[cunning matrix]

I would, but I don't have the financial capabilites to do so

[wheat wave]

What about the (free) option of pulling version info into the balatro-mod-index via GitHub Actions?#1339375696254074942 message
Reckon there's any chance that could be a workable solution?

If you also pulled the latest update time, that could also solve the with the Last Updated feature hitting the API limit

[cunning matrix]

It would only work temporarly, since it would still hit the limit

[wheat wave]

Are you sure? I think GitHub actions allow 1000 REST requests per hour per repository when authorised

The larger issue is the monthly minutes limit, but you could tweak the update frequency to remain under the 2000 minutes cap

[granite path]

faroquin vs bmm who would win

[cunning matrix]

Is that even a question

[cunning matrix]

@torpid osprey Multiplayer is now in

[bold salmon]

I wont lie, the mod manager on my windows laptop makes it run laggy as well. terminal windows processing things run slower all around. Was using balatro mobile maker and repacking the apk was at 10 min. i closed the mod manager and it went instantly. Also if I have the modmanager open and try to test out mods on balatro holy shit is there frame drops

[hearty isle]

For any future inquiries regarding Jen's Almanac:

[sacred valve]

can someone send pre built files im too dumb for this

[bold salmon]

and then we had betmma who did it within like 5 minutes

[barren moss]

[cerulean rain]

idk if that's a fair take lol

[barren moss]

i'm just not okay with it at the moment, i ask that you respect my decision

[sacred valve]

thats dumb af

[cerulean rain]

yeah I think it's very fair to want to control where and how your content is distributed

it's just personal choice

[sacred valve]

can someone send me pre built files for this

oh wait nvm

[sacred valve]

but its on github and anyone cna see it anyways??

[barren moss]

almanac isn't on github, i removed it from github a long while ago to reduce my workload

[sacred valve]

ah then its whatever

if its not on github then its fair

[sacred valve]

where do i get it btw

does it have a thread here

[barren moss]

you can find it in the cryptid discord: https://discord.gg/unbalanced

[cerulean rain]

it's fair to want that even if it's on github imho

[sacred valve]

if it was on github i'd consider it a dick move

[halcyon spruce]

Seriously?
How does removing something from github be "fine" yet if it were on github, it would be a dick move?
I really have no comment other than, that's just utterly stupid.

I understand that you don't like the decision, that's fair.

Though maybe try rephrasing it?

[lusty otter]

don't we have a rule here to only discuss balatro mods in this discord and always leave the code source public ?

[wheat wave]

There are loads of reasons why any developer would prefer to limit and control distribution of their work. People make mods for free, for their own enjoyment. Publishing a mod is a gift to the community, often with a huge amount of time sunk into it. If a dev doesn't want to spend even more of their free time helping people with issues, their options are to:

• delete the mod
• ignore requests for help
• reduce the number of people who need help
• build a community to help people for you
  The best way to build a community is by having one single point of access. It's not a bad approach if you actually care about the experience of your users.

[lusty otter]

but isn't against the rules of this discord ?

if the creator of the game says you need to keep your mod's code source public

you have to do it

or otherwise your right to mod the game can be withdrawn

right ?

[placid rose]

Yeah, this does kinda violate rule 6, now that I see it.

[wheat wave]

How so? It's not a mod posted on this server

[lusty otter]

"All mods must be must have source be available "

[placid rose]

Exactly.

[wheat wave]

Sure, to be posted on this server. But it's not.

[lusty otter]

Let them have fun wih it then

the mod is a mess low quality job anyway

[halcyon spruce]

💀

Okay i'm muting this shit

[lusty otter]

4 chances out of 4 to crash the game

[cerulean rain]

opinion aside that's an incredibly unkind take

[wheat wave]

It's really not that cut-and-dry. EULA's and licenses can only go so far. Mod makers still own the intellectual property of their work

[cerulean rain]

source is available too considering there's no intermediary compilation step. what you download is the source code, plain and simple.

[lusty otter]

i mean no offence to the creators, i just find it odd to take it all out of this discord.

i have my mods preferences too and cryptid doesn't fit them

[cerulean rain]

as a creator I would take offense to this.

[lusty otter]

I'm sincerely sorry. it came out weird.

Please accept my sincere apology!

[barren moss]

[lusty otter]

https://tenor.com/view/box-of-shame-box-shame-gif-5716656840447945106

[lusty otter]

I'm sorry! I don't even know why I participated in this conversation in the first place

[barren moss]

very polite of you.

[halcyon spruce]

this is exactly as I expected it to go

[alpine turtle]

You guys should not deviate from the topic of this thread, no one benefits from this

[wheat wave]

Respectfully, discussion about the rights of developers to not have their mod distributed is definitely on-topic for the thread of a mod distribution program. Personal attacks, not so much

[lusty otter]

Again I apologize for the not so kind words i wrote !

[vagrant plover]

Since this got buried under a different mod discussion, Is this something you'd be interested in as an approach or not skyline? Or would you only want external server caching?

[astral patio]

are mods not installed through the mod manager recognized?

[obtuse leaf]

whats the benefit of using this over smods ? where i can select what mods i wanna run insdie the game

[round arch]

more user-friendly for non-modders

the goal is to make something that launches Balatro with mods being separate from vanilla

meaning you can switch between the two easily without renaming version.dll

[vagrant plover]

Also just easier downloads

One-click download install

[cunning matrix]

Not yet

[vagrant plover]

@cunning matrix

[unique osprey]

is this foss?

[cunning matrix]

The problem with this approach is that the GitHub Action would run even longer in the future when more mods are added, since it sadly has to check every JSON until it approaches the newly added one

[cunning matrix]

Yurr

[unique osprey]

nice

[molten moon]

could just make a fake "check for updates" button that uninstall and reinstall all mods you had installed
it's far from a good solution, but at least it makes things faster

[vagrant plover]

Hmmm, good point.
We should be able to guesstimate how long the json search and parsing hashing would take for each mod and set a baseline from that though. E.g. "with 200 mods we expect the github action to take approx 5 minutes" and then run it every X hours based on that

[vagrant plover]

That is hilarious and would probably actually work (though you don't actually need to lie to the user to do this lol)

[wheat wave]

You could take it one step further and do a quick hash on the contents of the downloaded and local files and indicate which ones were changed

But it's pretty rough, and for large mod lists that "check" might be a multi-gigabyte download

[vagrant plover]

A hash on the mod content would actually work for the github actions approach too

[molten moon]

yeah

[karmic prawn]

how to i instal? do i put it in the %AppData%\Balatro\Mods like every other balatro mod? or?

cuz it's not working 😦

[wheat wave]

It's a separate program. Download from Releases and run the setup

[karmic prawn]

wait download for releases?

[wheat wave]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases

[karmic prawn]

😦 i am very confused

[alpine turtle]

Treat it like a program not a mod

[karmic prawn]

wait but i odnt get what to do?

[alpine turtle]

Just run the exe

[karmic prawn]

uhm... i think im stupid... how do i do that?

[wheat wave]

It's understandably overwhelming the first time, there's a lot of information to deal with

And the Assets are hidden by default for some reason

[karmic prawn]

oh i got it to work

thanks 🙂

[rustic summit]

A few questions:
Do I have to rebuild my entire modlist to use this?
I have downloaded mods that I have customised to suit my preferences. Will all this need to be done again? Or is there a way to point the MM to xyz-files and say this is xyz-mod?

[wheat wave]

If you already have things set up the way you like, I wouldn't recommend using BMM currently. It deletes the contents of the mods folder when it reindexes, and doesn't recognise mods that it didn't install itself

[rustic summit]

Can I use it to install ontop of what I have? So without indexing?

[wheat wave]

Yep. Just backup your Mods folder first, just in case

[rustic summit]

I have about 13 backups 🤣

I'm assuming this functionality is on the timeline for the future?

[wheat wave]

Looks like it, based on the current open issues

[rustic summit]

Not sure if this has been suggested, but it could be a good repository for themes for the Trance mod

[torpid osprey]

YO THX SO MUCH

[cunning matrix]

Now added an option to enable/disable Background Animation

[bitter mantle]

What's the chances of being able to show mod incompatibility inside the mod manager? Mostly just wondering.
Also, is there a current road map you have in mind? Honestly pretty excited to see what the Manager features ends up coming around to.

[cunning matrix]

What do you mean with mod incompatibility?

[bitter mantle]

So, mods that could potentially conflict and cause issues in game.

[cunning matrix]

The next Issue I‘m gonna be working on is gonna be the one with the mod collections

[cunning matrix]

Honestly, no Idea on how anyone would implement that

Maybe with the smods meta data

[bitter mantle]

Hmm. I'm not too well versed in coding, and just a noob, so I'm not sure either. I know there's a way, as other Mod Managers I've seen on other games implemented it, but I never really asked. Figured I'd ask, since I've noticed there's issues with Mod Conflicts, and the game doesn't really say anything other than "Needs dependency," "missing file," or "Fully Loaded."
I've started working on a Google Doc that we can all use and edit for people to see, and hope it'll be something that should hopefully help.

[cunning matrix]

It could be possiblr

I‘ll work on this with dependencies first I guess then

[rustic summit]

May I suggest a toggle to remove the BG entirely? for those who want that dark mode? I currently use a separate mod to do so

Thinking about it, it would also make for a great battery saver on handhelds

[cunning matrix]

I need to first work on the linux variant before introducing custom themes

[rustic summit]

I wasnt meaning a theme, I just meant a toggle to disable the BG

[cunning matrix]

Completely black?

[rustic summit]

Yeah

[cunning matrix]

Uhh why

It would not fit the theme at all

[rustic summit]

A) Dark mode
B) Dark mode
C) Power Saving? 👀

[ripe plume]

After installing everything and running the command

How to open it ?

Kinda confused

[cunning matrix]

As I said. Custom Themes will be introduced later on

[cunning matrix]

The paths are given at the command output

[ripe plume]

On windows
Got rust deno and Tauri

[cunning matrix]

But you can also install the precompiled binaries

In the releases

[ripe plume]

Fuck i closed the window

How to view powershell history ?

[cunning matrix]

Idk

Just get the precompiled version

[cerulean rain]

cat (Get-PSReadlineOption).HistorySavePath should work

[ripe plume]

shows inputs instead of outputs

[vagrant plover]

Its cuz it's a prerelease, dunno why GitHub does that

[cunning matrix]

@ripe plume did it work?

[ripe plume]

Yeah but was messy and didnt wanna bother

Plus conflicted with the modpack manager i installed prior

Decided to delete them both and manage mods manually

[bold salmon]

I believe something like this. SMODS can detect if a mod has missing dependencies or an incompatible version. Checks version req vs what's installed

[cunning matrix]

I don‘t understand tho why the mod manager needs it

SMODS already displays this info?

[bold salmon]

The apps on the mod manager don't state what version is required of smods or anything, only if the whole package is missing. We need to open the game to know if we have issues

Doesn't NEED it but QOL down the line, makes it feel polished

IronyMod Manager is another I use for Stellaris, which has some supported conflict detection might be worth looking at seeing what they do

Or https://github.com/NicolasGrosjean/Paradox_Conflict_Detector

[vagrant plover]

Seems like a useful future feature yeah, doesn't need to be added right now

[bitter mantle]

So the version of Cryptid with BMM, is it using the new calc? o.O

[bold salmon]

yeah its refactor branch

[torpid osprey]

where to get latest release

[cunning matrix]

of?

[torpid osprey]

oh nvm

[cerulean rain]

what's the status on removing these binaries? https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/tree/main/src-tauri/resources

[frail summit]

if i get my mod on the index, would it update automatically?

[ocean heart]

if the download link is set up correctly then yes

[cunning matrix]

only version.dll is used (I‘ll update it manually, the other one is old. The latest lovely version is gonna be downloaded on macOS automatically

[cerulean rain]

gotcha. you should be also be downloading the windows binary at runtime instead of bundling it.

I don't want to need to coordinate lovely releases

especially in the event of a sec. vulnerability or major bug.

[uncut arrow]

Dumb question but can I install this on my Steam Deck via the manual method?

[round arch]

it should work I believe, but you have to specify the game path yourself since Idk if Windows binary can detect Balatro from Steam Proton

[covert wren]

another dumb question but i've followed all the instructions and was able to install the mod manager on mac with
curl -sL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/main/scripts/install.sh | bash

, but where can i open it to use it? 😅

---

i also already closed the terminal

[covert wren]

ok i decided to just reinstall it and this time it popped up the friendly click-n-drag this to the applications folder so 🤗 all good now

[round arch]

the script builds a temporary disk image file iirc

[granite path]

faroquin is like a cooler name its pretty tough

[abstract cedar]

so, I was wondering how to install on steamOS/Linux, but it doesn't say on the GitHub page. Could someone post how to do it?

[cunning matrix]

There is no Linux support right now

It will come in the future

[abstract cedar]

I'll be waiting. It seems really cool

[jolly jungle]

How do I uninstall, I thought there would be more content, and now im upset because this just deleted all the mods I already had installed.

i think i just uninstalled, but damn, I just lost 40 mods

luckily lovely says what mods are installed in each log

sorry for complaining homie

[alpine turtle]

Yeah it should not do that, or at least should warn user before wiping everything

[jolly jungle]

yeah i dont think it warned me

[restive stirrup]

Opened a pull request to add my mod to the index, lmk if theres any issues!

[wheat wave]

@cunning matrix Steamodded's version still defaults to the long-deprecated 0.9.8, could you change the default to latest?

[mint trench]

is it better to use this or do it manually?

[fluid kayak]

no it doesnt?

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/blob/f2af8baf9e5f6d2d46c918be1576a47a2993fc94/mods/Steamodded%40smods/meta.json#L8

this is latest

[wheat wave]

Is this just a me problem?

[fluid kayak]

huhh

when did that happen

maybe its just because thats a release?

[wheat wave]

BMM doesn't use the Steamodded or Talisman balatro-mod-index entries, it has custom handling for their versions

[fluid kayak]

thats.. weird

[wheat wave]

It's been that way since the beginning as far as i can tell, it was mentioned once before

[fluid kayak]

wonder when thats getting changed

[wheat wave]

There's a larger issue with that version handling, which will become a breaking problem if not fixed.
Because a GH API call is performed for each mod (to get the last change date), as soon as there are more than 60 mods on the balatro-mod-index the program will hit the per-hour call limit immediately. This means that new users who download the program won't be able to download Steamodded or Talisman with it at all.

[vagrant plover]

Pretty sure it does do that?

It at least used to do so

[odd solar]

by chancce do the mods update automatically? or do we have to reinstall?

[wheat wave]

Uninstall/reinstall is the only way currently

[odd solar]

okie thankyou

[cunning matrix]

hey guys, I'm currently working on a paginator, because we already have a lot of mods on the index

[wheat wave]

Looks great, that will be handy in the future

[wheat wave]

Speaking of "lots of mods on the index":
#1339375696254074942 message

[cunning matrix]

No Idea on how to go around this issue

[wheat wave]

A rough fix would be to use GitHub actions to populate the mod index with all the data that you need per-mod, running every few hours, then pull it all at once in a single call in BMM

Also while i have your attention, was this dealt with? I haven't checked recently
#1339375696254074942 message

[cunning matrix]

Nah, ez to fix tho

And I don't see why this is an issue?

you can still select, no?

[wheat wave]

0.9.8 is long-deprecated and irrelevant

It makes no sense to have it as the default

[cunning matrix]

could you still open an issue

rq

[cunning matrix]

So only 1 request? Or what?

[wheat wave]

I guarantee it'll take you less time to fix than it took me to write the issue, but i guess you like closing issues

[wheat wave]

I don't understand your question, sorry. I figure if you bake in the extra metadata like last update time and version info into the entries in the balatro-mod-index, then you'll have it all ready when you download the index in BMM, and won't have to make additional API calls to get that info

[cunning matrix]

Oh yeah ofc

[crystal kelp]

So i followed all the steps on download and downloaded the 4 programs, how do I run this mod still?

[round arch]

bmm is a separate program, not a balatro mod

[round arch]

did you mean the prerequisites

then I recommend using the prebuilt binary

click on the hyperlink, scroll down to "assets" and click the dropdown
then select the respective installer for your operating system

[crystal kelp]

okay thanks, i got it working, also are all mods here supposed to be compatible with all the mods here? the game crashes when I try to run codex arcanum, and lovely crashes when I try to run cryptid

[vagrant plover]

The mod manager does not care for silly things such as mod compatibility

[crystal kelp]

also the colorblind seals aren't active in game

ah thanks lol

[vagrant plover]

Seriously though, its a trial and error kinda deal

Though most mods should work when using individually

[crystal kelp]

ye ye I know, its definetily a difficult process to build something like this, and then to check compatibility it seems like it would have to be a manual process which is difficult for this

a lot of time would need to be spent to check everything which its feasible

[vagrant plover]

Okay who added the original codex arcanum to the repo

Instead of the existing better maintained forks

@main nexus

[vagrant plover]

Can you elaborate on the cryptid crash?

[main nexus]

yeah that'll be me, honestly didn't even know that there were more updated forks, I'll get that changed - what link should I use?

[vagrant plover]

Sorry for the rude call out

I'm actually a bit confused, what happened? I saw you asked in the arcanum thread

[main nexus]

It's okay, I am the one going around logging a bunch of older stuff after all

I asked, they said I could, but I guess I grabbed the wrong link by going to itay's version

[vagrant plover]

And that you were at least somewhat aware of the redux arcanum fork by jumb0

The current forks I know of are:

• aure's fork (unmaintained)
• elbe's fork
• jumb0's rewrite fork

I believe jumbo's is the most up-to-date one

[main nexus]

I honestly thought redux was a "not ready yet" kinda successor project that would be a separate mod rather than the main thing going forward

[vagrant plover]

Ah

[main nexus]

Either way, thanks for the heads up, I'm bringing over a lot of older mods so the occasional goof will happen

[vagrant plover]

I believe we want @tough vale's redux arcanum, as it is basically a reimplementation of the original mod

(lots of breaking changes in smods etc)

As well as providing necessary bug fixes, the Redux Arcanum fork also implements a suite of balance changes and a few new features.

Hmm, maybe not.

Starting to sound like we need elbe's fork instead

https://github.com/lshtech/Codex-Arcanum

Which afaik only has bugfixes for the original

[main nexus]

tbf Jumbo said it should be fine as well, so I'll pop both in and people can decide which they wanna use.

[vagrant plover]

Yeah that sounds good to me

A separate entry for redux and codex (latter with elbe/lshtech's fork)

[main nexus]

Exactly
I'll make the corrections in my fork now and set up the pull request

[vagrant plover]

Thanks for the work you're putting in btw :)

[main nexus]

No problem <3, it's not like it's anything requiring any know-how, I'm just doing the gruntwork for the backlog of old mods because I want a unified mod manager to take off

[tough vale]

It's sort of this, since I've added additional features + balancing that deviates from the original, but I don't really have any other plans for it at the moment

Adding both might make sense

[wheat wave]

@cunning matrix Heads up that we've hit the 60 cap now. Talisman and Steamodded downloads are now broken.

It also breaks a few other GitHub services i use online because it single-handedly saturates the API call limit.

[cunning matrix]

yeeah I'm gonna temporarly disable the "latest" thing

[elder pulsar]

I installed rust and deno, as well as vs studio since they were listed as prerequisites, if I want to install the mod manager with the exe can I remove them?

[wheat wave]

Yep, they're the requirements for building the program from scratch, not required to run it

[wheat wave]

"Prebuilt Binaries" right next to "Prerequisites" is a bit confusing for non-developers. A lot of users won't know what "prebuilt binaries" even means, and when people see "Prerequisites" right next to a download link they understandably assume they need them for it to work.

[cunning matrix]

PR

I don't get the confusion. I mean, it's also not for meant for non-readers

But I was gonna update the website anyways

so they don't have to do it via github

But there is still so many things to do

and I can't do every feature/request at the same time

[wheat wave]

That's fair, I'm sorry for bombarding you with a lot of minor requests. I appreciate that you're making the mod manager in your own time and I know it's early days, so not everything can be expected to be perfect.
I just see a lot of players new to modding making the same mistakes, and it seems that some better communication by developers and user-friendliness in programs would help reduce the number of people who stumble into the same pitfalls and have to be helped out.

[elder pulsar]

Are we allowed to add mods to the mod index that aren't ours but haven't been put on the index yet?

[wheat wave]

Check licensing and permissions first. If it's listed on GitHub with a copyleft license like GPLv3, MIT, MPL, then it's fair game and cool to be redistributed. Otherwise, ask the developer first

[elder pulsar]

what caused it to crash here? Removed talisman and Cryptid, and still got an error. These mods run fine without Balatro Mod Manager, but with the mod manager, I crash

[cunning matrix]

No, I appreciate your feedback. I don't want to come as rude, it still helps the project a lot

[halcyon roost]

is this like good

[cunning matrix]

"Validate Database"

in Settings

[elder pulsar]

yeah but thats gonna get rid of the mods that arent in the database yet right?

can I have it not do that

[cunning matrix]

sure, but it can cause things to break

[elder pulsar]

btw, does the mod manager pull from the latest source code for the mod's main branch? Or does it install the latest release?

[wheat wave]

Depends on the link in the balatro-mod-index.
Fixed release:"downloadURL": "https://github.com/Breezebuilder/SystemClock/releases/download/v1.5.1/SystemClock-v1.5.1.zip"
Latest release: "downloadURL": "https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/releases/latest/download/Talisman.zip"
Latest source head: "downloadURL": "https://github.com/Eremel/Galdur/archive/refs/heads/master.zip"

[fluid kayak]

also the hit https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/742b80fe8d01fe7a1183d94d293afcab7162170d.zip

[elder pulsar]

validated database and it gave me this when I tried switching to another profile

[cunning matrix]

Sorry guys, I couldn't work on the Balatro Mod Manager today this much, but I'll try as much as I can

I'm working on the fix for the current issue with the mods

(I'm talking about the cache)

[versed socket]

Hey! I release my mod yesterday (https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1342187005244866700) and someone told me to add it to the mod manager. I looked around the project and it seems great! any guidelines on how to add a mod there? how would that work when i release a new version? thanks

[dusky estuary]

There is a guide available there :
https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index
It has all the info you need to get your mod inside BMM.

[versed socket]

thanks, i’ll look into it this afternoon

[crystal kelp]

Does anyone have issues running cryptid on this mod? it crashes every time whether I have other mods installed or not

[oak sleet]

that's just a cryptid issue if you're using new calc (latest smods) and/or the refactor

[outer lichen]

Is there a reason why we have to run an installer instead of this just being a portable program?

[cunning matrix]

https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri-action/issues/302

[wheat wave]

This workaround any good?
https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri-action/issues/302#issuecomment-1616806925

[cunning matrix]

literally just cargo build --release and renaming the binary..

I'll try, when I'm back home

[wheat wave]

I don't have any familiarity with Tauri, just wanted to draw your attention to it. Reading through the thread, it seems like Webview2 is the main issue, and would probably result in a lot of people complaining to you that the portable version doesn't work. Might not be worth it.
mv ./target/${{ matrix.target }}/release/wooting-profile-switcher.exe ./target/${{ matrix.target }}/release/WootingProfileSwitcher_${{ github.ref_name }}_x64-portable.exe is renaming the non-setup exe from the build, right?

[cunning matrix]

Yeah

[wheat wave]

What's your experience with Tauri been like so far? Would you use it again instead of something like Electron?

[cunning matrix]

The interop is too good to not use it

[outer lichen]

neat, Ive just compiled it myself since i do not want to install stuff i dont really need so currently using it as portable

[dusky stag]

Does anyone know how to install the mod manager on steam deck

[wheat wave]

The program isn't available for Linux (yet), it's Windows or macOS only currently

[dusky stag]

Poop, I’ll try & stay updated

[stone jetty]

I just found that my description.md has a typo and corrected it, would such change request invalidate my overall pull request?

[stiff glacier]

hey gang, i just used the mod manager to load up the game w/ just steammodded and malverk - the latter doesn't seem to show up in the Mods tab and the game crashes w/ this message when I pull up the Options menu - not quite sure if i did anything wrong

ope, figured it out - super old version of steamodded is being installed by the modloader. the april 2024 0.9.8 release if i had to guess

everything works after manually downloading/installing steamodded from github! haven't seen anyone else talk about having this issue after doing some scrolling, bit weird

[rose jungle]

Is there a known fix for this? on Windows

[vagrant plover]

update lovely

[ocean meadow]

It reruns the checks for any changes you make

[glass sleet]

out of curiosity is it possible to run a mod not within the index
if not then thats fine, since the original reason im asking was solved by realizing showing joker stickers is a vanilla setting lol (actually i kinda need it for the house rules mod)

[wheat wave]

Manually-installed mods will work as they usually do, but they'll be deleted by BMM if you click the "Validate Mod Database" button (which it will warn you about first)

[glass sleet]

good to know

[woven fern]

BMM and steammodded + lovely works separately?

[vagrant plover]

BMM is not a mod

it installs steamodded and lovely for you

it's completely separate

[woven fern]

should i delete mods in the %appdata% first?

[vagrant plover]

you don't have to

some mods you have installed might not be on the mod manager

and they will be deleted if you click the "validate mod database" button

[woven fern]

cool

[reef narwhal]

all of the mods in the manager just, disappeared? like none of them appear in any of the tabs

and if i try to search nothing comes up

[tiny barn]

It doesnt work with cryptid ?

[reef narwhal]

i installed cryptid separately because the version in the manager wouldn't install, i'd click the download button, it'd act like it was doing something for a split second, and then just stop, no popups or anything

[vital bridge]

wtf mod mananger

[fallen heron]

How is multiple authors formatted? Just ["author1", "author2"]?

[vital bridge]

where is my shenanigans mod

smh

[wheat wave]

That's because Cryptid just merged it's largest update back to the main branch, but BMM is still using the link to the refactor branch. For now you can download it from here instead: https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/tag/v0.5.4

[vagrant plover]

they nuked the refactor branch? probably shouldn't have yet haha

though it should be updated on the index https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/commit/9dbb02030cc6f12bc526679eb7c11bfced5dd65a 🤔

[wheat wave]

Wow, that was merged only 7 minutes before 1 1 2 tried to download it. Probably missed it by a slim margin

[wheat wave]

If you hit the "Clear Cache" button in Settings Cryptid's download should work now

[vagrant plover]

I think their name's Fibonacci Sequence haha

[reef narwhal]

thank you muchly

[wheat wave]

Also see above, Clear Cache in Settings

[elder pulsar]

What to do if Balatro instantly closes when pressing Launch?

nvm we're good!

[crystal kelp]

Why does cryptid not work on this mod?

[vital bridge]

this isn't a mod?

[round arch]

BMM is a separate program used to manage mods for Balatro, not a Balatro mod

[fluid kayak]

idk if the index has updated to where it's supported

both talisman and cryptid would have to have the proper releases

so who knows

[unique reef]

Does anyone recognize this issue where the mod manager is just empty? I've tried reinstalling and other stuff, like deleting bmm_storage.db.

[night falcon]

i am having this exact same issue

ive tried uninstalling bmm and balatro and a couple of test mods in so many different ways

it worked earlier is the thing i just thinkg i fucked something up really really bad

[fluid kayak]

unplug your router and plug it back in

[night falcon]

lmao what is that actually the solution?

[fluid kayak]

if the issue is being rate limited by the github api and your router has dynamic IP then yes (waiting an hour has the same effect, github limits you per-hour)

but if this has been happening to you for hours it probably isn't that

[night falcon]

huh insteresting

ill try it in a minute hang on

[fluid kayak]

don't actually 😭

most routers take like 15 minutes to actually function after being unplugged afaik

[night falcon]

i mean mine is usually relatively fast

i mean like,, if it works lol

ok i reset it lets see if this works (:

it did not help :(

[ruby solar]

how do you put steamodded in

nvm

[ruby solar]

i need some help

mods that i have

[vagrant plover]

update your lovely to 0.7.1

[ruby solar]

how do i do that

[vagrant plover]

Oh right it's bundled with the manager... What's the version of your manager?

[ruby solar]

hold on

0.1.4

i installed mods that aren't on the manager as well

[vagrant plover]

hmm that's weird

not sure why it's using 0.6.0 then, I'd assume the included version would be 0.7.1

[vagrant plover]

you could get lovely manually from https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector, and just launch the game through steam instead

[fluid kayak]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/issues/6

[vagrant plover]

that doesn't really tell me the current version either haha

[cunning matrix]

Fix cυmming very soon

[fluid kayak]

🔥

[ruby solar]

ok i found out the version of smod was the problem

[vagrant plover]

🤨

[fluid kayak]

thank god mine wasn't working

[crystal kelp]

Yes I know that, but when using this to include cryptid it doesnt work, it crashes, even with no other mods insallted, the cryptid download doesnt work

[oblique oasis]

hmmmmm

it seems something is missing

[cerulean rain]

is it still bundled? I thought that was replaced to download it like everything else.

[vagrant plover]

don't think it was judging by the fact #1339375696254074942 message still exists as issue

idk though, didn't look through the source code

[wheat wave]

It's bundled but the included version is identical to (matching SHA256) the released Lovely 0.7.1 dll, so I'm not sure what would be causing that issue

More windows file permission shenanigans?

[cunning matrix]

❕UPDATE: New Release: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.5

[cunning matrix]

@cerulean rain https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/pull/69

[cunning matrix]

"pull/69", ha nice.

[vagrant plover]

yay

[cerulean rain]

sweeeeet, thanks!! hype release

[cunning matrix]

Currently working on opening mentioned mods (you can't see my cursor)

[wheat wave]

Neat feature, how does it work? Are you using URIs of some kind, or have you come up with some other linking method?

[cunning matrix]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/blob/22b6f44f2fc5de9a1d46eb4b1a7d52221b61ed1a/src/components/viewblock/ModView.svelte#L59

although very slow

[wheat wave]

Oh, URL, cool, so it should handle anything

BMM replacing my browser when

[vagrant plover]

ooh cool 🔥

[exotic holly]

first time trying to mod balatro, and apparently my game crashed, not sure what to do

[wheat wave]

There's that sneaky lovely v0.6.0, how'd that get there?

[wheat wave]

Can you explain how you installed the mods? Did you download and install a version.dll file from somewhere by yourself, or did you only use Balatro Mod Manager to install mods?

[wheat wave]

To fix the crash you want to update Lovely to v0.7.1, but it would be good to know where v0.6.0 came from in the first place, because BMM should have installed v0.7.1

[exotic holly]

I downloaded them from the mod manager

[wheat wave]

Okay, interesting. Which mods did you install?

[exotic holly]

I only installed the bejeweled on so far

one*

[exotic holly]

how does one go about doing this

[wheat wave]

Download the latest version of Lovely from here:
https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases
And follow the install guide

Put version.dll in the Balatro steam installation directory along with Balatro.exe

[exotic holly]

You

are a kind soul

thank you so much

[wheat wave]

Mostly a very confused soul. I don't see any way or reason for BMM to be using 0.6 in the installation process

[dusky estuary]

I should add something in my mod's description inside BMM that says "Make sure to have the latest version of Lovely" or smth similar.

[wheat wave]

That shouldn't be necessary as BMM should always be installing the latest version of Lovely. BMM up to this point has included the v0.7.1 version.dll, and moving forward it will download Lovely from the latest release on GitHub

[dusky estuary]

Fair enough, i was as confused as you were about Lovely 0.6

[wheat wave]

1. It's not possible for mods to override or replace it regardless of how they're installed
2. BMM's git shows no changes to the packaged version.dll and I've confirmed that it's identical to the v0.7.1 release version
3. The only file introduced into the game install directory was the bundled one from ../../resources/version.dll and no modifications are made to this path
4. BMM makes only a handful of unique https requests which i've audited, they're all either to known domains or the non-existant https://test.com/mod.zip

@cunning matrix Any guesses about cause?

[cunning matrix]

No Idea. It's not possible that it would use 0.6.0

[neat hornet]

Forgive my ignorance but is this a complement to steammoded or a replacement?

[main nexus]

You can download steamodded through it

[neat hornet]

Ah, got it, thanks. Do you know how I can toggle the FPS counter and other on screen info when using that?

[ocean meadow]

I believe that is DebugPlus

[desert falcon]

oof

[cunning matrix]

Damn

[spare depot]

I just wish it would show what mods you already had in your mods folder before having the manager

I had to move them all out for it

[cunning matrix]

After the links feature, this will (probably) be the next feature, which I will implement

[vagrant plover]

I think this is cuz most of the people who are active in this thread are other mod devs

who already have their environment set up the way they like it

[wintry veldt]

I just use Linux so I’m patiently waiting for release

[granite path]

@cunning matrix not sure if this bug has been reported but scrolling down on the settings page doesnt work if you have a mod open in the mods tab

[cunning matrix]

Already fixed in the main branch

[quartz veldt]

Hi @cunning matrix I just downloaded BMM on my Mac, but after giving it the steam path, it's just stuck on the loading mods screen

[cunning matrix]

Try restarting the app. Sometimes the github api hangs

[granite path]

really? its still happening on my end

the one from 2 days ago?

[quartz veldt]

I've tried doing that multiple times; even restarted my Mac once, but to no effect

[ocean meadow]

It's on the main branch, just hasn't been made into a release yet I'd imagine

[granite path]

ah

[cunning matrix]

Just do this:

git clone https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager.git
cd balatro-mod-manager && deno install --allow-scripts
task release

btw you need task now

[cunning matrix]

Mhmm, clear cache?

in settings

[quartz veldt]

Tried that as well 😭 no luck

[cunning matrix]

wth

I had this issue too once

but only because of github

[quartz veldt]

is there some additional step I'm missing apart from the run .dmg and install?

[cunning matrix]

Nah it's still weird tho

Could you try building it from source?

[quartz veldt]

the manual installation commands?

[cunning matrix]

this

[quartz veldt]

command not found: task

[ocean meadow]

Click the link above to install task

[quartz veldt]

oh shit I forgot to install task after I installed homebrew

"cargo": executable file not found in $PATH

[ocean meadow]

did you install cargo

[quartz veldt]

I just did, but now it says

[ocean meadow]

install tauri

lol

[quartz veldt]

fair enough. but

[ocean meadow]

Now that I don't know how to help with, cause I'm not familiar with Tauri

[quartz veldt]

F

[cunning matrix]

anyways

here is a new update: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.6

[quartz veldt]

yay, it loaded. cheers!

[cunning matrix]

Have fun!

[strong ginkgo]

been crashing ever since i downloaded the mod manager, crashing even without mods installed. any chance i could get some help from someone who understands this stuff.

[cunning matrix]

What

Verifiy game integrity?

[strong ginkgo]

tried that, still crashing

[vagrant plover]

I'm assuming you're also crashing when launching normally through steam?

[strong ginkgo]

yeah

[vagrant plover]

lemme take you to #⚙・modding-general then

[strong ginkgo]

can send crash log

[severe cape]

I'd like to add my mod in this, but i dont really know how github works. How would i do it?

i saw the guide but i dont know how to commit in the first place

nvm

[cunning matrix]

you got it?

[severe cape]

i decided to check it tomorrow as i need to sleep rn.

[odd solar]

Question. Can the mod manager be used with the pc gamepass version

[cunning matrix]

If you set the path right, it might

[inland pawn]

This is my first time installing the modmanager and it's crashing immediately as I try to open it

[odd solar]

L homie

[inland pawn]

Love you bro

[odd solar]

💀

[cunning matrix]

Which platform are you on?

[inland pawn]

I'm on PC using the gamepass version. But the modmanager is crashing on startup. I haven't been able to do anything yet

I might have misunderstood what you meant but if it helps I'm using Windows 11

[wheat wave]

Gamepass version won't work until Lovely implements support for it, which is in-progress but uncertain at the moment

[wheat wave]

Gamepass version uses the Xbox folder structure, and appears to save to %AppData%/love but Lovely might change that when they add support for it, so keep an eye out for that

[inland pawn]

Alrighty. I'll keep an eye on updates. Thank you very much!!

[quartz veldt]

Hey, so I was trying to get Steamodded installed. I did manage to do that, but BMM isn't recognizing Steamodded? can't install any mods that use it

[wheat wave]

Did you install Steamodded through BMM or manually?

Steamodded is ignorant of anything it didn't do itself

[quartz veldt]

Manually

[quartz veldt]

that fixed it. Thanks!

[wicked ermine]

so, the mods are updated automatically or how does it work? Cheers!

[cunning matrix]

This feature is not implemented yet. You'd just have to uninstall and install for now

[quartz veldt]

Just wanted to confirm - using BMM doesn't affect achievements or unlocks, right?

[vagrant plover]

BMM has no impact on any such things

on the other hand, Steamodded does

check the mods -> config tab if you'd like to change anything about it

[quartz veldt]

ah, got it. what does the disable mod badges thing do?
and what's the difference between enabling achievements and bypass restrictions?

[vagrant plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1339007865003966557/image.png?ex=67c2e880&is=67c19700&hm=6b94663cbd098c7153d874d455e555b1185d5af4c1ba82d40d676f272a5c052b&

the "SDM_0's Stuff" and "Card Sleeves" stuff are the badges

[thin dust]

Mod badges

[vagrant plover]

yeah, exactly

[thin dust]

Basically smods has Which Mod is This From already

[vagrant plover]

as for enabling achievements/bypass restrictions, see #1209564621644505158 message

[cunning matrix]

@quartz veldt how is the manager so far

[severe cape]

alright now i need help

i have no idea on how to commit

[quartz veldt]

pretty nice xD. loving it so far.

[cunning matrix]

read the README https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

[severe cape]

i have everything set but i dont know how to commit on github

[cunning matrix]

https://github.com/git-guides/git-commit

[cunning matrix]

@severe cape

(put the wrong image)

before

[severe cape]

thank you

[worn hound]

Just want to confirm, we're fine to submit manifests for mods others have made, or are the cases I'm seeing pre-authorized in a sense?

Btw might be nice to have a reinstall/version-switch button for mods, since updating steamodded via force uninstall and reselecting latest seems a bit unintuitive

Also strangely when I click a link in a mod desc it tries to open the link like 7 times at once?

[wheat wave]

It's best to have permission from the mod author if it's not your mod. Some authors might fairly take issue with having their mod distributed outside of their preferred platforms and the actual legalities of distributing mods outside of/against the authors permissions are very complicated.

[wheat wave]

That's interesting, I thought that bug had been fixed weeks ago. Are you using the latest BMM v0.1.6?

[worn hound]

Yup, tapped the wiki page button and

[worn hound]

Thanks for clarifying, hadn't been sure if it was permitted since it's just metadata around pulling it from their git as far as I could tell, but that's understandable, guess I'll just have to be careful around installing stuff next to the manager when needed

[cunning matrix]

❕UPDATE: New Release: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.7

Big thanks to @viral locust . He contributed a lot to the project

and @rare mango , who created the cool Icon & Logo for BMM

[rare mango]

I'm a brand identity andy fr

[glass sleet]

just out of curiosity, whats the reason that validating the database removes mods not on the manager
i dont mind reinstalling house rules every so often since everything else i really want for now (except for extra credit iirc) is on the manager index but hey one can hope right

[cunning matrix]

There is absolutely no way to map the mods from their repos with local mods, because of GitHub's API rate limitting

That's why the mod manager needs to track it itself

[glass sleet]

i mean, fair enough

[ornate pawn]

any way to get this working on the pc gamepass/ms store version?

[cunning matrix]

Marked mods work now. Now, we're gonna work on the history for them

[wheat wave]

Heyo - you know how I pestered you to do this? #1339375696254074942 message
Now that Steamodded has released BETA 0301a, would you switch the default back to the old method of getting the latest release? The fixed releases might be a slightly more dependable and reliable source from now on - Cryptid is already broken on newer Beta versions for example

[cunning matrix]

But it already does get the latest release, no?

[wheat wave]

Looks like the download button on the minified version pulls from the latest head (https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/heads/main.zip),

whereas the download button on the full mod page goes to the latest Release at (https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/1.0.0-beta-0301a.zip)

[wheat wave]

This one is probably the more reliable version for more people currently

But honestly who the hell knows what might change in the next week

I'm just trying to push for the wider adoption of fixed Releases in an attempt to make things a little more stable

[cunning matrix]

Yeah I'll look into this

Could you still make an Issue

So I don't forget

[vagrant plover]

I beg for no more breaking changes in steamodded

[worn hound]

So updating calls for deleting the db, but how do you rebuild your modlist after that? Just hit install on everything you had or would validate database resync it?

[desert falcon]

as per your request, there will never be quantum ranks /j

-# also the breakingness of a change is relative, any of our code could be targeted by lovely patches from other mods

[vagrant plover]

Breaking changes that are tested, well documented, and properly announced are very different from "oopsie, didn't test any mods with that" breaking changes 😭

[desert falcon]

sowwy 😭

[cunning matrix]

validating the database would just check if the database has unvalid records or if there are any mods in the directory which are not in the database

[wheat wave]

Lovely patches of Steamodded aren't using the API at all, it's totally fair to leave those in the dust. That seems like a shortsighted way for a mod to add a feature anyway, especially with Lua where everything is accessible.

[nimble minnow]

where could i find core modding framework?

[lusty remnant]

#1209564621644505158

[vital bridge]

add #1326135270759993364 when :>

i guess i am sending PRs

[waxen ether]

a

[cunning matrix]

Would you also work on every part of code related to this?:

#[cfg(target_os = "linux")

[waxen ether]

yes

ill work on linux-specific builds

[cunning matrix]

Sure, send the PR and I'll happily look into it

[waxen ether]

anyway the current setup is pretty janky so I'm planning to add Balatro support to Boson too so its easier to set up native linux

[cunning matrix]

@waxen ether how's it looking with the linux variant?

[waxen ether]

im busy on somethign else rn

ill get cooking when im finally free

[worn hound]

Multi Text Box can't be installed through BMM, doesn't give feedback if on the modpage but if tried from the list it gives this error

[ocean meadow]

Looks like an invalid download link was supplied to the index. I'm getting a 404 error when I click on the link in the repo

[wicked ermine]

so, every time I install a new version of the Mod Manager, it cannot see the mods I installed with the previous one. And yeah, I always delete the bmm file before updating

[bold salmon]

that would be why.. the bmm file stores what was downloaded

[cunning matrix]

fixed

[ocean copper]

quick question: does the author field on the description json support a list of names or just one string?

[wheat wave]

Only a string, but can be arbitrarily long, so you can just write multiple authors formatted however you want

LawyerRed and his dad and his pet dog and his neighbour from 2 doors down

[ocean copper]

awesome, thanks!

[cunning matrix]

EVERYONE UPDATE TO v0.1.8 SO IT WORKS:
https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.8

In-app mod opening & folder naming is now supported

[iron tundra]

is there a way to disable/renable mods or do i have to delete them entirely?

[cunning matrix]

You can do that using steamodded

btw

@iron tundra does the latest version of the mod manager work for you?

[iron tundra]

i actually don't knwo what version im using, if its the one before the current one or what

[cunning matrix]

You can look at the about page

Down below it should tell you which version you're using

[iron tundra]

then its likely im not using 1.8

[cunning matrix]

upgrade

[winged kite]

Reporting here, but the Fusion Jokers Github currently on the mod index has been incompatible with SMODS since October

So downloading it via BMM will crash

ehh ig this is an index issue

[worn hound]

Oh so thats why

[oak sleet]

yeah the elbe patch fixes that crash

[cunning matrix]

Yo could someone update their description on their mod rq? I want to test the github action

@versed socket ?

[vagrant plover]

I can do it

I should anyway

[cunning matrix]

Great

[versed socket]

will be able to in about an hour

[vagrant plover]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/pull/96

[cunning matrix]

holy shit

[vagrant plover]

hey that's a pretty big speed-up

[versed socket]

fr

[warm dove]

Hey all, just double checking because it's my first time checking this out, do I need to download the mod index as well as the manager? It's been stuck saying "Loading mods..." for like five minutes now so I figured I'd ask

[main nexus]

Nah you don't, the mod index is just what the manager pulls from... Or something like that, I'm not involved in the guts of it

Basically no you only need the manager

[cunning matrix]

Sometimes it takes a while since the mod manager requires GitHub's API

So what's really loading is GitHub

[warm dove]

I got it working just now, I had actually missed a step during the initial install! Thanks y'all! : D

[cunning matrix]

Working on updating feature now

[vagrant plover]

Ooohh sick

what's your implementation?

[cunning matrix]

I'm gonna change the mod index again

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/issues/98

It works right now

[vagrant plover]

Yeah this https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/compare/main...98-implement-version-parameter makes sense. How does it update? Manually?

[cunning matrix]

wdym?

@vagrant plover The dev would update the latest version manually in the index, so it would show up in the manager

[vagrant plover]

Yeah that's a pretty good stopgap. The dream of course would be automatic version handling

[cunning matrix]

Any Ideas on the implementation?

[vagrant plover]

My thoughts last time this was talked about was using github actions to inspect the downloadURL and attempt to grab the latest version from the mod's repo manifest json automatically.
Kinda janky though, ngl

[tidal hedge]

I used some jank ass checking for commit dates for the mod list spreadsheet so that might be an avenue to look down too

[cunning matrix]

honestly might give it a try

[vagrant plover]

Hmm, last commit would also work I suppose

[cunning matrix]

but if we have more than 1000 mods then it's shit

[vagrant plover]

Is that chatGPT? haha

[cunning matrix]

Perplexity

it looked it up

[vagrant plover]

potato tomato

[cunning matrix]

what do you guys think

[vagrant plover]

Good limit to keep in mind, though I don't think we're anywhere close yet haha

[cunning matrix]

yeahh let's do

I'll try hold on

1000 requests / hour is pretty alright ngl

So checking the latest commit right?

[vagrant plover]

Oh btw, if we do use some sort of "auto-version detection", some way of opting out might be nice

[cunning matrix]

or release

[cunning matrix]

wdym

[vagrant plover]

some mod makers might want to dictate their releases/versioning themselves, for whatever reason 🤷‍♂️

[vagrant plover]

latest release might honestly work better the more I think about it

[cunning matrix]

check if releases are available and use those, if not use latest commit

[cunning matrix]

So, like this?

"automatic-version-control": true

[vagrant plover]

yeah that should work

just needs to be a boolean and an understandable key

[tidal hedge]

Might be better as an opt out rather than in

[cunning matrix]

But I would need to refactor every json file

[vagrant plover]

not if it's opt-out, right?

[tidal hedge]

Dont you need to do that to add a version anyway?

[cunning matrix]

No, it's optional

[tidal hedge]

Oh true, but an opt out flag would also be optional

[cunning matrix]

Alright

So it looks like I implemented it right

Best testing place is production ofc

[cunning matrix]

New version guys: https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.9

[vagrant plover]

ooh, nice

someone was having issues installing Divvy's Balatro Preview mod btw, not sure why it went wrong #⚙・modding-general message

[worldly carbon]

hey how do i get mods to show up? running latest version

[high heath]

same ^

[worldly carbon]

nvm

[cunning matrix]

Did you remove bmm_storage.db and cleared cache?

[worldly carbon]

i just cleared cache and it started working

[paper marsh]

quick question, is the latest version of cryptid in the database

[cunning matrix]

great

[cunning matrix]

yus

[paper marsh]

nice

[cunning matrix]

Btw the automated updating bot is live https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index 🎉

look https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/commit/91e075cb442bd61802b5216137c96147f2fe5ec1

I think I broke something

shit

[paper marsh]

ok im confused on how to update the mod manager

[worldly carbon]

weird error i got when testing steamodded

only steamodded was installed

[paper marsh]

nevermind i am just silly

[cunning matrix]

OHH shit

shit guys

My bad

I'll fix it rq

[worldly carbon]

second error after closing out the first one

unusable while panicking? is that a lobo corp reference

[glad pilot]

heeyyy just installed it and no mods are showing up

[paper marsh]

its an error type in the .lua language i believe

[worldly carbon]

try refreshing the cache

[glad pilot]

^like this but clearing cache didnt work

[glad pilot]

i did

[worldly carbon]

do it again

trust

[glad pilot]

i did

[worldly carbon]

i did it twice and it worked

[paper marsh]

same issue here, some code went and died, the dev of the mod manager is working on it i believe

[cunning matrix]

Hold on

I am fixing it

one line of code casued this ussue

because I am stupid

[glad pilot]

its aight

[cunning matrix]

Alright

I updated the release

download now

[glad pilot]

this seams like a amazing tool

[cunning matrix]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-manager/releases/tag/v0.1.9

I updated the executables

Guys please give me updates

[high heath]

kk

[worldly carbon]

ominous message

[paper marsh]

is working now, i can see mods now

[cunning matrix]

Perfect

[high heath]

yep same

[worldly carbon]

reinstalled and got the same error

[cunning matrix]

Did you install the latest version?

[worldly carbon]

yes

[cunning matrix]

Like I updated it 3+ min ago

the binary

I think this error is being caused by a mod and not the manager tbh

[worldly carbon]

i just have steamodded

im gonna reinstall

[cunning matrix]

sure

You can try another version

And validate the database

in the settings

[worldly carbon]

man fuck avast for constantly flagging bmm

[cunning matrix]

@lusty remnant Can you check if it's ok, because I enabled automatic version checking in the index

[cunning matrix]

avast is a virus itself tbh

windows defender is good enough

[worldly carbon]

at least you can disable the ads to make it decent

just dont open avast and you'll be fine

[cunning matrix]

I'm telling you, Avast (or any other anti virus other than windows defender) is complete bullshit

In 2025 you don't need it anymore

[worldly carbon]

virustotal:

[cunning matrix]

@wheat wave could you help me add the automatic-version-check parameter to some mods in the mod index?

Or anyone

Just pr

[worldly carbon]

hey does bmm auto-inject or do i have to install lovely

[cunning matrix]

It'll install lovely for you

[worldly carbon]

aight

[cunning matrix]

@fluid kayak please?

[fluid kayak]

like so?

[cunning matrix]

yess

[fluid kayak]

i imagine true for mods that download from a refs/heads and false for those that download from a release or something else right

[cunning matrix]

It'll download from the latest release (if there is one) and it'll use the latest commit

[fluid kayak]

that only makes me more confused

[cunning matrix]

So it would use this commit for you currently

[fluid kayak]

gotcha

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index/pull/103

can do more later if necessary

but just to get it started

and make sure im doing it right

[vagrant plover]

update lovely

[cunning matrix]

Thanks a lot

@fluid kayak could you make a commit to your mod rq

So I could check if it worked

[fluid kayak]

https://github.com/cg-223/toomanyjokers/commit/262e4b2a675b4e1cd5fb8511d5d0cb73623fdb6e

[cunning matrix]

@fluid kayak less goooo

[fluid kayak]

sick

[vagrant plover]

Ooohh 👀

[bitter pike]

i have steammodded installed but this mod still tells me i need it

any help appreciated

nvm i have it working now

[lusty remnant]

?

Like that Cryptid is good?

I can check in the loader tonight, but we put out a release yesterday so it shouldn’t break anything

[cunning matrix]

No I mean for the auto versioning

[lusty remnant]

I can’t check for another hour or so anyway since I’m not home

But are you referring to the mod manager working at all or Cryptid working with auto versioning enabled?

Oh you mean a commit

I can test that

[cunning matrix]

No, did you enable auto versioning in the index

[lusty remnant]

Lemme do that now, sry for the delay

[cunning matrix]

All good

[lusty remnant]

I gtg now actually sry

Think I was able to make the PR

To enable auto versioning

I am back

[granite path]

shitty ai art jumpscare

[fluid kayak]

💔

[cunning matrix]

@lusty remnant are you there?

How does Steamodded check for the manifest.json (or any json). Like, where is the schema for that??

I can't find it

or @fluid kayak do you have any idea?

[fluid kayak]

uhhh no clue

[vagrant plover]

filename:lower():match('%.json') and depth > 1
and

                    local success, e = pcall(function()
                        -- remove invalid fields and check required ones first
                        for k, v in pairs(json_spec) do
                            if v.type and type(mod[k]) ~= v.type then mod[k] = nil end
                            if v.required and mod[k] == nil then error(k) end
                        end
                        -- perform additional checks and fill in defaults
                        for k, v in pairs(json_spec) do
                            if v.default then mod[k] = mod[k] or v.default end
                            if v.check then v.check(mod, mod[k]) end
                        end
                    end)
                    if not success then 
                        valid = false
                        err = e
                    end
                end
                if not valid then
                    sendErrorMessage(('Found invalid metadata JSON file at %s, ignoring: %s'):format(file_path, err), 'Loader')

the json spec in question: https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/blob/main/src/loader.lua#L76

[cunning matrix]

Thankss

[lusty remnant]

back now

and yeah the JSON filename doesn't matter

when it was added originally it was abc.json for some reason

[vagrant plover]

that sounds like Aure forgetting to change testing code 🤣

I don't think this intended btw lol

[vagrant plover]

Oh and Divvy's Balatro Preview is completely broken when installing through the mod manager btw. Probably because it actually unzips into 3 "different" mods lol

[wheat wave]

Hmm, supporting zipped folders containing multiple separate mods is likely to be a real pain...

[wheat wave]

Just checking in while I'm stopped for lunch, I'm fully booked and short on time until late tonight, but i can write a script to fix up the remaining mods in about 9 hours time. What does automatic-version-check affect, and is it a required param?

[vagrant plover]

Yeah I would understand if it got removed from the index lol

[wheat wave]

Even trying to upload them as separate mods might be better, but without a way to specify dependencies besides Steamodded and Talisman, that would probably cause almost as many problems as it would solve

[vagrant plover]

Agreed. A full-fledged dependency system would probably be a good addition

[cunning matrix]

latest version fixed this, no?

[glass sleet]

wait do we have updating from the application now

[cunning matrix]

yes

Working on local mods now

[ocean meadow]

Would the local mods feature detect a locally installed Smods and satisfy the dependency for mods installed through the bmm?

[cunning matrix]

yus

[ocean meadow]

It would be cool if you'd be able to update local mods through the bmm and have it convert to the bmm version of the mod

But that's probably asking too much

[cunning matrix]

implementing it right now as we speak

[ocean meadow]

very nice

[lusty remnant]

one kind of annoying but low priority thing
the update mod versions workflow is running and failing every hour on my fork - and I kept getting emails every hour about it lol

[cunning matrix]

yeah that's normal haha you have to set the secret

alright that's enough for today

I'll do the rest in a few hours

les go 2hrs of sleep

[vagrant plover]

Oh yikes, I don't think the workflow should run on forks haha, that might be a little annoying for other people.
I'm not very familiar with github workflows, but some sort of check to prevent it from erroring/running would be nice, e.g. either

• checking whether the secret is set: https://github.com/smallstep/cli/blob/94f3d85d3de96deb01e0dbc1b60596ecda12ac43/.github/workflows/triage.yml#L29-L31
• checking whether the repo owner is skyline: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/26409

[vagrant plover]

unless you're talking about having fixed this in main, this is definitely present on release v0.1.9

[worn hound]

Would it be possible to get the mod tags shown in a mod's page?

[worldly carbon]

please add a "view mod folder" button for convenience and troubleshooting

[versed socket]

only problems i see are:

1. we can’t delete mods directly from manager, and deleting them manually still shows them as installed
2. it doesn’t work well if we already have some mods installed

[vagrant plover]

1. You should be able to delete mods you installed through the manager, no? If you delete them manually then it unfortunately won't work properly and you'll need to reindex yeah
2. True, but skyline is working on that right now #1339375696254074942 message

[versed socket]

for 1), i tested like 2 weeks ago and it wasn’t working but maybe it’s something on my side only. i don’t use the mod manager so it’s ok

[fluid kayak]

2 weeks is quite a bit considering this manager has only been out on windows for a couple months

[soft shell]

did anyone get Cryptid to work through the mod manager on MacOS? game keeps crashing for me 😭

[desert meadow]

i think the issue might be that cryptid requires a more up to date steamodded than the one in the mod manager

[soft shell]

i tried manually installing steammodded from the github instead of using the mod manager's version and it still crashed

manually installing cryptid seems to work

[lusty remnant]

@desert falcon should we make a new release of Steamodded in that case?

[cunning matrix]

you can literally select the latest version of steamodded in the mod manager

[desert falcon]

I love uncoordinated releases

[desert meadow]

the latest version on the steamodded github isnt updated enough for cryptid either

go to the cryptid github and there should be a link

[soft shell]

yeah i got it to work, thanks

[cunning matrix]

current state

[tidal hedge]

Does this need its own page? Wouldn’t it be better on a whole installed mods page?

[tidal hedge]

Oh I see

I’m not sure they need separating if there’s an identifier on the mod itself

[ocean heart]

cause some mods arent on the catalog

i assume that identifier is ripped from the smods metadata

[vagrant plover]

Looking nice

[cunning matrix]

Looking good so far

[vagrant plover]

seems to be some weird cutoff on the text btw? 🤔

first char in the description

[cunning matrix]

yeah yeah ez to fix

[uneven leaf]

@cunning matrix Handsome Devils mod fork added!

waiting approval :)

[cunning matrix]

@uneven leaf check PR

[granite path]

why not just have it pull from thunderstore or like gamebanana or something

[cunning matrix]

wdym?

[granite path]

like instead of having people submit mods to the github or wtv

[uneven leaf]

like this?