is something like what you mean? so then | Balatro | Page 1

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:04 PM

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Not quite (new_mult is a number (or a talisman table)). What are you trying to do here?

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:04 PM

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ill send the joker effect if it'll help?

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so im trying to have a variable that stores the total mult before it changes, and a variable that stores the total mult after it changes. then i get the difference of the two numbers and add it to my chip count

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:07 PM

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rrright

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:09 PM

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the thing is i dont know when im supposed to call mult_postloss to store the mult at that point, which is why i was asking how to get the change earlier

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:09 PM

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yeah

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you're going to have to do your own bookkeeping for it, unfortunately

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:11 PM

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oh no,,,,

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:12 PM

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Here's what we'd do:

Keep track of the last known mult from mod_mult()
After mod_mult(), if there was a decrease, trigger jokers in a custom context
At the end of scoring, reset the last known mult

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:13 PM

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right okay

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from what i have at the moment what would i have to change to start witht that

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:21 PM

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This is what we'd do. Do you understand how this works?

--[[
Mult Decrease scoring context by BakersDozenBagels.
Replace `My_Mod_Id` with your mod ID.
When mult decreases, triggers all Jokers with `context = { My_Mod_Id_mult_decrease = decrease_amount }`
--]]

local last_mult = 0
local raw_mod_mult = mod_mult
-- mod_mult is used after any mult change to apply effects like Rich Get Richer
function mod_mult(...)
    local new_mult = raw_mod_mult(...)
    if new_mult < last_mult then
        for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
            G.jokers.cards[i]:calculate_joker({
                My_Mod_Id_mult_decrease = last_mult - new_mult,
            })
        end
    end
    last_mult = new_mult
    return new_mult
end

-- Reset our tracker at the end of the round so we don't see a fake decrease
local raw_G_FUNCS_evaluate_play = G.FUNCS.evaluate_play
function G.FUNCS.evaluate_play(...)
    raw_G_FUNCS_evaluate_play(...)
    last_mult = 0
end

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:23 PM

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i can try to hold on
let me use my 12-day old lua brain and comprehend

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:25 PM

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sure

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:30 PM

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so it

creates a variable called last_mult
creates a second variable and assigns it the value of the current GLOBAL mod_mult

then within a function using the global mult mod as a point of origin,

creates a variable and sets it equal to something going on with the local mod_mult

then if that variable is less than the value of last_mult,

it sets ANOTHER variable equal to the difference between last_mult and new_mult
then regardless of whether that last if was true or not it sets last equal to new
then it returns new_mult

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as for that last bit at the end it looks like it

creates a variable to pull the global value of the evaluate_play function

then within the global evaluation function

it does something or other with the local value and resets last_mult

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at least that's my guess

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:35 PM

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so what a hook does: it replaces a function (usually one from the base game) but still uses the original. In this case, we're just doing something after to original function is called (but we don't really care about what that function is doing, in particular)

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this is all that's happening with the fluff removed: (note that this won't run)

local last_mult = 0
function after_mult_changes(new_mult)
    if new_mult < last_mult then
        trigger_every_joker_with({ My_Mod_Id_mult_decrease = last_mult - new_mult })
    end
    last_mult = new_mult
end

function after_evaluate_play()
    last_mult = 0
end

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:40 PM

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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so then do i still need the preloss postloss setup in calculate? or would i just change it

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:45 PM

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at this point your Joker doesn't need to worry about it at all

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it'd just need to check for the existence of My_Mod_Id_mult_decrease

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:45 PM

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oh wow thats awesome

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gonna edit the calculate function rq

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:54 PM

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stoic ferry it'd just need to check for the existence of `My_Mod_Id_mult_decrease`

ok i’ve got everything else
where do i check for this without imploding something?

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:55 PM

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Just in the calculate function

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:58 PM

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like “if [decreasevariable]”?

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actually wait no it’s a number value that won’t work whoops

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:59 PM

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yeah, just if context.My_Mod_Id_mult_decrease then ... end

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numbers are truthy

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 8:59 PM

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oh i was right nvm then phew

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 8:59 PM

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even 0 is truthy

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 9:01 PM

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    calculate = function (self, card, context)
        if context.joker_main then
            SMODS.calculate_effect(context.blueprint_card or card, {
            } )
            card.ability.extra.chips = card.ability.extra.mult_preloss - card.ability.extra.mult_postloss
            return{
                chips = card.ability.extra.chips,
            card = card
            }
        end
        if context.hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease and not context.blueprint_card then
            card.ability.extra.chips = card.ability.extra.chips + card.ability.extra.chip_gain
            return{
                message = 'Soul...',
                colour = G.C.CHIPS,
                card = card
            }
        end
    end

or should i have left context.before and just put and

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 9:03 PM

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you shouldn't need this, since you're handling it elsewhere

SMODS.calculate_effect(context.blueprint_card or card, {})
card.ability.extra.chips = card.ability.extra.mult_preloss - card.ability.extra.mult_postloss

and card.ability.extra.chip_gain should just be context.hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease

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but otherwise this looks correct

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 9:05 PM

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stoic ferry you shouldn't need this, since you're handling it elsewhere ```lua SMODS.calcula...

i literally just forgot to delete it lmfao

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 9:05 PM

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lmoa

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 9:06 PM

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and then i dont need to add it the config do i

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since it alr exists

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it's just chips in there

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 9:07 PM

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yep

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 9:08 PM

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    config = {
        extra = {
            chips = 0
        }
    },

    loc_vars = function (self, info_queue, card)
        return{vars = {
            card.ability.extra.chips
        }}
    end,

just making sure

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same thing with loc vars right

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 9:08 PM

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yep

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loc_vars only needs the things you're displaying anyways

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 9:09 PM

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thought so but i jsut wanted to make sure

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i guess moment of truth then right

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 9:10 PM

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ye

icy dirge Feb 5, 2025, 9:13 PM

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tested it with like the one boss that does it (the flint) and it works!

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i will forever be grateful for your help

stoic ferry Feb 5, 2025, 9:14 PM

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awesome!

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love to hear it

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:22 AM

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stoic ferry ye

hey so i dont know if you pay attention to this old thing anymore, but since it's about the same function i figured i'll just say it again in here. now that i'm trying to get the jokers to support talisman, the hook function breaks.

specifically, at if new_mult < last_mult then as it's trying to compare a table with a number.

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i know it's a talisman thing specifically, since talisman converts the entire mult system into a table. (plus i tested with it off and it worked fine) do you know what i'd have to do here to fix this?

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:24 AM

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you could check type(last_mult) == "table", and if so use the talisman comparison function

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:26 AM

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got it
let me try and figure that out rq

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wait why last_mult?

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that gets set to 0 at the beginning, while new_multgets set to the function of raw_mod_mult

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actually i should

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--mult-decrease scoring context designed by BakersDozenBagels below!

local last_mult = 0
local raw_mod_mult = mod_mult
-- mod_mult is used after any mult change to apply effects like Rich Get Richer
function mod_mult(...)
    local new_mult = raw_mod_mult(...)
    if new_mult < last_mult then
        for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
            G.jokers.cards[i]:calculate_joker({
               hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease = last_mult - new_mult,
            })
        end
    end
    last_mult = new_mult
    return new_mult
end

-- Reset our tracker at the end of the round so we don't see a fake decrease
local raw_G_FUNCS_evaluate_play = G.FUNCS.evaluate_play
function G.FUNCS.evaluate_play(...)
    raw_G_FUNCS_evaluate_play(...)
    last_mult = 0
end

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shouldve done that sooner actually whoops

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OH CAUSE IT GETS SET TO NEW AT THE END DUH

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i may be stupid

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:39 AM

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stoic ferry you could check `type(last_mult) == "table"`, and if so use the talisman compari...

would that be placed up in this to_big function up top?

to_big = to_big or function(a)
    return a
end

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or would i be doing that check in the middle of the hook?

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:41 AM

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i'd do it in the middle (because iirc __lt doesn't work in Lua 5.1)

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:42 AM

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mmm ok

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:43 AM

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stoic ferry you could check `type(last_mult) == "table"`, and if so use the talisman compari...

ok wait can you dumb down what you mean a little by this though

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i might get the gist but not the executino

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on

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:45 AM

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so when Talisman exists, the mult numbers might be tables (instead of numbers). In Lua 5.1, < doesn't work on tables, so instead you can check if either of the numbers is a table (or both if you want to be safe) and if so use the Talisman comparison instead of the normal one

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:46 AM

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yeah that's the part i dont get

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what part of it would i check to see if there's any tables

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like the specific line that causes the crash is if new_mult < last_mult then

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would i put some sort of system on that line?

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:47 AM

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yep, exactly

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as an overview it'd become something like if (<Talisman> and <Talisman Comparison>) or (not <Talisman> and a < b) then

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:48 AM

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oh wow really

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ok let me see then

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wait i mean

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    if (to_big and to_big(1)) or (not to_big and new_mult < last_mult) then

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yeah?

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:52 AM

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instead of to_big(1), use to_big(new_mult):lt(to_big(last_mult))

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you still want to compare, just not using <

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:53 AM

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wait but i thought lt didnt work

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or is this different

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:53 AM

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__lt (the underscores are important) is something in a metatable that makes < work

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:54 AM

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ohhhhh

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:54 AM

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Num:lt() is a normal function

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:55 AM

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ok ok i got it i see

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nvm that sucks

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if (to_big and to_big(new_mult):lt(to_big(last_mult))) or (not to_big and new_mult < last_mult) then

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like that right

stoic ferry Feb 20, 2025, 4:59 AM

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ye

icy dirge Feb 20, 2025, 4:59 AM

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ok then

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moment of truth 2!

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it works!!

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tysm again

icy dirge Feb 27, 2025, 10:08 PM

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stoic ferry instead of `to_big(1)`, use `to_big(new_mult):lt(to_big(last_mult))`

ive been trying to fix the talisman compatibilty after the steamodded and talisman updates,
i was advised to store the last mult there on that line (i already have the joker check)

what's the best way to store it? from what ive been told :lt isnt necessary anymore

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 12:47 AM

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icy dirge ive been trying to fix the talisman compatibilty after the steamodded and talism...

this should already be correct (just by looking at it)

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 12:47 AM

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okay but it doesn’t work

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 12:47 AM

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have you tried testing it in-game?

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 12:47 AM

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that’s how i know it doesn’t work lmfao

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 12:48 AM

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loam

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uhhhhh

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 12:49 AM

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i’ll send what it looks like as a whole rn

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SMODS.Joker{ --Cyanosis/Blue Baby
    key = 'cyanosis',
    config = {
        extra = {
            chips = 0
        }
    },
    rarity = 1,
    atlas = 'IsaacJokers',
    pos = {x = 4, y = 1},
    cost = -1,
    unlocked = false,
    discovered = false,
    blueprint_compat = true,
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = true,
    loc_vars = function (self, info_queue, card)
        return{vars = {
            card.ability.extra.chips
        }}
    end,
    calculate = function (self, card, context)
        if context.joker_main then
            return{
                chips = card.ability.extra.chips,
            card = card
            }
        end
        if context.hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease and (to_big(card.ability.extra.chips) > to_big(1)) and not context.blueprint_card then
            card.ability.extra.chips = card.ability.extra.chips + (context.hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease * 10)
            return{
                message = 'Soul...',
                colour = G.C.CHIPS,
                card = card
            }
        end
    end
} ]]

--mult-decrease scoring context designed by BakersDozenBagels below!

local last_mult = 0
local raw_mod_mult = mod_mult ]]

-- mod_mult is used after any mult change to apply effects like Rich Get Richer
function mod_mult(...)
    local new_mult = raw_mod_mult(...)
    if to_big(new_mult) < to_big(last_mult) then
        for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
            if G.jokers.cards[i].config.center_key == 'j_hpfx_cyanosis' then
                G.jokers.cards[i]:calculate_joker({
                    hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease = last_mult - new_mult,
                })
            end
            
        end
    end
    last_mult = new_mult
    return new_mult
end ]]

-- Reset our tracker at the end of the round so we don't see a fake decrease

local raw_G_FUNCS_evaluate_play = G.FUNCS.evaluate_play
function G.FUNCS.evaluate_play(...)
    raw_G_FUNCS_evaluate_play(...)
    last_mult = 0
end

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 12:53 AM

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try just moving last_mult = new_mult to right above local new_mult = raw_mod_mult(...)? that's what the other person is suggesting

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 12:55 AM

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is that really it

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cause new_mult isnt defined yet

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 12:56 AM

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yyyeah

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uh what flavor of "not working" is it?

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 12:57 AM

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well it just wont trigger

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unless this is the version where it crashes

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hold on

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it's the version where it crashes

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 12:59 AM

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which line is that?

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 12:59 AM

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if to_big(new_mult) < to_big(last_mult) then

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the one we used to have also crashed it though

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curse/blessing of an updated smods ig

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i took the og one to the guys in modding-dev and basically reduced it to what you see here

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i ve also since moved the conversion function to the main file

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could that be a factor actually

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:02 AM

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icy dirge it's the version where it crashes

whole crash btw my bad

📎 message.txt

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:04 AM

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ah, this is without talisman

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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wait is it

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hold on

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oh yeah that was the other thing
the old code ended up making talisman a dependency instead of a compatibility

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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you can put to_big = to_big or function(...) return ... end somewhere to polyfill the function

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i.e. to make it work with or without talisman

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:06 AM

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stoic ferry you can put `to_big = to_big or function(...) return ... end` somewhere to polyf...

oh so instead of a

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:08 AM

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this is just defining the function if it doesn't exist

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:08 AM

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yeah what we had before was the same thing but with a instead of ...

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:08 AM

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yeah

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:08 AM

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fixing

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also gonna try it with talisman ON before i fix that

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ok THATS the one where Does nothing? occurs

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adding the ellipsis ix

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fix

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still no chip gain...

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:15 AM

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Is it adding the chips but not showing a message?

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:16 AM

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no it just isnt adding them

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:16 AM

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hmmm

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hey what did you mean by (to_big(card.ability.extra.chips) > to_big(1))

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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so the values can use talisman?

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check the recent messages in the Talisman thread hold on

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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as it stands you're only increasing the chips if the chips are at least 1

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and it starts out at 0, so you never add chips

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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no way it’s that easy

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you’re lying

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dont do this to me

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stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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a solid 72% of programming is stupid tiny mistakes that break everything and take hours to find

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you'll recover eventually :3

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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part of me is hoping it doesn’t work is that weird

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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that's not weird

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:23 AM

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“but why does it work for my other guy?” i was going to say

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it starts

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with chips

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and mult

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it’s totally gonna work isn’t it 😭

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wait so i just change it to 0 right

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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i'd get rid of that whole condition

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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oh

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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why even check at all

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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will it still work with talisman without it

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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it should

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i.e. if context.hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease and (to_big(card.ability.extra.chips) > to_big(1)) and not context.blueprint_card then -> if context.hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease and not context.blueprint_card then
(which shouldn't change compatibility)

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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i got it dw

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it didn’t work GUMI_CAN_FINALLY

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but also it didn’t work imsickofyourshitbrother

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:27 AM

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askjldghalksdfgjhaldsfg

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:27 AM

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is it something with the hook maybe?

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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you can spam log messages everywhere (temporarily) to see what's going on

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oh you also mistyped center.key as center_key

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:29 AM

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WHAT

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ok so

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how do i set up a log message again

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before i mess up

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:32 AM

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sendInfoMessage(message, "Logger Name")

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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what do i put for logger name

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just DebugPlus?

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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doesn't matter a lot, i'd do "Hyperfixation"

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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real

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and message is supposed to just be message right

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:35 AM

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well it's whatever you're logging

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:36 AM

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so if i said sendInfoMessage(mod_mult, “Hyperfixation”)

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:36 AM

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ye

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:36 AM

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ok cool

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how's this

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:41 AM

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move the last_mult = new_mult back to where it was

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:41 AM

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oh ok

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:41 AM

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but yes that should be fine

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:44 AM

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why is the code red oh no

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what's wrong here

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:44 AM

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oh you can't put something after the return

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:45 AM

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oh ok

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ill just move it behind then

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:45 AM

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sounds good

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:49 AM

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oh it didn’t

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like that

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stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:51 AM

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that's the first one (with mod_mult). use a string there instead (like "mod_mult called")
also the one with hyperfixation_mod_mult_decrease will just log nil

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:53 AM

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stoic ferry that's the first one (with `mod_mult`). use a string there instead (like `"mod_m...

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:53 AM

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mhm

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:55 AM

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didnt send the full crash oops

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📎 message.txt

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:59 AM

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did you by chance remove the return value

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 1:59 AM

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nope

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 1:59 AM

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hmm

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 2:05 AM

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what's the diagnosis, doc? NAILS

stoic ferry Feb 28, 2025, 2:06 AM

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I Don't Know, Sorry

icy dirge Feb 28, 2025, 2:06 AM

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aw man

icy dirge May 9, 2025, 5:50 PM

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@stoic ferry do you remember cyanosis? the guy with the mult context you made so i could get him working? sorry if this is too random for you, it just uhhh isnt gaining chips anymore and i dont know why

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obv i didnt wanna just send it out randomly so i just went to the old thread

stoic ferry May 9, 2025, 5:51 PM

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probably an SMODS update broke it

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as smods tends to do

icy dirge May 9, 2025, 5:52 PM

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that

makes sens

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are you any good with that sort of thing?

stoic ferry May 9, 2025, 5:53 PM

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yeah but it's kinda annoying

icy dirge May 9, 2025, 5:54 PM

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is it something you're willing to help with? alright if you arent

stoic ferry May 9, 2025, 5:54 PM

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not today at least

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i am Exhausted

icy dirge May 9, 2025, 5:55 PM

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oh wow sorry about that

#is something like what you mean? so then