viral beacon
Looks like the regular jimbo joker, but its sealed in a graded case.
Turns played cards into limited editions.
Limited edition cards are destroyed when played.
Meant as another avenue to make deck thinning more accessible and make some jokers more desirable
young timber
question wdym by limited edition cards
is that like a new thing you're making up for the game or
viral beacon
yes and I explained what they do
young timber
thats an interesting idea
why would I want them to be limited edition though
like what I do gain out of them turning into essentially perishable cards
viral beacon
I literally laid it out in the post
viral beacon
Meant as another avenue to make deck thinning more accessible and make some jokers more desirable
young timber
right but it sounds like a major problem with this idea would be your deck naturally running out
viral beacon
so you sell the joker
young timber
why would you buy the joker only to use it once
viral beacon
do you keep trading card for the whole run?
young timber
if anything I'd say it should be limited to making only the first hand of every round become limited edition
that would make it easier to control
and also make it like... worth buying/keeping
because sure you wanna destroy cards but you don't want to destroy all your cards
viral beacon
more control would be OP, it makes hanged man and immolate worthless
young timber
atleast with trading card it only does it with one card on the first discard
and its optional if you wanna do it since your first discard can be more than one card and it doesn't trigger trading card
trading card has a natural limit that doesn't allow itself to destroy too much
and you also like actually gain something out of it too, you get money from the trading card
what your card does is essentially just make your cards become perishable with no real gain
if anything its whole purpouse is the opposite of gain
viral beacon
the gain is you draw the cards that win after they perish for the rest of the run
young timber
I don't see it being useful unless you have something like Corrosion
young timber
the gain is you draw the cards that win after they perish for the rest of the ru...
wdym
what does "win after they perish for the rest of the run" mean
do you mean like it only triggers on the hand that made you win the blind
viral beacon
you turned all your face cards perishable in the last blind because you're running hack
they get destroyed
you can now play hack easier
young timber
so what do you do during the plant
viral beacon
who cares? the same thing you do when you're building face jokers
young timber
the main problem is that this is just too much destruction of your deck to be worth it I feel
so lets take your "destroy all the face cards" example
ok so you wanna enhance your hack joker
you play a 5 5 5 5 5 and it works really well
and then they become limited edition right
viral beacon
why the hell would I play them
young timber
... cause you have a hack?
viral beacon
the point of the joker is to thin your deck and then sell it
you're not going to keep it forever and ruin your deck
young timber
so what do you do when you get a hand with all 5s 4s 3s and 2s
young timber
but the point of a joker shouldn't be the sell it, unless of course selling it directly triggers something which this card does not
viral beacon
there's literally a joker in the game that the entire point is to sell it
viral beacon
young timber
you sell Luchador and it gives you a boss blind wipe
you sell the soda and it gives you a double tag
what does selling the graded joker give you
viral beacon
it gives you a joker slot and a thinner deck where you're more likely to draw your winning hands
young timber
ok but keep in mind this joker only triggers on cards you actually use hands on
viral beacon
yeah discards exist
young timber
how many times are you even expected to use before selling this thing
like in your theory
because think of it like this
you're playing the shitty hand to remove the shitty hand, but then you're also playing the shitty hand so it gives you a shitty score
if you play a hand that actually gives you a good score they become limited edition
young timber
you are essentially wasting hand to not even get rid of the cards that suck but to get rid of them after using them twice
young timber
it just sounds like an impractical joker
looks at the camera
young timber
is this thing like a common or what
viral beacon
I literally said its rare in the title
young timber
ah right sorry
honestly it could be a good pair with gift card
because then atleast you gain more from selling it
and also buying it
what about this
what if instead of turning cards limited in every hand you play
what if you could sell the joker during a round and that makes all the cards currently in your hand turn limited edition
that way when you play them they just go away anyways
plus selling the card to trigger its ability would also be in theme with it being a graded card
like if this is a joker that only really works for a limited number of times and then sold why not just make it be sold and then triggered at that point
plus atleast then you can use one hand to remove the limited edition cards instead of 2
viral beacon
that's just my idea but making it braindead, you're supposed to play around weird effect jokers
young timber
but why would you want to give yourself weird effect jokers lol
viral beacon
they're already in the game
viral beacon
I want someone else to comment on this
young timber
fine
split mountain
I want someone else to comment on this
No
Trading card is destroying a card every blind and it's already a contender for best joker in the game. I don't see how it's not utterly and absolutely broken to be able to destroy up to 5 cards each hand
viral beacon
because it doesn't do that, they get destroyed in the next blind if you happen to draw them and play them
they can also show up in tarot and spectral packs giving you fewer choices for seals or enhancements
split mountain
because it doesn't do that, they get destroyed in the next blind if you happen t...
It does that, just some turns later
viral beacon
the other guy's suggestion was way more OP
split mountain
Oh and because his suggestion is OP, yours can't be, right?
viral beacon
I think my version has way more cons to it to balance it
split mountain
I don't care about the cons when I can have an immolate every hand, it's still gonna be degenerate
viral beacon
its not immediately good, the presence of perishable playing cards can mess up booster packs, if they're debuffed in boss blinds you're still stuck with them, you have to actually draw them again later and play them if you want to destroy them and affects your score
if you don't run into this joker early you're most likely going to skip it
split mountain
Just because it doesn't do the thing right away doesn't mean it's a con. You're still trying to explain how destroying 5 cards every hand is not broken
And it's not only broken, but also completely and unfathomably giga broken
viral beacon
Just because it doesn't do the thing right away doesn't mean it's a con. You're ...
becuase you're not?
split mountain
It's a cryptid-tier joker
split mountain
becuase you're not?
You are
I play 20 shitty cards in 4 hands, some blinds later I have 20 less cards in my deck
The only "con" is that I have to trade some hands for deck fixing. Which is a very light con
young timber
not to mention combining this with Corrosion
split mountain
It's effectively 5 cards destroyed for 2 hands, because you have to play the cards again, I give you that
viral beacon
not to mention combining this with Corrosion
erosion sucks ass
no one cares about erosion
split mountain
Compare it to trading card which is 1 card destroyed for 1 discard, and it's already OP
split mountain
erosion sucks ass
Braindead take
viral beacon
woooaaaah a flat mult
split mountain
Good luck beating mid game without flat mult
viral beacon
I'll take literally any other flat mult
young timber
just for the record I do like the idea of basing a joker off of a graded card
the idea is good its just the ability needs work
split mountain
I'll take literally any other flat mult
And I'll take brainstorm over zany joker but the game doesn't always give me what i want, what's your point
When you need flat mult and the game gives you erosion, you take erosion. It's solid enough to do the job
viral beacon
I have a full deck, I'm not playing abandoned, haven't seen or used a hanged man or immolate and I've even opened a card pack
ypu its errosion time
what is the point of these stupid what ifs?
split mountain
Then don't pick it if you haven't destroyed a single card, do you really want me to tell you when it's good or not good to pick it ? You're doing as much what ifs as me
viral beacon
When you need flat mult and the game gives you erosion, you take erosion. It's solid enough to do the job
you're the one bringing up irrelevant what ifs
I just had an idea for a joker
young timber
quick question what would the design of limited edition playing cards look like
split mountain
I just had an idea for a joker
And it's broken
viral beacon
they have a little chromatic riff raff symbol in the corner
young timber
neat
spiral maple
this is a cool idea. maybe could use some tweaks, like adding editions to cards like foil etc, and destroying cards with editions for a bonus like x1.5 mult
or if you still used thhe idea of limited edition, you could have them score double chips or smth
mellow nacelle
It is absolutely broken
Simplifying the effect, it destroys every card you play until the joker is sold which is insane
Immolate destroys 5 random cards for $20 as a spectral card and that is already one of the best cards for deck thinning
Just for an example, if you one shot the blind with a flush, you can play 3 hands and remove around 12 cards which is a quarter of your deck, you can also use discards to keep your key cards safe
spiral maple
Just for an example, if you one shot the blind with a flush, you can play 3 hand...
you need to play a given card twice to remove it. the first time adds the limited edition, the second time scuffs the corner and makes it worthless
mellow nacelle
Oh alright, twice is marginally better
But it’s still pretty broken (well ig it’s the point of rare jokers)
To counterbalance it I think it should debuff played cards and destroy debuffed cards, that seems like a reasonable compromise
