Why doesn't Black Hole buff Constellation?

[grim siren]

If anything, it should increase the buff MORE instead of doing nothing...

[quick osprey]

It's a soul card

Honestly black hole not upgrading constellation was really dumb but it makes sense since it's technically not a planet card

[celest thorn]

Its just a really big planet card

I think it should count

[merry cobalt]

This just in, a black hole is a planet

(No, don't say pluto, eries or ceres, theyre all dwarf planets)

[gloomy bloom]

Isn't it a collapsed star?

[merry cobalt]

Yes

[celest thorn]

Really big card

not an actual planet

[grim siren]

It shows up in the Celestial packs, not the Spectral packs, so I think it should count as a planet.

[celest thorn]

It shows up in both

[waxen wasp]

would be funny if Blackhole makes Constellation lose x0.1 mult since its technically as 1 planet gone

[crimson flint]

Blackhole is a spectral card, but a special one with the layout of a planet card. Soul is similar, it is a spectral with the design of a tarot. But it does feel weird that it doesn’t do that. IMO, having QOL is more important than respecting vague rules.

[tender thicket]

does it trigger satellite

[gaunt moat]

No

[tender thicket]

it should, its a totally different planet card

[gaunt moat]

It’s not a planet

[tender thicket]

it is technically a planet-spectral

does soul trigger fortune teller

[waxen wasp]

it doesnt

cause both Soul and Blackhole,despite each representing in individual pack,still count as Spectral

[worn forge]

if constellation gained mult every time hands leveled up this change would make sense, but it explicitly only says planet cards

its like saying soul should count as a tarot card to fortune teller because it can only be found in tarot packs

[amber pendant]

loses x0.5 because of the death of a solar system

[gaunt moat]

Should black hole work with The Fool? It states that it creates the last planet used, just like how Constellation states it needs planets

[amber pendant]

wait does it?

it would be such a rare combo but maybe

[gaunt moat]

Black hole doesn't work with fool because it's a spectral

It also shows up in the spectral menu and not the planets

[merry cobalt]

So soul is a tarot and not a spectral?

[merry cobalt]

You said really big planet card: which was tong

Wrong*

[amber pendant]

no soul is spectral

[merry cobalt]

It was to them saying that blackhole should be a planet

I was pointing out how it doesn't really make sense unless you look at it in a vacuum

[amber pendant]

ohh

okay

[stark crater]

It can infact be something you painfully must do sometime. You're scaling up Constellation, and you might not take Black Hole and instead take a planet card.

[gaunt moat]

I like that it adds some nuance into your gameplay instead of being a must-take every time

[bleak topaz]

sometimes I’m explicitly avoiding scaling a hand type, so I can play it more times before the round ends (get through more of the deck, charge up scaling jokers more times)

so it might be correct for me to pick Pluto over Black Hole even without the Constellation interaction. but haven’t passed up Black Hole in a real game yet

[gaunt moat]

Something else you can do is Black Hole doesn't overwrite your Fool, so if you want to have Fool duplicate a specific planet then you could skip BH

[night shale]

Constellation specifically states “Planet card”, black holes aren’t a planet card or even a planet in general. They buff the level of hands, but there’s also other aspects of the game that do that which aren’t planet cards. Doesn’t make sense flavor wise or mechanic wise for black hole to trigger constellation

[valid mortar]

Counterpoint. It's decorated as a planet card and it functions as planet card. The only reason it isn't one is to avoid Fool (and thus perkeo & observatory) abuse.

[merry cobalt]

Yes, because just like soul they're spectral representations of the other packs..

Should soul count as a tarot for fool?

Because constellation mentions planet cards; so if blackhole counts it should also counts for fool

If you want to go the in-game definitions route that is

[valid mortar]

I'm going common sense route

[night shale]

Common sense says black holes aren’t planets

[spiral void]

astral cards have a different frame to planets, how is this even a discussion?

[merry cobalt]

It isnt a planet, isnt classified as a planet card by fool, vouchers, or Jokers, has a different frame.

You are ignoring common sense to make it work

*the different frame is based off of planets admittedly, but so is soul, and soul isn't a tarot so.. :/

[worn forge]

Ok but if it doesn't work with fool why should it work with constellation

They both specify planet cards in their description

[weak seal]

If black hole functions as a planet card, then space joker does too

balatro is a complex game that needs to stay consistent to stay understandable. Adding random edge cases can rapidly turn the game into gibberish.