#new chicot concept

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humble comet
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disables boss blinds AND makes them do good effects, see text below:

plucky copper
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I think people have suggested this before

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“Instead of bosses giving negative effects, it gives the reverse” yes?

humble comet
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yeah.

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u can ask me what the specific counters are

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and if you successfully complete the requirement too, chicot scales by X2 mult

native ember
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how would you convey the counters to the player?

plucky copper
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Just modifying all bosses texts straight

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Serpent:
always discard 3 cards on play or discard lololol

humble comet
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when the boss blind starts, it will also display what chicot does to counter the boss blind

plucky copper
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The x2 Mult is unnecessary

humble comet
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then chicot just gets worse

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cause he no longer eliminates the boss blind entirely, he just counters it

plucky copper
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Uhhh

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What

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I thought he counters as in

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The Hook would draw 2 additional cards after playing each hand

humble comet
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we could do that.

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or we can keep the 2X mult

plucky copper
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Because remember that all jokers, even legendary don’t have 2 abilities

humble comet
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uhhh.

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(oh yeah good point).......

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k then we do the counter thing

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ill come up with what chicot will do for each boss blind

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ill send it here.

plucky copper
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Yippie

humble comet
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the 4 boss blinds that debuff suits: remove debuff from cards, and suit that used to be debuffed now gives 1$ card played

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the hook: draw 2 additional cards per hand played

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the ox: playing your most played hands gives 5$

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the house: all cards are face up, and draw additonal cards at the beggining of the round equal to your hand size

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the wall: point scoring required is divided by 4,

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the wheel: gives wheel of fortune tarot card per hand played

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the arm: upgrades played hand

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the fish: cards drawn after each hand are temporarily lucky cards

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the psychic: playing 5 cards gives 5$

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the water: you dont lose your discards, and +2 hands and discards

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the manacle: +1 hand size

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the eye: repeat hand types give 5$

plucky copper
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The text on Chicot could be “all bosses now give positive effects”, while the bosses’ text themselves are altered once you meet those bosses. It could be a secret sub collection to find all reversed bosses.

humble comet
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YES

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the mouth: earn 5$ per unique hand played this round

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the plant: face cards are temporarily holographic

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the pillar: cards played this ante temporarily give an extra 20 chips and +4 mult

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the needle: dont lose hands, and +4 hands

plucky copper
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the wall: super small blind (x0.4 Blind size)

humble comet
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yeah

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divide by 4

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thats what i said.

plucky copper
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Oops

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Didn’t know you did it already lol

humble comet
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k lol

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the tooth: earn 2$ per card played

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the flint: base mult and chips doubled

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the mark: face cards are tmeporarily lucky

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amber acorn: add 3 random negative common jokers

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verdant leaf: all cards are polychrome, red seal, lucky cards

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violet vessel: shrinks down to base chip requirement, then divide chip requirement by 6

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crimson heart: one random joker will be retriggered per hand

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cerulean bell: gives more mult the harder it is to make played hand

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high card: +5 mult

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pair+ 10

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and so on

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just add 5 mult

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anyway that should be all of them.

plucky copper
humble comet
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uhh.

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nah.

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cause cerulean bell kind of makes it hard to play hands

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so the opposite is it gives more mult if the hand is harder to play

plucky copper
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Ah ok

frail elbow
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I had a similar idea. "Boss blinds are reversed". Meaning -1 hand size turns to +1, -1$ per card turns to +1$, debuffed suit turns to buffed suit (x1.5 mult) and so on

lost spindle
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or make it so Chicot also gain x1 mult per Boss Blind defeated

twin stag
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These are 2 legendary jokers in one

dusky gyro
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Question what would the wall be

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An extra small blind?

frail elbow
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Yeah

dusky gyro
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Fair

frail elbow
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Water would be +1 discard, needle would be +1 hands

twin stag
dusky gyro
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Now here's a question, does this work on the ante 8 boss blinds

frail elbow
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It might? Haven't thought too hard because people are against the idea in the past.

lost spindle
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since the nature of Finisher boss is very complicated
probably best just get disabled and nothing else

frail elbow
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Crimson Heart picks one joker to retrigger, purple vessel is 1/3 blind size

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Cerulean bell picks one card which if played grants x2 mult, Verdant is Temperance when you enter the blind, Amber Acorn... well amber acorn does nothing.

humble comet
dusky gyro
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ok

humble comet
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also, the wall is 4X the base

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so it would be 1/4

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not 1/3

native ember
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and violet vessel could be 1/3

austere pelican
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I think Chicot does that already if you have multiple

grand stone
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ive seen this suggestion a lot and ive always felt like it kinda has the matador problem where its just not clear enough how it works

humble comet
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if a boss blind is active, it will show what its ability is for that specific boss blind.

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side note: i forgot to include a serpent counter.

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after each hand or discard: draw 7 cards

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and if it shows the ability for each boss blind.

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u can go on a mini quest to find all of chicots counters

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unless u have read the text up top

stray raven
fierce blade
humble comet
humble comet
quaint star
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To me, this still has the same problem as current chicot and(to a greater extent) loyalty card: a scoring joker that doesn't score every blind is useless(yeah, you could skip everything but boss blinds, but thats the best way to speedrun to the game over screen, with or without this version of chicot)

marble swift
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It's also hella inconsistent and would be unclear what effects chicot would have before you enter

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Like why would psychic give $5 for playing 5 cards? That feels really unthematic and just turns Chicot into a worse Matador since it has lower potential

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(never thought I could say worse matador lol)

tawny monolith
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I guess Chicot is just doomed to be the worst Legendary, but this is a great concept don't get me wrong.

Unrelated, but i added Soul as a reccomended item for a fighting game just for fun that gives 1 of the 5 legendary jokers and, with the adaptations i made to fit into said game, Chicot might be the most overpowered one since it makes you immune to every single statues effect.

quaint star
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I think if Chicot were a handsize scaler instead of a boss blind deleter, it would be more in line with other legendaries(probably still the worst legendary in my opinion, but with lots of power and potential the current one doesn't have)

humble comet
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fine.....

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new chicot concept....

stray raven
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If you make 100 chicot posts there's a chance of one of them being perfect

plucky copper
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We take the average of all and find the perfect chicot