Art of the Deal - The People's card collection (30 Jokers) (Submissions CLOSED)

[sacred turtle]

Maybe something with Kings

[abstract tiger]

JAROKTHERUR

[sacred turtle]

This is how to read it

[sacred turtle]

Somehow it makes sense...

[lethal acorn]

why?

[sacred turtle]

Because I like make it like that...

[lethal acorn]

seems borderline unreadable buti guess thats me

[sacred turtle]

What do you think about this ability?

After discarding 11 Kings, the next King you play will be added Polychrome edition and red seal

[lethal acorn]

that'd be a rare im guessing?

[sacred turtle]

Yep

[lethal acorn]

red seal might be a bit much

i see the polychrome though

reliable poly is good

and the condition seems reasonable

[sacred turtle]

Discarding 11 Kings is quite hard...

[lethal acorn]

theres only a couple ways to get a red seal poly king

getting lucky with packs (hard)

building a poly red out of aura and deja vu (not even guaranteed to be poly)

or getting lucky with level 2 card voucher (also hard)

so i think skipping that with that condition is tilting towards too good

and a red poly king is absurdly powerful so

[sacred turtle]

Hummm

I'm also thinking about another ablity

Played Kings have 1 in 11 chance to be polychrome (one successful King per hand)

[lethal acorn]

discarding kings seems cooler

honestly

[sacred turtle]

So we'll keep this ability

[lethal acorn]

oh i thought the slots were full

[sacred turtle]

Maybe for the next update

[lethal acorn]

ah

[sacred turtle]

Just add a little ee

[lethal acorn]

might wanna add the white border

[sacred turtle]

For the sword?

[lethal acorn]

the white border between the gray outline of the card and the art

[sacred turtle]

Humm, ok

[sacred turtle]

Added the white border

[bronze elbow]

stray pixel detected but great art

[vast hornet]

You should add a ™ to the JOKER
JOKER™

[mental glade]

the void ™️

[lethal acorn]

pulled out the magnifying glass for that one huh

[mental glade]

yeah

i got bad eyes

[lethal acorn]

so true

[mental glade]

for someone named iris thats not a good look

[vast hornet]

two meanings to "not a good look"

[mental glade]

correct

[sacred turtle]

Actually, it's black rose

Just draw it for fun

[bronze elbow]

it hurts noooooooooooo

[thin spire]

The layers to this joke makes it so funny

[bright orchid]

Wanst this essentially the idea we threw away for my Hole in One card?

[soft river]

Still taking ideas & art or is the mod done for now?

[odd frost]

its not done per say but im currently just working on getting caught up and also work on some personal ideas

there is however one slot open for submitting a deck idea

so if ya wanna you can do that

[serene pelican]

Can we have a torn seal that functions like the misprint joker

[soft river]

Cryptid has the glitched edition which does essentially that.

[serene pelican]

Hm.

Okay, alternatively

torn seals of the base game's ones, BUT
Also a joker that turns the torn seal to a normal one when the card is scored

[soft river]

I had a joker in mind, Hand of Fate, which has multiple 1 in 4 chances to do things both good and bad.

Conceptualizing the art but it'll probably be a hand pulling strings, or a handshake.

[serene pelican]

Hand with a yin/yang on it

[soft river]

Hmmm... I think yin/yang is more about balance, while this is basically accepting a deal.

1 in 16 chance to add a random enhancement/seal/edition to a card/joker
1 in 16 chance to remove a random enhancement/seal/edition from a card/joker
1 in 16 chance to create a random joker
1 in 16 chance to destroy a random joker
1 in 16 chance for 0.5x/0.9x blind requirement
1 in 16 chance for 1.1x/2x blind requirement.

and many others, but if one of these effects do trigger, its opposite cannot, along with other guidelines

[odd frost]

cool

[serene pelican]

black/white hands handshake, both of them attached by strings

[soft river]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[fading crow]

Got an idea for a space themed joker but if it's good enough:

• Every 9 unique poker hands played create a Black Hole (Currently 0/9)

[lethal acorn]

for a rare¿

[fading crow]

Probably

But it sounds more like a Uncommon

In terms of power

[bronze elbow]

9 is a lot

[soft river]

Does that mean you can swithc back and fourth between 2 different hands or do you have to play 9 seperate hands?

[lethal acorn]

a black hole is a lot

even if it takes an ante and something else to get

[fading crow]

To activate this you need to play 9 different poker hands

It can be activated multiple times

No limit

[lethal acorn]

yeah so

[fading crow]

A black hole is just 1 lvl evenly spread

[lethal acorn]

a lot of black holes which is in fact a really good card

[fading crow]

You usually tend to build a certain hand type

[lethal acorn]

really feels like a rare

[lethal acorn]

yeah but this just makes your life easier in every way

boosts ALL your hands, forever

[fading crow]

By a little

[lethal acorn]

AND you can do it several times

[fading crow]

Takes a lot of time

And effort

[lethal acorn]

2 level ups is enough to double mult and get a LOT of chips

i mean, thinking about it like playing 9 hands to get 10 or so planet cards

thas a lot

[fading crow]

9 different planet cards ≠ 9 copies of the same planet card

At all

Power-wise

[lethal acorn]

you're right that it falls off when you're trying to go for something specific but in any other scenario it makes your life incredibly easier

a black hole is already an absurdly good find in a spectral pack or planet pack

and gives you so much leeway

[fading crow]

@odd frost here's a well organized custom stuff I've made in form of concept pages: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V5_fg_MizVfT9mFwS0KaI91xgYsDTm_cbW8LEWMX4uo/edit?usp=drivesdk

So you could pick n choose anything to your liking more easily

[odd frost]

cool

[vast hornet]

these are all cool

[thick geyser]

How did you make the display images?

[bronze elbow]

Ballot: Retrigger last scored card of hand 4 times

[vast hornet]

lol

but this would imply the ballot wasn't voted on

so really it should do barely anything

[bronze elbow]

pre-voted

[bronze elbow]

Oh... its fives: Doubles the second numeral in all listed probabilities
(ex: 1 in 3 -> 1 in 6)

[vast hornet]

so obviously you'd want to use this for things like glass cards

uh... what other situations are there where you want something less likely

[manic forge]

cavendish

[bronze elbow]

cavendish

[late pine]

the wheel

vanilla doesnt have a lot of bad chance based effects but a lot of mods do

[sacred turtle]

Well then I think we should have probability jokers with not to instead of to

[vast hornet]

That's a good idea

[sacred turtle]

Stentorian Joker (rare) Gain 10 muit for each hand played with total value of all scored cards' ranks greater than or equal 50 (J Q K counted as 10)

The art is just normal jimbo but larger side

Like wee joker

But opposite

[thin spire]

Hiya all, are we fully done with suggestions for now or are we still looking for a deck

[sacred turtle]

Yep, but I think there no problems with giving joker ideas...

[thin spire]

Alr

I had an idea for a deck

[soft river]

@odd frost if you have space for one more joker, how does this look?

Famous Joker / Social Media | (Common/Uncommon depending on how you evaluate it)

• Gives $1 at the end of the round.
• If first hand of the round scores over double the blind requirement, permanently gains $1-$5.
• Destroyed if first hand of the round fails to score the normal blind requirement (not double) 3 times.

I'm not artist but I tried my best to frankenstein a card that looks good enough.

[odd frost]

it looks really good but yeah joker submissions are closed

[lethal acorn]

aw hell na why jimbo hitting da stanky leg

[soft river]

I just googled "male dance" and used the first pic I found as a template.

[odd frost]

hey @serene pelican did we ever agree on an ability for gamblecore?

if not, any ideas?

[serene pelican]

Uuuh

1 in 5 to enhance a played card

[odd frost]

yeah ok i dig it

simple but effective

[serene pelican]

But ALSO remove enhancement

Nah nvm just the original is good

[serene pelican]

Say it with me now

LETS GO GAMBLING!

🎰

I CAN'T STOP WINNING!!!

[thin spire]

I have 2 very stupid deck ideas

1. Ripped deck (image would be a deck ripped vertically in half) it only has odd cards and jacks

2. Rock deck (image is a deck shaped rock) entire deck is just stone cards

[lethal acorn]

#1327494105168875592 message

[naive shell]

Sounds a bit weak for a rare imo

[odd frost]

yeah its actually uncommon

thats mb

the thing i copy paste to add a new joker is set to be a rare joker

didnt change it until after

[clear dust]

What if it was 26 random cards removed from the deck

[thin spire]

Aint that just the shuffled one or whtvr but better

Actually

That can have dupes

[clear dust]

Plus erratic is still the full 52

[odd frost]

all the jokers as negatives bc i felt like it

cooking

[bronze elbow]

negitive gamblecore goes hard as hell

[sacred turtle]

I like to see blank as negative tho it will never happen ig...

[odd frost]

hm?

it is blank rn

[bronze elbow]

whats the non-negative antimatter joker

[odd frost]

as a note it uses all the colors that antimatter voucher does i believe

outside of gradients

[bronze elbow]

yum

[sacred turtle]

What will we do after deck submission closed?

Blinds or vouchers?

[fast ember]

anything specific you want for a deck?

or can I do it on anything

[bronze elbow]

I hope more jokers because there are a TON that people have submitted

[fading crow]

Medusa finally be hissing?

👀

[odd frost]

yeah ok ill do that

hey @mental glade did we ever agree on an ability for your american football joker?

i looked through messages and only saw something involving queens and full house, with no ability tied to that

[mental glade]

+0.1 xmult every hand played with only 1 face card

the other one wqs budget canio

+0.25 xmult for every pair of face cards destroyed

pick the balanced one

[odd frost]

i like #1 better

goes hard on photochad builds

and other high card shenanigains

[sacred turtle]

Vertigo (Uncommon) 6 and 9 consider the same rank. Playing a 6 or 9 gives 8 muits instead of chips

It's an old idea I already gave here

[vast hornet]

nice

looks at the camera

[serene pelican]

🦗

[untold tinsel]

imagine a joker that functioned differently based on it's edition

[odd frost]

american joker works @mental glade

ignore the missing ) i already added that

working on your joker, this the ability you want?

[bright orchid]

That's the general idea I wanted. Not sure if it would be better to be chips or +multiple or Xmult

I guess it depends on how rare it is

[odd frost]

lemme check how many rares there are

there are 8 rare jokers out of thirty total

only six commons

the rest are all uncommon

[late pine]

this is really overpowered from the sounds of it

like this is all the power of obelisk without any of the risk

[odd frost]

i mean

you miss out on a lot of hand types by doing it

no pairs or Xoaks, full house, most straights

youre left with pluto, flush, a j-10-9-8-7 straight, and its flush varient

or splash

[late pine]

you dont really miss out on any hand types because it doesnt lose anything if you play them

[odd frost]

oh right it can scale more than once per round

ok 0.1x it is

[late pine]

that sounds better

[odd frost]

tbh i was comparing it to like dna + holo

which scales once per round with that specific strat

[late pine]

yeah but thats also two whole jokers lol

[odd frost]

yeah

idk man

[odd frost]

yeah if its cool im probably gonna make it common and scale +chips

probably like +20 chips per round beaten in one hand

for something that can only scale once per round that feels pretty good

[late pine]

also does this factor in unscored cards? if not it should probably mention "1 scoring face card"

[odd frost]

good point

[bright orchid]

I'm down for that. As something harder to trigger, maybe 20 or 25 chips on trigger

[odd frost]

ye

[bright orchid]

👍

[odd frost]

trying to compare it to blue joker mainly

i.e. how fast does it become better than blue

[late pine]

tbf blue joker is kinda bad lol

[odd frost]

at this point about four-ish rounds

eh i like blue early on

theres better chips guys but he's pretty reliable early on

[late pine]

common chip jokers are weird because you have kinda bad stuff like blue joker and then really good stuff like runner

i think square joker is a good baseline

in which i think 20-25 per round is good

[odd frost]

can scale on average four times, so +16 chips per round on a pretty easy condition

[late pine]

honestly i think 30 is pretty fair

[odd frost]

mhm

i was considering 30 actually

[odd frost]

aaalright

aw shit

single bug found

lemme get a vid before i fix it bc its funny

lol

me when i get as good as showman in one turn

yeah this is pretty funny

luckily i know exactly what this is so i can fix it once im done

[late pine]

weakest wee joker run be like

[odd frost]

lol

[bright orchid]

was it also adding that value to each card played??\

[odd frost]

nope

it was triggering its upgrade everytime a card was checked

to add value to cards id have had to do something like 'other_card:permabonus = 30'

[bright orchid]

ohhhhh okay

yeah thats pretty funny

[odd frost]

it ended up with like +6000 chips

actually was best with high card bc that left the most amount of cards in your hand at end of round

so it could scale faster

[bright orchid]

honestly thats a pretty funny effect on its own when scaled down

especially with the name hole in 1

i could alsmost see it being left as is and scaled down to like 1 chip for the effect

[odd frost]

yeah i was thinking similar

feels a smidge too complicated to me though

[bright orchid]

yeah thats fair

even that low, it still feels very goot too

[odd frost]

@thick geyser finally got around to fixing comedy gold

also bumped it up to rare

cus that's a real good econ source expecially with egg/giftcard

[thick geyser]

Oh sweet

may I see it?
or is it not ready to be shown yet

[odd frost]

testing rn

[thick geyser]

dear god

amazing

[odd frost]

cant make this shit up

first shop no rerolls

[thick geyser]

oh my goodness

[odd frost]

yeah in this absurd hypothetical situation it scales pretty fast

[thick geyser]

I guess comedy gold is 24 carat

[odd frost]

yep

[thick geyser]

thank you so much
it's beautiful

[odd frost]

lol, lmao

oh hey look

[thick geyser]

if you get bull or bootstraps you're just gonna win

[odd frost]

yeah

tbh though ive just been using debug to win blinds lol

consider the following

ok i lied now consider the following

[odd frost]

and as a bonus

thanks dark matter

hot damn it just gives a number

[thick geyser]

We've reached cryptid numbers

[odd frost]

god i love dark matter

goofy shit

[thick geyser]

Rich get Richer 2
Chips and Mult can't exceed the Money amount
Earn no Interest
But you get Comedy Gold

[odd frost]

god i love just doing stupid shit like this

[thick geyser]

gee willikers

[odd frost]

by the looks of it cash out increases by 4 thousand ish every round

[thick geyser]

HOW MUCH

[odd frost]

:3

two rounds difference

[odd frost]

alright im closin this shit but before i do

[thick geyser]

yeah I'm pretty sure if you played this for too long, you'd just crash

[odd frost]

actually ill only crash if i add more things

more money is just fine

[thick geyser]

okay

*you'd just crash the economy

[odd frost]

yep :]

thanks

ok i closed the game

as a final aside the game was def a little laggy doing certain things

like, weirdly enough, moving jokers

ok.......
time for i think just one last thing before releasing the update

descriptions

[odd frost]

hey whats a line in chowder related to comedy gold?

[thick geyser]

"What's the deal with walking? It's like people have somewhere to be!"

[bright orchid]

"Thats what we call a sight gag"

[odd frost]

allllright i think i got them all

[mental glade]

yippeeee

[thick geyser]

That's also good

[odd frost]

@fading crow i tried putting a hiss in for medusa but unfortuately it just doesnt sound very good

[fading crow]

I think the issue is that it's procing one by one

Midas mask just turns every card simultaneously

[fading crow]

And cuz of that repeating sfx just sounds off

[odd frost]

well to me it doesnt have that sharp 'hit' that say the mult or chips sound has

makes it feel like nothings happening, comparitively, because you cant immediately hear the hiss

[fading crow]

Try this one

Its fast and short

Should feel sharp i think

If still meh, just leave it as default

Not a big deal

[odd frost]

yeah it works good

DING DA DING DA DING DA DING NEW UPDATE
WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO
https://github.com/radbanker/Art-of-the-Deal.The-peoples-card-collection

i dont think there are any bugs, but if there are please tell me!

Art of the Deal - The People's card collection (30 Jokers) (Submissions open for 1 decks)

go have fun yall!

[vast hornet]

don't wanna be an American Joker

[soft river]

Epic.

[clear dust]

e-Deck
Start with no cards, a Standard Tag, and a Magic Trick voucher (also maybe extra money)
So you're like purchasing the cards to build up your deck

[vast hornet]

https://youtu.be/5Szv6tzji9w?si=own7gbJysGIdixej
What about something a little more like this?

The first one

[lethal acorn]

2 card hand to beat blind 1?

[clear dust]

I wasn't exactly sure but I think the packs usually give at least one enhanced card right?

Ur right tho it should probably be like 5 or smthn

[lethal acorn]

could just be something simpler

like 6s and above removed or something

[odd frost]

ehh i like the one deep dawn showed me more

[late pine]

just now finding that canny joker just says "fuck you" if you discard a debuffed face card LMAO

[sacred turtle]

Change the ability:

Sharpshooter (rare)
Gain $1 for each consecutive blinds beaten in one hand or two hands if boss blinds
(Currently: $1)

[manic forge]

oh that actually sounds like a fun one

[fading crow]

@odd frost Medusa might use a nerf to +3 Mult

[odd frost]

whats it looking like about now?

too strong?

[odd frost]

lol

i have that set up for a lot of debuff stuff actually

[fading crow]

On white stake for sure. I'm currently testing a run on Gold Stake

Nvm its all good

I just forgot how easy White stake is LOL

[odd frost]

yknow
i wish i could play with just purple stake

i like the scaling more than the rest of the stuff tbh

[sacred turtle]

How about starting with 4 Standard Tags? 8 cards. It's just fit the original handsize

[clear dust]

Ahh yeah that's a perfect amount actually

The insidious Ante 1 Pillar ready to debuff my full hand:

[lethal acorn]

ppl will just reset u ntil they get a hand they like

if a player can optimize the fun out of a game they will

[thick geyser]

I mean it didn't stop erratic deck

[lethal acorn]

erratic deck has a bigger sample size

52 default cards vs 8 cards that can be anything ever

AND you have to spend however long per run getting them

[odd frost]

what if it was start with four cards of the same rank, each with random suit

or just one of each suit

[bronze elbow]

I dont think you saw but you could chance Happy new year to 新年快乐! or Xīn Nián Kuài Lè!

[clear dust]

that might be more balanced but it also kind of takes away from the "diy" aspect of the deck

also having 4 of a kind every round kind of breaks ante 1 lol

but then again so does a holographic card i guess :P

[odd frost]

i actually have the Chinese version in too, when it triggers in game itll put a message with that version on it, the reason its in english in the description is to tie the two together for those who dont know the Chinese counterpart

[bronze elbow]

ohhhhh ok

i haved gotten around to playing the new version

[odd frost]

all good

[bronze elbow]

but im about to play it now

[odd frost]

ye

shit some of these should be uncommons thinking about it

reflection for one and if it aint currently so should red envelope

ill fix it in the morning hopefully

[lethal acorn]

what was reflection again

[bronze elbow]

also golf card is easly uncommon

[thin spire]

Retrigger glass

[mental glade]

it would surely have to be a mega standard

but also

2 cards for round 1

you can't clear that

[odd frost]

onlt if you got like two mult cards of the same rank

i.e. a rare occurrence

[clear dust]

Ya the standard tag gives a mega pack. 1 card would be absurd lol

Even more absurd than just 2 cards

[odd frost]

fyi hotfix today rarities for reflection and red envelope are uncommon now

both used to be rare but that was a mistake

[fading crow]

@odd frost Could you explain what this part of the code does?

(Medusa's code)

also why when cards transform they become blank for a second?

[odd frost]

im pretty sure those are vestigial, they were in attempt to make medusa not immediately remove the suit/rank of the card before stone even got applied

i don't know how to fix that unfortunately

[fading crow]

understood

I'm just learning balo coding

[odd frost]

ye

[fading crow]

So you tried to remove that thing when they become blank for a brief moment?

just clarifying

[odd frost]

no i added that and a bit more code that i did end up erasing to try to fix that

the only part that matters for making the cards stone is set_ability(yada yada)

[fading crow]

thanks!

[odd frost]

then theres set_seal and set_edition for something you can probably guess

[fading crow]

is it m_[enhancement] for all enhancements?

like m_gold

m_stone

[odd frost]

yep

[odd frost]

if you want another thing for this stuff check out boosting pack's code

[fading crow]

well turns out they are not rudimental lol

card doesnt function without these lines

hmmmmmmmmmmm

nvm

my brain's is getting fried trying to understand all this ngl

[odd frost]

damn

tbh i dont particularly remember what i was doing coding it

[odd frost]

hey if anyones posted a deck here already can you post it again so i dont have to go searching

[fading crow]

here

Btw, it seems like custom sfx dont work atm @odd frost

[odd frost]

i see

will look into it later

[fast ember]

Import - Deck

• Start with Overstock+
• +1 Booster Pack Slot

Should there be a downside?

[lethal acorn]

ideally

yeah

20$ value for free and double reroll value

[odd frost]

tarrifs

is called the import deck no?

whats a good stand in for tarrifs

[lethal acorn]

expensiver rerolls

though i feel like anytime anyone ever implements more booster pack slots its always overtuned

[odd frost]

eh at least its only +1

and personally, i want more booster slots, so i want this deck in tbh

[lethal acorn]

yeah but even only +1 tends to be insane

easier everything

[odd frost]

@fading crow for your consideration

[lethal acorn]

seems anti-endless

[odd frost]

i mean

only if youre buying a lot of jokers post ante 8

[lethal acorn]

by the time you get enough money to start looking for cool rare and uncommons they're expensive enough to break interest on their own

[odd frost]

generally you dont actually buy a lot

[lethal acorn]

yeah but you're also finding less commons

[odd frost]

on the other hand youre also getting a lot more rares and uncommons

[lethal acorn]

so increase price for UC and rares, on top of the price rampup

you get very very little afordable jokers

[odd frost]

what if every other boss blind

[lethal acorn]

couldbe nicer yeah

[odd frost]

also

[lethal acorn]

or a flat increase in reroll price

[odd frost]

secretly buffs temperence

[lethal acorn]

since youre hunting for rares and UC

something like +2$ to reroll price

[odd frost]

i almost think thats worse

[lethal acorn]

like how telescope has -1 consumable

eh yeah,

still feels like price rampup gets out of hand quick

[odd frost]

+2 dollars spent per reroll

[lethal acorn]

true

[odd frost]

which is your main source of costs in endless

[lethal acorn]

reroll rampup

or smth

rerolls increase in price 2$ per instead of 1$ per

first reroll is unchanged and because of less commons you end up rerolling less anyways

[odd frost]

fair enough ig

[odd frost]

i still personally like this tho

[lethal acorn]

i guess im against it bc UC and rares are already inherently more expensive

so early game before econ its hard to buy good jokers,

then midgame when you have your econ set up jokers are dramatically more expensive

and late game every purchase is like losing a limb

[odd frost]

its only $4 at ante 8

5 if you took petro and hiero

[lethal acorn]

oh i was still on the mental of every ante

thats on me

ithink everyother woudl workyeah

[odd frost]

mhm

[odd frost]

fun fact, rare jokers normally have a 5% chance of spawning

much lower than i thought it was

anyways top shelf takes that up to 20%

[bronze elbow]

Antimatter deck: +1 hand size, negative cards a 5X more common, start with an Ectoplasm

also the odd deck which scott has the art for

[odd frost]

apparently this is what happens if you buy more than one overstock+

(done by debugging them in)

[odd frost]

feels... too good

needs a debuff to go with it

[bronze elbow]

x5 is a 10% chance which isnt that much

[odd frost]

kinda is though, for what negatives are

also you gave it two other bonuses

[bronze elbow]

maybe 3x

[sacred turtle]

You can limit the joker slot to balance I think

[bronze elbow]

or maybe no +1 hand size so the ectoplasm also acts as a debuff

[bronze elbow]

nah that kinda defeats the point of the deck

[fading crow]

I mean we could test it as is and then consider lowering or changing penalty entirely

What do you think?

[peak plank]

cryptid has this

[sacred turtle]

Ok

[bronze elbow]

Nontrivial topology: I don't know what to do with this one but i was thinking it being about straights being able to wrap around (eg: Q K A 2 3)

[lethal acorn]

all balatro artists will eventually come to the conclusion of "straights can go king to ace to 2)

[steel wadi]

Four fingers, Shortcut, and then this is the only logical conclusion

Q A 3 5 straight

[thin spire]

A375 straight with odd todd

[odd frost]

have to go before i can tidy it up bu here's basically finished premium deck

[fading crow]

Yooo

Is github updated?

[odd frost]

no

will when i get all 6 in

[lethal acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[serene pelican]

Can we have a joker called Brombus Pay
You can sell it, and the next shop item you buy is free

[steel wadi]

Goes extinct when destroyed in any way

[serene pelican]

Pluh

[steel wadi]

I.e. doesn’t appear again, ever, that run

[serene pelican]

Lemme cook

idk

[untold tinsel]

BROMBUS

[odd frost]

cool concept

jokers still closed

i will however recommend https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1335318659169517659

[odd frost]

yep it works

premium deck works 100% sure

on the bright side

[bronze elbow]

Simple pallet

[fading crow]

Built-in cashback

[odd frost]

saw a seeded run (had negative trib ante 1) on the subreddit and i wanted to take a stab at it
funi invis joker moment

[fading crow]

Holy shit

Negative trib?

[odd frost]

yep

[fading crow]

Naturally???

[odd frost]

in first tag

[fading crow]

I didn't know it's possible lol

[odd frost]

AFS5ZXVY
go nuts

oh and

erratic deck

9 kings and 8 queens

[fading crow]

Erotic

Deck

My beloved

[odd frost]

blueprint also ante 2 pretty early on

though ante 9 (7 if you take hieroglyph) is plant so be advised

[fading crow]

Custom crafted seed

100%

[odd frost]

oh yeah
hey if anyone gets blank joker, when it turns into dark matter you're free to upgrade it to negative edition

there's currently a bug where it doesnt despite it being intended

lol, lmao

(mime for gold cards)

[serene pelican]

Erotic deck
All cards are uh

uhhh

idk

[odd frost]

freaky

[serene pelican]

oh right speaking of freaky

i did a funny

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153898648497827941/1334424549181227090/Untitled82_20250130022035.png?ex=67a50cf4&is=67a3bb74&hm=5d5041da0ab75638fb903dfa051f2069e0c1659855c3a8cd51dcc751130ec472&

im going to hell

[odd frost]

lol

not implementing it but funny

[serene pelican]

ofc not

[fading crow]

All cards are 6s and 9s of hearts

[odd frost]

start with lusty joker and bloodstone

[fading crow]

Freaky deck

My final suggestion /j

[odd frost]

not gonna do it im afraid

besides one deck per person

wondering if i should make a submission form to make collecting submissions easier

in the future that is

[fading crow]

Google forms?

[odd frost]

tea

yea

[serene pelican]

Jooj dec--

[viscid rose]

lol i should probably adapt this, keeping track is getting tough with how many i'm getting a day

[odd frost]

i feel that

[odd frost]

oh yeah i dont have antimatter voucher here, for the record

[naive shell]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1c81t79/had_a_dream_that_they_added_a_freaky_deck_to_the/

[odd frost]

lol

[odd frost]

actually wild set up

blank probably shouldnt be allowed to spawn if theres a dark matter

(note, that's only how i got the third one, the second was from invis)

[vast hornet]

Why does dark matter do again

[odd frost]

its always* negative

(supposed to be, currently bugged)

[vast hornet]

Interesting

And it's not compatible with brainstorm/blueprint?

[odd frost]

but its also an investment, low chance of spawing from blank card

correct

because stuff like it (juggler, drunkard, etc) arent either

[vast hornet]

I see

[lethal acorn]

invis spawns dark matter with negative?

[odd frost]

is supposed to

[lethal acorn]

i guess

[odd frost]

i know it strips negative but dark matter is supposed to always be negative

[lethal acorn]

i mean that just seems like an easter egg

[white ferry]

if i submit an idea for a challenge deck should i provide art

[odd frost]

challenge deck or normal deck

(also yes art please)

[white ferry]

alr

[odd frost]

though challenges dont have deck art

they all just use the normal backing

and uh

[odd frost]

im not doing challenge decks

[white ferry]

oh ok, thanks

[white ferry]

glass deck - all starting playing cards (or all playing cards) are glass
did a quick mockup using the glass enhancement

[sacred turtle]

Wait? Invis supposes to spawn blank instead of dark matter...

[odd frost]

right...

forgot abt that

[sacred turtle]

We already have one in cryptid mod

[odd frost]

though in this case this was from a copied blank joker

not a dark matter

[sacred turtle]

Yeah

But you tested it with dark matter itself?

[odd frost]

no but i didnt code that change in

[white ferry]

ah, oops

[odd frost]

also as a standalone mod i believe

[sacred turtle]

Humm. So I think you should code it and remember that ecto and all other sources that apply negative cannot add negative onto blank...

[odd frost]

no adding negative to blank is just fine

its annoying but realistically fine

[sacred turtle]

Yeah cause dark matter is technologically blank but negative

[odd frost]

i mean

i made it so that its always negative

and also the +1 joker slot it has in its stats

[sacred turtle]

Yep.

[odd frost]

i think im slightly confused

[sacred turtle]

I mean blank should be just default edition

[odd frost]

why are you saying that blank shouldnt be able to be made negative?

[odd frost]

nah i think its fine that it can be other editions

[sacred turtle]

The original idea of mine is that when blank hits negative, it becomes dark matter

[odd frost]

oh

i thought it was a chance to become dark matter

(i remember you saying 1 in 100 chance or something like that)

[sacred turtle]

Technologically it is cause it does that when hit negative

[sacred turtle]

1 in 100 to be added negative I said

[odd frost]

mmm

well it was easier to program it as 'chance to go straight to dark matter' instead of 'become negative and if negative turn to dark matter'

[sacred turtle]

You can keep it like that, I dont mind. But I would like if dark matter could spawn blank when copied and blank could be always default edition

[odd frost]

mhm

i could do that

[sacred turtle]

If that so, good

[odd frost]

ye

in the meantime

funny run

(none of those were obtained from copying a dark matter)

[bronze elbow]

Mr rad every major update could every person who has a joker in the mod get one extra suggestion for either a joker or a deck, so people can always suggest new jokers if their art/joker actions are good

[odd frost]

the deck update is the last one im planning on for a while, and once im done with another project i really want to do im going to reopen submissions and probably reset the limit so people can make new stuff

in the mean time i suggest suggesting jokers here https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1335318659169517659

[bronze elbow]

lucky 7: lucky 7's gives 2X Mult when held in hand

[odd frost]

im looking into making the changes, and the more i think about it the less im sure ill be able to do the 'dark matter copied into blank' idea

ill do it if i can but it feels like there wont be a simple solution to it that isnt very patch heavy and also takes into account modded joker copying options (i.e. whatever i do wont work with mods that add ways to copy jokers)

ill be able to do the blank always no edition thing though, i already do that with how dark matter works

[odd frost]

i think i got blank to always be no edition

no way for me to really tell though

because id have to find it in the shop

where its already rare

and then in the hypothetical where it actually rolls an edition

ill just say it is and if anyone gets it in like foil or something theyre legally allowed to yell at me

[sacred turtle]

Tho I dont know about coding, I know that it would quite easy if there just ankh and invis. But to do it for every joker coping things, that wouldnt easy

[odd frost]

yeah

i dont like making solutions that dont apply to stuff that other people add

when relevant ofc

but in this case its very relevant

as a final thing tonight...
i think mimic joker is fixed

maybe

who the fuck knows

as cool of a joker concept it is holy hell has it been a thorn in my side

[bronze elbow]

Now we know why rad will never do a retrigger joker again

[thin spire]

Just wondering.... is reflection done yet /silly

[odd frost]

yes? its been in for a bit now

[thin spire]

Damn bro doesnt have any more retrigger jokers left

[odd frost]

retrigger cards is actually really easy

its copying jokers which is hard

[thin spire]

Okay yeah thats fair

Sounds hard

[odd frost]

alrighttttt
more decks

me scrolling through all the previous messages to find decks to add

found one

do you mind if i spruce it up a little though?

the main thing im worried about is the hole is gonna look kinda bad on a deck skin

(expecially bc the normal cards wont inherit it, so when flipped over the cards will just appear normal

if you can think of an ability for this ill add it
(or, if i missed yall coming up with it, just repeat what you said then)

i fuck with this

youre in

aaaaand thats the four i need!

Art of the Deal - The People's card collection (30 Jokers) (Submissions CLOSED)

[clear dust]

I can take care of it if you want. Also dw, that's an ink spill not a hole (i can remove it though)

[odd frost]

ooooooh

then all good, but maybe spruce it up a lil?

also is it already balatro black or lighter?

[clear dust]

I put it together really fast bc I was busy so I just picked something that was close to balatro black

[odd frost]

s'all good

[clear dust]

When I get a chance I'll make a proper version 👍

[odd frost]

maybe make it like a bit purple or something

[clear dust]

But today I am also busy LOL

[odd frost]

cus ink

yeah all good

[clear dust]

Oh true

[odd frost]

alright current roster -document

[viscid rose]

lord knows how many nights i spent figuring out how to copy every single joker

[odd frost]

god

random choosing sucked too for like five different reasons

[viscid rose]

i didn't even fully get it right lmfao i couldn't figure out how to copy retrigger jokers along with other ones so it just retriggers.. retrigger jokers

[odd frost]

real

[viscid rose]

it copies abilities normally like blueprint would but for things like hanging chad it just makes it activate twice

[odd frost]

mhm

[viscid rose]

i love lua cause it's easy enough that i can pretend i'm a good programmer

[odd frost]

so true

[lethal acorn]

pants deck

[odd frost]

/srs or /j?

[lethal acorn]

slash es

idk it kinda looks like pants ig

[odd frost]

fair nuff

[lethal acorn]

funny

[thick geyser]

There I am Gary there I am

[bronze elbow]

Canny joker is a bitch FUCK YOOOOOU CANNY JOKER

[odd frost]

what happened?

debuffed cards?

[bronze elbow]

yep

Neat easter egg

[odd frost]

hehe :3c

[bronze elbow]

btw please make hole in one uncommon it is WAAAAY to op as a common card

[odd frost]

mhmmmm

how much did it scale?

[bronze elbow]

keep in mind i WAS playing plasma which makes it the best card in the game but it got to 700ish

[odd frost]

pre or post endless?

bc i suspect that you could do the same with runner if post endless

[bronze elbow]

pre

[odd frost]

(youd only have to play two straights, not all that hard with some deck thinning)

mhm

[bronze elbow]

round ante 8

i think

if you get it early it is amazing

[odd frost]

*per round

same with runner

i honestly thing maybe a small nerf might be the play

instead of making it uncommon

[bronze elbow]

+40 instead?

[odd frost]

wait is it +50 chips?

i thought it was +30

[bronze elbow]

I thought it was 50

[odd frost]

its +30

[bronze elbow]

oooh

[odd frost]

compared to runner's +15

(which can be triggered multiple times a round)

[bronze elbow]

well maybe keep it as it is, but if you get it early it is a TREAT

[odd frost]

under optimal conditions runner actually scales better

it was actually originally gonna be +20

[bronze elbow]

its hard to get 3 straights in one round with out winning

[odd frost]

true

uuuuuugggghhh dammit

hole in one is 10 bucks

dammit

[bronze elbow]

yeah I saw that

[odd frost]

its 5 now

that stemmed from the fact that i copied blank joker to get all the jokers ready to be made

and they all inherited its rarity and cost

which is 10 and rare

[bronze elbow]

now its cheaper you HAVE TO NERF IT

[late pine]

30 is fine for a highly conditional scaler i think

[odd frost]

also like

if you aint a high card build you just
cant
use dna

source: me a few hours ago

[late pine]

hole in one can only start scaling if youre already winning

which means it's never gonna save a run

[odd frost]

it wont ever save it immediately

[late pine]

chip scalers being crazy on plasma is just how plasma deck is

[odd frost]

ye

my first plasma run involved two stuntmen

beautiful stuff

[late pine]

i got a super balatrio bros on a semi recent run it was silly lol

[elfin basin]

Did the download for this finally come out?

[odd frost]

github link at the top post

[elfin basin]

I'm blind apparently, haha, thank you

[odd frost]

s'all good

[bronze elbow]

I hate when gamblecore stones me 😭

[odd frost]

lol

thats gambling for ya

[bronze elbow]

I love antimatter joker because it allows you to use ectoplasm with now downside and still have +1 hand size and +2 jokers

[bronze elbow]

can we make it so if you get antimatter joker you cant get blank joker without showman

[odd frost]

probably

i wanted to look into that after a very funny seeded run

[bronze elbow]

i was using the all rare and spectral seed and got 3 antimatters by ante 9

[odd frost]

well

thats the all rare and spectral seed

[bronze elbow]

fair

[bronze elbow]

Im up to 7 dark matters rn

the 8th never upgraded 😭 got to round 76

[bronze elbow]

fun setup I got

@odd frost Could I change the effect of red envelope to 15$ at the end of boss blind +1$ for each joker owned because the current effect is too simple and quite boring.

[odd frost]

tbh i liked the simplicity of the old idea (semi direct upgrade to golden joker) but i also like this idea, ill put it in when i get home

dark matter synergy lmao

[odd frost]

also im curious what you got that laughing joker up to

[odd frost]

yknow what would be awesome
if i got balatro university to play this

im thinking abt emailing him once i get the deck update out

[bronze elbow]

1200 or something

[bronze elbow]

once yacbm is out maybe theres a chance roffle could play both of these mods (low chance tho)

[odd frost]

hey can everyone thats up for a game of balatro here do a favor for me
can yall start a run with mimic joker and see if anything goes wrong

(just press 3 on the joker in the collection at the start and then play like normal)

if something goes wrong kindly post me a copy of the logs, and also see if you cant reproduce it

[bronze elbow]

when using a +chip joker (i dont know it this works for other jokers) it would retrigger wily joker 3 times then the mimic joker would act as wily joker (like brainstorm and blueprint does) basically wily joker 4 times

i used odd todd and it retrigger todd 4 times but mimic didnt act as the todd?

selling mimic when it is copying diet soda will create 2 double tags instead of 1

[odd frost]

uuuuuuu
ok

[lethal acorn]

the pains of blueprint likes

[odd frost]

yeah imma be real im getting real damn close to scrapping mimic

which is unfortunate bc it really truely is a fun concept

but like

[odd frost]

how tf am i supposed to know how to fix this?

[bronze elbow]

steal some onelses code /j

[odd frost]

that was option 2

[lethal acorn]

i cant even think of anything for it lmfao

its so set in stone at this point

[odd frost]

no i mean fully removing it

[bronze elbow]

you could scrap it and use one of my jokers 😉 /j /j /j /j /j

[odd frost]

yeah im not treating that as a joke

[bronze elbow]

ok then use plasma joker :)

[lethal acorn]

that bad

dang

[odd frost]

im gonna try to see if i can cheat on someones code first though

[lethal acorn]

we broke the rad

well no thatw asnt mei hope

[odd frost]

also @tropic finch bc this is all relevant to you

[bronze elbow]

mimic is painful i could imagine how hard it would be to code

[odd frost]

im sorry if i do end up replacing it

[odd frost]

hey whats your mod list

[lethal acorn]

joke a cola

[odd frost]

cus i got one tag from doing this

[lethal acorn]

honestly i batch test mods to find stuff wrong sometimes

like i divvy it in half, check both halves for whatever problem im having

dividide the half again, and so on

[odd frost]

odd todd also worked just fine

[bronze elbow]

hmmmm its card sleeve (i was using red deck blue sleeve) tesseract and talisman

[odd frost]

whats tesseract?

[bronze elbow]

fun mod thats in beta

dont think it would affect anything tho

its just some jokers

no other mechanics

[odd frost]

yeah expecially bc mimic joker doesnt rely on any patches

can you do me a favor and check if it has a lovely folder?

cus thats gonna be the patches it makes

[bronze elbow]

OHHH it doesn't

[odd frost]

ok

damn

i got nothing then

[bronze elbow]

balala

[odd frost]

can you reproduce these bugs?

[bronze elbow]

OH BTW im using lovely on MAC dont know if that matters?

[odd frost]

might do

low chance i say though

[bronze elbow]

ill switch off all my mods

and try to recreate

[odd frost]

danke

[cunning flame]

my mod

[odd frost]

mmm cool

you can confirm you dont have any patches?

or anything that modifies this or that code?

[bronze elbow]

hey man

[odd frost]

like an smods hook or something

[odd frost]

wtf

[bronze elbow]

MAYBE IM ON THE WRONG VERSION OF AOTD has there been a new beta?

[odd frost]

here one sec

yeahhh i might have made changes in my development version

ill copy paste what mimic is over here rq

[bronze elbow]

silly silly

[odd frost]

https://github.com/radbanker/Art-of-the-Deal.The-peoples-card-collection

update v1.1.1 'Pissbaby'
-mimic might be fixed

[bronze elbow]

update pissbaby is crazy

[bronze elbow]

should add v1.1.1 to the version history

[odd frost]

ok there we go

[bronze elbow]

chill

[viscid rose]

if mimic is still broken, later when i get home i can try and fork the current version and attempt to fix - i have a very similar joker that copies all jokers, and it has a couple checks/assurances mimic doesn't, which might be the problem idk

[serene pelican]

V1.1.1 pissbaby

amazing

[odd frost]

if its still broken, thatd be amazing

[lethal acorn]

mimic my behated apparently

[odd frost]

funny

[odd frost]

half tempted to upload wip update as a branch so yall can try out premium/quartered deck

i wanna know how they play

[bronze elbow]

what were the decks you chose for the next update?

[naive shell]

in vanilla this would be the best joker in the game with how fast this scales

[bronze elbow]

It is SOOOOO op

[naive shell]

even if it was +1 mult it would be very powerful even if it was a rare

[bronze elbow]

the art is a bit weird, the background is so dark

[naive shell]

I could potentially see it being balanced if there was a reset mechanic (resets every ante would probably be the most fair)

[bronze elbow]

that would make it horrible

ngl I like it how it is

[odd frost]

the two mentioned, overcrowded (if i can figure out how to code it), carnival, and coupon

you can seem them in the spritesheet if you scroll up a bit

[bronze elbow]

ok gotcha

[odd frost]

yeah im realizing that, but also i cant help but feel it isnt that bad weirdly enough

oh yeah and the document deck
@clear dust got any updates on art?

@sacred turtle you never gave me an ability for this iirc

if you dont its not getting in

[bronze elbow]

Why you chose that one then if it had no ability 😭 I was hoping of odd deck ngl

[odd frost]

odd deck is kinda eh to me tbh

well

idea

could be like how checkered works

where even cards become the next odd card instead of deleted

that could be something

if they dont come back to me with an ability youre in

[clear dust]

Ill try to get on it tonight. Just been a bit busy

[odd frost]

all good, just checkin in

[fading crow]

Isn't odd deck is basically checkered deck but with even less cards? (Face cards count as 10s iirc)

[bronze elbow]

maybe keep the face cards? or face cards turn into aces /hj

[odd frost]

its closer to ancient deck with less cards in its original idea

(checkered doesnt actually have less cards)

[odd frost]

sorry abandoned deck

obviously the solution is to make each face card an ace

no way that could go wrong

[bronze elbow]

noo waaaay that could go wrong

maybe just keep the face cards

[odd frost]

thered just be twenty aces no biggie

maybe i could make a config lol

'stupid or non stupid odd deck'

[bronze elbow]

thats chill

[fading crow]

Sorry for brainrot
I meant Abandoned

deck

[odd frost]

mhm

my idea is to move up every even card to the next rank

so 2s to 3s, 4s to 5s, etc

[fading crow]

So you would 5oak deck then

That's busted

[odd frost]

though that does allow 5oaks to happen

yeah

'5oak is nerfed'

idk

[fading crow]

Mb deck makes it so odd cards retrigger

[odd frost]

theres still 4oak so eh

[bronze elbow]

all odd cards have random enhancement

[odd frost]

yknow
i feel theres potential for deck based retriggers in general

[fading crow]

Design space for decks in Vanilla Balatro is in general super under explored

[odd frost]

and then theres challenges

yknow my mind keeps going back to that idea i saw where each normal blind is a boss blind and every boss blind is replaced with a finisher

like as a non challenge deck

cus you do get bonuses

more money for one

cus its defined by what blind it is

matador is actually insane here too

[fading crow]

What if odd deck basically had an ability of Opps all 6s?

[odd frost]

imma be real, the more i think about odd deck the less i like it, for balance reasons

its an interesting deck, just not particularly balanced

and there being even cards feels wrong

[fading crow]

idk about that but probabilities mechanic is quite niche but very fun to play with

also has cool combos and good explosive potential

in econ and scoring

and it still stacks with regular Opps joker

«Deck of Odds»

[fading crow]

No, it's like not odd numbered cards themed but odds that are probabilities/chances

[odd frost]

god i wish i could search within a singular forum post

[viscid rose]

@odd frost was mimic working? wanted to check so i don't branch for no reason lol

[odd frost]

i think its good now but no one has checked really

dw about it

[viscid rose]

sounds good

[odd frost]

i do actually kinda want people's opinions on this sooo

one sec

im going to be completely biased and say my favorite is || boss deck ||

[sacred turtle]

Gives voucher tags after defeating the boss blinds. You can buy voucher with the dept of -$5. Earn maximumly $3 interest each round

[odd frost]

ok cool

[odd frost]

for the record this poll still stands if i cant figure out how to code a different one

[odd frost]

though realistically i think its best if interest vouchers still work, just instead doubling interest to 6 and 12 dolar respectively

[sacred turtle]

Actually, that's what I thought

[odd frost]

ok the phrasing just tripped me up a little

it sounded like $3 was the max period

even with to the moon and the vouchers

[sacred turtle]

Maybe should have been "The cap on interest is decreased by 2"

[odd frost]

nah something like initial cap being 3

max interest starts at 3

somethin like that

[odd frost]

https://github.com/radbanker/Art-of-the-Deal.The-peoples-card-collection/tree/Decks-Preview

ATTENTION:
I have created a branch with the new updates, plus a couple other changes

I want you all to try the new decks, to see how they feel

[viscid rose]

mimic seems to be fixed 🔥

[odd frost]

woo!

[viscid rose]

not sure what happened to feline here though lol

(line on the art)

[odd frost]

huh

weird i dont see that in the spritesheets

[viscid rose]

also our mods are seemingly almost compatible, for some reason jikjok from mine doesn't want to actually have any effects when combined with yours lmao

[odd frost]

whats that one do?

[viscid rose]

it's the one that doubles the blind size, gives chips if you make a eprcent of the blind requirement (im going to increase it but it's at 35% right now)

plus can make cards bonus, although that'll need some work too cause it's pretty overpowered and essentially fulfills itself right now

[odd frost]

mhmmmm

oh and updated red envelope (not in that branch, yet)

@bronze elbow

[odd frost]

now its updated, reinstall if you care but itll be in the full release when that gets here anyways

[thick geyser]

Using the old Red Envelope and https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1335318659169517659, I found out the true power of J-Reader Card

[odd frost]

what does j reader do?

[thick geyser]

X2 Blind Size, Copies all copyable jokers
it's nuts

[odd frost]

geeeeez

if it didnt have a downside itd be legendary

[thick geyser]

You get it with any Xmult jokers, and the numbers just climb