3 new jonklers

[crude pike]

I had ideas bouncing around for a few new jokers. Lmk what yall think:

Fisherman: Sell this card to retrieve your last card sold.
Student ID: 1 in 4 chance to retrigger all numbered cards.
Four-Leaf Clover: Probabilities are guaranteed (doubled or tripled instead?) for the next 4 hands.

[vivid oyster]

I really like Clover, though I think it could use a tweak. I'd do quadrupled(good enough for anything aside from lucky $20's) for 3 rounds

Student ID is interesting too, though i don't think it's strong enough to the point where it's 1/4. just a standard 1/2 would be fair

[random basin]

4 leaf clover is insane with luckies

[vivid oyster]

Fisherman is a neat idea, but it's nowhere near powerful enough, and I can't think of a way to make it feel good to use without making it something else entirely

[crude pike]

I was originally going to make it 1/3 because of things like walkie talkie and hack

[azure peak]

1/2 is strong IMO because it states "all"

There is a 50/50 on this just being an all rank hack

Atleast that's how I interpret this

50/50 per card would be fair

[vivid oyster]

Twice as strong as hack, takes up twice the joker spots. Seems fair to me

[azure peak]

Acc

[azure peak]

Joker spots wym?

[vivid oyster]

Oops

[azure peak]

50/50 for all 10s, 9s, etc makes it better than hack as it can retrigger a full straight

In that regard it is immediately not just "twice as strong as hack"

It has twice the potential and a higher scoring limit

[vivid oyster]

Yeah, but it requires oops to get full use out of, which you aren’t guaranteed to find and doesn’t play well with glass

[azure peak]

I had a similar idea awhile ago, 1/2 for every card, a total of 24 times

[azure peak]

Again, are we discussing 1/2 for all cards this hand, or a seperate 1/2 per card (what i read it as initially)

[vivid oyster]

I imagined the latter, but either way it would play a lot like bloodstone

[azure peak]

Latter is balanced and 1/2 is fair

Former is busted

[vivid oyster]

I’m agreeing, sorry if it sounded like I wasn’t

[azure peak]

It's called discussing 🤓☝️

Balatro is a delicately balanced game, these discussions help make better Joker suggestions or sum

[vivid oyster]

Honestly, if it was 1/2, it would be feel better to use than bloodstone. Less triggers are less likely to kill your run than less bloodstone

[azure peak]

Inherently less potent than bloodstone tho

[vivid oyster]

True, though I can’t help but wish there was a “trial” mod, that took the best of these suggestions and implemented them

[azure peak]

Bloodstone can be a wonderful midgame card if you pick up an early lusty

[azure peak]

Tbf, I'm working on a personal project (I have made exactly one basic Joker for +1 chip if hand is flush house)

All my suggestions are just workshopping my ideas real time, peer review:D

[vivid oyster]

I love bloodstone, it just sometimes feels like it doesn’t love me back

[azure peak]

Yeahhh, its hard if you're trying to make a bloodstone run happen when you find it

Again, in ante 1/2, I pick up Lusty if I see it

[vivid oyster]

And even if you get it all working, the flag comes

[azure peak]

It's the problem with such centered strong builds

Bosses are to be somewhat expected, if you don't have a reroll you gotta keep options open

This is balanced as is, but it's weaker than bloodstone easily

Depending on rarity, 1/2 per card is really solid

Even if excluding K-Q

[crude pike]

Also my idea for this was basically if you had to sacrifice a joker to make room for another or you accidentally sold something you didn't want to, you could bring it back

It would be situational at best but could help rebuild previous strats