Twin Baby Girls Joker (Uncommon)

[normal spade]

Pair exactly, or includes a pair?

[topaz kernel]

pair exactly: it can't be too OP

[buoyant raft]

I like it, but the art should be two baby jimbos

[normal spade]

Nice

[simple silo]

Why is it named this

Is it referencing something specific?

[normal spade]

Two cards, and they're small

[topaz kernel]

(and cute)

[simple silo]

Why not just call it "twin babies" and then make them lil itty bitty versions of Odd Todd and Even Steven?

[lapis shard]

Pair is arguably the strongest hand in the game, it doesn't need something like this

[simple silo]

...is it?

[remote palm]

What?

[simple silo]

I mean, spare trousers, it's easy to play if you decide to level it up, synergy with "held in hand" stuff

But

[lapis shard]

Trousers isn’t a pair Joker

[simple silo]

Oh shit you're right it's two pair

[remote palm]

Pair, not 2pair

[lapis shard]

Pairs scale super well with any source of + mult, they’re incredibly easy to play and consistent, work great with blue seal and gold cards, and require no deck manip

[simple silo]

Anything scales well with a source of +mult

[lapis shard]

Pairs scale faster since you can easily play 4 pairs a round

[simple silo]

Why does that matter though?

[remote palm]

Pair is not the best hand

[simple silo]

I mean tbh "best hand" is kinda subjective since it depends on playstyle, I'm just tryna understand here

[remote palm]

Thats true

[lapis shard]

Playing 4 pairs vs something like 1 or 2 straights means you effectively get more value from the +mult

[simple silo]

That's not true tho cause you can play 2 straights and 2 pairs

[lapis shard]

Look it’s hard to explain well but pairs are really good

Like in the Balatro University 19 streak, he built around Pairs nearly every run

[topaz kernel]

that's why i thought limiting it to Aces, 2s, 3s, and 4s would be more balanced

[lapis shard]

And I’m not just echoing it since in my experience they are really good and way more consistent

[topaz kernel]

how would u suggest revising the joker?

[simple silo]

Ohhh okay I see so, are pairs something YOU play with often or have just seen people play with often?

[lapis shard]

Both

[lapis shard]

I don’t know tbh, my first thought is theming it around Triplets instead of Twins but I’m not sure if I like it

[buoyant raft]

Pairs are pretty strong. High consistency, trading a bit of consistency compared to Pluto for better scaling and access to more jokers, allows for pivoting into 3/4/5oak builds later

[topaz kernel]

do u think limiting it to Aces, 2s, and 3s would sufficiently debuff it?

[lapis shard]

I just don’t like the concept tbh

[buoyant raft]

It could increase the rank of the two cards played in the pair