Eighties Joker (Uncommon)

[candid plank]

I present to you a Joker idea inspired by the Plasma deck.
This Joker allows you to choose, depending on its order, when to reverse the Chips and Mults in order to improve your score.

Its most basic use is to reverse the score before adding Chips to benefit from the Chip value of the hand that is higher than the mult. The goal is to try to place the Joker so that the Chips and Mults are the most balanced.

It therefore allows a revaluation of the "Chips Jokers", Bonus Cards, Foil and Higher rank cards by allowing their multiplication between them rather than their addition.

I'll let you think long and hard to find the possible combinations!

[vernal saddle]

Does this activate with joker order?

I dont understand actually

[candid plank]

Yes, like the classic Joker, its effect is applied during its activation turn.

[vernal saddle]

So, lets say I play a lvl 3 straight, it has 90 chips and 10 mult.
What happens exactly

[candid plank]

If this is the only Joker you have, then the calculation is 10 x 90, which doesn't change anything.
However, if you have the Devious Joker that plays next, then the calculation would be 110 x 90 which is much higher than 190 x 10.

[sage silo]

ok so like
90 x 10
SWITCH
10 x 90
devious
110 x 90

interesting

[vernal saddle]

ic

[devout lily]

This feels like more of a common joker imo

[sand rover]

Common Jokers are all simple +X, this is complex enough to be uncommon, but a cheap uncommon

[vernal saddle]

This goes well with planets yeah

A nice leveled up planet with some xmult

[devout lily]

It's only really useful with +chips so I feel like common is reasonable for it

[vernal saddle]

I think its definitely uncommon

With just a few planets you're looking at a pretty good base mult value to multiply

[devout lily]

Reminder that 2x(4×3) is the same as (2×3)×4

[vernal saddle]

Chips jokers give lots of chips

And are pretty common

This isnt INSANE but like

Its not common joker standards

As the example above says,
190×10<110×90
So,
190×10×3<110×90×3

Fuck

[white spire]

Would allow you to also grind high mult, switch it over to chips and grind high mult again to recreate plasma deck balance and basically do a sort of X chips.

[devout lily]

Like I said, this would mostly only be useful with +chips because base mult values are usually low and +chips can give a lot of chips

+mult would be harmed because base chips are higher and you don't get as much mult from +mult

And Xmult wouldn't be affected

[white spire]

Say you start off with 90x10. Get +50 mult X3: 90x180. Switch sides to 180x90 and do X2 mult and boom you have 180x180 balanced with only one + mult, two X mult and one eighties joker

[vernal saddle]

+mult doesn't have to be harmed

Arrange your jokers well

You'd mostly run +chips instead though, switch and multiply

[candid plank]

In this case the inversion has no impact because 180 x 180 equals 90 x 360

[white spire]

bad example but I hope you get what I mean

[vernal saddle]

This is great imo

[white spire]

or does the math just equal out anyway?

[vernal saddle]

Also high effort suggestions post!!!

[vernal saddle]

With your example, yeah it does

Even if you switch the numbers around

[white spire]

Ooh, but on plasma deck you can play this joker first and then start of with crazy high mult immediately to increase with only X mults

[vernal saddle]

This would trivialise plasma deck maybe?

Since plasma deck strategy is stacking up +chips early

But now you can do that, and if you find this joker, you can get xmult for insane value

And balance

This is like a very good custom uncommon joker

[white spire]

this joker placed first lets you go off of like 10x300 and then pull only x mults from there

if you play a bunch of bonus cards

[vernal saddle]

You'd wanna put +chips first, no?

[white spire]

for mid to late plasma deck

anyway joker approved, localthunk MUST add

[near river]

This is fire

Kinda reminds me of the joker that balances chips and mult in the Cryptid mod

[silk topaz]

i like it :)

[random zephyr]

This sounds cracked

[candid plank]

Here are some examples of situations to take advantage of the Eighties Joker :

[sage silo]

wait if this is the case then i misunderstood something

why is Eighties in front?

wait no i misunderstood everything, please carry one

im the one thats dumb i just did the math it all checks out

[candid plank]

Detailed calculation for the first example:
Flush (Lvl.1)
35 x 4
Cards Chips
(35 + 10 + 8 + 6 + 4 + 2) × 4
Arrowhead
(65 + 50 + 50 + 50 + 50 + 50) × 4
Eighties
4 × 315
Crafty
(4 + 80) × 315
Total
26,460

To take advantage of the Eighties Joker, you must make sure to distribute a part of the Chips on each side to multiply them between them during the final calculation.

There are other cases where the optimal location of the Eighties is not the first position, for example in the illustration of the post in which I placed a Wee Joker first which is then copied by Brainstorm which allows to obtain the value of the Wee squared

[hollow nymph]

bump, this is a cool idea. swapping chips and mult during scoring could result in some really unique and powerful combinations!

[sand turret]

if you have two stuntmans then put it in the middle of them what happens?

Cool

Makes sense

Sick joker idea

[frigid trout]

This is rad as hell, could easily see myself doing runs with this

Would also make a really good custom challenge with an eternal 80s joker or something

[eager loom]

I had a similar, simpler idea. "Upside down joker", simply put it swaps around base chips and base mult of hands.