#Grim - Balatro Skill Trees

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hidden quartz
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Either?

swift elk
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either high stakes for xp or just the xp but without any other stake modifiers i mean

hidden quartz
swift elk
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oh does gold stake itself give the same as turbo then

hidden quartz
swift elk
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oh fr?

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ill try a gold stake run later ig

hidden quartz
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I've had this discussion many times

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One of the reasons why I've stopped playing this altogether

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It's just not very accessible

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I might go into the mod files and change how much xp turbo stake gives

shy osprey
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this is correct

hidden quartz
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Thanks for the confirmation

dreamy crane
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Now that I know higher stakes are the intended way to play I'm enjoying this a lot more lol.
Previously i was skipping for the 100 xp tag and then building xp interest with the vouchers. Best I'd managed on white stake was grabbing maybe 4 skills?

hazy crag
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I enjoy that this mod teases you at lower stakes, where it's just not needed, but grabbing an extra hand size or getting yourself -1 ante as you're nearing the end really helps out as you get to the hard part. The balance is perfect, and it has never caused me a single crash or conflict.

But despite all the special jokers I sell to get a new class, it only ever gives me Explorer. I have been using this for so long and I cant get any other class. Explorer is okay, but most areas are worse to go to than staying on normal. And area card packs will waste and ruin any collected double tag effects. It's also weird that the area packs you get from Explorer only seem to open after you open another kind of pack in the store. Still, I do make use of the Market area. Just wish there was more worth to the class.

hazy crag
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As soon as I say that, I confusingly end up finding more area cards. I'm left still clueless on how I got this bigger selection. It's a little frustrating but it's also part of the charm, to have to go out and find how it all works.

shy osprey
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You likely took Metro which has a secret feature to take you to other areas

dreamy crane
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I read here that pre-bettercalc won't be getting updates.
I also saw that currently the bettercalc version is the same feature-wise for the moment.
So should I use that instead? And is that the v1.1.0 version released on December 20th? I'm not sure what the "beta branch" i saw mentioned is either as the only branch i can see is main

shy osprey
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The latest commit is the bettercalc version

shy osprey
dreamy crane
shy osprey
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green code button

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download ZIP

dreamy crane
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Thank you. Very helpful

shy osprey
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np

dreamy crane
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You've probably just helped me in getting a lot of mods for a lot of games up to date

shy osprey
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lol

hazy crag
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Been having these cases where if I try to continue a game, it will crash. And it gives the same error about mult when this crash has happened before. I assuemd it was because these saves are always after ante 8 and I just scored too high or something. This time I left off at only ante 10 and I wasn't getting scores that big though. I shrunk my modlist down to whatever would allow me to continue the game, and with just Fusion Jokers, Tsunami, and Grim, I still get this error. So I'm now thinking this might be caused by Strike, or something in Grim affecting Mult after loading a save.

shy osprey
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The squished skills have been fixed

late jetty
shy osprey
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potentially

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I’ll look at this

vapid otter
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C O M P R E S S E D
@shy osprey

shy osprey
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Again?

dreamy crane
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Ok, that's kinda funny

grim owl
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Is there a fix to this crash? I see a similar or the exact same crash above. Is it Talisman that the problem? I thought I saw that in another message. Any help is appreciated.

dreamy crane
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There was a hotfix for talisman 28 minutes ago that looks like it might be addressing this

keen prawn
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grim

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How do you earn xp? Is it through packs? I just beat ante 3 and only have 3 xp

shy osprey
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Play on a higher stake

keen prawn
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Ok gotcha thank you

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Are you supposed to earn xp after every blind?

shy osprey
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Only boss blinds

keen prawn
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Ohh gotcha

keen prawn
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Nice mod, I’m really enjoying it

shy osprey
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ty

dreamy crane
graceful sinew
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am i just misunderstanding how the strike 1 skill works or is my version just bugged? it doesn't add any mult once i play a hand

shy osprey
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Hmm it should add mult at the start of scoring

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I can test this out

graceful sinew
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oop shit formatting

shy osprey
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huh

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Is this oldcalc or newcalc

graceful sinew
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that might be where ive gone wrong lol

shy osprey
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How do you download Grim

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*did

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Was it with the green code button?

graceful sinew
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yes it was

shy osprey
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Okay

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And when did you last download Steamodded

graceful sinew
shy osprey
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so I've just tested Strike and it works fine, may be a mod conflict

graceful sinew
shy osprey
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many visual bugs have been fixed, also Ante Banners have correct descriptions now

stray ibex
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does this work with the 1.0.0 steammoded release?

shy osprey
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please use the latest commit of steamodded with grim

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unless you are using grim's oldclc release

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in which case use oldcalc steamodded

stray ibex
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okay, cheers

shy osprey
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enjoy

twilit dove
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tbh current skill tree looks kinda boring

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for me skill trees should look like this

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many paths and upgrades that require 2 other upgrades to unlock

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ngl too used for trees

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like this

shy osprey
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not coding that

twilit dove
shy osprey
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yes

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im not coding the ui to make it look like that

shy osprey
twilit dove
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smh this would be so peak if they were moved differently a little

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pyramid looks slightly outdated

shy osprey
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pyramid?

twilit dove
shy osprey
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ig

twilit dove
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tbh tho it'd be hard with current skills

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the connection's are going crazy a bit

twilit dove
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when release to mod manager

shy osprey
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Grim and cruel blinds have already been submitted

fallen stump
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👀

shy osprey
fallen stump
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When I move the mouse over a random skill

shy osprey
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too many mods for me to actually do anything about this bug report, sry

twilit dove
cosmic steppe
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just downloaded grim, but i can't seem to get any of the skills, as when i click on any, i get this error, is there another mod i should download with this

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i also have cryptid as well, idk if that has to do with anything

twilit dove
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if u didnt scroll down

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💔

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welp if theres 'number' and 'table' on top then theres a high chance its because of talisman

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smh nothing supports this mfing mod

cosmic steppe
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Yeah man ik, this seems impossible hahaha, cheers man🫡

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Just gonna have to sacrifice talisman n cryptic and maybe play on a separate game file

hazy crag
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So is this mod just not compatible with Cryptid? I tried to purchase the first skill, Chime I, and it crashes.

cosmic steppe
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yeah fr, that was the issue

old root
shy osprey
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I’d have to look back at it

tame wadi
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yeah grim stimm broken

tame wadi
tame wadi
shy osprey
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turbo stakers rejoice

vapid otter
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👀

vapid otter
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GLASS CARD HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!

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All thanks to the ghost skill

vapid otter
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The final result

night kindle
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Hello, for some reasons my RPG cards don't seem to ever work, even after disabling every other mods I had, would someone had an idea of how I could try to fix that? 😦

shy osprey
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This bug is inexplicably persistent and inconsistent

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I truly do not know how to fix it

fluid coral
night kindle
fluid coral
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what's in steamodded's version.lua file

night kindle
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return "1.0.0~BETA-0312b-STEAMODDED"

night kindle
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Oh also while I'm at it, Mystical 1 "All arcana packs have +1 option and choice" only gives my arcana packs +1 option, but not +1 choice (I can choose from 4 tarot but can only pick 1).

trim sun
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Regular saving to clipboard wouldn't work

trim sun
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Yeah, all planets cards cause a crash

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removing talisman fixed it

shy osprey
minor tapir
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crashes whenever i hover over the skills

night kindle
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Oh this is a fun one: Gravity 1 only adds Pluto

night kindle
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And... Apparently it also replaces planets with more Pluto?

forest spire
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Pluto is the fallback card

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Limely you have instances of the other planets somewhere so it cant make duplicates

night kindle
jovial jay
jovial jay
shy osprey
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Noted, should be fixed today

shy osprey
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it's fixed

jovial jay
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Might be mods compat issue (no idea how to check without doing a full game) but if i pack cards and then play i crash, was using the old version might be fixed already

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Disregard ^ it doesn't seem to happen with only your mods, unsure what happened tho

shy osprey
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I’ll still check it out

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It’s fine to report mod incompatibilities

leaden wedge
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@shy osprey Are you still interested in getting your mods added to BMM? Just needs a tiny tweak to #149

shy osprey
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I’m aware

leaden wedge
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No worries, it's just been hanging for a few weeks, wasn't sure if it had been forgotten

shy osprey
jovial jay
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Here the crash btw

shy osprey
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fixed on 1.1.5a

cinder kindle
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what does strike do. it gives base mult and chips so i thought that it gives mult and chips to all hands, but it doesnt seem like it

shy osprey
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What is your version of Grim

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@cinder kindle

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As this appears to be a bug you are describing

cinder kindle
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yea on another run my base mult and chip balancing didnt work so it seemed

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it says 1.1.0

cinder kindle
shy osprey
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ye update and use newcalc and u should be good

cinder kindle
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welp im always on new calc

shy osprey
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@spare nimbus your suggestion has been accepted

cinder kindle
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reminds me of betmmas vouchers

shy osprey
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I imagine Denver was heavily inspired

spare nimbus
shy osprey
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np

shy osprey
fair skiff
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honestly i dont really like the system with the high stakes because it just makes the high stakes easier

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which is kinda antithetical to the point of stakes

midnight sand
night kindle
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Yeah while the "harder stakes gives more XP" makes a lot of sense thematically it doesn't really work that well with Balatro's balance. I do like bosses giving XP as the basic way (beat enemies to get XP), with some alternate ways here or there.

vapid otter
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I hate the fact that four classes are ridiculously hard to unlock

shy osprey
midnight sand
night kindle
fluid coral
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Motley III wants to know your location

shy osprey
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Yeah Motley III is intended for that unlock

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I’d be surprised if someone used 52 actual Wild Cards

fierce jetty
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what is t his

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i got 1 xp from the boss 😭

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do i need to like

shy osprey
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Read

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You need to read

fierce jetty
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where do i read

shy osprey
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The GitHub explains this

fierce jetty
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ah

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ok

shy osprey
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But in short play on a higher stake

fierce jetty
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i just didn't know WHERE to read

shy osprey
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Or Turbo Stake

fierce jetty
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fair enough

shy osprey
shy osprey
night kindle
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I'd suggest pinning the poll!

fair skiff
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are there any other methods of destroying apart from hex, ankh, and madness

shy osprey
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dagger

fair skiff
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oh theres dagger

shy osprey
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food jokers

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Mr. Bones

shy osprey
vapid otter
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@shy osprey
It's sad that this mod didn't have crossover with Bunco 😔

shy osprey
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It kinda did

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Arcturus and Vega stellar cards

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But no skills rn

vapid otter
fair skiff
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i was actually really interested to see what would come out of tetrominoes

vapid otter
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Maybe something like this?
Linked card can be choose independently

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So you can still enhance the linked cards

trim sun
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Maybe have XP gain tied to classes?

fair skiff
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this intrigues me

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make it so all the classes do smth related to xp

shy osprey
# shy osprey
poll_question_text

Considering altering the main method gaining XP? Which source should I do? (This poll may be ended early)

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victor_answer_text

Stickers on items which grant XP on specific conditions

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so the plan is a combination of the bottom 3 options

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this will shift XP gain to more of an active effort than passive

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requiring sometimes taking sub-par jokers for their stickers or using one of your joker slots for an XP joker

shy osprey
cinder kindle
shy osprey
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ty

jovial jay
shy osprey
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if all works well you're xp gain will be based around the effort you put into getting the XP badged items and XP-based jokers and a little bit of luck

flat basalt
shy osprey
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Grim v1.2.0 is out, should be at least kinda balanced

junior linden
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One thing I'd like to see I think is a rework to RPG cards. Right now they are either too weak and not worth the investment, or ridiculously overpowered thanks to many retriggers. How about buffing the amount of exp they give, but have them trigger on first score only (not affected by hanging chad and sock'n'buskin)?

shy osprey
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Them being a good xp source isn’t what I’d call overpowered

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Although they can be pretty weak if you only have a few with no retriggers

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I don’t think I have enough reason to change them rn but I have read and noted this criticism.

cinder kindle
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is this enough xp

shy osprey
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Wh

shy osprey
midnight hedge
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idk man i think he should get a bit more just in case

fair skiff
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multiple cosmic credits maybe?

shy osprey
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i only see 1

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although i see what might be a bunch of negative energy bars

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and they may have lots of accomplishment badges

wet crag
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How are you supposed to get the loot and attack cards?

shy osprey
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Astro Dungeon challenge

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that's it

wet crag
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thanks

cinder kindle
# shy osprey How????

the accomplishment badge gives 75 exp per ante. so i used the rift raft mod which you can store in the void to make then negative and just took abut every joker with a badge

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also the same for the cards

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and cosmic card

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this was without cryptid aswell

midnight hedge
cinder kindle
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lmao didnt notice

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cinema

trim sun
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penile

shy osprey
cursive flume
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this looks good

shy osprey
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ty

night kindle
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I like the update, and it somehow made RPG cards work for the 1st time for me! xD

shy osprey
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Nice

hollow sapphire
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i'm a big dummy dumb and always forget to learn skills :(

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some kind of notification when a skill can be unlocked would be awesome, even just a red dot like the one used in the collection

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other than that, really awesome mod, adds a complete new dimension to the game

shy osprey
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Thanks and that idea has been suggested many times, should probably add that

lament grail
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just installed this mod and i wanted to say i really like it so far! it really changes the way you play. i also appreciate the cross mod support with ortalab

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oh it also supports morefluff color cards, nice!

shy osprey
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tysm, glad you like it

shy osprey
lament grail
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it's more intuitive than the previous version at least

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i was gonna ask, do chime abilities count retroactively or do they only count rounds after they're bought?

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i'm guessing the latter but i wanna make sure

shy osprey
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it is not retroactive

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and the higher tiers will not be changing

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this is just to give Chime I a more immediate effect, since currently it' can't help you until you beat the Ante 7 boss

lament grail
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ah, ok. it would be good if it had a tooltip for when its next trigger is, just in case you forgot when you got it

shy osprey
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is it really that hard to tell when the next multiple of 4 or 3 is? I feel like that's not needed.

lament grail
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so wait, is it 3 rounds after you get it or rounds with a multiple of 3?

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it's not that big a deal i just like having more info

shy osprey
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it's every 3rd ante

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or 4th

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Chime II always triggers on antes 4, 8, 12, 16, ...

lament grail
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ohhhhhhhhh ok

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that makes more sense than what i was thinking

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i kinda thought it was like, if you got it on ante 2 than it would trigger 4 later on ante 6

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sorry i'm dumb lol

shy osprey
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ur good, everyone brain farts

shy osprey
fierce jetty
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+1 play size?

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card selection?

shy osprey
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yes

exotic mantle
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shouldn't I be able to afford this? it shows no requirements... (unless i need a legendary token, i don't see what i'm missing here)

tame wadi
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You already have explorer

exotic mantle
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ohh i can only choose one between explorer and this one?

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also not a big issue, but there is a small typo here (it should be "guaranteed" not "guarenteed")

shy osprey
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oh

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dang

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thanks

shy osprey
lament grail
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i always love when mods have custom challenges. interesting concepts

shy osprey
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ty

shy osprey
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wait, i should unban Receipt I, it can't help you anyway

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since no money is earned at cash out

hollow sapphire
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I think something broke fwushy

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uppercase lowercase git issue again

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stickers.png -> Stickers.png

shy osprey
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idk

golden wigeon
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I can't seem to get the "Reroll 15 times" requirement to unlock.

shy osprey
golden wigeon
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yup

shy osprey
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k I’ll look into it

shy osprey
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upcoming

trim sun
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Required score does not update after buying Bell II

shy osprey
lilac sonnet
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you forgot a ","

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here too

lilac sonnet
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is it supposed to give me two hanged mans? i unlocked the Spectral Shard upgrade

hollow sapphire
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bro roasting the mod to no end 💀

lilac sonnet
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how can i roast my source of inspiration 😭

hollow sapphire
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just enjoy and play bugged mods like the rest of us

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joke

shy osprey
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All four of these issues have been noted

shy osprey
lilac sonnet
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i was so baffled when the new astral cards started to appear lol

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this is neat

shy osprey
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ty

vapid otter
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It's been a while since I working on the translation of this mod 😅

lilac sonnet
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lmao its fine, i guess no one reported because they didnt use that language

shy osprey
shy osprey
lilac sonnet
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Gensokyo Consumables is just a reskin mod for consumeables

last sapphire
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Is there info for how the packing works? Red seals seem to retrigger all cards for each held, they also give their chips, Although blue seals seem to not work at all while packed so this is a mystery to me, code seems to be too hard for me to understand too

shy osprey
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As for the red seals I’m not sure what you mean, are you reporting a bug?

last sapphire
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So are packed cards supposed to only give chips (and mult for mult cards/editions)?

cedar flume
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what is not compatible with the mod ?

hollow sapphire
lilac sonnet
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beautiful

hollow sapphire
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gonna PR

shy osprey
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very likely to accept this, tysm

hollow sapphire
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still didn't PR because i forgot, should happen today

hollow sapphire
hollow sapphire
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hmmm, there are some inaccuracies with the displayed number some times

tame bone
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wow it's been a while since i played this mod and i gotta say

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i love the way packed cards work now

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like seriously, i found them pretty forgettable last time i played since they were so hard to make work, but now it might be my favorite class

shy osprey
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nice

spiral junco
tame bone
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i like that i can do this bc i don't want to deal with facedown cards right now, but i probably shouldn't be able to lol

shy osprey
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i thought i handled that

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this bug has been noted

tame bone
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oh hm it also has a strange interaction with perkeo

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perkeo does create negative playing cards but there's no way to put them back into your deck (honestly reasonable imo), but they also don't properly add 1 consumable slot, so it just gets jammed with no way to free up a slot to start copying something else

shy osprey
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I definitely did a patch for that, I’m gonna assume a steamodded thing happened between then and now

tame bone
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i hope the interaction with perkeo stays tho bc it's so fun and perkeo already has the highest ceiling of the legendaries so i think it's fine to toss out balance just this once

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and i mean it's not even that unbalanced

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comparatively

shy osprey
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I do plan on fixing the bug

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Perkeo should only copy consumables

tame bone
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Aw

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Fair enough

hollow sapphire
shy osprey
trim sun
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Ah, the suggestion form is still operational

shy osprey
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These were compiled from before the form

torn saddle
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i have a question

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can i satck elements on a card

torn saddle
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nvm

shy osprey
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idk what that error is

naive kernel
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My game is crashing whenever i try to play a hand while I have a playing card packed

lilac sonnet
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id suggest sending the crash log here, so mathguy knows what hes dealing with

naive kernel
neat saffron
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Started finally using the mod again and honestly it’s really fun trying to work a build around effective joker usage and the smaller stickers (and playing around that)

Feels more satisfying than just getting tons of XP by default because of playing a high stake

shy osprey
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glad to hear it, tbh I should listen to criticisms more cuz this was argued against SO early on

shy osprey
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(The stakes giving XP thing to be clear)

rugged girder
# naive kernel

I am having same crash from same action, playing hand when i have a card packed

naive kernel
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wait higher stakes give more exp? that doesn't sound right
higher stakes are supposed to be more difficult, not easier

shy osprey
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that was how it used to work

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now stakes have no impact on xp gain

naive kernel
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ok good

shy osprey
naive kernel
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nice

silent schooner
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hello

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where can i find the download link?

shy osprey
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top

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message, github

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use green code button > download ZIP

silent schooner
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thank you

shy osprey
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np

dreamy compass
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Hi, i thought it was worth sending this message here, I traced a crash when learning the skill Receipt I. I crash when clicking the cash out button after having learnt the skill

shy osprey
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noted

jade forge
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Every time I touch the select button in the blind this happen

jade forge
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I downloaded the first version, sorry, with the latest works

shy osprey
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ur good

dreamy compass
dreamy compass
# dreamy compass Awesome! will try in debug

Okay nothing's crashing when I only have Grim and debugplus enabled. But I think I have found an incompatibility with Saturn, while going through my mod list one by one i have found out I crash when having learnt Receipt I and Saturn enabled. I'll just avoid that skill for the time being

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Should I send this crash log to the Saturn discussion post as well? Sorry I'm not really familiar with the protocol around here, just wanna enjoy the game and mods 😅

shy osprey
finite granite
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the skill tree button does not show up for me for some reason

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i'm guessing its a mod incompatibility?

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hopefully not with entropy since thats the only mod I got that noticeably changes the ui with the addition of the entropy meter.

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if it is that cause I'll just run without grim for now cus entropy too good.

finite granite
# twilit dove

also, yo I know this is an old message but what mod is this??? unless its like a server thingy, like wynncraft.

twilit dove
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idk myself tbh but lemme search

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seems like its "Age of Exile" mod skill tree rework or sum kind of that, but u gotta check that urself ig

shy osprey
finite granite
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aight, sad. I'll try letting them know of the problem

south quest
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Oh yeah I think I mentioned this too on there, hopefully there will be progress soon

somber crystal
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@shy osprey Why don't the skills get added to Collection when unlocking all?

shy osprey
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did you check Other

somber crystal
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Yes

shy osprey
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cuz that's where Skills are

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and if you already unlocked all before downloading Grm then you will need to get a new profile or reset the current one to unlock all again OR use DebugPlus to manualy unlock them all OR unlock then all by playing the game

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whatever you wish to do

somber crystal
somber crystal
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The other stuff in your mod is in collection

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Just not Skills

shy osprey
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skills should be added when unlocking all

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lemme check to make sure

somber crystal
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K

shy osprey
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sometime sbug just pop up die to steamodded updating or mod incompatibilities

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worked for me, must be an incompat

somber crystal
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Ah, okay

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Is there a way to do it manually

shy osprey
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you can try using DebugPlus

somber crystal
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I think Entropy does it for me

somber crystal
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I just keep it disabled because it spams :3 on the screen lol

shy osprey
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the 1 key while hovering over it in the collection

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to unlock locked skills

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2 discovers

somber crystal
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K

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That did the trick :3

shy osprey
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have fun

somber crystal
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Will do

somber crystal
shy osprey
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can i get context

somber crystal
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I have a bunch of mods installed. I added Grim and it broke, took it out and it worked.

shy osprey
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oh ye

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i fixed this

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but it's not released yet

somber crystal
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Ah, okay.

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Ping me when it gets released.

somber crystal
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@shy osprey Hey, can I please have the fixed version?
I remade my modpack, and I haven't gotten to try out your mod yet.

shy osprey
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k fine, give me like 10 mins

somber crystal
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Yay

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Thanks

shy osprey
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download 1.2.6i

somber crystal
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K

somber crystal
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@shy osprey I need a button for Skill Tree
Clicking Run Info crashes my game (not a problem from your mod, but still a problem)

somber crystal
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I know

shy osprey
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eval G.FUNCS.your_skill_tree() with DebugPlus should open the menu though

somber crystal
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I still haven't gotten to try out your mod lol

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If you can figure out the incompat, I can delete it.

shy osprey
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legit don't know

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sry

somber crystal
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K

shy osprey
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and ur sure you got 1.2.6i

somber crystal
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Lemme check

somber crystal
shy osprey
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bruh

south quest
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don't know if this particularly is related to the mod but I think it has a startup crash with the newest version of entropy

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/UI_definitions.lua:6661: 'end' expected (to close 'for' at line 6652) near 'else'


Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0531a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback
===============
(3)  C function 'function: 0x3329bc30'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 882
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x3329a5d0  {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x3329a5f8, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])```
shy osprey
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Scroll up

south quest
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Ah my fault

dusk tiger
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Just curious if anyone else who uses this mod and Trance notices that Grim causes Trance to revert to the vanilla green blind background when these two mods are used together? I just figured out it's a conflict between these two mods...

shy osprey
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ye, Grim has a feature which changes the background so it def clashes

trim sun
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Quick question: Do packed cards trigger enhacement/Edition/Seal/Joker effects?

shy osprey
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not joker effects

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they should trigger enhancements, editions, and seals tho

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note these cards aren't held in hand

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also no pruple seal if you discard it from slots

south quest
tacit wagon
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Oooookay, TIL cards shoved up into your consumables give their Chips value

shy osprey
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have fun

tacit wagon
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Negative cards don't increase consumable slot count btw

shy osprey
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this probably will not be fixed

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as negative playing cards are a things from other mods

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and also it's kinda nnoying to do

tacit wagon
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Is the skill the only way to get J. Jimball?

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Why can't I play 5 cards?

shy osprey
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what's your mod list

tacit wagon
tacit wagon
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I'd give energy bar 41XP

shy osprey
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no

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I see the vision

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But no

fluid coral
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is there a way to make it decrement after awarding?
i guess it could just add +1 in the final calculation and otherwise remain as it currently is

shy osprey
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this isn't really an issue if you ask me

tacit wagon
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@shy osprey Do the numbers mean anything?

shy osprey
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do they?

midnight hedge
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76,180,947 + 23,571,131 = 99,752,078
unless if i'm reading it wrong

shy osprey
midnight hedge
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oh that's an i

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yeah i'm not smart enough for imaginary calculations

trim sun
south quest
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had another crash trying to give energy to a joker

shy osprey
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probs cuz i haven't fix it

south quest
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Whenever you release the next set of patches, another thing to note is that all elemental packs appear to only give lead and nothing else

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even when the packs show up normally

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which probably is caused perhaps by not having the class but still

shy osprey
south quest
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fair enough yeah, then that's intended

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alright, have a good one

somber crystal
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Just wanted to say, this is probably one of my favorite mods.
Yummy!

shy osprey
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thanks

shy osprey
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sorry for the wait

south quest
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its fine

somber crystal
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@shy osprey Why doesn't the Void Badge work?
I have 98 empty joker slots but I am gaining 0 XP at end of round.

shy osprey
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idk skill issue

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works for me

somber crystal
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Weird

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Also I limited my mods to reduce lag

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Very happy with results

pulsar rivet
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looks cool

somber crystal
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@shy osprey Why isn't the Skill Tree button showing?

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It's not in the Run Info either.

south quest
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certain UI changes will cause this to happen as far as I'm aware, entropic deck from entropy also has this issue

somber crystal
uneven hound
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I wanted to say that I love this mod

shy osprey
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ty

somber crystal
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@shy osprey Here's a thing I made so I could use both Grim and Alloy if you want it.

stark hill
shy osprey
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Yeah it probably shouldn’t

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I’ll try to fix it

cyan quarry
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Got this crash while trying to run Grim and REUnlockAll when starting a run

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Removing REUA doesn't change anything.

cyan quarry
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@shy osprey

shy osprey
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noted, but this may not be fixed for a bit

cyan quarry
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Okay

shy osprey
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also TWOW

cyan quarry
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TWOW?

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Are you talking about my PFP

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Well now I'm getting this crash. I think it's same as last one.

shy osprey
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oh

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darn

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ye i see what i did wrong

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on various levels

cyan quarry
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ok

shy osprey
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k this should actually work

cyan quarry
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What dependencies does Grim have?

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Because I can't find the skills, only one of the additional decks is there, and there was a crash after one round

shy osprey
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Steamodded and Lovely

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also a crash log/screen would help

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also this mod only adds 1 deck

cyan quarry
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Ah

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My bad

shy osprey
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it's fine

cyan quarry
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But I still can't find skills

shy osprey
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did you check the Skill Tree button

cyan quarry
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Where's that

shy osprey
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it should be between the Run Info and Options button

cyan quarry
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Let me check again

shy osprey
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if it's not there, I'd imagine it's a mod conflict of some kind

cyan quarry
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Let me try removing REUnlockAll

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That didn't help

shy osprey
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well i'm using latest steamodded, I suppose try that

cyan quarry
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Ok.

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Didn't work

shy osprey
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well idk then sorry

fathom eagle
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what does hyperspace do

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like how do i activate it

shy osprey
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Hint: it only shows up with using the Explorer class

uneven hound
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@shy osprey oh uh, did you fix the bug that softlocks the game if you use colors? Or try to sell any pokemon cards when you have certain upgrades?

shy osprey
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those sound like things I fixed, so probably

uneven hound
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there seems to also be an error where it doesn't trigger anything from bakery

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or the bakery tags

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yeah it's your mod.

shy osprey
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oh

signal oasis
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is it supposed to look like this

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skill requirement is 200 xp and idk how to unlock it lol

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[I tried to take screenshot of the skill still hovered over but screencap is weird and wont let me]

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any other skills with adequate cost I also can't seem to buy

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also I can sell them for some reason

shy osprey
uneven hound
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um, making sure, when is the patch going to be available?

wispy matrix
signal oasis
wispy matrix
shy osprey
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i'll go see what i can do rn

shy osprey
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idrk what happened with that

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you may have to either diable Grim or Bakery

uneven hound
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fuck

ancient raven
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who implemented the ortalab stuff into grimm?

shy osprey
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The ortalab skills are made by me

ancient raven
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Can it be updated since ortalab likely changed how it packs work with its 1.0 update?

shy osprey
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Sure, that should be doable

vapid otter
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Finally

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I've been waiting for you to said that

shy osprey
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turns out this had nothign to do with Ortalab

shy osprey
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also the Accomplishment Badge has been removed

ancient raven
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More so refering to it's skills since I was getting jimbos outta tarot packs when buying the two ortalab skills

shy osprey
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ah

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Also there are more than two Ortalab skills

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So, which ones?

ancient raven
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The one that effects Lortia packs and zoodiac packs the uuh

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Let me open the game

ancient raven
shy osprey
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k

trim sun
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Hello?

shy osprey
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Hi

fluid coral
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* Greetings.
trim sun
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Is this still worked on?

shy osprey
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not really, if there's a bug I mught fix it tho

spare nimbus
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Damn, ngl, forgot about this mod, but I'm definitely reinstalling it. 👍

cursive drum
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What's the point of Scarce 1? feels like purely a downside, is it meant as that? Also, how is the legendary jokers appearing in the shop implemented? I've seen one ever from it, and I've rerolled a lot thanks to the rerolling skills being busted. I just rerolled down from 13.6k to 500 with an auto reroller mod, and found none of the legendaries, not to mention the tens of thousands of rerolls I've done elsewhere with the legendary joker prestige on.

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also, I wish that how packed cards retriggering held in hand and scored effects was explained. Also how the "packed cards count in scoring" joker works, I'm still not even entirely sure what it does, never seen it do anything. Also is the +1 play size skill meant to allow you to play or discard that 6 size hand, or just do nothing?

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big fan of this mod though, it's really different from how it was last I played it, like, a year ago or so, and it not basically being a gold stake only mod anymore is nice

shy osprey
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i'll have to investigate this stuff, since you may or may not have found some bugs. Scarce I has an upside, it makes it much easier to get consumables and standard packs.

cursive drum
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I'll send my mod list real quick, since that's kinda important to know. And Scarce 1's upside of that would be hugely useful if you could turn it off, but unfortunately you can only do that twice with prestiges, and you kind of have to like where your jokers are at for a few antes to take it like that. Maybe it is some good tech that I just dont have the experience with the mod to do though.

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The first and only legendary I saw was without card sleeves, fusion jokers, and the chariot (auto reroller)

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I'll also farm up like, 100k or so and then auto reroll down from that to see if it was just an issue of not enough rerolls

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Highly doubt it's related to finding a legendary through rerolling because they work through different systems I think, but I did find a Soul card and a Chicot from a tarot pack.

shy osprey
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ty

cursive drum
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rolled down from 100k to 500 looking for each of the 5 legendaries with chariot and found nothing. Could be still not enough, chariot not catching them because you normally can't get them in shops, or a bug/conflict with my mods. Don't have any of the tarot/planet merchant or magic trick vouchers clogging up the shop, and do have overstock+ so I'm seeing 5 cards in each reroll. I'm also in the tunnel area, but I dont remember what that does so I dont know if that's relevant or not.

cursive drum
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well this is an interesting way to learn that if you score that much, you can't beat the blind because you overflowed the float, so the score that would matter is out of the precision range

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wheels giving negative is crazy strong once you get super busted econ going

trim sun
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Boss blinds are supposed to give 100 exp right?

trim sun
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Heads up everyone