Horse Joker (REWORKED)

[cold galleon]

IMPORTANT NOTE: This card suggestion has been reworked. If you hated it before, give it another shot now.

For every card with an edition that is scored, remove the edition. Upon removing an a edition receive $7 if it was foil, $11 if it was holographic, and $15 if it was polychrome.

This would probably be Rare depending on how good it actually is, but the payout can always be tweaked.

Picture for reference of what it could look like:

[somber drift]

Tarot cards cost $3 in shop. If it's a tarot, that enhances 2 cards, that's a $1 payout. In exchange you sacrifice your ability to use enhancements

[stoic escarp]

It's way worse then all econ jokers tbh

[cold galleon]

honestly any problems it has could just be fixed by making it pay out like $6 or something

[stoic escarp]

That's still worse then like golden joker or egg!

[topaz oyster]

Yeah like 5 or 6 would be great, and it'd pair well with Midas mask or something. Money generator go brrrr

[cold galleon]

i’ll change it to 6

[topaz oyster]

👍

[cold galleon]

horse joker bump

[native hamlet]

feels like a vampire clone

vampire is unique and changing that would feel weird

[cold galleon]

i will bump the horse joker again despite fear of getting further noped

[mortal kernel]

As mentioned, this feels too similar to Vampire

My suggestion: instead it strips editions. $10 for foil, $20 for holographic, $50 for polychrome

[cold galleon]

that would actually be pretty interesting

maybe a little busted though because with aura you have a 2/3 chance to match or beat the income of immolate without the risk of losing cards you might need

still cool though i think i’m gonna change it altogether

Horse Joker (REWORKED)

[gentle star]

nah

• it's a niche rare joker that doesn't benefit scoring
• immolate removes cards from your deck as well
• I would lower the poly to 30 though

[cold galleon]

i’m actually gonna hold a poll for that last point because i know you guys probably know balance better than i do

[warped pulsar]

Holy Cow that

is a fuckload of money

No card in the game gives you anything close to $30 per single trigger

It should be like $5 $7 $10 and this is high

[cold galleon]

ok but like how easy is it to get polychrome playing cards in the first place

[warped pulsar]

A spectral pack is like $4 Aura's pretty common

[cold galleon]

you gotta factor in:
chance of spectral pack
chance of pulling aura
chance of having aura give polychrome

and polychrome cards are pretty darn good unless im just tripping or something

[warped pulsar]

Holographic is generally better for cards

Unless you're running certain builds

e.g. anything involving photograph

[cold galleon]

i mean anything with glass steel or retriggers is good

just for crazy mult stacking

i personally think $30 is good for now as just a "mockup price" but i still wanna see what other people say

heck i might have to find a way to mod it in so i can test it

[warped pulsar]

Imagine a 5 polychrome hand

That would give you $150

No Joker of any rarity should be able to give you that much in one hand

[gentle star]

I mean rocket can if you fight 104 boss blinds

[thorn nebula]

who would win:
a rocket who has been working to give you money for 15 antes
or
1 polychrome card

[gentle star]

Horso
Legendary

[cold galleon]

rockets are nowhere near as magical as rainbows /j

[native hamlet]

Reminder that it would remove the edition

[thorn nebula]

the death:

[cold galleon]

gonna point out the poll again

i think its less about the actual values and more the concept

[thorn nebula]

but yeah this isnt horrible in concept it just gives WAY too much money

like the highest i would say for poly is like 15

and thats still high

[cold galleon]

yeah you're probably

right

[warped pulsar]

You voted on your own poll it's over💀

[cold galleon]

man i cant at least put my opinion for my suggestion?

[gentle star]

do nor

Foil gives 8, holo gives 11, poly gives 15

[cold galleon]

i dont hate those numbers

[warped pulsar]

Polls reflect the general public's opinion

This is essentially meddling

And also appears rather desperate in My opinion

[cold galleon]

ok you know what?

you guys good with 8, 11, and 15?

[warped pulsar]

Little uneven

Like, 8 dollars is an unsettling amount

Same with 11

Then again, doing 5, 10 and 15 might be a little unbalanced

[cold galleon]

yeah

i mean like

[warped pulsar]

With there being too great a difference between foils and holographs

[cold galleon]

7 instead of 8 because that would be even across the board then

+4 for each one

[warped pulsar]

Well ok now that the amounts are sane

There's still the issue of the idea itself

The problem being it's unoriginal

This is just money Vampire Joker

[cold galleon]

no, it used to just be money vampire joker

difference being it was enchancements before and they all payed out the same

[warped pulsar]

Ok so it's a completion to vampire, in a way

Yeah that's nice actually

Why's it called horse though

How do horses play into this

[cold galleon]

also to answer the question of it being a horse:
the card says “should you find a defect in this deck, do not use it but return the ace of spades and the defective card”

[gentle star]

wait

[cold galleon]

basically the horse is funny

[gentle star]

i have an idea

[cold galleon]

and the effect is based on the card text

[gentle star]

Horse
Common
if the ace of spades is played, gain 6 dollars and destroy it.
(CONDITIONAL: CAN ONLY BE FOUND IF THE ACE OF SPADES IS STILL IN YOUR DECK.)

[cold galleon]

that would be funny but imagine the money

flush five gives 30 bucks and gets rid of the cards

basically a better immolate

[thorn nebula]

that would just be worse trading card

[native hamlet]

"its too op because [absolute best case scenario]"

the payout is a little weak so $8 would be fine

[cold galleon]

true lol

i probably shouldnt example like thart

[cold galleon]

but my point is with proper deckfixing its really good for a common

[native hamlet]

its pretty good but weaker compared to other things

like mail-in-rebate or sometimes todo list

[cold galleon]

i like how we started talking about a different interpretation of the actual suggestion

its funny

[native hamlet]

yeah

[gentle star]

If played hand contains an ace, destroy it and this joker.
Gain $10.

[cold galleon]

for context, sprite isnt implemented, doesnt work, and might crash the game

but he's real

the horse is almost here

[narrow knoll]

seems a bit wordy

[narrow hatch]

This seems extremely inconsistent. You need to find a card with edition in standard pack or find a aura. Then you need to play the card to earn at best $15 and left with a terrible card in your deck. Not only is it worse than both econ tarot, you can probably earn more just by playing lucky card each round.

[cold galleon]

i think it’s interesting how divided everyone has been on the payout so far

like

some people are like “this isn’t worth it” and when i increase it other people say “this is too much” and i don’t think i’ve gotten a general concrete opinion yet

maybe it’s a sign that this card has no point in existing

[narrow hatch]

I dont see how thats "too much". Imagine the best scenario, you open two standard pack for $10 and you get 2 polychrome. Then, you play them and get $30 with 2 junk card in your deck. That is literally a net profit of $20.

Or maybe you use DNA to dupe one polychrome each round. Then it is +$15 per round at the cost of:

• -1 hand
• not able to use the polychrome to score(or else the cycle stop)
• +1 junk card per round
• 2 joker slots
  The combo could be decent but far from broken.

[thorn nebula]

most of these points become irrelevant if you make the card steel just saying

[narrow hatch]

Even if DNA + this is good doesnt hide the fact that this is bad most of the time.

[cold galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/wetwall-drywall-garfield-eating-gif-26195972

[cold galleon]

bump

[stoic escarp]

No

[cold galleon]

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[stoic escarp]

Sir what does this mean?

[cold galleon]

simple: reef blower