#The Collection

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median sigil
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4X for containing a Full House (so flush houses work too)
Rare, $8
I know that a boss named the House exists, so give me a better name and it might work

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just wanted to give my full house the 'the card it deserves

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i might even say that there should be the cards for all of the hands

polar goblet
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it would have to be 4x

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since full house contains 3oak which is already in trio

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and trio gives 3x

median sigil
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wow my first actual good post

polar goblet
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youre right that full house needs something going for it

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theres really no reason to ever be playing it

median sigil
median sigil
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oush

pale lichen
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To be fair you don't need a FH specific multiplier because it's already covered by the trio

twilit fiber
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but the point is FH sucks and it needs something for itself

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4oak doesn't need a multiplier either because it's already covered by the trio

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the logic falls down

pale lichen
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The problem is that then you also start to argue two pairs too then

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And those jokers cover up just the most basic ways to arrange cards. A straight, a flush, and x many repeats of a card.

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It doesn't cover 5oak because it's also supposed to be a secret hand

twilit fiber
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the fact 'the family' is not for full house is a crime lol

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but two pairs have jokers to help

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4oak's only joker now is the family, i believe

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i don't think it's unreasonable to give full hous the help it needs, possibly with a 4X

urban arch
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Maybe "The Bond" or something similar? Since its 2 ranks coming together

median sigil
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family

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i just think full house deserves a thing or two

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bump

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i need full house to finally get its thing

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infact i need to buff full house

twilit fiber
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ik it has one, it was a counterpoint to the reason why full house DIDN'T need one

median sigil
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oop

twilit fiber
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'full house doesn't need one because 3oak covers it'

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'yeah so 4oak doesn't need one either'

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therefore point 1 is moot

median sigil
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full house needs a little buff

twilit fiber
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def

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i would like to see +3 mult per earth card honestly

polar goblet
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yeah full house is the only non secret hand type with no jokers

twilit fiber
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i think thunk thinks FH is easier than it is

polar goblet
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you think thunk thinks

twilit fiber
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yeah felt weird typing that lol

median sigil
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prob cause paintburhs

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*brush

twilit fiber
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sure, you spam cards, so harder than straight

median sigil
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and pallette

twilit fiber
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however, you need 2 different card types

median sigil
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the main reason rogue hands are good is because of the 'the; cards

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straights or flushes may be out of your mind

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but with the order and tribe they are worth it

polar goblet
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thats not the only reason to play those hands

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straights scale like a mf and have cards like runner

rocky grail
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card design

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median sigil
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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THANK YOU

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pls push

median sigil
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bump

hybrid rover
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its been only an hour

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what even is there to bump

eternal tundra
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tbh it'd be funny if owning the duo and the trio made this card

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like buying both of them will fuse them into this

twilit fiber
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COMBINE

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joker joker

eternal tundra
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YES

twilit fiber
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in most cases that'd be such a troll

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imagine you're playing 4oak and duo and trio form into

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full house (frick you)

eternal tundra
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lmfao

twilit fiber
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more like full of s

eternal tundra
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how the fuck did i not see that

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lmfao

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i thought fusion and screamed

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The Collection:
× 2 or × 3 if hand contains a pair or three of kind (additive)

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(therefore playing a full house would be ×5)

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(while the other effects last too)

tiny kayak
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Full House does need something, I'm not sure if this is it though

tiny kayak
hybrid rover
median sigil
gloomy hinge
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this is just trio but more niche (like family)

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also ortalab reference???

median sigil
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no

gloomy hinge
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:[

median sigil
gloomy hinge
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good enough imo

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maybe just buff earth???

median sigil
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it needs its own joker

gloomy hinge
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does it

median sigil
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yes

gloomy hinge
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5oak and flush five dont have jokers

median sigil
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they're secret hands

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they arent supposed to have jokers

gloomy hinge
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i feels like pants is a full house joker

median sigil
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its a 2 pair joker

gloomy hinge
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in the same way that trio is a 4oak joker

polar goblet
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you would want to score low with pants

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why would you use full house

gloomy hinge
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at somepoint you need to pivot out of the scaling portion right

polar goblet
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when it gets high enough you dont really need to be using full house to scale it though

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full house should have something interesting about it

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its the only non-secret hand with nothing

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maybe not this joker

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but something

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what about something like

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it turns one random card in the pair section into one of the cards in the 3oak section

median sigil
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i might post that as a suggestion

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with your credit

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@polar goblet is that alright

polar goblet
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sure thats fine

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but idk if its very good

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seems like its getting rid of full house opportunities

hybrid rover
gloomy hinge
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

urban arch
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The point is that Full House synergies are usually just-- 2 pair or 3 oak synergies that don't have a very high power level since they are designed with easier poker hands in mind. You can stack those together, but that can lead to you running out of joker slots. Having a direct synergy or two for full house seems reasonable balance-wise and fun for build variety

thin charm
pale lichen
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Full house needs to scale better. That's all it needs. Needs more support from Earth.

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it should scale as fast as a Straight IMO.

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It's a 5 cards hand so it scores better and can get scores from all cards you use, something 4oaK and 3oaK don't do. It already gets support from anything that supports two pairs, 3oaK and pairs, doesn't need more direct support.

polar goblet
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but theres reason to use full houses over 4oak

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even if full house scaled just as well

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4oak is more consistent and has better jokers (rank jokers + family)

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and building for 4oak is almost identical to building for full house except you butcher your hands for no reason

pale lichen
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I know, infact if you look at the Flush counterparts, Flush House scales up faster than 5oaK and even Flush 5

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Which brings back what I'm saying. Full Houses need to scale up better.

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Make Earth scale +3 Mult and +35 chip, then see how you like building your deck.

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Also when debating strength of hands, please keep in mind we need to balance them for the base non-endless game. Endless is fun, and having stuff that helps with endless is great, but it's not the point of the game.

hybrid rover
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saturn is so high value because deck manip for straights is difficult

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full house manip is far easier

pale lichen
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+2 Mult and +25 chips is not worth it when 3oak is +2 Mult and +20 chips

hybrid rover
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yeah i'm not saying that its worth it

pale lichen
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Straights are +3 mult and +30 chip, which is as fast as 4oaK

hybrid rover
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i'm saying that having full house be on par or better than straights or 4oak would be insane

hybrid rover
pale lichen
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4oaK isn't, it's a spicier 3oaK

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which you can argue so is full house

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hence IMO the two should at LEAST scale similar ways

eternal tundra
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btw my phrasing is terrible and yes this is unrealistic

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seeing that four of a kind is ×4

median sigil
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bump?

gloomy hinge
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this would also be unfitting since there are already 10 mult/chip jokers if hand contains x

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you'd need to add 2 more if this was added

unborn carbon
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not necessarily, no

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4oak has an xmult joker but no +chips or +mult

gloomy hinge
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but tbf thats because the other 2 were changed

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and also theres still 5 xmult jokers

storm jewel
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FH is weird. While yes, I agree it needs something specific to it to make it more appealing,it's not like building around FH is hard, since it works with jokers that work with both 2 pair and 3oak

wanton abyss
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Full house doesnt need scoring support, it needs jokers that provide unique benefit. Something like "if played full house this round, gain $10" or "spawn a random tag if you played only full house this round".

pale lichen
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Full House doesn't need more support. It gets support in many places already. It needs to be just more appetible and worth your while to score.

twilit fiber
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...don't we make it more worth our while to score by giving it support...?

wanton abyss
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What other support does full house has? It is literally impossible to increase the scaling of full house, since the planet is already between 3oak(a way easier hand) and straight(a way harder hand). I think full house should have unique jokers so it doesnt have to stand out in term of scoring, as it is hard to make it balance and should be treated as a stepping stone toward flush house.

twilit fiber
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i don't think earth +3 mult is a bad thing but that's just me

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full house you can deckfix for, sure, but same for 4oak and that has +3 mult

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full house, like straight, is one of the few hands you're not just spamming the same rank/suit for

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i also think full house is harder to draw first hand than straight? not sure about how that goes after discards, though

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jokers helping it would also help massively, as betting on the pair or 3oak cards seperately you may as well just gun for the easier hands

median sigil
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WHAT DID I DO?

pale lichen
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Opened the can of worms that is talking about Full House

median sigil
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THIS THING IS POPULAR NOW??????????

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AWESOME

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IT MIGHT BE ADDED

gloomy hinge
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what if earth gave +40 chips and +2 mult

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to make it like a ceres/eris sort of thing with saturn

median sigil
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i cant believe it

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i made a good post

pale lichen
hybrid rover
cloud pilot
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Would it make more sense for the hypothetical rare joker to be a 2-pair trigger instead of explicitly on full house?

left flame
cloud pilot
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Or is this a "double down go crazy" situation

hybrid rover
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thats just wrong

left flame
hybrid rover
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probably just a coincidence considering the different names

left flame
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or local just already knew how they wanted to name the finale blinds (fancy way of saying colour followed by object)
and used the concept but changed the name to fit

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it's possible either way

median sigil
hybrid rover
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why do you think

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because localthunk has better things to do than sift through a bunch of suggestions

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as evidenced by nothing in here being added

median sigil
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so why does the channel exist??????????????

polar goblet
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for fun

uncut bison
eternal tundra
median sigil
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bump.

polar goblet
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you really dont need to be bumping these every day

hybrid rover
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yeah theres really nothing new to say on the topic

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please just stop bumping

median sigil
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i dont know why i keep bumping it

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infact you guys are bumping it

unborn carbon
median sigil
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.pmub