#Traditional Health Mechanics

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icy torrent
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Hey guys, ever wondered why balatro, a roguelike game, doesnt have a hp bar? Well now you dont need to, because of my idea: Health Bars! Let me explain how they would work.

So, Health in balatro is a bit weird, since there are no enemies that directly attack you, but blinds that dont do anything and make you reach a certain score to beat them. When we add health, it would be simple:

  • Small Blind Deals 1 dmg x ante if you lose
  • Big Blind deals 2 dmg x ante if you lose
  • Boss Blind deals 5 dmg x ante if you lose.
  • Ante 8 Bosses deal 10dmg x ante if you lose.

If you lose the blind but you dont die, you continue your run, but you wont earn any blind money or interest or extra joker income.

Health differs based on the deck or challenge, so heres the HP info for each deck.

  • Red, Blue, Yellow, Green, and Black Deck starts with 25 hp.
  • Magic, Nebula, and Ghost Deck start with 20 hp.
  • Abandoned Deck starts with 30 hp.
  • Checkered Deck starts with 20 hp.
  • Zodiac Deck starts with 15 hp.
  • Painted Deck starts with 35 hp.
  • Anaglyph Deck starts with 10 hp.
  • Plasma Deck starts with 15 hp.
  • Erratic Deck starts with 10-40 hp randomly.
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When theres health, theres always healing! In the shop, there will be a heal option, costs 5$ to heal 5 hp. Max is 2 uses per shop. Theres also healing items and jokers, of course. All Food Jokers heal 1 hp when consumed.

Since we need consumables, ive had an idea: Potion packs! They would include potions that give various effects for a certain amount of time, can be instant use, per hand, per round, per ante, or even for the rest of the run!

Potion packs:

  • Standard Potion Pack (5$) includes 2 potion consumables. Choose 1 of them.
  • Jumbo Potion Pack (7$) includes 3 potion consumables. Choose 1 of them.
  • Mega Potion Pack (10$) includes 5 potion consumables. Choose 2 of them.

Potions have different rarities, and higher rarities has higher power effects and how long they last. Theres Common, Uncommon, Rare, and Legendary. (Note that Legendary always lasts for the entire run and can only appear once per run.)

Potions (Common):

  • Small Heal: Heal 5 Hp (Insta)
  • Interest Buff: Gain 1 max interest (1 round)
  • Mult Buff: Gain +10 mult (1 round)
  • Chips Buff: Gain +100 chips (1 round)
  • Cash Drop: Gain 10$ (Insta)
  • Block Buff: Gain +5 Shield (Insta)
  • HP Buff: Gain 1 max hp. (Insta)
  • Luck Buff: Gain +1 Luck (1 round)

(Note: Block is extra hp basically, luck is for stuff like wheel of fortune, from 1 in 5 to 2 in 5. so it adds 1 extra chance.)
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lament condor
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wouldnt this just make the game a shitton easier?

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  • i dont thnk it would fit
onyx turret
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well, I think the idea is like

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it would just entirely change the design space

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so things would be adjusted or changed to "make the game harder" in order to compensate for you not instantly losing if you fail a blind

lament condor
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if you can tank several blinds some or most aspects of the game should be made harder

onyx turret
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this is definitely more of a mod idea than a base game idea

lament condor
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also this just lets you cruise through ante 39

lament condor
onyx turret
lament condor
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oopsies

visual charm
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well hands are literally your health brother

icy torrent
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Potions (Uncommon):

  • Medium Heal: Heal 10 hp (Insta)
  • Mult Buff+ : Gain + 15 mult (2 round)
  • Chips Buff+ : Gain + 150 chips (2 round)
  • Cash Drop+ : Gain 15$ (Insta)
  • Luck Buff+ : Gain +2 luck (2 round)
  • Joker x2 : Select a joker it gains +1 retrigger (1 round)
  • Rockify: Select 3 cards, it becomes stone cards (2 rounds)
  • Wildify: Select 3 cards, it becomes wild cards (2 rounds)
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Let me finish first guys.

visual charm
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should've finished first balatrojoker

onyx turret
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probably hit a discord text limit, big idea

icy torrent
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Potions (Rare):

  • Great Heal: Heals 20 hp (Insta)
  • Mult Buff EX: +20 mult (3 rounds)
  • Chips Buff EX: +200 chips (3 rounds)
  • Cash Influx: Gain an extra 5$ (5 rounds)
  • Lucky Stuff: +2 Luck (Perma)
  • Mult on Mult: Gain 2x mult (3 rounds)
  • Goldify: Turn 3 selected cards into gold cards. (3 rounds)
  • Steelify: Turn 3 selected cards into steel cards. (3 rounds)
  • Value Plus: Gain +1 pack content slot (Perma)
  • Packslot Plus: Gain +1 Pack slot in shop (Perma)

(Note: Permanent potions only appear once per run).

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Potions (Legendary):

  • Party Time: All Jokers have a 1 in 4 chance to retrigger
  • Millionaire: Played cards give 1$
  • Army Sized: Gain 1.5x mult per joker
  • Luckiest Guy: Doubles all luck chances
  • Healthy and Happy: Gain +5 Max hp

(Note: Common and Uncommon Potions can appear multiple times in packs, while Rares and Legendaries only appear once in each pack, if they are in the packs, of course.)

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Im not done here yet

noble gull
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i've never seen a suggestion less likely to be turned down instantly

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thats just not

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this would definitely be a crazy weird mod idea but this just does not work at all for balatro base game

icy torrent
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Since theres now hp, Bosses deal 1 x ante dmg when their abilities are activated. For bosses that dont have active abilities (ones that dont trigger Matador), you will not take any damage, but if you lose you will take double damage from loss damage.

Potion likeliness of appearing:

  • Commons: Almost always appear in packs. Like common jokers
  • Uncommons: less likely, but still appears. Like Uncommon Jokers.
  • Rares: much less likely, but you get atleast one per run. Like rare jokers
  • Legendaries: EXTREMELY RARE, MUCH RARER THAN LEGENDARY JOKERS. (3x rarer than finding legendary jokers through soul)
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Ill also maybe post joker ideas with hp and potion synergy. For now im done typing.

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Any more opinions?

noble gull
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they are hands

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also

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you arent really fighting for your life here

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and not every roguelike game is about fighting

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this would really not work base game

dire saffron
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Hp is absolutely not getting added to balatro

icy torrent
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The HP mechanics are supoosed to make the early game easier by letting you lose if youre not good enough, but much harder on you if you lose later.

noble gull
dire saffron
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This would make the game much easier

noble gull
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the game is already balanced as is

dire saffron
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Agreed

icy torrent
noble gull
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not really

dire saffron
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Good for a mod but a lot for the base game

icy torrent
onyx turret
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yeah we're just telling you that he's not gonna add your ideas, hence why they would potentially work for a big overhaul mod

icy torrent
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Are the potions atleast a cool idea? Excluding the HP related ones, of courses.

lament condor
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for potions, id say remove leggies and turn them into rares, but rebalance them

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also change potion pack formats to one of the pre existing ones

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(1-3,1-5,2-5/1-2,1-4,2-4)

pure moss
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This is completely against the spirit of the game and its core mechanics

flat portal
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This solves a problem that doesn't exist imo

late prawn
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this is just a different game

rocky shale
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Black deck is not stronger than plasma. Painted is not the worst deck in the game

icy torrent
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The point of black deck having more hp than plasma deck is because plasma deck is better so it would be more balanced. I made painted deck have a lot of hp because it gives -1 joker slot, so to compensate i gave it extra hp, more than others

shell olive
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Wow

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This sounds like a fun concept for a different game

mossy mica
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Hi guys, here's my suggestion for Balatro: let's change it to a completely different roguelike cuz how dare a game in the genre try to be different

thorn fox
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razy necroposting

icy torrent
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This is an old post bro why is it on again

spice jasper
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I literally cant tell if this was a shit suggestion or some S tier trolling

chrome cosmos
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if its back im gonna say one thing. this game works well with a you lose you die life system

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mr bones is well designed because youre using a joker slot gor one extra shot

icy torrent
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Traditional Health Mechanics

spice jasper
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wha

thorn fox
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necro post ?