Dimserene's Modpacks Manager v1.13.2

[zenith apex]

I did the git command download now what

The git command actually didn’t download shit

[fair pilot]

imagine with the exponential level up joker

computer still restarting so im on my main now

ancient ass computer takes like 3 mins to boot

[zenith apex]

@silver oriole I have the mod pack

Where do I put the mods again

[silver oriole]

This

[zenith apex]

Copy the folder right

I do not see that area

[mellow quail]

Well, I can break the loop by selling it currently, so its just a question of "how long do I let it go?" It definitely is getting laggier and laggier the longer this runs...

Maybe just come back tomorrow or something

[sick cedar]

IT WORKED

IT IS DELETED

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

FUCK YEAAAAAA

[mellow quail]

[zenith apex]

App data does not exist for me

[sick cedar]

try %appdata%

just going directly there

[silver oriole]

Then download and install again

[sick cedar]

ITS THE MOST RECENT VERSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!💞

[zenith apex]

Something is very wrong

[sick cedar]

thx so much :3

[zenith apex]

4 pages of mods on full edition and none of them add anything

[sick cedar]

time to go back to breaking the game

[zenith apex]

Dim what did I fuck yo

Up

Mods are in roaming

Everything etc

Do I need to add the dim mod pack main file to the balatro folder

[jolly shadow]

Put those mod stuff into balatro->mods

I assume you did not put them on roaming?

[zenith apex]

Hold on

Fixed

I did a good

Goof*

[silver oriole]

@sick cedar I should and would recommend you install powertoys for this kind of bullshit

[zenith apex]

Yeah so bunco’s mor

Mod

If the high quality shaders are on and you turn them off and restart it crashes every time you open balatro

I had to look for the mod

But there’s that

So deactivating mods also makes it crash

Permanently

[sick cedar]

im curious how many mods is it now?

[silver oriole]

That is so weird

[sick cedar]

it was 71 when it was made but it seems to be more now

[silver oriole]

Well, if you somehow crashed and see crash screen, there are loaded modlist

[zenith apex]

What’s weird

[silver oriole]

That is the number of mods that are loaded by the game

[zenith apex]

Any ideas why my game crashed by deactivating mods

Also same error as last time

Seems the joker display mod might be the problem

[silver oriole]

You can remove that mod and see if that helped

[zenith apex]

Let’s see

Yep

Joker display mod is fucked

Removing it fixed it

[silver oriole]

Remove that for now then

[zenith apex]

Yeah that’s something you’ll have to figure out

But that means that high quality shaders didn’t cause the crash

[silver oriole]

I am not with my laptop

[zenith apex]

You don’t have to fix it now man

[silver oriole]

So ╮(╯_╰)╭

[zenith apex]

What is that

[sick cedar]

20x4-1 based on the pages in mods menu so its 79 now

[zenith apex]

And game crashed on end round

What does this mean

[sick cedar]

copy the error

[silver oriole]

No, there are lovely mods that does not appear on that list

[sick cedar]

also how do u turn on high contrast cards on the most recent update?

[silver oriole]

I have no clue on that

[zenith apex]

Guess I can’t play because god hates me

[sick cedar]

the performance is sooooooo much better holy

[dense hedge]

Bug report for the Fine-Tuned Pack - Game crashes on Cash Out. Error Log Attached.

[silver oriole]

Is that consistently happening ?

didn't happen for me

[dense hedge]

Consistently for me - might be a specific seed thing?

Let me double check something.

YLSL15ED - the seed. It happens on beating the Ante 2 boss blind, specifically.

[silver oriole]

Ok that ante 2 boss is crashing for me too

[dense hedge]

I've experienced a few other crashes on cash-out, but I don't have the seeds handy for those. Let me know if any other details from my end will help, and good luck on the bug-hunt!

[silver oriole]

Hmm

Even crashed in full pack

Anybody else got this crash

[silver oriole]

Interestingly, overrides.lua don't have line 1319

[vagrant musk]

I haven't updated the pack in a while. Do I need to get the modpack manager to do that? Or will it be installed by the setup thing I've been using?

[jolly shadow]

Use modpack manager if it works

It certainly make mod install much easier

[wild imp]

you have to look at the version in the lovely dump

[urban wharf]

I think this crash is a steamodded bug but without having actual accurate line numbers I can’t be 100%

[silver oriole]

That file is not in dump

[silver oriole]

How, if the line is strangely not present

[urban wharf]

I don’t know why it’s the wrong number but I think I know the line it’s referring to

Although I also think this is bunco using the function incorrectly too

[wild imp]

my bad

[silver oriole]

Should I try to global search 'get_deck_win_stake' and see what is calling this

Bunco or galdur

[opal trout]

Do I need to fix something? 👀

[urban wharf]

What’s the get_deck_win_stake call for?

[opal trout]

In Bunco? It checks if you ever beat the Orange Stake
I think I reported a bug with it that function earlier where it would crash on old profiles

[silver oriole]

Oh gawd

@opal trout If i remove bunco the whole pack won't even boot

[opal trout]

Wow

[urban wharf]

So you have a blind that’s only available if you’ve EVER beat orange stake on any deck?

[silver oriole]

Fascinating

[opal trout]

yup

[urban wharf]

Do blinds not have unlock conditions?

[opal trout]

it just so it won't spoil the sticker mechanic beforehand

I don't think blinds can be locked

[urban wharf]

Hmmm

I do believe that the fix that is pending will solve this crash but this doesn’t seem like the best way to enable the blind

What does the blind do?

[urban wharf]

Oh neat

[urban wharf]

🎉 I can reproduce the error

[vagrant musk]

Recruiter can't rercuit. Discarding on the Combat Ace Conquest deck did this.

Started a new run on the same deck since trying to continue crashes. Selling the Recruiter got rid of the crash, so it's definitely Recruiter.

[silver oriole]

And bunco seems to be it

[urban wharf]

Yeah but it's a steamodded cause

[silver oriole]

Themed Jokers might have some bugs similar to this along the line

[silver oriole]

Do we have a fix for this? Or else we can only remove bunco for now

[urban wharf]

force win a game on red deck

or wait for steamodded update

[silver oriole]

What

[urban wharf]

if you start a run on red deck and use debugplus to win you will never experience this crash

it ONLY happens if you have ONLY lost games on the first deck in the list you have used

[silver oriole]

That is so strange

[urban wharf]

I think

[silver oriole]

Can you try this out?

[silver oriole]

This combination is so funny

Sadly the run is bricked by ante 3 bug

[wise sparrow]

Pushed a fix to my TWEWJ PR to fix this

[silver oriole]

But parchment is still missing

[wise sparrow]

sad

[silver oriole]

I swear it was not a bug yesterday

For now all I can advise is remove bunco

[urban wharf]

you can just comment out the blind that causes it too

[silver oriole]

This?

Oh didn't mean to ping sorry

[urban wharf]

yeah that one

[silver oriole]

Let me try it out

[silver oriole]

Didn't win but at least it works

Now make a temporary fix for this...

I forked bunco with temporary comment

Should be good now

[sly ledge]

i love the idea of the modpack but man it crashes so much

[quiet knot]

bug resolved in last updates 🤷

[silver oriole]

That is fixed right here

[silver oriole]

That is why I marked this "Entertainment purposes not recommended"

[quiet knot]

for the modpack to be stable, wait like 6 month

[silver oriole]

yeah since smods is still alpha

[fluid fog]

I've got an issue with crashing upon reloading a game in progress. Happens even when just exiting to the main menu. 100% crash rate. Even crashes when I exit a brand new game with no actions taken. I have done a clean install of the fine-tuned pack, removed some troublesome mods after scanning the discord (JokerDisplay, Bunco, The-World-Ends-With-Jimbo was giving me guff too, same with themed jokers) and I am still unable to figure out the problem. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

[urban wharf]

Can we have the full crash screen?

[silver oriole]

Something like this right

[dense wharf]

Oh wait a minute lemme try something

[silver oriole]

?

[dense wharf]

Spotted something incorrect

Maybe that’s what’s causing crashes

Gonna see

Ok yeah I think I fixed it

Classic me copypasting the wrong thing and not paying attention

fixed this in a pr that hasn't been merged yet but until then go to Cryptid/Lovely/ResizedJokers and delete that file and replace it with this one

[silver oriole]

Oh god lovely patches doing the work

I have a cryptid fork I can do that fix first

[dense wharf]

Yeah it’s just replacing one file

Well one line really

[sonic harbor]

Based jevonn

[brittle spade]

I would merge that PR but I haven’t tested and I already know I want to change something

[silver oriole]

It fixed the crash

So I'll say it's working

[brittle spade]

Wait never mind

I just forgot that the ID of a certain joker makes zero sense

Because its ID is the name of a different joker

[fluid fog]

Pardon my ignorance, but I do not know how to send off the full crash screen without taking a dozen screenshots. Is there a text dump somewhere I can use instead? I haven't tried the fix yet but I will slog through the full screen once I am done my chore here in case it offers some clues.

[silver oriole]

Mods/lovely/log

[fluid fog]

Thanks

[silver oriole]

Also you should send your card.lua in lovely/dump

You said you are on Fine-tuned right?

@fluid fog

[hoary flower]

Is there like, something I need to do?

[silver oriole]

Trying to Update?

[hoary flower]

yea

got it to work with deleting the files and manually but now i've got a new issue ;-;

if i start the game from the manager, it launches with nothing modded

if i start it myself via steam or exe, it crashes with this

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/UI_definitions.lua:1093: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 1068) near '{'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1f-FULL
Modded Version: ???
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.5.0-beta6

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x0d37ba38'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 958
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x0d37a5c0 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x0d37a330 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

oh correction

both now crash

i've got an idea

one moment

i am so confused

i have lovely installed

[urban wharf]

Are you sure?

[hoary flower]

but it's not showing

[urban wharf]

Can you send your balatro install folder?

[urban wharf]

And your mods folder?

With the path too

[hoary flower]

red ink is just my name

[urban wharf]

Hmmm

[silver oriole]

That is very strange

Modded Version: ???

Can you check if the Steamodded folder is in there

[echo oar]

that's normal for syntax error crashes

[hoary flower]

The lovely folder is, no steamodded

[silver oriole]

Oh

[echo oar]

nah that very much is steamodded's crash handler

it's just that the crash handler is injected early enough to be active, but steamodded itself isn't

[silver oriole]

So something is wrong with diamond's Steamodded ?

[hoary flower]

If it helps to know, I’m using specifically the lovely injector. Not sure how much that matters if at all

[echo oar]

we know, there's nothing else you could or should be using

you should update everything just in case, I think I remember there being a specific version of something that caused that crash

[silver oriole]

@hoary flower can you take a look at Steamodded folder

[fluid fog]

Sorry, in the middle of gardening.

[silver oriole]

@fluid fog you sure you are using fine-tuned pack

[fluid fog]

And yes, was on full pack but dialed it back to fine-tuned as the fullpack update was a little too unstable. Figured the fine-tune would fix some of that.

To re-install I wiped the mod folder, created a new one and ran setup

Though at some point I was trying to get mod manager to work... maybe that's causing some issue?

[silver oriole]

Then you didn't fully do a clean install because that line is cryptid's patch

Which belongs to full

[fluid fog]

I'll try again. More thorough this time.

[silver oriole]

The way my manager install any pack is to wipe Mods folder completely then install...so it "shouldn't" be an issue🫠

[fluid fog]

I suspect I made a mistake trying to fix this at 3am, probably last ditch troubleshooting with no brain juice left. I've got a clean install going.

[fluid fog]

And we are stable. Thanks for the help.

[silver oriole]

That looks utterly normal

Can you click "uninstall" in manager and then "install" again

[hoary flower]

sure

[silver oriole]

Wait

Where did you put your manager

[hoary flower]

its just in my downloads

[silver oriole]

Manually delete the whole Mods folder

Does windows let you?

[hoary flower]

yep

[silver oriole]

Click install again

[hoary flower]

is this alright?

[silver oriole]

Refresh?

[hoary flower]

nothin

mods are in the folder

[silver oriole]

Is the game modded now

[hoary flower]

uhhh

yes it is modded

but

i think it's installing from an old version

[silver oriole]

Ok...before manager how did you install my pack, with setup.bat right

Or git cli

[hoary flower]

setup.bat first time, then i did git cli for an update (cause update.bat wasn't working)

[silver oriole]

And you did remove the old modpack folder before you download from manager?

[hoary flower]

the old mods folder or this one?

[silver oriole]

Wait why are my modpack folder nested 😭

[hoary flower]

should i del that?

[silver oriole]

That should not be in there

[hoary flower]

got it

so now do i download+install?

in manager?

[silver oriole]

Install

Wait no

Remove this folder

[silver oriole]

Everything

[hoary flower]

aight

[silver oriole]

Somehow it cloned inside the old version? I Don't get it

That is such a weird behav

[silver oriole]

After that you do download + install

[hoary flower]

aight welp

heyyy it worked

[silver oriole]

Finally spotted the issue

Lol

[hoary flower]

THATS A NEW ONE LMAO

[silver oriole]

Bruh

What happened before that

[hoary flower]

Resuming a game

After a crash from joker display

[silver oriole]

Yeah maybe remove jd and try again?

[hoary flower]

yea i did

and it did that

[silver oriole]

Don't resume

[hoary flower]

yea lol

im just makin a new run

[zenith apex]

I kinda gave up on getting it to work

I’m lazy and tired

[jolly shadow]

@silver oriole remember when i reported that mod didn't ran with modpack manager?

i think diamonddevice had a similar problem

maybe worth adding it into known problem list

[silver oriole]

Yeah, but i don't know if diamond still has the issue after those fixes

And I am currently doing another update testing

[jolly shadow]

i see

might be better to put off for later then

[silver oriole]

I mean I am trying to fix that too

But I don't see what might be the problem

I will try harder

[jolly shadow]

i think its something with mod injection not working with game when it is ran with thirdparty program, but once it gets through it'll work alright

[silver oriole]

It's never a problem on my end so I am not sure

[jolly shadow]

in my case mod didn't work with modpack manager til i do reinstall and refresh, but running through steam applied the mod injection alright

yeah

i think its pretty rare case atm

[silver oriole]

Also, it's problem focusing again, while issues get reported all the time, we don't know how many ppl actually never encountered any problem

[mellow quail]

Survivor bias. Part of why I made a point to mention the manager working fine for me when I tried it

[silver oriole]

Thanks for your feedback.

[mellow quail]

I work online tech support for my job, and so I likely have an unrealistic impression of how terrible the software is, and try and keep that in mind. People who have the thing work fine rarely come to get help with it, after all

[silver oriole]

That's why customer surveys exist

[mellow quail]

[silver oriole]

Like this

[mellow quail]

Yup! I responded to that one when I saw it

[jolly shadow]

Hmm

Oh well, we do need more case of this to make sense

I'm gonna do the run after resting

[mellow quail]

Alright, I had been getting this crash a few times last night, but then it stopped for a bit today. It is once again back - mousing over a negative Jackpot joker, from Vanilla Expansion, is causing this. Due to the fact it worked for a bit, my best guess at the moment is whether it crashes or not is dependant upon what card it has chosen? I have some stone cards in the deck, perhaps it is selecting those and there not being a suit confuses it? When I have gotten the hover text without crashing, all the times I recall it was selecting the 7's of clubs that are most of my deck's cards.

Darn. One too many lucky card triggers

I should use the wraith I just got, right?

[silver oriole]

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/0.5.0

Let me get this puppy out there first

[silver oriole]

What does jackpot joker do?

[mellow quail]

Here it is in the collection

Hmm, maybe its not based on selected card? I have a cryptid card currently and have just tried playing a three of a kind of 3 threes, 3 sevens, and 3 eights, separately, all clubs, and the 7 three of a kind crashed the game as soon as one tried scoring, while the other ones started scoring fine. So if that's due to the Jackpot still, it seems to be landing on 7's of clubs, which is also the only card I've seen it land on when I can mouse over it without a crash.

Orrr not, that time three 7's of clubs didn't crash when played...

[silver oriole]

smh crash slot machine

[mellow quail]

Alright, playing the hand again at 0.25x speed, Jackpot definitely isn't triggering on the 7's of clubs, so it has a different card selected. Not sure why it crashed on the first attempt at the three of a kind for them

I've played most of the cards in the deck, though, so can't check the others to see what one it has selected currently

[royal ferry]

it shouldnt be picking any stone cards or anything like that

im no longer working on that mod in particular but ive sorted implemented the jokers into a mod im working on atm

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1271664767345623173

so my recommendation would be delete that mod

and if you wanna use the jokers you can download my new one onces its out

im tryna get a release done for tonight

[wild imp]

Well it completely obsolete Vanillia expansion? Ie have all the jokers?

[royal ferry]

did rework jackpot a bit tho because it was just kinda niche

yep

[silver oriole]

Cool. Good know👍

[wild imp]

What does the old jackpot do again?

[royal ferry]

old jackpot is basically play a flush 3 and get a bunch of mult lol

[wild imp]

Agreed. At first I was worried when you weren't gonna be working on it, but instead you basically added it to a proper full content pack. No complaints

[silver oriole]

Here

[wild imp]

Oh yeah that kinda blew. The new one sounds a lot better

Especially because I like my Luckies

[royal ferry]

lucky cards are the best enhancement ofc i gotta do smth for them

okay i gotta get back to work lol

new lucky (kinda) enhancement coming tho 👀

[silver oriole]

Conclusion : don't bother using the Joker lol

[royal ferry]

yeah sorry lol

[silver oriole]

I will remove said mod

[royal ferry]

thanks

im surprised it was even still being used tbh

[wild imp]

The professor is kinda goated ngl

[royal ferry]

love professor

aces need an actual retrigger joker

also calling the clock got a small buff

[wild imp]

Shame those type of jokers don't synergize with the builds I play

[mellow quail]

Not a bad payout. Fine tuned pack can go pretty wild in and of itself.

[wild imp]

I've stubbornly resisted the high card brain rot :p

[royal ferry]

how so?

ah

well its kinda good for inbetween high card and flush five i guess

you want cards in hand and to be played

[wild imp]

Yeah and it's nothing against the joker, it's just my personal playstyle

[royal ferry]

wait i just realised that says 1.2k wtf

[mellow quail]

Several of the mods in the Full pack really like high card builds. The Thumb ability from Betmma's abilities? Absolutely nuts for them.

[mellow quail]

[wild imp]

Flush and flush 5 fiend that I am

[royal ferry]

i kinda prefer flush 5 over high card just because you can take ectoplasms and get more jokers

more jokers more gooder

i dont actually play a lot of modded balatro myself lol

[wild imp]

Lol, fair. I have over 300 hours in game at least half of it modded

[wild imp]

I gave up on actual game progression when I started getting into mods

[mellow quail]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[royal ferry]

whats w the kawaii joker

[royal ferry]

i wanted to get at least completionist+ before mods

i played around w some before i did that but never played around with them that much

[mellow quail]

Gains 2 mult per common joker you have at the end of round. She adds no actual value to my scoring, really, but she's cute and so she's the mascot at the end. The art is actually really amazing on that one, I kinda can't get over it.

[wild imp]

I only have gold stake on a couple decks and like 2 total gold stake wins and now I just chill out in white stake with mods sandbox style

[royal ferry]

team mascot lol, the art is awesome

[royal ferry]

thats a good way to play imo

i havent played much gold stake after getting c++

i just have fun

just had an idea for a cool joker im gonna add

some kinda cute joker

gives x mult or smth when its in the last slot

[mellow quail]

I've looked at the higher stakes and... most of them sound like killing half of what I find fun in the game so I just don't bother.

[wild imp]

A raccoon

[royal ferry]

the challenge can be fun, and the sense of accomplishment is great, but its such a hassle

[mellow quail]

I think I have a new goal for this run. I need to find out if I can go further back in time after Ante -1, and if so, I want to see what happens if I beat Ante -8

[royal ferry]

raccoon joker, goes rummaging through a bin before each round and has a chance to find a random consumable

[wild imp]

Hehe

[royal ferry]

you win?, but maybe backwards

enter the backrooms

[mellow quail]

https://tenor.com/view/froze-stop-moving-not-moving-still-standing-gif-16669739

[wild imp]

Actually gotta go feed the ones that stuck around my house right about now, lol

They fight with the cats too much if they don't get their own food

[royal ferry]

sadly i dont think ill ever see one in real life

they seem chill asf

[wild imp]

They're a lot like big goofy cats. Violent and cute side both

[royal ferry]

a got a cat so i can imagine hes a raccoon or smth lol

[brittle spade]

@silver oriole the issue with cryptid boss blinds should be fixed now

[silver oriole]

Thanks for the heads up

[mellow quail]

Oh dear there are so many cards in the shop. I don't even have any levels of Overstock yet!

[royal ferry]

what on earth

[mellow quail]

I've got a bunch of these

[royal ferry]

ah

oh yeah you got money for those when you somehow earnt 1.2k

[mellow quail]

That somehow was mainly three of these

Lots of jokers is... not what this game is balanced around, in any capacity.

[royal ferry]

yep thatll do it lol

[mellow quail]

I've also got this helpful joker, which is kind of really silly when I have this much money every round

I've found out that if that gets debuffed, I instantly die! I've used too many ectoplasms and its the only thing keeping me afloat.

[royal ferry]

is it +2 for every reroll?

[mellow quail]

yuuuup

[royal ferry]

i can imagine you just immediately losing randomly lol

thats a little bit strong

[mellow quail]

It happened, actually! Ran into this one when opening a bonus blind. Literally thought the words "I literally can't lose this" just before and then just instantly died and it was kind of amazing. I've been backing the run up a lot since I do tend to find crashes often, so could save scum a bit after.

[royal ferry]

lol

[silver oriole]

Removed from all:
Vanilla Expansion

[jolly shadow]

ah

damn

[silver oriole]

(70 mods) Dimserene's Modpacks (SMODS 1.0.0)

[royal ferry]

:(

[mellow quail]

Ooh, a third Aqua Pawn! Super strong for a common as well. Especially considering high card is currently level 2,510

[royal ferry]

level what

[mellow quail]

2,510

[jolly shadow]

it happened again

i uninstalled mod since i couldn't update

[silver oriole]

[royal ferry]

level 2500 high card 😭

[jolly shadow]

so i did reinstall then used manager to start, mods got disabled

[royal ferry]

what is going on w mods bruh

[silver oriole]

Did you use newest build?

[jolly shadow]

yeah

0.5.0

[mellow quail]

Yeah, I let this run for a few hours before selling the thing

[silver oriole]

Delete Dimserenes-Modpack folder in the same place as manager and download again

[jolly shadow]

ok

[royal ferry]

💀

why can it trigger itself theres such an obvious thing that can go wrong

[mellow quail]

Apparently it normally can't, there's just some weird mod interaction with either the pack, or just specifically the AAAAH?! It's Infinity?! joker from Snow's mods that makes it so it will

[wild imp]

Firch says it isn't supposed to and it's a big caused by another mod

[mellow quail]

Oh, hey, yeah that was you in that other thread

[royal ferry]

ah right

[wild imp]

Infinity joker is so based though, definitely a valid trade off, lol

[mellow quail]

Oh for sure, my lucky cards are so stronk lol

[wild imp]

But yeah there's something fucky

[jolly shadow]

@silver oriole its still disabled

[mellow quail]

I have the lucky deck, and one of the first jokers I got was that Infinity die and, like... yes please

[jolly shadow]

i downloaded, install and check

[wild imp]

20 bucks per lucky card per trigger, plus all that mult

[royal ferry]

wait what does that joker do?

[silver oriole]

But it's normal through steam?

[royal ferry]

i got a joker that retriggers any chance cards

jokers and playing cards included

am i unoriginal?

[wild imp]

It guarantees all probabilities

[royal ferry]

ah okay

thats fine then

[wild imp]

But there is a horseshoe joker gun another mod

[mellow quail]

Plus stacking red seals! I've got a fluorescent lucky 7 with 96 read seals on it

[jolly shadow]

yeah, steam does work

[wild imp]

That retriggers luckies

[royal ferry]

damn

[wild imp]

But duplicate jokers are a good thing for the joker pool

[mellow quail]

And with me drawing my whole deck every round, that was the source of the "I literally can't lose this!" thought earlier.

[wild imp]

So dw

[mellow quail]

I need to do some tests to see if the bug I found with stacking red seals works on its default settings, or only on the changed ones I have

[silver oriole]

That is so strange

[wild imp]

Like both Ortalab and Mika's have an identically acting Dawn

[cyan helm]

Ok, so I tried the latest build, and it lets me change the mods directory and the balatro directory, but it still launches Balatro.exe instead of Balatro - Modded.exe. They are both in the same Balatro directory. If there's some way you can take the name of the Mods directory (in my case Balatro - Modded/Mods) and put the first part of it as the exe name, that should work

[royal ferry]

lol

[silver oriole]

Maybe you can rename it into Balatro - Vanilla instead

[mellow quail]

But if things don't get debuffed, I've got this wonder that will happily get me up to e180 or so right now

[wild imp]

Which is good when you have 750+ jokers for it to get lost in

[wild imp]

Avoid buying stow area. It seems to break infinity and make all probabilities permeability 0 even if you sell infinity of it gets debuffed like that

[cyan helm]

I could, but all the save data I have is on the main Balatro exe and I was hoping to have this modpack as a secondary modlist rather than primary. But it's not a big deal, I can probably get it working for me (since it seems I'm the only one doing this lol)

[wild imp]

Though that's not 100% sure the cause

[mellow quail]

Oh, was that what was doing it on one of my last runs in the Full pack? Fortunately any cards I cared about there had been hit with that code card that guarantees probabilities anyways

[silver oriole]

At least I don't think anyone else reported this

There's also coockie that asked to remember preferences

[jolly shadow]

i think i figured the solution out

seems like restarting modpack manager after install and using play fixes the mod not getting recognized with modpack manager

[mellow quail]

That run died when I got a bit too excited with my infinite code card generator, and doubled the values on the joker that triggers the leftmost joker twice until it was instead doing it a million times for the next round. Just for lols, I then threw the exotic that makes a negative copy of a random joker on shop exit on the left. Surprisingly, the game managed to start doing the animation! It finally crashed once around 1200 jokers were in though.

So much for my (mostly non-existant) dreams of a million jokers...

[silver oriole]

Huh

I can probably add a popup to warn user restart the manager

[jolly shadow]

that might be a good idea

[silver oriole]

Or simply force the manager to reboot after install

[royal ferry]

one day we'll have the technology

[mellow quail]

This game would need a lot more optimizations to handle that. Maybe if Wube was doing it it could get there.

[cyan helm]

Let's just rewrite it in C++ real quick

[mellow quail]

Oooh, a fourth Red Envelope!

[wild imp]

Let's rewrite it in python and make it worse

(I have no idea of python is actually less efficient in Lua, but being interpreted while Lua is (somehow?) technically compiled I'd assume so)

[mellow quail]

Aaaand a fifth Red Envelope the reroll right after!

[silver oriole]

Wow your Chinese new year is on a roll

[mellow quail]

Each one is giving me $408 on beating a boss blind right now

Ah, wait, $416 now

[royal ferry]

share some money w the rest of us

[mellow quail]

I would if I could but I am not able

[royal ferry]

:(

[silver oriole]

😦

[wild imp]

Balatro: Communism when?

[mellow quail]

I've got $91k atm. I also have Chaos, though, so I'll have nothing left once I leave the shop, one way or another

[wild imp]

(No politics intended)

[mellow quail]

Coop Balatro? Shared money... separate decks? Do you alternate hands, or play them at the same time? Hmmmmmm

[royal ferry]

you each select one card

[silver oriole]

So take turns to do one move?

[mellow quail]

[royal ferry]

yeah if you wanna discard you take turns selecting cards too

[mellow quail]

Oh, not just need 4 friends to be able to play a 5 card hand?

[silver oriole]

That sounds horrendous

[royal ferry]

game would be unplayable

literally

[mellow quail]

Playing co-op by yourself? Only high card.

But if you get 5 friends? Then you get the special 6 card hands!

[royal ferry]

well if you wanna play 6 card hands just wait for ceres release

[silver oriole]

It's soon to be released?

[royal ferry]

well im tryna get a pre release ish version out tonight

because im going away for a week

[mellow quail]

Maybe I should stop buying these jokers that add more shop slots, its getting a bit out of hand

[silver oriole]

They should be overlapping or paged after exceeding certain amount tbh

[mellow quail]

Surprised it hasn't crashed from this many slots yet. I thought I got a crash due to it when buying a thunder pawn earlier but maybe it was for a different reason

[mellow quail]

Please, pleasepleaseplease give me this for my jokers

I sometimes need to break out the controller just to page through them one by one

[cedar cosmos]

Cryptid patches the shop to not do that

but well Cryptid

[mellow quail]

I'd also love it if hand size would be "Capped" at deck size, since as it is, with very large hand sizes, all your cards will get squished together in the middle as if they are preparing for a full hand of cards that will never come, and can be super annoying to try and get specific ones

[silver oriole]

Yeah I swear I have saw them overlapped somewhere

Wait, maybe I can disable everything except the shop overhaul thing

Hmm

[cedar cosmos]

not a terrible idea

[mellow quail]

Maybe I'll roll down as far as I can to demonstrate the hand size thing more clearly

[silver oriole]

I think I have saw this somewhere

[mellow quail]

Ah, that shop expansion crashed it!

[silver oriole]

_Cough cough cryptid _

[mellow quail]

Well, yeah, but I swapped to the Fine tuned pack because I was getting a bit tired of my runs exploding once I finally started getting to the really fun stuff

[silver oriole]

I don't really get to that point so I don't know

[mellow quail]

Fine tuned has been noticeably more stable, at least

Oooh, another Red Envelope! they just keep coming!

If only I could find this many blueprints... still feels a little ridiculous I've only found one

A thunder pawn! That shop expansion didn't crash. Hmm.

Nor did that Thunder pawn either. 11 cards in shop now, goes off both ends of the screen... Maybe I should get Cryptid anyways? Hmmmmmmmm

[silver oriole]

Maybe that function should be it's own mod

[mellow quail]

I need a joker manager much more than I need the shop to behave better, though

I have the money and the joker slots that I can just buy and sell a few things from one end to slide the other end back on screen

[silver oriole]

Such innovative

[mellow quail]

Oh, no, we're at the joker count where the left side of the shop starts slapping new jokers a few deep into the stack

[wild imp]

I still like the idea of quarter sized cards stacked 2 high in order to help mitigate joker area and i guess shop crowding

Though the shop jokers should also just half stack like the owned jokers, shop vouchers, and shop packs do

[sly ledge]

soooo got this crash here

it was right after winning a "only play 1 hand -1 discard" blind when selecting the cash out option

[mellow quail]

Hmm. Expanding the shop further definitely has a hazard I didn't consider - we might lose the Next Round and Reroll buttons

Oh. Blank Spectral cards can reroll into The Soul. I have a Soul card in my consumable slots... and Perkeo...

Ok, that was three Aqua pawns back to back... That's like $7500 extra a round right there...

And make that a fourth one... This is so much money, game, but I just want a blueprint! Please?

[silver oriole]

Full error code would help

It's in Mods/lovely/log

[jolly phoenix]

and this is why cryptid makes it so that the shop doesn't expand widthwise beyond four slots

[silver oriole]

Reinstall should fix this

Update I mean

[sly ledge]

just did :/

[silver oriole]

Really

Remove bunco

[sly ledge]

worked lol

[silver oriole]

👍

[mellow quail]

Something about this Evolution card feels... off. Pretty sure I also recall getting a Soul card from a blank rerolling, not an Evolution...

[silver oriole]

Did it give you a legendary

[mellow quail]

Nah, looked to just work like an Evolution. Didn't crash like I thought it might have

[silver oriole]

Customer survey☝️

[mellow quail]

For the record, this is the second time I've seen a spectral card from a blank spectral seem to become something other than what it first landed on - both times, I only noticed the changed card after reloading the save. The other one would crash the game when being selected, and so was basically just a dead consumable slot. This one, at least, I could use and sell.

I think the first time it looked like it landed on a... Cleanse? Whatever the one that makes some cards in hand fluorescent is. It crashed on trying to use it for that purpose, and when I came back, it was a Sacrifice instead, if I recall correctly.

I think I was trying to use the cleanse on some of the weird cards-turned-consumables from the Cryptid Hammerspace spectral. I've tried looking through my logs, and I do have a few crashes, but I don't remember which ones were for this, nor is that save around anymore

[cedar cosmos]

modifying ccd'd cards is known to be buggy

[royal ferry]

consumable card deck

is that what it stands for?

[cedar cosmos]

consumable card in deck i believe

[royal ferry]

damn almost

[silver oriole]

@mellow quail did those fake the soul all come from blank?

[mellow quail]

I've only had one "fake" soul, and that one was from a blank. It seemed to wind up as something else when the save was reloaded, but kept the animated crystal from the soul card it once thought it was

[wild imp]

why do I feel like Thunk used clunked together Legendary code for the soul;s stone?

[wild imp]

oh right because it's something I'd do too

[silver oriole]

What does that mean

[wild imp]

I guess just that it sometimes might try to apply it to more than just the Soul because it might be based on how legendaries do it, and they're actyally a whole (ish) class of card

[fluid fog]

The mod manager hardlocks when I press update. Yesterday it threw an error about a missing git command which I can no longer replicate. Did I miss something during the git install process, is that why the manager isn't working for me? We've already determined that I might be sub-par at clean installations haha.

[silver oriole]

I am reworking on the update function, for now, delete the modpack folder manually then download > install

[sly ledge]

quick question, which mod is the one that lets you end the round even after you hit thr blind limit, i see itd in this pack but i dont know the name

[cedar cosmos]

NotJustYet

[sly ledge]

ty, i know now to disable it lol

[hoary flower]

No idea as to why, but the game crashes when opening a celestial or arcana pack?

other boosters work fine, just arcana and celestial

also its just a straight up crash

no error screen or anything

[silver oriole]

Do you have anything in the run, like what Joker or voucher did you claimed

[hoary flower]

locked is chainsaw

im using the redeemed deck if you cant tell

[silver oriole]

I thought that's a bug that's long fixed but I guess I am wrong

[dense hedge]

I know its a bit late for a reply, but this did work.

[silver oriole]

Huh

[hoary flower]

is there any fix you know of or?

[fast idol]

I downloaded this and wanted to have a the mods be a combination active and inactive but now the game crashes when I open it.

Here was the error message:

[hoary flower]

chat. Why?

[hoary flower]

delete jokerdisplay and jokerdisplaymodsupport from the mods directory

[unkempt elm]

Update the mod, it was fixed recently

[hoary flower]

spicyjokers?

[unkempt elm]

Jokerdisplay

[wise sparrow]

It's not a JokerDisplay issue, I think Paperback is not checking if the JokerDisplay object exists

You can disable the mod through it's own menu if you don't want to delete it every time you update

[zenith apex]

Any ideas on this one?

[fast idol]

Thanks. I wish there was a way to know what mods require other mods so I don't keep crashing Balatro.

[silver oriole]

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases

[silver oriole]

what about jokers

[hoary flower]

None

[silver oriole]

that belongs to bonus blinds

[silver oriole]

you have no jokers at that point?

[hoary flower]

I sold my jokers before buying it

also, this is only with the redeemed deck

(not sure about the one voucher that acts like redeemed deck)

[silver oriole]

maybe it's because of that undiscovered chainsaw voucher?

I have no clue tbh, I am sorry about that

[hoary flower]

it's good, dont worry

I think it is something odd with the redeemed deck, because I haven't had it happen on any other runs.

Tomorrow I'll check with like no jokers or vouchers

[silver oriole]

This version should fix update problems, and after some rest I will attempt to fix play function

[jolly shadow]

i'll try that out later

currently playing other game because i'm bored

[silver oriole]

I mean you are free to do anything as long as it is best for your self

[silver oriole]

The manager program is a project mean for fun, so I will add or fix features here and there, but I cannot guarantee it will work (so I will never push it up to default install method)

I am by no means a professional coder

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/0.5.2

This is never going to be perfect, even the code is ugly to my own eyes lol

[silver oriole]

Canvas really is busted

[brittle spade]

Wait until we add Can’tvas

[silver oriole]

🤯

[brittle spade]

By the way Ankh got a new beta, let me know if it works stable with the pack.
Fair warning that it adds a large amount of time on startup (>10 seconds) because it’s trying to hash all 70 mods before booting up the game

[silver oriole]

Oh, It's that new menu screen you are making?

[brittle spade]

You mean like this one? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209916317604511814/1274606705577037824/image.png?ex=66c2dd7f&is=66c18bff&hm=aeabea13d1be3732392092cb7d956c5b2561976c23d611e23f83ae71260800ce&

[silver oriole]

yes

[brittle spade]

Yeah that was added in this beta

[silver oriole]

did you put the beta out somewhere?

Oh duh

[brittle spade]

GitHub releases

The source control for Ankh is private for obvious reasons

[silver oriole]

No I was looking at the main page

beta ver didn't show

[brittle spade]

Yeah you have to go into the releases tab

It’s weird

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Ankh/releases/tag/v2.0.0-beta2

[silver oriole]

Actually since you are here

Can you explain why it's private? I am not sure why it is tbh

[brittle spade]

• someone finds critical security exploit
• critical security exploit gets patched
• cheater goes back through the commit history to find exactly where the fix was and undo it

[urban wharf]

surely if someone is that commited to cheating they can just locally compare the different downloads?

[brittle spade]

Still possible to this by comparing the source code of the releases (they’re not obfuscated, that would break Rule 1) but I hope it’s future-proofing against potential cheaters who want to use the git history to find flaws

[brittle spade]

Yeah, but you would at least have less data points and it would make it harder

[urban wharf]

As long as there was other stuff in the updated file, I guess

[silver oriole]

Hmm

Cheaters gonna cheat always

[brittle spade]

Yeah there’s not really a way to 100% prevent cheating

The best the replay file can 100% guarantee is that none of the actions were cheated

But still, something like taking the savefile to get the seed and using The Soul will never be 100% preventable

Yes, we do plan on encrypting the savefile and seed to not make it easily accessible
You could also attach a prefix to random seeds to make them longer than what Immolate/The Soul can handle, but it would be relatively easy to just add support for that in your own private version to cheat with it

[silver oriole]

I see

[calm beacon]

Did you ever find a solution to this? I have just experienced this issue.

[silver oriole]

also in redeem deck?

[calm beacon]

I was using Hex deck, but I had the voucher that gave higher tier vouchers

[silver oriole]

Do you also has undiscovered Vouchers that's been redeemed via that voucher

[zenith apex]

I wonder have you fixed the download function or do I have to make due with what I have

[calm beacon]

Probably. I had a lot of vouchers and have 3 undiscovered in my collection.

[silver oriole]

That might be the reason behind that

[silver oriole]

You can test it out but I am afraid it's some strange problem on your end, and out of my scope of fixing

[silver oriole]

If you unlock all is that fixed? I am always doing unlock all btw

[digital magnet]

Feste is a insane joker to use with the needle joker

[unkempt elm]

Nice Xmults

[digital magnet]

Btw what exactly is a spectrum?

[echo oar]

a hand with 5 cards of different suits

[digital magnet]

Gotcha. Ty

[vagrant musk]

Just updated. Recruiter still crashes the game, but now it only does so if it successfully recruits.

[hoary flower]

crash when finishing a round on my current run

using negative deck and on ante 12

it happens when its getting my money

[subtle bane]

Pushed fix

wait maybe not

[sly ledge]

crashes when selecting buisness joker from spicy jokers

[silver oriole]

That is known bug. Avoid that joker

[silver oriole]

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/0.6.0

[silver oriole]

The time travel function can bring back certain historical version of the pack

useful when you accidentally updates modpack mid-run or find the pack too buggy and want a older build

It can only go oneway so if you with to fast-forward after time travel, you need to update the modpack to the latest first

[silver oriole]

Can anyone with Linux or steam deck try this one out? https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/blob/main/ModpackManagerLinux-v1.sh

[silver oriole]

Some observations on my test run on steam deck:

• Cryptid just don't work. It will crash the instant title animation ends and title screen about to load.
• Not just yet's end round button, which is mapped to left shift, which is mapped to Y button on controller, conflicted with discard button (also Y)

[fast escarp]

I believe also the deck selection screen doesn't work properly (works fine with right stick mouse and manual mouse via steam input, but via left stick inputs doesn't work)

[cloud grail]

Were you able to get someone to test it?

[silver oriole]

?

[cloud grail]

Oh did the wrong one, meant this

[silver oriole]

I don't know, no one's replying

I tested on my steam deck and linux mint vm, but latter is not going well

[vague kettle]

btw, the managers settings doesnt work

[silver oriole]

I'd admit, that is the trickiest part

I need to get back to it at some point

[vague kettle]

yeah ill just redownload the mod the old fashioned way

[silver oriole]

Your game also install on a different drive or something ?

[vague kettle]

yeah

[silver oriole]

I have attempted many times to get it working but they all end up in the scrap bin

I can't

But maybe one day, after I fix my own sleeping schedule

[vague kettle]

😔

[silver oriole]

??

Are you on linux?

[vague kettle]

no?

[silver oriole]

That happened on my steam deck

Not windows tho

[vague kettle]

im on windows😭

[silver oriole]

Mysterious

[vague kettle]

the weird thing is i can hear the starting wooosh sound

[silver oriole]

Exactly as I stated here

[vague kettle]

not quite the same, when it finished loading it immediately crash for me

or is that because i had nopeus

at max

thats probably it

[silver oriole]

My nopeus is not on max

But the crash code is the same

[vague kettle]

same crash, with less mods

[silver oriole]

It will fix if you remove cryptid

[silver oriole]

I've decided to report this to cryptid channel, we should wait

[brittle spade]

I think I see the issue, will fix today

Has to do with empty config file not having things that it expects to

[silver oriole]

shit

cannot wrap my head around this manager at all

I am frustrated

[silver oriole]

I've figured it out

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.0.0

@cyan helm @wind haven @vague kettle you guys can test it out now, and please do tell me if I missed something

[brittle spade]

@silver oriole issue fixed

[next heath]

I literally just reinstalled the pack RIGHT before you fixed this

Lmfao

[brittle spade]

they still need to merge it anyway I think

[next heath]

yeah

[silver oriole]

working on it

merged

[silver oriole]

I mean, that is one of the first thing I can think of to be implemented

[unkempt elm]

Will you remove the "SDM_0's_Stuff" option for money? 😏 😏 /j

[silver oriole]

Wha

How much

[unkempt elm]

2 peanuts

[silver oriole]

Deal

Good enough?

[unkempt elm]

👍

[silver oriole]

Jokes aside, this manager has become my most ambitious project of all time

And I (think I) learned a lot along the way

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.1.0

That is it for today

It's 3 am already

[hoary flower]

Manager doesn't save the settings for me

Can't change file location so :(

[hoary flower]

antimatter deck moment

[hoary flower]

correction:

[wind haven]

Seems like the settings isn't saving at all

also is redeemed deck gone

[silver oriole]

How did you operate this?

[wind haven]

changed the directory, clicked save, clicked x, clicked play, error appears

[silver oriole]

Can you try also fill in profile name, and hit set, just for a test

"Balatro" will do

[hearty wing]

Any clue as to what mod could cause major lag spikes with barely any resources being used for the game? With my set up I shouldn't get any at all but after about 5 minutes it starts and gets progressively worse.

[cedar cosmos]

jokerdisplay?

[hearty wing]

I'll try

[silver oriole]

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.1.1

@hoary flower @wind haven The bugs stated should be fixed

[vague kettle]

uhh playing the game with the manager makes me play vanilla

oh wait its like that after i download/install the modpack through the launcher

[silver oriole]

Oh, I forgor to add prompt for user to restart manager after install

That is actually quite a strange bug though

[vague kettle]

oh now lovely loads but still no steamodded

[silver oriole]

🫠

But the mods folder is correctly copied?

[vague kettle]

yes

[silver oriole]

Do you have multiple profiles like oppositewolf did?

[vague kettle]

no

[silver oriole]

If not play through manager, via steam is normal?

[vague kettle]

^ nope

[silver oriole]

So the modpack just won't load anyhow

[vague kettle]

wait what

all the folders is filled with .git file

[silver oriole]

Only .git file you mean

[vague kettle]

yeah, no name no nothing

only 1kb .git

[silver oriole]

Can you force download again

It looks like something is wrong during clone

[vague kettle]

and its not responding

[silver oriole]

Wait for it

I don't know how to make it display a progress bar

[vague kettle]

no💔 still doesnt work

mods that only use lovely doesnt seem to be affected

[silver oriole]

Bruh

the mods still only downloaded .git files?

[vague kettle]

yep

[silver oriole]

I've tested many times I don't know why it doesn't work

It's working for me

[vague kettle]

gitdir: ../../.git/modules/Mods/Betmma_mods this is the inside of the file

[silver oriole]

That is normal git stuff

[vague kettle]

updating git to see if that does something

no💔

[silver oriole]

yeah I don't know

Are there anyone that Don't have this problem

Maybe I should just ditch gitpython and use just git instead

[vague kettle]

Wait updating works

im gaming rn

[silver oriole]

Also I just noticed that update = force download + all install

I should polish the functions somehow

[wind haven]

The antivirus keep blocking me from downloading the latest version

can I trust you that you don't put any malware in

[silver oriole]

the source code is on github, you can read it yourself

If you still don't trust my pre-package, you can use pyinstaller to package by yourself

It'll be completely the same

[rose swan]

what did get added in the past 5 days?

I can't update my mod pack

[silver oriole]

Past five days?

[silver oriole]

I mean you can always reclone

[silver oriole]

https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.1.2

No new functions just some tweaks of main menu

[silver oriole]

It looks like there are more "modern" gui creators like pyqt6, I might take a look into a transition

[vagrant musk]

Not really a bug, but some interactions between the Tier 3 Vouchers mod's... well, Tier 3 Vouchers, and the more powerful Cryptid ones will prioritize the Tier 3 Vouchers ones. Maybe the Cryptid ones should be considered Tier 4 while you have Tier 3 Vouchers installed?

[digital magnet]

Archibald is crazy lol, just copied triboulet

It copied it 3 antes in a row

[dense wharf]

what do you mean by this? not sure i understand

might be because of redeem order or something else

[vagrant musk]

Maybe. B1GInf gave me all the Money Tree upgrades, but Money Beanstalk was overridden by Money Forest, so instead of unlimited interest I got a max of 40.

[dense wharf]

Yeah I think it's redeem order

[cyan helm]

@silver oriole The new modpack manager seems to be exactly what I needed. Thank you so much! I haven't noticed any issues yet, but I'll let you know if I encounter any in the future.

[silver oriole]

I never know about that profile thing, it's interesting you can do that

[cyan helm]

Yeah I didn't know about it for the longest time. I was trying to do it all through r2modman and then somebody told me about it. Super helpful

[silver oriole]

I was thinking about adding a function to automatically create new profile for users

[subtle bane]

It’s a neat thing to do overall

[silver oriole]

But then I thought what if they don't have a balatro.exe to begin with (as in they actually modified the file into other names)

[subtle bane]

I think only Ankh has an extra profile iirc

[silver oriole]

The way I was thinking to implement this is that if users submitted a profile name that doesn't have a counterpart .exe file in the game directory, copy balatro.exe into profile name.exe

But you cannot do that if the balatro.exe itself is not present

Ah, maybe I can let user choose their renamed .exe file that they wish to copy from, if the manager couldn't find balatro.exe file in game directory

But that will be implemented some other time

[silver oriole]

suggestions are welcomed: new mods to be added to packs, any function to be added to manager, any feedback to both, anything

[mellow quail]

Ok, finally got around to testing if the stacked red seals and death issue happens on normal settings for that mod, and answer is yes:

• duplicating a card with stacked seals on it results in the transformed card having the "Red seals added by deja vu" setting for Stacked Red Seals more seals than the card it was copied from, i.e., one more seal on the copy on default settings, or two more if that setting is "2 seals per deja vu", etc.

You can either just use the new card as the base to copy another card and get yet more seals, or, with infinite death cards, can just bounce two cards back and forth, copying each other, to stack the number of red seals arbitrarily high. Happening in Fine Tuned, I think it happened in Full when I tried it a little while back.

Let's break that big paragraph up a bit so its more readable

[silver oriole]

Don't know if that is a modpack issue or mod issue though, should test some more if possible

[mellow quail]

I'll see if I remember to try testing just the mod itself on a new run, if I ever get around to one of those. This one clearly isn't ending until something totally breaks or I just give it up.

[brittle spade]

first run I've done of this mod in a while...

[silver oriole]

Busted as usual

Will it exclude Jen's Almanac cards?

[mellow quail]

So... exotic jokers are excluded, but is the Gateway or whatever the definitely-not-the-soul card that gives one?

[dense wharf]

Don’t think so

Still gotta destroy all your jokers if you do that though

[mellow quail]

Sure... But those two jokers in that shot, vs one exotic? The math seems pretty clear for me, at least. In other circumstances could certainly be different, though.

Hmm... Are Vouchers cards, by that thing's standards?

[dense wharf]

Yeah it can make vouchers

Can also make blinds if you really feel like it

[brittle spade]

the busted ones (Exotic+)

[brittle spade]

forgot to update on this btw, but I ended up picking luigi and winning easily because it's OP

luigi and waluigi really need to be nerfed

[vagrant musk]

Probably, but there'd probably be nothing that stops you from making the ||Godsmarble, which is the thing you fuse with certain Jokers to make those better-than-Exotic Jokers||.

[vagrant musk]

Luigi's in the mod? I couldn't find him on the sheet.

[tidal perch]

Pointer can also make pointer

[vagrant musk]

What's the Pointer of that?

[tidal perch]

Pointer

Also sacrifice spam

[sonic harbor]

perkeo

perkeo the pointer to literally code your own ideal build

[vagrant musk]

Got me there.

[sonic harbor]

I gotta go through my cryptid settings again - I disabled a lot since I test for Familiar

[vagrant musk]

Though the easiest way to get Perkeo would be to use the Pointer, now wouldn't it?

[sonic harbor]

and see where Pointer is at because I know i have some of the spectrals and code cards

[sonic harbor]

Well yes and no

The idea is that you would use Perkeo to get more Pointers

and if like

pointer is a unique spectral that can't be pulled again you use it and hope you can pull a perkeo later on or a Soul card

[vagrant musk]

Ah so it's like the DX Spectrals and the Cursed Tarots. It appears once in your run and then it's gone.

If that's the case they should probably have that Unique indicator on it...

[sonic harbor]

they should 🤔

At least last time i used it idk

DX tarots are kinda mid IMO

i stopped using it a while ago because it just starts breaking with 1.0 stuff

[vagrant musk]

Fair. I like the concept of multi-tier consumables.

[sonic harbor]

I feel like both (so far) Familiar's tarot system and hopefully Cryptid's eventual EX tarots would be fun

I just think "oh do the same thing but doubled" is kinda mid and the curses are just kinda not worth it for most

[vagrant musk]

I thought EX consumables were gonna be a Jen's Almanac exclusive.

[silver oriole]

They are

[vagrant musk]

Will Jen's Almanac be in the modpack when it comes out, by the way?

[brittle spade]

Should I test if it loads properly with it? (I have a playtest version)

[sonic harbor]

I thought it was being considered for OG cryptid at some point

(My brain is filled with misinformation)

[silver oriole]

That would be awesome

[brittle spade]

We moved it to Jen’s

[sonic harbor]

That makes a lot of sense

[brittle spade]

ok it loaded without crashing

going to look at the collection and then see if it breaks in a run

oh that's probably why

ok we're in

[silver oriole]

huh, we need incantation for that?

[brittle spade]

now to play DoE with this and see what happens

ok I crashed when opening the "Other" section of the collection

[silver oriole]

What's supposed to be in other

[brittle spade]

stickers, at least

also one of the qol mods makes tapping on touchscreen to select cards annoying

I'm basically forced to use drag controls

[silver oriole]

Handy?

[brittle spade]

probably

now that I'm used to the drag controls it's fine but before it was annoying

[silver oriole]

I actually have the same issue when testing on my steam deck

I'll let them know and see if there're a fix to this

[brittle spade]

oh also notjustyet doesn't work

as for testing, haven't found much yet

but no bugs which is good, mainly have seen the new enhancements

[silver oriole]

What kind of doesn't work tho

[brittle spade]

like it jsut doesn't do what it's supposed to

i score the blind requirement, the round ends

why is the flourescent shader looking cursed

Doodle M and M is an insane combo

negative consumables each round, and more every time

beautiful collection

it thought I was still in a mod additions menu for some reason

oh also the hotkeys bug cryptid's class

I just made 3 mult cards with one consumable

[vagrant musk]

Ayo new Enhancements? What do they do?

[vagrant musk]

I've exploited that little oversight.

Not sure if that's cheating or just wavedashing

It also works on Variable.

[brittle spade]

this is the one I'm abusing

the sfx is insane

i found a better joker

found an issue with jokerdisplay compatibility

and of course disabling that means I have to modify TWEWY code

makes tons of sense

[silver oriole]

Does that mean twewy is dependent on jd?

[brittle spade]

twewy was in one file though

also had issues with paperback

anyway I completely broke the mod

[silver oriole]

Sigh, looks like it's having many compat issues

[brittle spade]

This wasn’t from compat issues (I don’t think)

[silver oriole]

Do you think it's fine to be added in this private testing ?

[tidal oyster]

no idea how to fix that until jalmanac releases 😔

[wise sparrow]

Both TWEWY and Paperback issues are known but I can't do much about it until the devs fix it sadly

Maybe you can use my fork of TWEWJ in the meantime?

[jolly shadow]

i finally caught up with backlog

i've been busy with life but i will try test run soon

[void glacier]

has the mod updated with the 0.5.0 pre release of cryptid or are you gonna wait for a more stable release

[cedar cosmos]

the pack uses latest

[void glacier]

ik but its not stable

its a prerelease not an actual release

so idk i thought dim would wait a bit

[cedar cosmos]

latest as in the latest commit in the github

so its the prerelease and then some

[void glacier]

ok thx 😊

[rose swan]

The mod pack is not working for me anymore after updating it

nvm

It works if I open it from the mod loader

How does this work???

THE GAME IS MUCH SMOOTHER

HOW

[silver oriole]

what happened

[brittle spade]

I’ve noticed this before when playing the modpack, without JA, so it’s likely not that

[brittle spade]

They probably relaunched it

[brittle spade]

I guess

Fair warning that Jen told me he didn’t plan on adding JokerDisplay compat, and because of that I got a crash when trying to blueprint one of its jokers

[wise sparrow]

That sounds like an issue on my end, if a mod doesn't have compat nothing should happen

[brittle spade]

Yeah, that’s why I wanted to mention it

[silver oriole]

Tbh if you are using JA you probably won't need JD

[wise sparrow]

what happened to JB and JC

[silver oriole]

they eloped

[wise sparrow]

fixed the blueprint issue