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idle horizon
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Rare

Image: A CAPTCHA box with a malformed 'JOKER' text.

Effect: x5 mult If played hand is a [HAND] that contains a [RANK]. [Hand and Rank changes every round]

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took some time off making jokers - back with something new.

viscid nest
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Sounds a little weak

sharp light
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so like, Ancient Joker but for rank instead of suit?

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in terms of triggering the effect

idle horizon
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sorta like how Flower Pot gives x3 if you have a hand containing all suits

idle horizon
sharp light
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right right

idle horizon
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i think its pretty tightly designed

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at most - i think i could bump it down from Rare to Uncommon?

sharp light
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it's just very demanding

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especially if it asks for a hand type that you physically can't make

idle horizon
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yes - but also if you start rigging your deck to be mono-suited, you can cheese it

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also if you cant make the hand type - it wont ask for it

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i believe thats how other jokers like that work?

sharp light
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nope

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ancient Joker can asks for suits you don't have

viscid nest
# idle horizon why?

Card Sharp is uncommon and gives the same effect for playing a hand twice, while this has a ratter hard to fulfil condition and is rare.

idle horizon
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even then - you'll only be stuck with it for one round and then it'll change to something else

sharp light
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hot take but card sharp is mid

idle horizon
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but nobody wants to admit it becaue High Card Card Sharp cheese is how half of you win at gold stakes

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But - i suppose you have a point

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what about x4 then?

viscid nest
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I think x5 would be fair, considering it's very hard to fulfil this condition

idle horizon
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its random

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i fear that making the mult too high would break it

viscid nest
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Exactly. It's random, so you can't build around it

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It's hard to reliably activate it

sharp light
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especially if we look at this through the lens of "I want to beat ante-8"

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if it gives you a hand type you can't rely on during the final boss then it's a dud joker

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and that level of RNG is not something most folks are gonna be happy to gamble on

viscid nest
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This is exactly what I wanted to say, but phrased 10 times better

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I always sucked at phrasing things right

sharp light
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I took a compositional writing class explicitly so I could phrase things better

viscid nest
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Cool

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I didn't

idle horizon
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hmmm

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perhaps x5 is justified then.

ruby pecan
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You can not build around this. If you already had any kind of build you would not take this. This is a single round joker if it happens to land on your build. This is untakeable 90% of the time. Making it gives a higher xmult cannot fix it.