#Sigil - (Six Hundred Suits [continuance of sixty suits])
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will work on this
what do we think of this
yes i am aware of the incredible quality of the logos
tiny mistakes haunt me until i fix them
closer look at them
that is fair because i chose it at random and did not pick from a balatro joker that would fit the palette
i will change it now
idc about the palette its just ugly, you don't need to change it if you don't wanna
no i mean im gonna change the brown becuase it is Ugly
real
the red & blue are from balatro
i see
ah perfect
the literal soda joker
this is much better
recolored them
and someone PLEASE do the coca cola and dr pepper logos better
the pepsi one is probably fine but i literally just wrote out the other ones
i feel like both adding jokers and new suits might be a bit too much to handle tbh
I disagree
modders have enough time on their hands
i feel like the hardest part will be the rock jokers because they each have a unique effect, but everything else i can make dynamic code for
got a little wacky with it
this does make the art part easier to setup
wanted a yellow for the color but thought the orange would show up better for the most part
saved
I think I finally got google docs to agree with me and let rattlingsnow be an editor for the doc
I've been fighting with it on my computer for over an hour atp
i'm gonna start trying to catch up with the new additions where i can
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V97CoZjSDf2UUhnhgnLbyfO8s3C-P-1yQYLIsPmBTG4/edit?usp=sharing here's the list for viewing if anyone wants
the boss for bolts should be the nail
this is the crystal joker for Suits now btw
for cards i was thinking the fold
card suit mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
boss for triangles could be The Square and for squares could be The Triangle
kinda dumb idea though
nobodies should be the somebody
I'm trying to avoid re-use of terms where I can
i should prob make face cards for the suits i did
So if it's already a suit name I don't want to make it also a blind
boss for luas could be The Python (might be too similar to Serpent though)
shorten the kilogram to just the kilo i think
the c
oh wait how about rust
(best programming language 💯)
rust would work well
Don't they?
if anyone wants to do it in my place i'd appreciate it a lot (wild suit would just be a mix of heart and spade face cards with their head covered by the wild symbol, card suit would just be roughly the same as ace but with more pips)
Kings just move slow lol
I was gonna do nail/nut for bolts but I realized that on the card art itself its bolts as in lightning bolts
i have a really random idea
working on getting those down rn
we should do a country flag as a suit
the poland
imagine five of spains or something dumb
king of USAs
Queen of Englands
boss blind is the UK
Eternal Sticker (Eternals), Fractals/Mendelbrots?, Pairs, Stamps, Satellites, and Wilds are the ones I don't have down yet on the list, gonna do those now
for points you could do the circle (although maybe that would be too similar to the eye)
the ellipse?
did you put the card suit on the list?
lets go with Mendelbots
we could do circle and just have the symbol be a filled in circle to make it distinct from the eye?
Cards is on there, yeah
you're cooking.
for moons you could do the day (prob not the sun becuase of confusion with the tarot)
its weird doing this knowing i now have an audience
ikr
moons is actually from a diff mod (Six Suits), i just can't remember what the blind is called in that mod
eclipse i think?
if someone could try and go check that for me btw that'd be great
the void
wait then whats stars
one was the void
i can just go check hold on
oh maybe stars is void and moon was eclipse the whole time whoops
fires cant have the water, thats already taken
the eclipse for moons and the void for stars yeah i checked
the extinguisher?
thank you
yw
the problem now becomes that we do have two fires now
cogwheels > steampunk joker
wait there's a second
one as in actual fire and one as in the alchemy symbol
maybe the actual fire could be flames instead
yeah thats probably better to avoid ambiguity
btw getting some tarot and sin joker art done would allow me to put some of those in game
yeah one has to change to avoid confusion in joker/blind descriptions
also the nothing suit's tarot should just be the
do we have a nothings?
btw the order I'm coding them
allows for the dynamic part
except rock jokers
shoot which fires is already named in the code
i can code whichever one
i don't wanna change the name of the one thats already in the code if that's gonna mess up the code
i can change it really easy
oh
i coded it that way :]
hell yeah :D
yeah
also i think i now have all the existing suits (ones that have had art submitted) in there?
rest of list
oh wait i didn't do sodas
flames
nulls?
i think nobodies is meant to be a kingdom hearts reference lol
yup
"The " is very funny tho i like that
is the tarot card resolution the same as jokers?
what would the tarot for the wild suit be? something like "the lovers?" or "the uproar"?
Fires is being called flames to make room for the alchemical symbol for fire to be called "fires" instead
the first one is a base game tarot
The Loved?
yeah the tarot for wild cards but with a question mark
ohhh having the question mark just be in there could also work, since that's already what the Six Suits mod did lol
was trying to be clear with the quotes but it didn't clarify enough 😔
And I'm back. What'd I miss within the calamity?
the link has been shared to view the doc
come watch me panic type
i made 2 silly suits and redrew one old one, one of the silly suits received some minor praise so now i'm prob gonna keep contributing to this mod every now and then
Bells could be Copper, since that's the closest natural thing we have to Bronze, which is what the Liberty Bell was made from
Nice
wild suit blind = the mundane/boring/melancholic
?
I like mundane
I just got a really dumb idea for the Fleurs' blind, because it's a YuGiOh reference... The Sync (as in 'Synchro')
shoot
How does this sound?
i have noticed, i don't dare touch that rn lmao
i added it
i will take anything for fleurs because i haven't the slightest idea for them
Just a dumb YuGiOh reference, since I immediately thought of Baronne de Fleur. XD
i think somewhere back in this thread, the rocks for 8s and Nulls were given abilities by the person who made those suits, but i have no clue how to dig those up atp
8s' rock joker was to make all played 8s to the rank 8, I believe
nulls i have no idea
Nulls could be treated as Stone Cards, like their value is now 'null'
for wild suit how about "played cards without the wild suit have a 1 in 3 chance to gain wild enhancement" or ofc the simple "cards with the wild suit count as all suits"
the "gain wild enhancement" one feels more in line with how rock jokers typically act, i think
nulls rock joker: If played hand contains at least one scoring card with Nulls suit, convert all cards in played hand to Nulls suit
nulls technically has a rock joker ability already, we just have to dig it up from in this thread somewhere lol
8's rock joker:1 in 4 chance for each played card with Eights suit to turn into an 8
is that the one that the suit maker gave it?
yes and no, neither is exactly in line since its usually a benefit on scoring of the specific suit
yep
the
epics
The !!!
first time ever doing art for this game. this was probably on the easier end
could just combine them though to make "played cards with the wild suit have a 1 in 2 chance to gain the wild enhancement after hand is played"
yep but all art helps
Fleurs' Joker could be called the Musketeer Joker, considering the Fleur-de-lis
so true, i've pretty much just done small things and a recolor so far
are you the one who made the wilds suit art, by chance? /gen
yup
bc if you are then whatever you want is what i'll go with 1000% bc its your suit technically
(within some level of reason ofc so it's not crazy)
ah i'd prefer feedback actually
ah
Bolts' Blind could be called The Conductor
i mean, this sounds reasonable, though i might change the start to specify that's its scored cards instead?
fair
because most jokers only effect scored cards i think
true
sword rock joker idea: (might be hard to code)
Whetstone
Every played card of Swords suit lowers the blind by some number%.
doesn't sound hard to code
are the sin jokers going to be automated?
yes
no
thats gonna suck
depends
Whetstone is a really smart name and I'm kinda upset I didn't think about it ahead of time lmao
I'll put the ability on there for now but it'll be up to RattlingSnow if he wants to code that i think
in the code, completely automated. Art wise no
this wouldn't be that hard right snow? like its basically quantum flux with a different trigger
also the unnamed art needs to be assigned
actually now that i think about it it wouldn't be that bad
seems easy
im gonna see if we can,, @shrewd burrow whats the program you used to generate the cards last time again?
i wanna do it for the sin jokers too
IMG_4342 should absolutely be for Cubes/Pyrite, yeah?
that would help
nandeck can't do recolours iirc
ah
Maybe the Keys' rock/gem could be Nickel, since that's what most keys are made out of?
suit wise
yeah
also that stone is fools gold
Cubes suit, called Pyrite
yeah that one was made to be pyrite
pyrite yeah
Fool's gold is pyrite lol
i dont know my stones ok
fair enough lol
this makes sense
cube suit
also the tarot for nulls seems to be in the wrong spot
fixed
i have to ask @tropic shard
hourglass selenite
i just searched the messages
cool
speaking of which missing texture as a rock? idk just spitballing
As for what it'd do, maybe it'd give Key suited cards a chance to draw two cards after being scored, giving the 'Keys' you need to succeed by making a better hand?
what up rock man hru
what are these rocks
missing texture might be a stretch for counting as "rock or rock-adjacent" tbh
opal, hourglass selenite, rutilated quartz, dalmation stone, pyrite/fools gold, howlite, and titanium quartz
yeah probably
cool, thanks
👍
Meanwhile, I'm just spitballing ideas for gems/rocks and their effects
howlite you say??? hmm interesting (paw suit rock joker frfr)
works for me lol
i'm waiting
if that first one is Opal, I think Fire Opal is on there for Fires if we wanna go with that
or we can save it for a diff suit that it might fit
Howlite I think we're making the rock for Paws
Though ig Dalmation stone could also be that
true
if only arrowhead didn't exist. it would be perfect for the arrow suit lmao
I keep forgetting I put down Mr. Salt from Blues Clues as the stone for Clues 💀
trueee
lol
Rutilated Quartz is stumping me fr
it looks like a lemon slice and that's all i'm getting from it atm
should the gem for dollars suit just be some expensive/valuable one?
gtg in 2 minutes I'll be back in like 30
its kinda got the Epic Face/Roflamos color palette
tbh i've gotta go for the night soon
i'm sleeby as hell
yeah idk what else it would be
i just wanted to get the suit list public and then get the wave of initial suggestions on there bc I figured that would happen upon sharing it
kinda did
gn soundwave sleep well
okay before i go as well: eternal rock should be bedrock
brb
yeah i'm gonna hit the hay now
i left it as a notice on the doc but i'll also say here; feel free to DM me suggestions while i'm asleep so that i can easily recover them and add them to the list in the morning!
gn
Byeeeeeeeeeeee
will do 🫡 i wanna flesh out the rest of the ideas for the suits i made
speaking of which thoughts on cinnabar for wild suit?
Cinnabar for Wild could be interesting
Yeah, it does
i'll dm both suggestions to soundwave then
I already got a few ideas sent to them already- Want the list of it so far yourself?
only if you sent an idea for card suit tbh
also, aventurine for card suit? i could edit the pips on the art to be club or "chance" green to fit better
I more so get ideas to fill in the blanks for the other suits we already have planned
After all, best focus on what we do know than what we don't know, am I right?
and heres this tigers eye thing if u guyses can use it
epic for garfeild i persume
mr rock man can i request cinnabar art?
oh btw i've just been resizing these so far. but if its not a problem could you resize them to 142x190 for future ones
thanks
left
the right one
lile starbrry cheescake
the left looks pretty but the purpose i have in mind calls for the right one
You got a script? because I've been doing them by hand, and that would be very helpful.
ill do it soon then :)
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ty rock man very cool
cool, thanks
the script is for https://www.nandeck.com/
anyone made a malachite gemstone yet?
nope
im sorry
some appear to be missing
which ones?
SIX HUNDRED?????
you spawned this
D:
im not sure
theyre no longer on my list and i am having issues finding them
i’ve scanned this thread up and down so i don’t think i’ve missed them if they’re from here
and afaik we have all the suits that are actually from Sixty Suits already so I don’t think we missed anything there, since i think the list was directly transferred from there
what about reds?
We have Red Cards, but I never saw one for just “Reds”
what are they called, then?
"Red Cards" is the suit name
it's true it happened because a thing I said while watching your stream on sixty suits.
I've started trying to come up with general/template ideas for rock joker abilities that aren't suit-specific
I've been adding them to the bottom of the list doc
i dont think they are
the names of the related items dont really line up with that
they are
Red Cards is the name I was given for the suit from the list in the code
So that's what they're called as far as I can tell
if you scroll to the bottom of the doc those are the names in the code currently
okay then theyre red cards then
yeah
i can grab the non six hundred mod suit gem abilities for you if you're down to copy paste them on the sheet
yea
i mean, its not the most important thing to have them but if you want to you can lol
i also see blue cards, but where are purple and gold/yellow cards?
or are they just not added to the thing yet
only red and blue cards had designs submitted to Sixty Suits so those are the only ones we have atm
could someone make a 🦞 suit (formal request)
okay then it isnt red cards because its from sixty suits
yeah, we pulled red cards from sixty suits
as with blue cards
ok
this is sixty suits with more suits and with everything other thing normal suits have.
yes i know that
"Played cards with Diamond suit earn $1 when scored"
"1 in 2 chance for played cards with Heart suit to give X1.5 Mult when scored" (newest experimental)
"Played cards with Spade suit give +50 Chips when scored"
"Played cards with Club suit give +7 Mult when scored"
are all the base game rocks
not batman suits joker suits
there weren't purple or yellow card suits in sixty suits as far as i've seen, so we don't have those in this mod either
like from batman tho
"Gains +1 Chips for every card with an Ink, suit is scored"
"1 in 10 chance to convert scored cards into the Color suit"
ok yes
"1 in 5 chance for played cards with Note suit to create a Tarot card when scored"
i am asking about the one i made, to be clear
these are the ones we have in the mod atm, idk which ones you made
if there was a different Reds then it wasn't in Sixty Suit's list when Snow pulled it for this mod
i want to do a crown suit mod is it already taken ?
we don't have crowns yet, go ahead
thx
"1 in 10 chance for played cards with Star suit to create a random Spectral card when scored"
"1 in 2 chance for played cards with Moon suit to become Glass cards"
from six suits, also its "Rainbow Moonstone" not just moonstone
idk which ones on the list i made either other than eternals and pairs
ok
any special suggestions for what to put on the card for the card suit? i'm gonna edit it a bit to include green so it matches the gem joker and has luck theming
hm
i mean, having it stay simple to match the smaller icons seems fine to me
im having trouble setting up nan Deck
alright sure
currently making highs since thats cards instead of highs
what do you think ? [crown suit]
i can at least say that i think all of those are in fact on the list rn lol
ok so they are on the list
then what are they
That image shows Airs, Cherry Blossoms, Cards, Earths, Fires, Eternals, Mendelbrots, Pairs, Clues, Nobodies, Suits, Stamps, Satellites, Lastations, Losses, Waters, Wilds
*mandelbrots?
yes those
damn i thought i spell checked that
its also wrong on the sheet
cool
why stamps? wont that be ambiguous with the 3 other seals?
because we've only had one of them submitted so far
if other colors get submitted the names can be changed to make them distinct
i submitted all four of them
is it possible to retrieve my pfp?
look man idk
i'm getting the list from snow as he adds them to his folders for coding
i'm not the one actively accepting the submissions
i could figure out the corners for those :/
ok?
oh also i was considering adding clearer borders to the cards. heres 2 examples (also wondering about the p.card pip change)
I like the second one better (both for the borders and the pip change)
with extra border better than without extra border?
white background for showing what it'd look like on cards if not obvious
i say with extra border
they are finished ! jk
heres the very slightly better version
why is it so ugly
there's something wrong with the crowns (not the small ones the bigger ones)
they're tall
i don't think they're quite centered?
they are i think
i will cut their legs
mb they're not
damn
just by making them symetrical they look better 😂
highs
why is the ace so tiny
same reason pairs ace is tiny
and why is it highs if its a 1
noice
which tags?
all of them
ah
you probs missed this but there had been a previous discussion about not doing too many suits (more than like, 4) that are all one theme/category because it takes away from the eclectic nature of the mod
especially because if all the tags got added rn that'd now be approximately a third of all the suits
oh ok ill remove all of those groups from my list then
no
oh
wow that removed like 300 i only have 35 now
please remove highs and pairs from all lists they are no longer needed
goodbye
i guess
i'm a little unclear on what just happened
lets just go with it
alr
Shield rock ability idea: cards with Shields suit give +X mult while in hand
very distracted by everything else but i'll go start on another one, 1 per day sounds kinda okayish to me
it looks weird i don't really know how he would be dressed
btw if you'd like i could make versions without the backgrounds, just the symbols
i can't get the left "thing" right
four of my suits
- Zolphius'
- Binkles
- Eli's
- Natsumi's
I got some more
- Bittergiggles
- Syringeons
- Toadsters
- Mari's
- Ai's
@floral relic thoughts so far?
the png ones would need to be redrawn to be added.
Epic
cool i'll do the smaller icons for this suit just like this then
I do have the files on me
lemme go grab them
crown king is done what do you think ?
cool
just added some details in the middle section
thx
i will do the queen and the third one (don't know his name in english) later or tomorrow
jockey i think
do you have nandeck setup?
Yes
i don't know how to work the app
@floral relic gonna do 1 per day so feel free to remind me tomorrow and the day after to do the last 2
i have the code, just no cule how to use the app
ahh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FAd0gOE3Rw here is a tutorial
Learn how to make your own trading cards using Nandeck. You can also use this free software to make trading cards like Magic the Gathering and Pokemon at your own home.
You can get all of the resources from this video here (Artwork, Spreadsheet, Code):
http://streamlinedgaming.com/nandeck-resources
Download NanDeck Here:
http://www.nand.it/na...
Ok
Looks great
👍
queen done [crown suit]
cinnabar finsihed 👍
epics
i'm doing the ui_assets and i can't decide if it's godd or bad
how many suit jokers do we have (non-stone)
none :/
What have I done 
oh yeah streamer boy in chat woaaahhh
i like da silly content
Ty ty 🫂
Welcome to the calamity. XD
Idea for this mod is limit the amount of cards you can start with
like for example you can start with 20 cards of the same rank random suit
probably would be quite difficult to code it
but it would be nice instead of having 600 hundred cards of the same rank
which would be extremely laggy
i have tried playing with over 1200 cards and it does get laggy
despite my pc being quite good
and i don't thing playing with 7800 cards in your deck would be... well ethical
so minimize to probably around 260 cards or maybe 130
Oh god just saw this waht the Hell I tried 60 suits and it was insane what is this
Is there a Sheet so I don't go insane
or another thing is just make us start with twice as many than base but only with base suits
there probably is less than 30 suits as of right now
but you can suggest your own suits
the 60 suit limit was put in place because
- it's 10x 6 suits
- time constraint
- it should be vaguely playable
600 suits for next april fools
yes
playing with 60 suits is playable but i don't know about 600
probably unplaying but i have suggested a way to optimise starting deck
mhm
I call cap, 60 suits was the limit because that's all steamodded would let you do
oh that too
- Start with 20 random suits and make consumables that sets cards to random suit more likely to spawn
- Start with quadruple the base deck and make consumables that sets cards to random suit more likely to spawn
for the Garten of Banban suits the Jokers could be Givanium and Queen's Scepter and for the Boss Blind, The Leech
the Tarot could be The Surgeon
hang on lemme think about this for a second
I think here’s what I would do to make it balanced:
- There is a deck that contains all 600 suits for the ultimate chaos
- The base game selects four random suits to appear. New suits can only be obtained from standard packs or with a small chance from tarots
- Suit jokers, tarots, and bosses (besides that small chance) can only appear if you have had a card with that suit at some point in the run
Part of me has wondered about organizing the suits into sets of four in the same way the vanilla suits are sort of a “set”
Like, we have four different currency suits and we have four different alchemy suits
So those could maybe be their own decks or something
(I really shouldn’t be suggesting this bc it inevitably means more work for myself but whatever)
nonono you're cooking
so 2 more for the wild suit card suit set
bonus card is one i could do
It will probably take some amount of time to just organize the suits into their sets before we start deciding what sets are missing suits lol
fair but i'd personally like to make the suits i made into a set of only suits i made
I’ll have to get started on that later (I’m kinda sick today so I don’t know if I’ll be doing anything for that list today)
that’s fair
red cards and blue cards could also work for the set but blehhhhh
Red Cards and Blue Cards probably just need two other card colors (Someone suggested Purple and Yellow at some point, though I don’t think there’s a purple deck in the base game so maybe green instead?)
Or ig black cards for that matter
yellow and black to mimic the high contrast colors?
tbh that does sound good
That could work
currently working on the Garten of Banban suits
Especially because I feel like yellow and black could both have very obvious stone joker abilities relating to their deck’s respective abilities
Yellow would give money and black would maybe somehow make a joker negative in some very specific case
Group 1
- Devils (banban)
- Teachers (banbaleena)
- Jumbos (Jumbo Josh)
- Fiddles (captain fiddles)
Group 2
- Stingers (stinger flynn)
- Selines (slow seline)
- Nabnabs (nabnab)
- Nabnaleenas (nabnaleena)
Group 3 (The Kingdom)
- Toadsters (sheriff toadster)
- Bouncelias (queen bouncelia)
- Jesters (bittergiggle)
- Kittysaurs (kittysaurus)
Group 4 (Cityngeon)
- Surgeons (syringeon)
- Citizens (unnamed citizens)
- Infants (givanium infants)
- Marionettes (unnamed marionette)
wait so are those all banban related?
yes
maybe but they are in their own categories
we’re trying to limit related jokers to around four to keep the eclectic-ness of the mod as a whole
i guess so but 16 suits would be like, nearly a quarter of the mod atm
tbh sorting out banban characters into groups is hard
quarter of 600?
well we aren’t at 600 atm (and also i’m not 100% sure how serious Snow is about actually getting to 600)
:]
But regardless, we don’t want to have a large proportion of the suits follow one theme (even if they do get sorted apart into groups, because assumably we’ll still have decks added that use all of the suits)
I initially thought of Sir Dadadoo being part of the Kingdom group but then i decided not to because i planned on "The Leech" boss blind
...i'm gonna be real that means nothing to me because i know nothing about banban
https://gartenofbanban.fandom.com/wiki/Garten_of_Banban_Wiki read up on here to get up to speed as the lore is quite extensive
(just don't go onto the fanon wiki)
unfortunately i don’t terribly have time to sit down and read lore for games i’ve never played (and generally don’t have interest in playing bc i’m not a psych. horror fan)
i like horror
4
aight
Sheriff Toadster, Bittergiggle, Syringeon, Sir Dadadoo
hmm something tells me choosing them is dificult
either i could have these and have the Sin Jokers and Rock Jokers interact with the suits in interesting ways
or i could have a different set of characters and have just one Sin and Rock joker
we want individual sin and rock jokers for every suit
aight
do you also want individual boss blinds
okay
i had an interesting Idea for a boss blind that disable the four at once
The Leech
but considering i chose Sir Dadadoo, it wouldn't make a lot of sense
we need individual blinds because otherwise The Leech would immediately kill runs with the banban set of suits lol
makes a lot of sense
time to go make each one reference a piece of lore in the games
I did start a suit sorting section at the bottom of the list document and categorized some of the more obvious sets
I gotta stop for now tho bc my brain power is low from illness
i feel like spade?s is a misspelling
oh yeah nvm. i'm just being a bit stupid
@wet tiger Your neptunia suit reminder
i am taking a moment to lay down and do nothing then i'll start on planeptunes
i am going to have nightmares of this design
i have caused those nightmares :]
crimson has caused those nightmares...
this thing is pure evil
its like all curves and diagonals and gradients and transparency
and would have never needed to be used if it weren't for me :]
i may slow down on these last 2 neptunia ones since they need stuff that i haven't learned how to do well yet
current WIP before i realized this isn't gonna work well for multiple reasons. i'll maybe just redraw it from scratch next time i try (probably day after tomorrow since tomorrow is a little busy)
Pixelator then clean up, that’s all lol
It can be a flat color if need be
nah i wanna do it properly. i'm joking when complaining about it, though it will take some time
Ah okay
danggg, thank you akai
was this pixelator + clean up by the way? i immediately assumed it wasn't cause it looks good and ime automatically pixelated stuff doesn't look this good but i'm curious if that would've actually worked
pixel8r yeah, that's what I use for quick jobs like this
I also use pixel8r for other small jobs, like for example I did the Balatrostuck legendary bgs using pixel8r and making a grayscale texture overlay
interesting, i'll try using it next time
it's a Substance Designer addon
also this is what those BGs look like
I use it cause like, there's literally no reason not to
i'll just use some random one online, would there be a difference in quality between that one and any random one?
absolutely
Just send me anything you want pixelated and I'll get it done for you
alright thank you
it's like, a proper refined plugin that I paid 35 dollars to get lol
it has 5 billion settings
danggg
like, the first edition of the plugin was specifically developed for Ultrakill by ActionDawg
since then it's sort of become an "industry standard" for retro textures among quirky retro boomer shooter spheres
it saves a lot of time
i'm gonna do the other one that i was struggling a little with myself tho cause its just basic stuff i need to learn, that icon was too much for me to learn at once tho so i'm thankful you did that
what are the effects for the new suit rocks jokers
Titanium Quartz (Uncommon)
When scored, cards with Suits suit have a:
1 in 4 chance for +50 Chips
1 in 4 chance for +7 Mult
1 in 4 chance for +$1
1 in 8 chance for X1.5 Mult
I had an idea with Wild Cards before but now with a Wilds suit that idea doesn’t make sense
if the idea is different than the wild suit one then it should be fine
Yeah but now I like this idea better anyway
nice
btw what are we doing for the deck view icons? i think they're larger than the playing card icons?
Daily reminder as you asked
666
taking today off, but i will probably make the playing card and corner icons for planeptune later today cause small = easy mostly
still need to make 2 more suits for the wild/card suit set, almost definitely bonuses and then maybe (the spectral) souls?
new rock if u can use this
ooooo!!! what rock???
dendritic agate :)
epic
Maybe the Blue Cards' rock could be Azurite?
im going to make a request to feder when his online
which if accepted will solve the U.I issue
Minotaurs' Joker could be called the Labyrinthine Joker
small note about the ruby's/sapphire's
maybe include the emerald in their effect too
It's meant to be a Steven Universe reference
since all three are a reference to inscryption
Wait, how are they an Inscryption reference? -Curious-
Huh. Rubies and Sapphires are meant to be Steven Universe references with their info
And that's why the boss blind of Emeralds is called The Lars
interestin but i dunno,, the original intent was inscryption
Hmm. Then maybe we could carry that reference in the Tarots for them
true
batteries bones and blood are also inscyption
so maybe we can change the batteries tarot to the robot and make it a p03 ref
Maybe. I at least know that Blood is a reference, because that's how many sacrifices you need to make in order to play it
Inscryption :]
Maybe Serpentine (D6's gem/stone) could make it so that D6 suited cards have a chance to trigger all probability effects, no matter what? (Like Bloodstone's ×1.5 Multiplier, Bismuth's 1 in 10 to become Color effect, etc)
On a different note, are y'all fine with me potentially including these cards/ideas in a custom character of sorts I'm making for another game?
what do you mean?
First, have you heard of a card game called Villainous?
yea
Well, in short, I'm making a version of Balatro as a villain in Villainous, and I was tempted to bring in modded cards as potential 'add-ons' for the villain itself.
no but i get the gist now, yeah i'm fine with it but ofc i only did 2 suits
generally i don't mind anything i do being used
i didn't really do any of the ideas stuff, but i also don't mind
if you don't include rock jokers then 90% of this mod is art
I'm going all out with this custom I'm making, so I'm trying to bring in as much as I can feasibly handle (which is a LOT). XD
You'd previously suggested Tourmaline as the Suits stone joker, do you want me to change it to be Titanium Quartz?
Yes
We already assigned that art to it
Oh shoot, I missed that
Just being curious, what do you think of this idea?
I think it's a fun idea, though I worry it could be too powerful
I did put it down on the doc but I'm also realizing the number of jokers that have probability-based effects
Out of the list we have of stone jokers (both already in-game or planned) there's already 10 of them
And there's definitely quite a few more that aren't stone jokers as well
Hmm. Then maybe Serpentine could have a chance to turn played D6 cards into Lucky cards?
That seems fair
Then there's Azurite for the Blue Cards' stone/gem and the Minotaurs' Joker likely being called the Labyrinthine Joker
I put those down as well
I think I've managed to rescan through this thread and pick up all the stuff I missed while not available
Alrighty. As for what the Dragon Breath Opal could do, maybe it could turn Minotaur cards played but not scored into Stone cards?
I did see that the gem suits are apparently inscryption things as well which i didn't realize lol (edit: idk how that entire word got removed from my message lmao)
Well, we can reference Inscrypyion in the Tarot cards while still keeping the Steven Universe references
fair
Albeit, I have not seen that much Inscryption besides the starting section, so IDK when those gems start being used
I know absolutely nothing about Inscyprtion so
So I guess we're both in the blindness boat. XD
Yupp lol
Maybe the Red Cards could have Sunstone as their gem/stone?
Sunstone is put down for the Flames suit atm
Ah, ok. Then maybe either Garnet or Rhodonite?
I'll put both down for now :P
Also, what're Planeptunes, Lastations, Leanboxes, Lowees, Luas, and Mandelbrots supposed to be?
first 4 are from neptunia
Lastations, Leanboxes, Lowees, Planeptunes are all references to Hyperdimension Neptunia (idk anything about it)
Mandelbrots are a kind of fractal
and Luas are a programming language I think?
Weird. I think I have an idea for Nobodies- What if their stone/gem ability was that their cards were unaffected by Boss Blinds?
For example, they can't be face-down from Wheel or House, can't be debuffed by suit-specific Blinds, and possibly even being unable to be selected by Cerulean Bell
I was gonna say maybe they aren't able to bypass the Finisher/Ante 8 Blinds just so it isn't too powerful or anything
But the rest seems reasonable
Fair point. Don't need Nobodies soloing Verdant Leaf without a single sell. XD
Yeahhh lol
As for Nopes, maybe they have a chance to be returned to your hand after scoring, almost like they're saying 'Nope' to being discarded? XD
Sure lmao
the language balatro uses yes
Nulls could potentially have Basalt as their stone/gem
part 2
Emerald suit is currently the only suit on the whole list without a Sin Joker :0
And Tulips
Tulips have Blooming Joker?
Oh, there it is. Had to refresh. XD
ah lol
Hmm... Have we already hit all seven deadly sins?
mountainous joker?
All 7 are claimed by the base game plus the Six Suits and Musical Suit mods
(also I lied, Luas don't have a sin joker yet either)
i can't tell if this is a minecraft joke on purpose or not but that's the reason i'm taking it lmao
Ah, ok. Hmm
(and also Fleurs. damn i'm blind.)
it was on purpose
Fleurs could possibly just be straight forward with the French Joker
one indexed joker for luas?
yay
🎉
Nice! Now its time to figure out the stones and gems
claymores!
Maybe the Jimbos could have Pyrite / Fool's Gold?
Pyrtie is with Cubes
sin joker would be knockoff joker
sin jokers are no longer completed 😔
D'oh!
sin jokers are completed!
Braveheart Joker for Claymores
too late
.
D'oh!
D'oh!
The Braveheart could be the tarot tho
That works, too!
FREEDOM!
Selenite for Satellites, maybe?
The main one that's stumping me for gems/stones so far are Soda, Square, and Puzzle
…i was gonna list out jokers that still need gems but its more than i realized
Carbon for Soda?
Because Carbonation?
That could work, but is there solidified carbon?
idea:
Steel for swords and Cast Iron for claymores
could also go with gold and pyrite
gold and pyrite are claimed so i'll do steel and cast iron
could really be any gem with a knockoff
Heartless could 100% have Coal/Charcoal to fit the color scheme of them
claymore can have steel bc then the ability could be to make them have a chance to be steel cards
i mean. i guess kinda but
a lot of the suits are sorta adjacent to other suits already so it'd be weird to make that the entire joke for this one specific suit
we have both Fires and Flames, for instance
yeah i guess
Maybe one between Swords and Claymores could be Tungsten?
oh yeah i wanna make the suggestion of changing batteries tarot from The Lightning to The Robot
as batteries is already a reference to inscryption
and having p03 ref would be badass
Fair point. Maybe Claymores could have Iron
i liked steel for claymores because it lends itself to a relatively straight forward to a respective ability
wait so how many of the fucking suits are inscyption references because i thought it was just the three gem suits
Fair point. I was just thinking of Iron, since that's typically what claymores were made out of
fair
blood bones and batteries too
HUH
yeah
god i'm so uncultured i didn't clock any of those
Me neither
i guess that makes another set of suits relatively easy to pull together
well only kinda
emeralds blind is an steven universe reference and its sin joker is a mc reference
well i already had the three gem types in a set because i was assuming someone could just make a fourth gem suit (before i knew they were a reference)
yeah
but a fourth for Blood, Bones, Batteries, ___ would make a very simple set
pelts or teeth then
Makes no difference to me because I don't know squat about the game lmao
Probably Teeth, since that's very easily found in the first 'phase'
in act one, teeth are your "health"
whichever one someone wants to actually make the template for lmao
pelts are a passing mechanic
alr
Do we already have Brass down for one?
i'll just put down "pelts or teeth" until a render gets made
nope, Brass is open
Then maybe we could make Cogwheels' gem/stone Brass?
As for its Tarot, maybe 'The Industry'?
that sounds tarot-y enough lol
Either that, or just 'The Machine'
(not that many of the added tarots sound very tarot-like as is lol)
either or ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Meanwhile, I'm trying to search up 'holy gems' for Crosses
fair, that's one of the ones that was just me trying to fill whatever spaces i could off th etop of my head
The Minute, maybe
shrinkage can absolutely be removed if a better idea is given
Emeralds' Tarot could just be called 'The Trade' to complete the Minecraft reference
eternals could have The Infinity
added and added :P
Fires could maybe be The Wild, while Flames might be The Warmth
The Wild kinda overlaps with Wilds suit
If anything, for the Tarots, I'm thinking with a dramatic mindset. XD
It was meant more like 'wildfires'
It could also be The Inferno
The Blaze?
i mean, i get it but it is still the same word regardless 😅
both of those are good tho
Euros could have The Poultry
I have an odd idea for Euros, but IDK if it'd work- The Revolution
LOL
XD Same brain cell
Revolution it is then
D6s could have The Gamble
well no wait now i wanna know what you were gonna say
wouldnt that be better for Fleurs
The Monarch
made it “the gambler” since a lot of the normal tarots are people
(Emperor, Fool, Lovers, etc.)
Fair point. Also, I just went through the WEIRDEST sense of Deja Vu ever...
oop?
interrobangs could have The Confused or The Afraid
It feels like I've been through this before and even saw that exact same message just last week, yet I know I haven't
i like confused
huh, wack
Crosses could have The Belmonts for a Castlevania reference
Crowns could maybe have The Prince
Earth... This'll be an interesting idea I had, but 'The Creator'
or The Hallowed
That works, too
i’ll put both for now
Heartless is another odd case, but maybe 'The Organization', to reference Organization XIII
Or even just 'The Thirteen' could work
I love inscryption :0
Honeycombs could have The Queen (for queen bee), and Hourglasses could have The Timer
well apparently we have 6 inscryption suits in here rn (with at least one more on the way)
:]
And we'd much appreciate the help with getting ideas for the referenced to make with them
Jimbos would be interesting- The Reflection
well all that’s left for the inscryption suits as is would be the Tarot for bloods I think
dagger
And the Tarots for Ruby/Sapphire
(oh also the tarots for rubies and sapphires ig)
jinx kinda lol
XD What do you think of 'The Reflection' for Jimbos?
batman as the blind :]
That's what I'm having my mindset in
…for?
jimbos
OH
Keys could have a more dramatic feeling as 'The Answer'
it just hit me what the joke is lmao
you foiled me again batman
The Wracked could be for Ls, as if you were 'wracked' with grief from the loss
Luas and Mandelbrots, IDFK
mandelbrots has me scanning the wikipedia page for ideas lmao
Hmm... Now I actually have a bit of a realization- The Thirteen / The Organization could also work for the Nobodies, because everyone is Organization XIII is a 'Nobody'
So would it be better with Nobodies instead of with Heartless?
Yeah, probably. I can't really think of anything specific for Heartless, since they're just cannonfodder enemies
ah
Maybe they could be 'The Swarm'?
then they should have the cannon
sure
Rooks could have The Castle, for the chess technique
Puzzles could 100% be The Jigsaw, and Satellites might be The Surveillance (or, if that's too long of a name, The Recon)
"The Heartstopper" and "The Strongman" maybe?
(goobies reference)
(if you saw me misspell Jigsaw three times on the list, no you didn’t.)
Which is for which?
rubies and sapphires, respectively
Shields could be The Barricade, Snowflakes have The Everfrost, and Seals could have The Declaration
Suits could be The Adept and Swords might be The Duelist
god i suddenly cannot spell anything right on the first try lmao
can you tell i'm sick rn?
i thought crowns was somebody elses mod
XD Tulips might have The Garden(/Gardener) and Waters could have The Purifier
...is it?
crowns got suggested and designed by someone in this thread
did they decide to make it their own mod?
Now that I think about it, Tulips could also have 'The Caretaker'
so put a * next to it
oh shoot that's the person that designed it while in this thread, i didn't realize they'd gone and made it their own thing lmao
i'll have to download that mod later and find out what the respective jokers/tarot/blind are
I can check it now, if you want
if you want too you can, there's no rush or anything to do it rn
Faster research means more focus on what we need to complete (in my eyes, at least)
that’s fair
What did you think of my ideas for Tulip and Waters, BTW?
Fun fact- I thought of 'Purifier' because of Water's typically restorative properties
oh i thought it was because you put water (or similar stuff) into air purifiers lmao
There's a reason why water magic typically heals. XD
Now for Squares, Spanners, and everything inbetween...
Spanners could be The Toolbox
okay quick question are you telling me you're making six hundred unique tarot cards for each suit???
well we don't have 600 suits yet lol
For Crowns, they have the following/
Joker: Jealous Joker
Tarot: The Sword
Blind: The Guillotine
The Euclidean for squares
good
Red Cards could be The Abandoned while Blue Cards could be The Progressive
i get that it's because of the relations to discards/draws but putting "Blue" and "Progressive" in the same sentence lowkey sounds like political commentary guhijdekfrwioeghrbfek
XD That's not intended. Anyway, Cards themselves could have The Dealer, keeping to the whole 'person' theming
fair
