1.0.1c Experimental

[livid lantern]

Esp with an x mult

[manic canopy]

THE ERA OF BLOODSTONE

[stable knot]

oops all x2s

with the hanging chad buff too

[fading jacinth]

It's all fun and games until the Head appears

[dim parcel]

new investment tag is VERY strong

[mild crane]

goddamn

[hushed grotto]

LMAO

[manic canopy]

yeah

[dim parcel]

this is actually pretty low

[manic canopy]

absurd

[wide grove]

investment did not need the buff

[manic canopy]

it could be $20

and that'd be a fine buff

[snow wagon]

Bootstrap

[coarse fable]

localthunk do the buffed two pair jokers not apply to full houses? trousers triggers when full house is played, but I just played a full house with mad joker and didn't get +10 mult

[manic canopy]

$25 is an overkill im not complaining about

[dim parcel]

It did tbh

[stable knot]

easy, make sure the head is boss 1

[frail belfry]

can anyone else confirm? I'll check too

it should work

[dim parcel]

oops I lost

[wide grove]

LOL oops

[fading jacinth]

That's exactly what I'd hope to see if I want to build around a single suit.

[coarse fable]

just played a second full house, mad joker still didn't trigger

[manic canopy]

oops all losses

[snow wagon]

Mad world not having the plant is so nice

[stable knot]

when I was gilding the magic deck if I saw the first boss is a suit boss and I was offered the tarot for that suit I took and duped it without hesitation

[tired canyon]

$15 to $25 is crazy OP. Too strong IMO

[dim parcel]

old investment tag sucked I think its fine

maybe 20

[half light]

Yeah i don't know about the investment buff

[tired canyon]

$20 seems better to me

[manic canopy]

it can be $20 and i think that'd be a nice middle ground

yea

[snow wagon]

It should be 21

[mild crane]

it didn't work

[half light]

should be 16

[coarse fable]

yeah being able to auto get an extra $5 per round is crazy with one skip

[half light]

should be 17.4 actually

[frail belfry]

confirmed as well - it's a bug I'm on it

[mild crane]

yippee

[raven vapor]

uhh yeah that's a good first run

[snow wagon]

Question about vampire: if I play 4 hearts and a stone card that was a heart, should vampire turn my hand into a flush

[hardy rock]

free E score

[hoary notch]

no

[hardy rock]

Before it would not effect played hand

[tired canyon]

Was Vampire really that strong? I'm an ante 8 player and the nerfs really surprised me. Was it mostly to nerf endless mode scaling or something?

It's basically unpickable for me now I think

[snow wagon]

Vampire was comically broken

It was an instant pick

[tired canyon]

In a normal ante 8 gameplay or in cases for pushing high scores?

[snow wagon]

Ante 8

[hushed grotto]

Vampire is much worse in endless than it is for ante 8

[mild crane]

in normal ante 8 gameplay

[spring juniper]

The new Clever/Mad joker does not proc on a full house

[mild crane]

yeah we know

[spring juniper]

ouf

[manic canopy]

the negative tag making the card free is prolly the best tag buff this patch

[frail belfry]

The changes were pretty much all around ante 8 and below

[half light]

Noticed the changed 8 ball art

[frail belfry]

I didn't do much for endless

[half light]

purpleness rocks

[fading jacinth]

Vamp was in my first Gold win and my Cruelty win.

[dim parcel]

seance/6th sense uncommon helps for endless

[frail belfry]

Vampire was probably 2X as good as it should have been

I know it's a nerf but IMO in current state it's still good

[stable knot]

vamp was in my Bram Poker win

[dim parcel]

vampire is also boring good

well was

[snow wagon]

It eating non scoring was so snoozer

[dim parcel]

for sure

[manic canopy]

noooo

[coarse fable]

Yeah vamp with the right combo is still broken. e.g. vamp + midas + pareidolia is still

[manic canopy]

stuntman nerf

https://tenor.com/view/hamp-hampter-sad-hamster-tiktok-hamster-gif-9932188723966404247

[spring juniper]

If you get a lot of tarots, with enhancements that don't mean anything, vampire is good

[tired canyon]

It looks like overall chip jokers got a net nerf, and they were already lacking somewhat in terms of # of them

[spring juniper]

but...I like having enhanced cards

[tired canyon]

But the nerfs to the chip cards that were nerfed makes sense

[snow wagon]

Odd Todd is S tier now

[frail belfry]

What chip Jokers changed? Stuntman, odd todd, hiker?

anything else?

[snow wagon]

Banner

[mellow ice]

My first impression is that Golden Ticket will still be underwhelming. I personally think it should add some mult for each golden card as well, to make it more than a econ joker for decks that already have econ.

[fading jacinth]

Now we probably also need Splash

[frail belfry]

right banner

[dim parcel]

why banner and not blue?

[hardy rock]

Even though I think these new tags are too op, It is VERY NICE that i actually get to consider to take tags early now. Maybe it should be half price instead of free???

[hushed grotto]

yeah banner nerf without blue stake change is weird

[dim parcel]

blue joker felt stronger than banner in gold stake on 1.0.0

[tired canyon]

Runner is better now though indirectly, with straight buffs

[hardy rock]

like look at this its rediculous

[coarse fable]

free helps in the early game a lot

[manic canopy]

ooo

[mellow ice]

Also banner feels a little bad, it wasnt great past blue stake yeah. More of an issue with the stake though

[livid lantern]

I mean banner is basically only viable on red dexk

[snow wagon]

It was stronger on any stake past the -1 discard

[livid lantern]

Rn

[frail belfry]

I just ask that you try the updated game out before judging - there are a lot of changes it's impossible to simulate how it all shakes out without testing

[dim parcel]

thats true

[dim parcel]

my feedback from getting another highcard win is that blue joker might be a bit overtuned still haha

[mellow ice]

I mean I don't think high card decks shouldnt exist, they just shouldnt be the far away best option.

Which these changes are good for

[dim parcel]

agreed, but I feel like the banner change without touching blue joker feels strange

[coarse fable]

Really like the straight buffs so far! I had a purple stake run that actually felt viable with straights without the order, just through the extra mult from saturn

[dim parcel]

its not a huge deal at all tho

[fervent beacon]

Saturn used to be like this

[jade horizon]

How were straights buffed exactly?

[eager yoke]

blue seal change seems pretty nice, almost like a burnt joker but for any hand you want rather than just your first discard

[stable knot]

planets buffs is the first thing that comes to mind

[hushed grotto]

Saturn

[snow wagon]

Planet cards, +1 hand size in gold, cheaper packs in orange

[jade horizon]

What was the planet buff?

[fast plover]

Kinda unrelated, but that's how I felt with cerulean bell
In the last demo, my sentiment was that the bell would be too annoying to be a good boss
Now, well it's still annoying, but not as bad as i thought it to be, it's an alright boss

[snow wagon]

More mult

[spring juniper]

Uncommon tag/rare tag's joker having a rental sticker makes it cost 1 dollar instead of 0

[stable knot]

clearer description on the shortcut is the biggest straight buff obviously

[mellow ice]

Yeah blue seal legit feels great now. Also a guaranteed way to get your prefered planet for observatory

[hardy rock]

A huge change is seeing the binds with the run info. That is sooooo nice

[little lion]

WOAH that ** hanging chad** buff WOAH

[snow wagon]

Saturn and Neptune got +1 mult

[stable knot]

I now want to try out hanging chad + photograph

x8 base mult from 2 common jokers

[manic canopy]

wait there was a hanging chad buff?

i missed it

[little lion]

woah that bloodstone buff what tha

[eager yoke]

hanging chad now triggers twice

[little lion]

I missed these two

[manic canopy]

oh my

[little lion]

and they’re insane

[snow wagon]

Straights have always felt weird cuz it was night impossible to modify ur deck to make them easier

[eager yoke]

bloodstone + oops all 6s is now a guaranteed x2 per hearts card

[manic canopy]

what happens when u don't have the money to pay for a rental joker? does it go negative or does the joker get debuffed or smth

[dim parcel]

you go negatvie

[manic canopy]

i c

[stable knot]

technically possible, but that would involve very specific modifying (e.g. a deck with only ten to ace would be better at straights than the standard 52 card deck)

[snow wagon]

Straights having no solid counter part to the suit tarots is odd

[frail belfry]

I wasn't worried about straights. In the september demo they were one of the meta hands because of Saturn scaling, it got a nerf and fell out of meta, so I knew a buff would make them viable

[winged cloud]

I took Hieroglyph after beating the ante 7 boss, before leaving the shop and seeing the ante 8 boss. when it rolled back to ante 7 I had a Finisher Boss Blinds(i got that name from the wiki idk if that's what blind 8 bosses are called) on ante 7 and again on ante 8. Not sure if this is intended. Seems like a glitch with the

• Upcoming blinds/tags can now be seen in the shop immediately after defeating a boss blind/cashing out

[frail belfry]

even without deck manip working to make them eaiser

[mystic oriole]

whats the reasoning behind the sin joker nerf?

[frail belfry]

The sin Jokers are all commons

and they were very good commons

[hushed grotto]

Yeah straights are not that bad already tbh

[eager yoke]

i imagine its hard to buff straights without indirectly buffing other hands, so i imagine the saturn buff will probably help straights

[mellow ice]

I think the golden stake change (no longer -1 hand size) is the real mvp for straights. They really needed that extra hand space

[hushed grotto]

The saturn + orange stake + gold stake changes will be huge for them

[stable knot]

I mean, shortcut was in that demo with the joker pool being smaller

[snow wagon]

I’ve seen the suggestion of making “fuzzy” cards which count as multiple ranks at once

E.g counts as a 5-6-7

[eager yoke]

there should be 2 new challenges for the new joker stickers, similar to the eternal challenge

[stable knot]

make wild cards count as any rank for filling in the gaps in straights, wild cards are kinda weak rn in my opinion

[dim parcel]

too complicated, not needed I think

[mystic oriole]

right now the sin jokers get as much mult as the abstract joker which can proc consistently though, the condition of needing a certain suit felt like a reasonable nerf for it

[eager yoke]

ie all jokers are perishable/rental

[south pendant]

i think the new mechanic stickers should appear in the corner if its not eternal, looks just a little out of place to me, 🙂

[hushed grotto]

i like straight builds working differently from flush ones tbh

[hushed grotto]

one better with planets one better with deck manip

[hardy rock]

looks like 4 wins in a row

[snow wagon]

Wild cards are weird cuz if you don’t go for flushes they are actively bad since bosses debuff them

[mild crane]

found new vampire

[mystic oriole]

although i do suppose the fact that they trigger in-hand which goes before stuff like steel cards is a reasonable counterargument

[dim parcel]

I lost on new vampire earlier lol

[mystic oriole]

now i get this nerf

[mellow ice]

Sin jokers still apply during hand counting, which is very important for e.g. photograph.

[dim parcel]

I got too crazy with skipping

[stable knot]

even if you do, you most often go for one suit and there are suit tarots which make 3 cards work for that suit's flushes instead of 1

[autumn egret]

well...lemme just say i'm really warming up to this patch. completionist++ feels so much better now hahahah

stuntman still feels bonkers

[snow wagon]

But yeah the sinful jokers buffing the mult mid scoring is very strong

[little lion]

I’m so happy I could weep, my 300 hours can become 500 now with these changes ty localthunk. I know this is over share but I lost my friend this week and balatro has helped a lot in many ways. thank you for your hard work and great game 💜

[eager yoke]

stuntman plus +1 hand size on gold stake lol

[snow wagon]

Works great with steel/glass/etc

[mystic oriole]

what exactly was the point with the bloodstone buff? was it just too inconsistent in normal runs?

[dim parcel]

I love bloodstone buff

[little lion]

who doesn’t love more heart in their cards?

[dim parcel]

its actually usable in endless now

[mystic oriole]

i do like the buff

[coarse fable]

bloodstone was crazy inconsistent without blueprint/brainstorm or oops

[mystic oriole]

i got my first scientific notation with bloodstone

[signal python]

I experienced the same bug. You're probably right about the cause

[manic canopy]

shouldn't the orange and gold stake effects be swapped? i feel like rental is a weaker effect than perishables unless im tripping

[autumn egret]

i think localthunk said earlier he'd rather have the stronger effect first

[dim parcel]

rental is devastating

[autumn egret]

correct me if i'm wrong

[dim parcel]

imo

[wide grove]

ok finally trying out orange stake w the patch

[manic canopy]

i see

[acoustic crypt]

thunk, how could you nerf banana. I'm literally sobbing rn

[dim parcel]

eating good

[manic canopy]

banabna

[autumn egret]

banana literally inedible

[eager yoke]

technically not a nerf to banana, but a nerf to cavendish

[manic canopy]

perishable sticker just makes everything edible

[mystic oriole]

honestly im fine with the michel "nerf" considering how i often take it for the regular mult and less often for cavendish

[wide grove]

i think u should be able to get cavendish if banana is destroyed by any means that isn't selling lol

[snow wagon]

If you bought banana just to not die it’s a buff

[autumn egret]

or if you bought it for completionist 😎

[eager yoke]

how do yall feel about the eris & ceres buffs

[snow wagon]

Is nice

[fervent beacon]

Saturn back to its former glory

[autumn egret]

i would imagine with packs being cheaper it's easier to tailor your deck to them

but haven't tried yet

[snow wagon]

Ouija buff

[livid lantern]

You’re eating the cards? Wtf?

[manic canopy]

its kinda like the food jokers in a way

[south pendant]

Bloodstone does not show the X2 pop up when it procs after the cards lose money on The Tooth

[mystic oriole]

ooh full house got a +5 chip buff

[snow wagon]

What

[fervent beacon]

I might have to revisit the ultimate bloodstone seed I found

[mystic oriole]

wasnt it +35 chips at level 1

[snow wagon]

No

[mystic oriole]

now its +40 chips

[serene drum]

vampire

[coarse fable]

nope it's always been 40

[mystic oriole]

oh

[snow wagon]

It was 4-40

[stable knot]

flush was 35

[serene drum]

Can rental put you into negative?

[stable knot]

and I think still is

[south pendant]

Ignore this, I think I got this wrong.

Still testing 😄

[eager yoke]

flush houses got a buff to their planet card, (+4 mult instead of +3), gives it a bit more of an identity compared to flush five

[round plume]

idk if there's somewhere better to put this but I believe the new Magician description should read "Enhances 2 selected cards to Lucky Cards" as opposed to "Enhances 2 cards to Lucky Cards"

incredibly minor but just to stay consistent with other tarot wordings

[autumn egret]

from what i saw earlier, he's changing it to "up to 2"

[round plume]

perfect that works too

just something i noticed, i see someone pointed it out now

[magic ether]

which one is better now - flush five or flush house?

[mild crane]

new vamp feels infinitely more balanced

[snow wagon]

Something I’ve wondered about red card, shouldn’t it get double buffed for mega pack skips

[eager yoke]

im curious as to what the changes were to some of the jokers were during the demos, unfortunately the wiki doesnt have this info

[hushed grotto]

you can take a card and then skip!

[snow wagon]

I know

[round plume]

planet for flush house gives you 1 more mult than flush five, but flush five gives you +10 chips

[mild crane]

vampire still feels pretty good

[stable knot]

when you skip a mega pack, do you skip 1 pack or 2?

[eager yoke]

the polychrome perishable ouch

[mild crane]

just not ass free win as it used to

[south pendant]

its just one pack

[mild crane]

I bought it right before boss so it was worth

[stable knot]

exactly

[serene drum]

do perishables disable forever or only for 1 round?

[snow wagon]

I was just figuring since it’s effectively 2 packs

[round plume]

yeah maybe red card could be "+3 mult per card skipped in booster packs"

so you can skip mega and get +6 or take 1 card and get +3

[serene drum]

dang

[snow wagon]

Don’t forget It counts tarot and planet

And buffoon

[eager yoke]

you can sell the disabled jokers tho right

[outer cypress]

yes

[round plume]

that wording should work for them

[south pendant]

unless its eternal 😄

[round plume]

booster packs refer to any of the packs

[snow wagon]

Oh I can’t read lmao

But yeah I agree

[stable knot]

onyx agate is effectively 2 gluttonous jokers, but it doesn't give +6 to the abstract joker
balatro is very specific with its wording, there are a lot of interactions where you first go "uh what just happened" only to understand what happened right after

[frail bison]

bruh why did every joker i see in this run have a sticker on it

[south pendant]

is eternal more popular in gold? or is it more popular after this update? seems more popular

[frail bison]

it is more popular because spawnable in packs

[snow wagon]

Before you couldn’t get stickers in packs

[south pendant]

right but every joker seems to have a sticker on it, even in the shop

[frail bison]

every pack i saw was like 2 eternal 2 perishable

yeah

[eager yoke]

eternal had a silver lining: synergy w madness + ceremonial dagger, but i dont think rental or perishable have such a silver lining

[wide grove]

getting shittons of eternals and perishables

[south pendant]

just my luck

[snow wagon]

It’s wheel of fortune all over again

[wide grove]

can someone clarify - packs can now give eternals and perishables, but judgement cannot still right?

[frail bison]

probably should be dialed down a bit because basically every run is now non-perishable challenge + half perishable half rentals

[glossy lark]

mad joker doesnt seem to be working with full house

[frail belfry]

30% chance for eternal, 30% chance for perishable, 40% chance for nothing
THEN I think it's 30% chance to add Rental on top of the result

[snow wagon]

It is known

[glossy lark]

ok good

[south pendant]

i havent gotten any from skipping for two uncommons either so i hope not

[frail bison]

so the chance of a stickerless joker is 28%?

that feels too low imo

[wide grove]

i think 25% eternal, 30% perishable, 45% nothing and 25% rental is balanced

[snow wagon]

Gotta compensate for cheaper packs and bigger hands somehow

[wide grove]

source: gut

[frail belfry]

Let's give it a test first!

These things need time to evaluate properly

[wide grove]

i will test the heck of this but can u quickly confirm my judgement q

before i hit the button lol

[glossy lark]

"finally gold stake got changed! let's give it a-" falls into a pit full of stickers

[frail bison]

savescum :)

[eager yoke]

it IS an experimental patch

[frail belfry]

Anything that gives a joker without you vetting it first will not give a sticker

[wide grove]

perf

so Actually judgement is pretty sic now

which was my suspicion given those %s

[eager yoke]

judgment & riff raff

[snow wagon]

Imagine riff raff and top up giving eternals

Lmao

[wide grove]

judgement is sicker bc u can still nab those rares/uncommons

but now those shop skips for rare/uncommmon, knowing gold stake stickerless is 28% shot, don't look so fun

so it seems fair

[eager yoke]

eternal rental perishable joker (i know these eternal and perishable dont stack but imagine)

[snow wagon]

And pinned

[native plume]

Sorry if someone else has already reported this, but I just had the new Clever Joker (+80 chips if hand contains two pair) not activate on a Full House.

[hardy rock]

Merry ann + water = actually 0 discards

is that how it always worked????

[snow wagon]

It is known

[wide grove]

my early feedback is i am getting a lot of money easily

[snow wagon]

Yeah and burglar doesn’t stop needles

[wide grove]

perishable is also tricky business bc some jokers really get hurt, some actually may benefit

[eager yoke]

what jokers benefit from perishable

[hardy rock]

oh, i thought burglar did used to stop needles

[wide grove]

well keep in mind they keep their sell value

(i think)

so after debuff u get some $ back

[glossy lark]

yeah i ended ante 1 with like 17 gold and one joker

[wide grove]

i gotta play around a bit

[eager yoke]

oh yeah scaling jokers are basically untakable if they have perishable

[snow wagon]

Just skip 🙂

[half light]

Egg rental is the best joker in the game

[wide grove]

also question

if you dupe a perishable joker via ankh, does new one reset to 5

[snow wagon]

Throwback stonks are up

[glossy lark]

nl is gonna be so happy lmao

[south pendant]

my guess is no, its a perfect copy usually for all other effects

[honest wraith]

btw i skipped for an uncommon and it wasnt free? if it matters the other joker in the shop was also uncommon

[snow wagon]

Also invisible *joker

[honest wraith]

probably known

[shell sparrow]

It did stop Needle yeah, because it's "on blind selected" (which is why it's BP/BS-able) so Needle triggers first, then Burglar triggers, while Merry is "+3 Discards", so Merry goes before Water

[hardy rock]

Ok, just double checking thanks.

[fast plover]

Is anaglyph deck gonna be busted with the new tag changes?

[elfin glade]

Don't you hate it when you have a potential triple Baron seed but despite 40 resets you can't find a way to win?

[raven vapor]

ok, new patch is amazing
first run was bloodstone flush, second was freaking hanging chad lucky cat

[snow wagon]

Maybe

[hazy turtle]

Just had a run pop off thanks to the changes to The Magician and Bloodstone. Lots of lucky cards and heart procs. Love these changes!!

[dim parcel]

feels strong rn

just got a crazy play off triple foil tag

[proper vapor]

where can i find the patch notes attachment?

[round plume]

#🧪・experimental message

[fast plover]

I would try it myself, but uhhh
Pc broke (why do fate be playing around)

[frail belfry]

tell me the truth - did spare trousers work on full houses before

[raven vapor]

yes

[coarse fable]

yes

[agile geode]

joker tags making the jokers free is a seriously good change, i cant wait to test it out

[fast plover]

Yea

[frail belfry]

Because part of the code was broken, don't know how it ever worked

[raven vapor]

is it getting nerfed for the theme

[proper vapor]

thanks

[raven vapor]

lmao

[eager yoke]

i mean someone can test it right now

[snow wagon]

Amazing

[deep lava]

yes but i would almost always never play full houses intentionally

[half light]

It did

[frail belfry]

Anyway I'll push that update right now, THAT one needs some testing for sure

[obtuse stump]

My reaction to patch notes

[fast plover]

The magic of
✨ coding ✨

[obtuse stump]

Wait

[snow wagon]

No

[obtuse stump]

Is he nerfing Spare Trousers so boats don't count?

[snow wagon]

What

[frail belfry]

Alrighty update live! Verify file integrity and it'll force update

[twilit frigate]

no they should count, and were, but the code was broken anyway so it was a mystery that it was working

[obtuse stump]

Whew

Something I loved about that card

[snow wagon]

Spare trousers should work with full house for the same reason the order and the tribe should work with straight flushes

[obtuse stump]

I can't type tonight and had a stroke in Vegas I think. Disregard my typing.

[raven vapor]

long text

[round plume]

at least there's no percentages

[deep lava]

does 4 of a kind trigger two pair now 🤔

[fast plover]

Diet cola op???

[deep lava]

probably no right

[twilit frigate]

we'll see after the patch, but it's not supposed to

[snow wagon]

Anaglyph doing 7x investment tags is one of the funniest things to see as the text spills off screen

[glossy lark]

it shouldnt due to 4oaks wording

[fast plover]

Two pair means two unique pairs

[eager yoke]

diet cola sounds annoying if u dont have a free joker slot

[frail belfry]

it shouldn't

[round plume]

don't think so, i think they were just changed to give two pair some love

[frail belfry]

but I don't trust my coding skills

[faint light]

will i still get achievements as normal using the experimental beta?

[snow wagon]

2 pair is worded as different pairs

[deep lava]

ah

[shell sparrow]

"contains a two-pair" on Trousers should mean Full House/Flush House is included imo

[round plume]

correct

[snow wagon]

They are

[frail belfry]

it should count both of those yes

[deep lava]

well a flush can in theory contain two pair

[snow wagon]

Yes

[deep lava]

and is not a flush house

[obtuse stump]

There are one or two nerfs I don't love but I'll probably survive.

[snow wagon]

A 2 pair flush buffs trousers

[round plume]

they never said flush couldn't be 2 pair

[eager yoke]

someone should see which of flush five/house scales better with the new ceres/eris change

[round plume]

just that full house and flush house should work too

[frail belfry]

anything that contains 2 scoring cards of the same rank and 2 more scoring cards of a different rank should proc those jokers

[deep lava]

just curious was there a reason for not making flush five +4 instead of +3

[snow wagon]

A flush with a pair in it procs sly joker for example

[deep lava]

not that it's major it just felt quite interesting to see mult buffs somewhere and chip buffs elsewhere

[pastel quail]

I second this question

[glass copper]

is there a reason why yorick uses the number 23 specifically

[frail belfry]

Now flush house and flush five have different flavour

[dim parcel]

ran this run like nothing's changed LOL

[quasi thistle]

is TDL giving $4 instead of $5 missing from patch notes?

[frail belfry]

yes

[eager yoke]

was the joker art for those two jokers changed so it has two pairs in them?

[glass copper]

well now im curious

[frail belfry]

twas!

[glossy lark]

im having a blast with new gold stake but i knew in my heart i had to make this

[eager yoke]

nice

[livid lantern]

Curiosity? We cant be having that

[snow wagon]

Is black hole not counting as a planet for the purpose of buffing constellation intentional

[frail belfry]

yes

black holes are not planets

[fast plover]

Are you sureeeeeeee tho

[livid lantern]

Black holes just suck in everything though

[elfin glade]

I thought it was for stopping Fool shenanigans

[dim parcel]

neither are dwarf planets technically :p

[eager yoke]

dwarf planets are just small planets

[snow wagon]

Shhhh

[livid lantern]

Arent planets just big dwarf planets?

[frail belfry]

They are a '...planet' though

[fast plover]

I wish black hole had an animation like the soul tho

[twilit frigate]

and planet X is a "planet..." :)

[snow wagon]

I was gonna bring up the dwarf planet thing but that’s such a 🤓 thing

[eager yoke]

does anyone have a screenshot of the mad/clever joker w the changed art?

[fast plover]

Planet X is real and valid smh

[elfin glade]

This update is peak

[twilit frigate]

PLUTO IS FAMILY THEY

STAY

[glossy lark]

is hanging chad triggering twice now just a buff or is it a cute subtle reference to the two party system

[snow wagon]

Hanging Chad should buff 4 times in Florida

[autumn egret]

lol

[frail belfry]

it double counts some votes 🙂

[twilit frigate]

😰

[fast plover]

Is that an American thing I'm too non-american to understand

[snow wagon]

Yes

[livid lantern]

Wait hang on

[frail belfry]

It's a reference to the 2000 presidential election

[livid lantern]

Shouldnt hanging chad only retrigger face cards

[frail belfry]

Please look it up on wikipedia if you're curious!

[glossy lark]

gwb scrambling to buy a copy

[snow wagon]

Sock and buskin in shambles

[livid lantern]

Since they are the only cards confirmed to be old enough to vote

[frail belfry]

How do we feel about new to do list?

[eager yoke]

huh, neat. was curious as to how it was gonna depict two pair, since the cards are tilted, and two pair in the planet cards r depicted w two ones + two faces

[dim parcel]

very good!

[snow wagon]

Not bricking with straight flush is nice

[fast plover]

Oki!
I just thought thought it was named randomly, or that it was referencing the gigachad meme somehow lol

[glossy lark]

it's not the "sell it when you get sf" card anymore so it's automatically better yeah

[snow wagon]

Can you get illegal hands with to do list if you play them

[glossy lark]

i think its only sf and under

[eager yoke]

has anyone done a SF run

[twilit frigate]

ye

[snow wagon]

Yes

[twilit frigate]

they fun but unusual

[livid lantern]

Where gerrymandering joker at?

[frail bison]

rare evab sighting

[spiral comet]

yes in my past 200 runs (1 run)

[autumn egret]

not on new patch yet, hoping to try tonight

[fast plover]

Like one
Which failed heh

[neon totem]

Odd Todd buff let's go

[snow wagon]

Straight flush on checkered is reasonable

[spiral comet]

i play anaglyph

[glossy lark]

skip meta real???

[round plume]

skips are far more valuable now

with the free jokers and incentive for perishable jokers

[twilit frigate]

triple throwback by ante 3 wtf

[serene drum]

these perishing jokers are starting to piss me off lol

is this really better than expensive packs?

[twilit frigate]

someone stop her she's throwing it back too much

[snow wagon]

Keep in mind there’s also less blind scaling

[glossy lark]

PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

[autumn egret]

expensive packs were really limiting

[glossy lark]

i absolutely love the free rares/uncommon skip tags, thats something i wanted but never expected to get added

as for the poly/foil/etc. thats even more unexpected

[round plume]

now that i think about it, it just kind of makes sense since everything else gives you a free something

[glossy lark]

i guess skipping is enough of a penalty

[round plume]

whereas before they were just rigging the RNG

[wide grove]

well, that's a sad way to end orange run

with the exact wrong boss blind

[eager yoke]

tbf, packs got less expensive due to the removal of the ante cost increase

[snow wagon]

That’s what they said

[wide grove]

looks like the balance is pretty good here though

the challenge level / decisionmaking felt about the same intensity as before with orange stake

and there was an extra degree of timing thx to perishable - i strategically skipped to make sure my perishable polychrome was available in final round

[eager yoke]

oops, misread lol

[shell sparrow]

though the rate of Eternal/Rental/Perishable in specifically Packs has felt high

[wide grove]

i really like the interaction of skips with high-value perishable in late Antes

[glossy lark]

i think making the stickers a little rarer but making the downsides more drastic could be a good compromise

[wide grove]

in ante 6, finding that scaling joker is an interesting choice now

if it's perishable

[autumn egret]

mm i'd disagree, hitting a sticker with an extremely punishing downside just feels like a wasted shop slot

[eager yoke]

yeah scaling jokers are harder to take now w perishables existing

[spiral comet]

ey cool pfp

[wide grove]

that's why my gut feel above is leaning towards keeping perishable hit rate higher than eternal hit rate

[glossy lark]

stickers should be common because its the ultimate difficulty level but theyre a little too common as is

[shell sparrow]

IMO making them rarer but only for Packs would be fine, even if it's like "no stickers in the guarenteed first Buffoon pack"

[wide grove]

^^

[vagrant kiln]

this might be dumb but I think Stuntman w/ 270 chips would be a good fit

[autumn egret]

stuntman still feels incredibly strong at 250

since you have an extra hand size on gold stake, the downside is a bit mitigated

[spiral comet]

i had a perishable poly stuntman

[autumn egret]

hahahah awww that's rough..

[wide grove]

in which ante?

[vagrant kiln]

yeah but 270 would be radical

[spiral comet]

ante 1

my run died when it perished from its stunts

😔

[wide grove]

LOL

[snow wagon]

Stuntman is still an insane card

And an instant pick on plasma

[autumn egret]

rip ante 1 perishable stuntman 😔

[neon totem]

Rare and Uncommon tags look like they're insane now

[vagrant kiln]

I think that's a great call

[wide grove]

except they can be eternal or perishable 🙂

[eager yoke]

especially in early antes

[vagrant kiln]

I never touched em lol

[autumn egret]

man i was so worried how this patch was going to feel at first but the more i play it, the better it feels

[glossy lark]

i know this is on ante 5 but still it makes me wanna cry

[autumn egret]

thanks localthunk, you're incredible

[spiral comet]

unless white stake (im playing on gold atm)

[wide grove]

ah. yes i forget this 😂

[snow wagon]

Stickers feel way more dynamic than the old stake difficulties

[wide grove]

see when i get perishables like this i don't feel so bad

[neon totem]

Huh

[eager yoke]

double perishable

[glossy lark]

its certainly more fun than old gold stake

[shell sparrow]

ok why is this a thing

[autumn egret]

is there a use case for top up tag anymore? what with better/more valuable jokers being so much more readily available

[spiral comet]

lmao

[wide grove]

perfect

[final field]

Stuntman catching hands is crazy 😭

[neon totem]

I mean, Rare/Uncommon tag is still skipping for a random, but it being free makes it very considerable now especially when you get a free blueprint

[snow wagon]

Twice as many jokers, they appear before the next blind, you don’t always get the others

[eager yoke]

to be fair, some food jokers can last beyond the 5 round limit of perishable, ie ramen, banana technically?

[shell sparrow]

it's the next eggternal

[snow wagon]

Top up applying to the blind right after you skip is very good

[wide grove]

NEVER

[autumn egret]

yeah i suppose it works as a last ditch effort thing

like if a banana just died and you won't make it to the next round

[snow wagon]

They also sell for money

[dim parcel]

top up also will never generate a tagged joker

[silent temple]

Help what’s the 23 for

[snow wagon]

Unlike free jokers

[wide grove]

perishable banana that never pops is sad

[dim parcel]

the free jokers do sell for money

[snow wagon]

Oh fr?

[autumn egret]

i had one sell for $1? i think

[spiral comet]

perishable gros michel = eternal useless banana if it survives 5 rounds

[dim parcel]

I just did it yeah

[glossy lark]

lucky cat and magician changes have me frothing at the mouth (in a good way)

[autumn egret]

we call this compost

[spiral comet]

(that can still be sold but very useful for sticker hunts)

[shell sparrow]

oh yeah true

[eager yoke]

if youre taking gros michel, youre really hoping for cavendish, so having it be perishable and not being able to have it go extinct sounds sad

[shell sparrow]

perishable stopping self destruct is great for stickers then

[frail belfry]

Use your google fu!

[silent temple]

Not great for cavendish sticker

[spiral comet]

wait

someone find perishable mr bones

[mild crane]

perishable scaling jokers make me cry

[glossy lark]

first run on new gold stake ended on a win, feels much much easier (despite my cracked build) i think money is far less of an issue now which i have mixed feelings on

[shell sparrow]

rental egg

[raven vapor]

you know what i don't mind rentals so much

what in the hell

[spiral comet]

sheesh

[mild crane]

'feels much easier' infinite xmult

[wide grove]

oh my

[livid lantern]

Rentals seem good in the late game if you have a lot of money

[glossy lark]

like i said, my build was cracked

[livid lantern]

You just want to avoid Ox

[shell sparrow]

hold on

can rentals send you negative

[mild crane]

yeah

[hardy rock]

you mean a free rental

?

[glossy lark]

WRAITH GAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hardy rock]

oh, into debt

[livid lantern]

Wait then rentals have like no reason to ever not pick up?

[autumn egret]

just as you asked lmfao

[spiral comet]

ooh

[shell sparrow]

I mean if you have everything you need there's no reason not to get a good rental

[hardy rock]

lol, gotta go fight ante 8 boss asap

[kind plover]

very cool

[autumn egret]

that being said i don't think i'll get to use it this run..

[livid lantern]

Yeah 100%

[kind plover]

slide the seed

🗣️

[eager yoke]

mr bones just being a one time use 4x multiplier changes my view of it lmao

[autumn egret]

lemme win first, i'll get back to you lool

[elfin glade]

Stuntman nerf still doesn't stop the power of moolah + Baseball Card

[wide grove]

yeahhhhh i reallllly like the new stickers

already getting my brain turning nicely in the new run

[livid lantern]

Stuntman wasnt hit that badly

[wide grove]

have eternal blueprint and only finding perishable cards 😂

[snow wagon]

Ehhh, you don’t get money for “winning”

[livid lantern]

But its still great

[glossy lark]

anyone else feel like vamp got hit a little too hard? i knew it was way too good but i feel like thunk gave my man the steel chair

[wide grove]

i didn't take an eternal vamp in ante 2 last game bc of this

[autumn egret]

you mean the silver stake 😏

[serene drum]

theres a bit of exploiting you can do by swapping between beta and live versions

[shell sparrow]

vamp dead tbh

[livid lantern]

Thunk poured so much holy water and garlic ontop of vampire they experienced sensory overload

[shell sparrow]

at least leave Vamp at Uncommon if he's gonna be garbage

[eager yoke]

we'll have 2 see w playtesting

[glossy lark]

i think making it rare/not counting unplayed cards/.1x mult were all fine nerfs if it was one or two of them, but all three at the same time?

[serene drum]

its better, he'll show up less often lol

[livid lantern]

Rare tag pool tho

[coarse fable]

Making it rare for the same effect it had previously

[south pendant]

shoulda nabbed it for playtesting

[coarse fable]

Would be optimal imo

[livid lantern]

Drivers would be better at that point

[wide grove]

i needed to get to gold stake lol

[livid lantern]

Wouldnt it?

[snow wagon]

Nah

Scales too fast and with little effort

[autumn egret]

he is here

[coarse fable]

So have it nerf played vs scored as well and be rare

[wide grove]

holy crap does that look good

[shell sparrow]

wait debuffed negative takes away the slot, doesn't it?

[autumn egret]

i know right, the negative makes him look so good

[shell sparrow]

it should based on Debuffed Foil/Holo/Poly

[wide grove]

NICE i was able to un-nerf stuntman

[livid lantern]

Wait perishables

Stay in hand?

[autumn egret]

lmfao he looks just as good as he always did

[livid lantern]

As negatives?

[autumn egret]

perishables don't "expire," they just become debuffed

[south pendant]

no you just need to sell them if you can

[livid lantern]

I know that, I was just curious about the negative effect

[south pendant]

they can be eternal and take up space

[frail belfry]

No Steam Deck enjoyers yet?

[livid lantern]

Since 1st SS it wasnt and then afterward it was

[burnt lichen]

eward

[teal ore]

i have not played new gold stake, probably won't, but imma be honest and say that i don't really like the new stickers in concept, cause for eternal sticker it was mostly negative but didn't mess with the jokers effect itself so you had to determine whether or not you'd want that one for the whole run, but also it had some unique applications for things like madness where you could do a little trolling and have something like madness and a bunch of eternal jokers, so while it was mostly negative it had some funny instances where it was a buff. the new ones are exclusively negative, which i understand for it being orange/gold stake, but i am slightly sad about it

[kind plover]

yap

[teal ore]

can you at least read it before saying that

[raven vapor]

this is a slight misunderstanding
rental is an incredible buff

[kind plover]

sure

[teal ore]

? hang on

[raven vapor]

it makes it so any joker you don't plan to use permanently become much cheaper

because you can take it for $1 use it sell it for $1

[coarse fable]

Yeah rental is really a neat mechanic. Forces you to think and plan a little more

[teal ore]

oh wait i misread

i thought it cost an extra dollar to get and then 3 per round

[kind plover]

read it

[teal ore]

it's 1 no matter what then 3?

[raven vapor]

nope, $1

[kind plover]

and now I am lost

[raven vapor]

example

[teal ore]

oh ok no so rental is cool

[granite helm]

Regardless of if rental and perishable are the best they can be, they’re wayy more fun than the old orange and gold stake

[south pendant]

flare just play the game and test it out

[burnt lichen]

100% i fucking hated the -1 hand size

[raven vapor]

true
i went 3/3 and every run was some wacky bullshit

[burnt lichen]

it's truly a MASSIVE drawback

[livid lantern]

If the update for it drops tomorrow I wont have time to test the new update before it drops

[autumn egret]

as someone who was also really hesitant about the changes at first, i definitely changed my mind after playing them. the hand size feels incredible on gold stake, and the rental/perishable changes - while impactful - feel like you have much more control over what will last in your run long term. highly recommend just trying a couple runs to get used to it

[teal ore]

i could, but 1. lazy and 2. wanna get there myself (i am far from the gold stake unlock and don't wanna use an all unlock file)

[dim parcel]

perishable is annoying but it forces very interesting interaction eg fuuuck this brainstorm is perishable if I skip every blind from now on will I survive or die to scaling

[snow wagon]

High card was king for many reason but mainly cuz other hands were just impossible lmao

[livid lantern]

I’d say orange stakes drawback was bigger

[coarse fable]

Gold was just not very fun beforehand for most of the grinding. And least now the grind can be kinda interesting

[crude cobalt]

idk -1 hand size is brutal

[granite helm]

And yeah you can’t give great feedback without actually trying it out

[livid lantern]

I’m pair pilled sooo

[frail belfry]

Please reserve judgement until you have tested the game a few times!

[silent temple]

We should have the jokers have bonus ability text that says “takes up 1 joker slot” instead of it just being a given

I have no ulterior motives behind this

[wide grove]

-1 hand size made a lot of decks nearly unwinnable

[dim parcel]

as someone whos tried it out perishable and rental are annoying but very interesting

[burnt lichen]

ture, it now has an interesting twist for added fun!

[dim parcel]

I feel like I have to relearn everything and I love it

[teal ore]

that is an exellent point. however we are on the internet

[snow wagon]

Old gold stake black deck

[wide grove]

@ localthunk - i am definitely feeling strongly about my % shifts i put above

[teal ore]

thus it is my duty to have an opinion without ever trying it

[raven vapor]

i actually had to think about taking vampire for once with perishable
amazing update 10/10

[wide grove]

the eternals are a bit fast and furious

[crude cobalt]

are you still able to earn achievements on the beta? id like to try it out but keep progressing

[eager yoke]

how badly does rental affect econ, in yours experiences?

[wide grove]

compared to the perishables

[dim parcel]

its pretty tuff, but econ is bigger overall

[wide grove]

eternals remove thought/management so there's less fun complexity/interactions; perishable introduces more

[raven vapor]

bad, but you still take it because eco overall is much better
todo list buff, mailin rebate buff, investment tag buff and all that

[autumn egret]

confirmed! got my gold sticker for chicot 😄

[granite helm]

Rental applies before interest so you gotta move those interest breakpoints up 3 bucks :)

[raven vapor]

and lucky card buff means you randomly just get $20

[wide grove]

eternal is just committing one time to a build and hoping u don't get screwed by it

[dim parcel]

Id maybe consider removing stickers from packs and leaving it at that tbh

[teal ore]

eternal adds it before purchase, perishable adds it after purchase

[wide grove]

perishable is a very strong mechanic, even though it doesn't nerf equally

[raven vapor]

i took hallucination and 3 antes later i was making $60 a round with fucking lucky card hanging chad

[snow wagon]

Ehh there are some early game jokers you would auto pick if not for eternal

[frail belfry]

imo eternal is the most interesting of the 3, but I do enjoy the other 2. Feels much more puzzly than before

[teal ore]

yknow what imma hit the beta anyway and try to get a lucky buil

[south pendant]

i understand that, i made a new profile for it. i have all my personal progress in the first profile

[wide grove]

that's what i mean - you still have to cut once

perishable is ongoing decisionmaking vs staring at the screen till you yolo

[frail bison]

teach me your ways

[wide grove]

that's a mechanic that's much less rote

[frail bison]

i had 10 lucky 9s and my econ was still cloud 9

[mild crane]

wowie

[dim parcel]

new hanging chad goes kinda nuts

[teal ore]

why isn't wild 2 max btw? tbh it feels like easily the weakest mod and now with lucky being 2 it really feels like lovers should be 2

[wide grove]

eternal tends to come down to - i am willing to commit to this build early (stuntman and vampire previously)

[dim parcel]

some things never change

[frail belfry]

Should stuntman be rare?

[mild crane]

double wowie

[autumn egret]

probably..

[coarse fable]

I am also finding that five card hands are much more reliable at gold stake, which is infinitely more fun

[frail belfry]

It's very good

[dim parcel]

tbh probably LOL

[raven vapor]

stuntman should be nerfed even more

[crude cobalt]

yeah probably

[teal ore]

on specifically plasma deck

[crude cobalt]

its still very op

[raven vapor]

i would insta take it even on 150

[wide grove]

probably but you can still hunt it w the rare joker tag

[frail bison]

stuntman nerf and other chips buff plz

[mild crane]

:3

[dim parcel]

this is interesting tho

[autumn egret]

hurts my heart to say that but 😎 guy is just too kewl 4 skewl

[raven vapor]

because you gave us back +1 hand size on gold, you might also consider making it -3 hand size

[burnt lichen]

revert to old stuntman

[dim parcel]

stuntman being rare is fine I think

[mild crane]

yeah

[dim parcel]

I think if its rare it doesnt need other nerfs

[granite helm]

I don’t hate stuntman as rare tbh

[coarse fable]

300 chips and it was rare would be good balance

[burnt lichen]

rare is.... fine

[crude cobalt]

honestly 250 and rare still probably fine

[dim parcel]

250 chips rare is fine

[autumn egret]

do you have to have a specific number of rares/uncommons for balance? i.e. do you have to swap an uncommon to rare as a result?

[dim parcel]

itll still be very strong as a 250 chip rare

[teal ore]

250 chips is good effective mult but at the same time leveling makes it worse

[snow wagon]

The question is what becomes uncommon if stuntman is rare

[mild crane]

i literally made thunk reconsider stunt rarity by posting a game screenshit lmfao

[raven vapor]

i don't care about the rarity, the problem was it's a boring chip solution
it's like if a card just said "+60 mult -2 handsize" it's basically that in chip form

[teal ore]

there's absolutely a point where it just becomes not worth it

[coarse fable]

Vagabond could go back to uncommon

[teal ore]

but it carries for like 5-6 antes

[frail belfry]

nothing needs to become uncommon as a result

[south pendant]

shiny egg

[frail belfry]

settle down now

[rose scaffold]

I can't keep up in here, but Jokerless feels like it shouldn't have a buffoon pack in the first shop

[crude cobalt]

eternal egg ❤️

[rose scaffold]

idk if that was mentioned

[autumn egret]

awesome, if that's the case i think stuntman would make a fantastic rare

[snow wagon]

My bad I assumed the balance between rare and uncommon was fixed

[dim parcel]

vaga is fine as rare

[autumn egret]

it's just so snap-pickable

[dim parcel]

its extremely strong

[crude cobalt]

arent buffoon packs disabled in jokerless?

[rose scaffold]

no

[teal ore]

yknow what imma try to rush gold/orange stake now

[crude cobalt]

oh lmao

[raven vapor]

although i wonder if it explicitly said "+250 chip is played hand is high card" would make it more interesting

[teal ore]

so yellow deck it is

[coarse fable]

I agree, just saying if it needed to for other balancing

[frail bison]

but you are playing hc anyway

with the man

[teal ore]

that's one hell of a start

[rose scaffold]

It's in the first shop for jokerless, but you can't do anything with them

[dim parcel]

this would effectively do nothing no?

[autumn egret]

i love the design of vagabond in that it drastically changes how you approach that specific run

[wide grove]

yeah tbh u can just reroll for this. the investment boost is waaaay too much imo

[raven vapor]

ye but sometimes you play pairs lol
also means you die to the eye now

[wide grove]

considering i'm ending up w a lot of money for other reasons

[mild crane]

lol lmao

[autumn egret]

maybe that could carry over to stuntman with the -3 hand size suggested earlier

[frail bison]

you are dying to eye anyway

[crude cobalt]

also id like to suggest eternal tag being a jumbo pack, its very not worth as of now

[granite helm]

That’s actually an argument towards upping the rarity, you’d see a less interesting joker less often, but it’d still be hype when you get it cause it’s strong (like the hand type rares)

[burnt lichen]

wait, so with 8 ball rework, will it get its old art back?

[dim parcel]

eternal tag?

[crude cobalt]

sorry spectral tag

[eager yoke]

has anyone playtested blue seals yet? how good is the buff

[raven vapor]

i feel like upping rarity doesn't really solve the problem of a boring card at its core though :v

[snow wagon]

Yes

[autumn egret]

i used one passively and it felt nice

[raven vapor]

very good, basically half a burnt joker

[eager yoke]

blue seals seem kinda insane now

[crude cobalt]

now gold seal is the weakest probably lol

dont think it needs changing tho

[mild crane]

oh boy

[snow wagon]

Isn’t it better than burnt in terms of reward

Cuz you can sell

[dim parcel]

the spectral and standard skips are quite undertuned

[autumn egret]

gold seal is still good due to rental changes

[eager yoke]

possibly even better considering you can freely use discards with your blue seals

[granite helm]

It’s okay if some jokers are boring - the game needs both to be healthy

[frail belfry]

Yall talking about stuntman?

I love me some stuntman

[raven vapor]

well, it's slightly less okay if a card is boring and it's a card that wins

[crude cobalt]

i think the - hand size is interesting

[autumn egret]

we need a stuntman emote

[granite helm]

Hence, rare

[mild crane]

no i'm just posting pics of a busted run

[autumn egret]

he's just so cool 😎

[coarse fable]

Yeah standard packs should up frequency of enhanced or editioned cards imo

[burnt lichen]

let's be honest, who doesn't?

[raven vapor]

eh, fair enough

[dim parcel]

rare would make stuntman less run dominating while still being run defining

[snow wagon]

The hardest skill part of stuntman is unlocking him

[silent temple]

Stuntman is my favorite conceptually

[foggy mantle]

banner nerf makes me sad tho

[eager yoke]

i still find it weird that the magician voucher just gives you completely normal playing cards in shop, kinda dilutes the shop

[dim parcel]

banner was probably too strong below blue stake tbh

[raven vapor]

yeah i actually wonder what warranted the banner nerf
it felt fine at 80 chips

[snow wagon]

Magician feels awful without hologram

[dim parcel]

but I also think banner nerf was unneeded

[snow wagon]

Planet voucher also feels sus without constellation

[crude cobalt]

yeah it is by far the worst

compared to how good like +1 hand size is

[dim parcel]

idk what youd do to change planet tycoon tbf

[teal ore]

yea stuntman is still absurd, one high card on ante 2 with that, bus and stencil just did 11k

[dim parcel]

I think its ok being kinda niche? idk

[crude cobalt]

planets are stronger?

[autumn egret]

that sounds like a crazy fun early game lol

[teal ore]

it is but no scaling time

[snow wagon]

Either way magicians legit feels worse than blank voucher lmao

[crude cobalt]

yea its almost a downgrade

[teal ore]

wat

[dim parcel]

yes magic trick is a downgrade

[foggy mantle]

has anyone tested out madness changes yet btw

[dim parcel]

same with planet merchant most runs

[crude cobalt]

do u have discount voucher?

[raven vapor]

madness feels significantly worse

[teal ore]

tea

yea

[dim parcel]

Ive seen 3 madness and they were all perishable LOL

[crude cobalt]

well there u go

[autumn egret]

lol

[raven vapor]

even if non perishable it's less growth for basically the same stringent conditions

[dim parcel]

yeah I think madness nerf is reaaally huge and not needed

[teal ore]

what is this earlygame

[ivory snow]

question: does rental change the sell price of a joker to $1 as well?

[raven vapor]

yes, so more campfire fuel

[frail bison]

that stencil will be useless af

[wide grove]

what i like about the perishable mechanic is that it is easily expandable w future updates

[teal ore]

nuh uh

[granite helm]

Temperance nerf 😋

[raven vapor]

i mean yeah lol

[granite helm]

Wrong reply

[livid lantern]

Yeah they will be flareon from pokemon

[granite helm]

Lol

[wide grove]

i.e. a card that has a certain effect, but makes a random joker perishable

[south pendant]

not so much a nerf if you dont want it eating a good card going into a boss

[wide grove]

there can also be spectral cards that only affect joker stickers

OKAY

[autumn egret]

oh that's kind of a fun idea

[fervent beacon]

if anyone wants to give bloodstone a test drive, I have an ultimate bloodstone seed in #1156061354076155944 with 2x bloodstone and 2x brainstorm with hack

[wide grove]

just beat red deck on orange stake. time to finally screw around w rentals

[autumn egret]

"peels all stickers off of a joker, -1 hand size"

[teal dirge]

I think the idea was that it was really good with Eternals

[frail belfry]

: 'I won't add any more mechanics to my game'
also : Perishable, Rental

[rose scaffold]

lol

[autumn egret]

lool

[fervent beacon]

loool

[south pendant]

keep em comin!

[teal dirge]

Mechanical complexity is cool though

[shell wharf]

thunk whatever you were cookin with the lucky changes YOU COOKED HOLY SHIT

[crude cobalt]

mechanics fun!!

[shell wharf]

WE LET HIM COOK ITS SO FUN

[eager yoke]

doesnt work in white stake, unfortunately

[wide grove]

looks like that statement... was perishable.

😎

[autumn egret]

ya that's true. also i shouldn't be talking about my ideas here

[livid lantern]

That joke made me 😦

[eager yoke]

add 30 more mechanics to balatro, then itll be perfect

[livid lantern]

Add an uno mechanic

[mild crane]

guysssss

[autumn egret]

does anyone see the sticker? where could it be?

[glossy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

oh no did i embed fail

[wide grove]

new mechanic: between rounds, you can play blackjack to affect your economy, but you have to use your existing deck

[livid lantern]

Embed fail!

[snow wagon]

New mechanic : losing a white stake run now applies perishable sticker to the player

[eager yoke]

arent we already perishable

[crude cobalt]

gold stake description doesnt mention the $1 thing btw

[snow wagon]

Makes you perish faster

[autumn egret]

man i hope i don't get debuffed in 5 days

[glossy lark]

hey boss i cant come into work today i got debuffed

[livid lantern]

New mechanic: theres now a traitor card you must get out before you lose

[eager yoke]

im already debuffed

[autumn egret]

you look like you're doing just fine to me, bud

[livid lantern]

And it cant be a face card

[autumn egret]

keep it up

[eager yoke]

someone needs to sell me, im debuffed

[snow wagon]

It’s the space joker

[wide grove]

"balung us"

[livid lantern]

I was on line with town traitor tos but I guess balung us works too

[raven vapor]

vfa, i'm eco

[livid lantern]

Scaling

[wide grove]

Ante 2 perishable golden joker, yummy

[snow wagon]

Rental golden joker

[wide grove]

i did have to double check lol

[crude cobalt]

most useless thing ever lmfao

[wide grove]

not eternal!

[livid lantern]

You can sell it

[autumn egret]

UAGI585Y sorry this took me so long!! lol

[crude cobalt]

why would i take tho its +3 -3

[south pendant]

thats like a savings account. get all the money back you paid into it after 5 rounds and sell it

[snow wagon]

Campfire

[cloud salmon]

temperance

[snow wagon]

Abstract joker

Swash

[autumn egret]

really fun run though

[livid lantern]

Canio gold? Thats kinda cool

[autumn egret]

yea he looks slick 😎

[mild crane]

HAHAHA YES

[snow wagon]

Does black hole juice a satellite to max

[mild crane]

lmfaooo

[frail bison]

no

[coarse fable]

No sadly

[tiny grail]

Hello Pig

[frail bison]

hi 69420

[livid lantern]

Wait thats not a number

[mild crane]

we windows

literally barely got the blueprint over the finish line

[wide grove]

i got a glass half empty seltzer

[crude cobalt]

btw if jokerless has no verdant, could golden needle also have no water

[rose scaffold]

I mean

[sage plaza]

well you can still use that fully dw

[vagrant kiln]

omg blue seal goes hard af now

[mild crane]

that's two decks orange staked and one golden staked on the new patch

[rose scaffold]

verdant makes jokerless impossible, golden needle is beatable with water

[mild crane]

it feels easier, but in a more satisfying way

[rose scaffold]

it's harder, but it's not impossible

[autumn egret]

let's goooo nice!

new patch has me even closer to ++

[mild crane]

damnnnn

[frail bison]

i mean verdant is also not impossible with jokerless

[frail bison]

which one ya missing

[rose scaffold]

moreso than water on golden needle though

[autumn egret]

literally just need shortcut and the tribe

[mild crane]

i'm slowly comin along

[mild crane]

oof lol

[frail bison]

tribe sad

[autumn egret]

lookin good!!! best of luck on the later challenges

[wide grove]

got damn.

[mild crane]

thankss

i've had some good luck with them today

[crude cobalt]

oh "now 5 was 3" was talking about the reward not buy price lol

[split ferry]

woah that sixth sense buff

[mild crane]

got a foil baseball and a satellite on blast off lmfao

[snow wagon]

Big buff wow

[crude cobalt]

yea its crazy

was already a really good card lol

[frosty pilot]

oh wooow

[fervent beacon]

perishable popcorn is the new meme

[snow wagon]

Rental eternal egg on top

[teal ore]

stuntman is still very dumb it's absolutely a rare in power level

[frosty pilot]

is eternal rental possible 💀

[shell sparrow]

perishable bean > perishable popcorn IMO

[fervent beacon]

perishable is going to take a lot of time to get used to

it's very annoying

[wide grove]

i keep experiencing the same tactical phenomenon - i pop a booster for buffoon, i see either rentals that i know are too expensive to take at early ante or eternals that i know won't scale

you want those considerations to happen but not this frequently or there will be a lot of frustrations

[teal ore]

wait how does it work if you can't pay rental

[wide grove]

perishable still seems to split the difference best

[teal ore]

does it just get deleted

[wide grove]

negative, baby

[teal ore]

ah

more debt

more vagabond synergy :)

[snow wagon]

The tooth but all the time

[forest bloom]

whyd to do list get changed? i liked that it would eventually get stuck on a near impossible hand

and then you'd just dispose of it

[snow wagon]

Cuz other people didn’t like that

Also to do on straight flush in shop is a troll

[forest bloom]

shrug

theres been worse

like seance lol

[fervent beacon]

I do agree that it was kind of funny

but it deserved the buff

[crude cobalt]

isnt the perishable chance supposed to be 30%? i swear i havent seen a single normal joker yet

[autumn egret]

just unlucky, unfortunately 😔

oh happy new day for EDT people

[snow wagon]

Wheel_of_fortune.jpeg

[merry sail]

to do list kinda broken now no? $20 in one round

[snow wagon]

If you get the right hand maybe

And get to play all 4

[fervent beacon]

i thought it changes when you play it and then also changes at end of round

does it not change when played at all

[merry sail]

oh ur probably right

[fervent beacon]

let me check

[snow wagon]

It shouldn’t

The wording says round only

[fervent beacon]

oh it's only $4 now

[forest bloom]

the friction was good friction. i'll miss it

[fervent beacon]

it's like a common matador rn, you either get a bunch of money in one round or you get almost nothing

I will miss it changing after every hand though

[wide grove]

argahrgarhagrhgh i have infinity dollars and reroll glut and still cannot hit any xmult

perishable obelisk 😂

so many things are unviable

[crude cobalt]

this buff might be a bit excessive 😭

[snow wagon]

Wait perishable obelisk could get pretty big

You could still end on 5x mult

[wide grove]

you could indeed