#1.0.1c Experimental
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ooh, exciting. cant wait to try the new gold stake
FLOWERPOT BUFF
yooooo flowerpot works through debuffs, I was really hoping for that change
YOO
- Changed Hiker - Now gives +5 mult to every scoring card played instead of +4 chips
WHAT
Awesome changes
stuntman got off scott free it seems
Holy moly
YOOO
yooooooyy
CRAZY TAG BUffS WHAT???????
I think stuntman being a little worse is fine
wait nvm
"- Changed Burnt Joker - Now is uncommon, was rare"
wasn't it uncommon before?
that hiker change is clinical.
I didnt scroll down
burnt joker is already uncommon yeah
Oops meant other way around
Localthunk I missed you
thanks
makes sense
Burnt joker is really good so that is understandable
Campfire nerf makes me sad, but makes sense. Campfire with good econ was broken
oh yeah no it can still be good imo
+30 / +3 YEAH
LFG
screw sleeping
Bloodstone buff though hell yeah
So I just got the free uncommon and rare tags, but they weren't actually free
HIKER?????????????
Saturn was already 30/3 yeah?
The nerfs are interesting
lmao zyru hi
HIKER IS +5 MULT?????????
HIKER OMG
Wasn't expecting most of them lol
Except stuntman ofc
yeah hiker is gonna be INSANE wtf
Hey benro:
The buff from 1 chip to 5 multi is insane, and much needed
Yeah the hiker buff is insane, without a change in rarity either
Hiker’s gonna be a really tarnation good pickup then
vampire was hit hard
lmao hiker
who need suits/smiley face
supposed to be +5 chips whoops
Like no matter what
BLOOD STONE BUFF?
LMAO
oh LMAO
lmao thunk
XD that makes sense
womp womp
ok PHEW
RIP CAMPFIRE
good idea for a modded joker
We could’ve had another stuntman on our hands
campfire went the way of obelisk
oh nice, swashbuckler buff too
still love to see the small hiker buff though :)
😭 😭 😭
RARE JOKER FREE FROM RARE TAG!
Campfire will still be strong 💪
free seances pog
man he removed the post
Campfire is still strong yeah but moreso on zodiac
So I see not all of the balance changes were stake related. Thunk saw us all breaking the game with certain combos and was like, Let's make that a little harder to do lol
hmm since when did odd todd give 30 mult
lol
Yorick rework looks pog
Oh gosh dang it odd todd
He won’t be sad anymore
huh, suit nerf is interesting, i guess fair?
And went “nvm thats pretty rad”
that's not bad
the hiker buff is crazy strong
I love the yorick rework
me too
thunk did an oopsie
I was almost mad at the Yorrick rework, until I saw it was per 23 cards
- Changed Stuntman - Now gives +250 Chips, was +300
yep
...hiker is +5 chips instead..right
yes
I will never experience old yorick lmao
Still haven't unlocked it
and i'm glad for that tbh
lmao would you like to add better empress to every card you play
Hanging Chad buff let’s fucking goooo
SUAS still exists pog
I still think that canio and trib are way better then yorick
Most likely, it counts for other discard jokers
yorick is actually pretty competitive now
I dont think thunk even knows of SUAS
however
triboulet worst legendary letsgo
?
*- Changed Fibonacci - costs $8 instead of $7, because Fibonacci
lol
There is one chage that has me 
So new worst legendary is chicot, but that can still see use
man vampire got NERFED holy hell
purple 8 ball my beloved
i honestly didnt think vampire was even that op
oh it was lol
i think all it needed was not working on unscored cards
Im thankful I got vamp gold sticker before
it was getting picked in gold stake on ante 1
New 8 ball, nice
💯
now it's not as broken
Eternals in Buffoon packs is 
time to run gold stake back
That was a bug - it was always supposed to be in buffoon packs
some of these changes seem kinda random
It absolutely was
Also question for perishable jokers
If you were to run a run with a perished joker disabled on gold
Would that sticker it?
🔥 I love gambling
hopefully 🤔
OH WAIT I MISREAD YORICK
👀
Yeah magician needed a buff
Wait that is a weird buff to Gold stake... in some cases on some seeds you can get a joker for $1 which you couldn't afford otherwise
YORICK IS REALLY GOOD
Awesome patch, some needed buffs, some needed nerfs, amazing to see all the changes made
it makes scaling jokers less broken
Flower pot working with debuffed cards NICE
canio and trib still better though but its a good change
that thing might actually see play
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- Changed Vampire
- now only removes enhancement from scoring cards
- gives X0.1 mult per enhancement instead of X0.2 mult
- Rare instead of Uncommon
- Changed Vampire
ayah.
But I must ask: the Red Card joker, do you think it needs a buff of some kind?
continuing an "already" started run
i have old gold stakes effect lmao
I feel Yorick will be like Canio but with less variance
you might have to choose constantly bleeding money to keep a scaling joker
it adds up
HANGING CHAD BUFFS???? wow, its a christmas miracle
triple nerfed holy
but....deserved?
do rental jokers put you in debt?
i dont think it needs to be rare on top of that
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- Changed Orange Stake
- Scrapped increasing pack cost
- Added new 'Perishable' mechanic, Jokers have a 30% chance to have a 'Perishable' sticker, disabling them after 5 rounds
- Changed Orange Stake
this... is interesting
flush jonkers nerfed Nooooo
ok actually i don't know if i prefer old orange/gold or new orange/gold
this new gold stake might be harder
Bloodstone is now going to go hard with oops all 6s
orange stake being different is a massive indirect buff
And Murphy will now use Swashbuckler
oh wow bloodstone makes hearts OP now
campfire nerf, vampire nerf. campfire vampire. they rhyme. Connection?
Oh yeah @acoustic crypt check out the patch notes :)
yeah the suit commons and onyx agate being nerfed is a bit weird
stuntman doesnt rhyme with campfire last time I checked
I suppose they're really small changes and they'll still be good tbf
Stuntman does rhyme with campfire
Vagabond is restored to his former glory and is given the proper ranking
Getting ready to go live to look at it lol
was campfire THAT insane to deserve that level of nerf thats wild
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- Negative, Polychrome, Holo, Foil tags all make their respective joker free
wait what dus this
it kind of was
i think so yea
campfire got WHACKED holy heck.
100% yeah
campfire was basically autowin
Gros Michel is now going to stick around a LOT more than usual
tags are the skip tags you get
like with any eco
still probably useable but its a shell of its former self
Campfire is still good, but holy jesus
at least it only got nerfed by 50%, obelisk wasn't so lucky
All the buffs to the tags are INSANE
Absolutely
dang, was hoping the Reduced Motion would still use a colored background for each boss
free jokers everywhere
i guess i just never saw it often enough lmao
not in this update but in the demo
It should!
if not that's a bug
Anaglyph deck with all negative tags will be massive
Blood stone doesn't need 2 oops all 7s to be gauranteed. Wow, that's really really nice.
Ah okay I'll push another update in a sec
i guess that's still yellowish,just hard to see
Hiker....is now probably the best joker for high stakes ever.
Anaglyph deck would become best way to farm gold stickers yeah
the +5 mult was a mistake
it's just chips
ok why is the bg pitch black lol
Hiker was a typo
😔
I’m very sad at my favorite joker stuntman being nerfed
||I have never used stuntman but it’s my favorite somehow||
I and many others use the bright yellow background to remember to play 5 cards :P
oh. chips.
stuntman is still autopick at 250
thank god for stuntman getting nerfed. its still strong tho.
thunk can nerf it to 200 and it's still autopick
Stuntman was stupid enough to carry runs, it still can but not as many
I'm guessing you can still sell disabled jokers
yes
perishable is honestly worse than rental
here we go fam
unless it's eternal perishable
i feel like they should be switched
yeah though I assume you can get a Perishable Eternal
i would imagine yes
I think rental is the last one because it can stack
to do list is now as valid as I always knew it was
from the screenshots
wow swashbuckler gaming now
also because Gold color
what a meme joker

it's perishable AND rental though - I don't think the order matters that much, i prefer the harder layer first
true
Lucky Cat gets even better with the new magician buff, one of my favorite jokers
LMAO
OMFG i need to get this so i can change my avatar
imagine getting an eternal perishible rental.
Sixth Sense and Seance no longer eat up the rare joker tag, but Vagabond and Burnt Joker do, which is how it should be
And Vampire
Did nobody comment on the guaranteed Buffoon pack in the first shop of every run?
and now space joker isn't completely outclassed
Im just glad SUAS wasnt fixed
Oh that
That's one of the bigger changes
That's the best thing for high stakes
Yeah thats tarnation sweet
Thats a great consistency change, yes very nice.
ikr
Still net positive with temperance :copium:
oh holy crap
instead of hoping for jokers, now you are ENSURED jokers
alright time to grind for a 30 streak
along with most of the expsneive jokers coming down in price to 8, very good
I thought that said 30 steak
ah jeez
I would have, so nice for starting consistency
also getting a black background onthe title screen btw
So now the pareidolia midas mask vampire build will require splash to be half as busted as it was
Buffoon pack first shop feels nice 👍
Yeah with the reduced motion setting right?
What would you expect?
Thank you, Zodiac Deck is less painful to play now
ok avatar updated
Perkeo made it out unscathed???? Im so happy
I'll miss the hilariously busted vagabond tho LOL
i can still do naneinf
it looks like infinite money glitch is gone tho
Yorick buff is huge, now he goes hard
I really like vampire only working on scoring cards
unless I misunderstand how it works, since the fallback is strength
Makes it less good on high card (unless splash)
Invis joker buff is insane too
I mean, vaga is still good
vaga technically got buffed just rarer
just rarer
Wow I actually predicted stuntman nerf correctly in #🎙・server-chat
true true
LOL
yeah campfire naneinf is dead 😔
lmao
biggest buff by far for sure
I think maybe vamp is a bit overnerfed? 0.1x and scoring only hurts a bit
I was at one point theorizing that the blue seal buff would be that you'd upgrade the hand you just played if at least 1 card in it had a blue seal
yea, I don't think the rare tag works as intended
THE LEAKS WERE REAL
yeah it seems quite bad now without some kind of huge tarot engine
yeah i wonder if vampire only needs some of the three nerfs
8 hand size on gold is so weird
i REALLY like the only scoring cards one though
what is this game
Balatro
Only way to tell is to test! I think it's more in line now
it was deffo too strong
overall this patch is defintely looking gooooooood.
Bram Poker is no longer free lol
This is so sick, so many higher stake runs get bricked cuz no jokers in the shop
ooh
Also I might get rid of nebula hater now that celestial packs are decent again on higher stakes
I think 0.2x but scoring is a bit better tho, makes it strong but less brainless
the blue seal change is brilliant
one of the best balance changes Ive seen in any game its so smart
first shop LMAO
i'm going to go from white->gold on a deck i've not done much of now, and get a full brepth of how the game feels post changes.
Yeah this is an excellent balance change imo
WAIT I CALLED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
dont you wanna take a mortgage out on smeared come on
I think the tags making their relative jokers free might be a bit much, but we'll see how it plays. Might just make skipping more part of the meta
50 year smeared joker mortgage
the rental mechanic is actually really cool for getting off the ground early game
yeah indirect throwback buff is nice
This was the intention
Ooh very nice!
I think its not too much
perishable mr bones my favorite
free jokers sounds like it's going to be really strong
skipping has a huge gost already
uhh, this uncommon tag gave me an uncommon, but not for free
*cost
Skipping felt like a no go on higher stake runs cuz of how aggressive scaling was
i guess i should do some runs with it to see
the whole rare/uncommon free thing seems not to be working, I'll patch that too
Also massive anaglyph buffs
Yeah anaglyph is going to be really fun now
Lmao negative farming is gonna be way easier now
still feels like a no go, but we'll see
because i haven't seen anything that makes green square unviable
fun yorick change btw!
I might actually consider going for ++
green/square getting hit by either of the new tags is pretty bad tbh
I think free holo or free foil is basically a free trip to ante 3
But if they don't it can definitely still work yeah
happened to me as well, I reported it
am I so bad that I am still inconsistent at 1 shotting round 1 on red deck lol
same with uncommons
foil tag is successfully making the jokers free, including when doubled
6th sense uncommon is interesting - makes naneinf easier lol
the magician buff is also huge
that one also works
OH MY GOD REALLY
The rare tag buff is great cuz you can actually afford the joker on ante 1 now lmao
Sr. Huesos
just skip 4 whole antes whats the issue
perishable rocket is so funny
i love the saturn and flower pot buffs so much
saturn is already my most bought planet lmao
but i've never gotten it to work on gold
Hologram, red card, hallucination, now are so much better on orange stake+
i wonder how debuffed Perishable jokers interact with Crimson Heart?
blue seal my (now) beloved
also im getting lag spikes whenever I get my starting hand
Sr. Huevos 
I just realized, the vampire nerf hurts less cuz you can buy way more arcana packs now
Thats on higher stakes
Me and brownie call him sans undertale do to the bug
On lower stakes it hurts a lot more
are you really buying twice as much and making them score
True
true, but also midas is worse and vaga is rarer
ok still losing on ante 1 lol
because the answer is probably no unless stone cards
midas vamp splash new combo lmaoo
man this sounds kinda inappropriate without context lmao
Vampire is still unconditional xmult after you get it online, and there are plenty of tarots that give 2 enhancements
WHAT DO YOU MEAN INAPPROPRIATE
lets see how my first sticker farmi goes
i think the changes make vamp more in line with constellation so i think its okay
uhhhhhhhh
still unconditional
Splash indirect buff is 💪
lol
yeah i LOVE the indirect splash buffs
"huevos" in spanish is also slang for testicles
Vamp, Midas, Flowerpot
money's on sale... ?
Oh
finally some good shit
LOL question
LMAO
Well, I used the foil tag and this one IS free...
- Changed Bloodstone - Now has a 1 in 2 chance to proc, was 1 in 3
Thunk are you insane
Its all rentals
did the rand() change for legendary in packs 😂
Jesus
jeez big changes
pulled Soul on my very first arcana
oh, nerf ):
the two slightly nerfed but still great cards side by side
IK WTF IS BLOODSTONE
So the foil tag makes the joker free, but others are not?
this is way harder than I thought
Stuntman no longer a free win on plasma
ok i need to get the update
HOLY SHIT BLOODSTONE IS SO BACK
first run (blue stake red deck) looking spicy
Just beat the boss and am in the shop and can see the UPCOMING boss blind and tags this is so good....
WE DOING A BLOODSTONE OOPS ALL 6's RUN TONIGHT BOIS
bloodstone oops is ON THE MENU??
-25 chips and -25 mult is a rough but deserved nerf
also lucky cat oops new magician is insane
Has anyone been able to test on their steam deck?
That requires me to run lucky cat and oops
I still lost on ante 1 some things never change
lmao
It was having some stuttering performance issues - I think it's fixed now
looking forwards to free rare and uncommon jokers
lets goo riff in the buffoon time to win
ok let's do this
Hello I have a question, is it safe to just enable the experimental build and create a new player profile to just click unlock all? Being cautious here I'm not really savvy at this
Can you donate me a free steam deck, ill test it
:)
I wonder, why were the sinful jokers nerfed?
uncommon skip doesnt work yet right?
I dont remember anyone complaining about them
this is hard dude
not yet I am pushing the update as we speak
I also dont understand this tbh, I thought they were actually a bit weak if anything
Sins should be punished
Yeah tbh, good early game but late I’d rather have smth else
To discourage flushes more
DOUBLE STENCIL LETS DO IT
oooooh okay
let's see if i can get that magic deck gold win now
(I am going to die)
my castle hasnt changed in like 2-3 antes
oh, >50% vampire nerf ):
New update has been pushed, still 1.0.1c
NOOO ALL MY JOKERS ARE PERISHABLE
fixed background colour with motion turned off and free uncommon/rare tags
I think we should nerf black deck, not because it’s good, but because I don’t like it
reupdate?
^
Based
oh my god swashbuckler buff, amazing
IMO it's so much better at gold stake
my plans have almost entirely changed it's crazy
it's much more complicated but way less unfair
Best part of swash buff is it not being annoying to position it with X mult jokers
Huge agree
why would you do this to me specifically
I love you new 8 ball but I cant go into debt for you
are the tag fixed yet?
Refrigerate those jokers
ugh least money will have to be rerouted now LOL
The decisions in gold stake are way more interesting now
due to the rent mechanics
rental is like a big problem
money is no longer on sale
already feels very neat
That's been the most frustrating thing about gold stake honestly, just feeling like you did everything you could but getting let down by a bad draw or shop in the early game
omfg, hanging chad is now more than usable
and damn, vagabond (overall) nerf ):
perishable feels real bad though
lmfao
Dagger stay losing
oh noooo whatever will you do
I mean tbh perishable feels like you gotta adapt on the fly
I love perishable
perishable also means the game is going to be less about high card strat on gold stake
more like pray for critical jokers not getting perishable lmaoo
wait if i update mid-run is my straight suddenly going to gain 4 mult LMAO
perishable and rental both nerf scaling jokers
Especially without the hand size nerf
so investing in planets for better hands is more viable compared to high card runs
so yeah ig
Oh we're cooking now
Oh wait hang on
I think free jokers may be OP, maybe the tag should do 50% off?
nooooooooooooooo, reserved parking nerf ):
lets see how planets work out, feels pretty inconsistent
We can do funny 4/5oak runs now
no skips are the new meta
isnt reserved parking just common now?
yes, a nerf because baseball card
Pivoting multiple times in a run, the cost/benefit analysis of temporary joker / winning the next few rounds, very interesting stuff for perishable
skips are way bette rnow
encourage skips keep this
I like the new two pair commons
skips are lame tho
lol
not anymore
skips are fun if you have to actually think about them
no longer entirely useless
rn you just never skip
Tbf you still miss scaling, interest, hand money, blind money, and the shop
Not sure if this has been reported yet, but the new wording for the Magician (and for Empress and Hierophant) should be "Enhances up to 2 selected cards" and not "Enhances 2 selected cards", right?
Strength card seems to have kept the wording of "up to 2"
Thank you - great feedback!
i guess see how it goes
I'll change
The only change I wish in the future is that if Food Jokers have an edition then they are also eligable for Eternal so it doesnt feel bad getting Foil on Popcorn
That's Balatro, baby
perishable actually a buff for muchel
lol
assured destruction
Eligable but not required yanno
Fridge joker that makes consumable jokers not expire
"Debuffed"
Does that count for giga banana?
Foil tag and holo tag work as intended it seems. This Chaos the Clown became free
I think debuffed doesnt count as it dying right?
4oK joker becoming 2pair is nice for less early game dud jokers
ignore me
Like if you roll into a Holo Ice Cream ir can also roll Eternal
i'm buffon
ok screw it i'm updating mid run
gonna finish up my last gold stake on this new update
wait how does perishable + mr Bones work...
specifically, it doesn't go "extinct"
All these changes are amazing though
uh after 5 rounds it doesnt do anything
debuffed doesn't destroy the joker
loving this
ohhh
so mush
I payed attention in class
stonks
just wanna know when will the localizations be updated
oh, nice, golden ticket buff
Debuffed joker is just what crimson heart does
IKR
I'm loving the new changes on paper. I need to get in and test them but this should make higher stakes a lot more fun and a lot of the buffed jokers a lot more playable.
I GOT A FREE NEGATIVE CONSTELLATION
Im in game these are so fun
It'll be a little while yet - this is just an experimental update. I am still tweaking the english after all
man I have to actually think
ikr
I do hope that one day we get a custom stakes mode where we can just choose what mechanics we can play with of the stakes. I'd love to play with just some of the mechanics in a bubble at times such as eternal at white stakes or the new ones by themselves.
joking of course
i'm going all in on 8s
it's still there
Im using my brain so much
ikr
i forgot what it feels like
ugh thinking
wait
so both perishable and rental have a chance to be on a joker, right?
Time table for console updates?
yess goodbye michel
you got it!
I think with hc no longer being meta maybe pairs would follow since bigger hand size?
thunking
I assume it cant be true for perishable and eternal?
will perishable stack with eternal?
Since they clash
thank god

perishable does not stack with eternal, all other permutations stack
(perishable + rental, eternal + rental)
Okay good to know
ohthankgofd
thunk W
thanks god
Thank god verdant leaf isn’t on type cast and jokerless
the ultimate eternal egg
yeah jokerless vessel and bell only now
lmfao
yeah but crimsom and acorn also aren't ):
lose one joker slot after 5 rounds
I found blackboard
ty Thunk ❤️
I mean, Beats 1/5 to auto lose the run
thunk will you forgive me if I highcard
windows feeling nice
Should be more buttery
no issues on windows
thunk you thank for buffing rarity and edition giving tags
windows is a good
im getting some lag spikes on the opening hand for some reason. Maybe it's on my end
On PC?
yeah
Straight runs feel a lot more viable now with the buffs to saturn and neptune alone
trueeeee, that +1 mult is a lot bigger than it looks
blood stone might actually be too strong now lol
Not getting seance and 6th sense off wraith 
orange stake change will be huge for straights too
burnt joker vagabond and vampire out of wraith is crazy
thunk u thank for those changes too
RED CARD IS USABLE ON GOLD
explain that to me
WE DID IT GAMERS
gold stake I can finally play for full houses in the early game again
wait
vagabond from wraith...
that's kinda nuts hold on
Daniel is rare now
baseball nerfs smh
this screenshot will look way less cursed now
Holy god the new experimental dropped
While my pc is broken...
Hopefully I can get it working to test this out soon
all the good uncommons are being moved
and now we have decent uncommons ):
Honestly this might reign in uncommon tag by itself
Uncommon tag
It’s seance
ignore that there's still blackboard, nerfed stuntman, card sharp, bloodstone is pretty good now
blood stone goes nuclear
speaking of
Yeah onyx and stutnman are still good
oh right, me crazy stupid
madness "nerf" is interesting
It's a buff!
Just read the patchnotes. Great stuff all around and especially with the updated orange/gold stakes 👍
i love it, honestly.
I have a pretty low end laptop that can slow down while streaming, I'll look into testing the performance while streaming it when I get the chance
it means less scaling but also more agency
Should it apply the ceremonial dagger or not since dagger can pick the target
Just noticed this one!
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- Upcoming blinds/tags can now be seen in the shop immediately after defeating a boss blind/cashing out
the best part of the patchnotes were the orange and gold stake effects being changed
the funniest part was odd todd getting +1 chip
huzzah
yeah, looks like a step in the right direction, maybe more than a step
YEAH
hell yeah!
Amazing change, that
This won’t help cuz I can’t read boss blinds till I play them
didn't notice it til i used it on my run lol
Really nice change
buffoon ante 1 feels great
The high stakes adjustments, and the scaling adjustments on green + purple stakes, are all really good changes imo. At least on paper
Do these changes automatically apply to challenge runs
chat help what do i get rid of
imma need drspectred to tell me how to play this new patch lol
thinking baron
Cuz blast off if you brick an early game joker hurts my soul
idk what to do
are you wanting to beat ante 8 or go into endless?
By the way, if anyones worried about testing the new build, unlocks DO apply to the normal version. I just tested it
yeah getting rid of baron prob
Yeah ditch baron and brainstorm all day
so feel free to play on the new version if you're trying to unlock decks/stakes etc.
damn it didn't 
about to get a cursed screenshot of a straight being buffed by 4 old saturns and some new ones
I feel kinda dirty playing ride the bus on this version LOL
to be fair Im playing 2 pairs
did it change?
no but its funny just playing the same meta as before again
Nah it’s just still goated
if only you had old 8 ball LMAO
the general two pair buffs from jokers is great
two pair has won me many a high stake run
I love 2 pair <3
SPousers my beloved
boss backgrounds are fixed!
Awesome!
Trousers carried my painted deck gold run
Wait my saturn is still +2 wtf
Although tbf i didn't actually buy one
But in the collection it's +2
???
LOL, RIFT RAFT GAVE ME JUGGLER ON THE WATER FIGHT
Are you sure you're on 1.0.1c?
I mean drunkard
Yeah I have the two pair commons
buffed planets show up in collection for me
How do i get the update?
Are you in the middle of a run from the previous version?
OHH that explains it
Ok that makes sense lmao
this is cursed, and I love it
o o f
mb this is my first time updating balatro mid run i had no idea how it would work LMAO
Did anyone check if bugged seeds got patched?
I think the bugged seeds should stay bugged, would be funny to just encounter it playing normally
Or if seeds got changed around? (Besides different jokers and first round buffoon packs)
What are bugged seeds?
Ok time to speedrun through this run then so i can see the new stuff :)
oh? going down an ante (Hieroglyph) still gives you the Ante 8 boss now?
i just made basically my whole deck lucky, thanks perkeo on new patch
well i guess that's my second golden stake win
All 10 of Spades
All cards in shop are spectrals
All jokers are holographic
thanks for the update thunk
I tested SUAS seed and still got mrbones and spectral pack first shop, and then jumbo pack ruined other pack but other then that
So cool to see such thought and effort having gone into the stake adjustments also. The new joker effects will make for much more calculated high stake runs, and the design was clearly thought out from the principle of focusing on jokers at high stakes. Very cool work localthunk
Ooo
Seeds like this were possible with the algorithm
Reading patch notes and i really like replacing pack cost scaling with perishable jokers
new stake feels amazing
This was last patch too
Cool, some jokers won’t change but many will when rarities shift around
Welp, I'm unable to play jokerless. (Joke: Crimson Heart Blind being banned from Jokerless)
Have you tried any bugged seed?
Flower Pot: did I get that right? When insert_suit_name are debuffed, the Pot will still count them if played?
Given that other seeds worked mostly it probably wasn’t patched, which is a good thing
but Math, imagine like 10 rental jokers + SUAS
What’s suas
If something isn't in the patchnotes it likely isn't patched - please keep the discussion to the new changes or any new bugs!
will do
thunk thanks for the update lol
gj on the update, looks great so far :)
I love the 8 ball change
Yeah sorry, I forget myself sometimes with so much new content + finally seeing you after so long
These balance changes and stability improvements for steam deck were more important at this point IMO, wanted to get these out there
makes sense
lets goooo
It doesnt feel like a f u stake
Like the blue seal change
Bootstraps is a nice QOL fix
What are the Seal power rankings now?
probably still red>purple>gold and blue
🦭 is number one full stop
blue maybe outranks gold now
but maybe blue could be on par with gold?
I think blue might be above both purple and gold for me
localthunk, Unrelated to the thread, but I've been trying to reach you multiple times about the full Russian localization mod that I'd really like to be included in the official release, but haven't got any response both here and from Playstack. If you could accept my DM, I'll give you the details. Sorry for the offtop.
Currently translating the experimental patchnotes to Russian as I go.
I think red is iffy since it’s synergy specific
red and purple are goated still though
Red>Purple>Blue>Gold probably
I play a lot of endless
red + steel is killer
but red is good for gold card in 8ante
blue abover purple
Red on a normal card is just 7.5 extra chips on average
Magician change is awesome
here's a nice little graphic, price changes of $1 I deemed an insignificant change, while $2 or more is significant
Purple is my #1 personally, but either red or blue after that
I think purple>blue still deck control is crazy
I just like tarots
this is perfect
whats the madness change?
doesnt proc on boss blinds I think?
Yorick change is cool
Not activated on boss blinds
lucky cat should be in major buff tbh
thunk, friend brought up a point that maybe you should make the negative tag half off instead of free
since it just makes it even better with no downside
I'm gonna be writing down everything in my big patch note archive. Can't wait to play the update.
fibo was +2????
tbh madness is a hard nerf
Tbf the downside is you get a useless joker
PLUS 2??
poly and holo tags went from rarely take to an actual consideration, while negative is now just way better with no downside
Yup
Damn
it was +4 when I played
that's not a downside
especially in gold stake
Fib is now fully fibbed ✊
Jesus Vampire was hugely nerfed
Not getting any upside for your skip is a downside in my eyes
negatives are always an upside
nobody is talking about invis changes
now they're just free
it's one of the biggest ones
It might've been like that during the 0.9 betas, but that's a topic for another channel
invis is crazy change
skipping blinds has a huge opportunity cost stil
yeah free joker copy in two rounds is a buff for sure
I think its fine
8 ball isn't even that good now but I put it in massive buff because it went from like bottom 5 to usable
Invis now feels much more viable in all Antes and not just early. It used to feel terrible not being able to take invis late because you had to tank your build to do so
not really at all LOL
for me at least
Do perishable and rental jokers appear at the same rate as eternal?
neg tag was very bad if youre not sticker hunting
Negative Tag was terrible
Hanging Chad change is cool
New 8ball is like half as effective as pre-planets 8ball was on average, but a higher ceiling now
anaglyph gold sticker hunting massive buff
Negative Tag could just be a random $8 crap joker and that not great
hanging chad + photograph:
true
Unrelated, but should ancient joker only selected suits from your deck, cuz getting diamond ancient joker in checker deck is sad
this is a good thing tho sticker hunting should be less tedious
nah that would make it a good card lol
Ancient would be INSANE if it allowed filtering
Haha
Olbep is fine imo
Odd todd change in fun
oh yeah i'm happy about it
Its x2 so its insane to make it filter suits
The ancient change is pretty good tbh
Makes it WAY less likely to get screwed over by boss blinds
I thought it was 1.5
ancient is 1.5
Banan is both a buff and nerf
and by way less likely i mean impossible actually
if you skip big blind whenever it's a different suit from the debuffed one
What was x2 per suit?
Lucky Cat change is good
are you thinking of bloodstone?
banana is mostly a nerf tbh Id say
Campfire change is good
Old campfire was silly
I put it in neutral tier because it technically is a buff to gros michel itself and someone was gonna "um ackshually" me
Haha 7x mult
real
Pretty good nerf
BUFFED YORICK YOOOO
Buff to michel, nerf to cavendish
yup major nerf, you want gros to die for cavendish
Whats up with the Onyx nerf? Clubs already felt kinda meh
Onyx was great
Idk
apparently wanted flushes nerfed
ah makes sense
onyx was good before, i d k about over powered but it'll still be good at +7
Yeah but clubs didnt have much going for them overall
sinful jokers got hit too which confuses me
Clubs were the best suit, idk if onyx needed a nerf though
Idk how to feel about it
especially with flushes already not being the best option at high stakes
bloodstone giga buff
Invisible Joker got a crazy buff
Spades better + ratio
but theyre strong in white stake I guess
Onyx was like one of the few ways to make it work
choices choices
I suppose 8 mult to 7 mult isn't a HUGE change though
perishable sticker makes me sad but its better than packs costing a bajillion
w bloodstone/onyx change i'm def smacking that ❤️ button
Hearts felt the best IMO
flushes can become an option again at higher stakes. All five card hands are viable again probably
For endless hearts are the best
I think flush changes should have the effective +1 in hand size for good stake now
ok which deck should i try gold stake on first
to me hearts and spades felt the best
Im surprised there wasnt Rough Gem or Arrowhead changes
stuntman nerf , -50 chips sad
bloodstone buff yoooo
felt nice
and hanging chad buff
Arrowhead could use like +5 more and Rough Gem maybe like $1 more
Pallete voucher unlock was nerfed cuz gold stake change 
Arrowhead is really good already
I dont feel very inclined to take Rough Gem or Arrowhead that often
LO
Theyre good but they feel overshadowed
yeah thunk knows about the uncommon tag bug
Punished for vampire crimes
ah ok
ah yes sure, let's make arrowhead give more chips than stuntman without retriggers 
It's fixed now if you update!
how 2 update
You can verify game files in steam
played a couple gold stake games on new patch, i love the QoL changes but i'm iffy on rental/perishable. think it'll take some getting used to, having the extra hand size feels awesome
and it'll force update
thank u localthunk
Pivot from High Card in Gold as the meta was the goal with Stuntman AFAIK
Got my game updated
Stuntman in Gold Stake was king
and the edition tags
the ante 1 gamble
wtfff
The uncommon/rare/edition tag changes are great
Inb4 needle
I know, still makes the idea of arrowhead giving more chips than stuntman weird to me
first buffoon pack on the new update and i got a polychrome wrathful joker LMAO
ppl just gonna speedrun early stakes w the skip buffs
good luck
of course its perishable LOL
therein lies the danger
oof
Free negative - it’s a rental
ok maybe the free joker should be guaranteed to not be perishable, but can be eternal/rental
😛
perishables also encourage skipping
why tho
yea there's a lot of skipping getting charted for me now
Being able to actually engage with skipping now is sick
with tags making it easier to find good replacements, that makes sense
i'm a bit confused about the madness change
Yeah i always loved how food jokers indirectly encourage skipping, glad to see even more of that with this new update
Skips are a very viable and probably important part of the meta now, especially in the early game
And they don't run out as quickly!
does it not destroy a joker on the boss blind now?
No destroy and no buff yeah
Madness slight reduced scaling and slightly more control if you don't want to yeet any of your jokers
via skipping
bizarre lineup
i see
I hate to be annoying but i don't understand how to update
Merry Andy unlock speedrun
5 full discards for an extra 1x mult sounds insane
localthunk do you want runs to be going faster, is that why skips are now very much t h e w a y
i'm not sure how much i like the leaning into skips, like i want to play hands. skips felt like a useable but niche option before
they really make me not want to touch SB above white stake
I think they are all pretty even now when considering both High Stakes & Going For High Scores - Blue is pretty fantastic for Orange/Gold stake runs with High Card, Pairs, etc. Think this was a fantastic small tweak that will make a huge difference
GAH
Skips were terrible on purple+
A more viable option at higher stakes, very much so
the tooth and rental sent me -11 into debt
these changes incentivize you to skip more now which i think is nice
need more spectral cards to set $ to 0 😉
WHAT
oh btw is that getting patched up? i.e. not setting money to $0 if you're negative
Just don’t buy rentals 🙂
Ihave to buy rentals! for least money
First impressions from 3 wins now, the skip tag changes make you FLUSH with cash
cooking
the consistency from the first baffoon pack is really nice, but not game breaking
New invisible joker goes so hard
vagabond would be absolutely perfect for rental
we're maybe too rich because of the tag changes, not sure
Do we keep the progress that we make on the experimental branch?
i'm getting to insane money like every run
Anaglyph invest seems absurd ante 2
Anyone know if rentals and perishables show up at the same rate as eternals?
Thank you. Did localthunk confirm this?
No, i confirmed on my own
unlock something-> go play normal by switching betas, progress was kept
yeah i do feel very rich
Wait hang on gift card + swash = really dang good now
